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Episode V: Brandon Young
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Two comics who grew up in the 80-90's in Northern Michigan talk about the passing of Hulk Hogan and other wrestling related items. Nothing controversial here...
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Introduction and Comedy Festival
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Brandon Young
Zing, zing, zing.
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Tom Brown
Welcome to What's That About? The only podcast that features ah comedians. The only one. So if you want to hear about comedy, this is the one you listen to.
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Tom Brown
that Those are all lies. I'm with a very special guest today, Brandon Young. He's very special because he's the first guy who ever put me on a comedy festival. So thanks for the credit. And...
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Tom Brown
Yeah, and to the world, you can blame him.
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Brandon Young
You know, uh, hi everyone. This is Brandon Young. In my defense, I didn't select the comedians.
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Tom Brown
Oh, wow.
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Brandon Young
So it was done by a jury of, of your peers, Tom.
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Tom Brown
Okay.
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Brandon Young
And, uh, no, no, no, no.
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Tom Brown
and Normally my peers hate me, so that was a very special.
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Brandon Young
No. No. No.
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Tom Brown
No.
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Brandon Young
which ironically after tom got in closed down and so
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Tom Brown
Hey, actually, after the, there was a year I did do it, and then the next year was COVID. And hey, that's, yeah.
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Brandon Young
Oh, yeah. Six of one, half a hundred of another.
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Tom Brown
Yeah, because I wasn't there.
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Brandon Young
And, yeah. Oh, yeah, that's right. I got to get my facts
Pro Wrestling Fandom and Controversies
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Brandon Young
straight.
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Tom Brown
Yeah.
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Brandon Young
No, so we had Dan Bublitz and I co-produced this Paul Budden Comedy Festival in my hometown of Osco to Michigan. Hoot, hoot, represent owls. Nobody does that. Nobody cares.
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Brandon Young
and And so, yeah, so comics would submit.
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Tom Brown
Yeah, that's fine. You do you.
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Brandon Young
I think it was like $150 fee to get in. And that's not what it was.
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Tom Brown
Yeah, it was it was much cheaper than that.
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Brandon Young
It's like 20 or 25, but we were raising money for the the Alzheimer's Association.
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Tom Brown
Yeah. It's good cause.
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Brandon Young
Yeah. Yeah. So it wasn't like we were pocketing all the money or anything like that. So, so we had comics submit their, their videos.
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Tom Brown
Yeah.
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Brandon Young
And then we had a team of three people that were, that were judging the videos. They would judge a based off stage presence, originality, and overall humor and a grading scale of one to 10.
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Brandon Young
So, you know, you got in based off of the grading scale off of other people.
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Tom Brown
All right.
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Brandon Young
So,
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Tom Brown
all right, I'll take it. And I did.
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Brandon Young
yeah Yeah. And it was up near, kind of near your hometown.
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Tom Brown
Yeah. it was close It was close to where i it was very close to where i grew up, about an hour and a half from where I grew up. So that was kind of kind of special for me. Also, was the last, well, probably, maybe not the first, but definitely the last time my dad ever got to see me do stand-up.
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Tom Brown
So, yeah.
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Brandon Young
That's great. Yeah. I mean, it's not great that he doesn't get to see you anymore.
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Tom Brown
I mean, not great that that happened, but yeah.
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Tom Brown
Yeah, know.
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Brandon Young
He's dead. But, you know, other than that, uh,
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Tom Brown
Yeah. Other than that, other than that, it was a very special. Yeah. Yeah. I know the first night for me went very well, and the second night where he was there kind of like, ah not as great.
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Tom Brown
But, yeah.
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Brandon Young
Well, not all of the shows. There were couple great shows in there. stinkers, but whatever.
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Tom Brown
Oh, yeah, that happens. so i I had a fantastic time, though. I would love to, if it ever becomes a thing, i would love to come back. Yeah.
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Brandon Young
Yeah, know they still they still do some comedy up there. a couple There's a couple comments i can get you in touch with that do shows up and up in the Oscode area still.
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Tom Brown
Yeah.
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Brandon Young
So I can get in touch of them.
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Tom Brown
Yeah.
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Tom Brown
co Cool, cool, cool. But yeah, the real reason reached out, we're Brandon Young and me, we're we're both fans of a certain totally legit and not staged athletic competition known as pro wrestling and professional wrestling.
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Brandon Young
Yeah, professional wrestling, for those who don't know what the PRO stands for.
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Tom Brown
Yeah, yeah, yeah. yeah Yeah, exactly. um Anyway, and the Hulk Hogan died in this last week, and I felt the need...
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Tom Brown
to talk about and to talk about it with someone who is a, is a fan. Um, and also like, I, I just to be clear right off the bat, I have my issues with Hulk Hogan, Terry Bollea, the person, awful human being.
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Tom Brown
And I think we should touch on that.
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Brandon Young
two to
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Tom Brown
Hulk Hogan, the character was great.
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Brandon Young
Yeah, there are things that he did that were horrendous.
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Tom Brown
It was awesome.
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Brandon Young
Things that he said, things that he did.
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Tom Brown
Yeah. Yeah.
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Brandon Young
But there are also people who say they've known Terry Bollea, the person, say a sweetheart and all this stuff.
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Tom Brown
Yeah.
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Brandon Young
But you say that about your friends.
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Tom Brown
Yeah. Oh, yeah I mean, well, Hitler was nice to his dog Blondie.
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Brandon Young
Yeah, well, I mean, just like...
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Tom Brown
I'm not comparing Hogan to Hitler, by the way.
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Brandon Young
Yeah.
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Tom Brown
It's always the first thing that comes to mind.
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Brandon Young
Yeah, he did. Yeah.
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Tom Brown
Like, he was a vegetarian. He liked dogs. We're talking about the same Adolf Hitler?
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Brandon Young
Even Jeffrey Dahmer probably had a couple of friends.
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Tom Brown
Like, yeah. but the the The guy who set up the Autobahn and that the the trains ran on time.
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Brandon Young
you know no You know those nice cars, BMW?
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Tom Brown
We're talking about the same guy? Yeah.
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Brandon Young
Oh, you shouldn't be driving those.
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Tom Brown
Yeah. Volkswagens.
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Brandon Young
Slug bug?
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Tom Brown
Yeah. The Volkswagen guy?
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Brandon Young
There's a reason why it's called a slug bug.
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Tom Brown
Yeah.
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Brandon Young
don't know.
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Tom Brown
Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
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Brandon Young
Hmm. Yeah, so Hulk Hogan, the professional wrestler, ah honestly, he's an icon.
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Tom Brown
yeah
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Brandon Young
he's he's
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Tom Brown
Oh, yeah.
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Brandon Young
The professional wrestler is an icon. Terry Bollea, for those who don't know, Terry Bollea has said some racist, very racist things in his video.
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Tom Brown
Oh, incredibly racist things. Yeah.
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Brandon Young
I haven't seen the actual video, but I saw some clips of it where he was saying the thing. So I know he actually said it and that's clearly his voice where he's talking about his, he didn't want his, first off, he was like having an affair with like his best friend's wife and was recorded, Bubba the Love Sponge.
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Tom Brown
yeah yeah yeah
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Brandon Young
He was like a radio shock jock, whatever in the Florida area. Uh, think he was nationwide, maybe, I don't know. And, uh, he was like,
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Tom Brown
it's got some nation-wide cache anyway at the very least
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Brandon Young
Yeah, he was having and intimate relations with her and they were they were filmed. i don't know who was filming it.
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Tom Brown
Yeah. i like I can't imagine the the person trapped in the closet there.
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Brandon Young
one
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Tom Brown
Like, I was trying to get something else.
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Brandon Young
Yeah.
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Brandon Young
Yeah, I had no clue he was going to say such racist.
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Tom Brown
Yeah.
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Brandon Young
And this was like, what, 2007 when it was actually filmed and didn't get released until like seven, eight years later or something?
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Tom Brown
Yeah.
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Tom Brown
Yeah. um It kind of hit the news in 2015.
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Brandon Young
Yeah.
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Tom Brown
So somewhere probably in between that, those two time periods.
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Brandon Young
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and so anyway, he said some stuff about his his daughter, Brooke Hogan, who was like dating a black guy at the time, and he obviously didn't want her dating a black guy, according to what he said.
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Tom Brown
Yeah.
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Tom Brown
Yeah.
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Tom Brown
yeah yeah uh he used ah the hard r and it wasn't at the end of brother yeah yeah yeah
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Brandon Young
Yeah, it definitely wasn't that. So that pretty much sums that part up, and to to put ah to put it bluntly. And yeah, I mean... Yeah, i wasn't it wasn't a good good look for him.
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Brandon Young
And then obviously he's wrestled against a lot of of black Black wrestlers who, yeah, i very well.
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Tom Brown
no yeah and buried them all
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Brandon Young
And ah it was kind of a surprise to them.
Personal Wrestling Anecdotes
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Brandon Young
yeah.
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Tom Brown
Yeah. So, yeah, it's like, be you know, you never know sometimes we're behind closed doors what people will say or do.
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Brandon Young
yeah and yeah Yeah, exactly.
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Tom Brown
yeah It's like there's that weird, like, oh, well, you know, Stan the murderer never murdered me. yeah
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Brandon Young
Well, the thing is, like, i mean, obviously that tarnished his legacy, as quite rightfully so.
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Tom Brown
So.
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Tom Brown
Yeah. Yeah.
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Brandon Young
um And for those who don't know, if you don't know who Hulk Hogan is, you've been living under rock, or you're Jen, whatever it is nowadays.
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Tom Brown
Yeah. yeah
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Brandon Young
It's not even Z.
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Tom Brown
yeah
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Brandon Young
I don't even know who it is now.
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Tom Brown
I mean, the thing is, like, people didn't forget, like, the wy WWE was like, okay, you're out of our Hall of Fame.
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Brandon Young
But he was the... Yeah.
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Tom Brown
We're you're we're scrubbing you from our history for a little, but you can't scrub that history.
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Brandon Young
Yeah.
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Brandon Young
Yeah.
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Tom Brown
That's too too impossible.
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Brandon Young
He was the biggest sports entertainer, professional wrestler of the 80s and even ninety s
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Tom Brown
oh
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Tom Brown
Yeah.
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Tom Brown
Yeah. And the 90s, yeah. Biggest name day of the 90s for sure.
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Brandon Young
Yeah, Stone Cold.
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Tom Brown
Like, when he did the heel turn, and went that was like 13-year-old Tom Brown's mind was blown, man.
00:07:31
Brandon Young
Yeah. Yeah, nobody expected him to have that game.
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Tom Brown
Like,
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Brandon Young
Like Stone Cold probably made more money in the late 90s off of merch and stuff than Hogan.
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Tom Brown
yeah
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Brandon Young
i don't know if Hogan ever did, but kind of I mean, wrestling pretty...
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Tom Brown
hogan made a ton of money on the nwl merchandise i guarantee it yeah i'm sure there was a split where it's like a split and then splits yeah yeah
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Brandon Young
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, he made the NWO merch, but he also had to split it with Kevin Ash and Scott Hall. Yeah,
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Brandon Young
yeah f yeah, yeah. But, I mean, that was that was the mid-90s was huge. so So really, for like a good 10 to 15-year period, Hulk Hogan, even in the early 2000s when he was wrestling a lot.
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Tom Brown
Yeah, who he came back. yeah I mean, that that match, rock for I kind of stopped watching for a while ah around the time the of the Rock Hogan match at WrestleMania 17, 18, something like that.
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Brandon Young
Yeah.
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Brandon Young
don't know.
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Tom Brown
The one in Toronto. And I know there was a big match. I've gone back and watched it. It's like, oh, okay. But it didn't have the same power for me because, like I guess said, like I kind of stopped watching at the time after WCW folded and was bought by WWE FG.
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Brandon Young
Yeah.
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Brandon Young
which was Which was very sad for me because I was always a WCW guy.
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Tom Brown
LMLP. Yeah. can I can imagine you being.
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Brandon Young
He was a kid.
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Tom Brown
I kind of flipped between both, but I was always kind of hardcore more towards w WWE. um
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Brandon Young
Yeah. I mean, you're up in Michigan.
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Tom Brown
and but Yeah.
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Brandon Young
you get with USA Network and TBS. So you get the option to watch both wrestling.
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Tom Brown
Yeah.
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Brandon Young
My dad was from Alabama and he was always Southern wrestling guy.
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Tom Brown
Yeah.
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Brandon Young
So we'd always watch NWA more so than WCW. So we'd watch the Ric Flair. So like Ric Flair, Sting, those are my dudes.
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Tom Brown
Yeah.
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Brandon Young
Those are my guys in the late 80s.
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Tom Brown
Yeah. i I did get a chance to see both ri rick Flair and Hogan in the ring at the same time at a Monday Night Raw in 2019 when they were promoting like Team Hogan versus Team Flair for one of the Saudi Arabia shows.
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Brandon Young
Okay. Okay.
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Brandon Young
Okay.
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Tom Brown
So that was kind of that was kind of neat. i I bought a ticket like the day of. I was like, wait a second. Hogan and Flair are both going to be there.
00:09:35
Brandon Young
Oh,
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Tom Brown
And I'm in the same city too. And that that floor seat is $35 right now.
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Brandon Young
wow.
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Tom Brown
I'm taking it.
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Brandon Young
Yeah.
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Tom Brown
yeah It was like his floor seat all the way to the back.
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Brandon Young
Yeah.
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Tom Brown
My view was terrible of this met of the whole thing.
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Brandon Young
yeah
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Tom Brown
But it was like it was like, I'm there. This is awesome.
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Brandon Young
Mm-hmm.
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Tom Brown
A good time was had by me. Maybe not by all. the The main event was off air. kind of steel cage match between then w WWE champion Seth Rollins and another deceased wrestler Bray Wyatt.
00:10:09
Brandon Young
OK.
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Tom Brown
Yeah. And it ended in kind of a BS ending and just like at right like couple days after another BS, like the Hell in a Cell match between those two that they had a call earlier or something weird happened.
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Brandon Young
Yeah.
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Tom Brown
I don't remember all the all the information there. But back to Hogan. Yeah.
00:10:28
Brandon Young
yeah yeah Back to the hope.
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Tom Brown
Like, yeah, back to Hogan.
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Brandon Young
the
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Tom Brown
And I think part of the reason also for his, you know, just you can argue with me on this if you want. um It is not, it goes back, it's, ah ah he's taken, the last few years he took a really weird turn.
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Tom Brown
Like all sudden, like the guy who said, you know you know, say your prayers, eat eat your vitamins, yada, yada, yada, starts selling real American beer.
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Brandon Young
Yeah.
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Tom Brown
And then he was also selling vapes.
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Brandon Young
he Yeah. And he was going to purchase Hooters.
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Tom Brown
Yeah, and he was purchasing... Like, what the...
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Brandon Young
cause i know I know he did did rededicate his life to Christ toward the end there.
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Tom Brown
Yeah.
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Brandon Young
So he was baptized. And it's like weird to me because I am a Christian.
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Tom Brown
Yeah. Yeah.
00:11:15
Brandon Young
It's weird to me to be like, yeah, let's go ahead and sell beer. And I mean, drink whatever.
00:11:19
Tom Brown
very yeah
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Brandon Young
You can do whatever you want to make the choices you want. but then he's like, I'm going to buy Hooters now and revive it. Like, whoa, what's going on here?
00:11:27
Tom Brown
Yeah, no, wait a second. I don't remember this part of the book. oh
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Brandon Young
Yeah, I mean, i know Jesus came out with some sinners and all, but, like, I don't know he would purchase her.
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Tom Brown
What's going on? yeah Yeah. Yeah. But was it like a, like a, I'm about to go brother. I better like, just in case spinkle sprinkle, sprinkle, sprinkle.
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Brandon Young
Well, I don't know if he was, like, in that bad shape of that.
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Tom Brown
Yeah. A deathbed conversion.
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Brandon Young
Yeah, the other big thing he was doing, he was going to create, well, kind of re recreate a for real pro wrestling league. So it like a, like, so, like, we know there's no, no.
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Tom Brown
Yeah. They just signed a contract like a week ago with Fox Nation.
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Brandon Young
Yeah, yeah.
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Tom Brown
Yeah.
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Brandon Young
So it was like him and Eric Bischoff and someone else were were creating a professional wrestling, like actual amateur professional wrestling.
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Tom Brown
<unk> yeah Which is, and I will tell you why it's going to fail. Because that's how it started.
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Brandon Young
Well,
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Tom Brown
That's how pro wrestling in America started.
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Brandon Young
yeah. Well, the thing is,
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Tom Brown
And they're like, this sucks. No one wants to sit around for 10 hours until someone taps out.
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Brandon Young
Yeah. Well, the thing is, like there they already there was a real pro wrestling before about
Wrestling Transitions and Personas
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Brandon Young
15 years ago, 16 years ago.
00:12:28
Tom Brown
yeah yeah
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Brandon Young
Rulon Gardner, who's an Olympic gold medalist, I believe, he he's an American. he He actually formed a real pro wrestling league, and that failed after like one or two
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Tom Brown
oh wow yeah oh yeah good because uh it's why i'm not a huge i like pro wrestling but i'm not a huge fan of the ufc it's because i know i'm going to get a show with the wwe i'm going to get the lights i'm going to show i'm going to get someone like talking smack
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Brandon Young
years. Okay.
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Brandon Young
Yeah. Yeah, it's clear the statement. And they were trying to
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Tom Brown
The actual full actual F. I don't want to see two people actually try to kill each other.
00:12:57
Brandon Young
yeah
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Tom Brown
I don't. Like, I really don't want to see that. Yeah.
00:13:01
Brandon Young
like i don't I'm curious what the ratings are. I'm curious what they did because collegiate wrestling is I mean, obviously there's Olympic wrestling, like actual wrestling, but collegiate wrestling is is on yeah ESPN.
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Tom Brown
Yeah.
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Brandon Young
I'm curious what the ratings are.
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Tom Brown
Yeah.
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Brandon Young
I'm curious with Bischoff because he's you know he's a big... he's He's been around for a long time, entertainment-wise.
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Tom Brown
yeah
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Brandon Young
Yeah.
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Tom Brown
I know the NCAA national championships were always held in St.
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Brandon Young
Yeah. reading
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Tom Brown
Louis when I was still living there.
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Brandon Young
yeah
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Tom Brown
as a That was a huge deal. like It was like the Scottrade Center be sold out for that.
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Brandon Young
Yeah. I mean, it's a big event. But a lot of earthwise a lot of those guys go into MMA afterwards.
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Tom Brown
Huge event.
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Tom Brown
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
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Brandon Young
so So I'm curious what the ladies
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Tom Brown
Yeah. and actually It was at, yeah, Chad Gable, a current WWE superstar, was in the USOEC program at Northern Michigan.
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Brandon Young
are.
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Brandon Young
Yeah, and he was.
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Tom Brown
So he was traded to be an Olympic wrestler up there.
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Brandon Young
He wasn't one of the girls who was.
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Tom Brown
Yeah, and he was, yeah. but say like just I think just after I graduated up there. So that's my connection there.
00:13:52
Brandon Young
Yeah, and then the big thing with NCAA, they had Gable Steveson, who was, he tried his hand at WWE.
00:14:00
Tom Brown
Yeah. Yeah.
00:14:02
Brandon Young
Well, it's
00:14:03
Tom Brown
Yeah, that'll still get me to this day. Till my dying day, I'll be calling it WWF. Like, yeah.
00:14:08
Brandon Young
well because it was, you know, you remember for so long, but it's crazy because it's been w WWE longer than it was ever, WWF.
00:14:13
Tom Brown
Yeah, or at least since I've been alive. Yeah, in terms of the times I've been alive, yes.
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Brandon Young
25 years. Yeah, it's been WWE. And like who cares about the World Wildlife Fund? Nobody, they don't do anything.
00:14:22
Tom Brown
Yeah.
00:14:23
Brandon Young
Come on. a and So, yeah, so like he he he ended up losing. Bless you.
00:14:29
Tom Brown
Yeah.
00:14:30
Brandon Young
He sneezed.
00:14:30
Tom Brown
ah you
00:14:30
Brandon Young
You guys can't sleep.
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Tom Brown
Gesundheit. Yeah. I held it all in for the sake of the podcast.
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Brandon Young
Yeah. So, yeah, he ended up losing. So that was like a big thing. And he he and he took like a year away from ah competitive amateur wrestling to try his hand at WWE.
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Brandon Young
And he was like an NXT. So he was training and apparently he couldn't pick it up. Like not everyone's Kurt Angle. Not everyone's Greg Able.
00:14:51
Tom Brown
Yeah.
00:14:53
Brandon Young
That's a few and far between.
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Tom Brown
Yeah.
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Brandon Young
There's like.
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Tom Brown
What do you mean I'm not actually trying to like stra strangle them?
00:14:59
Brandon Young
Yeah.
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Tom Brown
but What do you mean? like
00:15:00
Brandon Young
It's like he probably would be better off going into.
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Tom Brown
It looks more real if I'm actually doing it. You know that, right?
00:15:03
Brandon Young
Yeah.
00:15:04
Tom Brown
Yeah.
00:15:04
Brandon Young
Like, he would be better off going into MMA and UFC, and he would get signed.
00:15:06
Tom Brown
Yeah.
00:15:08
Brandon Young
He'd make a little bit of money going to UFC, but, you know.
00:15:10
Tom Brown
Yeah.
00:15:11
Brandon Young
So, anyway. So, Hulk Hogan, he's a racist.
00:15:13
Tom Brown
Yeah, I know, right?
00:15:14
Brandon Young
And so...
00:15:15
Tom Brown
And they like is like and then like he speaks at the the Republican National Convention last year. It's like, Oh, wait, he's actually, it's like 80s Hogan going heel and saying, I'm with the million dollar man now, brother.
00:15:29
Brandon Young
Yeah, well...
00:15:29
Tom Brown
Literally. I think I was, I think I was one of the three, like the three people who noticed that connection.
00:15:34
Brandon Young
I think there are more people who despise Hogan for for being a Trump guy than they despise him for his racist.
00:15:42
Tom Brown
Yeah.
00:15:43
Brandon Young
Yeah.
00:15:43
Tom Brown
And here's the thing. i i don't. Because like The Undertaker is also a Trump guy.
00:15:49
Brandon Young
It was Kane.
00:15:50
Tom Brown
Huge Trump guy.
00:15:51
Brandon Young
ka and sort
00:15:52
Tom Brown
but so is Keynes politics. You're a little crazy or two, but like with the undertaker, I don't hold it against him. Oh, we he's a mega Republican, but he's still the undertaker.
00:16:03
Tom Brown
He was always like the undertaker was never like, and say your prayers and eat your vitamins.
00:16:03
Brandon Young
yeah
00:16:08
Brandon Young
yeah That was a gimmick, dude.
00:16:09
Tom Brown
Rest in.
00:16:09
Brandon Young
Like, how can we do steroids?
00:16:10
Tom Brown
Exactly. Yeah. it a yeah
00:16:12
Brandon Young
Of course he's saying that.
00:16:14
Tom Brown
Yeah.
00:16:14
Brandon Young
He was what can I do to get people to follow me in the 80s?
00:16:17
Tom Brown
yeah Yeah.
00:16:18
Brandon Young
Say your prayers, take your vitamins.
00:16:19
Tom Brown
It's all. Yeah. It's, you know, so you're like,
00:16:21
Brandon Young
Meanwhile, he's taking his own special vitamins on the side.
00:16:25
Tom Brown
Vitamin
Cultural Impact and Wrestling History
00:16:26
Tom Brown
S.
00:16:26
Brandon Young
Which always cracks me up, like, let those guys do steroids. Let them juice up.
00:16:29
Tom Brown
Yeah.
00:16:30
Brandon Young
You know, like, yeah, it's not...
00:16:30
Tom Brown
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. like Like, also the steroids things I've never really cared about. Like, no, I expect these guys to be muscle-bound psychopaths.
00:16:37
Brandon Young
yeah They're not really punching each other in the face.
00:16:38
Tom Brown
if they if If they have a tiny ding-dong, so be it. Like, that's on them.
00:16:41
Brandon Young
well
00:16:42
Tom Brown
They get to make that choice.
00:16:44
Brandon Young
True.
00:16:44
Tom Brown
um
00:16:45
Brandon Young
I didn't see the Gawker video, so I can't tell you.
00:16:45
Tom Brown
But, yeah, exactly.
00:16:47
Brandon Young
trying
00:16:47
Tom Brown
I didn't either. I didn't had no urge to on that. Yeah. But when it comes to, like I don't know, is the it's the hypocrisy. It's the hypocrisy that gets me.
00:17:01
Brandon Young
so let's look at ah i'm trying to look at like other professional wrestlers who've said things on TV and
00:17:02
Tom Brown
Yeah.
00:17:06
Tom Brown
Yeah.
00:17:07
Brandon Young
and then did something else.
00:17:08
Tom Brown
By the way, Scott Hall, not Cuban.
00:17:10
Brandon Young
hold of that but What was that?
00:17:12
Tom Brown
Scott Hall, not Cuban.
00:17:13
Brandon Young
Yeah, yeah, he's not Cuban.
00:17:14
Tom Brown
Yeah.
00:17:15
Brandon Young
He also killed the guy.
00:17:15
Tom Brown
yeah so Not at all.
00:17:17
Brandon Young
Scott Hall also killed the guy.
00:17:18
Tom Brown
Oh, yeah, definitely killing. I think it was a self. It was it was a self-defense, though.
00:17:21
Brandon Young
yeah's not the defense Yeah,
00:17:22
Tom Brown
It was like it was a body. yeah I think the other guy pulled the gun first or something.
00:17:25
Brandon Young
Yeah. Yeah.
00:17:26
Tom Brown
There were witnesses. He got acquitted. But like the PTSD of it hung with him for years.
00:17:32
Brandon Young
Yeah. Like, even Superfly Jimmy Snuka, didn't he kill...
00:17:36
Tom Brown
You know, he well, he was never convicted, I don't think.
00:17:37
Brandon Young
Allegedly. Yeah. that Never tried. I don't think he ever tried.
00:17:41
Tom Brown
yeah I think there was a there was a trial at the back end of his life, but he was just so like took so many chair shots to the head that it may have been an act that he was playing, like punch drunk in the court, but he it might not have been either.
00:17:47
Brandon Young
Yeah.
00:17:57
Brandon Young
Yeah. And what was it?
00:17:58
Tom Brown
Yeah.
00:17:58
Brandon Young
ah Hacksaw Jim Duggan and an Iron Sheik both got fired for getting pulled over and they had what was a Weed or something on them.
00:18:07
Tom Brown
I'm not sure...
00:18:07
Brandon Young
were driving together, and that's why i think I actually got...
00:18:09
Tom Brown
may Maybe it's because they were driving together. I know there was like a thing where two wrestlers who were supposed to be a good guy and a bad guy driving together, and then i got pulled over for weed or something, and they both lost their jobs.
00:18:16
Brandon Young
Yeah.
00:18:19
Brandon Young
Yeah, kayfabe was big. Kayfabe was big back then, where it's like, if you're a bad guy, you hang out with only bad guys.
00:18:21
Tom Brown
Yeah. Yeah.
00:18:24
Brandon Young
if you're a good guy, you hang out only good guys.
00:18:25
Tom Brown
Yeah.
00:18:27
Brandon Young
And then Vader, didn't he go to prison? and Or he got arrested in... i can't remember the country.
00:18:34
Tom Brown
Oh, I don't... Maybe Japan?
00:18:35
Brandon Young
There was like... No, it was... a I'm going to have to look that up. It's so frustrating. and Oh, man. In Kuwait. and think it was in Kuwait. Yeah, he was on Kuwaiti television.
00:18:47
Tom Brown
Oh.
00:18:47
Brandon Young
a And the broadcaster was was asking questions like saying, you know wrestling's fake. And then Vader said, is this fake?
00:18:56
Tom Brown
Oh, yeah.
00:18:56
Brandon Young
Yeah.
00:18:57
Tom Brown
Oh, yeah. No, he was, I had to Google this. He was ah ah arrested and detained by Coiti authorities for two weeks. Yeah, after doing that.
00:19:06
Brandon Young
And that kind of led to him getting fired as well.
00:19:08
Tom Brown
And then there was a, ah what was it?
00:19:08
Brandon Young
So Vader was a bad guy, so it kind of fit his persona.
00:19:11
Tom Brown
Yeah. Yeah, it was like, perfect. all this ah can see convince mc man Oh, this is, Oh, this
00:19:14
Brandon Young
Yeah.
00:19:16
Brandon Young
Yeah.
00:19:18
Tom Brown
And then there was a i always kind of forget his name because he was in the ww WWF around the first WrestleMania. um They made a whole dark side of the ring episode about him.
00:19:31
Tom Brown
um Specifically him slapping John Stossel like twice in the face.
00:19:36
Brandon Young
Oh, yeah, Dave,
00:19:40
Tom Brown
It's doctored something. Yeah.
00:19:44
Brandon Young
not Dave Sullivan.
00:19:48
Tom Brown
We're going to get to this in two seconds.
00:19:49
Brandon Young
Yeah, Dave Sultz.
00:19:50
Tom Brown
Dr. David Schultz.
00:19:52
Brandon Young
That's what it was. Yeah.
00:19:53
Tom Brown
Yeah. um Oh, it's not real.
00:19:53
Brandon Young
Cool.
00:19:54
Tom Brown
It's not real. Smack, smack.
00:19:55
Brandon Young
Cool.
00:19:57
Tom Brown
And though in his defense, it was John Stossel.
00:20:00
Brandon Young
Yeah.
00:20:01
Tom Brown
is he's He's made a career out of being smackable.
00:20:05
Brandon Young
If someone finally did it, then we got sued.
00:20:07
Tom Brown
Yeah, I think part of yeah yeah part of it's...
00:20:09
Brandon Young
Lost a lot of money off that, I believe.
00:20:12
Tom Brown
Part of that culture, that's I watch the TV show with my wife, Big Brother, a lot. And there's been some people on that episode or that this season who is like, oh, they're talking like they expect absolutely no one to slap them in the face over this because that person will get kicked out of the show.
00:20:32
Tom Brown
like So they're just talking with impunity until like someone does the reasonable thing and punches them in the face. which I don't hate to call punching someone in the face of the reasonable thing, but we're talking about pro wrestling right now.
00:20:32
Brandon Young
Yeah.
00:20:45
Brandon Young
Yeah.
00:20:45
Tom Brown
And then sometimes people kind of deserve a smack in the mouth.
00:20:49
Brandon Young
I mean, there's a lot of, there's a lot of, the wrestlers getting a lot of fights backstage. I'm not sure about nowadays. Oh, but
00:20:53
Tom Brown
Yeah. Yeah, there was an AEW thing. was nuts.
00:20:57
Brandon Young
yeah. Yeah. You say ANW, like the, okay.
00:21:00
Tom Brown
I say AEW.
00:21:01
Brandon Young
That's like ANW.
00:21:02
Tom Brown
Yeah.
00:21:02
Brandon Young
Like, you guys, then you got move your flow.
00:21:03
Tom Brown
ah Like the road beer? Yeah. hey Yeah. It's AEW Wrestling. It's...
00:21:07
Brandon Young
I don't actually watch that more.
00:21:09
Tom Brown
I would be down with ah coding Cody dogs root beer and wrestling.
00:21:09
Brandon Young
No, I didn't get it.
00:21:13
Tom Brown
Hell yeah.
00:21:15
Brandon Young
Yeah, I did and they go to s Sting's retirement match in Greensboro, so that was fun.
00:21:15
Tom Brown
Hell yeah, brother.
00:21:19
Tom Brown
Oh, cool. Yeah.
00:21:20
Brandon Young
and my but My best friend from Mish from Oscoda, he flew down with his wife, and we went to Sting because we were a big Sting fans as kids.
00:21:28
Tom Brown
Yeah.
00:21:29
Brandon Young
So we had to see Sting's alleged last match.
00:21:31
Tom Brown
Yeah.
00:21:32
Brandon Young
They always come out of retirement, but um I think Sting's actually going stay retired.
00:21:35
Tom Brown
Yeah, he might this time. No, I don't think – I was in – Ric Flair had another retirement match, and he I think he may have had a heart attack during it.
00:21:41
Brandon Young
Oh, yeah.
00:21:44
Tom Brown
like so
00:21:44
Brandon Young
Yeah, he's been great.
00:21:46
Tom Brown
By the way, Hogan, eat your prayer, save your vitamins, dead.
00:21:49
Brandon Young
Yeah.
00:21:51
Tom Brown
Ric Flair, woo, styling him profile, him taking girls up to Space Mountain.
00:21:52
Brandon Young
Yeah.
00:21:56
Brandon Young
Yeah, I commented on that.
00:21:56
Tom Brown
Still lives.
00:21:57
Brandon Young
He's the Keith Richards of professional wrestling.
00:21:59
Tom Brown
Yeah, there he's like, he's been near death so many times.
00:22:00
Brandon Young
The guy's never going to pass. Yeah.
00:22:03
Brandon Young
Yeah.
00:22:04
Tom Brown
He's been cut open and he was, I mean, he was in a plane crash for Pete's sake.
00:22:09
Brandon Young
Yeah, he just survived cancer recently. He had a cancer thing.
00:22:11
Tom Brown
Yeah.
00:22:12
Brandon Young
He just survived as well.
00:22:14
Tom Brown
He's surviving everything being thrown at him.
00:22:14
Brandon Young
So.
00:22:17
Brandon Young
Yeah. plane crash Survived a plane crash. Survived cancer. Like, come on.
00:22:20
Tom Brown
Yeah. the the The plane ride from hell, he got some backlash from that again for what after the Dark Side of the Ring came out.
00:22:23
Brandon Young
Yeah.
00:22:26
Brandon Young
No, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:22:30
Brandon Young
I think it's crazy because all these people know these things happen.
00:22:32
Tom Brown
So, yeah.
00:22:35
Brandon Young
They're like, what? i don't remember this happening. It's like, this was talked about 20 years Yeah.
00:22:38
Tom Brown
Years ago.
00:22:39
Brandon Young
yeah
00:22:39
Tom Brown
I don't remember 20 years ago, dude.
00:22:40
Brandon Young
Yeah, yeah, exactly. And then all this new generation of fans come out and they're probably like, whoa, what?
00:22:42
Tom Brown
Like you do. Yeah.
00:22:46
Tom Brown
What? Yeah.
00:22:48
Brandon Young
Kurt Angle and Brock Lesnar wrestled?
00:22:48
Tom Brown
This is it.
00:22:50
Brandon Young
What's going on?
00:22:50
Tom Brown
Yeah. So you're telling me Ric Flair was like John Cena minus the hustle loyalty, respect, ah and ah the opposite of all that.
00:22:57
Brandon Young
Yeah.
00:23:01
Brandon Young
Yeah.
00:23:02
Tom Brown
Yeah.
00:23:02
Brandon Young
Yeah, Ric Flair was not a good dude.
00:23:04
Tom Brown
Yeah, no, no, not at all.
00:23:04
Brandon Young
He's had four lives now.
00:23:05
Tom Brown
good dude I, here's the, the recent John Cena heel turns been weird just because it doesn't feel right.
00:23:08
Brandon Young
i don't know he's had.
00:23:17
Brandon Young
It's a short term. i mean, obviously it's all short term.
00:23:18
Tom Brown
Yeah. Yeah.
00:23:19
Brandon Young
and the
00:23:19
Tom Brown
Cause he's only got like 15, like 15 appearances left or something.
00:23:22
Brandon Young
Yeah, and I imagine there's going double turn at SummerSlam or Cody's turn to Teal.
00:23:22
Tom Brown
Uh,
00:23:26
Tom Brown
yeah. Uh, I've, I've read about that.
00:23:28
Brandon Young
mean, it's going be all...
00:23:29
Tom Brown
honestly, I don't know how i feel about it because sometimes when it'd be, yeah.
00:23:31
Brandon Young
It's like, well, why don't you turn at WrestleMania? Like, why do you wait three or four months?
00:23:36
Tom Brown
Yeah. Uh, maybe you need a little more desperation on, on Cody's part, you know, can't just be the heel turn champ.
00:23:41
Brandon Young
Yeah.
00:23:43
Brandon Young
Yeah.
00:23:44
Tom Brown
Yeah.
00:23:44
Brandon Young
I'm curious what the because that all the merchandise really determines whether they turn someone heel or not.
00:23:44
Tom Brown
Uh,
00:23:49
Tom Brown
Yeah.
00:23:49
Brandon Young
like If Cody's merch sales are going down, yeah, turn them heel. a
00:23:52
Tom Brown
Yeah. Spice something up with this because he's a great heel when he's done heel work in the past.
00:23:55
Brandon Young
Yeah.
00:23:58
Brandon Young
Yeah.
00:23:59
Tom Brown
He just hasn't been in his current run.
00:23:59
Brandon Young
but that's like That's the crazy thing about Hogan when he turned heel. It's like, oh no, they're going lose all that merchandise. Oh, but wait, NWO sells. Yeah.
00:24:06
Tom Brown
Yeah. More than anyone else ever, practically.
00:24:08
Brandon Young
Yeah. It's like, oh, okay.
00:24:09
Tom Brown
like You still see NWO t-shirts just walking down the street.
00:24:11
Brandon Young
Yeah.
00:24:13
Tom Brown
They were ubiquitous.
00:24:13
Brandon Young
Yeah, exactly. It's been 30 years.
00:24:16
Tom Brown
Yeah. I've seen more NWO. Speaking of thirty clothing choices from 30 years ago, I've seen more NWO shirts recently than starter jackets.
00:24:24
Brandon Young
and Okay.
00:24:25
Tom Brown
Yeah. You don't remember starter jackets?
00:24:26
Brandon Young
ah third That Hornet starter jacket was the go-to one.
00:24:29
Tom Brown
Yeah.
00:24:31
Brandon Young
It's like, you're not Hornet fan?
00:24:31
Tom Brown
Oh, for sure.
00:24:32
Brandon Young
What are you doing? You live in Michigan.
00:24:33
Tom Brown
Yeah.
00:24:34
Brandon Young
Mm-hmm.
00:24:34
Tom Brown
theres yeah no Everyone had Charlotte Hornets stuff for some reason. And they were just an okay team.
00:24:40
Brandon Young
Yeah.
00:24:40
Tom Brown
Yeah.
00:24:41
Brandon Young
Then they moved to New Orleans and then and Charlotte became the was the Bobcats and then New Orleans.
00:24:44
Tom Brown
Yeah, which was stupid.
00:24:47
Tom Brown
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh,
00:24:50
Brandon Young
I live in Charlotte now so now they're the Hornets again.
00:24:52
Tom Brown
yeah. They were the Charlotte Bobcats.
00:24:55
Brandon Young
Yeah.
00:24:55
Tom Brown
Yeah.
00:24:56
Brandon Young
I think Jordan was the owners.
00:24:56
Tom Brown
And they got the name back because the world like, we'll be the Pelicans, I guess.
00:25:00
Brandon Young
Yeah.
00:25:02
Tom Brown
Like, yeah.
00:25:02
Brandon Young
That's fine. Okay. That makes more sense than Hornets.
00:25:03
Tom Brown
Yeah. Yeah, because you get the basketball and the giant like geek thing that the Pelicans have, I guess.
00:25:05
Brandon Young
There are a lot of Hornets out here. Yeah.
00:25:09
Tom Brown
i You could...
00:25:09
Brandon Young
Yeah, when I moved out here, i was like, oh, why are they calling the Charlotte Hornets? And then I'm like, oh, there's a lot of hornets out here.
00:25:13
Tom Brown
Hornets.
00:25:14
Brandon Young
That's why.
00:25:14
Tom Brown
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
00:25:15
Brandon Young
Why are they calling them?
00:25:16
Tom Brown
Remember murder hornets? Remember when that was a thing for a hot minute?
00:25:18
Brandon Young
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
00:25:20
Tom Brown
It's like COVID, then murder hornets. Like, what's next?
00:25:22
Brandon Young
Yeah.
00:25:23
Tom Brown
What's next? Embezzlement bees?
00:25:25
Brandon Young
Do you remember the killer bees from the He's a friend of Hulk Hogan.
00:25:27
Tom Brown
Oh, man. I'm still kind of terrified of that. Oh, was it like they had episodes of like In Search Of with like Leonard Nimoy talking about how like killer bees were like made.
00:25:37
Brandon Young
Hmm.
00:25:39
Tom Brown
and It was like that was, by the way, the scariest show to watch as a kid in like the 90s.
00:25:39
Brandon Young
that's like about there was a There was a pro wrestling team. There's a pro wrestling team called the Killer Bees.
00:25:46
Tom Brown
Oh, yeah.
00:25:46
Brandon Young
Brian Blair and the other guy. i can't remember the other guys.
00:25:49
Tom Brown
yeah
00:25:50
Brandon Young
Jim Rizzle.
00:25:51
Tom Brown
Yeah.
00:25:51
Brandon Young
and It's funny of other things you remember. like That was a tag team for probably three or four years. and From 86 to 89.
00:25:56
Tom Brown
Yeah.
00:25:58
Brandon Young
I remember these things.
00:25:59
Tom Brown
yeah Yeah.
Celebrity Encounters and Comedy
00:26:01
Tom Brown
Just say.
00:26:01
Brandon Young
but we Brian Blair is a good friend of Paul Kogan. He was at the SmackDown Tribute on on Friday night.
00:26:03
Tom Brown
Oh.
00:26:06
Tom Brown
All right. That makes sense.
00:26:07
Brandon Young
Yeah.
00:26:08
Tom Brown
Bastion Booger was a bouncer at my college bar.
00:26:10
Brandon Young
Oh, yeah. Yep. Yep.
00:26:13
Tom Brown
He lived up in the Marquette, yeah.
00:26:13
Brandon Young
Yeah. It's a buddy of mine from Osco to Clint. He lives in L.A. now, but he we went up to Northern as well. And he saw, he was like, and a like befriending Bastion Booger.
00:26:21
Tom Brown
Yeah. How nice. That's better than my story.
00:26:25
Brandon Young
see He would like announce like um like ah indie wrestling shows. Like he would be like the ring announcer for some indie wrestling up there and and around the area.
00:26:31
Tom Brown
Oh, cool. Yeah.
00:26:35
Brandon Young
And so he was like friends with Bastion Booger and stuff.
00:26:35
Tom Brown
Nice.
00:26:37
Brandon Young
Yeah.
00:26:38
Tom Brown
Oh, that's neat.
00:26:39
Brandon Young
yeah He was like a bouncer.
00:26:39
Tom Brown
I appreciate that.
00:26:39
Brandon Young
and he's He's dead. He died, right?
00:26:41
Tom Brown
He died.
00:26:41
Brandon Young
Yeah. You
00:26:41
Tom Brown
Yeah, no. he but Like most pro wrestlers, they die young.
00:26:43
Brandon Young
there
00:26:45
Tom Brown
Yeah. It's interesting. They live hard lives, man.
00:26:48
Brandon Young
know who else died?
00:26:48
Tom Brown
Like, they live hard.
00:26:50
Brandon Young
You know who else died? Hulk Hogan. Hulk Hogan died. Yeah.
00:26:52
Tom Brown
hulk hogan died yeah that's crazy you should bring that up yeah yeah uh yeah yeah that was my first sight that's so immortal now is he
00:26:54
Brandon Young
yeah
00:26:56
Brandon Young
isn This is like the immortal Hulk Hogan. It's like, oh, Hulkamania is immortal. Yeah.
00:27:07
Brandon Young
yeah but it It is crazy that like ah his last appearance on TV, because he was promoting the real American beer the and Netflix whatever and in LA.
00:27:14
Tom Brown
yeah yeah yeah
00:27:17
Brandon Young
It's like, of course he's going to get booed in l LA being a Trump guy.
00:27:22
Tom Brown
Yeah, though it's crazy.
00:27:22
Brandon Young
ah so
00:27:24
Tom Brown
Last time I went to L.A., so many MAGA hats.
00:27:28
Brandon Young
Oh, really? In LA?
00:27:28
Tom Brown
Yeah. there Yeah, it's like kind of like – there's like a weird conservative streak going on there that they're – I think they're louder about it because there's less of them.
00:27:32
Brandon Young
How long ago? Three there like years ago, right?
00:27:39
Brandon Young
Okay.
00:27:40
Tom Brown
But it's just like, what? I thought – Like um my wife and if we're were like in a large public gathering, we'll still like wear masks and stuff.
00:27:44
Brandon Young
Okay. That's
00:27:49
Tom Brown
or you know We don't want to breathe.
00:27:49
Brandon Young
okay that's debatable.
00:27:50
Tom Brown
COVID's still around, guys. But of all people, yeah.
00:27:54
Brandon Young
Anyway.
00:27:56
Tom Brown
We're not going to debate that.
00:27:57
Tom Brown
ah
00:27:57
Brandon Young
Oh, and the Earth was flat too, by the way.
00:27:58
Brandon Young
Did you know that? Anyway, let's go.
00:27:59
Tom Brown
Well, duh. I know that. Duh.
00:28:01
Brandon Young
Okay.
00:28:01
Tom Brown
No curb. ah But we went to a show at the Comedy Store just to watch. And of all the comics, link just start picking on us. And it was just one. it was Harlan Williams.
00:28:11
Brandon Young
Okay. Yeah, he's a, he's a, I'm not sure if he's Trump full on, but he's right wing.
00:28:14
Tom Brown
Yeah. Yeah. A white-winged Canadian. That just doesn't sit well with me.
00:28:18
Brandon Young
Yeah. Yeah, that's quite odd.
00:28:21
Tom Brown
Yeah. So it was just like, I'm like, wait a Because at the time, I was still living in is in Missouri, essentially a rent state, and no one was giving me shit about it at all. And I go to L.A.
00:28:34
Tom Brown
It's the left coast. Ooh, let's all smoke a doobie and, like, be liberal.
00:28:36
Brandon Young
Yeah.
00:28:39
Tom Brown
And that's the the reaction we get. Like, what's going on here?
00:28:46
Brandon Young
Yeah, there were quite
00:28:46
Tom Brown
Oh, and by the way, and none of like and none of what Harlan Williams was saying was a funny or a joke.
00:28:52
Brandon Young
Oh, really?
00:28:53
Tom Brown
yeah Yeah, it was like...
00:28:53
Brandon Young
Oh, about when you were cycling.
00:28:56
Tom Brown
he felt It seemed like he was struggling with his actual material and just like focused it on us. It was like, alright, deflect the blame to these two.
00:29:04
Brandon Young
Yeah, I saw him, gosh, probably 20 years ago at the Laugh Factory.
00:29:09
Tom Brown
Yeah.
00:29:09
Brandon Young
He was fine. i saw I saw Michael Richards one week before he did, before he got canceled at the Laugh Factory.
00:29:13
Tom Brown
Oh! Ha ha ha! Whoops. Yeah. Yeah.
00:29:16
Brandon Young
I was sitting front row. I had my White Sox hat on. He was playing with my hat. and he was he was hilarious.
00:29:20
Tom Brown
oh
00:29:20
Brandon Young
And then a week later, that video came out. I was like, whoa, what?
00:29:24
Tom Brown
What?
00:29:24
Brandon Young
and we
00:29:24
Tom Brown
is it Yeah.
00:29:25
Brandon Young
Had we just gone a week later?
00:29:28
Tom Brown
No, is this is really weird.
00:29:29
Brandon Young
still you know, he may have been canceled, but he's still making millions of dollars every year off Seinfeld.
00:29:30
Tom Brown
no
00:29:34
Brandon Young
So,
00:29:34
Tom Brown
oh Yeah. Oh, He's going to be he's goingnna be fine.
00:29:38
Brandon Young
yeah, yeah.
00:29:38
Tom Brown
He's going to... Don't worry about it.
00:29:40
Brandon Young
Yeah, he just can't work.
00:29:40
Tom Brown
He's going to be...
00:29:41
Brandon Young
he doesn't I don't know if he does stand-up anymore or what.
00:29:43
Tom Brown
No, he wrote a book and then kind of tried to win on the talk show circuit, and it didn't go well.
00:29:50
Brandon Young
Yeah, so I just remember him, like, he was talking to, i think, Seinfeld, think Seinfeld was on, was it Larry King?
00:29:57
Tom Brown
That must have been a while ago, yeah, because Larry King's dead.
00:29:58
Brandon Young
years ago and apologize and You know, you know, I don't know what all, I'm trying to remember
00:30:03
Tom Brown
Yeah, I mean, I'm not going to excuse it, but like if... two like loud hecklers are getting really aggressive. And you're like, so I might try to find the most hurtful thing to say.
00:30:18
Brandon Young
Yeah.
00:30:18
Tom Brown
And that was the the most hurtful thing you could think to say, which was very inartful, but like at a certain level, yeah.
00:30:23
Brandon Young
You know, 50 years ago, we would have...
00:30:26
Tom Brown
Yeah.
00:30:26
Brandon Young
Oh, man, what?
00:30:26
Tom Brown
50 years ago, this was just a punchline, guys.
00:30:28
Brandon Young
Yeah, yeah.
00:30:28
Tom Brown
Yeah.
00:30:29
Brandon Young
50 years ago, it was totally fine to do that.
00:30:31
Tom Brown
Yeah.
00:30:32
Brandon Young
So, yeah, that ranks right up there with Hogan. And, like, honestly...
00:30:34
Tom Brown
Yeah. you know
00:30:36
Brandon Young
But except did it in such a public...
00:30:36
Tom Brown
ah
00:30:38
Brandon Young
and had And it's crazy because had that happened probably five years prior, like it wouldn't have been recorded.
00:30:45
Tom Brown
Yeah.
00:30:45
Brandon Young
you know i like Someone hadn't wouldn't have been able to record because the technology wasn't there.
00:30:49
Tom Brown
Yeah. Yeah, like, hey, brother, before we get down to this, ah I think I hear, so like, you hear the whirring and the buzzing of a VHS camera recorder that's the size of,
00:30:58
Brandon Young
Yeah. Well, I'm saying both, I mean, even both like with, cause Kramer, the, the Michael Richards thing happened.
00:31:01
Tom Brown
Yeah.
00:31:05
Brandon Young
I mean, I guess it was around the same time.
00:31:07
Tom Brown
Yeah.
00:31:08
Brandon Young
so yeah, you know, both them had the, you know, i mean, you had camcorders for Hogan, but I'm saying for, for Michael Richards, nobody would have had a camera, a camera phone in, in.
00:31:17
Tom Brown
Yeah. Oh,
Race Relations and Regional Experiences
00:31:18
Brandon Young
Yeah.
00:31:18
Tom Brown
a camera phone.
00:31:18
Tom Brown
Yeah, no, like for sure. Like, i was like like, it was like, it was these giant, I remember seeing the video on TV, it was just these giant pixels.
00:31:20
Brandon Young
record that
00:31:26
Tom Brown
You can't really see anything.
00:31:27
Brandon Young
yeah
00:31:28
Tom Brown
All I could tell, but you could hear the audio just fine.
00:31:29
Brandon Young
It was the audio. Yeah, the audio was great. So had no one recorded that, it would have just been a regular day and a regular Saturday night.
00:31:33
Tom Brown
Yeah.
00:31:38
Brandon Young
you know
00:31:38
Tom Brown
Yeah.
00:31:39
Brandon Young
Nothing probably would have came about from it.
00:31:41
Tom Brown
No, not at all.
00:31:42
Brandon Young
But since it was posted on social media and it blew up, like...
00:31:45
Tom Brown
Yeah. Yeah. I don't even think that was a year before social media.
00:31:49
Brandon Young
Okay.
00:31:50
Tom Brown
Like, what what year was that?
00:31:53
Brandon Young
Yeah, I'll look that up real quick.
00:31:54
Tom Brown
Yeah.
00:31:56
Brandon Young
just going to look up. Michael Richard canceled. What year was that? 2006.
00:32:00
Tom Brown
What year did Michael Ornick just cancel?
00:32:02
Brandon Young
Yeah, it's 2006. So it was literally like a year before the Hogan video was recorded.
00:32:04
Tom Brown
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:32:09
Brandon Young
Still doesn't make... Yeah, so 2006 is when when that happened.
00:32:15
Tom Brown
Yeah. Now, the video I would love to see from a that era, Laugh Factory incident, was when apparently John Lovitz violently attacking um Andy Dick.
00:32:26
Brandon Young
Oh, Andy Dick?
00:32:28
Tom Brown
Yeah, like smashing his head into the bar.
00:32:28
Brandon Young
Yeah.
00:32:30
Tom Brown
and but
00:32:30
Brandon Young
a man Like John Lovitz?
00:32:32
Tom Brown
Yeah.
00:32:33
Brandon Young
Like what?
00:32:33
Tom Brown
Yeah. Wait a second. John Lovitz threw down?
00:32:36
Brandon Young
With Andy Dick.
00:32:36
Tom Brown
about John Lovitz?
00:32:38
Brandon Young
Okay, I can see that.
00:32:38
Tom Brown
Yeah. Oh, with Andy Dick. Yeah, I'm getting it. But still, like, I can...
00:32:42
Brandon Young
so Yeah, so I used to go up because I lived in San Diego for a while. I used to go up to L.A. quite a bit but with my roommates and my roommate and and another friend of ours. so So we'd go up there and one time we we stayed up. I may um i don't know if it was the same time we went.
00:32:57
Brandon Young
and saw Michael Richards. It may have been around that same time. But anyway, Andy Dick, we went to a, like a brunch spot the next morning and Andy Dick was there at the brunch spot.
00:33:04
Tom Brown
Yeah.
00:33:06
Brandon Young
And he was with like, don't know, his personal assistant and like, he was with like two other people. All three of them were just on their phones the whole time. Just like, just talking on the phone the whole time, like during lunch.
00:33:14
Tom Brown
Yeah.
00:33:16
Brandon Young
And we're just like, or brunch whatever it was. We're like, oh, okay.
00:33:19
Tom Brown
Yeah.
00:33:20
Brandon Young
That's how the celebrities live, I guess.
00:33:21
Tom Brown
Yeah, always connected to the phone. Yeah.
00:33:23
Brandon Young
Yeah.
00:33:23
Tom Brown
I, uh, no, a buddy of mine was living in Chicago. I guess spent one night hanging out, going gay bar to gay bar with Andy Dick and his son.
00:33:33
Brandon Young
OK.
00:33:34
Tom Brown
Yeah. My friend, not gay, was like, I'm going to hang out with Andy Dick wherever he goes. Because he was a huge fan of the Andy Dick show.
00:33:43
Brandon Young
OK.
00:33:43
Tom Brown
Yeah. So he was like, oh, I'm going to just follow this guy around.
00:33:47
Brandon Young
Andy Dick would be nothing without Pauly Shore is all I'm trying to get at. And.
00:33:50
Tom Brown
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. In the Army Now, man. That movie... Dude, I watch In the art in the Army Now, like, so much.
00:33:54
Brandon Young
it's like
00:33:58
Tom Brown
So much as a kid.
00:33:58
Brandon Young
I
00:34:00
Tom Brown
I haven't watched it in a while, but I wonder... Does it hold up?
00:34:05
Brandon Young
i don't know. I haven't seen it in probably 25 years.
00:34:07
Tom Brown
Yeah. Yeah, it's been a hot minute. I watched that movie a lot.
00:34:10
Brandon Young
Also, there's nothing better than two white guys talking about race relations, by the way.
00:34:14
Tom Brown
I know, right? Yeah, because, like, we get it.
00:34:17
Brandon Young
Yeah.
00:34:17
Tom Brown
We get it. We're... weird We're hip and in the...
00:34:22
Brandon Young
I get racially profiled so much, you know.
00:34:22
Tom Brown
no cause like Yeah, yeah we're yeah we're we're just two guys, white dudes, mid-40s from rural Michigan.
00:34:24
Brandon Young
It's just...
00:34:29
Brandon Young
Yeah. Yeah.
00:34:31
Tom Brown
We get it.
00:34:31
Brandon Young
yeah Yeah. Well, ironically enough, when I did live in San Diego, my roommate from Oscoda, mind you, was a black man.
00:34:42
Tom Brown
Oh, wow.
00:34:43
Brandon Young
He was half black, half black, half white.
00:34:44
Tom Brown
Progressive of you. Yeah.
00:34:46
Brandon Young
We live with his mom, who was white. But, you know, whatever.
00:34:48
Tom Brown
Yeah.
00:34:49
Brandon Young
Still, he still classifies himself as black.
00:34:49
Tom Brown
Yeah.
00:34:52
Brandon Young
so
00:34:52
Tom Brown
Yeah. ah So would almost any racist.
00:34:55
Brandon Young
Yeah.
00:34:55
Tom Brown
So,
00:34:55
Brandon Young
Yeah. Yeah.
00:34:56
Tom Brown
yeah
00:34:57
Brandon Young
And wait, what?
Upcoming Comedy Shows and Festival Importance
00:34:59
Tom Brown
yeah. Yeah, know. where do How did we get here?
00:35:01
Brandon Young
Did we just cancel ourselves? What's going on here?
00:35:03
Tom Brown
ah Pretty much every one of these podcasts I do, I find a way to cancel myself. It's... so
00:35:08
Brandon Young
Well, you know, 70 years ago, they would have... So it's nuts. There's more Hulk Hogan.
00:35:12
Tom Brown
They would have been like, we have a new comedy team!
00:35:17
Tom Brown
This is the future right here, boys. Sign this contract!
00:35:21
Brandon Young
He's just...
00:35:21
Tom Brown
It's a 10-picture deal.
00:35:26
Brandon Young
like there's he's just
00:35:26
Tom Brown
Yeah.
00:35:27
Brandon Young
just in the bit All the thing is like all these wrestlers from the early WrestleManias, they're all gone. There's only a couple.
00:35:32
Tom Brown
Yeah.
00:35:34
Brandon Young
T is the only... and He was like a non-wrestler.
00:35:37
Tom Brown
Yeah, oddly enough, yeah.
00:35:39
Brandon Young
Still from the original.
00:35:41
Tom Brown
Cowboy Bob is still around.
00:35:42
Brandon Young
ye Yeah.
00:35:43
Tom Brown
Cowboy Bob Orton's still kicking. he's been He does a lot of events and stuff in the St. Louis area.
00:35:48
Brandon Young
Yeah.
00:35:49
Tom Brown
Yeah.
00:35:50
Brandon Young
to
00:35:50
Tom Brown
yeah orndal orndoff's paul orndoff he died a few years ago right yeah he's uh he's gone yeah uh obviously roddy right piper's been gone about a decade um uh think yeah they yeah yeah oh yeah
00:35:51
Brandon Young
Early WrestleManias. Yeah, he died a year ago. i believe a year or two ago.
00:36:03
Brandon Young
Lady Savage, Andre the Giant, Ultimate Warrior, those earlier manias. like i didn't I didn't realize Warrior died 11 years ago. I thought it was like 5 years It's been 11 years.
00:36:13
Tom Brown
yeah it's 11 years yeah like
00:36:15
Brandon Young
2014. Yeah. fourteen
00:36:18
Tom Brown
I, I, it was around the time I started watching wrestling again. I think I randomly put on raw that night and it was like him doing that, like farewell speech in which he died from a heart attack the next day.
00:36:24
Brandon Young
yeah
00:36:28
Brandon Young
and He said some really bad things too. but
00:36:30
Tom Brown
Oh God, he was the worst.
00:36:31
Brandon Young
oh yeah
00:36:33
Tom Brown
He was probably one of the worst of a profession of like bad people.
00:36:34
Brandon Young
i gain Yeah.
00:36:37
Tom Brown
Everyone was like, no, that guy is the worst. Yeah.
00:36:40
Brandon Young
People didn't like him as a wrestler. A lot of people didn't like him as a person.
00:36:44
Tom Brown
Yeah.
00:36:45
Brandon Young
so
00:36:45
Tom Brown
Just a lot to unlike about it. Um, I think, yeah.
00:36:48
Brandon Young
He had a great physique. He had a lot of energy.
00:36:51
Tom Brown
Yeah. I mean, I recently learned Bret Hart pretty much stole the sharpshooter from Sting, not the other way around.
00:36:56
Brandon Young
Oh, yeah.
00:36:56
Tom Brown
And I didn't know that.
00:36:56
Brandon Young
You didn't know that?
00:36:58
Tom Brown
i In my heart, it was always Bret Hart's move.
00:36:59
Brandon Young
yeah
00:37:01
Brandon Young
I can't remember. There was like an originator from Japan who Sting got it from.
00:37:04
Tom Brown
Yeah.
00:37:05
Brandon Young
And then Hart was, because they were literally, Hart literally just said, even recently, was talking about it. He was like, you know, yeah you need a submission. And I was trying to find a submission.
00:37:13
Tom Brown
Yeah. I saw this video.
00:37:14
Brandon Young
One who told him about the Scorpion Death Lock.
00:37:15
Tom Brown
Yeah. This is where I learned it. Yeah.
00:37:19
Brandon Young
He's like, oh, how do I tell him how to put the Scorpion Death Lock on?
00:37:19
Tom Brown
Yeah.
00:37:22
Tom Brown
Yeah.
00:37:22
Brandon Young
I won't call the sharpshooter because it is the Scorpion Death Lock.
00:37:22
Tom Brown
Yeah.
00:37:25
Tom Brown
Well,
00:37:26
Brandon Young
scorpion death lock is a way cooler name than sharpshooter yeah yeah yeah i get that but still scorpion death lock like it's a death it's like it looks you know if you look at it it looks like a scorpion because the legs are up like the finger and the sting so yeah
00:37:28
Tom Brown
it was the hitman, the sharpshooter. It makes sense. Yeah.
00:37:34
Tom Brown
Yeah, that's pretty creepy out yeah that that no, that's pretty, is, as names go, it's pretty intimidating and tight.
00:37:43
Tom Brown
Yeah, exactly. It looks exactly like that. Yeah. Sting, his name's Sting. Yeah, so, yeah, I get it. Also, to wrap that back was tag team partners with the the Ultimate Warrior.
00:37:56
Brandon Young
Yeah.
00:37:57
Tom Brown
Yeah.
00:37:57
Brandon Young
yeah The original the Blade Runners back in the mid-80s.
00:37:59
Tom Brown
Yeah.
00:38:02
Brandon Young
They were both bodybuilders turned pro wrestlers.
00:38:02
Tom Brown
Yeah.
00:38:05
Tom Brown
And one could do it and the other it was Warrior.
00:38:07
Brandon Young
Yeah, Sting was good.
00:38:08
Tom Brown
Yeah, Sting was great.
00:38:08
Brandon Young
mean Warrior was huge.
00:38:10
Tom Brown
Sting was fantastic, yeah.
00:38:11
Brandon Young
Yeah, was more athletic than Warrior because Warrior was just muscle-bound.
00:38:11
Tom Brown
Like, that was like the, like, if I, so in the early days when was flipping between programs, Sting would be the guy to keep me on WCW programming.
00:38:22
Tom Brown
Yeah. Yeah.
00:38:25
Brandon Young
Sting could move.
00:38:25
Tom Brown
He was like, he was sleeker. He looks like he could actually like run around and like wrestle and do things with that.
00:38:30
Brandon Young
Yeah, it's like John Cena was a bodybuilder too when he started the prototype when he did it.
00:38:31
Tom Brown
Yeah.
00:38:34
Tom Brown
Yeah. Oh yeah.
00:38:36
Brandon Young
He was just a meathead, big build.
00:38:38
Tom Brown
Yeah. Yeah.
00:38:38
Brandon Young
Yeah.
00:38:40
Tom Brown
Yeah, but that was a guy, like, he came up when I wasn't watching wrestling, so I knew of him in the periphery, and I was like, I don't like this guy. The Fruity Pebbles box guy, oh this seems this guy seems lame.
00:38:51
Brandon Young
Yeah.
00:38:53
Tom Brown
And then started watching wrestling again, and I watched him, ah i like, specifically his promos. I'm like, oh, this guy's a genius. No wonder he's doing so well.
00:39:02
Brandon Young
Yeah. It's like, oh, he knows how get the crowd involved.
00:39:03
Tom Brown
It was, you know, like, oh, I totally get it now.
00:39:05
Brandon Young
Okay. but of wait Here and there.
00:39:07
Tom Brown
Like, I totally get this now.
00:39:12
Tom Brown
we'll We'll wrap up. I know you're you're still doing comedy down in Carolina there? those things go.
00:39:18
Brandon Young
I've got a show.
00:39:18
Tom Brown
Yeah.
00:39:19
Brandon Young
i'm doing a church show August 16th in Warrington, Virginia.
00:39:23
Tom Brown
All right.
00:39:23
Brandon Young
So it's at United Methodist Church in Warrington. that'll be fun.
00:39:27
Tom Brown
Where is Warrington in relation to, like, anything?
00:39:28
Brandon Young
I'll
00:39:31
Brandon Young
It's about an hour west of DC-ish.
00:39:33
Tom Brown
okay. So you're go oh you're going, like like, kind of north-ish, northern Virginia.
00:39:34
Brandon Young
Yeah. Yeah, have to drive like six hours to get there. Six-ish hours.
00:39:38
Tom Brown
Yeah. Yeah. And it'll be, it'll be one of the prettiest drives of your life.
00:39:41
Brandon Young
Probably, yeah.
00:39:42
Tom Brown
Probably. Yeah.
00:39:43
Brandon Young
Yeah, my wife had a co-worker.
00:39:43
Tom Brown
I, yeah.
00:39:45
Brandon Young
she was telling her co-worker about it because wife's coming with me. And, yeah.
00:39:48
Tom Brown
Oh, fun.
00:39:49
Brandon Young
So she was telling her co-worker, co-worker's like, oh, you got to take the 81 and not take the main street. You go, it's a much better view. like, right, whatever.
00:39:57
Tom Brown
Oh yeah.
00:39:57
Brandon Young
I'm like, oh.
00:39:58
Tom Brown
i lived I lived in, like lived in, i was in like Blacksburg for four months, which was like a Virginia tech area.
00:40:04
Brandon Young
Okay.
00:40:07
Tom Brown
It's really, really neat. Um,
00:40:08
Brandon Young
That's a horrible thing that happened there too, by the way.
00:40:10
Tom Brown
Oh, gee.
00:40:10
Brandon Young
Oh,
00:40:11
Tom Brown
Oh, yeah.
00:40:13
Brandon Young
Oh, jeez.
00:40:13
Tom Brown
No, that was, that was, what that happened on my birthday.
00:40:13
Brandon Young
yeah we talking oh man
00:40:16
Tom Brown
That one, uh, that, that, that shooting there. Um, but yeah. And then like when I was there, there was like ah this festival and this local, like ah probably to this local gun group that was to the, I would say the far right of the NRA was like raffling off the same Glock 17 style pistol that the shooter used in that mass shooting there.
00:40:30
Brandon Young
oh gee
00:40:36
Brandon Young
man
00:40:37
Tom Brown
And we're like a quarter mile from campus. Like what's wrong with you?
00:40:42
Brandon Young
Oh, man.
00:40:43
Tom Brown
Yeah. It's like support your guns. That's cool. But maybe don't rub it in people's faces.
00:40:48
Brandon Young
Yeah, not the same exact. Yeah.
00:40:49
Tom Brown
It's not a good look for you.
00:40:51
Brandon Young
In fact, it's the same exact one. We stole it from police.
00:40:53
Tom Brown
Oh, yeah. You know it works.
00:40:55
Brandon Young
What? Oh, geez.
00:40:56
Tom Brown
Yeah.
00:40:58
Brandon Young
Yeah, so we're going up there.
00:40:58
Tom Brown
Yeah.
00:40:59
Brandon Young
and my wife's going. It's actually cool. I got the gig. A woman I went to college with. I worked with her at the Student Activity Center at Central. she She goes there, so she was able to to set it up for me.
00:41:12
Tom Brown
Oh, nice.
00:41:13
Brandon Young
that's really cool. And there's also, i know a couple people like in the area-ish, so hopefully they come out.
00:41:17
Tom Brown
Yeah.
00:41:19
Brandon Young
My mom has some relatives that live there. They're coming out to the show, so that'll be kind of cool.
00:41:24
Tom Brown
Yeah, that's great.
00:41:25
Brandon Young
You guys?
00:41:26
Tom Brown
That's great. yeah i'm go I'm going to be kind of near there myself ah beginning of like or Labor Day weekend. I um ah got show at the Baltimore Comedy Festival.
00:41:33
Brandon Young
yeah
00:41:35
Brandon Young
Oh, cool.
00:41:36
Tom Brown
and And then I'm going to upstate New York at the end of September for the Finger Lakes Comedy Festival.
00:41:41
Brandon Young
Oh, fun. Yeah.
00:41:42
Tom Brown
Am I getting paid for any this?
00:41:43
Brandon Young
No, of course not.
00:41:44
Tom Brown
No. But I'm literally getting paid in exposure.
00:41:47
Brandon Young
Yeah, it's fun.
00:41:48
Tom Brown
I got so much exposure points built up, man.
00:41:48
Brandon Young
You can meet a lot of people.
00:41:50
Tom Brown
like I got to cash this in somehow sometime.
00:41:52
Brandon Young
You can meet a lot of cool people and that helps out.
00:41:53
Tom Brown
You're a yeah
00:41:55
Brandon Young
Like I go to home to a city.
00:41:55
Tom Brown
I was having a good time.
00:41:57
Brandon Young
and There's from doing festivals, San Diego comedy festival, Paul Bonin comedy festival. and I know so many comics and all these different places that I can, you know if I really wanted to do some gigs like non-paid or whatever, i could hit people up.
00:42:08
Tom Brown
Yeah. Yeah,
00:42:08
Brandon Young
Just, they could probably point me in the right direction. So that helps.
00:42:11
Tom Brown
and exactly.
00:42:13
Brandon Young
Okay.
00:42:13
Tom Brown
All right. Well, thank you so much, Brandon.
00:42:14
Brandon Young
Oh
00:42:15
Tom Brown
And I guess Hulkamania lives forever, brother.
00:42:19
Brandon Young
man, it's running a wild. It's immortal. Never going to die.
00:42:21
Tom Brown
Immortal. All right.
00:42:22
Brandon Young
All right, brother. All brother.
00:42:24
Tom Brown
All right, brother. brother
00:42:25
Brandon Young
Oh, but