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Rose leaves a message for Lara.

Transcripts for all episodes are available at BelieverPodcast.com.

CONTENT NOTES:

  • Car horns, medical alerts, beeps and alarms
  • Emetophobia
  • Respiratory Distress
  • Death
  • Hallucinations, delusions, and general loss of reality

CAST

  • Rose - Mara Hernandez
  • Sheriff Tate - Regen Wilson
  • Lara - Julie Saunders
  • SodaPop - Archie
  • Mayor Terri Boone - Rosa Delgado
  • Reverend Mitchell Boone - David Pinion
  • Camille - Sara Gorsky
  • Cult children - Kip Parshall, Duke Parshall
  • Cult singers - Bill Saunders, Debbie Saunders, Seth Ellsworth, Duke Parshall

CREW

  • Written, Directed, Sound Designed - Julie Saunders

MUSIC

  • "Julie's Melody (Believer Theme)," by Aaron Ferenc
  • "Vacuum," by Ethan Sloane
  • "Birdsong," by They Dream By Day
  • "Murmur," by WHENISEEYOUISEEMYSELF
  • "Lonely Space Rhodes," by Eneide
  • "Reverse," by Silver Maple
  • "As She Drifts Away," by Clarence Reed

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Transcript

Introduction and Sponsor

00:00:01
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This episode was made possible by Zencaster, which is a brand new sponsor for the show. Check out our discount link in the show notes and stay tuned at the end for more information. Please note this episode contains lots of loud beeps and alarms, so please exercise caution if you listen in the car.

Listener Engagement

00:00:49
Speaker
You have reached Laura Campbell's psychic investigations. Please leave a message. Hi, Laura.
00:00:59
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It's Rose. Listen, I'm sure you're pretty far out of charity right now. Or at least I hope you are. Now that you're away and safe, I guess there are a few things I'd like to say.

Accident and Aftermath

00:01:18
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Sheriff? Sheriff Tate? Sir? What's that noise? You're on the horn. Huh?
00:01:27
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Hey, careful. Okay. Okay. No, don't, don't move. Fine. Hey buddy, it's okay. But I don't want you to come back, okay? No matter what I say, don't come back here. We hit the tree. Yeah, not the best airbags in here, huh?
00:01:48
Speaker
The window's broken out. Yeah. Listen, is your radio working? Maybe you should call someone? Yeah, yeah. Okay. Let me check on soda pop. Hey buddy, let me look you over. Dispatch, this is Tate. Doris, are you there? We had an accident on Route 10. He seems fine. This is a great car harness. Let me just get you unbuckled there, buddy.
00:02:16
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Doris, you there? Anybody listening? Hey, is this thing working? What happened to the headlights? Maybe they blew out when you hit the tree. Now the engine's totally dead. This is right. Come here, buddy. Let's look over without the harness. Hey, no, no! Soda pop, no! Laura, don't. You could have a... Oh, I definitely have a concussion. Keep working on the radio. I'll be right back.
00:02:46
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Soda pop! Soda pop! Dispatch, we need an ambulance and the animal control, I guess.

Family Tensions and Revelations

00:02:54
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Hello? Damn it. I'm sorry about what I said before. Well, I'm not sorry I said it. I needed to say it. It's just maybe it doesn't matter. I don't know what's going to happen tonight, Laura.
00:03:15
Speaker
It'll be tonight, not tomorrow. I haven't told them yet. I tried earlier, but it's complicated.
00:03:32
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Rose, honey, come here. Are you okay? What? Hi, Mom. Sweetie, what are you doing here? This isn't what we talked about. I know. You didn't make it to your Auntie Maria's house? I didn't need to.
00:03:47
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But this... Mom, has it really been two weeks? Yes, honey. I thought you were just waiting, avoiding contact. So then tomorrow's the new moon. You were supposed to stay away until all of that was over. Do you remember? I remember. I remember. I've got to talk to Dad. Honey, wait! I can't. Rose! Rosie!
00:04:16
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There's emptiness at the edge of everything, Lara. The desert by the sea. I wish you could see how beautiful it is. But I know you never will. Rose, wait. Rose! What could I ever do? There's something out there, Lara. It wants me. No, I want it.

Dreams and Visions

00:04:46
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Oh, Rose, you're back! Shh! Try to stay home. Wait. Not this part yet. Laura, do you remember my dream? I always used to tell you about my dreams. In the mornings. In our kitchen. Do you remember?
00:05:15
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nod over your coffee, half listening. I tried to tell you that the dreams were important, but you couldn't hear me very well. Remember? Well, that night, the night I left home, I had the dream again. I was packing my bag. I picked up my Bible. Mom said I had to take it.
00:05:46
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And then I heard singing. There's a song the stars sing when they're perfectly in harmony, when the time is just right. The stars gather, huge and sparkling like firelight, and they sing. I went outside.
00:06:15
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And there it was again. A vast, silver desert. The softest sand beneath my feet, fine and smooth like silk. And above me, the stars, huge, close. In the distance, you could hear the ocean, not our ocean, older and bigger.
00:06:47
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And somewhere in the middle of it all, darker than the darkness, it called to me again.
00:07:22
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I wish you could hear it, Laura. I wish you could hear the stars sing. All will be nothing and we will be whole.
00:07:51
Speaker
Thank you. That was beautiful. Will the Reverend and the Conductor be joining us for this meeting? No, you don't need to worry about them. Oh, okay. So, I guess I've been in the woods for a while.
00:08:07
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Haven't we all? Well, in the woods, I had a vision, a beautiful vision. What did you see, Sister Rose? I saw something beautiful. I saw God's fingers underneath the dirt, reaching, climbing, touching everything around them.
00:08:28
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They climbed up and up and up and where they touch the surface, flowers. But not like flowers, you know. Pale, moonlight stems reaching straight upward toward the darkened sky. Thick buds bursting with seeds, millions of tiny seeds so small you can hardly see them. The hands of God here in our world.
00:08:56
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When the time is right, these flowers will open and the seeds will need to spread as far as they can go. Will we take it? Yes, we will. We all will. We'll breathe in the love of God and carry it through the world. Oh, that's how oblivion will finally come to the world. We will take it into our bodies and breathe it out into the world. Hallelujah! What will happen then? Then?
00:09:26
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All will be nothing. And we will be all. Amen. It's so great to hear from you, Rose. We're so glad you're back. Thank you. Camille? Yes? Are you ready for what's next? Can I count on you for help? Of course. You can count on me for anything. Are you sure? Yes. Of course. I'll do whatever it takes. Even without the Reverend? Why?
00:09:56
Speaker
What happened? Nothing. Well, I'm here for you. Whatever it takes to make the world right again. Good. Thank you. Thank you for coming back.
00:10:19
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Oh god, oh god, I'm so, I'm so dizzy. Soda pop! Soda! Come here please. Soda pop?
00:10:44
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Not soda pop. Ugh. God, what is that smell? There are things in those woods, Laura. Things I know you can't believe in, even if you could see them. Oh my God. That's why you shouldn't be here. Oh, don't look at me, don't look at me, don't look at me. God.
00:11:28
Speaker
Sorry, I didn't mean... Yeah, I think I have a... Do you know what a concussion is? Yeah, my head. I'm guessing it's worse than I thought. Yeah. You're not a bear, are you?
00:11:59
Speaker
Sasquatch. That's what they call you, isn't it? That's what you are. Cool. Cool. Yeah. This is... I'm so, so tired. Sorry. I, um, maybe no touching.
00:12:31
Speaker
Wait, should I? Yeah, okay. I'll follow you. Why not? Remind me to, um, find a hospital soon. At the center of our galaxy, there's a black hole.
00:13:02
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Did you know that? An all-consuming void that pulls all matter in and gives no light in return. That's what holds our galaxy together. If you could hear it, the music of the stars, I think you'd understand.

Confrontations and Truths

00:13:22
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I used to think that if I caught you at the right time, you'd be able to hear it. Maybe that's why I called you.
00:13:33
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if I called you. But, you know, I looked you up online and I see you're still going with our old business. You're selling people this thing that you think is a lie. You know it is. How can someone like you possibly help me? I've learned things, Laura.
00:14:03
Speaker
Real things. True things. You only know lies. And the fact that you know their lies doesn't make them more true. It can't reach you if you lie, Lara. I'm sorry. It's not your fault. Not really.
00:14:32
Speaker
You've never seen the world taken apart and put back together again. And I didn't know how to explain it to you. I think I yelled at you too much. I think I hurt you. So you wouldn't hurt me. Which shouldn't work. But, you know. You should know that I really like that haircut you got. When was it?
00:15:02
Speaker
after the Fourth of July. I didn't tell you. It's hard to keep my thoughts in order. I don't have time anymore. Not like I'm out of time, like I just don't have it. We move closer and closer to the whole at the center of everything. Maybe, maybe I didn't know what to do with love.
00:15:33
Speaker
Maybe love isn't real anymore. Maybe love isn't... What was I saying? Oh, yeah, I was talking about lies and liars. Rose, wait. Rose! It wasn't good.
00:15:58
Speaker
Oh, Rose, you're back! Shh! Mitchell, try to stay calm. I prayed for this day. We all prayed for this day. That's nice, but you didn't think it would really work. Did you?
00:16:14
Speaker
Rose, honey, you just got home. Maybe you should rest. It's never going to speak to you, Dad. It doesn't speak to liars. Rose! I don't... I learned things, Dad. In the desert by the sea. I know things now. Sweetie? You used me, Dad.
00:16:36
Speaker
You made me think you were in charge that you knew what it wanted, and then you told me what to do. Please, your father can't handle any of this stuff. And you went right on with it, didn't you, Mom? Even though you knew it wasn't true. I have been trying to keep this family safe.
00:16:55
Speaker
Not at first. At first, it was just a great new way to get some power. Wasn't it? Oh, it was weird. Don't get me wrong. You thought your husband had gone off the deep end and he was taking your daughter with him, but you could see the opportunity too.
00:17:11
Speaker
the face of God in the church. Oh, you saw something, but it wasn't God, was it Reverend Boone? Rose, what are you talking about? I'm talking about your lies. Rose! I never lied. Do you remember the night I came home when I left Lara? I told you about my dream.
00:17:38
Speaker
The darkness by the sea and then suddenly you said you'd seen it too. You said you heard the stars sing You changed the sermons and you pushed and you pushed until only the truest believers stayed behind and me
00:18:04
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I thought, finally, I'd come home. Like, really home, where people understood me. I'd been lost for so long. And finally, someone believed me. Somebody else knew what I knew. No! He's a liar, Mom! He's been lying this whole time!
00:18:28
Speaker
No, no, I've never lied. Your congregation was failing. Your numbers were dwindling and you were sick. What? No. No, you didn't. Did you dad? It was happening even then. You felt out of breath.
00:18:46
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out of place, out of time. Please, please, Rose. So you pretended to save me so that I would save you. Rose, try to understand. Oh, I understand. Don't worry about that. A new church, smaller but devoted.
00:19:07
Speaker
They gave up everything for you. All the money you needed for these treatments, this equipment. Rose, honey, that's not fair. Your father needed that money, and the followers were glad to help. Sure. For oblivion. For your father! You'll get it. It doesn't matter anymore. None of it does.
00:19:28
Speaker
Rose, anything I've done has been for the good. It's been for your good. Locking me in the basement? That was good for me? I thought you went in there yourself. What about the medicine you gave me? For the visions. The ones that made me tear apart my room. What medicine? You are already seeing the vi- I just wanted to help. I want you to know that everything I've seen
00:19:55
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everything I'm bringing into the world. That was me. Not you. I never needed you. You pushed me. Confused me. Used me. But that's okay.
00:20:14
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because it'll all be over soon. Please, Rose! The new moon! The end! Shh, shh, shh! It's okay. You don't need to worry about it anymore. What? Mitchell? Mitchell! What are you doing? What did you do?
00:20:42
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Mitchell! Get me the phone! Anyway, I guess there's really only one thing I wanted to say to you. One thing I want you to hear. Hello? We have an emergency! Don't come back here, Laura. There's nothing here for you.
00:21:18
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Thank you for listening to Believer.

Spotlight on Michael Arms

00:21:20
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This episode was written and directed by Julie Saunders with voice acting by Mara Hernandez, Reagan Wilson, Rosa Delgado, David Pinion, Sarah Gorsky, Kip Parshall, Duke Parshall, and Julie Saunders, sound designed by Julie Saunders.
00:21:36
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00:21:59
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00:22:20
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Unfortunately, this delay means the finale will also be late, but don't you worry, it will be worth it. Episode 10 is double-length, action-packed, and will hit your feeds soon. Stay tuned.
00:22:31
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Until then, if you're awakened in the night by horrible rattling chains and a deceased former friend of yours appears to tell you that you will be haunted by three ghosts, see if you can skip the rigmarole and just donate more of your money to charity now. It's one of those things that starts out interesting and ends with you in a hole in the ground and nobody wants that. Bye now.
00:22:59
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