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Scary Movie (2000) — Horror Parody Chaos & Slasher Comedy | Half Hour of Horror with Love Horror
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This episode of Half Hour of Horror with Love Horror takes a bloody detour into comedy with Scary Movie (2000), the outrageous horror parody that skewered slasher films, teen horror clichés, and pop culture at the turn of the millennium.
Directed by Keenen Ivory Wayans and written by the Wayans brothers, Scary Movie hilariously spoofs films like Scream, I Know What You Did Last Summer, The Blair Witch Project, and more, delivering crude laughs, chaotic set pieces, and one of the most recognisable Ghostface parodies in cinema history.
More than twenty years later, does this horror-comedy still hold up, or is it a relic of early 2000s humour?
In this episode you’ll get:
- A spoiler-filled synopsis of Scary Movie (2000).
- Honest horror movie discussion and review from the Love Horror team.
- Behind-the-scenes trivia and production facts.
- Discussion of the film’s impact on horror parody cinema and early 2000s comedy.
- Links to the slasher films and horror classics it spoofs.
- Our final verdict and horror rating out of 5.
If you’re a fan of horror comedy, slasher movies, parody films, or cult 2000s cinema, this episode is packed with laughs and nostalgia.
Presented by Love Horror — the UK’s home for horror reviews and features. Subscribe to Half Hour of Horror and rediscover horror cinema, one half hour at a time.
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Transcript
Introduction and Episode Tease
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Say what's up. What's up. What's What's up.
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Hello and welcome to Half Hour of Horror, the podcast that revisits the films you, or at least we, ah forgot in 30 minutes or thereabouts.
00:00:31
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um My name's Tom Atkinson and I'm joined by my good friend Alex Humphrey. Alex, say what's What's up? What's up? What's up?
00:00:45
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A little bit of a clue there as to what we're going to talk about this week. thought that was how you're open the whole thing, but no, it's good. long as we get to do it, I don't mind. How are you? How are you for this episode?
Setting the Stage for 'Scary Movie' Discussion
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I'm good. yeah, good. looking forward to It's been an interesting one. I think it's good for our, if you've been watching our podcast or listening to our podcast,
00:01:03
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I don't know which words you say. um but we've been doing some both both hopeful for yeah We've been doing some real bangers. We've been doing some five out fivers. And then there's been a couple that have been a bit like, oh, well, that wasn't a five out of five. That was a bit different. So we'll see what this one is. I mean, you know, we'll see what this one is. It's an interesting one to talk about. It's been more interesting to talk about. I think it' would be more interesting to talk about than we thought it would be to talk about.
00:01:27
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Yeah, I think so. There's a lot more to this than I thought there was going to be initially. And in fact, I've not even really decided on a school yet. So our discussion will hopefully draw that out. from So without wow without saying too much more, that's just going to make people at home who are listening who don't actually know what we're going to talk about yet. I'll i'll get into a bit of an intro to sort of bring it So before elevated horror, before prestige reboots, and before every studio tried to build its own cinematic universe, there was a film that looked at the entire horror genre and laughed directly in its face.
00:02:05
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Released in 2000. Me too. I like that. They should use that. Yeah. should you They should use that for this new one. What the hell are they doing? They didn't come why the hell didn't they? really upset. Yeah. and Released in 2000, Scary Movie arrived at the peak of the 90s slasher boom, taking aim at everything from Scream and I Know What You Did Last Summer to The Blair Witch Project and beyond.
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Crude, chaotic, wildly quotable and completely unapologetic, it became a cultural phenomenon that helped redefine parody movies. parody
Cultural Impact and Mixed Feelings
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movies for an entire generation. Paranormal? Are you going to say paranormal? Yeah, I think I was going to switch like automatically into that's why because I feel like I'm only ever talking about the paranormal. Directed by Keenan Ivory Williams, written by the Wayans brothers alongside Buddy Johnson and Phil Bowman. The film mixed horror with outrageous comedy in a way that hadn't really been seen before.
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Some critics hated it. Some audiences loved it. But whether you think it's genius satire or absolute trash cinema, there's no denying its impact on horror and comedy. So grab a ghost face mask. oh yeah Don't answer the phone.
00:03:15
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yeah And prepare for a killer dose of turn of the millennium nostalgia. Because today we're revisiting the film to ask that one very important question. Yep. What's up? What's I'm going to have to get more enthusiasm. Yours was way better than mine. Thank you. I'm wearing my Scream.
00:03:35
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what what Oh, yeah. wearing my Scream 7 t-shirt. Not my tribute, though. That's not my tribute. No. Yeah, because I suppose as we get through this, i mean, other than that there's a lot of connections with Scream as as yeah people that maybe don't know the film that well, we'll find out as we draw out those facts, maybe. Yeah.
00:03:54
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um you So every every time we do an episode, there's tributes. Is that one of your tributes? No, my tribute... a okay so because we Because this is it Scream, it's very, very heavily based on Scream. It's definitely the film. It underpins it, isn't it? Yeah, it's
Lego and Horror Tie-ins
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kind of funny as well. i brought i brought my little My little tribute is this...
00:04:14
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Getting up to the camera. Can you see him? is a It's a, yeah not official, but a Ghostface minifigure. That's so cool. Not an official Ghostface. It's like a Lego minifigure, but a Ghostface one. It's got a cape as well. Yeah, he's got the cape, he's got the hood, he's got a little knife there as well. So yeah, he's pretty good. I'd like to have him just like sat here throughout, but I'll have to have him sat next to me. Yeah.
00:04:39
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Is it worth pointing out now that Lego are probably missing a trick by not getting Scary Movie to do an officially licensed, goofy-faced Lego? I mean, this is a segue, but so back in the day when I was young, I was always like, oh, you Lego should do film tie-ins. like Lego should do, like even though I wasn't into sport, like they should do sports stuff. like oh And then they kind of, and with original Lego, so again, don't people may or may not, again...
00:05:07
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Weird segue. ah the The original Lego castle, the castle walls were yellow, not grey, because Lego didn't want to be any way associated with violence or anything at all. Like, they didn't make guns until... Yeah, I think the first guns were like the kind of really small, like the pirate ones. They looked like little muskets and stuff. They're not really guns. Yeah.
00:05:26
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Now, if you think about Lego now, they've completely abandoned that. They're just doing everything for the adult market as well. So you're just like, you know what, Lego? You can do horror figures. You could do these figures. i shouldn't I don't have to go get them from somewhere that isn't Lego.
00:05:39
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But, you know, I'm happy to have the ones I've got. I've got more than that. um But you know why not do it? You know what? You've kind of given up on it just being for kids. if It's for adults to do a whole. Yeah, they've done Ghostbusters Lego, right?
00:05:51
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Exactly. There's Ghostbusters Lego. Yeah, why not? What's that? Did that and end up being a 15 in the end? I don't know. Probably a 12 or something. Yeah, they did a Jaws one as well. I think that's technically PG. I don't know. Oh, in that case, then, yeah. Get it sorted, Lego. Totally do it.
00:06:08
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so Do some horror Lego.
Legacy and Analysis of 'Scary Movie'
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Do you have any other tributes, Alex? I don't have any more tributes. It's just one. Am I supposed have another one? But you always have at least two. Well, I was going to get my my ghost face mask, but I can't find it right now. So I can't. No, I've only got one. And my T-shirt, if that counts. I don't know. Well, I'm almost going for a triple because I've got cat that's got ghost face written on it.
00:06:32
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That is a lovely cat. Not a smiley ghost face, just, you know, as you know Scream franchise. Then second, I've got ye the copy of the film that i used to review Scary Movie.
00:06:47
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This is Scary Movie, what yeah Scary Movie 2 and Scary Movie 3, which is one of the films that the Wayans brothers weren't involved in. so And we'll get to that later on as well. and in fact Interesting. um Yeah, I'm sure we'll talk about that bit anyway. But um yeah, so I used this to review and it was yeah weirdly lost because I did have it on DVD and I'd lost it and I couldn't find it. So i had to get on Blu-ray. And the best thing about it was it had the deleted scenes on it, which are good, which I will definitely talk about later. yeah i do And then best of all, yep here's my favourite thing that I've got.
00:07:19
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what um what Although I'm not going put it on. What is it? Oh, what? Oh, that is amazing. It's a scary movie mask. It's the goofy ghost face it's proper goofy ghost face one. Oh, wow. With his tongue sticking out.
00:07:34
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Oh, I love it. So it's he's saying, what's up? So as seen in the film. I wanted to wear it, but it will really affect how I sound. And not only that, ghost face masks usually have quite good breathing holes. When I first tried this on, there's no breathing hole for the mouth and I nearly passed out. LAUGHTER Go around my house pranking mumps and my family and I wasn't getting enough oxygen. It's an official, it's not even like a dodgy dupe.
00:07:59
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It's not like an AliExpress knockoff. It's an official one. It's a proper one. Wow. Oxygen just obviously isn't a priority for people to wear this. You've won the tributes this episode by far. I had to make an extra effort. You always just kill it.
00:08:12
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No, it wasn't food related this time. So you... No, nothing to eat, my God. Although this time, yeah, probably would have been something odd, smoke, that would be probably more relevant. Yeah, we might get in trouble for that.
00:08:25
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Totally. So this film started out. ah we Are we ready? Are we going to start the timer? Hey, are ready? Pretty much, yeah. I was just wondering, one more little thing I was going to say was it started out with 19 million, the budget, and this film on its own made 278. See, that's mad, isn't see that um isn't it That's mad. And Marlon Wayans claims that it's a half a billion dollar franchise that it spawned.
00:08:52
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Really? Remember that. Wow. that Yeah. and we've got And there's a new one coming out, what, early June? So, you know, this yeah this was a prime time for us to talk about this. At time of speaking, yeah, that's not out yet.
Controversial Humor and Modern Perception
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so No? Yeah, so nearly a quarter of a century since, well, it is quarter of a century since the first film. Wow. That's mad. Pretty impressive. That's mad.
00:09:13
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There's a noise we're going to hear when the 30 minutes is Yes. What is that noise? Because obviously the objective of half hour of horror is we try and keep it in half an hour when we're talking about the film. Try is the operative word. Yeah. And I reckon you could be able to guess what the sound will be this time. Is it going to be the one I've already done? Have I already done what the sound is? on, have a go.
00:09:33
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Go on, you do it. What's
00:09:40
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So we're going to get what's up, what's up overkill by the end of this episode. Good. So listen out for that. And that's when we'll be stopping. So I'm going to start the timer. Take a sip your drink.
00:09:52
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Three, ready two, okay one. And we're going. Right, here's the synopsis, okay? You all know the plot of Scream, right? Well, it's that, i but with lots of jokes and also a bit of, i know what you did last summer thrown in.
00:10:05
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um So for the five people that don't know that plot, and you need a bit more than that, ah Anna Faris plays Cindy Campbell, a regular teen girl who spends her time hanging in with her boyfriend Bobby and his friends, played by Regina Hall, Shannon Elizabeth, Lachlan Munro, and Sean Waynes. After their classmate is brutally murdered by a horror movie-loving killer, the town turns into a media circus. But when Cindy gets a personal message from the ghost-masked murderer, she starts to think the psycho may be targeting her and her buddies because of a hit-and-run they covered up a few months previously.
00:10:37
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Also, there are lots and lots of gags going on. So, it really... i mean, the kind of thing about... this film is that it is and and this is one of those weird ones where I don't know if it's for better or for worse it is a very very good and true copy of Scream isn't it yeah fundamentally it really is I mean like the settings the characters character names some of the scenes kind of carbon copy some of the dialogue is either exactly the same or it's like alternate lines that were going to be i read it was alter alternate lines that were going to be in Scream that they put in this instead oh Wow. They were yeah like, yeah, even that far. So it's, it is, it's a straight up, it's a parody.
00:11:20
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And like I say, I say for better or for worse, because I think it's really good that it's, it does just cover scream and it covers scream so closely. but I think this type of parody film is better when it takes shots at like lots and lots of different things. And without kind of giving away, I mean, it, you know,
00:11:43
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We're not going to be really analyzing this that closely, I guess, is ah yeah because it is what it is. But we know without giving away my big opinion, my my ultimate opinion, I think it misses a bit of a trick in not taking on a few other a few pot shots a few other things.
00:11:58
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what do you reckon i mean because it sticks so closely to to to really deconstructing scream and parodying that i think it misses an opportunity to parody some of the 80s slashers which don't really get a mention and even some of those like say those 90s ones that were you know that it kind of exploded onto the scene at that period what do you think definitely yeah i think It's tricky because I was just the right age when I first saw this film. So I'd had seen Scream. I'd seen I Know What ah You Did Last Summer. And I was very much the target audience for this sort of comedy, I think. Yeah. So I understood all the references and things. Yeah. Yeah. And like you said, if you limit yourself to just a few films and you've got very specific references in there, but people have not seen one of the films, like if you've seen Scream but not, I know what you did last summer, a lot of this would just go over your head because it is very... And it's actually one of the things I do worry about a lot with the new film that's coming out is that from what I've seen, it has reference to lots of horror films that...
00:13:07
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on I wouldn't say quite as mainstream as the films that this one references. okay So they're more like niche. Things like Terrifier, for instance. Oh, okay. There's a couple of jokes about Terrifier in the new film.
00:13:19
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Wow. so ton So deep cuts for proper horror fans. Yeah. And this is the thing, like your average 15-year-old, you'd hope, wouldn't have seen Terrifier because it's definitely on the extreme end of horror.
00:13:30
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But yeah by having a comedy that has that sort of reference, it just might go over the head a bit. But that's always the problem with a parody, isn't it? Yeah, yeah. It's interesting. So I i read, i don't know if this was one of your facts, sorry to jump on it, but the actual film is, it was put together from ah the script. Hold on, where where is it? I'll write this down. The script is kind of an amalgamation of two scripts that they had. Mm-hmm. ah there was a script. It's got great names. The Waynes Brothers and Phil Bowman had written a script called Last Summer I Screamed because Halloween fell on Friday the 13th.
00:14:10
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Right. yeah And then Aaron Seltzer and Jason Freeberg had written a script called Scream If You Know What I Did Last Halloween. And those two were kind of put together. But the Marlon Wayans has said that the Aaron Seltzer and Jason Friedberg script, it wasn't really used. They didn't really use very much of that. was more of the other one that they used. um And I mean, yeah, I think, it you know, what people out there have got to remember is like exactly what you said. I mean, this is, you know, when this came out, we were in the kind of height of...
00:14:41
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height of these films had been a massive resurgence of these type of slasher films because of Scream um and there were loads of like versions of this coming out there was some really great stuff there was some really interesting stuff coming out there was some kind of Dull cash in things coming out. There was a lot of like trash B movies coming out as well. Ripping this off at the same time. And normally like, you know, in terms of like film studies, you know, all that kind of higher level rah-rah stuff.
00:15:11
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with a genre you get you get one innovator so there's the film that innovates that breaks the mold that starts something up which was scream although you know maybe it was friday the 13th new nightmare but we can we can go that way maybe on another podcast um and then you get tons and tons of copies um for better or for worse which repeat that and then the kind of what they normally say is the death of that genre in particular is the parody So a parody comes on and it kind of kills it because everything that was great is then sent up within this parody and everyone kind of goes, oh yeah, these these films are kind of played out, aren't they? Now what's weird is that this didn't... this didn't I don't think Scary Movie killed this genre. I think it carried on past this. And maybe it was because it just took it took Scream and it just went for Scream. But again, maybe that's something people need to remember is that Scream was such a big deal. It was so huge that...
00:16:04
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you know, taking a shot at Scream on its own is valid because it was such a big thing at the time, such a big phenomena that it kind of, it worked to just aim at that, you know. Definitely. that um And maybe Scream in itself was so such a slightly silly concept and a bit sort of, you know,
00:16:21
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We try not think about it now, but it was so out there that really lots of people watching that for the first time probably thought, oh, this is so stupid. You know, this could so easily become a comedy. yeah I mean, had you seen, um before you saw a Scary Movie, had you seen the Marlon, well, the Wayans Brothers
Parody Film Comparisons
00:16:40
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film, Don't Be a Minister Society, that one? and ah what i Did I see that one? Yeah, I think i did that Be a Minister Society When Drinking Gin and Juice in the Hood, I think it was called. So that was like taking the taking making fun of ghetto sort of movies. Yeah, that was that kind of that little 90s genre. Yeah, that one. And it a scene like I'm Gonna Get You Sucker as well, which is like a ah shot of like exploitation films. I mean, a lot of the like, you know, massive influence on scary movies like Airplane and Naked Gun, which was the Zucker films. And then even like Mel Brooks did a film called High Anxiety.
00:17:16
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which is basically like it takes the Mickey out of loads of Hitchcock films all together. It's really good. And then you see something like Spaceballs, which is, you know, that's just taking that Star Wars. That's just taking Star Wars and kind of ripping that apart. So, you know, Scary Movie didn't invent this.
00:17:31
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And it wasn't even like the first horror comedy, not really. But like it did do it very well. And, you know, so this is the the other side of talking about Scary Movie is...
00:17:43
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The comedy, as you say, the comedy in this, it was I had massive nostalgia for watching this. I was really looking forward to it. I'm really looking forward to the new one. when it's As soon as it started, even from the beginning, there are some jokes which just don't really work anymore. I mean, there's quite a lot of homophobia in it. there's I mean, the whole Marlon, is it Marlon Waynes' character, his hot the whole joke of his character is he says quite a lot of kind of kind of stuff that makes him sound like he's a homosexual and then spoilers. Oh, that's Sean Wayans. Sean Wayans' character. The whole joke is that he says all this stuff that makes him sound like he's gay. And in the end, yeah he's not gay. He's not gay, yeah. And although that's, I mean, you know, I don't want to be cancelled, but it's kind of, it's a funny joke in it in its way, but some of the stuff he says really isn't okay.
00:18:33
Speaker
You've got the, there's a whole scene which is extremely kind of transphobic with the PE teacher, Mrs. Mann. Oh, of course. Yeah. Which is really doesn't, I mean, that that's crazy quite like, kind of like, that's quite weird to watch now. There's quite a lot of like violence against women in it that, again, kind of feels kind of weird now in it. And a lot of the sex jokes, again, ah just feel a bit more aggressive rather than kind of funny. A lot of how Bobby and Cindy's relationship feels a bit kind of
00:19:06
Speaker
it's off key it's a bit like it doesn't feel like as funny as it should be it doesn't really it feels like more like she's not in on the joke as much as kind of no totally yeah she gets thrown about a lot doesn't she yeah sort like you know she's sort of she's sort of in an abusive relationship really yeah like today's standards and yeah so back then watching it you didn't think about that too much but now it's like really screams at you when you're watching it doesn't it Yeah. And then obviously the biggest, the biggest problem, probably the biggest problem, because he's the main character, is the Officer Doofy character, which is really kind of like, even though, like, again, spoilers, there's a twist to that, that it's it's an act. There's a kind of twist in the end of that. It's really not how it's played is not okay. So so a lot of watching this, I found it quite hard watching this because I remember finding it really funny. And then now I'm like, oh, I don't know how like, oh, this doesn't really feel as acceptable as it used to feel like. this It's kind of uncomfortable. Some of the humor in it is kind of feels uncomfortable. So that's a bit of a problem with it. I don't know.
00:20:10
Speaker
For me, it was like, it's almost like it's I felt three ways. So I was like going between three emotions throughout the whole film. One was like enjoying it, nostalgia and the bits that were still funny were funny. And I like to revisit it because i hadn't watched it for about at least 10 years, I think maybe. um Then there was the exactly what you're saying where I was like, this is like not...
00:20:36
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not acceptable anymore now and kind of thinking to myself how do we even talk about this on a podcast about coming across as one these people who uh just says oh it was okay back then um yeah and but it also did make me think a lot wow i wonder because i know they want to put any punches for new films that's made me think well how are they gonna go as far as and i know doofy's coming back so okay um is There's going to be, again, sort of a bit of controversy maybe. But then the third way I felt about it was, I think, going back to your point before about the whole trouble of making parodies, which was some of these references now, people coming straight to this, particularly if they're younger, they're just not going to get references at all. No, no, no. I mean, they may have seen may have seen, know it did last summer, but they won't have seen us Matrix references. Yeah, it's true. Usual Suspects.
00:21:29
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yeah Lots of stuff in there. So I was a bit like, oh, God, yeah, it's weird go back to it now. That's the kind of whole, the whole crux of it, I would say, is, so the whole Was Up thing that we've been doing, which I would say is the most famous scene probably from this film, that's based on a Budweiser Super Bowl advert that was huge at the
Evolving Comedy Standards
00:21:47
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time. Now, I think that there's probably, it didn't take that long for a whole generation, especially anyone outside of America who did it. Back then, you didn't watch Super Bowl adverts. You'd be lucky if you saw them. I think there's a whole generation of people who just think that was up thing is from scary movie. They don't think it's from anything else. So yeah, you're right. There's a lot of the references and I think that's where they miss a trick really. And I think that's what kind of, to me makes this not a classic is that I think actually it was an opportunity to take shots at loads of different horror films. And I think the jokes could have been a bit safer because you're parodying horror films. You don't need to have this kind of like,
00:22:24
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uncomfortable, sexual, anti-trans, homophobic, like, you know, anti, you know, um you didn't need all that when you could just take straight shots at the stupidness of, you know, of horror films. I mean, one of the, one of the, I think the, one of the funniest scenes, in fact, actually two of the funniest scenes with Shannon, Shannon Elizabeth, the one where she's at the teen pageant and she says she's going to do some acting. And she's watching her boyfriend get killed. And she's like, oh my God, no one's doing it. They're all like, oh man, she's so good. She's brilliant. Oh my God. Like that's really, that's really funny. And it's not offensive or rude. It's just a good joke. And then later on when she is killed, she does a whole version of that scene from, it's the, um oh God, it was the woman that was in Charmed. It's her whole scene when the killer's there and she's like, oh, what are you going to do to me? All this. It's like when she's mocking Ghostface from Scream, it's yeah it's that whole scene. But it goes yeah they take it to this ridiculous kind of gross, um gory extreme, which is really funny. Like it's genuinely funny. And I think in a way even like...
00:23:27
Speaker
You know, even the whole opening with Carmen Electra, although people might not know who Carmen Electra is, even that bits of that are quite like when they're when they're just taking, you know, when it's when it is just doing scary movie, I think it actually does. It was just doing scream. Sorry. When scary movies just doing scream, it is kind of funny. There's bits of it was funny. Well, like when they do the... um I know what you did last summer and they've run the bloke over and they're discussing how to get rid of the body. And the man's just standing there saying like, I'm fine. I'm okay now. if You don't need to do anything. I'm all right. Thanks. Like that. Yeah. Stuff like that. It is the, ridiculous like you say, it's the ridiculousness of these films, the kind of the teen element that was kind of silly. Um, and you know, you know, and slasher films are silly. Like they are just people in masks wandering around and the kills are ridiculous and gory. And you've got, there's a lot that they could have worked with and made funny, without having to go down these kind of more controversial controversial lines. And I think, you know, yeah, you're right.
00:24:27
Speaker
Homophobia and all that, like a lot of the jokes that that landed and were okay back then are not okay now. But that doesn't mean that they were okay. I mean, were okay because they were in the mainstream. It doesn't mean they were okay. I mean, it's still not. They weren't okay. It wasn't acceptable. There were still a lot of people out there who were offended by this. It's just that there was more. It was said, wasn't it then? Whereas now it's very much kind of clear that that's not okay to say those things. Yeah, it was just there was insensitivity back then.
00:24:56
Speaker
the the the that There isn't now. And, you know, I don't think that's just beat that's us being woke or that's us being like
Wayans Brothers and Parody Challenges
00:25:03
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over the top. I think it's just that people weren't being, you know, people's feelings weren't being respected. It's not that funny. You know, like you can you can be cleverer, more clever about it. You don't need to take such cheap, easy shots at certain communities like that they do in this. They could have done better jokes, basically. Okay. I think as well, because if if you think about it, like when you see ah the Wayans brothers talking about the new film, they've aged quite well, you know, like they don't look too different. And it's very easy to think, oh, God, you know, um he was just saying this and, you know, he shouldn't be, you know, that's not okay. But if you put it in 80s terms, it's like a film from, it's almost like the difference with Back to the Future when he actually goes back in time. It's like it's like an 80s film being, you know, but ah
00:25:55
Speaker
what was best way putting it it's basically yeah a film from 1955 yeah being having a sequel in the difference in values and culture oh yeah that's that's which would have been even bigger I think especially in America talking Talking of Marlon Wayans, I just want to people don't know you know, Wayans Brothers, they were big. They did a load of films together. But I just want to read this. I'm going read three films that he's been in, right? And this to me is one of the maddest, even just these three films, ah that one person has been in these three films in their career is mad to me.
00:26:30
Speaker
So White Chicks, which if you don't know, it's a film where the Wayans Brothers do white face and pretend to be vapid like American teen girls. Also another film that probably wouldn't get made now.
00:26:43
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No. ah G.I. Joe Rise of Cobra, which is ah an action film based on a toy from the 80s. And then Requiem for a Dream, which is possibly one of the most upsetting, disturbing films about drug abuse that has ever made. And he's in all three of those films. What weird career to have been in all three of those films. Yeah.
00:27:04
Speaker
like I know he's not famous for... He's more famous for just his comedy, but you know that's pretty mad, isn't it? um and i doubt i mean took ah I think Anna Faris is really good in this. I really like her. she's she was This is her first film. I think she's one of the few things that saves the film um from a lot of the more uncomfortable bits is that she's just got this kind of...
00:27:26
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weird, this kind of like wide-eyed, innocent kind of like, stuff she doesn't really know what's going on. And I think it works really well within this, around the stuff that's more uncomfortable and not like, you know, you're kind of like, oh, she's the kind of constant through the film that is still funny and she's experiencing it all And you kind of like, I don du't know, like she...
00:27:49
Speaker
I'd forgotten how good she is in it. And then it's good that she had a career after this. She's been in quite a few things. I still, I still think she's really good. I think she's great. I think, um is it, is it Regina Hall? Yeah, Regina Hall is Brenda.
00:28:02
Speaker
yeah Yeah, she's really good. And I think the Shakespeare in Love, the cinema scene where she's just talking for all the films and yeah like they end up, all the people in the cinema end up murdering her. I think that's a really funny scene. I think that works really well. I think that's a kind of a caricature of a certain type of person in ah in a cinema. I don't think it's offensive. I'm sorry if it is offensive, that scene. Yeah. I think it's just offensive to people who are dicks in the cinema. um But um I'm surprised that those cinemas have got that as like their advert version of that because it is kind of like a it's like a perfect... Yeah, well, just turn off your phone and shut up, basically. But yeah, I think i think that they're very funny. I think that um i think that the shorty character, which I probably found funny originally, is just not funny anymore.
00:28:46
Speaker
I don't think hes he he's just not any good, is he? He's just more annoying than funny. He sort of didn't feature in it as much as I remembered. No. Which is weird because I remembered him being a sort of bigger character in my mind. I think he features more in the second one or something. because Yeah, probably. He definitely became more of a kind of presence. Yeah. yeah And this one is quite low key, isn't he? just just found him kind of annoying.
00:29:08
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Yeah, i just didn't really like him. I found him kind of annoying and he just kind of wound me up a bit more. um but Yeah, it's... It's weird. i mean, nostalgia is a weird thing. You know, nostalgia kind of clouds your mind. And when you remember things, you think of them, you just remember all the positives about it. Like you say, you you kind of go back to that time and think, oh, yeah, I was, you know, that really made me laugh. they read All those jokes really worked. Like, you know, all those things are really important to me at that point. And it really worked it really spoke to me. But yeah, anyone watching this...
00:29:40
Speaker
I don't know, not even that far after, maybe five to ten years after it came out, how much of they going to get? How much of it is going to work for them? You know, like, you know, and I i feel like the sequels took take shots at more different films. They're not as close to one film. I feel like the sequels are more like a bit of everything in them. They're not as limited.
00:30:04
Speaker
Yeah, they definitely didn't limit themselves to horror films as much. They probably they had a horror film underpinning them. Because like from from memory, I think it's like Scary Movie 3. It's got signs is the sort of main thing for it. But it's got elements of like 8 Mile and I think like Matrix Reloaded or one of the Matrix films and that. So there's lots of... So that they did come more movie parodies. And then yeah I guess that then paved the way to the other ones that were then movie parodies, like Not Another Teen Movie and Superhero Movie. man, there's so many of them. God, there's so many. That was a whole, that almost, that was like, yeah, epic movie, disaster movie, Not Another Teen Movie. There's a spot, there's a 300 one as well, I think. i love the one written A lot of them were written by the other two guys that wrote this or didn't write this. um And that's weird because it's almost like they became a genre of parody films that almost became, they were like, it was like a parody of themselves at that point. They were kind of, it was like, it was eating itself by being, there was a parody of parodies by there being so many of these films. It kind of, you know. it Totally. I don't know. And I think it's a shame actually.
00:31:13
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah, yeah. And also, i find it really odd that it's taken them this long to make another scary movie. I would have thought there was a period when, you know, when the reboot of Friday of the 13th was coming, when the reboot of Halloween, there was ah there's a period, twenty ten s I would say, roughly, I don't know, where they were rebooting all these things again. And that, to me, felt like a perfect time for them to have done another scary movie, to mock that they would go know all these films are kind of coming back that that were big or in the 80s or 90s that they're coming back again i serious thought i have a theory on that but it's all conjecture okay what is your objective as we know after the first two films the wayans brothers parted company with the franchise
00:32:00
Speaker
Oh. Reportedly. Reportedly it was because they'd been offered to write a third film. Yeah. After the massive success of the first two. it was Weinstein they were working with, you see. Okay. Right. and um apparently had written everything up, had been promised a bigger budget than previously and more money for them.
00:32:21
Speaker
yeah um And then last minute, Weinstein changed his mind, said, actually, you're only going to have this small amount of money, the same amount as the first film.
00:32:31
Speaker
Oh, what? To which they then said, forget you. We're not doing it for that small amount of money. yeah And then Weinstein somehow then took ownership of the franchise, took it away from the Wayans brothers so they couldn't be involved in it anymore. Yeah. And so they then weren't involved in it, didn't get any more money from it, from what I've heard. And that's why they were so upset. okay So you had the Wayans brothers been feeling feeling very raw about all that. So that must have taken a long time to heal over. You had all the Weinstein business happen. That's true. Maybe true what happened to Weinstein might have opened the door eventually to it because while they owned it. Maybe for getting it back, you mean.
00:33:12
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You know, like maybe him being out of the picture and in jail might have meant that they then had an avenue to reclaim their property. say And then the final thing, I suppose, is the whole um woke period that um sort of ah occurred towards the end of um the sort of 2020.
00:33:30
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2010s, sort of around the the early 2020s, so where I guess the the This Is Not Okay was even more sensitive than it probably would have been. I think it would have been impossible to make anywhere... you So you're saying that you think there can be... their commitment to the, to the stuff, the stuff that I, we're both saying we find uncomfortable and unacceptable. Yeah. The Waynes brothers commitment to that is so strong that they needed to wait till people felt a little less woke to then do it again, which see, that's a bit of a pity because that feels really like then ah that kind of confirms what I, I think you're right. And it kind of confirms what I'm saying, which makes it feel like a wasted opportunity because You've got whole the whole of horror here that you can parody. you've got You can take shots of so many. you know everyone you know Okay, everyone doesn't know Scream, but they probably know the Ghostface mask.
00:34:21
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Everyone kind of knows Halloween. Everyone knows Friday the 13th is a thing. Everyone knows Jaws. there's There's a lot of horror out there that people... It's pretty much in the public conscious that everyone
Future of Parody Films
00:34:31
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will know. Vampires. Twilight, you know, like um there's there's tons of things that have kind of gone above, popped up the parapet and gone into the mainstream, which they could have just been, if Scary Movie was just, it's a horror movie parody. That's all it is. We're not, it doesn't have to be controversial or edgy or like, you know, taking shots at these people who don't really, they don't need the hassle. They've got enough hate anyway. that That seems like a waste opportunity to me. Like it's a kind of real shame that they didn't.
00:34:59
Speaker
you know like yeah maybe i think you're probably right and you maybe they did have to wait till the period when they could make jokes that they really just couldn't make previously it does feel like it it does feel like it and i think even because obviously we're not seeing the new film yet but so we may we may be proved wrong but from that first trailer it looked like there was a lot of stuff that's more digs at societal things that are going on the moment rather than stuff specific to film so That's definitely the sort of thing five years ago probably wouldn't have even made it through. yeah And I don't know, that's that's a weird one as well because I think comedy, again, like horror, is a great genre to discuss society and to discuss kind you know difficult subjects that people can't really talk about you know straight up. So you use horror or you or you can use comedy to to tackle something heavy or kind of like upsetting and and really like really dig into it and get a better understanding. But...
00:35:53
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If all it is is just, oh, everyone's so woke. or Well, why can't we make jokes about women anymore? Why can't we make jokes about this anymore? like that's not i mean that's that's not That's kind of low level. That feels like... Yeah, it's the tricky thing. I think a lot of i think a lot of comedians now, a lot of people are arguing that the the reason there's not been a lot of very successful comedy films, like that sort of bombastic comedy, comedy that uh you know like kingpin um you know step brothers things like that i don't know that like it's been it feels like it's been a long time since there's been something that's really that successful and seen as being that funny and a lot of that is because people are worried about offending others um and there are now kind of lots comedians sort of coming out and trying to
00:36:43
Speaker
say, you know, comedy shouldn't be taken so seriously and it should almost be given like a free pass to sort of say what it wants to because comedy is comedy. And that's that's very much seems sort of Ricky Gervais' perspective. i think and i think my alone but Yeah, I think my disagreement with that would be that ultimately, again, if you compare horror and comedy,
00:37:07
Speaker
fundamentally we all have the same fears. we' fear We all are scared of death. We're all scared of the dark. We're all scared of, you know, like, well, did that's pretty much it. But a lot of us are scared of heights. A lot of us are scared of like, you know, yeah certain animals or disease or like, and then you go a bit further out to that. A lot people are scared of zombies. but yeah Fear is pretty basic and we've all but we all share that. We're all quite common with that. Comedy is immensely subjective. What people find funny, it varies so drastically. you can't really just have one thing that makes everyone laugh it just doesn't it doesn't work like that and you know in a weird way horror films are more unifying than comedy films are because we can all sit together and understand the fear of something and be like oh man that is that is horrifying Yeah, we can all get that.
00:37:55
Speaker
But if you sit in a in a cinema watching a comedy, like half people laugh, half people don't laugh. Like some people say it was terrible. Some people say it was rubbish. Some people were offended by it. Some people don't think it went far enough. It's so subjective. So, you know, i don't know. is this It is a hard one. But yeah, I just thought it's so polarized now that um it's impossible to make ah no holds barred, unapologetic film like Scary Movie without ah Well, ah what and make it a big commercial success. So you can make it, but it's just not going to do very well.
00:38:29
Speaker
yeah Maybe that is just the challenge, really. Yeah, well, i i mean, it makes me even more interested. Like say, I think I've kind of gone full circle from being really excited about the new one to them watching this and being a bit worried about it. And now being like, you know what No, I kind of am interested now. I want to know what they're going to do. Maybe, you know, are you right? And they were just waiting for this moment to make all these kind of really out there jokes that just, whoa, and be like, oh, okay, you need to go back to 2000 if you think that's going to land. Like, I don't know. Or maybe maybe they have got this. that Maybe they've got something massive to say that they needed to wait this long to say. I don't know. it's it i just thought it was a parody of horror films. like I was just like, man, there have been some horror films that could really have done with parodying. Like, there's been some really out there horror films that you could easily send up. I mean, like... Totally.
00:39:18
Speaker
and they've been And they've been big as well. You know, like, there's things that were big that... you know would have been so easy to parody them. Like, you know, i mean, this, you know, like this, we have a bit of Blair Witch in this. There's a, like a bit of, you know, they mentioned Candyman. Like they mentioned a few things. Like you said, there's a whole matrix. There's even a bit Crouching Tiger in it. Crouching Tiger in it. Sort running across the roof part. Yeah. Yeah. That kind of thing. Yeah. It's like, but like, ah yeah, I just think there's so many, you know, horror.
00:39:46
Speaker
i think horror has become more mainstream. You know, and there have been more films have crossed over and more, it's more out there, it's more in the public. And... What's up?
00:39:57
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What's
00:40:01
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Oh, we hit
Influences and Modern Challenges
00:40:02
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it. We hit the time. We did pretty well, though. We were kind of, you know, we got there, though. We did there. it. We did it. don't think we're far off. No. I didn't. Like say, we were more like just, it was into an open, free-flowing discussion. So it's good to have a was-up round us off. Yeah, which I think is fair on a film like this. Yeah. Because think it's more, this film, rather than analysing each the sort jokes. Hell no. I think it's more about the bigger questions of, yeah,
00:40:27
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yeah what why it was so good in its time and how it might translate into modern times for modern audiences. I tell you what's not funny, explaining jokes to people.
00:40:39
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Doing a big explanation of a joke is normally not very funny. this Yeah, yeah yeah that those a dozen of the ways that doesn't work either. But um but you got any was there any more, any facts that you had that you didn't throw in? Yeah, got a couple of facts actually, although did take one of mine.
00:40:53
Speaker
ah it was the name that it was the original working title of it which I loved and of course to add to that so it was scary movie um so it was first called last summer I screamed because Friday air fa fell on Halloween that's a great name And the reason it was called Scary Movie in the end was because that was the original working title of Scream, Kevin Williamson Scream. So that's yeah in case anyone listening didn't know that fact as well. Now, here's another fact, which I'm not sure you'll be aware of, because yeah you said something earlier, which made it sound as if you might not be.
00:41:30
Speaker
Around the same time as making this film, and I couldn't get to the bottom of which was actually her first film. If you look at her IMDb credits, it's actually before Scary Movie. Anna Faris was in another film, so it wasn't her film debut. Oh, I thought it was her debut. Oh. It's just whether or not, i I don't know which one came out first. like Okay, interesting. From my research, it said this film came out first, but and and then Scary Movie afterwards. But the first film, apparently, according to the my sources, yeah was a film, it was a teen slasher called Lovers Lane that Anna Faris starred in. and She had blonde hair. She was like a cheerleader.
00:42:11
Speaker
Yeah. And it was released in 99, 2000. Yeah. yeah that was That was the, whereas Scary Movie was, you know, later on in 2000. And it's, and you'll be really interested so you should at least check out the trailer because it's a really bad ripoff of I Know What You Did Last Summer, Scream. It has a guy who looks like the guy at a Dawson's Creek who pops up in Scary Movie in the window. Oh my God.
00:42:36
Speaker
Wow, that's so weird. The guy is dressed exactly like him and it's yeah really like a Scary Movie but like a serious take and it just rips off so many horror films. The killer's got a hook. wow and um it's a Valentine's Day massacre that it's to do with oh my god so it basically rips off a load of old horror films that was her film before well that is really weird that's crazy so another fun fact is that um apparently the global superstar singer alia went for the role of brenda and producers really wanted her to have the role and it was only later on that regina hall uh got the role and also alicia silverstone was apparently first wanted for the cindy role now she would have been good i don't know if alia would have been as funny i don't know if alia was good at comedy i'm not sure no i didn't see regina was really good romeo must die romeo's what's that film she's in with Jet Li? Romero Must Die it was she in yeah and The Queen of the Damned I think as well she was in both very serious she's not very good in that that's not going to on this podcast I can tell you that no I can't imagine she would have been very good at comedy yeah Regina Hall is really good she's really good in this and she's particularly good in Scary Movie 2 as well even though her character's killed well you think she's killed off in Scary Movie she returned in Scary Movie 2 yeah I mean they can do what they want really can't they
00:44:00
Speaker
Definitely. um what was i reallyilla la la Yeah, basically, I was also going to say it's not so much of a fun fact, but more if you can get rid of the, if you can get rid of, if you can get hold of the physical media. Oh, yeah. The DVD I did have, which... It had a load of deleted scenes on it that were really funny. Especially around Gail Hailstorm, who we haven't talked about. Yeah, she's barely That character's really not in it very much at all. No. Apart from to serve as how she is in Scream. It's just being that. Yeah. But...
00:44:41
Speaker
yeah But but um yeah, she's, ah yeah. and And thankfully it was also on this disc, the deleted scenes. So if you can see the delete deleted scenes, if you're into it, watch because they're really funny as well. I remember when I first watched the film, was like, they should have been in the film. It is was a real shame they were cut Yeah, that's funny.
00:44:59
Speaker
How about Love Horror Links, Al? Well, I've got a few. So, I mean, we we we spoke about Mel Brooks, but um Young Frankenstein, 1974, that's which directed by Mel Brooks, co-wrote by him and by the star Gene Wilder.
00:45:13
Speaker
um It's one of, it's a very early, ah ah one of the original kind of horror movie parodies. It's it's pretty much a complete parody, like how this is a a complete version of Scream. That is a complete version of the original Universal Frankenstein.
00:45:27
Speaker
It kind of set a template for a scary movie. It's still really funny. I think there's some probably off-key stuff in that that people will find offensive. um That movie was made in the 70s. It's even further back. So there's, you know, yeah again, we're not saying it's an excuse, but that's a very different time period, um um you know, for for comedy. Totally. Another one I picked out, one I like, is Freaky from 2020. Have you seen that?
00:45:50
Speaker
Oh, I've not seen it. That's the one with... yeah um ah who's What's his name? Vince Vaughn. I don't like Vince Vaughn. That's why I haven't seen Oh, you don't? Okay. Well, it's Christopher Landon who made Death Day and Happy Death Day to You, which I love. They're brilliant.
Personal Reflections and Lasting Appeal
00:46:07
Speaker
Really good. But it's basically Freaky Friday mixed with a slasher film where a teen girl played by Catherine Newton switches bodies with a middle-aged serial killer played by Vince Vaughn. And I think they both do really good turns as the opposites. And it is actually really funny. And it kind of sends up slasher films. And it's silly, but it's good fun silly. bit more serious. And again, another film that I absolutely love. I have a full review of it on the website with five stars. Behind the Mask, The Rise of Leslie Vernon from 2005. I remember you've always loved that.
00:46:40
Speaker
Oh, yeah. Set in a world where Freddy, Jason, Michael Myers, they're all real, basically. And this is a mockumentary where this ah where this kind of ah this camera crew are following this guy who is trying to set himself out to be the next big... kind of killer basically and it's really clever it really deconstructs the slasher genre um it's got great it's got some great bits in it it delivers on all fronts um yeah it's just like it's well worth it kind of people not that many people know about it as much not that popular but there should be a sequel coming of that apparently
00:47:14
Speaker
Really? that the idea they're trying to get a sequel going for that. Wow. Okay, well, that would be interesting. And my last one is a film that I know you love. ah This Is The End, 2013. course. Yeah, so that's basically... I mean, it it sounds... um from the review, which I think you wrote the review of it, but it the setup of it does sound terrible because it's basically a load of people playing themselves. You've got Jay Barcell, who people will recognize, but you might not know name, you recognize him. Seth Rogen. um You've got James Franco. yeah um You've got like tons and...
00:47:50
Speaker
Jonah Hill, loads and loads and loads of comedians from this period and from now. And they're all basically having this massive party. And then basically the end of the world happens and they've all got to like survive in this house. And it, it, it kind of, it it starts out and you think, oh, this is just going to be really obnoxious. And it's all just like people patting themselves on the back and like, oh, it's all just like a big kind of self-indulgent fest.
00:48:15
Speaker
um But it's actually not. It's really funny. They really send each other up. they really They're almost really good parodies of what you think those people are like. They do extreme parodies of what you think they're like. And it is quite good horror as well. There's some pretty mucked up stuff in there. It definitely pushes kind of the envelope in some of the horror bits. um And it's just like, it's just good fun.
00:48:37
Speaker
So if you want something that's kind of, I'd say that is the kind of near to scary movie in that it's you know, and the element of scary movie, if people like the kind of extremeness of scary movie, that side of the more controversial side, maybe go with this is the end. If you want something that sends up, you know, a horror parody, then you could go with Behind the Mask or Freaky or Young Frankenstein, you know, so it's kind of trying to give everyone a bit of everything there, a bit of a, totally yeah it just reminded me how much I love that film i love you do like that film a lot I went in not not wanting to like it at all not being particularly fond of like one or two of the people in it oh yeah definitely just came out thinking it was just so good Yeah, it's it's just yeah it's just good fun. is any any any money from Any from you? I've got a couple of links to put in there. They're ones I've mentioned already and actually they're both directly connected to Scary Movie, at least the first two films.
00:49:29
Speaker
Well, one of them is the second film. So I'd say Scary Movie 2 is equal to, if not... No, I'm not going to say better than the first one, but Scary Movie 2 has some really, really funny elements. haven't it for so long.
00:49:44
Speaker
Yeah. um it's It's got the opening with... I'm pretty sure... I'm just making sure it's definitely Scary Movie 2. Do you know what? I think I've gotten it mixed up with skip the opening of Scary Movie 3.
00:49:59
Speaker
No, no. haven't seen all of them for so long. No, no, no. It's definitely Scary Movie 2. Yeah.
00:50:05
Speaker
ah some Someone's going have to correct me here. It's that the ah the ring, the opening of the ring. and Okay, yeah, yeah. Brenda andin and Cindy are together. Actually, do you know what? I think that is Scary Movie 3 because I think she's the school teacher. I think I've got... Two is good. Two is the one that's but based on um the house on the Haunting. No, the Haunting, isn't it? They go to a haunted house and it's got the guy out of Schitt's Creek in it and he's got one small hand. That that will remind you that. Oh, yeah. Yeah, do remember that. Yeah.
00:50:37
Speaker
But yeah, so again, a bit a bit off key. But yeah, most of the scary movie films have got really iconic moments. But Scary Movie 2 is definitely worth checking out. The other one, which I did mention earlier, is Don't Be a Menace to Society When Drinking Gin and Juice in the Herd. Because if you've seen Boys in the Herd, ah Don't Be a Menace to Society. No,
00:50:58
Speaker
Menace to society. not Don't be a minister society. Juice. And all those kind of juice. All that had rappers in and things. like It just poked fun at all those films yeah and did it in a really clever way. And like back when i was watching these films, I found that even funnier than Scary Movie. Yeah.
00:51:20
Speaker
Definitely worth revisiting if you get the references to it. Yeah. So how would you score? Well, i but i think I think I'm going to have to say a two for this. So it's not going to be a five for me. i'd I'd say it was a two because I think I can't.
00:51:34
Speaker
i think he's I think it misses the opportunity to take on... i like a lot It's hard. I like that it just tackles us track or Scream and it does it such a good parody of Scream. But i then also think it should have taken a shot a lot of other films of that time period. I don't really know why it doesn't. And I do find some of it is kind of unwatchable now. It's it's quite difficult to watch some of it and enjoy it as as we did back then when we didn't know what we know now. we we weren't as... you know we just I don't know. um We're just older, you know, and your comedy does, your taste in comedy does change. And like you say, what what is okay and what is like, you know, what's successful, what's funny changes. So I found a lot of it hard.
00:52:15
Speaker
There were bits that still really made me laugh in Scary Movie, don't get me wrong. And I think it is, you know, it's got bits that are iconic and some good performances. But yeah, I just, I think it's it's going to be a two for me, unfortunately.
00:52:26
Speaker
What about you? That's all valid. I mean, for me, there's definitely bits that I had problems with. And I think, yeah, my score is so different now to what it would have been 20 years ago. Like it would have been right up there. It would have been, you know, like ah ah I loved this film when it first came out.
00:52:47
Speaker
um One thing I will say, good things, I think Anna Faris is absolutely amazing in it. like Yeah, definitely. Again, re-watching it, i was just like, she's so good. So many of the the actors, like it's quite early on in their careers and they went on to being quite a lot of stuff. and like So many of them are actually really good. yeah And even Shannon Elizabeth, who's just obviously...
00:53:06
Speaker
usually only really remembered for the American Pie movies in this. It feels like she's actually she's good thing it Yeah, yeah, she's very funny this as well, yeah. You even had like that that Lachlan Munro guy who you see yeah he was in few other films. Yeah, he's in loads stuff, yeah. He's really funny.
00:53:20
Speaker
um But yeah, really, Anna Faris for me, like just really nailed in it. and And I think, you know, you can see why she then went on to things. she was in She's been a lot of stuff, even Friends and stuff. So you can see why it led to a successful career for her.
00:53:35
Speaker
I think definitely how I would rate this right now today is very different to what I would have rated it. I still think given the quality, yeah the level of comedy in the funny scenes like the ones you mentioned, I think yeah they are really good. um The fact that the film is almost of the same cinematic aspect quality and production for the quality as scream was yeah that's true yeah um i think that gives it something i think i'd probably give it a three okay and maybe half of that's because it's got eminem rapping at the end that's going yeah yeah the songs at the end aren't that bad actually yeah i was all right with the songs yeah i was like oh these credits are pretty good
00:54:20
Speaker
Yeah, yeah it's like really full on like music. Like when you're in the cinema and it's just like, it's not comedy music. It's just like rap Eminem. But yeah, so I think probably three for me, but it's it would have got a four 20 years ago. Yeah, it's true. Yeah, yeah, no, definitely. i know it's time It's weird how times change and how you how things
Next Episode Tease and Farewell
00:54:42
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change. And especially, I do think, especially with come with comedies, I think... other films maybe the effects let it down or maybe like some of the sensibilities let it down that comedy really is a genre where you can suddenly you can love something and then watch it again and be like oh well i don't know i'm not sure about this i don't find this funny at all anymore and not just not just because it's because of the things we've said sometimes you just found certain things funny and then something happens within your life and you're like man i don't find that funny at all
00:55:08
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anymore So it does change. Your tastes do change. Yeah. But you can see, could like I say, I think we've, hopefully we've explained to people out there why it was such a big thing and why it does deserve to come back, to be back in the public eye again. Hopefully this new one will deliver. I'm looking forward to it now. Yeah. hope it does better than three stars from me.
00:55:27
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Yeah. We'll have to see. I hope it does better than that. Maybe we'll get to see. Who knows? We'll find out. jane Can you remember what we've got coming next? Because you know what in a weird way, it's not a completely serious one. i I normally write down what we have next so that won't know. And I didn't.
00:55:49
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So I think I know. But please tell me because I feel like it's something which returns us back to the ah the heights of what this podcast is supposed to be about. Yeah, well, yeah, it should do. I think you're right there.
00:56:03
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is it? This film does also contain an element of dark comedy as well. Oh, I think I'm right. humour. You're right, you're right then. I think I'm right then. So, it's the ah unforgettable, seminal werewolf movie, John Landis' American Werewolf in London from 1981. I'm really looking forward to that.
00:56:23
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That's going to be real. I cannot... I know we always say this. It's like a catchphrase of this podcast, but I cannot believe we have not reviewed that. Because I already know my score for that film. This is criminal. There's not going to be... I'm sorry, but there's scary movie. There's not going I'm going to watch this. And I have watched this reasonably recently. there's no going to watch this again and go...
00:56:41
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oh this doesn't this doesn't land no no I'm not it's going to be a high score bit spoiler for the podcast but it is a genre defining film isn't it it's how we do it it's how we do it it's pure gold people should know that if they've listened to a couple of episodes back on track deconstruct it and really good to have an excuse to watch it again that's what looking forward Oh, good one. Excellent. Well, thank you for joining us. Thank you for watching this. And I hope people got something out of it. Maybe you'll go off and watch scary movie.
00:57:13
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Maybe you'll go and off and watch the new scary movie. I don't know. But, you know, maybe you'll boycott it altogether. Maybe you'll boycott everything. Maybe. Yeah, who knows? Thank you for loving horror as much as we do. And yeah, I guess we'll see you again for American Werewolf in London.
00:57:28
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Goodbye. Until next episode. What's up? up wow yeah Put the mask on. See
00:57:41
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you later. Bye.