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Luke Dusenbury
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If you are a fan of hunt films then you are likely a fan of Luke Dusenbury. Luke has quickly become one of the go to videographers for some of the largest hunting companies in the industry.
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Introduction and Opening Prayer
00:00:07
Speaker
You are listening to the Tricer podcast, where we talk all things hunting, gear, and the great outdoors. Before we begin, let's start things out right and put God first. Lord Jesus, I thank you for Tricer, and I ask that you can use this podcast as a way to bring joy to all of our listeners with a Tricer and this podcast at your feet. Amen.
Meet Luke Dusenberry: Filmmaker and Hunter
00:00:31
Speaker
All right. Super excited to have the very talented Luke Dusenberry on the Tricer podcast today. I met Luke probably a couple of years ago, just through Instagram and he was looking at running some of my stuff. So we did a little trading. He got one of my tripods.
00:00:48
Speaker
And he's a super talented guy. And if you're watching Hunt Films on YouTube, you're probably watching, you've probably watched Luke's stuff. Luke is the man behind the camera. Luke is the guy who gets the nod when Brady goes on a hunt, Brady Miller, because Luke is dumb enough to hunt with Brady and
The Art of Filming Hunts
00:01:07
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chase him. And I'm excited to have you all. Luke, what's going on, bro? Sure. Thank you so much for having me, man. I'm stoked to be on the podcast.
00:01:16
Speaker
So yeah, man, I really wanted to have you all, because I really want to talk about, I want to film my hunts this year. I don't want to film my hunts because I suck and I hate filming, right? I'm the worst at content. My marketing team is just like, why wouldn't you film that? I try.
00:01:33
Speaker
But I suck like I try and get you see my stuff like I'm just like very like course I'm very like rough around the edges and that's how my filming is as well Like I try and I just can't capture the moment like you can dude Sounds like you're being a little hard yourself because I see your guys and stuff all the time on Instagram I'm like, oh, that's sick or I
The Appeal of Raw Content
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don't know. I like to cut and dry content sometimes just like
00:01:57
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When I see it, for example, like a new tripod that you guys are coming out with or some other new panhead or whatever, it's just nice sometimes. It's almost refreshing just to see like, all right, this is what it is. This is what it does. It's how much it weighs. Boom. I don't know. As a creative, I'm just like, oh, that's nice. Sometimes just to have that rough raw and real content.
00:02:14
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Yeah, I was thinking that like today, like I get too excited, right? I know Olin just launched their new adapter and they kept it so quiet for so long. And I was like talking to Nate and I'm like, Nate, how the heck to keep it so quiet for so long? Like, I just want to show everybody. Like I'm showing drawings and pictures and just like throwing it out there. And like, then they launch it with some bitch and video and it's like, it just looks like rad. And I'm just like, hey, check out this new Zulu 6 thing I'm making. Check out this new panhead I'm making.
00:02:39
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But I think people do appreciate that, I guess. So thank you for that. But it's just you get what I like with me, you see everything I have. Right. I'm not really I'm not very creative when it comes to the contents. I think that's where I'm going with that is like especially filming hunts.
00:02:52
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I just, I don't have the eye for it. So you and my mind, and most people's minds have an epic job. You have this job where I feel like
The Host's Hunting Plans and Reflections
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you're living your dream. Cause I don't know. You're hunting, filming hunts. You're also filming like some really sick, more than fishing and fishing down in Baja and your travel. I think you did fishing back in, I don't know, Maryland, but like my main right in New Hampshire. Yeah. The Holy ghost.
00:03:14
Speaker
So how did you end up here? Do you wake up one day and you decide you're just going to have these epic adventures or what happened? You're like turning down work now. Yeah. Like we were talking about before we started recording the podcast, like the Lord has just really blessed my business and your business. And it's just been awesome to see from afar. But yeah, I would say I definitely feel like I'm living the dream. Like obviously not everything is sunshine and rainbows and
00:03:40
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Sometimes the travel can be hard and sometimes I can be like quote unquote work, but I really do feel like I'm just insanely blessed and really like just living to what I'm feeling called to do, which is to do photo and video. And I've been very blessed to be able to do that for the last.
00:03:57
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Goodness. Six years, full-time? Yeah, 2018 is when I went full-time into freelance when I left college. Yeah, it's just been one crazy wild ride for people that have like followed me along since the beginning. But like I was saying, just all the opportunities I've been able to do.
00:04:15
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are pretty much if I was like to be dreaming like daydreaming or whatever in college that's when I would start really getting into photography and stuff and just having these like aspirations and hopes of dude I want to go here and do this or I want to tell this story or do that if I was to write all those down and then like to fast forward to now I would like all those dreams that I had would have pale in comparison to like what's happened if that makes sense like basically just what's happened in the last six years has blown away everything that I could have
00:04:43
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really ever hoped for and I just feel honored and blessed that that's happened. So, but yeah, so getting into what you're saying about filming your own hunts, like what kind of hunts do you have coming up this year?
00:04:57
Speaker
Dude, for one, to piggyback on what you just said, God's plan is so much bigger than our plan. So that's what's awesome to think about. It's like you had an idea, like I had an idea for Tricer, where it is today is so much better than I ever thought it was going to be. And you had an idea to do filming. And it's when you step out in faith that God really shows up and then says, no, let me show you what the master artist can do with your life and what you can do. And that's what God did there. What else do I have planned?
00:05:24
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Dude, I have nothing on the... Let me see. So right now on the books, I am definitely going to Sonora. I got that hump booked in January. Nice.
00:05:34
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I struck out in Arizona for elk, right? I definitely draw prawn horn. I'm definitely going up to Wyoming to hunt antelope. I've never killed an antelope before. I don't know if you know who Dylan Hyde is. He's like fish hunt two on Instagram. Yeah. So I'm going to go hunt with him because like I'm going to fly to Casper and then go hang out with him and then go out with him and go hunting with him up there. So that would be kind of a fun hunt. So I'm going to do that.
00:05:58
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I really want to draw a Colorado mule deer tag this year. So I think that's the hunt I want to film. It's like a Colorado mule deer hunt. And then who knows, maybe I'll draw, I'm putting it everywhere. So I'll put it in New Mexico. So if I draw one of those, maybe I'd film that. Like I'm definitely going to put him for Antelope, Oryx, Oddad, mule deer, probably pronghorn. So I'll put him for all the species in New Mexico.
00:06:22
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Right now it's going to open slate, man. And if things, everything falls apart, I'll go hunt Eastern Oregon for mule deer. Cause I have enough points to do that as well. So I have some like fallback plans, but as a bitch and hunts, nothing's really on the ticket. Very cool. Yeah. If you, if you ended up drawing Eastern Oregon, let me know. Cause I, I grew up on out there as a kid. So I can maybe help depending on the word you draw, I can maybe help putting your direction.
00:06:45
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Nice. We drew an elk tag over by Hills Canyon in one of those units over there. In my mind, I never thought Oregon could be like that gnarly.
00:06:57
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Oh, yeah. And it was every bit as gnarly as anything I've ever been to before in my life. It was just like we made some mistakes. We definitely hiked. Like we pigeonholed. I learned a lot. So like we, I had the idea like everything, you just go for everybody else, you're going to kill something. And so I hiked like down into Hell's Canyon. Oh, no. But the problem was, yeah, dude, you've seen it. The problem was,
00:07:23
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Like there was, we pigeonholed ourselves. So we couldn't really go anywhere once we were down there, right? So like, you know, we saw an elk, it was like getting to, it was gnarly. We didn't, we only ended up seeing like six elk and they were all cows, maybe a spike, I can't remember.
00:07:37
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And we had a hike out of there three days in, because it was like, Oregon only does five-day seasons. If you don't get it done, it's not like you can be like, okay, we have 10 days to get this thing done. If you pigeonhole yourself. The pressure's on. Yeah, the pressure's on. We blew it. And then we moved, and we got into a spot where we found a ton of elk. By that point, we had one day left, and we got on a bull, but it just didn't happen, right? We just didn't give ourselves the time. I learned a lot of that, huh? I learned that you don't want to pigeonhole yourself. Sometimes it's better to... If you're going to hike into something where you're committed to only that one little area, you probably shouldn't do it.
00:08:07
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Right unless you're positive
Adapting to Hunting Challenges
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that there's milk in there and also that area we could have probably if I did it again I would have stayed up on top and glass down into it and then if I saw it that went after it, right? They could have been more mobile in that unit, right? It's not always bad to work the roads
00:08:22
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Right? For sure not. And some of those units, it would have been more beneficial for me to work that ridge, come in, glass, or maybe even hike in a half mile, get to a glassing knob and glass down, then hike in, versus we hike down into this thing. And it was so, Steve, I have pictures where you're having to hold on to trees to go down.
00:08:40
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And if you let go, you were going to like die. Not stop until you hit the river. Not stop until you hit the river. So like, it was just steep. So it was a definitely learning experience, but the spot we went to after that, we saw a ton of bucks and then a bunch of elk. So I'm like, man, I want to go back and hunt deer here. And I think it's like a three point unit or four point unit. I probably think I have seven points now for deer. So I definitely can like average somebody in that hunt and go over there and hunt deer.
00:09:10
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Very cool. Yeah, I've definitely been on my share of hunts where we pigeonhole ourselves pretty hard. That's been one of the biggest things I've probably learned, especially in my personal hunts, because on personal hunts, it's not just me out there with the hunter who has spent most of the year planning and preparing and has plan A, plan B, plan C kind of planned out. So that's one thing I learned in my personal hunts is I need to have a plan B, a C, a D, and not totally pigeonhole myself.
00:09:39
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Unless it's like an area that's like tried and drew, I know it. Like the back of my hand, he scouted it, put trail cams in, all that stuff.
00:09:47
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Even then, we went elk hunting this year here in Idaho, and I put cameras in, scouted all summer, and there was elk in there every day. And then right when season came, they all went out, and I couldn't find where they went. So we had to go to a completely different part of the unit. But it was fun. We were back in there camp for two days. We didn't even see a single elk. After one of my cameras were totally full of pictures of elk, and I was just like, ah. So I had to call my bride and my best friend and my wife, because she was my wife's first time hunting with me.
00:10:16
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Like where she had a tag and I was like, all right guys, I know we hiked in here at 60 pounds on her back, but I want to pull the plug and go somewhere else. Cause it's just not worth it. Like we spent two days looking and didn't see anything and time is precious on those hunts. And especially like during honey season for me, like I just have a lot of hunts like on my calendar.
00:10:34
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and so like my personal hunting time is very limited so it's okay we're not gonna see an elk here we just need to roll with it and go to another place and so we went to another place and got into them and had one heck of
Family and Hunting: Personal Stories
00:10:44
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a season. Didn't get one my buddy got a cow but it was still like one of the funnest seasons I've ever had.
00:10:49
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Yeah, your wife, what's your wife's name? Alexa. Alexa. Yeah, Alexa. So speak to that. I could not, I've been married almost 20 years. I've been with my wife for 21 years, right? Her 20 year reunion is coming up this year for high school. We got together in senior year or junior year. Love her death, go on dates once a week, five kids together. No way are we hunting together.
00:11:16
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First of all, congratulations. That's awesome. But yeah, I don't know. I just I think I started bringing Alexa to like the Western Han Expo back in 2021.
00:11:27
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It was 2021 or 2022. I can't remember, but yeah, she had obviously seen and met people like us friends with like in the hunting industry, quote unquote, or just friends of mine that are in the hunting or even like her brother, for example, is a duck hunting and fishing guide in North Carolina. So she's like always grown up, like exposed to hunting and not like physically like firsthand doing it, but like third person. So my wife, I brought her to the Western hunting expo back in, I believe it was 2021. The first year was open after COVID and maybe 2022.
00:11:57
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I can't quite remember. But anyway, so I brought her to that and she got to expose and got to see like the hunting industry, quote unquote, like the face of it, like all different brands and the kind of like the culture and stuff. It's just like a really good way I think to like experience and to meet people as well, but just to get a whole experience with the hunting industry, like looks and feels like right now.
00:12:16
Speaker
And I've been very blessed and fortunate to get to know quite a few people in it. So I get to see a lot of people there and reconnect, but also introduce them to Alexa and stuff like that. And she just got to see, got to see a couple of my photos, like on posters or booths and stuff. And so I was like, cool for her to see that. Yeah. So she's, I think I'll get into it and fast forward to that fall at Elkhart in Oregon. And she wanted to go with us in backpack and camp and go off trail hike your dead fall, do the whole nine yards. And she's in
00:12:44
Speaker
Really good shape and like really loves like backpacking hiking has done that a lot, but like not a lot of off-trail stuff So I was like prepping her I was like, okay We need to get just like some good boots a good backpack and if you can totally like you're physically fit enough to do it But it's it's gonna be more so a mental thing like I've seen pretty physically fit people like go and do this and it's a lot It's just as much physical as his mental so I was trying to prepare him mentally for that and it definitely was like a hard hunt like
00:13:13
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I could spoil it. We didn't really see many elk besides the first few days and we hiked a lot of miles and it was steep and gnarly and thick, but we had great friends we were out there hunting with and it ended up being more of a boat hiking mission, but it still was a lot of fun and she was hooked and we had some great... We had a couple of really close encounters on day one, but it was just a great experience overall and she was definitely hooked after that.
00:13:37
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Yeah, as far as secrets on how to get your wife into hunting, I don't know. My wife just naturally was into it. Her brother's a hunting guide and fishing guide in North Carolina, so she's been exposed to it through her family over the years.
00:13:50
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I don't know. It's just something she wanted to organically express. I never wanted to force her to do it or anything like that. I just was doing it on my own and she just showed interest and wanted to join in on it. So yeah, now she's a killer. She shot a bear this year with her bow and yeah, she's totally hooked. Yeah. That's your head. Yeah. My wife is like, that's your thing. I'm good with that.
00:14:13
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Yeah. Which is totally okay too. Yeah. Like I took them on a Kuzjiran at one time and like they say, I brought the trailer out. I have a lance, a really nice travel trailer.
00:14:25
Speaker
And they were miserable. Like she looks, we go to the desert, we camp in the desert. We do that as a family. We do, we go to Camp Grazie beach camp all the time. But yeah, the hunting thing, she says, yeah, I'm good. Bring me to a campground, bring me some more showers, where there's toilets, where we can go to the store and get pizza. Like I don't want to be able to know where, like I want those amenities.
00:14:45
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Yeah, it's not definitely not her thing, which is fine. I guess it's just not everybody's thing. I have five kids and I'm still trying to figure out like my, I have my boys hunting since they were in four or five years old. And like my 17 year old, I'm like, he couldn't, he didn't really go out on his own this year at all. I'm like, I don't know if he's gonna, he's really gonna, I brought, unless I'm, you'd only drive into water for so long, at some point he's gonna have to do it. Like this year he's going to be 18 and I'm like, you're going to have to like,
00:15:12
Speaker
get your own tags and go out and hunt bros. He went to Utah on his own last year with one of my buddies and he killed a deer. So we'll see how it is. Some people really love hunting and some people like hunting. They do it. There's a difference between like you and then a guy who has a hunting glass. There's a lot of guys who go hunting every year, right? And then there's you who spent like how many days in the field did you spend hunting last year? Just hunting. Goodness.
00:15:40
Speaker
Yeah, I would say yeah, like combined from, I don't really do anything in August last year, which is where, but yeah, from September through like even February, cause I had some hunts in February this year, I bet close to 80 or 90 days.
Filming Hunts: A Rewarding Journey
00:15:53
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That's crazy. Yeah. It was, and that's like maybe even a little low like conservative, but yeah, it was definitely one of the busiest hunting seasons I've ever had. I think I filmed seven hunts.
00:16:08
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not including February 7 hunts. Every hunt I filmed this year also, every single guy got one and a nice mature representation of the species we were after. It was just such a blessed season. It was crazy. Flew by, but at the same time, I was just trying to savor every moment because I feel like every hunt is one of the most incredible
00:16:28
Speaker
things or just like something that I just made this story just happened. And I was just like, wow, that is so insane. Like I, I don't know if I'll have ever another season like that again, of just having that many hunts be successful. Like top notch story. Just yeah, just super blessed. So eight or nine days in the field, at least seven mature animals. And I already know this, but you pack them out too.
00:16:53
Speaker
Yeah, sometimes we'll have enough guys when it's, you know, I always take like the loose meat or something, but there's definitely a hunt where it's maybe just me and the hunter. Like if it's me and Brady, for example, or whatever. And I don't want to, I want us to get the pack I've done as soon as possible. But also not be like, oh, I'm just here to take photos. I want to be a servant and helpful and do what I can to help the hunt go well. And whether that's needing help packing up the animal or
00:17:18
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needed help glassing sometimes on a glassing knob. I just try and fill in holes while focusing on capturing the story and the imagery with photos and video that propel the story along and trying to think of questions to ask to get good talking points or whatnot, depending on how the story is shaping up to be. But yeah, I don't know. I love all the various aspects of it. I don't know. You just got to be on your toes a lot no matter what's happening. So there's always something to do with it. So that's why I love it. Sometimes you're going from one hut in
00:17:48
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Colorado and then driving all night and then going to another, whatever Idaho, correct? Yeah. Sometimes I try and have a couple of days in between, but like sometimes where it's too really like good hunts that I really want to do, I will like stack them or plan or I'll try and plan a route. So for instance, like I had a hunt.
00:18:07
Speaker
I had two months this year, like one was in Southern Oregon where I'm from and then the other one was in Nevada and I was able to time both the seasons with the hunters and the dates that they wanted me there. So like it perfectly lined up. So I have a full travel day from Oregon to Nevada and vice versa. And I want to say I put 3,500 miles on my car, on my truck that, on that trip and it was like 20 days.
00:18:29
Speaker
But that's part of it, part of film and haunts and just part of Western hunting adrenaline is driving a lot. And actually I've come to enjoy like the road trips and that kind of stuff, listen to podcasts or music and getting, yeah, getting like debrief a little bit too, like creatively, just like, okay, like I can think of like story, like lines or,
00:18:50
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like an interview question I want to ask or just like a simple like any like creative shots I want to try and get or anytime I gather like inspiration from like those long car rides just to decompress. I don't like it because I get stiff afterwards and have to like stretch and stuff especially after a really physical hunt but yeah, I do enjoy like the road warrior, living on the road aspect of it, just sleeping in the back of the truck, just going from place to place.
00:19:16
Speaker
Basically, it's like, oh, hey, here's a pin. Be here at this day kind of thing. I don't know. I don't know. The closest thing I think of to being like a sailor, like on the ocean back in the day, just, you don't really know where you're going sometimes, but you just know it's going to be awesome. And it's going where the wind takes you a little bit. I have to imagine because Brady doesn't even talk about like the states he's in.
00:19:40
Speaker
Is he wait until, is it like mission impossible? Okay. Now tomorrow's the day. Here's the pin you're going to. Yeah. No, Brady's one of my favorite guys in the world to film. I absolutely love that guy. Yeah. So like sometimes a lot of times I'll start like, cause we'll talk quite a bit just about the seasons or what you draw or whatever. And then he'll be like, Oh yeah, I've got a tag for a deer and these are the rough dates. Are you interested? Or for example,
00:20:07
Speaker
And I'll look at my calendar and I usually try and do everything I can to film with Brady at least once a year. So I'm like, yeah, like those dates work for me. And then that's all pretty much, I know. But basically I work those dates. And then about a month out, I'll reach out to him again and be like, okay, so it's in this date. And then about a week. And then maybe like a week or two out, I'll be like, okay, like.
00:20:33
Speaker
Where do you want me to meet you? Because sometimes it's like a pain, like a campsite or sometimes even near this random town and then we'll drive in from there.
00:20:43
Speaker
No. So that's definitely like one of my clients where I'm just like, yeah, it's, it's, I'm signing up for a venture. I don't really know what to expect, but he also does prep me well as okay. And you like this certain gear item, it's like kind of unique to this sort of mission we're going on. Yeah. I know. Like I said, I love the uniqueness. I love the like mystery box. If I never really know what is going to happen.
00:21:04
Speaker
I know that's one of my favorite parts about filming hunts, especially just because you truly never know what is going to happen, how the story can unfold. And that's one of my favorite parts about it. It's not like there are parts that are like formulaic in terms of the creative aspect of it, but I do love it. Like you just genuinely know, you never know what's going to come out from behind the timber or how it's going to happen on day one versus day 10. So one of my favorite parts about it.
Essential Gear for Hunting and Filming
00:21:31
Speaker
Are you, is it usually a lot of, I imagine a lot of trucks sleeping. Have you tried the camera scanner yet?
00:21:37
Speaker
Yes. I actually, that was one of the biggest upgrades I had this year. Awesome. Yeah. So I have a six and a half foot truck bed so I can like sleep in it pretty comfortably. I'm six too. So I had to basically just roll that canvas cutter out in the back and then I have a canopy as well. So it's like a protected little cabin basically. And I just roll back there and have my stone glacial sleeping bag and I just crawl in there and just sleep and it's pretty awesome.
00:22:03
Speaker
And I slept in there, gosh, probably 25 to 30 days this year in the back of that thing. And it is pretty nice. I need to get one more. I need to get one more of them because like, it's, we do a lot of, I, my, like my father-in-law goes crazy because I never want to stay in a hotel. I always want to stay with my truck because one of the trucks full of like expensive stuff. Yeah. Oh yeah. And I don't, and I just don't want to be that guy who like goes in overnight and then some freakin' tweaker shows up and steals
00:22:34
Speaker
Oh yeah. Out of the truck or I'd download the whole truck and reload it. But the canvas cutter is so nice, especially because like half time you pull off, you don't want to set a 10 up. So then you're like laying out the other window on its part. Did you can put that canvas cutter out and just stay on the ground? It's windy, rain, whatever it is. It's legit. So I want to get one more at least so I can do some adventures with my kids. I want to do, I like to do coyote road trips or dirt bike road trip. I take dirt bikes, drive the truck, pull off, sleep, then go ride, explore, do some coyote hunting. So I want to get another one.
00:23:04
Speaker
Definitely. They're awesome for any sort of hunt like that. Because like we were saying too, like about your Hell's Canyon hunt, like not every hunt is six, seven miles deep, sleep under the star. Like some hunts are like not road hunting, but you're going back to a truck every night or going back to like a campsite off the road kind of a thing. And that's like,
00:23:22
Speaker
When I use that canvas cutter, it's so nice. Or just being with a truck camp and come back and just crawling that thing. Several of my hunts this year, it would have been foolish to hike in more than two miles because there's just another road at that two mile point. Because there's just roads everywhere and certain units. Yeah. And that four inch foam pad is just so luxurious. It's so nice. I need to get one of their
00:23:47
Speaker
I don't know. I need to get a sheet or something. I didn't write sheet on this year. I want to get a sheet. Are you wearing a sheet on it or just singing back and forth? Yeah. I just went to Walmart and I just got, I got like a little like mini, mini pillow in there too. That's kind of bougie, but I have a little pillowcase for that and a nice little stretchy sheet that goes over the foam. I still need to wash it. I'm, I will admit I have not washed it in this season. So.
00:24:08
Speaker
I do need to do that. There's not a piece of gear maintenance, but that was pretty awesome this year. And I have the little bug net for it too. I want to use it in the summertime and it's like really hot. I don't want to have the canvas like all the way over me. I can just use that. If you guys don't know what it is, the canvas cutter is like a bedroll. So you've got like a foam pad, then like a canvas, almost like a baby, but it's bigger than a baby. It's a pretty big setup. If you're not going to back back with it, it's probably three foot wide and it rolls up into, I don't know,
00:24:33
Speaker
18 inch round ball. And you basically have your everything in there. I keep my sleeping bag in there, keep my pillow in there, have a sheet on the bed, you just roll that sucker out, pop a couple of pulls up, and you're sleeping wherever you go. It's like a cowboy bedroll. You don't even have to roll the pulls if you don't want to, but I like having this up off me. I don't like this up in my face when I sleep.
00:24:52
Speaker
Yeah, no, I actually used it this weekend. I was out in the desert with a buddy of mine. We were just shooting some rifles and they're just hanging out. It was the first time we hung out probably like six or seven months, but yeah, we were out there shooting rifles and just hanging out, doing some hiking. And then we didn't want to set up a tent. So it was like, all right, so see the back of our trucks. We just jumped in there. So it's pretty slick. But yeah, and all the guys over there at Canvas Cut are awesome too. Like Shafer and Seth, they're all awesome guys.
00:25:18
Speaker
Yeah, they're really good dudes. I want to talk to them again. We'll get another one because it's just highly recommended and awesome dudes. Like you said, just awesome dudes. Do some cool stuff.
00:25:30
Speaker
I want to have a few questions. I'm intrigued. You're spending 80 to 100 days in the field. I want to know about physical fitness. I also want to know about like, you have to have a pretty good gear list critiques now and now and like a very minimal gear list that you run all the time that you got to know it works now. Yeah. So like, I guess, let's go to gear away first. I don't really care so much about your fitness because you obviously in shape and we'll talk about that a little bit if we get into it. But I feel like when you first get into backpacking or backpacking, you buy a bunch of crap you don't need.
00:25:57
Speaker
and I think I spent 60 days in the field this year, not always in a tent, I mean a lot of days in a tent, and I don't have a lot of the, I don't wanna say gimmicky stuff, I don't have all this, you go to REI, you go to REI and you're just like, oh my gosh, they're just taking people's money.
00:26:12
Speaker
Oh, yeah. It's just like you're in there and you're buying like the craziest. I was at a event this weekend and they were selling portable toilets that you bring like a pop-up that you bring with you to put over you in the field. And it's like, who the hell would buy that? It's like a pop-up that you backpack with so you don't have to poop in the open. So it's just like, there's stuff like that, right? Yeah. So what is your, you have to have a base kit. What are the gear items? Like what 10 are you using? What are, you know.
00:26:35
Speaker
Yeah, so I've actually thought about putting together a little YouTube video about this just because every hunt is so different for the most part. No, it's truly the same. Especially with filming a hunt, you're already having, depending on the hunt, an extra 15 to
00:26:52
Speaker
25 pounds of gear depending on The type of hunter the style of hunter like what you're going for creatively So throw that on top of a normal 60 pound pack for six days or whatever It's like a lot or it can be but all I have to say I do want to do like a video one day of just like breaking down for Just like day hunting like when you're coming back to your truck every night This is my gear setup and then five day on this my gear setup 10 day on this my gear setup but as far as like the things that kind of don't change just
00:27:22
Speaker
Yeah. So I used to have, I used to own Glacier backpacks. I used to use a 5900 and that was a great pack. I want to say it's somewhere around like 70 liters equivalent. And then I started honing with Brady and realized I needed a bigger backpack basically because there was this one hunt we did. And I literally was like, I was lucky enough to bring some dry bags. And I was like, at the end of the hunt, I was like strapping dry bags onto my pack. And I just had all this
00:27:50
Speaker
just to fit all my stuff, plus half the mule deer we were carrying out and stuff like that. So after that hunt, I went to the 7900, which I think is like one of the biggest packs out there on the market. But especially like I was saying for like filming a hunt when you already have to have extra gear, just having that extra large backpack, so that can also be cinched down and compressed to a pretty small normal size pack when you need it, has been amazing for the last two or three years have been around that one.
00:28:19
Speaker
I like the overall style. When it comes to style, I'm pretty minimalist and I really like the style of the single laser packs. How does the beaver tail open, where it's like you just open it and see everything. And I typically will put my camera cube insert, which I can get to more later. So I have all my camera gear out at the bottom, depending on how much weight I have in my pack. But I always try and put the heaviest stuff at the bottom, which is usually my lenses and other things like that.
00:28:45
Speaker
But I'll usually have just quick access to that with that pack, which is pretty awesome for a pack that size to have such quick access. And then just how versatile it is. I can put a lens or a spotter in the spotting pocket and I can have just my random junk drawer of stuff in the top lid and just have my water toilet paper and just a water purification like in the beaver tail zipper compartment, just for like quick access or a pair of gloves or something. It's just a really good pack, I think, for filming hunts specifically.
00:29:14
Speaker
Yeah, I'm thinking about, I'm not thinking, I'm going to go to a bigger pack because you haven't run the XO. I had the 360, now I have the 4600, which is a great pack. And until I started carrying around like a BTX, and then I started to carry around cameras. I want more space because I just don't have enough space.
00:29:35
Speaker
Yeah. So I want, I like more than $6,000, only like a six, six to 7,000 pack, only because I can roll it down. I don't have to use the whole thing, but it's annoying, especially when you do a yard sale, if you got to try and get all of it back, like sure you got to fit, but getting to fit in there three or four times on a hunt is annoying. I want that more space, which is why I can easily fit everything back in here. I don't have to like,
00:29:55
Speaker
Like Tetris did everything back in my pack. Yeah, remember the exact order of how things go back. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. That's the thing. When you start carrying gear and lenses and bigger spotters, like you're saying, it's not just the weight, but it's also like the just the space those things take up in the volume of the patch. But I've heard great things about the XO. I've just personally never run one run one.
00:30:18
Speaker
I love it. I absolutely love everything they're doing up there. Steven Mark, it's a phenomenal pack. And I think this year they only have 5600. So I'm like, Oh, I don't know. I think I'm going to continue to run XO for the majority of my hunts, but I might look at going to the stone glacier or maybe even the initial set has a big one. They do. Yeah.
00:30:37
Speaker
I'm pretty sure Eberly Stock has a few and Eberly Stock are really good dudes too. I just got to look at it and see what I want to do. I know that part of the 4600 was really tight with the BTX. Yeah, I can imagine. It just takes up so much room. Now that I've run the BTX, I won't go to Colorado on the high country real deer hunt this year, but I want to draw without a BTX. I know I'm going to need space. I'm just going to need the space for it somehow.
00:31:04
Speaker
You have to figure that out. So you got the pack, you run the 7,900, like you said, 7,100 stones, like sure. What about sleep system? Yeah, sleep system. Like I said, like for, I cater this more toward a backpack style filming hunt. Typically it depends. Sometimes we'll all share a sleep system, like a seek outside, Cimarron, TP, something like that. But sometimes I'll have my own TP because the hunter wants his own TP or, or just maybe it's just the me and the hunter.
00:31:34
Speaker
For example, so we'll just bring two different shelters just because that is part of it was like, I'm six two, so I'm a bigger guy, but I'm also like carrying all this extra gear. And sometimes it's a nice spread it out or just if I need to dry something, I can dry over there. So I've opt for the, it's called a seek outside Eolus. It's a two man tent technically. And I run an insert with it, but I really liked that tent because I can either have the insert or not. If I really need to shave the way I typically bring it.
00:32:02
Speaker
Cause I want to say like with the fly and it sets up with just two trekking poles, but I want to say the fly and the insert is still less than, I want to say two and a half pounds. I know it's less than three, but I just found that they're really good, spacious, um, set up. Cause I connect my sleeping pad in there, my sleeping bag, and then I can have also extra room in the insert from my gear. I can get organized with my batteries. I can get organized with my lenses or
00:32:29
Speaker
anything I need to like hang up or dry. And then I can have either entrance of the teepee to keep my backpack on one side or however I want to do it or have one side that just has like a little pad, I can put my shoes on and off and go out that way with things. So I really like that setup. Even though it is like a little bigger, not quite as like minimalist sometimes I was talking about, but it's, I feel like for the weight, it's just really a pretty clutch. Yeah. I, shoulder wise, like
00:32:56
Speaker
I do, I have a seat outside TP that I run, but I'm really like, I'm like the Helen Burks. Something like, I don't know. I don't know. I'm probably going to go back to TP at some point. You don't want to run a stove. I haven't done that yet. I kind of, I like the floor tents and I like, I don't know. There's something about the comfortable tent. Something about the comfortable tent. I know the floor of the tent is like the cool thing to do and everyone's doing it. You just get so dirty and getting this so hard not to be dirty.
00:33:23
Speaker
I mean, it's hard, but your tarp's getting dirty. I'm like, I could care less about the creepy crawlers. It's just, man, like I stay in that Hillenburg and it's got a big old vestibule on it. And I can get in there. And it's just not only that, it's just doesn't get the drafts underneath it. That like, no, I guess you can go do the rocks, do the whole thing. And I talked to my hon about this. No way you got to do TPs, right? They're obviously those guys are hardcore TV guys at Gritty. Yeah. But man, like I just, there's something, I don't mind bringing a little more weight and having a very comfortable shelter.
00:33:51
Speaker
Cause it's one thing like to begin your teeth kicked in all day, but then when you're having to sleep and you're getting like drafts in there, especially I use like a, I use a quilt, like you get drafts on your tent or it's just, I want to be comfortable. So yeah, a little more weight is worth it. Daddy, you always do. That's the one that has one of those guys on. Do you have a contact at seek? I don't know.
00:34:12
Speaker
No, I'm going to call them. I want to talk to them about their stuff. That one has that like new, like really innovative, not even a zipper, a pole or something on the end of it to open up, right? Yeah. So the fly has some sort of, it's like a drawstring kind of explain. It's like a drawstring with a bunch of cord like things.
00:34:28
Speaker
You just pinch it and you just slide it. It's pretty slick. It boggles my mind when I use it, because I'm just like, how does this work? But I just know I can just pinch it and open it up like that. But it's pretty slick. Like I was saying, if you need to run it floorless and just shave all the weight you can, you have the option. But most of the time, I bring the fly. And it is pretty tight with two people. I've just done it with two people. It's tight. But for a one man, it's just awesome because you're at the waterproof bathtub bottom.
00:34:56
Speaker
So I can have all my gear in there and not have to worry about that. Don't have to worry about like dew or condensation as much because I can just vent it really easy with that little sliding thing. And then I'll run a quilt like.
00:35:07
Speaker
in August, the first half of September, but I tend to sleep a little cold, just in my own personal experience. So I've just switched to the 15 degree, just full on muddy bag from Stone Glacier. I switched to that by the end of September. And I just basically run that to the end of the season. I don't have anything technically colder or rated for colder than that, but maybe this year I'll try and invest in something, but I've just been trying to invest a little, a little by little, as much as I came to the last,
00:35:36
Speaker
three or four years, but everybody knows it. It's expensive, but good gear is worth it. Yeah. I just keep adding them on. I know you buy good stuff. Like I was at a transportation yesterday with somebody and I've been running the same thermorest pad for eight years. Like how do I handle it? The XLIRM, I guess it's a phenomenal pad. I know it's going to work. I know it's going to work. So like we do, it's worth it. But that one time I bought like
00:36:01
Speaker
I bought a climate, something off of a camouflage and I think pop like the first night and there is nothing worse than sleeping on the dirt. Like sleeping on rocks, not having a pad there. Like worst, like it sucks. So like a good, good bad is worth it. I actually switched this year to, I think it's like, I think it's a big Agnes pad, but it's like a four inch thick one. Is it what color is it? Turquoise or blue?
00:36:28
Speaker
Okay. It's probably like cute, cute core or something like that. Yeah. Yeah. But it's like a freaking king bet. It's so nice. That's what I use. I have the red one. I think it's called the Rapide SL. It's four inches thick. It's so nice. I always get like compliments on it. Like, dude, that pad is so big. I'm like, it's worth it. Cause that's like, it's just so when you get your teeth kicked in all day long and on and you're just tired and
00:36:57
Speaker
hungry and exhausted. And it's just so nice to come back to a pretty nice, comfortable shelter where like you feel clean or you can be clean, like maybe just a little wet, white bath and clean yourself off and you just get in there and everything's dry and not dirty. And I don't know. That's like the part of me like on those hunts that like, I'm a little bougie with that. I do like to be clean and not completely in the dirt. I've done plenty of hunts and will do plenty of hunts where I'm in a flawless teepee.
00:37:23
Speaker
But it's just nice when you can have that floor in the bottom with the zipper and you know, no bugs are getting there, all that stuff. And you can use nice and comfortable in your little heaven on the mountain. Yeah. The pad is, it weighs a little more, right? I think it's like a pound or maybe a little more than a pack of 18 ounces. First, I have some like the thermorest, like the yellow one and the X are in there like 10 ounces or whatever. But man, like,
00:37:48
Speaker
It's, there's something about having the square big, being able to roll around and like, your feet not come off of it. Like it's just so nice to be comfortable. That thing is I roll a lot myself. That's why I use a quilt. Cause if I sit my mommy back, like I end up with like a wet blanket. Like I just roll us out. I just, I roll too much and move too much. I'm not a good sleeper as it is. My brain never shuts off.
00:38:08
Speaker
Yeah, that's a good one. I definitely agree. One thing I can say about shelters too is I always want to have a good vestibule because I do like the idea. One thing that's cool about a florist hat, like a teepee, is you could cook.
00:38:19
Speaker
in the TV. So I like to have a big vestibule, like on my Hillenburg, and a giant vestibule in the front so I can actually put my jet ball out there and cook right there. I don't do, I don't know, maybe I'll do. I don't go back to camp and make a fire. Typically when you're hunting, like you're getting up at 4am, and you're hiking back, you're getting back probably after dark, you're freaking exhausted, you just want to go to sleep.
00:38:39
Speaker
I'm never out there sitting by the fire talking. I don't know. It's not like out camp or deer camp. It's like you're backpacking. Most of it's cold. I like to get my clothes off, get my crocs on, jump in my sleeping bag and crack that jump oil up and lay there, trying to have the inability to cook in the tent, not to be sitting outside on a rock and do it. So it is nice to have a big vestibule. I definitely don't. I try and stay away from, honestly, the REI style. Big Agnes, like Coppersburg.
00:39:07
Speaker
With the traditional dome tent. Yeah, like the ultra lights, they don't have the stuff like you need the vestibule for all your gear. There's something we said about the big difference between ultra light backpacking and like ultra light hunting, like you still have a rifle.
00:39:20
Speaker
Right? Where's your rifle going to sleep? You still have all your optics and your tripods. I don't like to leave this outside because I have to leave it outside and it's rained on or freezes up. I like to keep it in the tent. So if you have a big mess, you can put it in there and do that. With a floorless tent, I can bring it inside. With a teepee, even my Sikh silver tip, it's just so big. It's so spacious. But they do require more space as well. We don't realize that either. The Cimarons could take up. You need a good 10 foot or 12 foot by 12 foot square to put that sucker up.
00:39:50
Speaker
Oh yeah. Probably getting screwed and having a, I was good with sleep spot. 100%. Yeah.
00:39:56
Speaker
Yeah. That's like, I went back to expensive gear
Food and Energy on Hunts
00:40:00
Speaker
thing. That's one thing I like, for example, like the guy I was just out shooting with this last weekend, like we were talking about gear and stuff like that and hunting, like he wants to get back into hunting this year. And he was just asking me some like gear related questions. And I just told him, I was like, dude, just get what you can, but don't feel like you need to have all the best right now before you can go out there and go hunting. You know what I mean? Like,
00:40:22
Speaker
just get what you can and just like maybe have a couple of your plans. Okay, next year I'll get like a zero degree bag, but I'll just get by with like my 20 degree this year. Or just something like that or just focus on the necessities and then add in the items of comfort or the stuff you can, I can probably swing that this year. Or maybe that I'll hold off one more year for that. I just think it's so easy just to know that our culture is all I need to have all this stuff before I can even set foot in the woods and it helps for sure. But you don't need to have every single possible thing throughout there and have a good time.
00:40:51
Speaker
But yeah, plus it definitely has so much stuff that I bought and don't use. Yep. Right. And get out there and do it, figure out what you need. That's why I want to hear from you because you've been doing for so long. You don't learn what works, right? What is necessity? Right. You got your sleep system. You got your path. What about food? What are you doing for food?
00:41:10
Speaker
Yes. Food. I've definitely gone a lot of different directions with this over the years. How I do it now is for example, like a backpack style hunt. I'll typically only bring one to two of the dehydrated, like full on meals, like from a peak refuel or Heather's choice or mountain house or whatever.
00:41:30
Speaker
I'll typically bring one to two of those per day, and then I'll just have a lot of snacks. And typically, I'll have one little sandwich. So I usually just go to the grocery store before a hunt. I like to try and eat relatively clean on the mountain. I know it's not
00:41:48
Speaker
always the most possible thing to do, but I do really value that. So I'll go and get a nice organic sourdough bread. I like sourdough because it has a lot of good probiotics and stuff, and it's not generally as processed depending on what brand you buy.
00:42:03
Speaker
But I'll just make some little salami and cheese sourdough sandwiches because if they get smashed, it's still edible, still great. And it's nice to break up the traditional pastas and they're just reheated or the oatmeals or the ramen. It's nice to have something hearty with bread, especially a good quality bread. But I'll usually do that for the lunch. But yeah, I'll usually, like I was saying, one to two backpacking dehydrated meals and then just a bunch of different snacks.
00:42:32
Speaker
I've gone away from oatmeal. I did a lot of oatmeal back when I was first doing this a lot. But the thing about oatmeal is I had to boil water in the morning and sometimes, depending on the hunt, we maybe wouldn't wake up with enough time to do that. Or on some hunts, it's like we only have one little canister of fuel and we have to conserve fuel and you only get one boil a day.
00:42:55
Speaker
Kind of a thing. So I've gone away from oatmeal. Whereas I was at a staple when I was first starting. So a lot of times in the morning, I'll just do like a bar, just like a good like protein bar. You know what I loved? That I like my favorite. I love granolas. Like the, but my favorite one is Alpenfuel. Have you heard Alpenfuel yet? Oh yeah. No, they're awesome. Dude. Yeah. I think I've probably started doing some of their stuff this year. And then like their little, their little cookie monster cookies. Have you seen those?
00:43:22
Speaker
I haven't tried those. I should have those guys on the podcast too, but I am like such a fan of those guys. Like I love, cause my thing is like you get up and you have an hour high. You gotta get to where you're going. So I'll bring it out and fuel. I'll suck some water out of my straw and I'll spit it in this thing. And I was eat right. But like you get there and you got like a 30 minutes, then I'll eat right before glassing. Like, you know what I mean? Yeah. And they have freaking like 800 calories in them.
00:43:48
Speaker
Yeah. And they're good. And you don't have to heat up water. You can just- You want to heat it? Just spit it in there? Yeah. Otherwise, I spit it in there because I use a freaking straw. Sorry. I can't go back. Okay. That's about four ounces put in there. Let that sucker sit. Throw my freaking titanium treasure spork in there. It'll plug. Do we make sporks? 12 bucks. Put a spork in there and just eat a sucker right there. You don't have to go and boil. Again, it's not
00:44:12
Speaker
can get so caught up. It's not backpacking, it's hunting. It takes a long time to boil water, put it in the ready to heat up. You're talking, that's a 30 or 40 minute process to get that thing by the time you do it. Yeah. That's super clutch. I'll piggyback on that too. I don't use a distraught water bladder on my backpack or anything like that. I have
00:44:34
Speaker
I use Nalgene's and then I have Hydropack. I'm sure other companies make it too, but just like basically just a water bladder with a big cap. I just fill those up. I use the MSR. Same thing, yeah. Dromae. I use those. I go back and forth. I use Nalgene's. I love Nalgene.
00:44:54
Speaker
But a lot of the desert stuff, I just feel like it's easier for me to just bring the dig strong. But if I was going to go to Colorado, or somewhere where it's going to freeze, I'm going to run out. I can't say one thing. Go ahead. One thing that's nice about warming your breakups in the morning is that you can either warm. If it's really cold, it is really nice to have a warm bounce house. But I rarely, I might bring one or two of those on a hunt with me. Almost all the granola guys know that I like
00:45:22
Speaker
Yeah. No, I do. I do a bunch of different stuff. I do a lot of like I say, like bars, but I actually got turned on all my buddies, Hunter McWaters. He turned me on to this thing's called a Rari crackers. And I think I'm saying it right. I probably not, but it's like a rice cracker and it's wrapped in seaweed.
00:45:41
Speaker
Okay. It's so different than your typical chocolate peanut butter, dehydrated chicken Alfredo. I hate bars. I hate bars. Yeah. After day seven, you're like, I literally cannot eat another protein bar. That's why I like having these little rice crackers because it's just such a different flavor palette. It's salty,
00:46:04
Speaker
And you still get like a good crunch, but like a lot of times you don't get on the mountain. Like you used to get like a nice crunch and they actually, they hold up really well in your pack, like getting slammed around everything. Like they don't break down like a Frito or Dorito, for example, like they're not going to just turn to dust. They're actually pretty strong.
00:46:20
Speaker
Yeah. So I got turned out of those by Hunter and I've been really liking those. I'm also big on just like little energy shoes, like just like this little like cliff energy shoes. I think they're called like energy blocks or something like that. I just pop those sometimes just for a good boost of sugar, boost of caffeine. They're fairly clean. Different texture. Different texture.
00:46:39
Speaker
I put it in my pocket, like I'm back and out, I'll throw it out, I'm back and those are nice. Yeah, love those. And it's quicker than sitting down and like mixing together like a coffee or a Ignite or something like that. Sometimes it's nice just to pop it, like you said, like in your pocket, just grab and go. But yeah, I run a lot of different foods. That's like one of my favorite things like is to try different snacks and different foods. That's probably one of the most like fluid parts of my like gear system is like the food I bring on a hunt.
00:47:07
Speaker
A lot of times like i'll bring all ration myself like to like peak meals for example for a day a lot of times i only try to eat one especially if it's like a seven to ten day where it's like it could go ten but we only brought enough food for seven sometimes i'll just like ration food and that's
00:47:23
Speaker
I've had several hunts where that's actually paid dividends because it allowed me and the hunter to have a couple extra days worth of food because we were just doing a lot of glassing and not as much physical exertion. So I was able to back off on the calorie intake a little bit and conserve some extra meals and stuff for the seventh day of the night, innings of the hunt. I love bringing... There's a few things I'd really like to bring in the last couple of years. If it's really cold,
00:47:50
Speaker
I like bringing ramen, not like the, I've got the Asian story, like a legit ramen, not like the top ramen. Yeah. I can't do the generic. You got to go get the quality, like the spicy ramen dude. Yeah. The good ramen. We haven't seen it. It was a big old Asian community here. Go get some really good ramen. That's really good. Especially like the middle of the day. Just nicely that it's almost like the comfort of that. Another thing I really like to bring is like, I'll bring a couple of like blogs of salami.
00:48:17
Speaker
Yeah. Some chunks off of that and then some cheeses, sprint the little, I'd like the Tillamook cheeses, right? Or even like the baby bells. Dude, if you do, it's just like you get like day five into a hut and all you're eating is Reese's peanut butter cups and Fritos. Can't do it. It sucks. Like you just like, you're like, you're going to bonk and like, you're looking at your buddy who has cheese. You're just like, I want that so badly. Yeah.
00:48:41
Speaker
You know, like you want fresh things. There's something fresh about eating salami or eating, not a freeze jug meal plan. Like dude, like it's just.
00:48:48
Speaker
You're just farting so bad. It's just, I do so much a bit. Like even on the bar thing, dude, like I've tried doing like the cream belly bars and stuff, dude, more power to them. Everyone likes them. But I start gagging, trying to eat that stuff. It's just dried out bar. I'm trying to get down. I'd much rather bring along something fresh with me. I'd much rather bring along like the tuna packets, like the sun kiss tuna packets. Those are great. Yeah. Do those things or with, I'll do flatbread. That way you don't just work up too bad. The tortillas are great too. Yeah.
00:49:18
Speaker
So I was going to say for ramen, another hack I do just to get more protein in my ramen is I just bring those little like beef bone broth sticks and each one is like 10 grams of protein. So like pretty decent. Yeah. And I'll just, I'll add that in my ramen and it like, not only does the flavor like get even better, but I don't get a little extra protein in there. And I think it was like collagen and a couple of other like really good stuff. Yeah. There's a camera, which one I got it from in
00:49:46
Speaker
and gritty boom. And they had it on there, whether they're using, but it's some like super organic, healthy bone broth stuff and have all that stuff in there. It's going to be, I put some of those in the ramen as well. I'm just going to drink the broth and you're down. Plus like when you, like water sucks, it's the worst. And if you're, especially if you're hunting somewhere, that's just like water is a thousand people, you're a thousand people below you drink that water. Like you need to drink that water with that ramen because you want all the water you can. You're not dumping that stuff out. Um,
00:50:14
Speaker
Another thing that I love for the last two seasons I've been running is these Celsius powders. Do they have powder? Dude, I'm telling you, I know we're supposed to run like mountain offs and stuff because it's a cool thing to do. You will never go back. It is so delicious. Really? They have like 200 grams of caffeine in them. It's supposed to be like, I do it in a whole 32 hour analogy and shake that sucker up. I always have an analogy with me no matter what. Dude, they are so good.
00:50:43
Speaker
They're like so tasty. They have the strawberry lemonade one and like all the flavors and it's 15 bucks like 10 of them at Walmart.
00:50:53
Speaker
Dang, I don't have to try that. Yeah. Cause I usually bring at least one ignite stick per day, typically, or if it's like a really physical, I'll bring one of the like BCA sticks, but I do really think those help like my level of soreness on certain. I love their BCA. I'm not knocking them out. They have great stuff. Like I love their BCAA powder. Like I do it after the gym. I can just, it's like refreshing, but dude, like, I feel like these Celsius's are just like, it's like drinking. I like them more than regular Celsius cans.
00:51:20
Speaker
Yeah, I'll have to try that because a lot of the fishing stuff I film like in the summertime on the east coast like all the guys I film with are like just hooked on Celsius and so I never it's funny I don't always think I'd never drink Celsius when I'm like back home or whatever but like whenever I'm on the east coast I'll grab one or two just because it's I don't know like what everybody like drinks on like the career lawn. So this is fun Yeah, I switched to the sugar-free monsters
00:51:46
Speaker
Again, I'm a fan of the sugar for the nostrils for sure So that's your snack food and then dinner you just are you right? What are you in for a stove?
00:51:55
Speaker
I basically just have one of those like titanium cups like just the super ultralight basic like almost like Kettle cup and then it says like a little lid on the top of it. No, I think it's a I think mine's a seek outside There's a kind of a generically branded one and then I have the little tiny little stove that goes on top of the the butane to a canister and I want to say it's like Soto is the brand so to
00:52:24
Speaker
If I remember right. And then I just put that in there and it had like an automatic like lighter built into it. But I just feel like those kind of... It's like the $12 one of Amazon, right? Yeah. It's pretty cheap. I ran the same one for years. Yeah. And I've had... Everything fits in the cup. Yeah. Fits in the cup. It's awesome. I've had two of them. Both of them I've broke the lighters on. That could have been just user error. So I always have a lighter in there as well. Sometimes it works, sometimes they don't. But having a lighter, it's like it'll always work.
00:52:51
Speaker
I really like that because it's a pretty small footprint. I put everything in the cup and then have a little drawstring bag for it and I cinch it up. It doesn't take up that much space. It's pretty light. I also have one of those like Jet Boil can little refillers. So it has a female and a male top of the little screw.
00:53:07
Speaker
Dude, yeah. I'm shocked. I talked to so many people like in the industry, so many people just don't have that. It's just like a no brainer gear item, at least in my opinion. Yeah, I've had it for a man.
00:53:24
Speaker
four years now and now I only buy the big ones. I should send you a photo of all the cans I have in my garage right now because I'm going through and refilling them right now, but I just buy the big ones and I just refill my tiny guys and it's just awesome. I want to say I got it on eBay for 35 bucks, just this little refill I think. Yeah. Dude, I need to get one of those. I used to run that same stove, same setup because it was ultra light, but then too, I started using a jet boil and I know it's bougie, but
00:53:51
Speaker
It's so nice. They're nice. They're definitely, they're better. I kind of, I probably should. It's a space thing though. It's a space thing too. It definitely, yeah, it's a space thing. The jet well is bigger, but it burns faster and more efficient in my opinion. Cause there's definitely days I'm on there, like on the mountain and it's like windy or like really pretty cold. And my thing struggles to get a boil. Man, it's sometimes it takes, I feel like five minutes to get a boil going. Where's my jet? Like a guy I'm hunting with a jet well, his boiled in 90 seconds.
00:54:20
Speaker
And he's eating his food already. Especially if you're sharing, like, my buddy, Kellen, we're big, we hunt together.
00:54:26
Speaker
We're pretty simple dudes. We'll share a stove, like we can work together. My other buddy's like, I'm bringing my stove. I don't want to deal with you. So if you're splitting the weight and I'm carrying the gas, you're carrying the stove. Like it's really not that bad to carry that thing. I'm not that heavy, but it does take up a lot more space compared to that little can. But it is nice, like I said, for like boiling, like ramen and stuff. Like it's just not as, it's more stable too. So I do like that. Dude, speak of like truck stuff, dude, I got their Genesis stove this year. It is the greatest piece of gear I bought all year.
00:54:56
Speaker
Besides for my stuff I made, the treasure stuff, it is a guys food, I got the double Genesis soap. Dude, it is like the Coleman stoves. It smokes them. It's freaking hot. It is the greatest thing I bought while you're here. It comes with two pots, two with the pan and then it comes with the stove and it has a big boiling pot. We cooked all of our food, that thing, on our hunts, our elk hunt, our deer hunt this year.
00:55:25
Speaker
It is awesome. Multiple hunts we use it on. It cooks up super quick, just like a jet boil, and it's super compact. It folds down to this tiny thing. There's a big metal green thing you carry around. Those Genesis stoves are dope. What type of fuel does it take? It's like... Green propane tank. You can also get an adapter to put your jet boil onto it.
00:55:47
Speaker
If you're like really see when you're jumping off that green tank to like off the Genesis. No way that yet. It's almost like it folds up. It looks like it's like a round ball, but it's freaking off. It's in the pot. It's legit. It's an awesome piece. I got to check that out.
00:56:03
Speaker
It is an awesome piece of gear, for sure. I actually have him coming on next week on the podcast, the guy from Jetboil, to talk about. Oh, sick. I'm so stoked on this thing, though. Yeah. The set of your way. Yeah. But I was going to say, another piece of gear. So, like, I recently watched the video go
Filming Gear and Techniques
00:56:21
Speaker
on its YouTube channel. They were talking about, like, a possibles kit. And I think they had John Barklow from Sitka talking about what you want in your pack, no matter what, a fire starter kit, first aid, that kind of thing.
00:56:32
Speaker
For filming, I have one of those little bags as well. So I just wanted to briefly mention that. I like to just have just a couple extra lens caps in there, some little Zeiss lens wipe, just like the alcohol lens wipes in there. One of those like little blowers, which is good to have for your spot or your bino or whatever, if you ever need to get dust out of something.
00:56:51
Speaker
or dust off your sensor or whatever like that, that's really handy to have. And I also, because I'm always having to charge stuff, I have one of every single USB cord in there, in my pack at all times. Because I've been on hunts and I've been four miles, five miles in there and I realize I don't have an iPhone cord or I don't have a USB-C cord to charge my camera with my power banks. And I've had to hunt all day
00:57:15
Speaker
And then I would do 10 miles or whatever. And then night comes when most guys are over back climbing our tents, making our jet boil food and going to bed. This is why I always have this in my pack and I'll never forget. It's because I was on a hunt like that and I forgot. And I had to hike out 10 miles, five miles down to the truck and five miles back up that night. And that was just imprinted into my memory. I was like, I can never, ever forget a USB-C cable, like ever again.
00:57:42
Speaker
Learn from my mistakes, always have every single possible cord you can possibly need, which generally is just an iPhone cord, a micro USB, and a standard USB-C cable. And hopefully, as technology continues to go this way, it'll all be USB-C, just for sake of use. I know the new iPhones have USB-C, and I don't know why it took them so long to switch to that cable, but I'm a huge fan of USB-C.
00:58:11
Speaker
Really? They're not the white thing, stick thing. The lightning? No. Yeah. They're, they've been slowly like murmuring it and talking about switching to USB-C, but this last one with the iPhone 15, they finally switched. It would be awesome, dude. Cause like you, I literally have to have three or four different cables. Oh yeah. It's the worst. The droid stuff and the mini USB and USB-C and then iPhone is just, yes, it's terrible. So everything was the same thing. It would just be.
00:58:38
Speaker
It'd be awesome. I'm not for government intervention, but they want to get involved in that and make everyone go to USBC. I'd be stoked. Everything to say. I think that's what made Apple do it. Cause I want to say involved in that some, you're trying to make a new course. Yeah. I'm also not for that at all. But yeah, I also like that they did that.
00:58:56
Speaker
in this one tiny small example of that. But yeah, overall, obviously not for that. But I think the European Union or something like that, I read an article that they were like, outlying or making everything have to be USBC by a certain year. How much amount do you film on your iPhone?
00:59:14
Speaker
Just like long lens stuff or I use it a lot. Just take if I got like a really cool clip or like something I know that I'm going to use, like I'll write down my notes or something like that. Or obviously for mapping, if we're in an area where I need maps to like get to a water source or if something were to happen to me in a hunter, we get separated or whatever, I can like funnel her back to camp or whatnot. But yeah, then with the USBC cable, all my cameras are like mirrorless cameras now.
00:59:41
Speaker
So I can charge with just the USB-C into my Canon cameras. And then I just have these little anchor. They're called... Anchor is the brand. You have to have a certain one and it has to say PD on it, which means like power delivery, which means like it exceeds a certain threshold of power that it's able to output. Basically, I want to say 20 watts or 18 watts. But basically, that's the one that I need for my cameras.
01:00:05
Speaker
Basically I have a little solar panel also from Anchor that I just got on Amazon, I think 80 bucks. And I just charge up those power banks with that. And then from those power banks, I just plug into my cameras at night. Or if I have a long day and we're just on a glassing knob and it's like the wolves of the hunt, I'll just plug it in. I charge it at midday. Yeah. Cause you're putting, you're putting typically five to 10 day hunt into a 20 minute film.
01:00:32
Speaker
Yeah. So I guess you probably thought we were talking about
Memorable Hunts and Film Projects
01:00:34
Speaker
filming hunt. So it's always talking about your gear list, which is pretty awesome. So it's really important. It's super, it's like one of the biggest. It's awesome. That's why I want to hear from guys like you. They're actually doing it. Like you're actually out there, like real world doing it. What gear are you using? I love to hear that stuff from people. So you went on seven hunts last year. Who would you film for last year? What films did you do?
01:00:53
Speaker
Yeah. So I did see September. I did. My first time of the year was with Western Hunter with Nate Simmons. We did an elk hunt together and I'm a whirlwind. I don't think he's like really officially posted it, but he shot a really nice bull on opening day in Wyoming.
01:01:11
Speaker
It was crazy, like one of the craziest hunts ever filmed. I don't want to spoil it too much, but it was crazy. It was also crazy because I had COVID and we were like at 10,000 feet and I was just sucking air through a straw is what it felt like. And the whole time we were like we hiked in there, spent the night before the season opened.
01:01:31
Speaker
And the whole time, like my family was praying for me. I was praying to the Lord. I was like, Lord, if there was ever a hunt, cause it was supposed to be a 10 day hunt. I was like, if there was ever a hunt that I could pull a card and have a miracle happen. And we tag on day one, like this would be it. Cause I am like a shell of myself right now.
01:01:51
Speaker
can't breathe. I'm just hacking. I'm coughing. I, I'm going to be loud. I was just like, and this was just, I don't know, all the, like the negative thoughts run to your head. I'm getting how Nate Simmons, like I love this guy, looked up to him for a while. Been really looking forward to this hunt. This is just an awesome experience. And of course I'm sick. Like I was fighting that fighting the demons on my shoulders, like telling me, Oh, like how could this happen? Are you such a loser? Blah, blah, blah. But I was just trying to pray through that. And the next morning we got a done opening morning and I was just like, my job was on the floor.
01:02:21
Speaker
two days straight. I couldn't believe it. So I've been a lot of elephants over that is like the farthest thing from reality where it's always a grind and either doesn't happen or happens towards the end. But yeah, so we've got super blessed on that one. And then, yeah, fast forward after that hunt. My wife, actually, we went bear hunting with all my friends here in Idaho, Gavin Wallace, and she got a bear random thing like we're so that got done early. So actually, a couple of days ago or two.
01:02:49
Speaker
I actually did, yeah. So my hunt with Nate got done early and so I was able to come home and then basically my buddy Gavin reached out to me. Hey, I've got some hounds and we're going to go out and I'm going to go out and run them and do some training with them. Do you guys want to go on a bear hunt, try and get a bear for your wife? And I was like,
01:03:06
Speaker
Sure, why not? I'm home a day early or whatever. So we went out there and kind of same thing just got like ridiculously blessed and we got a bear treed within a mile of where we released the dogs at. And it was my wife's first big game animal and she did awesome handle the whole thing like a total pro.
01:03:25
Speaker
And yeah, I was just, I ended up bringing my camera that day just to like, at first just to like a home video. Like I was just like, I just want to like document this and because I'll never know what's going to happen. Like I was standing on a hump, you just never know what's going to happen. And the glow and behold, we like treat a bear and got up to it and it's just a nice boar and beautiful kind of like reddish brown, almost like a little bit of like purple coloring, just a beautiful bear.
01:03:48
Speaker
And yeah, she made a perfect shot. The bear climbed to the tree like five yards and was dead in less than 10 seconds. And it was crazy. And I actually put like a little like seven minute video together for it. And I just submitted it to the Full Draw Film Festival. And she didn't know I was going to do that because she was like wanting me to.
01:04:07
Speaker
The video turned out pretty decent. I really wanted to submit it to a full drop film festival and I was like, oh, I think it already happened or whatever, but I surprised her and submitted it. I just recently told her and she was pretty happy. That's awesome. You don't really produce your own... I want to keep going, I want to keep cutting out from where you're going, but you don't produce your own... You don't really do your own films. Everyone else is filmed and your name's typed. You don't have a Loops hunting film YouTube channel, right? Nope. You're doing everybody else's stuff.
01:04:36
Speaker
Yeah, I usually just for the last few years, I've just been contracting out and honestly, I just feel like that's on my place right now, like just fill in needs of companies and individuals who just reach out to me like, hey, this is the hunt we have or the story we want told, do you want to do it? And that's just like where my heart's been and just where I've been seeing doors continue to open. Like I was saying earlier, like there's that have blown my mind. And so I just want to in this season of my life, at least just keep going through those doors. And I don't know, I just haven't really seen like,
01:05:04
Speaker
The need maybe is not the right word, but I just haven't really had the desire to like, you know, the Luke hunting film show or whatever you would call it on YouTube. Like I've just seen more of the need of telling stories for people who need stories told. Gotcha. All right. So you went on those two hunts. Where did you go next? After that, I went on a hunt with Sitka and it was a sheep hunt in Montana. And also that one really has not been
01:05:31
Speaker
hosted or shared online. So I don't want to say too much, but it was also equally as epic as the hunt with Nate Simmons. And I believe it should be coming out. I'm not sure in what capacity. I think they're still working on that, but sometime around the summer, this summer, 2024, um, it should be out on YouTube and stuff like that. So you're looking for that one, but that one was awesome. That's the big name. Sick is the big name. That's a big name company.
01:06:00
Speaker
It was an awesome experience. The coupon is not an easy tag to draw, so you get the nod for that. It's just a bit of something to cap for. It's pretty awesome. Yeah, like I said, just super thankful I got to be a part of that one. It was, yeah, an amazing experience. So, Sitka, who's next?
01:06:18
Speaker
After that, we actually, I was going to maybe do another elk hunt, but I decided just to, my wife really wanted to go elk hunting this year. And so I just decided to block off the last 10 days of the month. And we just elk hunted in Idaho with one of my buddies in Oregon who actually drew a non-resident tag. He came over and hunted with us and we just had one of the best like 10 day stints of hunting like I've ever had. Like I said, like we got, we were able to get a cow elk down in our group, but we just had, excuse me.
01:06:46
Speaker
a lot of just amazing encounters. Like I shot and missed two elk. I should have maybe hit them, but both arrows hit branches and my wife got to see both, which is equally embarrassing, but also it was really cool for her to see an experience like being close to elk, see them talk and see them do their thing. And hopefully next year learning from my mistakes that I need to shoot my bow more.
01:07:06
Speaker
But it was really cool. She got to have some close encounters too after my misses because she was like, okay, I'm done or you're done. I'm up first. Yeah, it was awesome, man. We just made some really good memories and yeah, I just, I'll never forget it. Awesome. And then you filmed, you filmed with Leopold last year's year before.
01:07:24
Speaker
No, I did this year too. I did a hunt with them for their project hunt series, which I don't know if you're aware of it, but it's basically like anyone can apply for it. And it's just, you know, it could be basically it's like a hunt you apply for. Oh, sorry. Let me back that up. It's what you, so you'll either draw a hunt or you have, I'm just butchering this. I'm so sorry.
01:07:45
Speaker
If you get a bitchin' hunt, like you go and draw a sheep tag, you could apply to the appointment, I got this hunt, do you want to film it for me? Exactly. Or you could equally say, Hey, I do this hunt every single year. It's over the counter with my dad or my grandpa or whatever. And it's this hunt, I've been doing it for 20 years or whatever. Basically like the story can be really anything from this incredibly once in a lifetime hunt to like just a general hunt you do with your family. And you basically just make a little two minute video about it.
01:08:11
Speaker
And you just send it into Leupold and then they go through all the different entries and they narrow it down to a couple. And then typically from that couple, they'll narrow it down to sometimes one, but the last two years they've been doing two. And then from there, they'll reach out to the finalists and be like, hey, we've selected your hunt. Would you like us to film it basically? And most of the time they say yes.
01:08:34
Speaker
But yeah, so this year I was fortunate enough to get to do another one of those for that campaign again, for the Project Hon campaign. And it was for a guy named Cody. And he actually was diagnosed with MS. I have a really cool story. I'm really excited to put this one together. I'm actually working on it right now. But he was diagnosed with MS. Yeah, these ones I do, yeah. All the editing as well. If you do a go-hoc film, you edit it the whole thing.
01:08:57
Speaker
So in years past, they've had an editor put in together the Gohun originals. This year, I worked it out so that the ones I'm doing this year, I'm going to be editing, which is good because it's always been hard for me to find work in the spring. So just having a little bit of extra editing work has been a huge blessing. That's awesome. Yeah. So going back to the project, this guy named Cody, he was IDOSMS.
01:09:21
Speaker
And I want to say the date was August 4th, 2022. And then, you know, 32, three to 33 years old, young guy, super nice dude, just randomly got diagnosed with MS. Just no real outstanding symptoms. It just kind of just hit him. And then he basically, he's grown up hunting his whole life. He's from the Midwest. He's always had a dream of going on like a wilderness elk hunt on horseback in Wyoming. And he had enough points. And he's like, you know what? I'm going to burn my points this year.
01:09:50
Speaker
MS is a thing where it could be debilitating a year from now or you could live to be 70, 80, 90 and have a relatively healthy life. It just hits everybody differently. But I'm going to choose to not let this define me and go out and pursue adventures that I want to do before I die. And I basically cashed in his points, told his dad, hey, I drew this tag. You're coming with me. It's going to be an awesome father or son experience.
01:10:18
Speaker
And then lo and behold, like exactly a year to the day that he was diagnosed, like Leopold didn't know this, but they reached out to him on that same day. And we were like, hey, you've been selected to be our finalist for Project Heart. And so that was like a pretty cool God moment in my opinion, just like almost like a full circle thing, just for Cody, but also just like the story of it all. And we just couldn't write a better story than that. So then Leopold reached out to me and I was like,
01:10:44
Speaker
Absolutely. I would love the opportunity to tell a story because I've had some people in my family with MS and kids close to home. So yeah, I basically packed up my stuff right after Al Cutt and Idaho.
01:10:55
Speaker
Headed over to Wyoming, met up with Cody, met him and his dad, basically rode in 11 miles on horses after meeting them. And then we had two days of snow. It was pretty terrible weather and good for hunting because it does help the hunting. But it was the first two days we basically were just stuck in the wall tent just hanging out and getting to know each other. And then the third day came and the storm cleared and we rode out at seven in the morning. And the first duck we saw was a beautiful six point and Cody made a perfect shot. Shot him at 200 yards.
01:11:25
Speaker
And it was a really special story. I don't want to spoil too much about it, but it's a story that is just going to be a great film because it's just so much more about life than just what happened on the hunt. And not that there's not a place for incredible hunt stories of things that take place on a hunt and can inspire you and give you things to take away and impact on your daily life, but this one was just like
01:11:50
Speaker
a really unique story that I'm just, like I said, really excited to put together and tell his whole story of who he is and how it was going through the diagnosis and how that changed his life. And then we'll fast forward to the hunt and kind of having the hunt be like a vignette for conquering the challenges of life and being successful. And yeah, like I said, it won't spoil too much, but I'm really excited for that one.
01:12:11
Speaker
Yeah, I like how you've been like, since the beginning of this podcast, you've been saying story and not hunt. It's like you film this story. That's where I feel like.
01:12:22
Speaker
I, like, I film a hunt, right? You're capturing a story. And that's like, I think you're so talented at doing this. When I watch one of your hunts, I actually feel like I'm there. And I'm seeing this whole thing unfold. And that's what's so awesome about what you do. So you go from Leopold, now, who else? Thanks, here. Bless you.
01:12:42
Speaker
Yeah. So after that hunt, I came back and first of all, I'll say thank you, Drew. That really means a lot, man. I would say I can't really, I don't know if I can really piggyback onto that statement, but I would just say, I just feel super blessed to be able to tell these stories on these hunts. And I get to tell a lot of cool stories. My work, like I said, like the fish and stuff I get to do.
01:12:59
Speaker
some stuff like in the music industry, some stuff in the ministry, like doing like mission trips and stuff like that. And that's one of my favorite parts of my job is I can use photography and video in all these different like aspects of life and different quote unquote industries, whatever you want to call them. They're just different stories that need to be told. And I like not being a pin down into one specific like
01:13:22
Speaker
industry or one specific niche. I like doing a lot of different stuff and I just feel like that's really where my calling is at right now in the season of my life. So yeah, back to hunting. So yeah, after that hunt with Leopold, I did
01:13:37
Speaker
with Go Hunt. It was actually with Brady, and it was his elk hunt that he drew this year for Mozzalota. And I also don't want to spoil it too much either because the film has not come out yet. Yeah, but it was definitely a tough hunt. It was a very, very well sought after draw limited entry type hunt.
01:13:54
Speaker
It was open sight muzzleloader, which is my first ever muzzleloader hunt filming. So that was a unique challenge because I wasn't sure. Creatively, I'm like, am I going to go with more of a long lens setup or a medium short range setup and then just hug the spotter? Because that's typically what I do for a rifle hunt. But for an archery hunt, I'll opt more for something like a 24-105 and a 70-200. But then for a rifle hunt, I'll do something like a 24-70.
01:14:20
Speaker
and like a 1-500 kind of a thing. I don't want to get too technical with the lenses and stuff like that, but because I wasn't sure is he going to try and shoot because he was telling me before the hunt, yeah, I'm feeling pretty comfortable to sneak out to 400 yards. And I was like, holy smokes, open sight. That's crazy. But Brady is like one of the most proficient shooters I know and probably one of the most proficient shooters in North America. So I was just like, all right, like anything out there, I'm just totally trusting and whatever they're comfortable with, I'm comfortable with.
01:14:49
Speaker
We'll just see how it goes. So yeah, we like chased around. It sounds crazy, but like a eight by nine bull for a few days and got like pretty close a couple of times and just for having a really good time. It was me, him and Omar out there in the desert, just running around, hiking around these like crazy mountains, seeing like just an insane amount of elk. Like I said, it was just like amazing place, amazing unit, amazing bulls. And it was just a really awesome experience. And then Omar had to go back to work
01:15:18
Speaker
And then fast forward a few days of just looking at our bulls, analyzing them and be like, oh, for this tag, I think we can maybe do like a smidge better or allow one's like way too young or whatever like that. Lo and behold, we found this bull and he was just like an old bull like away from the cows, which for some reason the rut it seemed like last year was maybe like a little bit delayed because this was like mid October and there was still like a lot of bulls with cows.
01:15:43
Speaker
It was nice to find one that was away from the cows and didn't have as many eyes on it and stuff because we still wanted to put the muzzle to try and get in close. We put a stock on it and got in close, but then we just ran out of light and just couldn't make it happen. Then the next day it snowed.
01:15:59
Speaker
typical for a Brady Miller hunt and we turned him up again in the same area. We hiked back down into that canyon, got up and then we got in, I think it was around like 280 or 300 yards and I'll let the rest might be shown on video but basically ended with a gigantic bull on the ground and a crazy story.
01:16:20
Speaker
but it was pretty crazy. I was the biggest bull I've filmed on a hunt yet die. It was, it was a crazy experience. Like I walked up on it and it was the biggest bull I ever seen in real life, like in front of me. It was just really, it was really emotional experience. Not a Cabela's or shields. Yeah. Not a Cabela's or anything like that. It was a really cool experience. And we spent two days cleaning them up and get them out of there. Yeah. It was just really good time. Really good. Huh? With Brady made some good memories with them. Yeah, it was a good story. Really good story.
01:16:51
Speaker
That's awesome, dude. We're like at the hour and a half mark on this thing. I've been normally an hour podcast. We can go all day. Just awesome stories, dude.
Upcoming Releases and How to Follow
01:17:01
Speaker
I guess. We'll have to do a part two. We'll have to do a part two, man. Get back on it again. We'll bring you back on and do it again because you're a fun podcast. I want to hear about this season too. Where can we find you? What do you got coming up? What films are dropping? How can we support you?
01:17:16
Speaker
Yeah, I would say, first of all, thank you so much for having me on because this has been awesome and I seriously can't believe it's been an hour and a half. But yeah, I would say some of the main places you can see some of my stuff, like the little pulled YouTube channel, there's a number of films on there. I'm as well at the go hunt YouTube channel. But then I'll also be trying to like share and post as much as I can, like on my socials this year. I'm just kind of resharing the brands that I've made films for, but also I'm making films for this year. My Instagram is just my name with Dusenbehr.
01:17:43
Speaker
I try and post all my hunting films and stuff on my website too, which is just Luke Duesenberryphotography.com. But that's probably a pretty good place to see most of it. Or just reach out. Send me a DM if you want to see some stuff or whatever. That's awesome. Thanks, dude. We'll do part two again, sooner than later, because this was fun. Be blessed, bro. Thanks for coming home. Definitely, Drew. Thank you so much, man.
01:18:11
Speaker
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