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Election Day Chaos? Here’s How Christians Should Respond Regardless of the Outcome
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In this episode, Dan Sanchez, along with Ridley Barron, Kyle Hess, and Jon Ballard, tackled the challenges and responsibilities Christians face around election day. They discussed whether Christians should vote, the importance of participation, and the potential responses to the different election outcomes. Emphasizing patience, grace, and the need to engage thoughtfully in the political process, the hosts shared how believers can model peace and faith regardless of political results. They also reflected on the need for active, consistent involvement in government beyond election day, urging Christians to approach both politics and their communities with a spirit rooted in Christ-like values.
Timestamps:
00:01 Opening: Election day reflections and the importance of voting
04:00 Responding to potential election outcomes
07:24 Civil unrest and reactions in different scenarios
11:39 Encouraging healthy Christian responses post-election
15:29 Engaging in constructive, respectful political conversations
19:32 Parenting through the election: lessons in faith and peace
23:09 Ongoing involvement in local governance and community
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Transcript
Introduction and Hosts
00:00:01
Dan Sanchez
Welcome back to the Grove Hill Church podcast. I'm Dan Sanchez, and I'm joined by Ridley, Kyle, and John today.
Significance of Election Day
00:00:07
Dan Sanchez
And today is a special day. It's a day we've seen coming for four years. It feels like it's been in the making. And that is election day, November 5th in the US. Of course, everybody listening here is in the US. so no news there. But I
Christian Participation in Voting
00:00:25
Dan Sanchez
figured we can make the podcast today about this topic because it's impacting a lot of people, certainly emotionally, if not just mentally, because it's it's the thing everybody's thinking about talking about and will be shortly after this episode or at least the day after this episode gets published, you know, we'll maybe have some results. But before we dive into the possible outcomes,
00:00:46
Dan Sanchez
and how people should be thinking or processing those outcomes. I want to kick it out. like if if it's still If it's still Tuesday, should Christians be involved in this process?
00:01:00
Dan Sanchez
Should Christians vote and why?
00:01:01
Jon
Thank you.
00:01:03
Ridley
Uh, absolutely. If you haven't voted, you have until 7 PM central standard time tonight to go vote, go get
Personal Voting Experiences
00:01:09
Ridley
in line. In fact, if you're in line at 6 59 PM and the door shut, you should stay in line because they are required by law to continue to allow you to vote until everybody is done.
00:01:17
Dan Sanchez
go.
00:01:19
Ridley
There's your commercial.
00:01:19
Dan Sanchez
Have you voted?
00:01:20
Ridley
Get it done. I voted early. I went ahead and got it done two weeks ago.
00:01:24
Dan Sanchez
I voted this morning. Got my sticker.
00:01:26
Kyle
i voted this morning saw you at the polls dan
00:01:29
Dan Sanchez
There you go.
00:01:30
Kyle
you know
00:01:31
Jon
Definitely agree.
00:01:33
Dan Sanchez
You voted John.
00:01:33
Jon
We have a. We have it. Oh yeah. Yeah. I did the two weeks ago.
00:01:37
Dan Sanchez
Okay, there you go.
00:01:37
Jon
Mine took a whole five minutes.
00:01:38
Dan Sanchez
I was gonna say like social pressure.
00:01:40
Jon
Yeah. Saturday morning, couple of weeks ago, it was nice and easy.
00:01:44
Ridley
Yep.
00:01:45
Dan Sanchez
Yep.
00:01:45
Ridley
And that's the thing. It's such an easy process nowadays.
00:01:48
Dan Sanchez
Yeah.
00:01:48
Jon
Oh yeah.
00:01:49
Ridley
if you If you put it off, put it off, put it off, you actually make it a harder thing for yourself.
00:01:50
Kyle
I voted this morning, saw you at the polls, Dan.
00:01:54
Ridley
they They do a good job of trying to make it, it's at least here in the state of Tennessee, making it fairly easy for you to do it.
00:02:01
Kyle
Yeah, I would say is
Impact of Non-Participation
00:02:02
Kyle
is along the lines of should you vote, it's an absolutely, someone very close to me used to not vote and they were the biggest complainer about society that I ever knew.
00:02:12
Kyle
And finally me and my brothers ended up saying, hey, who did you vote for? And this person said that they didn't vote. And so we said, then you don't really have an opinion on the situation.
00:02:24
Kyle
And so it really does, as Christians, we tend to, to
00:02:25
Ridley
Absolutely.
00:02:28
Kyle
bigger more than we should about current standings in society. if you're not voting, you're part of the issue with the standards in society. And so think it's, one of you might know better, but I think it's 30 million Christians don't vote. they don't They're not registered to vote. And so that's a huge that's a huge chunk for biblical morals and values that we should be voting into our system.
00:02:52
Ridley
especially when you consider that four years ago, it was less than a couple of hundred thousand votes that separated the two candidates when the final thing was determined.
00:02:53
Jon
Yes.
00:02:59
Ridley
So 32 million Christians sitting at home is a big deal.
00:03:03
Jon
Yeah. and And I think that too, this thought that you can have compartmentalized Christianity is insane. It has to impact and intersect with everything you do.
00:03:15
Dan Sanchez
Everything.
00:03:17
Ridley
And even our Amish brothers and sisters are doing it and in record numbers this year.
00:03:20
Dan Sanchez
Whoo!
00:03:22
Ridley
Went out and voting. Had a boy for the Amish.
00:03:25
Dan Sanchez
So if you're
Emotional Impact of Results
00:03:25
Dan Sanchez
listening to this now and it's still Tuesday, have you voted yet? If not, like, you know where you're supposed to be going. Okay. Like go, go make it happen.
00:03:30
Ridley
Yeah, right. Yeah.
00:03:33
Dan Sanchez
ah You get out to wait in line, but it's okay. You have an iPhone, you know, you can be listening to this show while you wait or, uh, there you go.
00:03:35
Ridley
All right.
00:03:39
Ridley
Kroger stays up until nine. You can still make it to the grocery store after it's over with.
00:03:42
Dan Sanchez
Yeah.
00:03:43
Ridley
Go do what you got to do and and get it done.
00:03:44
Dan Sanchez
You will be okay.
00:03:47
Dan Sanchez
Without that out of the way, most people will probably be listening to this post-election. like Election could be closed.
00:03:52
Ridley
Right. right
00:03:54
Dan Sanchez
Everyone's saying it's a close race. I guess it can go anyway. I kind of always prepare my heart for like the worst option, and then just kind of like if it's the upside, then I'm like, oh, good, great.
00:04:03
Ridley
Yeah, there you go.
00:04:03
Dan Sanchez
I was wrong just to embrace myself. but Let's look at the I have four different scenarios which most for the president presidential election because of course there's other elections going on for senate and congress and state staff and all all kinds of things even local things but I most people are focused on the presidential race a lot of mental strain, um a a conversation certainly and uh, even emotional, uh, well-being gets tied up into this stuff so what I want to do is kind of walk through four different scenarios that I've seen and see essentially let y'all speak to it. Like how should the congregation react to these four situations?
Potential Reactions to Outcomes
00:04:47
Dan Sanchez
So let's dive into all four. The first one is Trump wins. How do we feel Wednesday as that goes about?
00:04:57
Ridley
I was waiting for the conclusion of that sentence, Trump wins, the left has a meltdown. I don't see there's any scenario where Trump's win comes across as a peaceful transition of power. I hate to be a pessimist, but I believe whether it's Antifa or Soros-backed groups or crazy white ladies from the suburbs, I don't care who it is, there's going to be some There's going to be some people raising sand in lots of different varieties in the weeks that follow if he wins.
00:05:32
Dan Sanchez
Maybe it's just assumed then because I had four different scenarios, but I'm like, maybe like my first two scenario of Trump wins Kamala wins is that Trump wins. And the other side throws a ruckus, uh, about election fraud.
00:05:48
Dan Sanchez
And then the reverse for Kamala is probably what's going to happen.
00:05:51
Ridley
Yeah.
00:05:54
Kyle
So I saw it firsthand when Trump won the first time I was on a college campus and I watched grown adults lay face first on the concrete and tears rolling out of their face screaming.
00:05:54
Dan Sanchez
So.
00:06:08
Kyle
and We're much further deeper into this. They hate Trump more now. They're even more resistive now. And so I think that's just a small indicator of what like Ridley was saying, something possibly and A bunch of civil unrest, potentially riots these bigger cities where people are trying to put their foot down. doesn't It doesn't change the outcome though. We have to, as a nation, if we had standards and we have laws, then if that's the case, then come January, he's going to be rolling into the the presidential seat.
00:06:45
Ridley
Yeah, i've I've actually seen two where a couple of states have already put their National Guard on standby. One of them being Washington, of course, which was constantly in turmoil and in flames during the whole Black Lives Matter part of it a couple of years ago. So they've already caught up their National Guard, got them ready to go. So they're expecting the same kind of response we're expecting if it turns out to be a Trump victory.
Media Reaction to Election Results
00:07:10
Jon
Yeah, definitely. I think there's going to be unrest either way, but I think, you've already seen from different, you know, standpoints throughout, uh, liberal culture that they're not satisfied unless it's this. And now they're even, you know, works of literature, news outlets, they're calling for violence. Uh, they're not resting at the fact of we're going to go into this forum and speak peaceably.
00:07:40
Jon
They've shown that over the last couple of years and I think they'll continue in that vein and they'll make it probably even more pronounced. Uh, to what level? I don't know. I do think that violence is going to be, you know, very much emphasized.
00:07:58
Dan Sanchez
It'll be interesting. yeah I think here in chapel Hill, people probably be excited that it swung that way. And I don't, it seems to be a pretty, uh, bright community.
00:08:10
Ridley
Pretty rad city.
00:08:11
Dan Sanchez
So, but then there'll always be something new to complain about, but the responses less than enthusiastic, or the opposite.
00:08:12
Ridley
Yeah.
00:08:22
Dan Sanchez
So the next scenario, we have Kamala wins. And I imagine the news the conservative news media will go the full the other way, and the same in the same way, like election fraud.
00:08:38
Dan Sanchez
voter voter vote vote fraud like people coming in by the busload and this and that so it happened last time it'll probably be even more pronounced this time because people will be looking for it waiting it and they'll be saying you know you know what their counter arguments are gonna be like oh you guys have been cooking the steps from the beginning yeah you're just playing the same same book just to accept accept it like it happened last time yeah
00:08:48
Ridley
Yeah.
00:08:57
Ridley
Yeah. to To be clear. Either way this election goes tonight, I expect there will be fallout from either side. I do, to your point, Dan, believe that the the main bulk of fallout from the conservative side in the case of a Harris victory will be lawsuits, will be pushback, will be claims of cheating, those kinds of things. And and I'll just say this, I go on record in saying this, I don't care who wins, somebody cheated. Our election system is now beyond
00:09:31
Ridley
I think beyond question, it has been compromised in so many ways by both sides. it's It's no wonder Americans are staying home because they've lost confidence in the system. And I think it's a tragedy tragedy that we can't come up with some better way to vote and preserve the right of vote and the sanctity of that vote here in the United States of America, where we have technology that can shoot us to the moon, but we can't cast a ballot without preserving the rights of those people.
00:09:55
Jon
and
Mature Reactions and Peace
00:09:58
Dan Sanchez
I will say that I use good.
00:09:58
Jon
Yeah, it's I would say it's a 2.0 answer for me. It's going to be the same thing, the the violence aspect, but I think it goes to this point too, that we as a culture have come to this point of ground to where if you don't see in line with me, I'm going to do everything I can to shut you out. And it's even to the point of we can't have a discussion. It's I'm going to make you, you know, feel my point of view, even to the point of doing drastic things. We can't sit down at a table and have a conversation and be okay with the agree to disagree.
00:10:37
Jon
Uh, people sadly have no patience in, in very, very many aspects. And it gets to that now. And I think you'll see that if, uh, a Harris, uh, walls when happens, I just think that's going to be a, a very realistic point. Uh, just little bit of patients, people who've tried to be patient over the last 10, 12, 16 years.
00:11:04
Jon
They're losing patience because there's a drastic a widening of the gap, so to speak, in the political forum.
00:11:13
Dan Sanchez
What would make you proud of the congregation of Grove Hill if one of these happened? like if As they react as ah ah as ah ah as a group, what what is what does success look like?
00:11:23
Ridley
Go ahead, Garth.
00:11:24
Kyle
to shut up on social media. i think i think you can I think you can have feelings. You can have your opinion. You can have all those types of things. if you start talking and yapping and getting into conversations, you show a lot of times the corruption of your heart rather than the sanctified part of your heart, ah especially when you get on the internet and you start arguing on the internet, it gets personal and you you sit behind a keyboard and you could say whatever you want. And so my encouragement is that the town. the town
00:11:58
Kyle
can look at Grove Hill as a lighthouse that's steady and stable, no matter what the outcome is, and not look like there's a division or anger or you could disapprove of the of the result.
00:12:11
Ridley
Yeah.
00:12:12
Kyle
But it doesn't mean you can act like a fool when you get the result.
00:12:16
Ridley
I would agree with Kyle. I think first of all, remind your manners on Facebook, social media, be slow to speak, slow to become angry. You can't change the outcome of the election by anything you put on your Facebook posts.
00:12:30
Ridley
Let's wake up tomorrow morning and realize the one who rules the universe still rules the universe. And as Daniel 4.25 tells us, the most high rules over all the kingdoms of the earth and he gives them to whoever he wants to. This has been determined by Longshot by the God who rules the universe. And it's our decision, our responsibility to live according to the God who rules the universe, to live by his standards, not by the standards the world's going to throw at us.
00:12:59
Jon
Yeah, I think a good response would be that Grove Hill Church, the resolve to see the gospel go where it needs to go would grow even stronger, no matter what happens. if If some of those who believe that this candidate over here gives them more rights to exercise their faith, then you better be using them. If that candidate, so to speak, gets into place, don't just sit there, you know, you got, you know, this candidate that you voted for will do something about it. If they're letting you exercise your faith in a greater way, don't just be okay with it because four years from now it could change again. So,
00:13:45
Jon
definitely have resolve doing those things, having patience, having kindness, but do something about it because we control certain things. and We can't just always leave it up to government officials. God gives us responsibilities as believers. So we we definitely have to respond in a quick and active way.
00:14:04
Ridley
I would love to just add something because John stirred my thoughts on this right here. You know, I've been watching both sides. One of the accusations they both have been throwing at each other a lot is if that candidate wins, we're going to lose the freedom to speech. We're going to lose the freedom to express ourselves in certain things. And I really would love to post a post out there and say, why after 250 years are you suddenly concerned about whether or not you're going to get to speak the name of Jesus? Because you've had that freedom for 250 years and most of you don't use it.
00:14:29
Dan Sanchez
So we know not we know now what not to say. which What should we be saying then? Because certainly Christians shouldn't just be quiet and sit on the sidelines. So how does it usually go? Do we only come out to vote and say nothing? Or do we actually engage?
00:14:46
Ridley
I think we got to be actively engaged in the culture and to to a point, re-establishing that Jesus is counter-culture. but We shouldn't look like the rest of the world. We shouldn't act like the rest of the world. We shouldn't think like the rest of the world. We should be attracting the rest of the world because we are so different, so unique than what the rest of the world offers. So while the rest of the world is a melting down and having fits and and burning buildings and doing riots, we should be at such peace because we know who holds tomorrow.
00:15:16
Jon
Yeah, I think we have to know that there needs to be clarity on where we stand before we start to engage with others. Cause if we don't have clarity ourselves, we go out into conversations and we look pretty bad and they're like, Oh, so that's how Christians are. They're either not prepared. They don't know what's going on. So we go prepared, give ourselves clarity going into those situations. And then when we do, I think we also seek to understand, even if we know that whatever ideology, belief that we're most likely going to talk to, you know, whether it's somebody that we don't know, or maybe close friend or coworker, we have to seek to understand them. And then when it's our opportunity, speak what needs to be spoken, speak it with truth and love.
00:16:08
Ridley
yes
00:16:10
Kyle
I'd say the same thing as far as, I mean, you hear it say to every single family gathering, what are the two things you don't talk about? And that's religion and politics, right?
00:16:17
Ridley
Yes.
00:16:18
Kyle
Because it caused angst between people. But that's probably where we've gotten ourselves today is because we leave those conversations out. We just have to learn how to have those conversations civilly.
00:16:28
Ridley
Uh huh.
00:16:30
Kyle
face to face, hey, let me go buy you a steak dinner and let's talk about this. And I want to just, I don't want to bring emotion into this.
Teaching Children through Elections
00:16:37
Kyle
I just want to bring facts to you. that steak dinner might cost more here in the next couple of days, depending on who gets elected, but, um, have those conversations and just break down those walls in a, in a proper manner. Cause the reason we can't talk about those things is cause we bring emotions and arguments into it.
00:16:53
Kyle
and But if we could just speak truth to people in a loving way, those conversations need to be had.
00:17:00
Dan Sanchez
if the election doesn't go our way. Should we consider it pure joy? Is that a consider pure joy moment? Amy and I have been having lots of conversations around hurdles.
00:17:07
Ridley
Oh.
00:17:11
Dan Sanchez
I think there's a speaker that told us some time ago, and we joke about it in our marriage, like it's a bronze medal moment, as in this is like, this is a hard moment. Is it a silver medal, really hard, or is it gold medal?
00:17:21
Dan Sanchez
Maybe even platinum, that's like cancer level hard, you know you know, to essentially give it a label or award of some kind if you consider it pure joy when you're facing the the obstacle.
00:17:34
Kyle
I'm excited and here's why. I have the opportunity tonight as my kids and I wait up and watch the results or whatever, I have the opportunity tonight to shape how my kids approach situations.
00:17:49
Ridley
That's good.
00:17:50
Kyle
if If we voted for a certain person and that person wins, we could talk about God's design for people to be in place. If we voted for a person and they lose, we could talk about God's design and how he has them in place. And I can walk them through things, take the fear out of the situation, and tomorrow,
00:18:09
Kyle
me and my kids are still gonna focus on the Lord and what he has for us. And so to me, it's exciting. i Obviously I would want a certain candidate to win, but either way, either result is a incredible learning experience for my kids on how my wife and I handle this and how we instruct them that we should handle it through biblical principles.
00:18:33
Kyle
So I'm considering it joy.
00:18:36
Ridley
Good answer.
00:18:37
Dan Sanchez
That's a dang good point. I'm like, dang, I need to do that with my kids. That's a practical lesson right there. Maybe all more of us should be doing.
00:18:44
Jon
Yeah.
00:18:45
Ridley
You know, what I mean, that's that's such a great point, Kyle. I would love to encourage you to shoot a video, put it on the Grove Hill public page and just say, hey, we as a church, we want to challenge you to think about the results this way.
00:18:58
Ridley
I mean, that's good stuff because, I mean, everything in life is about perspective, right?
00:18:59
Dan Sanchez
Yeah.
00:19:04
Ridley
Everything.
Engagement Beyond Presidential Elections
00:19:06
Ridley
you could You could use a whole ah ah lot of illustrations here, but this election tonight gives us a lot of different opportunities regardless of what direction it goes. Let's be honest, both of these people need Jesus very badly.
00:19:18
Dan Sanchez
Oh yeah.
00:19:18
Ridley
So you can start tonight with your family to begin to pray for the president. I would venture a guess that probably something that most of us in our churches don't do on a regular basis. We might do it on occasion. We might do it around ah the Independence holiday or whatever. But for most American Christians, we do not pray, especially if we did not elect that guy. If we did not elect that lady, we we just don't pray for them.
00:19:42
Ridley
so If we're so disturbed that Trump gets elected tomorrow, then get on your knees and start praying that Trump turns out to be the kind of guy that guy can use to change this nation and change this world. This person, whoever they are, is literally called the most powerful person in the world because of their position. You talk about a person of influence, then get your family on your knees, get off of the social media and start praying for these people.
00:20:08
Jon
Yeah, I believe the same thing. We control the controllables. God's going to take care of what God needs to take care of. And when we start to put our hope in the fragility of a man or a woman,
00:20:26
Jon
Oh man, we're misplaced and we've got to align ourselves with, man, where is my joy really found in? And I kind of think back to the, you mentioned the illustration deals.
00:20:38
Jon
I think about people cheering for teams, you know, sports teams. the imitation that we are teaching our children, you know, that some people's hope is literally in the win or a loss of a team and their world falls apart and for their team does not win.
00:20:52
Ridley
Yes.
00:20:57
Jon
And you see that impact every other area of their lives. So yeah, Kyle, to your point, it is, we've got to teach our kids what really importance are we displaying for them?
00:21:10
Jon
So.
00:21:12
Kyle
I've got a scripture that kind of matches up with this and it's Proverbs 4, 25 through 27. It says, let your eyes look straight ahead. Fix your gaze directly before you. Make level paths for your feet and take only ways that are firm. Do not swerve to the left or to the right. Keep your foot free from evil.
00:21:33
Kyle
And so I don't think it's really intending to say the left or the right like politically. But I mean, look at it. if but If we keep our eyes fixed on Jesus, the results will actually go either way.
00:21:47
Kyle
And if I'm firmly fixed my eyes on Jesus, then my feet are landing on a firm path. I'm removing stumbling box blocks away from me and my family. And I could properly assess whatever I'm facing at that time because my eyes are fixed on the one that can manage, change, handle everything that comes his way.
00:22:07
Ridley
You know, i've I've heard Christians on both sides of the fence throughout this election season talk about taking back our country and preserving our freedoms.
00:22:10
Jon
Thank you.
00:22:17
Ridley
and I've been thinking about this a lot. you know the The prayer thing is obviously the most important thing. But why do we talk about that at election time? But the the ah the rest of the four years, we don't do anything to be involved in our government. We don't show up at city council meetings to express our opinions about things. We don't run for office. In fact, we look at people who run for office as being some kind of crazy people that they're taking on that responsibility. But if we're going to change this country, it's not going to happen with one vote every four years.
00:22:47
Jon
Yeah.
00:22:47
Ridley
It's going to happen because Americans say, this is who we want to be. This is what we value. And for 365 days a year, we're going to stand for this. And we'll show up at the meetings that we have to. We'll be at the school board meetings we have to. We'll vote in the other elections that aren't the presidential elections. If you want to take back your country, it doesn't happen every November, whatever. It happens every single day of the year. By the way, you live your life as a Christian in this country.
00:23:11
Dan Sanchez
It's funny. I've, I've had a taste of it this year and, uh, it's hard.
00:23:14
Ridley
Mm hmm. You have.
00:23:16
Dan Sanchez
It's a lot harder than I thought it was going to be just being on the HOA board.
00:23:18
Ridley
Yep.
00:23:20
Dan Sanchez
But I have, I have been to city council meetings because of that. And there it's government, its own world. It's it's has its ways that it operates that I luckily one of our board members is works in the, as a, as a police chief over in Eagleville.
00:23:35
Dan Sanchez
So we kind of understood the system and helped us get a lot of stuff done. But, uh, I will say out of the three of us that got elected last November for our HOA thing, I'm the only one left out of the three.
00:23:47
Ridley
Oh, wow.
00:23:48
Dan Sanchez
The other ones have left early and found replacements. So I'm serving with a whole different team now.
Local Governance Involvement
00:23:53
Ridley
Your hair's looking a little gray.
00:23:54
Dan Sanchez
It's hard. But at the same time, I have to imagine like if I, I don't know, like who else like if if I wasn't in there, then somebody else might be influencing even just this little neighborhood.
00:24:08
Ridley
Yep.
00:24:09
Dan Sanchez
And so, as much as I'm like, I wish I would have done the same thing as they did. It's kind of like, well, it's like, we've made some good progress and changed some good things. People still like to.
00:24:19
Ridley
Well, I think most of, I think most of America is waking up to this fact and what's happened in our public schools because the school boards have been taken over by people who the basically they're Marxists who are rewriting the rules for our school districts and rewriting how we're going to affect our kids and even rewriting what the intention of public schools is altogether.
00:24:20
Dan Sanchez
Yeah.
00:24:24
Dan Sanchez
Yeah.
00:24:37
Ridley
And finally, I would say finally just normal parents, not just all Christians. There's people who are non-Christians are starting to show up at these board meetings and say, this isn't what we want for our kids. This is what we isn't what public schools were designed to do.
00:24:50
Ridley
And I think we're beginning to see that turn a little bit. I think it's going to continue to go that way.
00:24:53
Dan Sanchez
Absolutely.
00:24:54
Ridley
If people stay involved, but if we pull back, then we'll lose it again and we'll only have ourselves to blame for it.
00:24:59
Dan Sanchez
That could happen real fast in Chapel Hill. So we're going to make sure to show up, be present and keep showing up.
00:25:02
Ridley
Yep. That's right. That's right.
00:25:08
Dan Sanchez
Starting with tonight, if you haven't gone and voted, now's the time. If you're like wrapping up this podcast and you haven't voted, make some plans.
00:25:11
Ridley
How is it?
00:25:16
Dan Sanchez
But if you're post, then I think Kyle, you had a great word on considering it pure joy. If you're a parent, training your kids up in this to look at God, to be at peace, knowing that God's in control of who who who the leader of the nation is.
00:25:32
Dan Sanchez
So go with that as you're probably listening to this post-election, but if not, go and take some action and be at peace.