Introduction and Guest Welcome
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Tom Brown
What's that about? Hey, you said the name of the show right off the top. like Timing was perfect. Yeah.
00:00:06
Tom Brown
ah yeah I think I tried to record an intro, but it's not going to splice together later. So I'm just like, well, this is the show. Welcome to What's That About
Podcasting Humor and Controversies
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Tom Brown
with Tom Brown. I got my guest, Larry Smith.
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Tom Brown
He's a stand-up comedian from Chicago. Well, now of Chicago, formerly of Springfield, Illinois.
00:00:23
Tom Brown
ah good friend of mine, maybe a good friend of yours. Hopefully Larry shares this so we get more than the six streams ah that was recorded on the last one. and um bakin up big Doing big numbers here on the internet.
00:00:38
Larry
Boo-boo! That's... ah
00:00:40
Tom Brown
this is where This is where the dreams come to die. ah Either your podcast does very well, you get a little audience because you talk about conspiracy theories and crazy shit, or you jerk off Joe Rogan a little bit, have some elk meat, have RFK Jr. on.
00:00:57
Tom Brown
Or you just sputter into oblivion like where i already am. So, yeah.
00:01:03
Larry
Well, you're not sputtering into, you're just sputtering around.
00:01:06
Tom Brown
Around oblivion, yeah, i'm just there already.
Personal Life Updates and Adjustments
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Tom Brown
I'm like a binary star just collapsing on itself.
00:01:13
Larry
Ah, yes. That's... but So, like, Queen Phoenix?
00:01:18
Tom Brown
Yeah. yeah Or if Mark Barrett never made it big, you know.
00:01:20
Larry
River Phoenix! River Phoenix would have been a better reference. Why Queen Phoenix?
00:01:23
Larry
That was a whole joke thing that he did. River Phoenix really did implode.
00:01:29
Tom Brown
That was, yeah, right outside right outside the Viper room. Yeah,
00:01:32
Larry
Well, and if you're to it anywhere.
00:01:38
Tom Brown
Yeah, this is a good chance to catch up.
00:01:40
Tom Brown
It's been a long time, it feels like. um I wanted you to be one of my first people on this because we always have a good conversation. and always in the middle of it like, this would have been an awesome podcast.
00:01:54
Larry
Yeah, we do that a lot. i
00:01:56
Larry
But I also, ill I'll be honest, I'm really glad that I don't have to, ah that it's been a while since I've done my own podcasts, and I don't have to stop and like, this would make really good content.
00:02:08
Larry
i ah i ah ah ah Yeah, so we moved up here in November.
00:02:08
Tom Brown
Yeah. Excuse me. Let me get out my app. Yeah.
00:02:17
Larry
I had a bunch of road gigs to finish up. And then January, i pretty much just took January off just so I could be a human in Chicago, which it seems like an oxymoron because when I'm in Chicago, i am, I drink enough to make a Hemingway go, Hey man, maybe, maybe we should slow it down.
00:02:46
Tom Brown
And right there, we all have our demons, and well, we sometimes
Comedy Gigs and Sponsorships
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Tom Brown
follow them. And maybe you should stop.
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Tom Brown
i we We're not doing a video podcast, but if the people can see me right now, I'm wearing a very Hemingway-esque sweater.
00:02:58
Tom Brown
It's either Hemingway or an old Sea Captain, or either way, i'm going to blow my brains out Key you West later.
00:03:03
Larry
Yeah, I'm going to taste test a shotgun.
00:03:05
Larry
ah You can't see the Molson Golden sign behind me. It's not on, but my ah my one of my most prized possessions, the Molson Golden neon sign.
00:03:13
Tom Brown
Of course. Oh, man, I haven't had Molson Golden in years.
00:03:18
Larry
ah Do they even make Molson Golden?
00:03:20
Tom Brown
ah You know, um and I can probably find some. I'm in Michigan now. It's easier here to get Molson products here now that I'm out of ah ah the the great state of Missouri.
00:03:35
Tom Brown
Oh, my God. it was but Even though I'm drinking bush still, like some parts, of yeah it's like the latched on like a disease and won't go. He gets meat hooks out of me.
00:03:46
Tom Brown
Bush is one of them. So, hey, but if you're if you're from the great company Bush and you want to sponsor the show, give me yeah my e-mails, thobrown at gmail.com. Just ah e-mail me directly. I'm not putting my phone number out there right now, but, hey, e-mail me
Housing and Neighborhood Dynamics
00:04:02
Tom Brown
and I'll get back to you.
00:04:04
Larry
And yeah you know what, Bush, if you want to sponsor a tour, Tom and I are great fun. ah
00:04:11
Larry
We're we're we're we loads of fun. And also, if any anyone from Four Roses Distillery is listening.
00:04:17
Tom Brown
Oh yeah. Now you're talking about good stuff. Yeah. Um, so, uh, part of myself is interesting. I was in Louisville, uh, or Louisville or however you want to fucking pronounce it. If you're local, I guess.
00:04:29
Tom Brown
louisville If you've had a lot of four words, it's definitely Louisville.
00:04:34
Tom Brown
Um, I have proposed to my wife down there. Um, and i mean we, uh, went out for dinner right afterwards. Um, And i got a flight of different bourbons, and one I believe was Four Roses, and I think it may have have been my least favorite of the four. Yeah.
00:04:49
Larry
Oh, well, mean, depending on what you get.
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Larry
say I like Four Roses. it's It's a real, and they have like
Insights on Comedy Career Challenges
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Larry
three different kinds out right now, that i at least that I've tried, and a varying degrees of, I don't want to say quality.
00:05:06
Larry
They're all quality, but varying degrees of of ah ah and of years that have they've been
00:05:14
Larry
the you know maturing and for the price point For the price point, you can't go wrong with Four Roses. But I tell you what, no one very few people believe me.
00:05:27
Larry
Evan Williams. I'll drink an Evan Williams. It is, you for 11 bucks a bottle, poof.
00:05:35
Tom Brown
And if it does it for you, I mean, you know, I mean, i've had some really bad stuff at that same price point.
00:05:41
Tom Brown
I've had some worse stuff at a higher price point, too. So, yeah.
00:05:43
Larry
Oh, yeah. I forget. I forget there was a bourbon that a bartender the other day was like, hey, you got to try this. And I took a sip and No.
00:05:50
Tom Brown
who Was it Malort Bourbon? Jepson's Bourbon? but
00:05:54
Larry
I've had that and it made me angry. Somebody was like, eh, we got to try this. And I was like, we don't.
00:05:58
Tom Brown
No. but We don't, yeah.
00:05:59
Larry
We don't have to do anything from Jepson's anymore.
00:06:02
Tom Brown
ah Jepson should sponsor this show. I mean, I've i've now talked about Jepson's on two episodes straight.
00:06:08
Larry
And you've got a clip out there where the guy forced you to do a shot of Malort.
00:06:09
Tom Brown
I need some payback. Come on.
00:06:13
Tom Brown
Oh, he can forge me too. I was giddy about it, honestly.
00:06:18
Larry
I'm just... Well, okay.
00:06:19
Tom Brown
i was so excited. ah was so excited that I was going to get a shot of a Lord on stage and I had the video going.
00:06:25
Tom Brown
It's like, hey, you know what? Most of this video is going to suck, but I got this little chunk here that Honestly, ah didn't get too much too many likes on the internet. l like It was like 189 views on TikTok and like nine likes.
Influences and Storytelling in Comedy
00:06:40
Larry
what? It's the kids don't drink anymore, Tom. The kids just don't drink.
00:06:43
Larry
You know, um na are ah so the we've got
00:06:43
Tom Brown
They're pussies, yeah.
00:06:47
Larry
Shout out Gannon's Pub that is right next door to our apartment. um the One of the bartenders is, ah he's just, if he drinks, he has a beer at home, but he's tried to cut back because he's he also he plays hockey and he does some other stuff and he's trying to just get himself back into shape. And I was like, no, no I can't have a sober bartender.
00:07:09
Larry
That doesn't seem right.
00:07:09
Tom Brown
but Yeah. yeah um
00:07:12
Larry
Although, ah shout out to...
00:07:13
Tom Brown
Yeah. I did bartend in Chicago and when I was there, and the thing that sucked about work, so it was so was a comedy club that doesn't exist anymore. The Lakeshore Theater is now the Laugh Factory.
00:07:25
Tom Brown
But the rule was, they had a bunch of weird rules. You couldn't date anyone on staff. You couldn't take take a shift drink.
00:07:36
Tom Brown
Yeah. Yeah. And I know I could have at least ah accomplished one of those two things.
00:07:41
Larry
hey The shift drink? Yes, absolutely.
00:07:44
Tom Brown
the shifting ah
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Tom Brown
Obviously, obviously.
00:07:46
Larry
Obviously the shift drink. i Yeah, dude. i i with The dive bar that I worked at years ago, the rule was, I think, two shift drinks.
00:07:59
Larry
but you go and The owner was always like, but i mean have whatever. Just don't get shit-faced
00:08:02
Tom Brown
But if you get shift-faced, know, whatever.
00:08:05
Larry
He's like, just don't get shit-faced and burn the place down. And I'm like, God, I love this job.
00:08:10
Larry
It's really, I think, it prepared me for being a comedian on a bad night. Because at least I'm getting free drinks.
00:08:16
Larry
At least I'm getting free drinks.
00:08:17
Tom Brown
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Well, I think I did get to two free drinks at this last show I did. like The bar gave me a um ah bush, and then the the crazy drunk guy gave me a shot of Malort.
00:08:30
Tom Brown
So that's that's fantastic.
00:08:34
Larry
i it just You gotta love that. You got ah the the the perks of of road comedy.
00:08:42
Larry
Dude, so ah did I tell you why I sent you my my EPK the other day and was like, please make sure these videos open? And yeah, because I had sent it to, I'm just gonna, no names, but I'd sent it to a booker at a club up here.
00:08:49
Tom Brown
Actually play work. Yeah
00:09:00
Larry
because I've got some good vouchers, some real solid vouchers.
00:09:04
Larry
And he, um like, couple hours later sends back, very friendly, Hey, Larry, every time I click on a video, it says preview, not available. Can you try again? and I was like, and I was like, ah so I sent it to, like, you, because I don't think I've ever sent you my EPK before.
Blending Comedy with Life Experiences
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Tom Brown
may have, but I don't think so.
00:09:22
Larry
Yeah, I, and if it has been, it's been, like,
00:09:25
Larry
i I need a pick. But you always just went and found the best shots. Actually, no. I think you just have like one. You had one old head shot of me drinking.
00:09:35
Tom Brown
Yeah, it's a good one. it's like it's in It's in my Canva file. I'm like, that that's Larry.
00:09:39
Larry
Yep. Well, it adds a thing.
00:09:40
Tom Brown
And then I like, and then I like, do they really, you have your name and pose on it, but it looks like none of the font I want to use in anything. So i'm just like scrub it out and it looks perfect.
00:09:49
Larry
Yeah. Well, and that's, that's the thing with that one. Half the, my beard is covered. So you can't see that when that headshot was taken, this was still like color, uh, as opposed to just gray and white now.
00:10:04
Tom Brown
yeah you get the little Yeah, you get the little right in the center there. It's very... ah i'm ah um I'm probably a couple years from that myself. It's... ah yeah little he can't In the video, he's blurry and no one else can see it. But he can't see it. It's like a little bit of gray peppering this thing right now. and
00:10:20
Larry
Yeah, it's a buddy of mine up here.
00:10:24
Larry
um he He's a year older than me, and he finally is starting to get some gray in his hair and his beard.
00:10:33
Larry
And he's got, like, coal black hair and this dark, dark beard.
00:10:36
Tom Brown
Oh, yeah. so it's going to pop. Yeah.
00:10:37
Larry
Yeah. But he's good he's one of those guys that's, like, he's just handsome. Like, no matter what happens, he's a handsome dude. And so, like, now he's just, like,
00:10:46
Tom Brown
Yeah. I can totally relate to that.
00:10:49
Larry
Yeah, absolutely. i Right?
00:10:50
Tom Brown
obviously Yeah. Obviously,
00:10:51
Larry
Yeah. ah But yeah, when i saw I saw him the other day, and I was like, oh, thank God, you're finally fucking aging.
00:10:59
Larry
But yeah, dude, i so i said i get i so I said, I'm like, hey, I'm trying, I'm going to, you know, here's the here's two separate links. um You know, i've I've had these tested. They so they should be working.
00:11:11
Larry
So I don't know, and I haven't heard back, and I'm like, having that existential crisis of, of, well, that was it.
00:11:19
Larry
That was my one chance. And I did.
00:11:22
Larry
There's your one chance fancy. And you let yourself down. ah You, but but then I'm like,
00:11:26
Tom Brown
sorry you're not Sorry you're not getting into the lab factory, yeah or whatever it is. Okay.
00:11:29
Larry
but but but then, but I was like, but um that's not, it wasn't my fault. That was, I think, i think that was your fault. ah Not yours, but the, because don't, yeah.
00:11:39
Tom Brown
Big guy, I understand
00:11:42
Larry
But, you know, its the things that we...
00:11:44
Tom Brown
The Google Drive stuff is is difficult because I think they need to also have like Google Drive access.
00:11:57
Tom Brown
Because i know yeah like I know I open it and immediately went open all my Google Drive shit goes like, hey, you're Tom Brown and this is your thing and you can open this now. Yeah.
00:12:09
Larry
but Maybe i'll ah I'll transfer some... you see See, now I'm thinking. I'm like, man. So I'll transfer some stuff over to Dropbox and send a ah Dropbox link as well.
00:12:20
Larry
Because loading it loading it onto YouTube just seems
Renting Versus Owning a Home
00:12:27
Tom Brown
Yeah. i mean Yeah. I mean, well, if it was a YouTube link, that makes sense. That would work.
00:12:32
Larry
But that's the thing.
00:12:32
Tom Brown
That should work.
00:12:32
Larry
That's the thing, though.
00:12:33
Tom Brown
YouTube works for fucking everyone.
00:12:35
Larry
yeah But Google Drive should work if you have the link.
00:12:39
Larry
because Because Nicole doesn't have – she's got Google, but she doesn't have a Google Drive account or anything like that.
00:12:47
Larry
she doesn't have her Google Drive set up, and she can she can open it. this is hi This is the back-end stuff of of comedian shit that nobody –
00:12:56
Tom Brown
yeah this is like i like only the super nerds are would be listening to this point our friends checked out a while ago yeah yeah oh yeah cool
00:13:03
Larry
Yeah, yeah. Anybody that's not industry is like, meh. but But some but new here's the thing. Newer people, newer comedians are listening to this right now going, all right, let's Dropbox.
00:13:15
Tom Brown
Don't do this. Don't do that. Don't do this. Don't do that. That guy seems, he's done this for 10 years. Really? Couldn't tell.
00:13:23
Tom Brown
Couldn't tell. Thought it was like three.
00:13:25
Larry
Here's the thing. Here's the thing. I've never had anybody have a problem, though, with with my ah EPK. I've never had anyone have any problem opening it.
00:13:35
Larry
Anybody have any issue playing anything. um And so, like, it panicked me. um'm I'm still panicked.
00:13:44
Larry
I'm still panicked, Tom.
00:13:45
Tom Brown
I can tell. I can tell.
00:13:48
Tom Brown
You'll be less panicked.
00:13:48
Larry
Oh, right. Right. But Daddy's Medicine.
00:13:51
Tom Brown
Yeah. You have go away juice right in your hand. It's fine.
00:13:54
Larry
That's right. I forgot. I got calm i got calm down juiced.
00:13:57
Larry
Uh, look, it's a toast to Ravenswood. Cheers.
00:14:00
Tom Brown
Oh, there you go. Cheers.
00:14:01
Larry
So one were the first events we went to up here was a toast to Ravenswood.
00:14:08
Larry
Uh, because we are where we are, ah we're in North center and we're right up in like, cause North center comes to kind of a weird little corner angle where it, where it meets, um,
00:14:24
Larry
where it meets ah Lincoln Square. And then, like, you just walk, like, two blocks this way, and you're in Ravenswood. So we are, like, we we are
City Life and Personal Stories
00:14:37
Larry
right in the middle of...
00:14:40
Tom Brown
Like five neighborhoods.
00:14:41
Larry
Yeah, and they're and it's, like, all the best neighborhoods, you know, depending on your you know what you're looking for.
00:14:48
Tom Brown
I lived in Rogers Park at the time when I lived there.
00:14:50
Tom Brown
I liked it because it was seemingly nice and much cheaper than literally anywhere else in the city. So, yeah, it's a hike.
00:14:57
Larry
yeah We looked at Rogers Park, but it was a little north. the
00:15:02
Larry
when We got friends up in Rogers Park. They love it.
00:15:05
Larry
But yeah, we like...
00:15:06
Tom Brown
Some good bars there. i know I think there's some mics up there now, too. Like, there wasn't that one.
00:15:10
Tom Brown
Of course, when I was there, I was like, I'm doing my make-em-up improvs. I'm going, I-O. Boy, I think I'm going to be on SNL one day. Boy. Can't wait to get some weird old characters.
00:15:21
Tom Brown
Lauren's going to lie
00:15:24
Larry
I think you should actually audition for SNL with that character that you were just doing.
00:15:30
Larry
the The improv guy.
00:15:32
Tom Brown
It's improv guy.
00:15:35
Larry
Yeah. So, I actually...
00:15:37
Tom Brown
And some guy is just like, that's just me. That doesn't seem ironic at all.
00:15:48
Larry
i Yeah, I actually went out to some open mics the other night and then got chastised by ah an old headliner because I was talking with him.
00:15:58
Larry
and he who's Also, he's a Chicago guy and tours and and stuff. But like he and I were chatting. and he was He was like, what's what's four minutes going to do for you?
00:16:11
Larry
He's like, I've seen your act. He said, you don't have anything that's four minutes long. yeah that was
00:16:16
Tom Brown
You don't go. Yeah.
Early Influences and Comedy Evolution
00:16:17
Larry
I was like, yeah. He goes, you're not, that's not what you do. You need to be doing, concentrating on these. And he's, and he's like, ah he's a Chicago native. So he's like yelling at me, yelling at me, but he's getting onto me and and, and, and we're messaging, but I can hear his Chicago accent.
00:16:35
Tom Brown
Yeah. You need to be going there. You need to be going to the fucker checko hot there. You're going to give me about 15, 20 minutes, you know, uh,
00:16:44
Larry
it's Perfect, yeah. That was that was it. That was it.
00:16:47
Larry
but You can practice one of your land-winded stories doing a longer set.
00:16:52
Larry
the You'll be going out to the burbs a little bit more is what you need to be doing. But, yeah, this is... it It's just... Rebuild it. like So, it's it's been weird, dude, because we up...
00:17:10
Larry
ah the the last kid graduated and I'm only in my forties. That's right. I had children when I was very young. Um, I got it out of the way.
00:17:18
Tom Brown
Condoms, what's that?
00:17:22
Tom Brown
Condoms, what's that?
00:17:24
Tom Brown
What's that about? Yeah.
00:17:25
Larry
Hey, what's that about?
00:17:27
Larry
Um, but, uh, yeah. So the, I became, and I didn't realize this. I'm like, no, no empty nesters are old people. And I was like, yeah,
00:17:39
Larry
Right. i where We are empty.
00:17:41
Larry
Because I'm like, Nicole's not even 40. She's later still in her 30s.
00:17:48
Larry
I'm in my mid-40s. I'm not that old. I can't be an empty... Oh, right. No, everybody's gone. oh shit.
00:17:53
Tom Brown
Yeah. Oh, wow. Whoopsies.
00:17:56
Larry
And then we up uprooted our lives and moved up to the city. And i was said I said it for a minute. It felt like in the Wile E.
00:18:07
Larry
Coyote Roadrunner cartoon when he actually caught the Roadrunner, but it was after they went back through the pipe. Roadrunner goes back to regular size, but Wile E.
00:18:16
Larry
Coyote stays small, and he runs up and he grabs his ankle, and he looks at looks as the audience, holds up a sign that says, well, I've caught him, flips it and says, so now what?
00:18:19
Tom Brown
yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:18:26
Larry
And that's what this has felt like for...
00:18:29
Tom Brown
Oh, yeah. No, it's everything's a replay. I did the move to, and I guess, a non-traditional comedy city, ah St. Louis to Grand Rapids. And it's been an adjustment for me, for sure.
00:18:42
Tom Brown
um And that, like, there ist there aren't any, like, just drop-in mics. You can't just drop into a mic and and do your thing. you all You have, like, a month in advance message all the mic runners like, hey, I'd like some spot a spot next month. A spot, not spots, plural, a spot.
00:19:02
Tom Brown
And the the nice thing is like you do do get more time. You
Chicago Comedy Scene and Challenges
00:19:05
Tom Brown
like seven minutes compared to like four or five or in some mics three. um so which is that Then you do have the the one club mic here where you've got to figure out who the guy is because they do not put anything about it on the website.
00:19:19
Tom Brown
So you then, like, have you figure out, okay, I found the guy, and then you message it You add him on Facebook. Does he accept my friend request? Took a little while. Finally does. Accepted my message. Like, oh, yeah, I can give you three minutes, six weeks from now.
00:19:33
Tom Brown
And then, like, the next time I'm scheduled to be on there, literally, i message him end of January, and they're like, oh, we have spots available in May. So I think it's May 7th.
00:19:49
Larry
Sweet. Hey, awesome, buddy.
00:19:50
Tom Brown
I'm like, again, for three minutes. Yeah. ah But then I'm like, you know, I'm doing a bunch of other, you know, I got the bar comedy thing now. So I got a show out of that so far. I'm, you know, still trying to get more gigs out of that. ah
00:20:04
Tom Brown
I'm doing the World Series of Comedy in ah Indianapolis in a couple of weeks. um Next week, I'll be at a club, that club in Niles, underground laugh lounge being there We're trying to find ah our new feature contest.
00:20:18
Tom Brown
By the way, you'll get a spot in 2026.
00:20:22
Tom Brown
Yeah, it's like, okay, cool. I'm auditioning for work much, much, much further in the future. I'm like, I'm about to turn 42. I don't know how many years of this I got left.
00:20:33
Larry
no ah ah here you you'll Look, I'll be honest. it's been It was real nice to be semi-retired.
00:20:41
Larry
um And then we went out and saw like some comedy and I was like, I can't get back on stage. yeah I missed
00:20:49
Larry
But like again, for just just that month of January where all I had to do was go watch live music and hang out and be like supportive of friends, other friends in the arts, and just hang out.
00:21:03
Larry
I was like, this is nice.
00:21:05
Larry
this is varied But I also, like it will be nice to start building up doing stuff in the city.
00:21:16
Larry
Doing spots in the city where I can be like, yep, I'm doing... the Tuesday, the, the, the rib ticklers at, at, uh, Johnny butt fucks out in the burbs.
00:21:27
Tom Brown
yeah Oh my god, you know Johnny Buttfucks? Oh my god, that place has the best Chicago beef.
00:21:32
Larry
Oh, I'm saying I've heard the wings were fantastic. The boneless wings.
00:21:36
Tom Brown
so It's all about the beef, man. It's all about the beef.
00:21:39
Larry
I, well, you know, we, uh, Johnny butt fucks has the best beef.
00:21:41
Tom Brown
Johnny Buttfucks has the best beef.
00:21:44
Larry
That's what they're known for. Not even the comedy.
00:21:45
Tom Brown
Yeah, duh. We all know that.
00:21:46
Larry
Everyone should go for the beef. Stay for
Upcoming Performances and Industry Navigation
00:21:49
Tom Brown
yeah Oh, man. speak a Chicago beef. that is a ah I love it. It's great. um But when i first I first moved to Chicago, i was ah staying with a ah a friend of mine from college, um this this girl.
00:22:04
Tom Brown
And we're ah the plan was we were going to move into an apartment together. She was going to get in there first. But because she got there first, her budget wasn't great. She got a studio, which as roommates ain't going to work all that well.
00:22:17
Tom Brown
And then like the first weekend, I go out. uh, hang out with a friend of mine uh, we go to like, see a show at IO. And I think before that I went to like a now non-existent, uh, Chicago beef place. It literally closed like a month later.
00:22:31
Tom Brown
Wonder why no one was, it was, it's up it was like right in Wrigleyville, busy bars all around at this place. Ghost town should have been assigned delicious sandwich. But that night with the bathroom door, maybe three feet from her head, I unleashed hell.
00:22:49
Tom Brown
I don't know, my B-hole from that Chicago beef. it the This is where I think we get, oh, he beefed it really bad. Yeah, like yeah that thats that's where that saying is from.
00:23:02
Tom Brown
It's got to be because I could, I mean, it was normally your own brand isn't that bad. This was like i' been piling up. Why won't it stop?
00:23:14
Tom Brown
Why won't it stop?
00:23:17
Tom Brown
It was just so... And, like, Amelia was like, it wasn't that, like, that week I found a new spot, but it was, like, two, three weeks later, like, hey, I don't know if this is working out.
00:23:27
Tom Brown
I found an apartment across the street, ah studio going to live in on my
Aspirations and Future Plans in Comedy
00:23:31
Tom Brown
own. Sorry. Yeah.
00:23:35
Larry
Yeah, this is for the best.
00:23:36
Tom Brown
Yeah, and your boyfriend doesn't like this arrangement either, and I agree with him.
00:23:42
Tom Brown
Yeah. He's giving me dirty looks like, dude, that's not where it's going. I mean, who knows where it's going, but that's not happening. I made sure of it what first weekend and that it ain't gonna happen.
00:23:54
Larry
Yeah. i um I insured by ah by eating some some beef.
00:23:59
Larry
there stuff Oh my God.
00:24:00
Tom Brown
Yeah. Cheers. Oh, man. it was It was bad. It was epically bad.
00:24:07
Larry
So talking about places, I look, I love our new apartment, right? I love this place.
00:24:13
Larry
Uh, we fell in love with it when we saw it online. We just, the location's great, but I can't stop looking at, at other places.
00:24:22
Larry
And as, and and you and you get it, you rent, you're, you're renting now.
00:24:23
Tom Brown
Oh, you never will. yeah
00:24:27
Tom Brown
Yeah. i ryan and and also I'm also looking to maybe buy.
00:24:30
Tom Brown
the so I'm on Zillow constantly. Constantly.
00:24:32
Larry
Oh yeah. but i And we know, like we can't afford to buy anything in our own neighborhood.
00:24:38
Larry
Like we we can rent and we're fine, but we can't buy anything in this.
00:24:43
Tom Brown
Oh, you're by your neighborhood. You mean Chicago in general.
00:24:49
Larry
Although there, I did find like two condos that were downtown that I was like, I think we can pull this off. And Nicole's like,
00:24:59
Larry
it's it's a studio it's a studio except but It's a fancy studio with big spaces
00:25:04
Tom Brown
so i have not limited a studio apartment with you larry we've we it's like a i understand that is a bridge too far for her or anyone else i could like jen and i love each other we need a little bit of space every once in a while because we have different interests different things we want to do we can't do that in the same room
00:25:21
Larry
well Here's the thing, though. This place was called a studio, but it was actually broken up and into enough. like It had like a little maze into it, and then it had like a loft for for offices.
00:25:35
Larry
and But there were like two bedrooms and two bathrooms. And I was like, this could work.
00:25:40
Larry
this would be And then she was like, yeah, but do you want to take Zoe out at midnight? Yeah.
00:25:47
Larry
ah like all the way down. And she's like, they wouldn't let us, and even if we were purchasing the condo that is that they wouldn't, they are they're not going to let her.
00:25:57
Larry
She's seven, you know, 65 pounds, 70 pounds. and they're going to be like, it's, oh,
00:26:01
Tom Brown
of of sweetheart, a pure sweetheart.
00:26:02
Larry
Yeah, but like but like, that's the thing.
00:26:05
Larry
For us, in our minds, I'm like, she is a small dog. Like, like oh, small dogs only.
00:26:10
Larry
She is small because compared to all the dogs I've ever had in my life, they've all been 100 pounds, 90 pounds.
00:26:17
Tom Brown
Yeah. even Even my dog, Frosty, that's like 40, 45 pounds, is considered a big dog in some places.
00:26:23
Larry
Yeah, yeah, and I'm like, that's not right.
00:26:24
Tom Brown
Like, yeah. Yeah.
00:26:28
Tom Brown
No, what you want is a cat.
00:26:32
Larry
You want me to have a cat?
00:26:33
Tom Brown
Yeah, basically.
00:26:35
Tom Brown
um And that's just not the thing.
00:26:36
Larry
But i can't I can't stop that instinct of, great, we're renting now, but we really got to find some place to buy. And i'm like, no. No. Because here's the thing. Since we've been here, the stove broke.
00:26:49
Tom Brown
You didn't have to pay for it.
00:26:51
Larry
Yep. We just put in on the app, put in a maintenance request.
00:26:55
Larry
Bing. oh We woke up one day. the So we thought the pipes had frozen had blown our are ah washer, ah like the the hose off.
00:27:10
Larry
It turns out that there was a component inside the washer that broke that then backfed to the wall and it forced itself, like it blew itself off.
00:27:22
Larry
But we still woke up to like a water feature.
00:27:24
Tom Brown
oh yeah that's not great yeah well
00:27:24
Larry
um But turned off the water, made a maintenance request, didn't have to pay for a new washer, didn't have to pay for the...
00:27:32
Larry
And we're like, all right, this is pretty okay. Because like a ship breaks...
00:27:35
Tom Brown
Yeah. If that happened, it was a home new own you own, you'd be fucked.
00:27:39
Larry
Yeah. Oh, and I'd be furious because, I mean, did I clean up all the water myself? Of course. I'm going wait for a maintenance guy.
00:27:45
Tom Brown
Yeah, no. Oh, as a guy who works in property management, thank you. Thank you.
00:27:49
Larry
Yeah, absolutely. You know, i this is, i like i I still take pride in the place I live. I don't want any damage done to it, you know, cause because also we but we've looked at it and we're like, man,
00:27:58
Tom Brown
Yeah, no, of course not. Yeah.
00:28:05
Larry
Honestly, if they would be willing to parse this out, we'd buy our section as like as a condo.
00:28:11
Larry
We'd buy our section of the basement and we'd just stay here. But anyway, you know, it was just, it's been these, these things that like, oh man, it be nice to own again.
00:28:22
Larry
But then shit breaks and we're like, yep.
00:28:23
Tom Brown
Yeah. the the the Yeah. The reality hits of that, why that sucks.
00:28:27
Larry
And we're like, ah, you fix it, Christine.
00:28:28
Tom Brown
Yeah. Yeah. At least, at least what you did was sold your house before you moved. I didn't have the, up we haven't, we still own our house down there.
00:28:40
Larry
Yeah, but then you don't have to, if you go visit, you don't have to pay for...
00:28:43
Tom Brown
It's true. I don't have to stay with any sort of ah in-law type person, which is awesome.
00:28:50
Tom Brown
Love them in moderation.
00:28:52
Larry
Yeah, we actually – it's funny. So ah we're going to drop in names just real quick. Ryan Thorson of Springfield scene, Springfield, Illinois scene, got a hold of me, and he was like, hey, buddy, I know you just moved up there, but we're doing a show –
00:29:10
Larry
for um a ah place It's just a tap house called Terra Ferment, which I love the name. It's a cool little place, but I guess they've turned the basement into like a showroom where they're doing like music and stuff.
00:29:19
Tom Brown
Good written name Oh cool Yeah
00:29:25
Larry
and so Their anniversary is ah her anniversary on March 1st. He was like, hey, um I want to... like make this a good show would you come down and do this show with us he goes i can give you very little money um but i can also make sure that you probably get a beer how about that i was like oh you've sold me so we're gonna go down we're gonna go down and and just now we're like oh we could stay with friends then we're like no no we're gonna get a hotel downtown
00:30:00
Tom Brown
Yeah Yeah Right Yeah Oh fun
00:30:01
Larry
so that we can just walk everywhere. um because my old stomping grounds, Buzz Bomb, where I was, but where I ran that show and then gave it over to Ryan, um, they're having their seventh anniversary party that night as well.
00:30:17
Tom Brown
Perfect. Perfect timing.
00:30:19
Larry
So if anyone was listening, um,
00:30:20
Tom Brown
And yeah, March 1st, downtown Springfield is the place to be. Yeah.
00:30:24
Larry
the play, I'm going to be,
00:30:27
Larry
um But yeah, there I guess there are going to be like two bands up first and then some comedy and then a couple more bands at Terra Ferment. So that's good.
00:30:37
Larry
But I'm want like, oh man, I'm going back so quick. But then I'm like, it's not really that fast. it's Like it's a few months. It's a few months.
00:30:45
Tom Brown
yeah ah Yeah. Hey, at least they're inviting you back. See, I haven't got a single call from anyone from Louis. Hey, when are you going to be back? I'd like to get you on a show. but Not a Pete. No one.
00:30:55
Larry
Well, That's St. Louis. um
00:31:00
Tom Brown
this but It's funny. It's like I'll probably mostly have St. Louis comics on as guests because that's who I know. And like Pete, you know, my friends and stuff who I want to catch it. But obviously, I just want to catch up with people. It's been so long.
00:31:11
Tom Brown
um But it's like, so why haven't you had me back?
00:31:17
Tom Brown
I can make the time.
00:31:22
Larry
I've got a place to stay.
00:31:23
Tom Brown
Yeah, yeah i've literally I've literally been back ah kind of twice. Like, right off the bat, i we had plane tickets for Vegas already, like, the week after I left. Or two weeks after I started the new job, and I took a vacation.
00:31:39
Tom Brown
But, like, this gets around to St.
00:31:40
Tom Brown
Louis, so I'm like, gotta drive to St. Louis.
00:31:43
Larry
Oh, that's funny. Yeah.
00:31:44
Tom Brown
Yeah. And then, flew to Vegas... Spent a week there, then flew We barely spent an hour and a half in St. Louis before we got everything in back in the car, like, we're out.
00:31:54
Tom Brown
And then ah Thanksgiving. And literally, like, got in, like, 8 o'clock, 9 p.m., the night before Thanksgiving. had a then brine of turkey.
00:32:07
Tom Brown
ah ah And then Thanksgiving, we were there Friday. Friday. Didn't even really do much. Went to see like the the botanical garden lights stuff.
00:32:18
Tom Brown
And then Saturday morning, peaced out.
00:32:22
Tom Brown
Yeah. and that's I haven't been back since. Jen keeps going back. She still has like her doctors and stuff there and family. i have... I own... I have property.
00:32:35
Larry
She has family, I have property. And that is the that's the story of America, of the the American married couple.
00:32:43
Tom Brown
Yes, pretty much. um
00:32:45
Larry
She has family, I have property, and together i i paid three goats a chicken.
00:32:47
Tom Brown
Yeah. She has a property.
00:32:52
Tom Brown
It's how America will be again pretty soon, unfortunately.
00:32:52
Larry
She's one of the same.
00:32:58
Tom Brown
We're all doomed. ah
00:33:01
Larry
Let's not get bummers. Sure.
00:33:04
Tom Brown
yeah there's There's at least one question I want to ask to every guest ah on this show. And just to kind of reference, it's because all these really popular comedy podcasts, they always delve into conspiracy theory, right?
00:33:18
Tom Brown
I'm not a big conspiracy theory guy, but i want to talk about a little bit.
00:33:22
Tom Brown
And I want to know, and you can take this however you want, what is your favorite conspiracy theory?
00:33:33
Tom Brown
You riff a little bit, pop some words out there. You can think out loud.
00:33:36
Larry
Oh, sorry, sorry. You know, you you know, but you know me in conspiracy theories. I, my, I, I've got a, I'm a real whimsical fella.
00:33:45
Larry
And so like, I, I am, I'm a very whims, I'm a whimsy boy.
00:33:46
Tom Brown
You're full of whimsy. You're full of whimsy.
00:33:50
Larry
And, uh, which is what my dad was always afraid of that I would turn out to be.
00:33:55
Larry
He's one of them, one of them whimsy boys.
00:33:56
Tom Brown
Wrong son died.
00:33:59
Larry
Um, ah Look, i I... My favorite conspiracy theory...
00:34:07
Tom Brown
Or one that just really, my favorite, I mean the one that infuriates you the most.
00:34:07
Larry
i know... look. look
00:34:12
Larry
Oh, the one and that infuriates me the most ah is is that we never landed on the moon.
00:34:19
Tom Brown
oh that' Oh, that drives me insane. Yeah.
00:34:22
Larry
Although, there are points where I watch that video and I'm like, I see what... And that's what drives me insane.
00:34:28
Tom Brown
yeah because it they Let me show you to put a little bit of like a little bit of plausible, to die but or you know was it whatever the OJ got off on.
00:34:37
Tom Brown
ah of that little pull sprinle little oj in that and then yes i guess Oh, um, maybe Chewbacca shouldn't, that doesn't make sense. He was on Endor. Um, and then, uh, but like the thing, here's the thing.
00:34:48
Larry
but Right. um But here's...
00:34:52
Tom Brown
It would have like, yes, go, but like, well, you know, 2001, a space odyssey came out before that looked really real. Like go back and watch it. It don't, it looks great in 1968.
00:35:05
Tom Brown
But compared to literally anything, it looks fake as hell. It's where you can see the wires at one point.
00:35:11
Tom Brown
Um, But, like, it would have cost more money to fake the moon landing in 1969 than to do a moon landing.
00:35:20
Tom Brown
All you need is a rocket, some Nazis, it in like and a dream.
00:35:25
Larry
yeah I mean, isn't that pretty much a project paperclip anyway?
00:35:28
Tom Brown
Yes, it's exactly that.
00:35:29
Tom Brown
that Exactly that, yes.
00:35:30
Larry
Yeah. But here's my favorite one. the what And my favorite conspiracy theory that makes me go, because there's times where I'm like, yep, I think that think it might be right.
00:35:41
Larry
And then I hate myself for thinking that it might be right. That we are living in a simulation.
00:35:46
Tom Brown
Oh, yeah. It's like, oh, I hope they don't like hit the reset button in accident.
00:35:48
Larry
The simulation one.
00:35:52
Tom Brown
Or maybe I hope they hit the reset button in accident. And this just loops. This just is a sad, awful, oh, God, it's going to loop.
00:36:00
Tom Brown
Oh, fuck. i'm an i'm go I'm in a loop right now, and that's not great. Oh, this gets to continue over and over again?
00:36:08
Tom Brown
I don't know about that. ah
00:36:10
Larry
I don't know. Like, I feel like, you know, whatever whatever kid is controlling my sim has empathy on the same level I do. And so he's like, well, there's a million times I could have let this guy die.
00:36:22
Tom Brown
Yeah. Ooh, this Trump thing is really interesting.
00:36:25
Tom Brown
let's watch this play out.
00:36:26
Larry
yeah Yeah. Oh, look, ah he's developed a penchant for drinking, my little my little Sim.
00:36:32
Tom Brown
I'll see what happens there.
00:36:32
Larry
Let's just see. does he Will he drown in the pool? Nope, he didn't drown in the pool somehow.
00:36:35
Tom Brown
Yeah. Yeah. Shit himself again. That's kind of interesting.
00:36:39
Larry
All right. Well, that's cute.
00:36:43
Tom Brown
At least he can't smell that through the computer screen.
00:36:43
Larry
yeah that's it But his little Sim wife sure can.
00:36:49
Tom Brown
Oh, man. Oh, the Sim wife just left. Again. oh man. How many of these is in the... It's
00:36:55
Larry
We'll just get him one that looks like her. he won't even notice the difference.
00:37:00
Tom Brown
a doppelganger, yeah.
00:37:00
Larry
He's drunk. But yeah, that's the one that really like, like I'll be like, oh, that's such a stupid thing. Life is life and life is, you know, I know it's hard hard guys, but life is ultimately beautiful.
00:37:12
Larry
Have you ever seen a hummingbird? I mean, that shit is amazing. And sometimes they come back because they know you're going to feed them. And then like, I'll see like the same cat that like, you know, just like the matrix, I'll see it reload.
00:37:25
Larry
And I'm like, that's not fuck me or something.
00:37:27
Tom Brown
Yeah. If you look deep into the molecules of the hummingbird, you can see it's like little universes inside there. Maybe there's a little tiny universe inside this here. There's like people inside, ah inside and inside, inside, inside. It
00:37:39
Larry
That, see, I like, ooh, like the ah the whole world, like in Men in Black, the whole world inside of a locker, yeah.
00:37:43
Tom Brown
just keeps getting smaller and smaller and smaller and smaller. We're just, we're an atom. Yeah, yeah, we're, we're, yeah, we're living in some dude's balls right now.
00:37:56
Larry
It's the closest I've ever been to my father.
00:37:57
Tom Brown
This is a change of verse. Yeah.
00:38:00
Larry
It's the last time my dad gave me a hug.
00:38:06
Larry
that's actually So ah we were down for ah my parents' anniversary party.
00:38:11
Larry
My dad and my stepmom's anniversary party. ah My parents. My stepmom and I are close.
00:38:17
Larry
she's um And dad was dancing with Nicole. Nicole, for anyone that doesn't know, is my wife.
00:38:24
Larry
um And so they're having a good time. And I was just like, yeah, let them have a good time. And then he looks at me and he's like, are you not going to cut in? And I was like, why? You want a two-step with me?
00:38:35
Larry
And he was like, that's not what I meant.
00:38:38
Larry
And your wife, you should be. And I was like, whoa, don't get up my ass. You guys were having fun.
00:38:45
Larry
And he then puffed.
00:38:47
Tom Brown
I don't want pay your wife, son!
00:38:50
Larry
He puffs up, and I'm just like, what are are we are we wrestling in the gravel?
00:38:54
Larry
What are we doing, old man?
00:38:55
Larry
And then like like everyone got real quiet.
00:39:00
Larry
included including my little sister. And then like a dude runs up and he's like, Hey, Hey, just to cure, like kill the tension. He's like, Hey, you two hug each other.
00:39:09
Larry
And I smacked his hand away. I was like, this man and I have not hugged each other for over a decade. We're not starting now in front of everybody.
00:39:15
Tom Brown
Right now. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We're
00:39:17
Larry
And then he, my dad looked at and he goes, come on. I was like, I ain't doing it. And he's like, it was like that scene in stepbrothers where they just kept,
00:39:23
Tom Brown
not gay, though. We're not gay for each other.
00:39:27
Larry
But we did it. We hugged and then pushed each other away.
00:39:29
Larry
We're like, all right, good enough. Everybody happy? Leave us alone.
00:39:35
Tom Brown
Not gay. so stu dad i came for each other i can
00:39:40
Larry
And it's funny. I am the, I'm like, nope, I don't need a hug from my dad, but I hugged the shit out of my kids. Like all of my kids.
00:39:46
Larry
I'm like, hugs, more.
00:39:48
Larry
And I think that's the problem.
00:39:49
Tom Brown
like I probably hugged you more than you hugged your dad.
00:39:54
Tom Brown
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
00:39:54
Larry
100%. Yeah. Especially in the past decade. You and I have hugged more in the past decade than my dad and I have hugged.
00:39:56
Tom Brown
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And those are good hugs, too.
00:40:00
Larry
Um, well, I try, you know, I try, i try.
00:40:00
Tom Brown
Those are some really good fucking hugs. Yeah. Yeah.
00:40:05
Larry
And I, I, and I appreciate your hugs too. Like it's like, i can, you're just tall enough that I can just lean in and just be like, yeah,
00:40:12
Tom Brown
yeah this Yeah, that got weird. ah
00:40:16
Larry
but I think maybe you and I should have hugged her anyway.
00:40:19
Tom Brown
Yeah. yeah Yeah.
00:40:21
Tom Brown
This is how you do it, Dad.
00:40:27
Tom Brown
This is what male love looks like.
00:40:33
Tom Brown
are secure ourselves and hot lives.
00:40:38
Larry
just touch your face a little bit.
00:40:43
Larry
Oh, I'm never going to dance again.
00:40:46
Tom Brown
um I'll get some of my canned questions on this. ah who Who's like a comic or maybe comics you you saw before you did comedy? You're like, I want to do that.
00:41:03
Larry
um So, okay. ah Just a little bit of context. I ah was left alone a lot. And when ah when I...
00:41:12
Larry
I mean, we were. that Especially, you know, like at eight years old, it was like, well, you can stay alone.
00:41:18
Larry
ah Don't let us... Yeah, don't burn down the house and just ah don't let strangers in. So I was watching like MTV Half Hour Comedy Hour and ah Evening at the Improv and and ah stuff that probably at eight years old you shouldn't be watching.
00:41:18
Tom Brown
Yeah, you won't burn that mouse, probably.
00:41:39
Tom Brown
Oh, yeah. Oh, fuck.
00:41:40
Tom Brown
There was this one on, like, Showtime... i I still have only found a little bit of information on the internet, so I'm not sure if it was real or not. It was like Dom Herrera's super dirty comedy and like the intro to the comedy show. It was on Showtime and like naked girls with boobs bouncing on the camera and shit. like And then there was like stand-up comedy.
00:42:01
Larry
ah Okay, I want to do...
00:42:03
Tom Brown
Yeah. I was like, all right. Like you got me with the tits and then you got me with the brain, the brain, the footies.
00:42:11
Larry
Bouncing boobs and then the and then these bouncing boobs.
00:42:13
Tom Brown
Yeah. And then you get Dom Herrera.
00:42:15
Larry
Look at these. but but Look, you got boobs and then these boobs. Yeah, what...
00:42:20
Tom Brown
Yeah. Sorry. This triggered me to remember that weird show. Well, you're talking about, look that up.
00:42:25
Larry
yeah what some of the, yeah, look at, look at the boobs. Um, some of the first guys that I remember saying are like, uh, Larry Reeb.
00:42:36
Larry
Um, and like guys like Larry, even Bob j were on, uh, those types of shows. And then, um,
00:42:46
Tom Brown
ah It's called Full Frontal Comedy. Full Frontal Comedy.
00:42:48
Larry
full, for I remember that now.
00:42:51
Larry
Uh, so Larry, ree Bob J, but then like early Mark Maron,
00:42:57
Larry
Bob Nelson, you remember Bob Nelson?
00:43:00
Tom Brown
I feel like you know that name.
00:43:01
Larry
Bob Nelson did the did a lot of character work and he did like the the the college all-star, like here's your lineup for the college all-stars and he's like, and and now we go back it would be considered pretty offensive.
00:43:09
Tom Brown
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
00:43:15
Larry
But at the time, God, it was, yeah.
00:43:16
Tom Brown
Oh, yeah. It's fine. The Marin thing is funny because I remember, I watched a lot of those shows too and I specifically remember liking Marc Maron.
00:43:25
Tom Brown
And then like 2009, I met Marc Maron while I was bartending at the Blake Shore Theater in Chicago. It was double headline, like, it was a double headline set, him and Janine Garofalo.
00:43:37
Tom Brown
And I remember talking to him after the show and like,
00:43:39
Tom Brown
I think WTF was just about to start. So he was, he was like is really dark period of his career where like everything's fault. Everything's all the shit. He was really pissed off at the world, everything around him.
00:43:50
Tom Brown
like, yeah, I really, I used to love you on like, like Comedy Central. It's like, you know, like now you're fucking, and then he like called me out. Like, what you didn't like me. Like, yeah, I fucking did. What the fuck are you talking about?
00:44:00
Larry
Yeah, I did. well One of my favorite, one of first bits I remember him doing is the, one of the guys talking to themselves on the street as they're actually talking to God.
00:44:09
Tom Brown
Oh, yeah. That's a great one. Yeah.
00:44:11
Larry
Yeah. oh But like, ah then you had like, ah ah oh ah ah Doug, not Stanhope, but Doug Benson.
00:44:22
Tom Brown
Doug Benson. Oh, yeah.
00:44:23
Larry
Because he had, his closer was he would put the little mechanical birds on his glasses And they would peck at his eyes.
00:44:31
Larry
And it was like his impression of the birds. um But like, you know, Doug Benson and then we start. Who else?
00:44:40
Tom Brown
He had me blocked on Twitter when I still had Twitter. Yeah.
00:44:43
Tom Brown
Yeah. ah Total misunderstanding.
00:44:46
Tom Brown
It wasn't like I was like, hey, Doug Benson, you fucking douchebag. It was I was making fun of a friend of mine who misspelled his name. And it was ah and like, hey, to my friend, like, I don't know who this Doug, whatever, how he misspelled the name is, but I know who at Doug Benson is. And that guy is hilarious.
00:45:05
Tom Brown
And I wake up in this and the morning to a DM from him. Like, you follow me? You don't even know who I am? Blocked, all caps.
00:45:14
Larry
That is crazy. That is not the kind of behavior you, like chill behavior you would expect from pothead.
00:45:21
Tom Brown
You didn't even read the first part of it. like Obviously, I know who you are. like I didn't even say, I know who this guy is.
00:45:28
Larry
Well, then I, I take it back then. um No, I, who, ah oh, okay. So one of the, oh, and I don't know if he's problematic now or not.
00:45:28
Tom Brown
But he blocked me, so I couldn't even respond.
00:45:45
Larry
probably he's, well, but he was an old, he was an old Southern storyteller that my dad loved and introduced me to.
00:45:52
Tom Brown
Definitely problematic now, yes.
00:45:53
Larry
I'm sure he's probably like, but here's the thing.
00:45:56
Larry
Really? His, he's like, I've been back and listened some of his old material and his old stories and there's nothing like, anyway. ah But, but, you know, I'm like, I'm sure,
00:46:07
Tom Brown
Yeah. As a middle-aged white guy, I'm like, what was the problem with it?
00:46:13
Larry
It was, no, he would just tell stories about the hillbillies that he grew up with. His name was Jerry Clower.
00:46:19
Larry
And he was a storyteller. and would tell these just like, well, he did, hertaah ah but he was a storyteller.
00:46:28
Larry
And then get you know, get older. And it's like, I was, I was a big fan of Ron White. Yeah.
00:46:35
Tom Brown
Oh, yeah. Ron White was great. I can still listen to Ron White.
00:46:39
Tom Brown
I think he, like, although all those blue-collar comedy guys, that's, like, that's the guy i gravitate towards because he's fucking funny.
00:46:46
Tom Brown
And a lot of this stuff is kind of woke in a weird way.
00:46:49
Tom Brown
It really was. It was a very, he seems like a very accepting person. He just, you know, tells lot dirty, raunchy stories, and he's fantastic at it.
00:46:58
Larry
Yeah. And I mean, the joke about, you know, I'm not gay, but I let a gay guy suck my dick once.
00:47:04
Larry
And to the you know casual viewer, if they had walked into that bathroom, we'd have both seen gay.
00:47:12
Larry
but it was just him, not me.
00:47:15
Larry
I'm not, but he was.
00:47:17
Larry
And it's, it's, that, that is a very subversive way to, to also get around your audience.
00:47:20
Tom Brown
Oh, very, yeah.
00:47:25
Larry
Like for him to and to talk about, you know, ah when he was like a state, when he was in the, i think it was air force or Navy or whatever.
00:47:36
Tom Brown
Yeah, he's the Air Force guy, yeah. yeah
00:47:38
Larry
And he was stationed in Hawaii and he found out like you could get like ah a Beeger for five bucks.
00:47:44
Tom Brown
but Yeah, for like five bucks or so. Yeah.
00:47:47
Larry
And then he was, you know, how did I dodge the bullet? Cause it was all dudes down there. How did I not get my, you know?
00:47:53
Larry
And it was, it's this great way of just working, finding a way to make your core audience who would normally cringe at that and be like, Oh, what's going on?
00:48:01
Tom Brown
Yeah. it's it but And going, oh, there's a knee slap, and oh, Yeah.
00:48:09
Larry
and And, you know, some of them are not going to think any further about it than some are going to go, ah, and really, you know, hold on.
00:48:15
Tom Brown
Yeah, wait a second. get down It's funny because, like, that joke I did, you've heard my joke about, you know, the hunt the guy, you know, he gets all uptight about you wouldn't suck a guy's dick for $100 million. dollars And I say, like, yeah, yeah I would.
00:48:31
Tom Brown
ah i get Obviously, the joke's better than what I just said. But, you know, I always like i hear some, it's always like a kind of a country voice, like, hell yeah, man, I'd do that to you.
00:48:43
Tom Brown
$100 million, Jay.
00:48:44
Larry
ah $100 billion could solve a lot of problems.
00:48:47
Tom Brown
so Yeah, I'm not going to tell the button about a bar brag, but I'm just going show up in a really nice car one day and everyone's going
00:48:58
Tom Brown
know. Yeah. I'm going to get like a really nice pickup. That's all I'm going to say about that.
00:49:04
Tom Brown
It's going to get a Hemi and those dually tires. It's going to spin my...
00:49:11
Tom Brown
And no one's going to have to know that I would... Out a weenie.
00:49:16
Larry
do I got a spit or smaller anyway no no I'm not at that won't make a difference I just need to know what the customer likes
00:49:19
Tom Brown
Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
00:49:27
Larry
uh but so yeah but guys like like that and then of course as I got older it was like Patton Oswalt and and I don't care look I'm gonna say you know at the time Louis CK was I don't
00:49:35
Tom Brown
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh,
00:49:41
Tom Brown
ah you can say that all day long. yeah like Forget about the backstage stuff. We're talking about the art right now. We're talking about the art and what inspires
00:49:47
Larry
Yeah. At that time, before you find out that he's a creep, um you know, he was, some of his stuff was pretty innovative and the way he could do it.
00:49:58
Larry
And then, but like, um ah cat
00:50:00
Tom Brown
And get away with it. That's like that's the tea thing about like all these, like, there's cancel culture and they're shutting me down. like Dude, no. It's about getting away with it.
00:50:09
Tom Brown
but that's That's the art.
00:50:11
Tom Brown
It needs to get away with it. You just can't stand-up comedy isn't just going to say a bunch of really offensive shit and not having a repercussion for us. like it's so but It is about getting away with it, yes, but you have to be good enough to get away with it.
00:50:25
Tom Brown
Like, there's a... ah What's going on Chicago right now? There was, like, someone booked for, like, I think, Comedy Bar who was, like, she was, like, spotted a bunch of racist and Nazi shit um and it's been going around, so that's that's crazy.
00:50:39
Tom Brown
And, like, they knew... i think they knew that before. they They've unbooked her, but, like, They booked her in the first place. Did you not know who she uses the N word? Like, a lot, a lot.
00:50:49
Tom Brown
And she's super, you know, of white.
00:50:54
Larry
But I was going to throw sorry throw out a couple more names, which were ah like Kathleen Madigan, Laurie Cole Martin, and Jen Kirkman.
00:51:02
Larry
I watched Jen Kirkman's special... Was it... Right after? i was the It's been a while ago. But I was just like sitting there and I was like, this is who I want to be when I grow up.
00:51:15
Larry
She was... Her special was...
00:51:17
Larry
But then you know everything Kathleen Madigan does just cracks me up.
00:51:25
Larry
Her... ah and She just... kills me. It just, I love watching, I just love watching Kathleen.
00:51:29
Tom Brown
Do you know who started off at the same time as her in St. Louis?
00:51:37
Tom Brown
Joe the Animal.
00:51:37
Larry
Who? I was about to say Joe. it was either going to be joe Joe the animal or Jim the dad.
00:51:40
Tom Brown
yeah tell Yeah.
00:51:42
Tom Brown
Yeah. R.I.P. Jim the Dad. Yeah.
00:51:44
Larry
RIP Jim the dad. um And also Joe.
00:51:48
Larry
ah Joe, I miss you, dad. um but just Joe has always said that I look more like his son than his son does.
00:51:56
Tom Brown
Oh yeah Throw some glasses on you and Yeah Yeah yeah so Joe's great I love Joe He's is ease got a great great dark sense of humor It's ah fantastic
00:51:57
Larry
And when we stand next to each other, it is... It's weird. It's weird. Yeah, yeah. No, that's one of my... Joe loves when I do my impression of him.
00:52:09
Larry
um And especially...
00:52:16
Larry
yeah. yeah Joe's a great dude. i
00:52:20
Larry
i'm i'm um He's still alive. i just miss him because I've moved.
00:52:23
Tom Brown
Yes, he is very still alive. yeah i mean
00:52:26
Tom Brown
He's just held together with Bailing Wire and Hope at this point, but he's still alive.
00:52:31
Larry
Yeah. Yeah. He's, uh, he's, he's just, the he's just one of the toughest sons of bitches.
00:52:38
Tom Brown
Oh, yeah. Life keeps throwing him haymakers and he keeps taking it.
00:52:43
Larry
Well, speaking of that, I wouldn't want to take a haymaker from him.
00:52:46
Tom Brown
Oh, no, no. Even with the Parkinson's. No, definitely not.
00:52:50
Tom Brown
Yeah. He's built like a brick house.
00:52:50
Larry
That'd be like getting hit with a jackhammer.
00:52:52
Tom Brown
You already get hit multiple hits in the face. Yeah.
00:52:55
Tom Brown
It's a speed back.
00:52:56
Tom Brown
I only threw one punch. Like, it felt like 10.
00:52:59
Larry
<unk> It's not fair.
00:53:03
Larry
but So yeah, those were some like were some of my influences, of course.
00:53:10
Tom Brown
Yeah. um' I'm excited because we're going to see each other in person end of April.
00:53:15
Tom Brown
<unk>re We're doing a show up in Marquette, Michigan at Barrel and Beam.
00:53:19
Tom Brown
It's a cool little farmhouse-style ale brewery.
00:53:24
Larry
I am very, very excited for this.
00:53:26
Tom Brown
Yeah, same. Even if, like, three people show up, there'll be more than three. ah It's going to be fantastic.
00:53:32
Larry
Yeah. Yeah, well, um there'll be more. if We'll get more than three. We'll get.
00:53:36
Tom Brown
We'll get more than three.
00:53:38
Tom Brown
There's staff there.
00:53:39
Tom Brown
They have a staff that's way more than three people.
00:53:42
Larry
So we'll have eight. Great.
00:53:45
Tom Brown
It's all we need.
00:53:46
Tom Brown
And then we're like, we'll wrap the show early and we're going to get fucked up on the streets of Marquette. going to show you where I got drunk in college 21 years ago.
00:53:53
Larry
Excellent. That's really that's the only reason we're doing this show is so that we.
00:53:57
Tom Brown
Oh, pretty much.
00:53:59
Tom Brown
Hang out and make bad decisions and the birthplace of my bad decisions.
00:54:04
Larry
Yes. Yeah. I, uh, I've already told Nicole, you got, you got to come with, uh, mostly because, uh, I just need somebody to drive me home the next day where I can lay in the back seat and just, just sing sweet, low swing, low sweet chariot.
00:54:21
Tom Brown
Yeah. after After we end the podcast, let's just stick out for a second, talk to a little logistics, and then we'll you know call it a day.
00:54:26
Tom Brown
But um do you do you got anything else coming up that you want to plug? Because I'll probably put this out in a a couple days, if that.
00:54:34
Larry
Um, yeah, I mean, we've got, I've got stuff coming up. I, uh, look, um, ah but right now my, uh, my, my website is just like, Hey, stuff's coming, but it's busy and I can't update.
00:54:51
Larry
So I will, ah I'll be getting my, my website updated with, with dates. Cause I've got stuff, uh, got a bunch of stuff coming up. Um, And then hopefully we'll start building some stuff up here in the city because we're reaching.
00:55:05
Tom Brown
Yeah. He moved in for a reason, and it wasn't just as a new launch pad for the Midwest. You could have done that in Springfield.
00:55:13
Larry
Yeah. Yeah. This is. ah therere the Yeah. So we are hopefully some some Chicago and Chicago adjacent dates will be will be coming soon.
00:55:24
Larry
um It's just, you know, like I said, I took I took some time off. because Because, God, it's nice to be just a regular human.
00:55:33
Tom Brown
I've been proven for two seconds. so yeah
00:55:35
Tom Brown
think I took a little time off right after the St. Louis move, but then it was, I'm in Vegas and doing shows ah do some shows there, and then then I'm like immediately reaching out to everyone booking stuff, or that booking the open mics here, so.
00:55:50
Larry
Yeah. It just boggles my mind. Anyway. um but yeah, go to Larry Smith, comedy.com or my socials.
00:55:59
Larry
Uh, actually Larry Smith comedy.
00:56:03
Tom Brown
That's pretty much it. yeah
00:56:04
Larry
Uh, sorry. I'm just listening to my neighbors. I believe, Greco Roman wrestle. I believe that's what they're doing.
00:56:14
Larry
Um, That's the only explanation for that kind of noise.
00:56:19
Larry
ah But yeah, it's LarrySmoothComedy.com and that just links to all my socials and everything else.
00:56:24
Tom Brown
cool all right that's hey that's been what's that what's that about uh you just listen to myself tom brown and larry smith y'all have good day bye