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Is Human Photosynthesis Real? Dr. Arturo Solís Herrera | Underground Physiology #03
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Dr. Arturo Solís Herrera has written extensively about a fascinating and unconventional theory: melanin, the pigment commonly linked to tanning, may generate energy in the human body by splitting water molecules. This process, he proposes, produces energy through molecular hydrogen while also releasing usable oxygen for bodily tissues. Though his ideas challenge mainstream science, we’ll take a deep dive into his research and reasoning. The concepts can be steeped in complex physiology, which might feel dense for the average reader, but focus on grasping the big picture. We’ll cover a lot in a short time, so sit back and enjoy the exploration.
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Introduction to Dr. Herrera and Human Photosynthesis
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to my next episode of Underground Physiology. In this episode, we have Dr. Herrera, and we're going to talk about melanin and how it creates energy in the body and a very unique concept he calls human photosynthesis.
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um When I first came upon his work, it really opened my eyes, and i thought, I have to get this guy on my podcast so that we can explore this concept because in exploring physiology, I've always thought there was more to human energetics than just glucose and the mitochondria and things like that.
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So Dr. Herrera runs a facility in Mexico called the Center for Human Photosynthesis. He has done research on the molecule of melanin, which is in the human body.
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And we're going to explore its ability to disassociate water and what he's discovered. He is an ophthalmologist and a PhD, has published several articles that have been in peer-reviewed literature, has written a book that you can find on Amazon called Human Photosynthesis.
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And I want to welcome you to my podcast where we explore topics in physiology that are uncommon but need to be explored. And so...
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I would like to just talk first, ah ask you how you came about discovering melanin and its properties as an ophthalmologist and what led you to understand how it works with water in the body.
Melanin's Role in Energy and Oxygen Production
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What else? What else? I don't know. don't remember. It's treatment calcium. Treatment calcium. Okay.
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okay I'm okay, I can hear you. Uh-huh. Okay. The treatment cause of blindness and the optic nerve, the blood vessels of the optic nerve.
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The optic nerve is a so small structure. ah struck you It's microns or twelve you my haveves together it's always more
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trying to find a relationship with the the treatment cause of blindness that is the same cause in all the world.
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it This is macular degeneration, diabetic retinopathy, and... um yeah is the treatment cause of blindness in all the world.
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It's interesting. And it was 12 years and 6,000 patients.
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And because since the first weeks of this observational study,
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i've I noticed certain um details in the anatomy of the optic nerve and the surrounding tissues that draw me the attention.
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And I follow. And 12 years later and 6,000 patients later, I understood that our body,
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oxygenate itself.
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It's amazing. So you discovered that there was melanin in the optic nerve and and then you also discovered, we we've gone to discover that melanin is throughout the whole body and then you started to work with how melanin is such a unique molecule and wasn't there something about how the you were curious about how the optic nerve got its energy was that correct?
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ah At first it's just the blood vessels but by first I saw that melanin is around the optic nerve in all human beings
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and So nature insists in important things because melanin is considered just a sunscreen, simple sunscreen.
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But the optic nerve is almost three centimeters deep. We need a sunscreen three centimeters deep.
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No way. And second, I i you found that melanin and the blood vessels of the optic nerve obey to melanin.
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Respond to melanin. More melanin, less blood vessels, and vice versa.
Melanin as an Alternative Energy Source
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So... and what Why is that? Why is that? That's yes. And I'm looking for many compounds, many organic compounds, and I can found because it's very it's very constant, the effect.
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More melanin, less blood vessels. More melanin, blood vessels, and vicepresso. And until finally consider the oxygen because the the oxygen is ah is a very powerful vasoconstrictor.
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It's a very powerful... why Did you say vasoconstrictor? Did you say vasoconstrictor? Yes. Okay. But this oxygen, high levels of oxygen from where?
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From where? Because it's a lot of oxygen, almost five times more than the atmosphere. So you're seeing a lot of tissue oxygen, but you're wondering where it's coming from, right?
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Because it's a lot of oxygen. Five times more than the atmosphere. It's a measure. And you're wondering where it was coming from, so you had to do so that there was some other mechanism that was getting the oxygen in there versus coming from the blood vessels, correct?
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Yes. And so that led you into and discovering and figuring out this disassociate melanin's ability to disassociate in water, correct?
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Yes. Okay. Which is really the fundamental aspect of what we're talking about here. And so met you equate melanin and its ability to disassociate water and produce these electrons and these electrons give us this source of energy.
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Is that correct? Oh, okay. When water is ah dissociated, we get oxygen and hydrogen. Right.
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And hydrogen is the energy carrier for excellence in the universe. Correct. So our body cannot be different anyway.
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So inside our body, hydrogen is transported, the energy that is released when water molecule is break.
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And the energy is release is catch in certain proportions by the molecular hydrogen. And it's transported inside the cell.
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so I mean, the electron is not is not a source of energy. our men artist least a trust fully a energy transport because the electron travels close to speed light.
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So it's it's very difficult to control. And hydrogen is not travel so far, but have energy And this cell takes the energy from hydrogene very well.
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It's a very verbal kind of energy, the the energy that the hydrogen has.
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And you're talking about molecular hydrogen, two hydrogens together, correct? H2, yes. it's two and Then, so the what happened?
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Now I was thinking that the electron would go through the electron transport chain, but you're not thinking that, is that correct? No, because it's theoretical. Okay, so it's all theoretical what happens to the electron.
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And so we're really dealing with hydrogen, molecular hydrogen. Is it in the form of a gas then? Is ah is that molecular hydrogen? is gas. Okay, and so this is what's burned and produces the energy that is equivalent to the, what you're saying is human photosynthesis versus like a plant uses chlorophyll and lignin, I think. you said You said melanin is the equivalent of lignin in a plant, or hemoglobin is the equivalent of chlorophyll. Yes.
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ah Because the ability of lignin in the plant to reassociate water, but similar to melanin, is that correct?
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Yes.
Industrial Production and Health Implications of Melanin
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Okay. but And so it basically creates a closed loop system, is that kind of correct? Where you get this fuel cell effect and ah almost a perfect battery, correct?
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Yes, but it's not burned. Hydrogen is not burned. Is not what? Burn. Burn. Okay. yeah No, no. The heat is a very magnificent kind of energy.
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The cell takes the energy of the hydrogen in many ways, but it's not combined it with oxygen to produce flame. No, no.
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So it's not producing carbon dioxide as a waste product? No, in that way, no. Okay. And So
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you've done all this research with actually proving that you can take, and it's light is the, the photon energy is the catalyst to exciting this process.
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And you demonstrated that in your lab by producing, you know, ah physical current that, runs like a DC current. Is that correct? In your lab where you can actually run um lights and things like that.
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So you've demonstrated this model using melanin as this almost perfect transducer or I don't know how to say it, but generator.
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And so you've taken it from just a theoretical model and you've actually used melanin And now what you're doing, I see in your lab, is you're producing products. And so these products have using melanin as this substrate for building products. And you also theoretically mentioned about using it as an alternative energy source, which is quite interesting because, you know, everybody's looking for more efficient energy sources instead of using silicone like a
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your theoretically is that melanin would be a better source for for solar energy right yes indeed yeah and so your lab is doing ah lots of this research in different ways not only in the health aspect but using this molecule melanin i'm curious how you accumulate melanin i know it's it's been around for you know, millions of years. it's It's one of these conserved molecules through all life forms and we all have it.
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And it's the perfect absorber of all the spectrums of light. We only we tend to think it's just UV, but it actually absorbs all of the light spectrums magnificently. i this So how how do you um how do you gather enough melanin for your experiments and and generating? Where do you get your melanin? Because I don't think we can make it, correct?
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Oh, yes, it can be produced, but it's difficult. But with my experiments, we can produce
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node melanin to make my experiments.
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you been Okay, so ah you can produce it, okay, as a substrate to actually bring it to scale, correct? Do you remember Edward Keith?
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Yes. Yeah? I know the name. and the The sleeping prophet? prophet Yes. Okay. They say that when melanin is produced industrially, the humankind we will be in another stage.
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Will be a great advance. Edward Case. off Interesting. That's interesting. Yeah, so so you have taken this and not only use it as you have a specific um product that you have made that helps with this disassociation because I think in your literature and you said that as we age, our health depends on our ability to disassociate water through melanin in our body throughout, and it's actually...
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and and ah an adjacent or adjuvant energy source because we we tend to think of the mitochondria as being the only energy source. You know, we get sugars and then we develop this.
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But obviously melanin is a potential source that you say is generating a significant amount of energy in our body and that our health depends on this process itself.
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significantly and as we age it diminishes is that correct yeah so so do you you know since melanin is produced in our body and it's um we make it when we go out in sunlight and uv light do you advocate um making sure that we get outside and get enough light exposure so that we can actually continue to produce this Because one of the one of the aspects of my podcast is that we are extremely what I call photon deficient in our modern living. We live indoors too much and that these spectrums of light that we think are only toxic are actually very helpful.
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and mean Am i correct on that, would you say? Yes, because our body takes the oxygen and hydrogen for water. and the water must have oxygen, dissolved oxygen.
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the the When the drinking water has low level of dissolved oxygen, our body cannot make the process well and some disease appear because any disease begins when the balance of oxygen is not accurate.
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Because it's a very quiet, curate process. And it's the same process since the beginning of time. But with water polluted, iron polluted, food polluted, the process of oxygen is in its way.
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and know you're saying, yes. And so, and I but i believe what I understand is that you feel that Oxygen primarily comes from this disassociation of water, not the oxygen we breathe, which is a fundamental which is a fundamental shift from normal physiology thinking. Is that correct?
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Everything begins with it with the balance of oxygen inside the cell. Right, and it comes from this disassociation of water not the oxygen we breathe through our mouth.
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No, we breathe only need to expel CO2. CO2. And so, yes, and that yeah hypoxia or low oxygen, if we can't disassociate water okay from melanin, as the oxygen level goes down in our tissue, that produces its ah it's hypoxia, which then is associated with disease.
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Is that correct? Yes. We see it begins with hypoxia. Intracerbary hypoxia. Right. And so, in your theory, it's very important to keep this water disassociation process but it's going, and you're saying that modern life of toxins in the food and imp impede this disassociation process. Is that correct? Yes, yes, yes.
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Because it's quite accurate, so it's quite sensitive. Correct. this is you know This is a completely different physiology than is taught in the textbooks.
Challenging Traditional Physiology Paradigms
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and so but And the reason I wanted you to come on, because I'm trying to expose the population to understandings, and it's almost like our physiology departments and colleges just get stuck in a model that's about 60 years old. Wouldn't you think that's an accurate statement? else and
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So I find it fascinating that researchers like you and that have come across melanin's ability to be this amazing energy processor and that develop these ah processes are very, it's very difficult for you to get traction in the research world, is that correct?
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Yes, because the chlorophyll is dissociated, irreversible, the water molecule. Right.
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But must be inside a cell. That's why chlorophyll is not used to produce energy, but because in less of 20 seconds is the natural acid.
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But melanin dissociates and reforms the water molecule. It's a complete cycle and functions inside the cell and outside the cell. It's the origin of life.
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So let me ask you a question because we produce a lot of our own metabolic water. Okay, so are we... Does melanin rely primarily on the water that our mitochondria produces, which is deuterium depleted, or does it rely on the water you drink also, or both?
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Both, but the theory that mitochondria... is a source of energy, is theoretical in 97%. It's completely imaginative.
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Well, I know that they don't know, they they certainly do not understand why it theoretically would take a lot more energy to run the human body than the mitochondria can produce.
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And there is a... there is a um a concept in physiology, and I can't remember it, let me just, that talks about, let me just
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pull this up here.
Kleber's Law and Energy Absorption
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Let's see, the Law. Kleber's Law, and so kleber's law You know, your idea of human photosynthesis kind of solves Cleaver's law in that it would make up for the energy needed to run the human body that is not able to be produced by the mitochondria. and
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And is it theoretical that your surface area of your body is important for this melanin to interact with UV light to produce this energy so that larger animals theoretically because they have more surface area um can produce this energy that would be make this equation work? Is that accurate?
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Yes, because bigger if you are, less food you need. Right. And it's because of the surface area with element, right? Is that how that would work? gina
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Antena. Bigger bodies work better like antenna. Oh, antenna. Oh, I got you. Okay. i was I was having a hard time there.
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So that's interesting. So that that makes you know that helps that understanding because you know why would bigger bodies bigger animals need to eat less, theoretically. So your model is that you've got more surface area and our body is an antenna and it uses this UV. And I would think that melanin primarily wants UV light. Is that correct? Or is it all parts of the spectrum? it's um It's a little bit more, but it's not.
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It's all the spectrum. Visible and invisible, because our body needs light, even the bone marrow.
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And the bone marrow is reached by invisible lights. but But even bone marrow needs light to dissociate water and molecule. It's within any process.
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Now, I know that infrared light penetrates pretty deep, and so theoretically that can drive some of this equation because it can get to the deeper areas of the body. Do you think that but are you know we produce bio photons at a weak level in our cells in the body that produce this UV light?
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Do you think that that is also a driver of some of this because of the deep tissue? Well, yes, but it's an accessory mechanism. The direct mechanism is the oxygen and hydrogen production.
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This is the basic processes and everything is after everything because the oxygen and hydrogen production is in the range of nano and picoseconds.
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Melamine needs a trillion of seconds to split the water molecule. So it's...
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Very fast. that Do you think that it's mostly relying upon infrared light though at the deep tissues then or not? It's all light. It's all wavelengths. so it's all wavelength Yeah, but some of the wave lights can't penetrate to the deep tissue. That's what I'm wondering. if we're you know from right our body Our body produces a lot of infrared light, and and so I'm just wondering if that is the major one. And our body produces this low-intensity UV light, and I'm wondering if it uses some of those frequencies also.
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What do you run your melanin experiments with in your lab with generating this current? What what light do you use? Sunlight. Sunlight?
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Yeah. Okay, how about just regular indoor lighting? It works, but sunlight is better. Sunlight is just a lot more intense, I would think. like moral more Yeah, more good. Yeah. Talk about your applications in your ah thought ophthalmology practice in terms of how you...
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um use these concepts
Applications in Ophthalmology and Health Improvements
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with your patients. And I know you have a substance that you that you use to help with this disassociation process.
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And if you could talk to me about that substance that you use, do you use this with your patients to then, when they come in with macular degeneration or some sort of eye problem, how do you approach them with knowing this knowledge and and with your compound that you use to help with this water disassociation for health? yeah It's because disease begins with the imbalance of the oxygen inside the cell. It's astonishing great process.
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ay And any disease begin with this balance is empowered. Any disease, the name of disease doesn't matter because the body does not take care of that.
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Does not take care of names, no. So we we found the the the pathway that the body used to increase in in ah in the whole body the water dissociation.
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I could found it and I found a button to push and when this button is pushed the body increases the follow synthesis or water dissociation as you wish.
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And and we the the person feels the bath of oxygen and hydrogen. Because all of the direction is refurbished.
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So this compound that you um you use this with your patients then, just, you know, as a sort of a universal treatment along with the other things that you do?
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Yes, yes, yes, because when we apply this formula, she the the only that we get is the balance of the oxygen. It's the only way, it's the only only final meat.
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And the next step is made by the body. So the body decides what is the next step. And it's very good because the body understood very well the problems, any any problems.
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So in your model, you know, when you look at oxygenation using a pulse oximeter, that's only measuring oxygen combined with hemoglobin, which is not the oxygen in the tissue.
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And so when you measure... What's that? I do, you know, approximate the oximetry. Okay. When you apply our formula, the oximetry values increase.
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And the right during and effect during hours is very effective because the body, in in less of two minutes, oximetry values increase. Okay.
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And you measure them with a tissue oximeter or do you just do the pulse oximeter to look at it on hemoglobin? It's difficult to say, but it's a good idea of c of the body conditions.
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in It's a practical issue. because Yeah. the measurement of the oxygen inside the cells is very difficult. It's very, quite difficult.
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So very difficult this is a very practical and useful and very useful because we put the oximeter, see the mixture and give the CAPI and in less of two minutes,
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So how did you come about discovering or working to find this compound that increases the water disassociation? And I know that you people can purchase this.
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How did you discover it? Is that what you're drinking right there? Is that... Yes, I put it there in water. And Because so the interview... It's...
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it' said This is a stress, but we can't be. The balance is maintaining. Well, thats yeah means you're a bigmon ah um'm go I'm going to go on your website and i want to make sure I can try that substance. how did you How did you figure out what to look for in a substance that increased this process?
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it's ah It's a very complex process. developed by nature along 4 billion years. It's quite complex.
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It's right hi a lot of components. But fortunately, I could identify one bottom, a practical bottom that I push and the photosynthesis. one Yeah, but how did you come about figuring out how to get this molecule that you've discovered to do this. And so, you know, when you're researching, did you have to go through a lot of processes to figure out what improved this?
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Did you have, you know, like in a scientist, you know, did you have to do a lot of experimenting of what compound would improve this process? Because in the retina, in the optic nerve,
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the process is a relatively easy, visible.
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The tissue is, a the change in tissue is easily to see. so okay we see in the ocular fundus of the patient, the effect of the compound.
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But, And what's a lot of combination, but because there is a lot of information in the literature, but it's not understood because researchers think that oxygen comes from the atmosphere.
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So I'm looking for works And simple, I changed the concept and I found a lot of information. So it's, we could say that in the works of the researchers until today could be used to improve the health of the society, just changing.
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the The concept, oxygen must be generated inside the cell. Must be. It's strict. Yeah.
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So with theoretically also, now we discovered that there's a lot of peptides.
Evolutionary Role and Health Benefits of Melanin
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So does more melanin in the body equate to better health?
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And so if I were to stimulate more melanin production, because there are these peptides now that people are um using and one is called melanotan 1 and 2 which are pro melanocyte stimulating hormones or peptides I mean not hormones is that theoretically good to increase the amount of melanin you have in your body for health?
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Yes, yes but then I think that the try to respect the physiology of the body Right.
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It's a push with melanotans, peptides. Okay. But we need to respect the body-wise. Balance.
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Yeah, yeah. Because melanotans have certain problems because we we cannot push so hard because body can't go into imbalance.
00:36:06
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You have a variant now. This is another we're going to dive into your theory of why um people that moved out of Africa lost their melanin in their skin. Melanocytes not the vitamin D hypothesis. It is the fact that when you go to higher latitudes,
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you're not using UV light as much in the way that you would on the equator. Is that correct statements? Like, so that people have that have white skin have lost some of their skin melanin because they're not producing it the same way people are disassociating this water for energy as much as people that are more equatorial with a lot of melanin in their skin. Is that a correct statement?
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Yes, because melanin, is is not just to to to take sunlight. Melanin is used to control the amount of light that most penetrate the body.
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So in Equator, when there's a lot of sunlight, there's a lot of melanin to regulate Why? Because it cannot be a lot of light in the moon.
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It's quite... Okay. So, yes, you're know you're kind of... a Your theory jives with the you know the The common theory is that as you go up in latitude, you lose melanin and the skin so that you know vitamin D can be produced and we don't need it as much. And yours is...
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similar to that, but it's it's basically just that we need that protection from sunlight at the equator and we don't need it at the higher latitudes. In the high altitudes, it's less melanin.
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Right. So the sunlight can pass through skin easily. Right. Because the amount of light is approximately the same one in both.
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But he That's why in cold countries, the people have less melanin in the skin, so the sunlight can pass through but right more fast.
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And this very interesting behavior of melanin. Melanin tries to close the skin so to be close to the source of energy.
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That's why in cold countries, the people are taller, more taller. Yeah. Because it's... So I'm not I don't quite follow you there. So melanin is not on the skin of these people, so it's more internal?
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Is that what you're saying? It never says... And yeah, it's in every cell, but they get taller because of how? Why? Because melanin tries to be close to the source of energy.
00:39:29
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Right. In this case, sunlight. Right. Oh, I see. So that they're getting taller to be closer to the source of sunlight. Ah, okay.
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I wasn't following you. That's interesting. i never thought about that. um um okay Even though you're in the trees follow the climber of laos. Yes.
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it's a climber now yes and So antennae. So the little kids, the children, need lot of food because yeah whole this food you need so they little kids the children ni aut because is not fusion well as antenna.
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do d Yeah, on an antenna, okay. And so you would advocate, I'm sure like I do, that, you know, we are very photon deficient in society and and avoidance of UV light has been pretty much universally taught because a it's thought to be toxic, even but in reality, most of the studies take UV light away from its you know natural infrared, red, all the the sun exposure.
Sunlight Exposure and Eye Health
00:40:54
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And so i would imagine that you would advocate a certain amount of UV light exposure as our nature intended.
00:41:05
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Is that correct? but it Because UV light is just a component of the sunlight. And the melanin works better with the full spectrum.
00:41:21
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Right. If you apply only UV light, you will get a response. But it's more complete, must broke more deep with all the spectrum, like sunlight.
00:41:38
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And that's where you miss a lot of the protection because it's demonized Because when you shine you be light, it does create genetic or DNA problems. But when you have it in the full spectrum, there's buffers. And so that it is a, how can I say it? yeah did It does not have the negative effects that it does when you just shine UV light strictly.
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you know, and as an ophthalmologist, do you find, is there, there's also, isn't there some research that shows that UV light is important for the shape of the eyeball in preventing myopia?
00:42:18
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Yes, but it's because they think the the amount of light is important, but they don't understand why.
00:42:31
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And now we understood that this because more light, more water is essential. Right. So the health of the eye and the and vision is just better.
00:42:43
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And so it's and it's fascinating because in reality, theoretically, you know, sunglasses cut down the amount of light. And so when you're always in sunglasses, I would think that the health of the eye would not be as good.
00:42:59
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And so, I mean, it all depends on the dose you get, but I stopped wearing sunglasses years ago and I swear I see much better now. Is that what you see typically?
00:43:13
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Yeah, because the eye needs sunlight like any part of the body. Right, right. So you must, you really run contrary to typical ophthalmologist thinking I would imagine because the you know dermatologists and ophthalmologists you know say avoid you be sunlight at all costs and all you know cover up and don't use sunscreen and everything and so you're like me and that's why I sought you out because I saw your research and I thought I gotta talk to this guy you know because I like the idea
00:43:53
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that And that's why I call it underground physiology, because these concepts need to be talked about, but they are not out there in the general public because researchers and universities don't have a drug that will fund them to just talk about this new physiology that you're talking about.
00:44:14
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And so, you know, i find it fascinating when we discover that there are new ways of thinking of how our body works.
00:44:27
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And so, yeah i applaud you for thinking out of the box. Yes. you know Well, I know my my putting my and work hypothesis was not to think out of the box, I just want only to help my patients because the treatment cause of blindness are the same cause of blindness in all the world since 70 or 80 years ago. So treatments is not efficient, is not work, are not work. So the patient lose the sight in the same way.
00:45:11
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So I'm looking for something different to help my patient. And I found the origin of life to water dissociation by melanin. So did you?
00:45:25
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Okay. and oh Now let's go back to your patients. And so do you find that the process that you are talking about, do you have reversal of some of these disorders or cures, or is it just slowing down the process? say a person comes in with macular degeneration.
00:45:44
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you know Very good. It's regenerative. You have regenerative. Because the body makes the work. Right. No, the drops.
00:45:56
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It's the body that imbalance. It's very efficient to restore the anatomy and physiology. Right. So do you only use this or do you use drugs and pharmaceuticals also or just this process?
00:46:13
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yeah No, no, because the pharmaceutical drugs is based in that oxygen chrome comes from outside.
00:46:24
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It's wrong. It's wrong. no no No, no. So when you treat your patients, you monitor their improvement in their oxygen and their hydri their the ability for this process to happen and their eyesight improves is that correct?
00:46:43
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Yeah, it's a mean a chiropractor and I work with pain so what about musculoskeletal pain?
00:46:55
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What is when when that is um a what are your thoughts on you know tissue help. I mean, it's a universal process, correct? So theoretically, it'll help with everything. Is that correct?
00:47:10
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Okay. Okay. The muscle needs a lot of oxygen. Water is tissue to relax. her To contract stage less almost zero oxygen.
00:47:33
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It's opposite of the way we think now because we think that we to contract the muscle, we need energy.
00:47:44
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It's not true. It's not true. The highest level of energy is during relaxation phase. I've heard that. It's a very careful relaxation.
00:47:56
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And when we turn down the oxygen, the muscle contract by electromagnetic attractions
Muscle Relaxation and Energy Mechanics
00:48:08
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of opposite chairs between a team and museum.
00:48:14
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But to separate, to relax, we need to increase the this water dissociation and then the... That's explained rigor mortis.
00:48:28
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um Okay. Ah, never thought about that. That's very interesting. Yeah. i write I'm writing an article. I joke about this all the time with my patients, and they say, why am I so tight? I say, well, you suffer from premature rigor mortis, and that's actually kind of true. I'm actually kind of, bra I'm on the right track there. yeah If you apply the KIABID formula topically,
00:49:00
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Yeah. unusual The muscles relax immediately. Relax. Oh, wow. I'm going to have to get this formula because I want to try it. So I know that you have it on your website. Is that correct? Yeah. And so do you ship to the United States?
00:49:20
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Yeah. Yeah. We have the CapiNormal direct box that is three drops under the lingua. one hour or two hours, each two hours, all the time the patient is awake.
00:49:37
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But we also have a reforced concentrate CHIAPI that is three times the CHIAPI sublingual and this reforced concentrate CHIAPI is applied locally in india in the in the in the this In any part we have pain.
00:50:02
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In the knee, okay in the back, in the neck, in everything, and the muscles. And the patients feel an improvement, a magical improvement, because the muscle is relaxed.
00:50:18
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Because has oxygen. That's easy explanation. It has no oxygen to make the complex process of relaxation Relocation is a very complex thing.
00:50:31
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For instance, the tissue is polarized, highly polarized during relaxation. And this highly polarized stage requires a lot of energy, a lot of oxygen.
00:50:47
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The contraction, no, the contraction is easy. Turn down the turnover rate of water dissociation, and the musuk bomb by that fraction.
00:51:02
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Well, that explains where your word is. That perfectly puts it in my mind. I never thought of that before. and I... so yeah so now i can That makes a lot of sense.
00:51:19
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i can't wait to try your on and when need off here i'm going to order some because I want to, you know, it's fascinating because I always try things on myself first, and I look for ways to help my patients in, you know, lots of different areas. And so I do all sorts of unconventional, I would say, treatment approaches because, you know, standard treatments don't work very well, and drugs don't work. i mean, they actually make the problems worse. So you know I work a lot with movement therapy, but muscle tone is a universal problem.
00:51:55
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So I will say, because people ask me all the time, and and I've often thought it mostly has to do with the lack of good incoming nerve function.
00:52:06
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The afferent information coming in to the from the nerve is when you don't have healthy nerves coming in, the default is a state of tightness. And so, you know, that flexor imbalance that we get with as we age where people get this what we call an upper and lower cross. I always thought it was a ah nerve health problem, which it may be, which the nerves could be not having good disassociation of water.
00:52:35
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You know, that is a possibility. But you're saying that just the muscles themselves, because they lose this ability, become premature, rigamardic-type muscles.
00:52:46
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contractile because of the physiology. So that's a completely different concept and I love it because it explains it a little better. Fibromyalgia patients. Okay.
00:53:01
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Say that again? Fibromyalgia patients. Oh, fibromyalgia. Yes, yes. That explains it. With the first dose.
00:53:12
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Because it's a problem of oxygen. Yeah, well, that makes sense. And you've got to have that electron acceptor, you know, with oxygen there. Otherwise, it's just going to go in that. Okay, I am very intrigued now because I knew that you have this product that you devised, and I can see you taking sips of it.
00:53:30
Speaker
um So because we got going a little bit late, I'm going to have to end this podcast a little earlier than I wanted to. But I really appreciate it. And what I'd like to do is I'm going to order your product and try it.
00:53:47
Speaker
And then I want you to come back on after I tried it with myself and possibly some of my patients. Okay. And so we can keep on doing this because I, I'm fascinated um with this, this compound that you're talking about and the idea. I know that it's,
00:54:09
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I say unconventional, you say, no, this is the physiology, and but I'm only saying that in terms of what's on the textbooks, because what's in the textbooks seems to be so many years old, and they don't, you know, they don't advance it at all. No, no, they think, the author thinks that the body is a chuny.
00:54:37
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Okay. No, no. du blow is this why Is this why, like during COVID, when they put everybody on ventilators, 90% of them died because they were trying to force oxygen through the lungs and that's not where it comes
Critique of Conventional COVID-19 Treatment
00:54:52
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from?
00:54:52
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No, is because lungs and the oxygen, they have to do each other. Nothing.
00:55:02
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Lungs repeals oxygen. That's why when we apply oxygen in this way, the lungs tend to be fibrotic because it's a great it's ah it's an um he's a trauma.
00:55:20
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copy During pandemic, when the patient, COVID patient comes to the hospital and the health personnel try to introduce, to force oxygen by the lungs,
00:55:35
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The mortality is unacceptable, high, 70, 80%. No, no, why? Because oxygen and the lung is not partners. No, no.
00:55:49
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Lung is just for CO2 expel and that's it. So that is so radically different than, and so in your theory, you know, a lot of people died unnecessarily because of our misunderstanding of how oxygen gets into tissue.
00:56:06
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Sadly, sadly, because oxygen must come inside the cell because the the metaol the metabolic pathways of oxygen inside the cell is highly complex and the and the body uses a high amount of oxygen, even reach the dangerous level, but the cell...
00:56:27
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tried very well. million But this shows the danger. It's very close. It's amazing. Well, I'm going to stop this recording right
Conclusion and Future Exploration of Theories
00:56:40
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now. I thank you so much, okay, so for coming on and and talking with me. I wish I had a little bit more time today. we got going a little bit late.
00:56:50
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But I really appreciate your dedication to trying to figure out things in a new way, okay and bring this to the public. That's the whole purpose of this. So I'm going to stop this recording now, and I'll talk to you just for a moment, and then I'm goingnna i'm going to try your product. I am going to see, and I'm going to order some, and then we're going to come back again, okay? Okay, I like it.
00:57:17
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So thank you so much. I'm going to stop the recording right now, and then to stay on there.