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Speaker: Today's show, we're going to be tackling some heavy topics. We're going to get into it. Let's get it.
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Speaker: On today's episode, it's the Sibling Happier. I'm here with my sis, J. Andrea. We're going to be dilly-dadding a little bit. Then we're going talking about Miss Rachel and Macklemore. And then we're going talking about things that we shouldn't do in our older age.
Speaker: But that's enough of the intro. Let's get to the show.
Speaker: What up, sis? What up, brother? I can't call it. I can't call it. some Some news popped up on the wire right before we jumped on here. And P. Diddy's lawyers done dropped him.
Speaker: Yeah, I mean, it's kind of hard to defend the guilty. Well, this is a little bit different. So this law firm, Shear Tremont LLP, asked the court for permission to stop representing Sean P. Diddy Combs in this $100 million defamation lawsuit. Now, the suit is against Nextar Media, the parent company of News Nation, attorney Ariel Mitchell and Courtney Burgess. The suit stems from a late 2024, early 2025 television appearance where the defendants alleged that Combs mixed drugs with baby oil and claimed to possess videos of Combs sexually assaulting minors. Combs vehemently denied those accusations and he filed a lawsuit. But...
Speaker: the law firm is requesting to drop him because they're like, we ain't got paid. And he is like, well, but he, but Diddy was like, well, y'all was inflating costs and trying to scam me. So I'm not going pay you. So that's the whole situation. So Diddy, Diddy like, whatever, man, I'm in jail anyway. What y'all going do?
Speaker: I mean, does he have it? I don't think he does have it. I don't think he does either. i don't know if they like froze his assets or if he can get like access to his assets. Like, I mean, we know that he's rich, but like, can he get access to his money?
Speaker: Yeah. Is the question. what was i mean, I don't. Yeah. come again like I don't know. He'll come out and get rich again. You know, all he has to do is a documentary. If he does a documentary, signs a deal with Netflix to do some type of television show, he'll be right back to making money.
Speaker: I don't know. you think he's going to get canceled? i Yes. You know why I don't think he'll get canceled? Why? You can do things to women, and if you can come if you come out contrite, the world to forgive you.
Speaker: Yeah, because don't nobody care about women. Yeah, that sorts with that's what I'm saying. So, yeah, no, i think he can come out and and be just fine, unfortunately.
Speaker: i I don't know. i don't know about just fine. I don't know that he'll want to. I think he'll get out and go abroad somewhere.
Speaker: Wherever Russell Simmons is, he'll get a place right next door. yeah He already did his time. He already did his time. He's going to come out. and I'm telling going to come out on a tour. He's going to go on all the podcasts, confronting everybody that was talking trash about him, except for this one. He ain't coming on this podcast.
Speaker: But yeah, no. I mean, he he can. He's not going to want to. yeah you He won't want to. I don't know. No, I'm not going to give that man no quarter. He is not. He would not want to come on this podcast.
Speaker: You know me. i always start at the beginning. not this whole Today's whole episode is going to be really, really interesting. Because I'm asking people to have nuance.
Speaker: So I wasn't planning on talking about it this second this first segment. But... If I were to interview Puffy, I would have nuance in that interview. I would start from the beginning.
Speaker: I would start with his childhood, get to what would drive a person to do the things that he did. Not to excuse it. hey Never to excuse the actions, but to gain some type of insight, some type of understanding in hopes that If people see that they're going down the same road that he did, knowing would end up, that they would be like, oh, wait a minute.
Speaker: I done seen this story before. Let me address my issues, get some therapy, and fix myself. So that that's how I would tackle that interview. You better than me.
Speaker: i don't know about that. It's just a... Yeah. i'm not I'm not a therapist, and I'm not into giving him any grace or mercy. I didn't say that I was going to do any of those things. Who said I was giving him grace or mercy?
Speaker: my I mean, I don't care about his childhood. I don't care about the potential trauma. There are plenty of people who have gone through trauma and they don't beat the hell out of somebody in a hotel.
Speaker: There's plenty of people that don't go through trauma and still beat the hell out of people. Right. So honestly, the motivation, I don't really care. My first question is, why are you horrible?
Speaker: Like, honestly, that would be my first question. And that would, why are you horrible? I would try to answer that question by starting from the beginning and and saying, hey, how did we get here? would do the same thing. Just the way we were phrasing would be different. It's rhetorical.
Speaker: Oh, okay. That's just letting him know where the the where the conversation could go. ah And so he'll probably just leave. Because that's what I'm saying. Are he go you going to pull of Rick Ross?
Speaker: He's just going to get up and go. He's going to get up and go. He's going to take his mic off. He's going to get up and go. Because I'm just going to be like, hey, so why are you horrible? Okay. Why are you the worst person that I've ever personally encountered in my life?
Speaker: That you personally encounter. Yes. Yes. I get that. Yeah. ah Completely changing topic. No good segue. Ladies and gentlemen, don't know how this show is going to go. My sister is tired. I'm tired. I got like three hours of sleep last night. yeah We just, and we're about to get close to our vacation. So I'm not saying we mailing it in, but maybe. We're phoning sure. Yeah. yeah Pink Pillar X. We've talked about this podcast before. It's a husband and wife. They talk about basically patriarchy issues news and in realization. They had a really good, interesting question on a clip that I saw the other day.
Speaker: And the main takeaway was patriarchy is saying you have a boyfriend and that stops men faster than saying no So when men approach women, women saying, I have a boyfriend, that's going to get men to stop quicker than a woman just saying no.
Speaker: Yeah. Because it's about respect. They respect another man. They don't respect her no. They brought up something interesting. The respect is not respecting another man.
Speaker: It's respecting another man's quote-unquote possession or territory. Yeah. Because that's how patriarchy works. Right. yeah It is. yeah It is not like, oh because we don't know do.
Speaker: We don't know do. But we know that somebody has planted a flag here already. And so that's OK. This has already been discovered. Cool. a Move on. I mean, but some guys don't even care about that. Like that used to be the go to rejection response is like, oh, I got I got somebody already.
Speaker: a lot of a lot of times the response is, oh, you can't have friends. Like, they'll still find a way to try to worm their way in there. There's really no good a response except to act crazy.
Speaker: Just start acting literally insane and scare them off. that's There's no other... There's no foolproof way. But that's absolutely right. Like...
Speaker: There is zero respect for a woman's no. Zero. Yeah. You know who else don't have respect for women? i went This diddly-daddling, we're just going all over the place, right? So you know who else doesn't have respect for women?
Speaker: Who? Our current president. Have you seen what's going on with the Kennedy Center the last couple of days? No. All right. So there was another lawsuit by a Black woman who's on the Kennedy committee or chair or council whatever. Yeah, she's on the board. or Board, thank you. yeah She's on the board and she's filing these lawsuits because Trump keeps trying and somehow, some fashion to put his name up there. And he's been denied several times. Several times, yes. So finally, there was another lawsuit, and they won, saying... I don't know what his obsession is with this, though, by the way. I know what it is. i know what it is
Speaker: I'll say it in a minute. But another lawsuit, she won, saying he can't put his name up there. It's illegal. It has to be approved by Congress.
Speaker: He's saying we're just going to close the Kennedy Center. It's in debt any anyway. It's about to go bankrupt. We're going close it. Plus, we need renovations. I got $17 million in my own money through fundraising for for ah for renovations. But y'all going to have to you know thank me for it. And the thanking for it is to allow his name to go up.
Speaker: So my man closed Kennedy Center. And also the reason why it's bankrupt is because he wanted to put his name on the Kennedy Center and people started canceling shows. People started to ask for refunds for their tickets because they didn't want. So that's the reason why the Kennedy Center is about to go bankrupt. So it's closed right now because he can't get his name up there.
Speaker: That's disgusting. I mean, the Kennedy Center has been a cultural... institution for so long. I've been there several times. We used to go and see alvin Ailey every February. And it's just it's li's just disgusting. This is a cultural institution.
Speaker: That literally has nothing to do with him except for the fact that he has he has personally run an institution into bankruptcy. mom That is his claim to frame. But it's not like that's not on brand. Mm-hmm.
Speaker: That's what he He deb be will bankrupt. Boy, he'll bankrupt something in a New York woman. Yeah. In New York Minute, yeah. One last thing with this Daily Dial-In segment that I want to get to, I want to ask you about, because you deal in the world with AI. I i do as well, but I just be playing with it. You actually... you you know it, you studied it in a school, and you understand it. So there's been a call from all the heads, or the majority of the heads of these AI companies, Anthropic, who owns ChatGPT?
Speaker: Open AI. Open AI, et cetera, et cetera. Calling for international regulations to put a stop on the pace in which AI is progressing. Because they're saying, hey, look, it's but it's going to progress faster than we can control it, and we're only a couple of years away from that. And once we can't get our hands on it, all bets there are off.
Speaker: We can have a real life, this is me paraphrasing, a real life Skynet situation. Some people are saying, oh that's hyperbolic. That's not going really happen. And I'm like, wait a minute. If if the heads of these companies who have an incentive yeah to shut up so they can make the most amount of money as they can are calling for guardrails so that we can stop this competition that had the best AI compared to China, right? This is what they're saying. Internationally, we need to bring in guardrails.
Speaker: if these people are saying, hey, this is serious problem, it's not a hoax. It's not make-believe. This is something that could seriously happen. And I just find it amazing that people are just like, well, not to shit on our president again, but he said it's a hoax and that it's going to bring a lot of money to people. Again, a person who has no idea, who finds AI images and believes that they're real, even when their images of him As like a saint or something like that. like He finds these images and reposts them as if they're real things.
Speaker: Someone who I am, I'm probably 85% sure, does not know what AI stands for. No, he's got to know what AI stands for. AI has been in the Lexicon for like decades. I am positive he does not know it stands for artificial intelligence. I i would i would love for a reporter to be like, sir, can you tell me what AI stands for? I would love to see that happen and see what the the answer to that is. So if that's the barometer, it's in hell.
Speaker: Well, ah look, I was seeing news reports and there's been all types of protests to try and stop these data centers from going up. and And I'm somebody who just absolutely loves AI, loves AI, makes my life so much easier. But yeah, i I'm also destroying the world by the amount yeah that I use it because I use it a lot. And I've been using it for...
Speaker: Like, I'm trying to figure out financial stuff, right? And I'm like, I could just do the math myself. I'm like, you know what? I don't feel like it. Let me just throw it in the claw. Claw gonna figure this all all out for me. yeah And I'm just like, well, maybe that's a, you know, that's some damaged water supply, and things of that nature. And there are protests going all around because people are like, hey, look,
Speaker: These data centers, one, going drop up our energy costs. Two, going to destroy the environment. And three, it's only a matter of time before we have like a shortage of water and people are going to have to start rationing water. And I can't live that way because that means I can't take as many showers as I need.
Speaker: You're right. Yeah, they're not wrong, but also them data centers are going up. Like, that's... yeah we can We can talk about, like, how can we make them green? How can we reduce the, the you know, ecological footprint of these data centers? like Like, we can have that conversation, but the technology is moving forward and them data centers are going up, y'all. Like, they're going up.
Speaker: Like... there It's moving so quickly. they need They need the space. They need the the power. They need the capacity to run these things. And that is just, nobody loved the first, you know, power plant.
Speaker: You know? Nobody, I mean, love it, you know? And then next thing you know, they're up everywhere. Factories and all kinds of things, like, are up everywhere.
Speaker: i just, I think we can talk about how can we do this keeping the planet and our resources in mind.
Speaker: That's a worthwhile conversation. But to just say we don't want them at all, that's It's just not going to happen. Yeah, no. Data centers are here to stay. AI is here to stay. And I'm all for putting guardrails on it because I don't want Skynet to really exist. But I also don't want my AI to go away because then I have to go back to like doing work seriously again.
Speaker: i don't want to do that. Life is too much easier with Claude. Claude is my friend. It's such a time saver that I just don't, ah you know, no. It's such a time save. Like, think about just the the transition in, like, communication, right? When we started with written letters. And now you send an email. Now you send a text.
Speaker: You know what i mean? And it's just about, yeah, I could write you a letter. but it's no longer convenient. And so if that's the same thing ah with AI, it's like, yeah, I could do this stuff on my own, but it's no longer convenient to do so.
Speaker: Right. Speaking of being convenient, sometimes standing up for a cause is worthy. It's not convenient, but it's necessary.
Speaker: What am I talking about? I'm talking about Ms. Rachel. We're going to get into that next.
Speaker: So let's talk about Miss Rachel. If you had a toddler in the last five years, you know the pink headband, the slow voice, the hop little bunnies. She is, for millions of kids, the most trusted face on the screen.
Speaker: And her hero, the person she says she wants to be, is Mr. Rogers. But there are two people here. There's Miss Rachel, who teaches your baby to say mama. And then there's Rachel Akuso, a mom from Maine who looked at starving children in Gaza and decided she could not stay quiet.
Speaker: And that one decision turned her life into a war zone. She has been accused of spreading propaganda. A watchdog group accused the department, asked the Department of Justice to investigate her. She's gotten death threats. Her family has needed security for singing to kids.
Speaker: And this conversation is going to get uncomfortable for some because we gonna talk about Gaza. We're gonna talk about antisemitism. We're gonna talk about Israel.
Speaker: But, Jay, I don't know if you've been paying attention, but Miss Rachel saw that some kids in Gaza yeah were watching her show.
Speaker: That was to calm them down because they're in a war zone. They're dying, left and right, right? And she made it a point to start speaking out. for the people of Gaza, but especially the children.
Speaker: And boy, oh boy, oh boy, is she catching flack. Now, to be clear, she's not doing this on the shows that she does for kids. These are on her personal social media platforms, right? That she's speaking out. Whether it's threads, TikTok, Instagram, not on the show that she's producing for kids.
Speaker: But people still have an issue with it. What do you think? Well, we have a track record in this country of not caring for kids. So having somebody speak out on behalf of children, especially children going through something that honestly our children, we could not fathom.
Speaker: You know, yes, our country has its own share of problems, but we're not we're not living in a war zone. Right. You know what I'm saying? And so, and these are children. These are their formative years.
Speaker: And they're growing up in... in
Speaker: Just, I honestly, there's really no word for the kind of devastation that they're seeing, witnessing <unk> happening to them.
Speaker: And i don't know when it is ever wrong to advocate for children.
Speaker: Like, i i'm ah please explain to me. When is it ever wrong to say we need to protect children?
Speaker: Why is that? That shouldn't be that should be like a universal thing that honestly we all agree on that children deserve to grow up safe, healthy, healthy.
Speaker: and with the the same accesses to to resources and spaces as everybody else. I don't understand why this is a difficult concept to wrap your mind around and that we as adults are the ones that are responsible for these children. All of us. We all are. We're all responsible for the well-being of these kids.
Speaker: And so the fact that you can, I'm sure you're going to get ah much deeper into exactly who is targeting her and then what they're doing. But the fact that you can look at someone saying, hey, man, kids really should grow up in a safe environment.
Speaker: Kids really don't deserve to be the innocent bystanders of a political or or a cultural war, right? Like, children shouldn't be the the innocent victims, these innocent bystanders. Like, that like that they should they should be exempt from these kinds of things.
Speaker: Should be. But we've seen that that they don't really care. Kids are thrown in cages, separated from their parents, don't have school lunch. So you would say morally, yes, we should care about kids because they all talk about kids when they're not born.
Speaker: Oh, yeah yeah. That's a big difference. But when on this earth, it's kind of like, oh, whatever. you over Yeah. yeah i I feel like you could have real questions about, real hard questions about A contested conflict and is still stop at why a preschool teacher saying don't starve children, don't kill children would be the thing that people needs to burn down. Like, like right ah you have to look at that, right? Like, what is she doing?
Speaker: Right. Don't starve kids. Advocate. Don't kill kids. Yes. That should be a baseline. Honestly, I say this all the time.
Speaker: I feel like I just said it earlier about something else, but the bar is in hell. Yeah. It's in hell. That should be the baseline, baseline human moral, like, value that we all can rally around. And that is we should be protecting kids. Yeah.
Speaker: A lot of people are gonna be like, I know who Ms. Rachel is, but i don't really know her background. Don't worry, I did the research for you. Her son Thomas had a serious speech delay. The therapy that worked ran about $175 a session. She noticed he picked up more when he could rewatch lessons on video. So she asked her husband, who was a Broadway composer, to film a few. That was all the way back in 2019. Then COVID locked everyone inside, and then she decided to start a channel. Now 20 million-plus subscribers, a Netflix deal, a Sesame Street collab, Toys at Target, and a debut album that's coming out September 25th, right?
Speaker: Mm-hmm. Once again, the show has zero politics. Right. The show is about kids. I said it at top. Her hero, Mr. Rogers. I'm going to make the connection later. But Mr. Rogers, right?
Speaker: In late 2023, she started seeing clips of Palestinian kids in refugee camps watching her show to calm down. She has a documented history of fundraising for kids in the Sudan area.
Speaker: you Ukraine and the U.S. immigration dissent and detention centers too. Gaza is not a one-off for her. she this is This is her lane. This is what she does. she doesn't want She didn't wander into this. She's been advocating for kids in trouble for years. Gaza is just the next one in her road for advocating for kids. yes So when I give people this,
Speaker: information her hero being mr rogers it all started just to help her son and she realized by helping her son she could help other kids and blew up and if you've ever watched an episode and i and i tried to watch a couple of clips earlier today it is it is a ripoff is is not the right word that want to use a copy a copy of Mr. Rogers. and It's an homage.
Speaker: There you go. Thank you. You better with words than I am. You know what saying? An homage. An homage to Mr. Rogers. Who, once again, only wanted to help the kids. Only wanted to help the kids.
Speaker: Wanted to help kids navigate tough situations. Also, Mr. Rogers, ah ah ah and also an advocate for children, all children,
Speaker: You know, making sure that he had people of different races and religions and backgrounds on his show so that kids could see themselves represented. He was not some passive person.
Speaker: Mr. Rogers was not passive. He was putting his money where his mouth was and he was walking the walk and talking the talk, okay? And the same way that Miss Rachel is doing.
Speaker: You know what he was? What was he? He was a person that called himself a Christian and lived like a real Christian. Yeah. Like, he didn't, it wasn't just talk. It wasn't talk. He he walked the walk. Yeah.
Speaker: And that is not an easy thing to do. No. It isn't, especially when you have eyes on you because you're a celebrity. So it's not an easy thing to do. And, you know, again, like it's like you said, she is keeping her platforms separate. Her professional platform and her personal platform, she's keeping them separate. Y'all want to conflate the two.
Speaker: when she hasn't done that. But also, again, i really am having a hard time with what is the problem with advocating for the safety of children.
Speaker: well I'm to tell you what the critics are saying. The critics are saying that her concern is one-sided and that she ignored the rarely kids killed on or taken on October 7th and has shared inflated death numbers. She worked with a pilot Palestinian photojournalist, and critics said that amounted to boasting an anti-Semitic figure.
Speaker: A Fox writer this week said flat out she's an activist, not a humanitarian. Her side is she only shared the figures from sources like the Mm-hmm. She's had reps in the Congress defend her, saying a teacher speaking enough for starving kids is not anti-Semitism. Yeah. One fellow nominee pointed out to her own Holocaust survivor family and said the vow of never again has to apply to every child.
Speaker: Yeah. There was something a while ago on her Instagram where she liked something that was anti-Semitic, but she gave an apology for that and said that it was an accident. She didn't mean to like it. It was something like she was trying to delete it or it was she didn't she didn't mean to like the comment, but everybody took that and ran. Yeah. because She's defending Palestinian kids in Gaza.
Speaker: and ah and And didn't say anything about Israeli kids on October the 7th, which I don't know if that's true or not. don't know that's true or not either. But, you know, they don't care if it's true or not.
Speaker: Yeah. The people the people who are who are attacking her do not care if that's true or not. yeah but I would be surprised if they've even looked into, really actually looked into her stance and her advocacy and her humanitarian work to date. Like, I would be very surprised if they did their research in the way that you did your research. Yeah, to say that you are an activist, not humanitarian, I guess I would be an activist for saving kids. I don't i don't know how that's necessarily a bad thing either.
Speaker: Yeah, I don't understand how... are They're not mutually exclusive. Well, the the implication by the Fox writer, once again, Fox, okay, was that this isn't a humanitarian. This is an activist pushing Palestinian, and what they love to say is Hamas propaganda.
Speaker: Yeah, rare. Because if you defend Hamas, Gaza children, somehow you're defending Hamas. And oh boy, am my my closing monologue, I'm going to attack all that. I might get canceled, but I'm to say what I'm going to say. It's my show, so I don't care.
Speaker: Children are not political pawns. Yeah. Well, shouldn't be. They shouldn't be. Children have nothing to do with the conflicts of adults.
Speaker: And i can advocate for the health and well-being of children everywhere, regardless of what regime they live under or regardless of the political climate of where they are.
Speaker: yeah That is the fact that you are conflating the two. just shows that you are not in any way approaching this in good faith and if you're already coming from a position of bad faith then i'm not even going to waste my time trying to convince you otherwise
Speaker: because you're already approaching this in bad faith yeah Like I said, she calls Fred Rogers as Mr. Rogers, her hero. She wears Mr. Rogers socks. She keeps his autograph framed in her studio. Rafi, the kid singer, defended her and said her embrace of Palestinian kids is exactly what Fred Rogers would have done. and yes That's exactly yes what he would have done.
Speaker: And here's a funny thing. This is what people forget about Fred Rogers. We remember him as a soft and safe and beloved by everybody. But the man was making statements all the way back in 1969 when he sat in front of the Senate to save public television funding.
Speaker: You know, the funding that they're cutting right now. yeah You're Mr. Rogers fan? All the way back in 1969, went before the Senate. advocating yeah for the funding.
Speaker: And in that same era when Black folks were being turned away from and attacked at segregated pools. Fred Rogers put his bare feet in a little wading pool next to a Black police officer on national TV. Yes. And the two of them cooled their feet together. That was on purpose. So here's an uncomfortable question. If Fred Rogers did that pool scene today, would half the internet call him political?
Speaker: We call it Courage Now because time made it safe. Ms. Rachel is doing the exact same thing right now. And this is before the history books can soften it. And she's finding out in real time, Courage looks like trouble.
Speaker: Yeah. So this is a this is a common thing, right? Of like... looking back on the past and now seeing like the full picture and saying and putting yourself on the right side of it but the fact of the matter is at the time
Speaker: these these folks were being targeted in the same way yeah a lot of people love to quote the Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King but if y'all remember correctly he was assassinated So there was a, it at the time, at the time, yeah, we can all look back now seeing the full picture and be like, oh, well, I definitely ah would have sided with Dr. King. Truth?
Speaker: Truth time? Like, if you really ask yourself if you were alive in that time, would you have sided with Dr. King? A lot of y'all, it would have been a strong no. Mm-hmm.
Speaker: so he was He was labeled traitor. Funny words that are still being used today. A traitor, somebody who hates America, a communist, an agitator. Meanwhile, it's the same were he was getting his ass what walking down the street.
Speaker: Right. Right. So, yeah, it' hindsight 20-20. And i feel like cut to a decade from now, we'll be looking back on this and be like, well she was right. Of course we should advocate for the health and well-being and safety of children. I would have definitely stood with her, but we living in it right now and y'all are on the wrong side of history. And there are always a ah loud and strong majority that's on the wrong side of history. And you all are those people
Speaker: That when we look at those photos from the 50s and the 60s, people being spit on, y'all are the spitters. They're spitters. Y'all are opening up the water hoses on people. Y'all are sickening the dogs on people. That is who you are. You have decided with all this history behind us in this country, you have still decided to be that antagonist. You've still decided to be the hit the the villain and be on the wrong side of history. If you can't... I'm just... I'm just... dumbfounded.
Speaker: I'm dumbfounded at the extent to which y'all refuse to listen and damn sure ain't learning. Hmm. I'm gonna... bookend this particular part of this segment before we move on to Ed Sheeran and his tour.
Speaker: Is that how you say the boy name? Ed Sheeran? Ed Sheeran? Ed Sheeran. Okay. Fred Rogers spent his whole life teaching kids that everybody is worth loving. Let me repeat that. Fred Rogers, Mr. Rogers, spent his whole life teaching kids that everybody is worth loving.
Speaker: Miss Rachel is just testing whether the grown-ups still believe it when the kid on the screen is in Gaza. Mm-hmm. Now, continuing on with Gaza, Macklemore. Macklemore.
Speaker: is tour with Esherin. Esherin has got his Luke tour that's going on right now. Macklemore was fired from the tour. He was fired from the tour because basically he said, free Palestine. And I'm going to get into that phrase later. Don't worry. I wrote something specifically.
Speaker: Okay. Because I did some research on free Palestine. But he was fired. Because he said free Palestine and the owner of the New England Patriots, you know, the guy that was caught getting a rub and tug massage, Robert Kraft, said, y'all can't bring him in here to perform in my stadiums. And then colluded with other people, other stadium owners to say, yeah, he can't come.
Speaker: So Ezrin fired him from the tour. What do you think happened to the tour? Because Ezra was like, i don't want to be political. You know what saying? I'm just going to fire him from tour. what do you think happened after that?
Speaker: I feel like a product it probably collapsed. That's exactly what happened. Because everybody that was on tour, except for Pink, everybody that was on tour dropped out as soon as Macklemore was fired.
Speaker: So, yeah, there's that whole thing that's going on. And then this is like... You can't defend people that are being... We talked about children. Mm-hmm.
Speaker: But it's a whole people. There's a whole group of people, Palestinians in Gaza, that are being wiped out. Yeah. There's no sugarcoat way to say it. There isn't.
Speaker: What Hamas, a group in Gaza, right did on October the 7th is horrible. Right. No, there's no denying.
Speaker: ah It's one of the worst things that's ever happened. Horrible. We're coming up on the third year anniversary on October Yeah. yeah It's been three years of bombing and destruction in Gaza, stopping doctors from getting in there to help the kids and the people that are being blown to bits.
Speaker: Yeah. And so people are like, hey, man, eventually it gets to the point where you won. It's time to stop. Yeah. And it's the people are being killed. And I'm not hearing too much about Hamas leaders.
Speaker: being killed as much as I am innocent people. Mm-hmm. And so people are speaking up, and now that could cost you money. And Anne Sharon was like, ain't gonna cost me no bread.
Speaker: I'm gonna just go ahead and fire Macklemore. But it backfired, because everybody else left. Now, he could still do ah the tour on his own. He can. Yes. It could be him and Pink. He could do it. Yeah. But eventually, he's gonna take a hit to his popularity as well.
Speaker: Yeah. Yeah. because Because you had an opportunity to stand for something, and you chose to stand for nothing.
Speaker: Yo, his band, Esheron's own band quit on him. Mm-hmm. His own band. All right. Free Palestine. What does that phrase mean? I'm going to get into how phrases can be taken and distorted and weaponized. But I was really curious. Black lives matter. Stop stealing my clothes monologue. I'm going to get into that. I was, I forgot about me too.
Speaker: yeah I forgot. it I forgot about me too, but you're right. I wanted to understand what that meant because I have a lot of Jewish friends and sometimes I'll talk to them.
Speaker: and And I won't say anything. Like, it won't be me, but it'll be like a conversation, and but like, that's anti-Semitic. And I won't understand because I'm not Jewish. Just like sometimes people don't understand the coded language that's racist towards Black people. Like, I don't... Sometimes I don't... en so So I'm like, explain it to me. yeah So I'm thinking free Palestine is something anti-Semitic. Like, it it comes from something anti-Semitic.
Speaker: And... yeah Maybe, maybe not. So here's the history of it.
Speaker: Let's start with plain words, free. is an ordinary liberty word. And Palestine is a very old geographic name for a particular part of land.
Speaker: As a slogan, it's been picked up and repurposed by almost anyone with a stake in that land, which is exactly why it's such a slippery slope today. So the surprising and part, the an englishish the English phrase, free Palestine, did not start as a Palestinian Arab slogan at all. In the 1940s, it was a Zionist fundraising catchphrase.
Speaker: American League for Free Palestinian ran ads in major U.S. newspaper using the term Free Palestine. It was specifically to raise money from Jewish Americans for the Jewish underground that were fighting the British rule out in the area. See, people always forget Britain was was ruling over all of the Middle East. The reason why Israel is a state today is because after World War two the British was like, yo, yeah ah we don't want you here. America doesn't want you there. So we're going give you this land over here that we've been ruling over and just give it to you.
Speaker: So that's that's what happened. So... The original usage, free Palestine, meant free the land from the British and establish and established a sovereign Jewish state. That's where free Palestine originated from.
Speaker: ok Now, the Palestinian Arab version came later. Palestinians began speaking... of liberation in the 1950s and the 1960s, when the Palestinian Liberation... went to palest station When the Palestinian Liberation Organization formed in 1964, liberating Palestine became its central mission, and...
Speaker: Related and more militant slogan, from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free. Traces to the 1960s PLO era. Now that is anti-Semitic because what they're trying to, what they're saying is from the river to the sea, Palestinian will be free, is that All that area would just be Palestinians and no Jewish people. So that is anti-Semitic. But that's not the same slogan as Free Palestine, right?
Speaker: Over the decades, Free Palestine hardened into a broad rallying cry for the Palestinian national movement and its global supporters, functioning more like a Free Tibet or the old Free South Africa, a shorthand for the cause.
Speaker: Now, after September 7th, when Hamas attacked and the war... Oh, October. October 7th. That's what said. What did I say? September. Oh, well, because we're in September. October 7th, when Hamas attacked Gaza, the phrase surged worldwide in protests and on campuses and online, and that's when it became a flashpoint that it is now.
Speaker: So... Is it anti-Semitic? On its face, it is a political demand, not a statement about Jews. It reads as a call for Palestinian freedom, self-determination, human rights, and an end to the occupation.
Speaker: it's It's more of an aspirational call for freedom and human rights and peaceful coexistence. For most people who say it, it means Palestinians should have the rights and a saint, sometimes explicitly one living alongside Israel. So that's the conversation. Now, it' the Anti-Defamation League, a pro-Israel watchdog, says its own background that the slogan is similar to slogans advocating for other political causes, like Free Tibet Save Amazon and things like that.
Speaker: And that's from the ADL, but other people also say that the phrase is a bit ambiguous and at the worst, a cover. So who chants it, ah meaning the elimination of Israel as a Jewish state, is not coexisting. So Arab militant version of the river to the sea gets translated as Palestinian as Arab. And then that gets mixed in with free Palestine. And so when people call, when people mix in from river to the sea and free Palestine,
Speaker: then it could come off as anti-Semitic. But the fact of the matter is there isn't a clear answer. It's always the interpretation of the yeah person that's saying it.
Speaker: most The large majority of people believe that it's a call for freedom. Like I said, free Tibet or free South Africa and things of that nature. But if you're Jewish and you've and you're and you living in Israel,
Speaker: and you've heard militants, ah Arab militants say from river to sea, along with free Palestine grouping it in together, yeah you'll you'll say, well, that's an anti-Semitic phrase.
Speaker: So... What's the answer? There is no answer. There is no answer. It's all about the messenger. But I, as a Black man, don't feel like I can really comment on how people should take certain things because I would never want somebody to...
Speaker: Say, well, I don't feel like what I just said, you should take it that way. You know what I mean? Yeah, because, I mean, I feel like the same kind of arguments can be made for some of our slogans, like like Black power, right? And really, it's a response, right, to the the phrase white power.
Speaker: it is ah It is in response to that. but a lot But you can look at it or you can look at things like Black Lives Matter. You can look at different things like that and say, well, this is exclusionary or it's discriminatory. So you can, there's two sides, like things can be viewed through the, it's all about perception. It's going to be viewed through the lens of the person who's receiving it. And so if you are already seated in a position as a, as a, as a Jewish person, that anything coming out of Palestine is antisemitic, then it really doesn't matter what they say. Mm-hmm.
Speaker: That anything pro-Palestine in is going to be equated to anti-Semitism.
Speaker: If that is the lens that you're choosing to view it through. So, and sometimes you might be right and sometimes you might be wrong. Yeah, it's not to say that Free Palestine hasn't been used in anti-Semitic acts because there is clear documentation of attacks against Jewish people within the last three years since October the 7th where those attackers will say free Palestine. Now, it's the bad actors that changed the meaning of the phrase. Yeah.
Speaker: And should that be used as a majority and I feel like if you say, man, hey, look, these people should have the freedom, because they're in an occupied territory right now. Gaza is occupied, is a military-occupied territory, and has been since the 60s.
Speaker: A military-occupied territory. To say that they should have freedom shouldn't be saying that Jewish people shouldn't exist. i I don't understand the parallel, but once again, I'm not Jewish. And I'll be damned if somebody tells me as a Black man how I should feel when somebody is talking about my race. So I'm not saying that anybody is right or wrong, but there needs to be space to...
Speaker: criticize the state of Israel and not ah automatically connect that to criticizing the Jewish people in Israel or Jewish people at large.
Speaker: Right. Correct. if I criticize America, the country, and the political machines and the movements that that are part of it. I'm not criticizing all Americans. I'm criticizing the institution and the country of America.
Speaker: How often all the time are those things conflated? All the time. That my criticism of my country and that the political machine means to the people who are determined to misunderstand me means that I hate this country. Mm-hmm.
Speaker: No, the fact that I'm criticizing it is a testament to how much I love it because I know that it has the capacity to be better. And if I wasn't saying anything, if I wasn't speaking up, it's because I already believe in my heart that this is the best we gonna be.
Speaker: And I don't think that that's true. I think that we have the capacity to be even better. And we can do that by starting to point out what's wrong and hold people accountable.
Speaker: You can do both. You can love your country and also hold accountable the people that you put in power to represent you. In fact, you should do both.
Speaker: Yeah. ah ah ah So to Robert Kraft and all those people that that shut down the stadium because he said free Palestine, I just want to say, what are you doing for the children of Gaza?
Speaker: What are you doing for the children of Israel? That's another thing. They might be lot of donating their money to causes to Israel. They might be because they're very pro-Israel.
Speaker: But that you can be pro-Israel and pro-Palestinian people as well. You can just be pro-people. Yeah, you can just believe that people, that innocent innocent bystanders, that just the the citizens of ah of a country have the right to live in peace and safety, not just from people on the outside, but people inside too.
Speaker: That they should also be able to live ah not under anyone's tyranny. no matter where it comes from. I don't see how that, how is that an insane thing to think?
Speaker: That people should be allowed to be self-determinant, that people should ah be allowed to live in peace, to not have to witness her or or have, to not have to witness or live through horrific violence,
Speaker: Like, how is that controversial? I don't want anyone living in a war. I don't want anyone living in war.
Speaker: Because these are powerful people, this political machine, right, that are making all of these decisions. But we are the ones that carry the scars of the decision.
Speaker: And there is no justice in that. Yeah, equality
Speaker: to some seems like oppression.
Speaker: All right, Jay, time to lighten the mood. We was heavy. We was heavy, heavy. yeah Now let's make fun of ourselves. Okay. This segment is doing things in your 40s that you did in your teens and your 20s. And the reason why I came up with this is there's a content creator, can't remember his name.
Speaker: I'll find some other way to source him in other episodes. But he he always does stuff where he's like, that I used to do this back in day. And the clip I saw earlier today was he was going roller skate, right? is He's in his 40s and he was going roller skate. He put the roller skates on, and all of a sudden, you just saw his ghost ahead. And when the camera came back, he was down on the ground. He was like, all I did was put him on and move forward. the Things that you do now, the things that you used to do back in the day, you can't do now.
Speaker: Yeah. And I'm humbled every day I go to the gym because I'm like, oh, used to be able to do this and I can't do it anymore. I quit basketball. I quit basketball, playing pickup basketball after my boy blew out his knee. Walked off the court that day and retired. So what are some of the things that that you've tried to do recently that you did in your 20s and your teens in your 20s? And you're like, nah, that this is over.
Speaker: I'm going to give you the main one, the main one that trips up middle-aged folks like us. Like this the main one. And I don't even try it because I know that this is the main thing that we just cannot do anymore.
Speaker: And that is hop down.
Speaker: You're right. From anywhere. You're right. down. You cannot, the way our knees and hips and back work, you can't hop down from nothing.
Speaker: You think, I'm going to hop down real quick. Don't you do it. You better take your time and gingerly climb down. and You can't hop down from nothing.
Speaker: No. now well I saw a clip of a guy that's around our age. He's a millennial. And he was like, he grabbed some hypnotic. Oh, no. grabbed some Hennessy.
Speaker: No. And he said, y'all don't know nothing about this. This is Incredible Hulk. haven't had this in 20-plus years, but I'm to try it. Don't do it And it didn't end up well for him. No. Didn't end up. We can't drink the things that we used to drink in our teens and 20s. I used it.
Speaker: I drank my first drink of choice. It was Mad Dog 2020. Now, how everybody knows it's Mad Dog 2020, but that's technically not the name, is MD 2020. But even our parents was like, oh, you drinking Mad Dog? I was like, yeah y'all know about Mad Dog?
Speaker: Yeah. so So, Mad Dog 2020. If you gave me a Mad Dog 2020 right now, no I would throw up. You know how I know? Because me and my ex-wife one Sunday decided we was going to get some Four Locos.
Speaker: No. That's worse. We decided we was going to sit and watch Sunday football and get some Four Locos. That was... that We almost died.
Speaker: Yeah. Every day for seven days. And we only drank one. That's not a good idea. I've seen the the ones where people to try to go back now in our age and and and drink it an incredible home. And no, there's just no way.
Speaker: We used to be able to do it. Our bodies don't work the same anymore. Yeah. Can't do it anymore. You know something else I can't do anymore? What's that? Remember when you was young?
Speaker: And maybe you was college, maybe in high school, maybe you was out partying, and you would go to little fast food joint, two, three o'clock in the morning, and get you something eat. Yeah, every time I do that, i I greatly pay for it the next day. Yeah. When you're young, your stomach is like a steel trap. Mm-hmm.
Speaker: And you can put all manner of junk food in it. I have watched my nieces and nephews inhale an obscene amount of candy in their teens and theirre and their their teenagers and their other Obscene amounts of junk food and candy. And they about as thin as, i don't i don't understand it.
Speaker: But the way my stomach doesn't tolerate 90% of things anymore. Yeah. I mean, it just won't tolerate it. It's like, hey, why did you even try this?
Speaker: Let's just go ahead and get that right on back out.
Speaker: but You just got your masters. Yes. How many all-nighters did you pull? Very few. yeah Because I don't know. What I will do is I'll spend all day Saturday and Sunday studying. What I'm not going to do is stay up late.
Speaker: Yeah. I can't do it. I literally cannot function the next day. Yeah. I'm not going to stay up late for no... I had a friend celebrating her birthday. Oh, yeah, we're going meet at the spot. I was like, cool, what time? 11 p.m.?
Speaker: No. I'm up drinking a cup of coffee at 10 o'clock at night trying to take get some energy to go do this because you're out of your mind. I'm home and in bed already by 11, which means I left the function at 10.
Speaker: which means I was packing up to go at 9.30, which means I got there at 7. And so if you're telling me we meeting at 9.11, you're going be meeting yourself.
Speaker: This is something I did in my 30s, but I could not do it now. and a road trip without stopping at all. Mm-mm. Because my bladder can only be held... I have a hard time holding my bladder throughout a movie. And not because I got prostate issues, ladies gentlemen. It's because I drink more than a gallon of water. I drink, like, two gallons of fluid every day. Yeah. A gallon and a half of water and a gallon of tequila. But... and Half a gallon of tequila. But... yeah The road trip, that time that I drove you drove with you down to Georgia and I just drove the whole way and I was like, we ain't got to stop. Let's just keep going. That's a 10-hour drive. No, I'm going to two hours and I got to get out. I got to stretch my legs. My back going start hurting.
Speaker: My left hip will lock up. There's no way I can sit for that amount of time. You absolutely know. The answer is no. You know something else that I've come into grips with in my 40s, and it's the reason why I'm selling my Jordans, some of them. I'm not getting... Some of them are collectors that have sentimental value. I won't get rid of them. But there's no reason for me to have 30 or 40 pairs of Jordans, especially ones that I haven't worn for four years. And I'm realizing...
Speaker: chasing the fashion trend, I'm past that. We're not doing it. Because what ends up happening is you don't look trendy. You just look like the old person trying to be trendy.
Speaker: and And honestly, what I prioritize was now in terms of clothing is not anything I even considered in my teens and 20s. And that's comfort and utility. Like, does it have enough pockets? and Can I wear it all day?
Speaker: You know what I'm saying? Can I wear it all day at work and then go to happy hour and it and I still be comfortable? I don't feel restricted. Like, that's comforting you. I didn't think about those things, especially not when we were business casual in the club in the early You always bring up the business casual.
Speaker: That's your favorite thing. We were at very uptight. We was just stylish. You can call it that. I don't think we were at all. If you go back and look at the photos, we weren't. We weren't.
Speaker: We weren't. We weren't at all. It was really ugly. I recently had a friend ask me to do this about a year ago. And when she asked me, she's in her mid-30s. And when she asked me, I was like, you know I'm in my mid-40s, right?
Speaker: Right. Can you help me move? No. Move as in how? No. She's like, no, all the big stuff is going to be moved. It's just a few boxes. i was like, okay.
Speaker: All right. I'm at a hire somebody age. Yeah, ah well, she was like, it was moving into an expensive place. I was like, okay, I got it. All right, it's just a few boxes, no big deal. I get there.
Speaker: She's like, oh, I have food and champagne everything and everything. was like, all right, champagne, you got me. You got me. Plus, she was my homie. I was going to help her anyway. I get there, and I was like, all right, so where are the boxes? She was like, actually, first we need to move this bed and these couches. And I said, see? This is what I'm, see? See?
Speaker: say And the person that was helping was older than I was. And I was like, we too old for this. And I said, I love you. This is the last time I'm ever going to help you. Next time I'm going to be like, sorry.
Speaker: Yeah. You're a pretty woman. Go grab some men off the street and just be like, hey, can you guys help me? They'll help. Yeah. They'll help. I'm not helping nobody move. i don't even want to move myself. I got to clean some stuff out of my storage unit.
Speaker: I don't even want to do that. I want to pay somebody just to move the stuff in my storage unit. And it ain't nothing but a motorcycle helmet, some old Xbox boxes that don't have nothing in it, and ah and a lawn chair. That's it. But I don't even feel like doing that.
Speaker: Yeah. That's another thing. Because you better than me, I would have left. That's another thing that I... I don't do in my 40s that I used to do in my teens and 20s, and that's go back and forth. I'm not going to do it. yeah I'm not going to back and forth. You told me I'm coming here to move some boxes.
Speaker: And now that the now that the scope of this has changed, I then get to make a decision about whether or not I'm going continue to participate. And you out, huh? And I'm out.
Speaker: I wasn't going leave my friend in the lurch, but I told again. No, I agreed to one thing. Yeah. You switched up on me. And I'm not going go back and forth. You know something I learned? Mm-hmm.
Speaker: I was dating a woman. She had younger sons. They were like six to seven, right? And we was wrestling around. Mm-hmm. I hurt myself.
Speaker: Yeah. Because it was like, pick me up. I'm big and strong. Pick me up. Pick me up. Pick me up. I picked them up and I said, hey, and I think I pulled some up. Because picking up weights, picking up weights is a whole lot different than picking up a person.
Speaker: Yes. a a moving because because children don't stay still they be like pick me up pick me up and you pick them up they wiggling it's hard to hold that 60 70 80 pounds okay yeah i'm not roughhousing with nobody no more i used to be my favorite thing now i don't do that no more that's another thing i don't fight my teens and t twentyies you scrap I'll be ready to scrap, ready to throw down. Now I'm just going to call the police and my attorney. I'm not fighting with you.
Speaker: I am too old for that. I got about a good two and a half minutes of fight in me. a And then that's it. I have to beat you immediately.
Speaker: yeah And I'm not willing to take that risk of of catching an L Because I'm out here fighting at 40-something years old. How old am I? 42 years old. Yeah, you're 42. I ain't doing it.
Speaker: Yeah, I wouldn't do it either. I'm not trying to do that. I threw some punches in the gym, just shadow boxing. I was like, did I just pull something my lower back? Like, my shoulder blade is on fire now. Right.
Speaker: On fire. ah But anyway, Jay, what do you want to tell this people before we get out of here?
Speaker: I'm going to go back to the heavy stuff because it just is on my heart. Okay.
Speaker: If you... If you honestly have any reservations about protecting the lives and the well-being of children, if you if there is anything...
Speaker: that would make you go on our way, maybe we shouldn't care about the lives and well-being of children. I have literally nothing to say to you.
Speaker: There is, there is, I don't know if you're redeemable. Because that should be the basic, the most basic foundational thing that we believe and hold as a value as adults.
Speaker: is that the vulnerable ones in our society are owed our protection because they did not ask to be here. Yeah. We brought them here, and now we're asking them to fend for themselves.
Speaker: It's bullshit. Well, for me, i know y'all are out there listening and probably thinking, Bruce, your closing monologues always seem to come back to the same damn topic.
Speaker: And you ain't lying because they do. And I'm going to keep preaching it because I genuinely believe this is one of the most important things that we need if we're going to actually have intellectual thought.
Speaker: And the word is nuance. Because we've gotten way too comfortable taking complicated issues, turning them into good people versus bad people, right versus wrong, us versus them. And once you do that,
Speaker: You're not thinking anymore. You're just picking a side. And we've seen this happen over and over and over again. Take Black Lives Matter, as my sister said earlier, right? That's what I was going to talk about on this closing monologue. The basic idea that Black people should not be killed or treated unfairly because they're Black somehow got twisted into meaning anti-white.
Speaker: Stay woke. Originally meant being aware, paying attention, understanding what was happening around you. Now woke gets thrown around as an insult for somebody who's supposedly weak or overly sensitive.
Speaker: That's what happens when ideas get stripped of their meaning and weaponized. And there's a long history of people taking noble ideas about equality, freedom, and justice and turning them into something people are afraid of to even engage with.
Speaker: And that's exactly why we're watching with the Free Palestine. The phrase means different things to different people. For some, it means Palestinian freedom and self-determination.
Speaker: For others, it means the elimination of Israel.
Speaker: That's anti-Semitic if you're meaning it as the elimination of Israel. There's no black and white discussion on that. Right. But instead of asking, what does this person mean when they say free Palestine? We decide what they mean before they even get a chance to explain for themselves.
Speaker: And let me be clear about something. Nuance does not mean pretending everything is equally valid. There are things people do that are absolutely wrong. There are atrocities that happen throughout human history that should be condemned without hesitation.
Speaker: But even when something is absolutely wrong, there's still value in understanding how people got there. That's not excusing it. That's not defending it. That's understanding it. Because if you want to prevent an atrocity from happening again, you have to understand the role that led people to commit it.
Speaker: What did they believe? What did they fear? What did they convince themselves was justified? What happened in their society that made the unthinkable become acceptable?
Speaker: And those are uncomfortable questions. But those questions, they teach us something. As a historian, I've seen over and over again what history does.
Speaker: We don't repeat history because we don't know what happened. We repeat history because we don't want to confront why it happened. We don't want to sit with the uncomfortable parts. We don't want to ask the tough questions.
Speaker: We want a villain. We want a simple explanation. We want to believe those people were just evil because if they're fundamentally different from us, then we don't have to worry about becoming them.
Speaker: But history doesn't work like that. Human beings are capable of extraordinary good and human beings are capable of extraordinary evil. Sometimes the difference is what we believe, what we were taught, what we're afraid of, and what we're willing to justify.
Speaker: That's why I keep coming back to nuance. You can say somebody is wrong. You can condemn an atrocity. You can reject an ideology and still ask, how did they get there?
Speaker: Because understanding the road doesn't mean approving of the destination. It means knowing which roads we need to stop taking. Because here's an uncomfortable part people don't want to talk about.
Speaker: If we keep weaponizing every word, every movement, every attempt at equality until people are afraid to say anything at all, we're not ah we're not protecting the conversation. We're killing it.
Speaker: And if we stop asking the uncomfortable questions because the answers make us uncomfortable, we're not learning from history. We're just waiting to repeat it. And that's why I'm going to keep preaching this.
Speaker: Not because everything is gray. Sometimes things are black and white. But because if we never have the courage to examine everything in between, we never really understand how we got from one to the other. read him over And that's the conversation.
Speaker: And that's the work. Ladies and gentlemen, I want to thank you for listening. I want to thank you for watching. And until next time, as always, I'll holler.
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