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Episode 3b: The Body as an Ecosystem: Movement, Nourishment, Recovery & Rhythm  - Part 2 image

Episode 3b: The Body as an Ecosystem: Movement, Nourishment, Recovery & Rhythm - Part 2

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In this episode of the Body Evolution Podcast, we continue to shift the way we understand the body — from something to control or fix, to an intelligent ecosystem that’s constantly adapting to our lifestyle.  After laying the foundation with identity in the previous episodes, this conversation explores how the body responds to recovery, energy, and rhythm. We explain why symptoms are often signals rather than failures, and how the body reflects the inputs it’s given over time.  Instead of fighting your body or chasing isolated fixes, this episode invites you to work with your biology — supporting it through intentional movement, proper nourishment, rest, and aligned rhythms that allow real health to emerge naturally.  In this episode, we explore:  - Why the body is always adapting, not malfunctioning - What it really means when people say “the body remembers” - How lifestyle inputs shape physical responses over time - Why health breaks down when we treat the body as isolated systems - Why recovery and sleep are essential for adaptation, not optional - How stress and lack of rest disrupt the entire ecosystem - The role of energy, rhythm, and connection in overall health - Why working with the body creates better outcomes than forcing it  This episode is an invitation to release judgment and build understanding. When you stop fighting your body and start supporting it, health becomes a cooperative process — one grounded in rhythm, nourishment, movement, and trust.  🔗 Connect with Body Evolution - https://linktr.ee/body_evolution

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Introduction & Episode Structure

00:00:00
Speaker
So welcome back. Our episode went a bit long, so we decided to split it into two. We've talked about the pillars of our system so far and and and the pillars of health.
00:00:14
Speaker
So far, we've talked about the first three and enjoy the second episode. Thanks.

The Role of Sleep and Recovery in Health

00:00:20
Speaker
Let's talk about the next pillar. Let's talk about how important is sleep and recovery.
00:00:27
Speaker
And it's a beautiful pillar. And for that, I wanted to ask you about why is recovery so misunderstood in when we talk about wellness and health? It's like, it's completely recovery misunderstood.
00:00:42
Speaker
Oh yeah. I mean, it's, Misunderstood and undervalued for sure. i mean, people think I've got to go, go, go. If I'm going to get results, it's all about how much work I can do or how much, you know, how much I can put those stressors on my body that my body's going to adapt to in the, in putting it in more scientific terms. Right.
00:01:03
Speaker
But recovery is about adaptation. Recovery is, is how the adaptation happens. It's not about being lazy or being inactive.
00:01:14
Speaker
You need the recovery to have the response that you you want your body to have. At the end of a workout, you're not stronger, you're weaker. You've just broken down your your energy systems and your muscles are have been stressed.
00:01:29
Speaker
So you need the recovery to get the full adaptation that you're trying to signal. If you just go and work that muscle again right away, you're not getting the full full benefit of that first workout.
00:01:42
Speaker
And so you're stressing that, muscle again and you have to rest it even longer if you're going to get the full benefit of even that workout. But you you're sort of, you're skipping the step of your gains. You're skipping a step of what you need. So, and and that happens not only in the workouts, but your mental stress as well.
00:02:07
Speaker
if

Methods and Importance of Recovery

00:02:08
Speaker
i'm If I'm always like, go go go, go, go, I've got to get, you know, got to get so much work done in my workday to be, you know, to get things done, to get, meet my goals or whatever it is.
00:02:20
Speaker
But you'll, you'll end up with too much mental stress. And then you become, we're your brain's not going to be working as well. yeah yeah It's the recovery from even the mental stress that helps your brain recover, that helps your Hormonal systems recover so that you have that resilience to go back and do things better next time.
00:02:42
Speaker
You know, your brain exercises, just like your muscles do. And, and so does your emotional body and everything else. Your, your, your, the way you stress yourself has to be intentional. And even if it isn't intentional,
00:02:54
Speaker
You still need that recovery time to get the full adaptation, to get that resilience, to get that adaptation that they gets you stronger, that gets you better, that gets you you, know, the goals that you want to get. And so recovery has to be so taken into account. Sleep is one of those things that's a big part of that recovery. It's not only sleep, it's obviously sleep. the periods of inactivity for physical but you know there's so much that happens during sleep so i and i know you've you've studied probably more than i have on the sleep so please let us know like if we're not getting enough sleep what is that really doing to us
00:03:32
Speaker
Yes. And before I enter the sleep, I wanted to to share too, because some people are sometimes confused in the recovery.
00:03:42
Speaker
What kind of things are recovery? And I wanted to add that we have like saunas. It's one way to recover. It can help. We have massages. You can go up a good massage for different reasons. Just disconnecting and going out for hiking with a friend, there a whole week of really mental work is a way of recovery too. So there are a lot of different ways that we can adapt that recovery.
00:04:11
Speaker
But as you were saying, what happens when we are missing sleep? That's the biggest one of all the recovery sets that we have to do. now So missing sleep is so detrimental for our body, for our emotions, for our focus and the function of your brain, for how your body behaves when it comes to eating patterns.
00:04:39
Speaker
to how it affects your identity because you don't behave like you should usually will be you know and that's why sometimes you see someone and say like i think that person didn't sleep because they're behaving completely different of usually who they are So missing sleep, it affects the whole body.
00:05:02
Speaker
It affects how it repairs. So if you are doing a lot of exercise, you're going to the gym the whole week, pushing hard and everything, week after week, out week after week, and you have one month, two months, and you're not doing recoveries or you're not doing sleep and you're not sleeping enough.
00:05:22
Speaker
And just like, how this guy does 10 times less than me, but come on, he's getting fit, he's getting strong. Oh, I can assure you that guy is taking care of their sleep.
00:05:36
Speaker
And there is where all the adaptation is happening. He's really giving the space, the body to adapt. So it's so important to understand that if you don't sleep well,
00:05:48
Speaker
it really disrupts your whole everything. It disrupts all the other areas. It's like this foundational part that helps all the other systems of your body.
00:06:00
Speaker
So you need a good sleep for your focus, your cognitive, and how your your brain is functioning for decision-making to be clear in your mind, to have a good emotional regulation, and you don't react very hard to things and you're more calm, you're rested.
00:06:21
Speaker
Have you seen how some people behave when they are tired? They are a bad mood, they talk bad to you, or they're reacting very, or they crash down and begin to cry.
00:06:32
Speaker
They are just tired. So it's so important in that part. And even sleeping It's so important for if if you want to lose weight and you're only focused on nutrition, hey, sleep is a big part of losing weight. is You need to sleep well.
00:06:50
Speaker
And it's so important that we respect some parameters when we go to sleep to have a... It's not about only because some people think it's about only the quantity of hours hours you sleep, but it's the quality of your sleep that is very important. So

Energy and Life Rhythms

00:07:07
Speaker
missing hours or missing quality is going to disrupt how you really rest.
00:07:14
Speaker
And it's going to disrupt the whole rhythm of your day. And talking about the rhythm is is one of our pillars too. It's about rhythm. And I wanted, before to jump into rhythm, I just remember one thing and I want to share with the people. I have been a person that, and I know about this sleep because I have deprived myself from sleep so many times for party, for having fun. Yeah, you have witnessed. And a big example of who can disrupt their body by not sleeping well. And the decision making have been harder, emotionally harder. And I have to say that sadly i have a bad relationship when I was growing up with sleep because for me sleep was losing time.
00:08:08
Speaker
When I was young, sleeping it was for losers. If you are sleeping, you are not doing. So I was pushing hard and not sleeping well. If I was sleeping, I was not having the party with my friends and the good moments. If I was sleeping, I was not working in the home where I needed to do. If I was sleeping, I was not doing the exercises I i needed to do. So sleep was like a loss of time and it changed a lot when I respect sleep.
00:08:38
Speaker
It changed me. It helps me to be another person. So I know, and you know that I can go, ah, come on, push your body and everything. Now, if I do it, I do it intentionally, intentionally, I will say, okay, I'm goingnna have fun, but I will prepare myself before that.
00:08:58
Speaker
And even if I cannot recover that sleep that I is disrupt, but I will try to do the best so it affects the less to me. But I always know that then I will have to rest in the following days the best possible quality sleep to recover from that.
00:09:15
Speaker
And now let's talk about the rhythm. Let's talk about energy. Let's talk about connection. It's very important. And this is another pillar we love to talk about because energy, rhythm and connection is so important. And that's why I want you, Corey, share a little bit with with us.
00:09:37
Speaker
What do really What is really meaning when we say that we want to talk about the energy of the body? What what would you can explain people what is energy of the body? it's It's more than just a simple answer of saying that energy is you know our body moving and burning calories and and doing all the physical and chemical functions that we know about. And that's that's the basic physical and chemical energy that we're aware of that our body has.
00:10:08
Speaker
But there are different levels of energy in our body. It goes down to the electrical system of our body, the nervous system. We have electrical energy. We have, and beyond that, sort of a life energy. And this is this is more, less scientific. and'll I'll give you that. We'll put that right out there. But now from more of these Eastern philosophies from way back,
00:10:32
Speaker
all talk about life force energy, like in Chinese medicine, this is the Chi, um, life force and in yoga is, you know, they they talk about different, uh, levels of energy and that your you give your energy bodily and more subtle energies and these things, I know and I've, I've experienced them.
00:10:52
Speaker
Intentionally, and and I guess you can probably bring up an example for people to understand some simple form of it. Like if you're you're feeling really empathetic, if you feel like you're really sorry for something, of've really you feel that like my heart's broken or my heart opened up, I feel ah but a lot of love. You feel this like feeling in your chest.
00:11:14
Speaker
And that's, that's not, that's why people call the heart, you know, the, the center for, you know, you, you think your heart is the organ for love or whatever it is. Right. So that's because you feel those, those strong energies, the strong, uh, emotive, empathetic kind of energies through that, that center of your chest and you feel that. And so anybody can feel that understands and, and,
00:11:41
Speaker
When people practice it more, they can feel that in different parts of their body and and and feel that that that part of their energy level is real, is part of who they are.
00:11:54
Speaker
And if you're religious or want to look at the soul and you know the spiritual aspect of it, that's I think just more subtle forms of energy and the way I like to look at it. and it's It's just a different sort of level of energy in your body. And so all these levels of energy work together to create our whole self. And so you have this, you know, that physical and chemical energy that we sort of see and know about, and that's just calories in calories out kind of energy, right? But these other energies,
00:12:27
Speaker
can lift you up or take you down. He talked about, you know lack of sleep and being in bad emotional moods. We all know that, you know, no matter what we've eaten, if we've got plenty of energy, technically, physically, yet we're in a bad mood, we can't, we can't spur very good energy.
00:12:45
Speaker
We have this, this more subtle energy, depressing energy. our ability to work, you know, at in a physical level, the at the processes that create energy that we want to see in our lives, right? so the same way that you know a bad mood brings down to your energy stress just sort of takes your energy right it it it requires so much of that more subtle energy that you you don't have it left over to spur on the energies that you want the productive energies the the joyous energies the active energies that you want in your life and so those are the things that we want
00:13:28
Speaker
take care of. So we have these different

Connections and Self-Awareness

00:13:31
Speaker
levels of energy in your body. So you we want to, we don't, we can't force it. We want to cultivate it Just like we talked about nourishing your body and in and having these different levels of, of, of being able to support your body. You're not forcing it. You can't force it to say, I've eaten this many calories so I can do this much activity and I have this much energy.
00:13:52
Speaker
It is about taking care of your whole self and, and, and from, uh, all the way down to the spiritual level and the, in the, that life force of the interaction with your environment and in taking the energy from the sun and everything else that you have that, that ability to interact with your environment energetically.
00:14:11
Speaker
Um, and so, you know, that I've taken on some of these yoga and, uh, Tai Chi and Qi Gong kind of practices that have helped, you know, sort of keep that energy constant and sort of talk about in flow.
00:14:29
Speaker
That's another sort of more common realization of that kind of energy, that more subtle energy to where these things, when somebody's in flow like in in a sport or playing an instrument, there's no full mechanical explanation for how good that body behaves or how that body interacts with its environment beyond that energy is flowing as it's supposed to.
00:14:57
Speaker
And you're not thinking, you're not trying to force it. You're not trying to, you're, you know, a person, ah you know, the, The best pro bath basketball players are when they go up for a jump shot, they're they're not thinking about, oh, I need to lift my arm at this angle and I need to pull here. i might you know they're not talking They're not thinking about mechanics.
00:15:15
Speaker
They are in flow. They are letting it letting it go without thinking about it at all. They're not in their head at all. And that's when people say, well, they got in their head. Once you get in your head, you're out of flow.
00:15:26
Speaker
And you, you, you're then not going to perform as well. And so that's another example of how we are, our energies of our body need to flow. We need to cultivate them.
00:15:39
Speaker
And it's beyond just that physical and in chemical energy that we're, we're so aware of. I love what you were saying. i would love because it's true that energy is about the thoughts too. where We were talking about identity, energy is related to our thoughts and how you express. And lack of the sleep, low energy, bad mood.
00:16:04
Speaker
How do you feel when you are energized? You feel happy. You feel... Oh my God, what did you say about people? Oh, that person was so, he has so good vibes, he's like very good energy, do you know? It's like you like when that person entered the room or when you were talking about sports, how is the the energy that you feel in in you know in the field with all the people cheering you up?
00:16:31
Speaker
And what happens, a big example, a game, last minute, they are dying. they have been running all the time. They have been like hard work during that match.
00:16:46
Speaker
And what happens when they win a World Cup or ah anything, a championship, they go like crazy. They begin to run and jump. What's that happened? They were dying minutes ago. They were like tired. Usually after a match like that, you're like, but the emotion That feeling is so much energy that you can see the people pushing and going farther and say, what is going on here? They were going to die two minutes ago. Now they win. And that guy with cramps and doing exercises because he cannot move anymore. Now he's running, celebrating with the people. That's energy.
00:17:28
Speaker
Yeah, absolutely. And and or a a rock star in front of ah a big audience that gives that energy and all the all those big performers, they talk about that kind of the energy they feel from the crowd and they get that energy. That's not...
00:17:44
Speaker
explainable through our physical mechanisms that we, you know, physical or chemical energy, that is that subtle energy. That is that interactive energy. And and speaking of interaction, you know, the, the connections that we have and and the rhythms in our life, uh, shape your health as well. So, you know, explain a little bit more how that happens. Like not only like day to day, but also long-term.
00:18:11
Speaker
So, As we were saying, energy is so important. It's your mood, how you behave, how you present, how you express. But it's so important that to keep that energy up.
00:18:23
Speaker
We have a good rhythm in life and we have an environment that supports us. Not only ah I'm talking about the connection with people.
00:18:34
Speaker
So we need that rhythm in life, good sleep, good movement, the nutritional parts of all these movements to begin to set and keep that balance and harmony of your energy flowing. But to keep that energy up and everything, we need more than that.
00:18:54
Speaker
We need these natural rhythms that we have, like kind of rhythms and other rhythms of our body, but we need that rhythm that is outside our word body.
00:19:06
Speaker
And we have different rhythms in life and we have a little bit of different kinds of connections. So we have the rhythm of the year.
00:19:18
Speaker
And we have that seasonal movement of the year. So we have summer, we have spring, we have winter, fall, and in each one, they're happening different things.
00:19:29
Speaker
We have other rhythms in our own life. When we're in school, we were in our career, when you're single, when you have a girlfriend, when you have family, you have different seasons in life. These are different seasons, different moments in life. And they have, each one have different rhythms.
00:19:52
Speaker
But all this is connected to to the connection. So we need the rhythms and the connection. And I'm not talking about the connection as always we say, oh, connection with other people, connection with your friends, family, and relationships. And it's super important, those connections. But I will start with the first connection we need is connection with ourself.
00:20:14
Speaker
That's the first connection. You have to connect with yourself, with your body, with your mind. to understand what you want in life, to understand your purpose, to understand your values. Connecting deeply with you is so important because it's the first rhythm.
00:20:29
Speaker
The internal rhythm of your body, the internal rhythm you have in that moment in life, goes interconnected of how you connect with yourself. What do you think about yourself?
00:20:41
Speaker
How much love you give to yourself? How much compassion you give to yourself? That connection is super important. We have... That connection with yourself gives you a lot of signals on how you behave in life and this is all about identity. So that's the first connection with yourself. It's your identity connecting inward.
00:21:03
Speaker
Then you have another connection that people don't talk that much, but is with your environment, your surroundings, nature, animals. Those are so important.
00:21:16
Speaker
One of the best ways to regulate energy is connecting with your environment, with with nature, going barefoot into the grass, into the sun. going into the sea, it regulates your energy levels and that is so important to have it.
00:21:33
Speaker
That connection that you can connect with nature going for hiking, being in parks, connecting with animals and playing with them. So those connections are essential too and of course We need those connections with the sun, the wind, the weather. Those affects how we express express ourselves too in the world and how our energy moves and that connection with others.
00:22:02
Speaker
That is essential. We are social. We need, if you isolate someone for a long buriery period of time, there is completely depression. They're gonna go down.
00:22:14
Speaker
They lose motivation, they lose everything. That's why COVID it when it hits, it was so hard for so many people. that isolation from the that that the rest of the people, from nature, from people, and that lacking of connection will affect the connection they have with their own selves.
00:22:34
Speaker
So we need

Effort, Recovery, and Adaptation

00:22:36
Speaker
all these to work together. But it's essential that you have an environment that supports you, a group of connections, family, relationship, friends,
00:22:47
Speaker
All those are so important to keep the connection you have with yourself in touch. But it's true that these days I have seen that a lot of people have connection with others and maybe be connection with nature, but they are lacking that connection with themselves.
00:23:05
Speaker
and they don't like to be with themselves too. Like, if you really sit in a place alone and you are not able to be with yourself, you need to work in connection with yourself.
00:23:18
Speaker
If you don't want to be alone with yourself, distracting yourself, having the phone, doing this, doing that, and and it's hard for you to sit down a little bit, with yourself is a moment that you have to reflect like, hmm, here I have to put some work because I'm lacking that connection with myself. So to get the good rhythm of energy We have to follow the rhythm of life and adapt to them.
00:23:47
Speaker
You cannot do exactly the same when you were single than when you are in a relationship than when you are married and with children. You cannot do the same that you did in school, then in university, or when you're working in a professional career. There are different rhythms and you will adapt your connections, you will adapt the way you behave in the world, and you will adapt all what we were talking before, your fitness, your nutrition, your sleep and everything to the rhythms of life in the one you are in that moment.
00:24:20
Speaker
So as we talked in the past, mind-body connection, it's all about this, the connection you have with your mind, with your body and with everything that surrounds you.
00:24:32
Speaker
So important. and Yeah, i that's that that means so much. It's so important to have that connection. In addition, that's why we talk about this as a whole pillar is that, you know, they're are working on our energy and our connections and our attitude that's kind of soft power, if you will, of of that level of existence, the mind, the emotions, and and it all happens through the connection, through the rhythm of our life and in taking care of of that balance of energy and that flow.
00:25:08
Speaker
And so, you know, the first pillars that we talked about were about sort of that, that the physical adaptations that we can make that and sort of the obvious changes and stressors to our bodies. But so health isn't built on that kind of effort alone. It's built through this, the energy and the rhythm and connection as well.
00:25:28
Speaker
That's beautiful. I love it. And it's like that. And Now that we have talked a lot about these pillars that are so essential to our health, I wanted to talk a little bit about why pushing harder gonna break this ecosystem, this system that we have been talking.
00:25:49
Speaker
And there I wanted to ask you, Corey, why do people still believe more effort is always the answer? Right. I mean, because it's just our culture, you know, it's go, go, go. This has become more and more so recently, and you know, this Western culture that we've developed is, is that we think we need to do more and more and more and more and more.
00:26:15
Speaker
And, and so they think that that's the only way to get ahead and that's the only way to get results. But at some point you're just fighting yourself and you're fighting the adaptation and the recovery and the, and, and gaining the fruits of whatever labor you've put in.
00:26:32
Speaker
just by more, more effort. And so if you keep putting more and more effort, my I got to work, work, work, work till you die. When are you going to enjoy the results of this effort?
00:26:43
Speaker
Right. And that's the same as, is, you know, fitness is like, I got to, you know, so they, that they take that, that attitude of work, work to get more, work, work to get more to their fitness life or something like that. And it says, I want to punish myself to get any results. I got to, I really work so hard and, and, and,
00:27:01
Speaker
That's not the truth. You, you know, you're intentionally stimulating, it is not, you don't even have to they talk about, oh yeah, you, you work hard enough to tear down the, tear down the tissues and you really get these micro tears and you really hurt yourself.
00:27:14
Speaker
And it's discovered that's not the case. Yes. There's some of that happens to some degree, but you don't have to make yourself totally sore every time you work out to get stimulation, to grow your muscle.
00:27:25
Speaker
That no pain, no gain. Yeah, exactly. Right. Yeah. And, but that's not reality of it. If you're working with it, you know what you're doing, you stimulate yourself correctly and you allow yourself to recover correctly.
00:27:39
Speaker
You, yeah, you're gonna, you know, make a little bit of pain here and there, but you, you can really optimize your recovery by just like, how do I help to optimize the fruits that I get out of this labor, not just more more labor, you know, that's that, and something's going to come out of it for sure, you know, and but then you're punishing yourself all the time. So yeah you misunderstand that more isn't isn't necessarily better. And but the best change usually comes gradually.
00:28:09
Speaker
and And that's the last things of the stuff that you can appreciate more and the stuff that you know you can maintain ah for the longevity of your life. And so too much effort is just going to like kill you. And that's where some people like they punish themselves for having rested too long or having been out of it. So they're like,
00:28:29
Speaker
oh, I've been a couch potato for a year and a half and I gained all this weight. So I'm going to hit the gym hard this time. And they go and they can't slow down. They, cause they've worked out before. They know what they're doing, right? So they're, they're going in and they, they just push themselves and then they either injure themselves or it hurts so bad that they're just going to wind up back on the couch again. And all this stuff, it's like, no, no, you need to, need to be a little more gentle with yourself. It's, it's going to break you if you, if you're going too hard.
00:29:00
Speaker
when you push yourself too hard, your body, you know, responds. So what really happens in the body when you when you're pushing too hard or your mind is, you know, their your body's gonna react when we push too hard. so So let's kind of get into technically what what's what does what does that do to your body?
00:29:20
Speaker
Well, first we have to understand that when your mind feels threatened or your body feels the danger, if your mind is feeling danger coming or your body is gonna go the other way. So when the mind is feeling, oh, this is threatening me, this is dangerous, is the same is gonna be connected to the body and the body is gonna react.
00:29:48
Speaker
But the same happens the other way. If the body is feeling threatened, it's gonna affect the mind too. And when we're talking here, sometimes when it's in the mind can be like the ego response or it can be just override your stress levels and overwhelming and becoming anxiety and all that is gonna have a response in your body. So if it's the ego can make you be in defensive mode and stress and anger and all these reactions are gonna have a direct impact in your body.
00:30:25
Speaker
but at the same time when the body is feeling it because you are pushing it too hard and it's feeling the danger, it's gonna shut down. If you go to the gym five days in a row and you begin to work out every day, a lot of hours and the body's like, what the hell is happening?
00:30:44
Speaker
It's like he's working three, four hours a day, pushing as hard every day. And your body can support this for maybe a period of time, but there is a threshold. Once you cross that threshold, your body is trying to protect you. It's gonna shut down.
00:31:00
Speaker
sir Now, I'm not going to let you move for several days. So go into the bed, you know, and stay there almost dying because everything hurts and you feel fatigue and burnout and everything. And your mind is going to be, it's going to be like, oh my God, cannot move, it hurts. And so any of the two ways when you override and you put in danger,
00:31:29
Speaker
your body is gonna affect your mind. And when you put in danger, your mind or your identity, your ego, your mental stress is getting to that and you cross that threshold. Once you cross that threshold, hold there is a big impact in the body too.
00:31:46
Speaker
So we have to always, if we want good performance, we have to come from safety. Safety for the body and safety for the mind.
00:31:57
Speaker
So important, the recovery process, the stopping. We have to learn to understand the signals of the body and the mind to say, okay, sometimes I can push and go faster.
00:32:10
Speaker
And sometimes you have to slow down and take it easy. And that's the truth. Even ah good point of view is, look, in business, sometimes some businesses, like we have to go faster and push and push and push and push and push and push and push and they don't give time to adapt to the business. Oh, we're growing, where all this money's coming in, all this, until they get to a moment that they cannot They cannot give what they are offering because, oh, we sell all these millions, yes, but we don't have the space to produce all this in time to to give this to the people.
00:32:47
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It goes bankrupt. You were pushing and you were like, oh my God, this, hey but you didn't have the infrastructure. You didn't didn't have the structure to support all that rhythm that was pushing so hard.
00:33:02
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But the other way will be the same. You cannot slow all the time and not do nothing because it's dangerous to move a little bit. No. So do you have to know that there are moments to push and there are moments to slow down.
00:33:19
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I think what you said about about Yeah, the structure, the basic structure having to be there. That's the same with your body as the business. It's like if you get overextend your business, you don't have the infrastructure to support that, then then you're going to overextend and you're going to be in trouble.
00:33:33
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It's the same with your body. if

Understanding Body Signals

00:33:36
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if your joints If your joints aren't strong enough to handle, likes like you' these guys can like, especially like young guys could like build a lot of muscle in a short period of time if they got the hormones going right and they get enough protein and stuff, but they haven't had their joints.
00:33:50
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They've, they've they they can get over over themselves when they haven't had that that that structure base, that that good solid base of of, and that's why the gradual changes work so much better for people. It's people who are older and get back into it and they can do all this stuff, and all these stresses of their body and their basic body's not used to expending that ah expending that energy. They're not used to the stressors on the bones and the joints. and then that's when they get injuries and soreness and everything else versus when you do it on a gradual level all that stuff builds at the same time so you're able to have this nice strong base and structure to support that growth.
00:34:28
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And exactly as you were saying because imagine I have never run a marathon. I'm there and I said, I talk with a friend, Hey, let's run this marathon. Okay. When is it in three months? Oh, let's do it. I'm going to train for the marathon. I'm going to go out. Okay. How much I have to run? Oh, I should be running every day. 10 kilometers. I'm going to run. that I'm, I ensure you that person, the first thing is going to feel is an injury.
00:34:56
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If he doesn't know how to run, if his joints are not prepared for that, his cardiovascular system is not prepared for that, and he goes the first day and try to run, first, it's gonna be really hard, it runs the 10 kilometers, really hard, but if he's gonna cross that threshold, his body, he's gonna shut down.
00:35:20
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And if he do it in a not safety way, he's gonna get injury. So for a good performance, we come first from safety and to understand our our thresholds and to know when to slow down.
00:35:34
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So for me, that's one of the basics that we have to understand. I wanted to enter a final point that we want to express and share with the people and I wanted to ask you about because we have to learn, as I was saying, to listen the body.
00:35:52
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We have to understand those signals to find the rhythm of the body again. And in this way, I wanted to ask you how does the body um how can I say how simply explaining that way how the body communicates with us what is what we have to be looking for yeah and we've just kind of talked a bit about it throughout this episode about you know the that the symptoms are the signals from the body right and and so
00:36:26
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we talk about sore joints, we talk about fatigue, we talk about, you know, digestion not being good, all these things, all these things, our body, that we feel in our body.
00:36:38
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And, and, and the more we get in tuned with our body, the the more we listen to these, the better we are at listening to them and recognizing them. Some people are not connected with their body very well at all. And so this is kind of ignore these symptoms until they get really, really bad, until they are really loud signals by the body, right? And so sometimes the the better you are at listening to your body, the more subtle you can adjust, right? You can you can look at these these signals as as these little little little pain here, a little pain there. Oh, this is this is something I need to adjust. I better get a massage here before this this snowballs into something that really takes my spine out of alignment, you know, that kind of thing to where then I'll have a a disc s slipped in and I have a real problem. you know so You feel the subtle things like, okay, let's take care of the subtle thing. and and Really, the fine tuning becomes better when you get better at listening to your body. so We talk about you know even fever being an example of intelligence in the body and recognizing what the fever is trying to tell us. oh There's an infection in the body, um I've got a fever.
00:37:45
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That means I should rest and let my immune system work a little bit. And, and sometimes that hits you hard enough when you're sick that you're kind of forced to rest. But some people try to push through things like that. But no, that's, that's a signal that, you know, your body needs to work on something. You need your energies going toward healing, toward fighting something off and let that, let that fever work. And, you know, that fever is an intelligent thing to,
00:38:10
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It raises the temperature so that inhospitable to whatever virus or whatever or whatever bacteria is trying to fight. And so let your body do that thing. Let your body do what it wants to do. And don't fight it. Don't don't try to push beyond it. Don't ignore it.
00:38:26
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ah So the body's always talking to us and we just need to sort of learn that language. And so we weren't, it's not automatic. We don't always know. It's not always intuitive, but the the more we try to work at it, the better we get at it the more subtle we can be with our adjustments and fine tuning of of the the performance of this amazing machine that we're always trying to figure out, right? So if we if we do that and we we sort of start to master it,
00:38:54
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what What does that actually look like? What are the outcomes we can expect?
00:39:01
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So learning to hear the body. So I will start sharing one moment that I didn't listen in my body correctly. ah I suffered back pain, lower back pain for a long time and I was having sciatic issues. So I have a disc hernia and
00:39:23
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It came with me for a long time and until I didn't put my awareness that my body is telling me something, something is wrong. I was feeling my body just broken I have a bad column and that's all.
00:39:39
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But it was interesting that when I began to do something medicine never told me to do. They told me, don't go to the gym, don't do this, it's bad for your back, you will have this injury, don't do it. But I began to understand my body and to feel aware.
00:39:59
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And I began to work. I went to the gym, it's transplanting for my back. I began to train for my back. Disappeared. The signal of pain disappeared. Even when doctors see me again, they were like,
00:40:14
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What are you doing? It's like the air net, the hole and everything is like going smaller. It's like, you're really recovering and now I pick more weight and I function much better.
00:40:27
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So the first thing is awareness. You need awareness and awareness is to be curious, is to a look about the things without the fear, without the judgment. that We don't want to, oh, there is pain and began panicking from fear and judging the outcome. Oh, I have this pain because this, and then you go, oh, read, and oh, I have this thing. Oh, I'm, shh, calm down.
00:40:55
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We bring first awareness and not from fear, just from curiosity. Second, we don't judge the outcome. The outcome is one problem. This is the signal. This is the signal.
00:41:07
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But we have to see, okay, what is the input that caused that output? So once you can find out, oh, it's true. In the last months, I began to do this.
00:41:21
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And then I began to fail this. Oh, okay, let's do a small change in the input. Let's try to work in that. and you begin to recalibrate slowly your body.
00:41:33
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So my signal of the lower back was that I didn't have strength in my back, in the lower back, in my muscles. So each time I was picking up stuff and I was doing it incorrectly, but at the same time when I was doing it, all the tension was coming from the bones, not from the muscles.
00:41:59
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So I was pushing hard. When I began to change the signal, it begins to, okay, now I'm getting, now it's my muscles doing the job and now my column can rest a little bit and it does what it needs to do. So a small input create a good ripple effect and it begins to change. Now that I didn't have the lower back pain, I can do other stuff that I couldn't do it before.
00:42:27
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And now my body begins to function better. And now all the tension in my back because one muscle was working more than another or the position I was walking, that was all that began to disappear. So you began with the curiosity asking, okay, I'm feeling this, why this can be. No judgment, just awareness, curiosity.
00:42:52
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Okay, and then, okay, what inputs I can do to help and what a small change I can do to begin to create this change. And once you begin to do that, it helps you that the rhythm, as we were talking before, we have different rhythms in life, you can return to that rhythm where you were feeling great, where you were feeling good, but you have to start everything with your awareness.
00:43:20
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And the the thing is that we have to learn, as you were saying, Corey, the body's always talking. It's not only sending you symptoms when things are wrong, it's telling you to when it's great, but we are not aware.
00:43:36
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Maybe you eat something and you're like super energized, but you don't feel, you don't think, oh, it was that food. You know, sometimes we sleep great and next day we're like, oh, why yesterday was so happy and today I'm so down.
00:43:53
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So the symptoms, they are not only coming sometimes, We call them symptoms. We can say symptoms, but they are good and bad symptoms. now So it's nice to be aware too of what is working.
00:44:06
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So bring that awareness to the rhythm. And once you learn this, you know that your body is always talking, sending you signals, good or bad. So it's always talking.
00:44:18
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And when you listen

Conclusion and Resources

00:44:19
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to this talk, to these signals, it's so easy to come back to the return, the rhythm that you were having, where you were feeling powerful, feeling good.
00:44:32
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So to return to your correct rhythm or to go to the rhythm, because maybe you have listened for a long time, you have to listen in your body. It had been a long talk. We have been explaining a lot of things today.
00:44:45
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happy been i We were really into the things because we love this. We love talking about our body, the health, the wellness, the mind. It's a beautiful topic we are really passionate about, as you can see.
00:45:00
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So I just wanted to wrap up because it's for a long time and we want to first thank you for your time everyone jude there with us here thank you very much we have a great time talking together and if this conversation really brings you a little bit of clarity if it brings you curiosity and some awareness please hit the like button it really helps us and please follow up the podcast wherever platform you are looking at
00:45:33
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00:45:47
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And remember always, we have some free resources where you can start taking action right now. can be very helpful. Yes. Yeah. Thanks, Elliot. And we also have a program if you would like to like our personalities and coaching, and you want to go deeper with us, we have a program that is Body Evolution. You can check that out in the link below as well. And follow us on our social medias. And the links for all those are in the in the show notes.
00:46:17
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And thanks for sticking with us, like Elliot said, through this long episode. We appreciate you. We'll see you next time.
00:46:25
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See you next time.