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EP666: The Power of Your Breath With Sachin Patel
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“The most disruptive thing I’ve ever learned in terms of helping people is teaching them how to breathe.”
Most people think success in business comes from hustling harder or hacking strategy. But often the biggest breakthroughs come from improving our health. This episode explores the powerful role that conscious breathwork plays in regulating the nervous system, boosting energy, increasing focus, and accelerating recovery—all critical to the entrepreneurial lifestyle. When you master your breath, you master your biology. And if you’re in business, your biology is your business.
Sachin Patel brings the science, strategy, and soul of breathwork into focus. From treating chronic illness to transforming anxious entrepreneurs, he outlines how different breathing patterns impact cognitive performance, emotional regulation, and even sales conversations. His stories—of his own son, his wife, and his clients—illustrate how mouth breathing, poor posture, and unaddressed stress compromise everything from immunity to clarity. The solution? A few daily breathwork habits and a deeper connection to your body’s natural rhythm.
Sachin is a renowned functional medicine practitioner, breathwork facilitator, speaker, and founder of The Living Proof Institute. Originally trained as a chiropractor, Sachin shifted focus to functional medicine and breathwork after recognizing how many people struggle with root-cause health issues. Today, he teaches entrepreneurs and health professionals how to use breath as a tool for healing, leadership, and performance.
Expert action steps:
1. Tape your mouth while sleeping – Using simple medical tape at night can dramatically improve your sleep quality, enhance dream vividness, and help you wake up feeling more refreshed by encouraging proper nasal breathing.
2. Become your own best healer – Take charge of your health by embracing the idea that your body is designed to heal itself. With the right knowledge and tools, you can activate your body’s natural healing capacity without depending solely on external treatments.
3. Respect nature’s rules – You can’t out-hack or out-hustle nature. Things like your body’s natural rhythm, nervous system regulation, and proper rest are non-negotiables for health. Just like a plant needs sunlight, your body needs the right conditions to thrive.
Lean more & connect:
Go to breathworkwithsachin.com to find free resources including a breathwork guide, guided meditation, snoring guide, and more.
Also in this episode:
Breath by James Nestor
The Bhagavad Gita
Tiny Habits by BJ Fogg
Visit https://www.eCircleAcademy.com and book a success call with Nicky to take your practice to the next level.
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Transcript
The Future Doctor is the Patient
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You are the doctor of the future. Health has now become democratized and decentralized. Nothing can fix your body better than it can fix itself. Somebody just has to show you, just like we did today, what some of those magic buttons are to push.
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The doctor of the future is the patient.
Introduction to the Podcast
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And what I love doing is I love bringing healing practices into your homes, things that you can do immediately to improve your health,
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Welcome to the Thought Leader Revolution with Nikki Ballou. Join the revolution. There's never been a better time in history to speak your truth, find your freedom, and make your fortune. Each week, we interview the world's top thought leaders and learn the secrets of how they built a six to seven figure practice.
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This episode has been brought to you by ecircleacademy.com, the proven system to add six to seven figures a year to your thought leader practice.
Meet Sachin Patel
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Welcome to another exciting episode of the podcast, The Thought Leader Revolution. i'm your host, Nicky Ballou. And boy, do we have an exciting guest lined up for you today. Today's guest is a true thought leader in the arena of health and wellness.
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This is a man who has fought the good fight to help his clients, to help society at large, frankly, to help humanity learn the truth about what allows you to live life as the healthiest, best version of yourself.
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I'm proud to call him a personal friend. He's one of the finest human beings I know. i am speaking, of course, of none other than the one, the only, the legendary Sachin Patel. Welcome the show, Sachin.
From Chiropractor to Functional Medicine
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Nicky, thank you. What an honor to be here. And what an awesome introduction, man. I feel like I'm getting in the ring of a championship fight, ready to fight for what's right. I appreciate you, our friendship, and I'm super excited about our topic today because I know it's going to blow people's minds.
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Me too. Me too. So, Sachin, you and I know each other very well, but not everybody on the show knows who you are. Although I got to say, when I told the men that you're going to come speak for in a couple of days that you were speaking, one of them instantly recognized you. He said, that guy's awesome. I love him.
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I can't wait to be there. So I'm like, okay, he's pretty famous, I guess, in bigger circles than I know of. But the people that listen to this show, they're not here for me because I'm here every week. They're here to learn from you. But before they can open themselves to you and your wisdom, they got to get to know you. So tell us your backstory. How'd you get to be the great Sachin Patel?
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Well, a great question. Thank you. So I'm originally trained as a chiropractor and doing chiropractic, working with elite athletes, Olympians, medalists in the Olympics, weekend warriors, marathoners, the world's strongest man.
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You know, I worked with everyone from the sickly to the exceptional. And one day I was on the news and in a good way. And as a result of that, we had a whole bunch of people call our practice. The story that they ran, the news ran on us was about elbow pain. We were helping people with lateral and medial epicondylitis, also known as golfer's elbow and tennis elbow.
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Lo and behold, all these people started calling the office and only one of the 80 or so people that called had anything to do with elbow pain. Everyone else that called had all kinds of chronic health issues and challenges, which at the time, just being two years out of practice and ah you know very young at that time, i had no idea how to help these people, but I also didn't know where to refer them to.
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It's one thing to not be able to help someone. It's another thing not to be able to send them somewhere to get the help that they need. And I didn't know where to send them because they tried everything. They'd done everything already. They'd seen all the doctors, had all the scans, taken all the meds, and nothing was helping them.
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And so around that same time, I started getting emails from who would later become my mentor, Dr. Ron Grisanti, ah about functional medicine and how he as a chiropractor was helping people in South Carolina doing advanced lab work, getting to the root cause, doing deeper histories on his clients and reversing the very conditions that I didn't know how to help.
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So I actually went to back to school, if you will, became part part of the first graduating class of Functional Medicine University. So as soon as he launched his program, I i signed up and and I started implementing what I learned in the chiropractic practice that I was working at.
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only to realize that the people who I thought were I was helping, the people who were raving and ranting about me, referring their friends to me for my chiropractic services, were struggling with digestive issues, hormonal issues, sleep issues.
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They thought they were coming to me for their aches and pains, not necessarily realizing that I could help them with other things.
The Power of Self-Awareness and Breathwork
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So that opened up my mind and my heart to dig a little bit deeper and start helping clients in a different way.
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As a chiropractor, our philosophy from the very beginning is that your body's amazing, it's built in the image of God, in the image of source, and nothing can fix your body better than it can fix itself.
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And if that's true for musculoskeletal injuries, why isn't that true for more chronic health conditions? And so as a chiropractor and functional medicine practitioner, i started incorporating this philosophy of skills over pills,
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and testing, not guessing, and identifying and getting to the root cause, whether that's through a thorough history, an environmental assessment, asking the right questions, but also creating the right space for those answers to boil to the surface. Because you know a lot of times when people go to the doctor, they only have a few minutes and the doctor has usually got one foot in, one foot out, and they've already made an assessment before the client even opens their mouth.
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Whereas I try to approach things a little bit differently. And then, you know, I started practicing functional medicine. This is in Cincinnati, Ohio, and then moved to Toronto where I'm from. And my wife and I opened up another location here. And around that time, other practitioners, my colleagues started kind of catching wind of what we were doing. and wanted to learn more about what we do, and i started mentoring my colleagues. So now I've mentored over 17,000 practitioners, almost hard to say it, um over the years, helping them build their practices, helping them you know become better clinicians, helping them become better entrepreneurs.
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And now i in 2020, kind of saw the writing on the wall with everything that was happening, and I realized I needed to find a disruptive way to help people. And the most disruptive thing I've ever learned in terms of helping people is teaching them how to breathe.
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And it sounds so crazy to say that. It might sound like almost like an oversimplification for people, but once you learn about the impact of breathing and what impact it has on your health,
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you will quickly learn that this is the one thing you wish you knew a long, long time ago. And so I became a breathwork facilitator and have facilitated breathwork for thousands of people now.
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But I also learned how breath plays such a huge and important role in our metabolic health and wellness, in our emotional health and wellness, in our physical health and wellness, in the quality of the hormones that we produce.
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in the state of our nervous system. And once I started going down this rabbit hole and teaching it to other practitioners, it's now quickly become the thing that I get flown all over the world to talk about because I can hold space in a facilitation for people, but I can also speak to the science of it.
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And i believe that breath is the so the zenith of both simplicity and sophistication and the sages and the seers have known this for thousands and thousands of years.
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And now we have the science to actually demonstrate and prove it. And so when we had an ah upper respiratory tract infection, if we wanna call it that, going all over the world, killing millions of people along with the treatment itself, nobody was talking about how to breathe.
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And it just seemed like crazy to me that nobody was discussing that topic. And so I decided to lean in go all in. And since then I've you know literally helped thousands and thousands of people learn how to breathe better. And it's something that you don't learn in school. You learn about the lungs, you learn about the heart, you learn about the diaphragm, but you don't learn about how it has such a global impact on health.
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So, you know that's a snapshot of my journey. and And of course, it's it's a never-ending story. So I'm always learning new things and meeting some awesome, cool people like yourself and trying to spread the message as far and wide as I can.
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you know My core philosophy is that the doctor of the future is the patient.
Karmic Currency and Environmental Health
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And what I love doing is I love bringing healing practices into your homes things that you can do immediately to improve your health And of course, there's ways that we can go deeper and work deeper with clients, but I believe that 80% of the journey is self-awareness. And if we can create that self-awareness around key areas of health, one of them being breath, then extraordinary things start happening, not in days or weeks or months, but literally instantaneously. And I'll show some techniques and strategies today that can help people feel better even while they're on this podcast.
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Okay, you've said a lot, man, and that's awesome. All of it's awesome, and we're go to take you up on that. But let's unpack a few of the things you've said, okay? Because obviously, Sachin, from the beginning, you chose a healing and helping path, right? You you decided to become a chiropractor because you wanted to make a difference for people.
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So this is something that is very, very important to you. And I think it's important for people to hear from someone like you how powerful it is to focus on doing good, because doing good has helped you also do very well.
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Could you please make that tie explicit for people, both from your own experience and the work you've done with people? Yeah, you know I have a term for that. It's called karmic currency.
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and you know Money is one way to measure results. It's not the only way to measure your results and certainly not to measure your impact. ah so I've always been of the belief that the more good we do in the world, the more good comes back to us, but it doesn't always come back in the same form of energy that we put out there.
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So if I hold the door open for somebody, it doesn't necessarily mean that someone else is going to hold the door open for me. It may, but it may not. It may mean that somebody else is going to let me get into the right lane that I need to, or maybe somebody is going to let me have the parking spot, or maybe somebody is going to give me that extra you know topping that I didn't pay for.
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So I believe in karmic currency. And this is also a philosophy from the Gita. The Gita is probably one of India's greatest gifts to humanity. The Bhagwat Gita literally translates to the song of God.
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And in that book or in that song, if you will, one of the messages is detachment from fruit. And as entrepreneurs, it's really easy for us to become attached to the outcomes.
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But when we detach from the outcome, And just realize that the more good you do in the world, the more goodness and greatness comes to you, the more opportunities come to you, then it's just a totally different way of approaching life. And what I believe is that karmic currency opens up doors that money can't.
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And so that's been my philosophy from day one. I try to share as much value as I can wherever I go. Sometimes people share i say i share too much of value and I give it all away, but I'm totally okay with that because I can't take with take it with me.
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So I may as well leave it wherever I'm at. I really love the the term karmic currency. And I really love the last ah thing you said that karmic currency opens up doors that money can't.
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I think that's just beautiful and powerful. Thank you for sharing that with me. You know, one of the great things about hosting a podcast is like, I get a free coaching session with my guests. It's just fantastic.
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So, You said something else, which I think is really powerful, and that is that in the world of chiropractic, right, um the philosophy is that your body is amazing and nothing can fix your body better than it can fix itself.
COVID-19, Vaccines, and Public Trust
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Could you go a little deeper into that? Yeah, absolutely. I mean, let's think about this for a minute. Like what we do know, there's lots that we don't know about health and the miracle of life. But what we do know is that we come from two cells, one from our mom, one from our dad.
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And really the interesting fact is the cell, the um the egg is actually not your mother's egg. It's your grandmother's egg that was impregnated into your mother. So you're actually your grandmother's child, believe it or not. That's why we have a very special relationship with our grandmothers that, you know, we're actually their child.
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ah Your mother is a surrogate for your grandmother's child. And kind of blind mind blowing when you think about it. but ah With that being said, so we have an egg and a sperm that comes together and there's this beautiful union that takes place and then that cell starts replicating and doubling and doubling and doubling and doubling and it eventually becomes you know recognizable as a human being and then eventually it forms all of the organs.
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And then we have a beautiful baby that's born and continuously throughout life, our cells are gonna keep replicating and replicating. Now, what's really fantastic and you know really astonishing and and really fascinating to me is that we are not just our cells, but we are a result of the signals that our cells receive.
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So just like if you and I had the exact same vehicle, the conditions under which we drive and the way we drive is going to change the way the car shows up 10 years from now.
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So if I take really good care of my car, change the oil, drive on smooth roads, garage queen it, right then it's gonna be a totally different car in 10 years versus someone who doesn't take those same necessary steps or precautions.
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So there is a component of us that is is basically a derivative of our environment. That's what we call our epigenetics or our gene expression. And so we are constantly being born and dying at the same time. There are cells in our body that are dying during this conversation. There cells that are millions and millions of cells are dying.
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And millions and millions of cells are replacing themselves. So we are constantly being reborn in every, literally every single moment at a cellular level. And that serves as an opportunity for us to send ourselves a slightly different message.
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So, if I was going to if I wanted my cells to be happy, if I wanted them to be you know functioning at their peak, then there's things that I can do right now that will send them that message.
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If I want my cells to produce inflammatory byproducts or if I want my cells to produce corrosive products like cortisol, for example, then there's certain things I can do, certain ways I can think, certain can in certain environments I can put myself in, certain ways I can breathe that can...
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also create that environment. So we are being constantly reborn. We're a hologram of life and death, which is really, really fascinating to me. And so our body is constantly repairing. It's constantly regenerating. There isn't a cell in your body that's more than seven years old.
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And so every every few minutes, certain cells replace themselves. Every few weeks, certain cells replace themselves. And every few months, certain cells, and every few years, certain cells replace themselves.
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So we are constantly healing, repairing, and regenerating. And the rate at which we do that ah depends on our age, depends on how good we take care of ourselves, the messaging that we send to ourselves, and and obviously the nutrition that we provide our body as well.
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That's fascinating. And it's really beautifully put as well. So when the scamdemic took place and we were i fed a narrative that ended up to be, well, less than entirely truthful,
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And um many people, unfortunately, were duped by the powers that be into um taking an experimental shot that they called a vaccine, which I can tell you, my mom ah was a yeah ER nurse for 30 years. My father used to equip hospitals back in the Middle East, in Iran, where I come from.
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And I come from a medical family and i you know you don't create a vaccine in six months. It takes seven years to create a vaccine. So whatever that thing was, it wasn't a vaccine.
Breathwork's Impact on Health
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um A lot of people took these shots, trusting and believing in the powers that be.
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And it seems to me that um many of them now regret doing so. I can tell you I've had conversations with a lot of people who tell me never again, they're not going to do this, they're not going to trust them.
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But they are left with the after effects of what the government forced them to do or dupe them into doing. And there was a lot of people that were impacted by all this imposed isolation and their mental health took a hit. And I know that you have noticed this and you decided you needed a disruptive way to help people, to help them deal with the after effects of this horrible ah time in our history.
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And breath was the way. So talk to me about that. Walk us through exactly what your thinking was, how you came to this and what you discovered. Yeah, absolutely. So I want to give a shout out to James Nestor who wrote the book Breath.
00:18:04
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And ah that book changed my son's life first, and then it changed my wife's life, and certainly it changed my life and the trajectory of of my work that I do now. um I also want to give a shout out to my mentor, Giovanni Bartolomeo.
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And Giovanni taught me how to facilitate breath work. So it's a combination of learning about the importance of breathing and also the ability to facilitate breathing ah that put me in a unique position. One, as an educator, as a chiropractor, we have a unique perspective on the body.
00:18:39
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ah We believe that form affects function and function affects form. And so what's really interesting is the way we breathe changes the shape of our face. So if you go back and look at pictures of me from even just a few years ago, you'll see that the shape of my face has changed.
00:18:55
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And that's because I changed the way I breathe. In children, it's very influential. And so this affected my son because he had a hard time breathing through his nose and he was a habitual mouth breather.
00:19:08
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This is before we knew any of this. And so he ended up with a small upper palate. And when you have a small upper palate, which a lot of kids have these days and small jaws, you end up having to have teeth extracted.
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When you have teeth extracted, you end up with an even smaller face, a smaller airway, and you have even more difficulty breathing, but you have a perfect smile. Now, the problem with that is when we restrict the airway, it changes the way we breathe and people become habitual mouth breathers.
00:19:39
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When we become habitual mouth breathers, we're more prone to cavities. Mouth breathing is a number one cause of cavities. Mouth breathing lowers nitric oxide production. Nitric oxide is our body's initial defense against the outside world.
00:19:53
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You know, the interesting thing about nitric oxide is it lines, ah the mucosal membrane of our nose is lined with nitric oxide. Nitric oxide kills viruses, pathogens, and bacteria on contact.
00:20:07
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In fact, during scandemic as you refer to it as, ah company out of Vancouver, British Columbia was actually developing a nitric oxide spray that you would spray in your nose, ah but your body makes nitric oxide. You just have to breathe through your nose and you six-fold increase the nitric oxide that you produce.
00:20:26
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When you hum, you 15-fold increase the amount of nitric oxide that you produce. When you go in the sun, you dramatically improve the amount of nitric oxide you produce. so So you can only imagine the bozos, the experts that told us to use mouthwash.
00:20:42
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Mouthwash kills the bacteria in your mouth that produces nitric oxide. So if you wanna destroy your initial defenses against the outside world, use mouthwash. Mouthwash almost guarantees you're going to be more prone to illness and you're going to shut down your immune defenses.
00:20:59
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And then the bozos told us to stay indoors, which also decreases nitric oxide production along with vitamin D. And of course, when you're outside and in nature, you get fresh air, but you also get very important immunomodulating essential oils from the trees.
00:21:15
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The trees actually enhance our immune function. So nitric oxide plays a very important role in our health. Interestingly, fun fact is we consume 30 pounds of air a day, which means you consume more air in a day than food you do in a week.
00:21:30
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So you interact with the outside world more through your lungs than your digestive system. The way we breathe alters the state of our nervous system. So if somebody is nasal breathing, breathing nice and slow, their nervous system is gonna feel safe and it's gonna be in a more parasympathetic state.
00:21:49
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And it's in a parasympathetic state that we heal, repair, regenerate and restore and revitalize every cell, tissue and organ in our body simultaneously. When somebody like my son, for example, is a mouth breather, they're more prone to anxiety because the way you would be breathing in a fight or flight type of situation is in and out through your mouth.
00:22:10
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When you breathe in and out through your mouth, you actually absorb less oxygen in the air that you breathe because breathing through your nose pressurizes the air, it moisture regulates the air, it temperature regulates the air.
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And in fact, you get 20% more oxygen delivery because the pressurization that occurs through the nasal turbinates increases oxygen delivery by 20% because you get an expansion of the lower lungs. so So breathing through your nose literally is like magic for your body compared to breathing through your mouth.
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So my son went to the dentist. The first time he went to the dentist, the dentist said, Mr. Patel, we have good news and bad news. And we were so sure that he didn't have any cavities or any issues because he didn't eat junk food. He didn't eat chocolate. He didn't drink soda.
00:22:55
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He didn't do any of those things that you typically associate with cavities, but he had a mouthful of cavities. And we were just kind of scratching our heads and we felt like failures as parents, but we didn't think we were doing anything wrong.
00:23:07
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And then the next time we went to dentist, they said, well, we have good news and bad news. And we're okay, here we go again. ah the good news is that your son's adult teeth are coming in. The bad news is there isn't enough room in his mouth.
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so we're going to have to pull out a couple of his teeth to make room for these adult teeth to come in. And as a chiropractor, the all the red bulbs and flags went off for me because my philosophy and our collective philosophy and all of our philosophy should be that God don't make no junk.
00:23:36
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There's no way that a human being is born with too many teeth. We wouldn't be designed that way. The fact that people have to have their wisdom teeth pulled is a complete scam. The reason people have to have their wisdom teeth pulled is not because they have too many teeth.
00:23:50
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It's because they don't have enough jaw. And the reason people don't have enough jaw these days is because we don't eat hard things. All of our food for children is pureed, it's liquefied, it's designed so that it's easily easy leaves dissolved in the mouth.
00:24:05
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So we don't actually work our jaws. And because we don't work our jaws, they become underdeveloped. And an underdeveloped jaw doesn't accommodate for all the teeth. that the body is designed to produce.
00:24:17
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So what happens is, you know if we didn't have this awareness, we would have had my son's teeth pulled like most parents do and nothing wrong if you've had it done, I'm you know i'm not judging anyone here, I didn't know any better until I did.
00:24:30
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And so we didn't have his teeth pulled, we went to a different we went to four different orthodontists And three of them told us to pull his teeth. And we weren't having it until we found an airway dentist.
00:24:41
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An airway dentist is focused on not just a healthy smile, but a beautiful airway. Because your airway is what serves you every single day.
00:24:51
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Every single moment of every single day, your airway is in service of you. If your airway is narrow and restricted because you had your teeth pulled and your jaw stays small, then you don't breathe properly.
00:25:04
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You end up being a habitual mouth breather. Or at nighttime, you end up being a mouth breather or you snore because you have a restricted airway. So going to an airway dentist, we essentially installed a palatal expander in my son's mouth.
00:25:18
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And so by expanding his palate, his airway restriction went away because the top of your mouth is the bottom of your sinuses. And so his sinus has expanded, his face expanded, he became even more handsome.
00:25:32
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And so, and ah and all of his teeth came in, just as they should. Okay, so we didn't have to have any teeth pulled. And had we paid closer attention to his breathing as a child, we probably could have prevented this whole thing in the first place, because we naturally have a spacer that creates a proper arch and airway. It's called our tongue.
00:25:56
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The position of your tongue plays a role in the shape of your face. So people who are mouth breathers typically have their tongue in the bottom of their mouth. When your tongue is in the bottom of your mouth, your air your face collapses inwards.
00:26:10
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When your tongue is placed in the roof of your mouth, your tongue naturally acts as a spacer and pushes everything outwards. So you have a nice broad face, a nice broad open airway, and you have a beautiful dental arch where all your teeth can come in.
00:26:25
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Another interesting fact, Nikki, you'll find this fascinating. ah In India, and maybe they do this in Iran, they use something called miswak. ah In India, they use neem. So neem branches is what they would use as their toothbrushes.
00:26:39
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So my parents, when they moved here, had no dentists, no cavities, no braces, no nothing, and they had no dental problems. a They didn't even use a toothbrush growing up, which sounds kind of weird and almost disgusting in our Western society. What they would do is they would chew on branches.
00:26:59
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So every day they'd have a bundle of branches delivered to their family or maybe even once a week. And they would chew on this branch, almost like a dog would chew on a bone. And the neem tree would secrete all of its oils. and Now they make toothpaste out of neem oil, right?
00:27:15
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So the neem tree would secrete all of its oils and its resins, which would create a healthy oral microbiome. and And then by chewing, they're stimulating their jaw.
00:27:25
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They're stimulating their jaw because they're chewing on something hard and indestructible. And they would bristleize the end of the branch. And then they would kind of brush their teeth with it. And so that's what pretty much everyone in India did growing up. Now things have changed. Now people use plastic toothbrushes, right? And load their body with microplastics and, ah you know, synthetic hormone disrupting chemicals and they brush their teeth.
00:27:50
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And, you know, if you ever give a child a toothbrush, if you think back to when you gave your, one of your sons a toothbrush for the first time, what was the thing that they did? Did they brush or did they bite on the toothbrush? Bite.
00:28:00
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They bit on it, right? So they children already knew. you All of us knew this from the very beginning that we shouldn't be brushing our teeth, that we should be chewing because that stimulates the jaw.
00:28:11
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This is why when children are teething, right, they want to chew, right? Because that stimulates the production of a healthy, wide-open airway, a powerful jaw that allows all the teeth to come in nicely.
Breathing Techniques for Health
00:28:25
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So the way we breathe plays a huge role in how our facial structure is formed, plays a huge role in our dental health, plays a huge role in our mental and emotional health, and it plays a huge role in our immune health, just to name ah few things. So that was my son's story, right? And that's one thing that that made a huge difference for him.
00:28:45
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I'll pause there because there's probably a lot to unpack. Dude, ah I took detailed notes because growing up, um my youngest son was born with a condition they called subglottic tracheal stenosis.
00:29:01
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Frankly, it's what led to my wife and I splitting up because he couldn't breathe through his airway. We went to Sick Kids Hospital and one of the doctors said,
00:29:12
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you know, wanted to take a more conservative approach and ah just try to put something in his airway to expand it. The other doctor wanted to cut open his airway, ah expand it like forcefully through surgery, and then puts a piece of plastic in his airway for six weeks and have him knocked out and hope that it takes.
00:29:34
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It's got an 80% success rate. And I said, 20%, what happens if he, fails. This surgery fails. They go, oh, well, he'll never be able to breathe properly on his own again. He'll constantly you need to have a hole in his throat. He might even die.
00:29:48
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I'm like, yeah, no, I don't want to do that. My ex-wife was so scared that she says, no, we got to let them do whatever they want. And unfortunately, that led to us to us breaking up. But Everything you're saying, I wish we had known this.
00:30:02
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I wish doctors had known this. i wish they'd have put a plate expander into the little fellow's mouth when he was when he was small. Then they wouldn't have had to put that stupid piece of plastic down his throat for two months at a time.
00:30:13
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um Maybe our marriage wouldn't have broken up. Who knows? It's... ah It's absolutely incredible. um I bet you there's lots of parents that have had deeper issues than you know theirre their kids' teeth not fitting into their face. and i'm and i'm And I'm sure that if they listen to this, they would get a feeling of hope, of relief coming their way.
00:30:42
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And I'm wondering what your comments are to that. Yeah, you know, i the reason I share my son's story, I'm sure if I ask for permission, he might not let me because you know how kids are. But the reason I share it is because you I know so many people who are listening to this.
00:30:58
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um I wish somebody had told me what i now know. I wish somebody had asked me or had me pay attention to the way my child was breathing because it could be one of the greatest gifts that we can give our children, right? The first thing we pay attention to when a child is born is if they're breathing.
00:31:17
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And we're happy that our children are breathing, but we're not always paying attention to how they're breathing. And so, you know, ah interesting fun fact, maybe not so fun, but virtually all ADHD is associated to dysfunctional breathing. Really? Really?
00:31:34
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Let me say that again, virtually all ADHD is associated dysfunctional breathing. And dysfunctional breathing oftentimes occurs at nighttime when we're not sleeping next to our children. We may not be paying attention. In fact, when we would kind of check in on my son to see if he was breathing, we would just see if he was breathing, not how he was breathing.
00:31:54
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And oftentimes he would wake up with drool on his pillow. And we just thought it was the cutest things. We have pictures of him drooling on his pillow. But the problem is, is that if he's drooling, that's a sign of mouth breathing.
00:32:06
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And when somebody is mouth breathing, they are not in a parasympathetic state, which is the state that we should be in. Parasympathetic means our bodies in a state of rest, digest, relax, repair, rejuvenate, reproduce, restore.
00:32:22
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And so if you're mouth breathing, your body's in fight or flight. So most people, two thirds of people statistically breathe with their mouth open at night. Adults as well.
00:32:33
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My wife, I'll share her story really briefly. So my wife, when she was growing up, used to suck her thumb. And many parents might have children that suck their thumb or a nephew or a niece or know someone who did.
00:32:45
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What's really fascinating is that at the roof of our mouth, just behind our front two teeth, there's a magic button. And when you push this magic button, it instantly soothes you. So children will oftentimes suck their thumb because they use their thumb to push that magic button.
00:33:01
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They might use a pacifier. They might you know suck on their mother's breast, right? And the nipple hits that magic button and instantly it soothes them. Now, when the tongue is tied, and a tongue tie when the frenulum, that little piece of, looks like string on the bottom of your tongue, when it's tight, it doesn't allow your tongue to rest in the roof of your mouth.
00:33:24
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It creates a restricted feeling. And so children who have tongue ties, mode mild, moderate, or even severe, oftentimes have a hard time latching on. And so they have a hard time latching onto the breast because they can't position their tongue correctly.
00:33:40
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And they tend to be cranky babies because they can't soothe themselves by putting their tongue at the roof of their mouth. So what do they do? They put their thumb there. Now the problem with that is that when you put your thumb there, it pushes your airway upwards, creating an even smaller airway.
00:33:57
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And then the other thing that happens is it can actually cause an open bite, right? So the teeth come forward. And so people end up with an open bite instead of a closed bite. And so ah my wife was a habitual, ah you know, tongue, thumb sucker when she was growing up until about eight.
00:34:15
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So you can get teased for that, right? So there's kind of mental emotional scarring that can take place. But her tongue tie never got addressed. And she would have tons of cavities growing up. And I'm like, you know what the hell? like Why do you have so many cavities? like I've never had a cavity in my life.
00:34:29
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and And she takes exceptional care of her teeth. And she just every time she goes to the dentist, not anymore, but since she would, when we first started dating, she'd have another cavity. I'm like, what the hell is going on with your mouth? like Maybe all this brushing and all this other stuff you're doing isn't working for you. And it turns out that because she was breathing through her mouth, that's what was causing her cavities.
00:34:50
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And so she'd have low-grade anxiety, she'd have cavities, and I didn't put the two and two together. And she'd also have a lot of neck pain. So interestingly enough, you know just going back to my anatomy background, your tongue is actually connected to your shoulders.
00:35:05
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there's a muscle that attaches from your your tongue to your hyoid bone, which is a muscle in your neck. And there's a that muscle goes from your hyoid boing bone back to your shoulder, it's called the omohyoid.
00:35:18
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So people who have chronic consistent shoulder and neck pain, they can go to the chiropractor, massage therapist, do all these things, and they'll still have that pain. And so she would have this chronic neck pain.
00:35:30
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Literally within minutes of having her tongue tie snipped with a laser, Her neck pain melted away, never came back. Her posture instantly improved. Her range of motion instantly improved.
00:35:43
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And her mood instantly improved. So a 30-second procedure changed the course of her life. And what most people may or may not know is that your tongue is connected all the way to your toes through your fascia.
00:36:00
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So when people get that tongue tie release, not only can they place their tongue at the roof of the mouth again, which instantly soothes them, but they release all the fascial stricture that they have. So they become more flexible and mobile throughout their entire body.
00:36:18
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So dude, man, we can go down lot of roads with what you've shared, but the biggest message that I'm getting is don't mouth breathe. Learn how to breathe properly. Okay.
00:36:31
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So Sachin, I'm your guinea pig. Show me how we're going to do this. How we going to teach me how to breathe properly for my optimal level of health?
00:36:41
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Amazing. So just like there's an app for everything, there's a breath for everything. And so how we breathe, ah so what we have to first understand, Nikki, and I just wanna make sure the audience is very clear about this, is that our nervous system uses the breath as a regulatory and assistive tool.
00:37:01
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So for example, laughing is breathwork. Crying is breathwork. Humming is breathwork. Talking is breathwork. Singing and chanting are breathwork.
00:37:14
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Okay, yawning is breath work. So there's so many different ways that we our nervous system uses the breath that we may not necessarily call breath work that we are exposed to and experiencing throughout our day and throughout our lives.
00:37:29
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So one thing I wanna remind people since we brought up the topic of crying being breath work, crying is one of the best ways for a child to regulate their nervous system. So we never tell a child to stop crying.
00:37:43
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because the only way to stop crying is to stop breathing. And the only way to stop breathing is to hold your diaphragm still. And so what happens when people do that is the diaphragm has three purposes, okay?
00:37:58
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At least that I know, there might be more. The diaphragm has three purposes. One is referred to as the second heart. So the diaphragm is a muscle that sits right in between your trunk organs, like your liver and your stomach and and your you know other organs in in your trunk. And your're ripe but it sits right below your lungs.
00:38:16
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Your diaphragm is referred to as your second heart. So every time your diaphragm moves up and down, we take 23,000 breaths a day on average. So 23,000 times a day, your diaphragm moves up and down.
00:38:27
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It's assisting your heart in pumping blood. In fact, about 40% of the pressure that your heart produces is coming from the oscillation of the diaphragm. The biggest lymph nodes in your body are underneath your diaphragm.
00:38:41
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And that's where I would put them. If I was an intelligent creator and I needed to pump you know the 12 liters of lymph that your body makes every day, and lymph is like your body's sewage system, I would put the biggest lymph nodes underneath the diaphragm because it's gonna move up and down, pumping those lymph nodes 23,000 times a day. just makes sense for me to put them there.
00:39:02
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The third thing that your diaphragm does is it acts as the hydrostatic pressure regulator of your myofascial system. So the myofascial system is basically a a web-like structure that connects every cell, tissue, and organ in your body like a network simultaneously.
00:39:25
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So it's a force distribution and communication system. Now, our myofascial system is how we also, um you know how we regulate pressure blows. So if if I were to punch someone, for example, or if someone was to take a blunt force trauma, that force gets ah basically distributed through the entire myofascial system.
00:39:49
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Emotions are also distributed through the fascia. This is why they say our issues are in our tissues. So when somebody is crying, they're releasing those emotions.
00:40:00
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They're using their voice, they're using their breath, they're using their diaphragm, they're using their lungs to release those emotions. But when you tell someone to stop crying, then those emotions get buried.
00:40:12
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And so our trauma is stored in our diaphragm. Our grief is stored in our lungs. So people who have trauma end up becoming short, shallow breathers because they have all these trigger points in their diaphragm.
00:40:25
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And when you become a short, shallow breather, you have a hairpin trigger. So you're always anxious, you're always on edge, and you don't know why. because your nervous system is stuck in fight or flight because you're breathing short and shallow.
00:40:41
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So the breath is a two-way street. If I experience an emotion, there's gonna be a breath pattern associated to it. However, I can breathe a certain way to create the emotion as well.
00:40:57
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So for example, if you experience a funny moment or you're watching a standup comedy or there's a joke or something hilarious happens, you start laughing. And so the emotion is created and then the breath is created. Remember, laughing is breath work.
00:41:13
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But if I had you start laughing, you know, For no reason, just going through the motions, the breathing pattern of laughing, and I could measure your blood, within a few minutes, the chemistry in your blood is gonna change.
00:41:27
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And within a few minutes, you're gonna be laughing and not even unknowing why you're laughing. It's because the chemistry in your body has shifted. So the breath is a two-way street. we use Our nervous system uses it unconsciously, right?
00:41:41
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So for example, if you were to feel a sense of relief, what would you do? you would sigh. yeah right Without even realizing it, hey, I'm using my breath to regulate my nervous system, you would sigh.
00:41:54
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However, you could sigh consciously and exaggerate the sigh to create the feeling of relief and regulate your nervous system that way.
00:42:05
Speaker
So it's a two way street, I want everyone to know that. This is probably the greatest ah hack that that I've ever known because I can choose how I feel, i can choose how I function, I can choose where I send blood, where I don't send blood. I can change my body temperature, I can change the temperature of my fingertips, I can change what hemisphere I send blood flow to in my brain, I can change if I send blood flow to my brainstem or my neocortex.
00:42:33
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I can change my core temperature based on how I'm breathing. So how we breathe depends on what our goal and our objective is. So one of the things I've created, um because obviously this can be an extensive topic, is I've created a guide called Breathe Like This, Not That.
00:42:48
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And so that guide is is free and it just shows you how to breathe in different situations to elicit a specific response. So what I like to do is maybe share a few strategies that we can use ah that are probably the most applicable strategies for people to use.
00:43:05
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So that way they can start applying them right away. So the first one is called a physiologic sigh. Andrew Huberman and his team actually did a research project on this. And you can find the study on PubMed. And what they discovered is that a physiologic sigh is actually more effective than meditation.
00:43:22
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So if you're somebody who has a hard time meditating, but you know you want to regulate your nervous system and you want to feel calm, then a physiologic sigh is one way to do that. Probably the the most effective way.
00:43:33
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And within three to five minutes, even if you're not good, like you might be a terrible meditator, but it's hard to be terrible at doing a physiologic sigh. It's like a blue it's like a blueprint and a roadmap and a formula. It's really easy to follow.
00:43:45
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So i generally don't encourage people doing this while they're driving, but you can do this in the car um you know before you head into the office or before you head home, or you could do this in between your client calls or coaching calls. Anytime you feel like, man, I just need to reset my nervous system, this is the breath that you would use.
00:44:05
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So sit up nice and comfortable. You're going to place your tongue at the roof of your mouth. I often find this works better with your eyes closed. And you can set an intention. Maybe your intention is to feel relaxed. Maybe it's to release something that isn't serving you.
00:44:21
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or maybe you just want to hit the reset button. Whatever that intention is, just hold that in your consciousness and in your mind. And now let's take ah exhale. So breathe out through your nose. Just let it all the way out.
00:44:34
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Cleansing breath. And then now let's put our tongue at the roof of our mouth. Take a nice deep breath into our nose. Breathing into the belly. little bit deeper into the lungs. And another sip of air at the very top, filling the top of our lungs.
00:44:50
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And just holding that for a count of three. And on the count of three, you're going to release. You're going to drop your tongue and release with an audible sigh. One, two, three.
00:45:02
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Let it all the way out. Okay, tongue back at the roof of the mouth. Breathing into the belly, through the nose, into the lungs, into the top of the lungs. You can take a few extra s sips with your nose or your mouth, whatever feels more comfortable.
00:45:19
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And just holding, feeling that fullness. This time I want you to squeeze your pelvic floor like a Kegel exercise, like you're stopping yourself from peeing, keep holding. And on the count of three, again, we're gonna release with an audible sigh.
00:45:32
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One, two, three.
00:45:37
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All the way out. And you would repeat this anywhere from three to five minutes, whatever feels right and called for you. Some people can feel, ah you might even feel a shift already, Nikki. ah You already look more relaxed after doing that. And you're just kind of leaving it all on the table, okay?
00:45:56
Speaker
So we're just releasing, exhaling, letting it all the way out. Doing this for a few minutes is going to make a profound difference um in just how you show up after your done this, okay?
00:46:09
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So this is a great way to alleviate stress. If you've had a difficult conversation, if you wanna hit the reset button, or if you just wanna feel like yourself again. okay Viktor Frankl said that between the stimulus and the response right is a moment to choose how you wanna respond and react.
00:46:28
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And I believe that that moment is is our breath. So we get to choose how we respond. And one way that we can respond is simply by taking a deep breath letting it out, just hitting the reset button, and then coming back to the present moment.
00:46:45
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So that's called a physiologic sigh. The next breath I wanna show people or share with people is called a coherence breath. This is your default breathing pattern. If you can breathe this way throughout the day or come back to this way of breathing as often as you can think about it, then this is going to be the most um grounding type of breathing you can do.
00:47:07
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The coherence breath is really simple. You're gonna breathe in for a count of six and out for a count of six. Now, some people might start with a count of four in, a count of four out, tongue is at the roof of the mouth,
00:47:20
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Breathing in and out through the nose. so let's just take a nice deep breath in two, three, four, five, six. Out two, three, four, five, six.
00:47:35
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In two, three, four, five, six. Out two, three, four, five, six.
00:47:48
Speaker
And this is the way you want to breathe throughout the day. When you're checking email, when you're on a podcast, when you're not talking, right? When you're listening, when you're listening to your children talk or your wife or spouse, or even your teammates speaking, come back to this breath.
00:48:04
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The reason this is important is because it changes and alters our brain waves. It puts us in a state of what's called coherence. It connects our brain and our heart. That's when we're in a coherent state.
00:48:16
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We also get more oxygenation of our blood tissues. And many prayers are designed around this breathing pattern. They probably didn't know why they were doing it, but many prayers um in many cultures, across many cultures, are designed around this breathing cadence. So this is called coherence breathing.
00:48:35
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Now, one thing that comes up for people is, Sachin, how do I think of my breath all the time, right? Like, how do i raise it to my consciousness? like such a simple thing to do,
00:48:47
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but being simple to do means it's also simple not to do. So I am a firm believer of a good friend of mine and his work, BJ Fogg. BJ Fogg is a Stanford professor. His students invented Facebook and LinkedIn.
00:49:01
Speaker
And he knows how to study behavior change, right? He wrote the books on it, so to speak. He wrote a book called Tiny Habits. And in the book, Tiny Habits, he talks about how to create behavior change.
00:49:13
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And behavior equals motivation, ability, and prompt. So hopefully by the end of this conversation, you're motivated to breathe better. And we just literally scratched the surface of the surface today.
00:49:25
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a So motivation is, am I inspired, intrinsically inspired and motivated to do to breathe better, right? so if you want to live longer, breathe better. In the Framingham study, they found that the greatest predictor of lifespan was lung capacity.
00:49:40
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Okay, so if you wanna live longer, get an incentive spirometer. You can get a one on Amazon for like 20 bucks and increase your lung capacity. That's gonna increase your lifespan.
00:49:51
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What they also find is that animals that breathe the slowest live the longest. So a turtle takes about three breaths a minute, lives a couple hundred years. A dog takes 35 breaths a minute, ages seven times faster than a human.
00:50:04
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So the fastest way to slow down the aging process put your body into a state of repair and regeneration is to slow down your breath. So getting into that parasympathetic state, breathing in for a count of six, out for a count of six, and you're not taking full inhales and exhales.
00:50:22
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You're only breathing to about 10% of your lung capacity, which is about 500 milliliters. Okay, so your breath should be very slow, very subtle. We shouldn't see this huge expansion and contraction of your lungs taking place. so That's not the point. It's slow, steady, rhythmic breathing. If I were to put a feather under your nose, the feather should barely move. Okay, that's how you want to breathe. The person sitting next to you shouldn't even know that you're breathing.
00:50:47
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So slow, steady breathing, six in, six out. So motivation is number one. Second is ability. All of us have the ability and the capacity ah to slow down our breath. Whether you go from two seconds in, two seconds out, or whether you go from there to four seconds or from four seconds to six seconds, we all have the ability to slow down our breathing.
00:51:08
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okay And we should all hopefully have the ability to breathe in and out through our nose. And if your nose is stuffy and congested, maybe you go to bed and your nose is stuffy and congested or you have a cold, there's actually a nose clearing exercise that you could do. Maybe I can show that to you.
00:51:22
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So it's really simple. You would just take a deep breath in, deep breath out. On the exhale, you would plug your nose and then keep your mouth closed, hold your breath, and you would just move your head breathe.
00:51:33
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as many different directions as you can. And what will happen after you do that about three or four times, instantly your nose will be cleared and you'll be able to breathe again. Okay? Now, if you have persistent issues and maybe get an air purifier, get tested for food allergies or sensitivities, maybe test your space for mold. I mean, there could be a variety of things, but if you if your nose is constantly stuffed up, that nose clearing exercise will clear it up.
00:51:57
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So we all have the ability. If you have a deviated septum, sometimes people with deviated septums may have a hard time breathing through their nose, and so they may be habitual
Breath in Business Communication
00:52:06
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mouth breathers. Your nose is interesting as an organ because the more you use it, the more it opens up.
00:52:12
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So if initially breathing through your nose seems difficult, that's okay. It should feel a little bit harder than breathing through your mouth because... your air goes through these turbinates, the purpose of your nose is to slow down the air before it goes into the lungs, purify the air before it goes into the lungs and perfect it.
00:52:29
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So it's always gonna feel more restrictive to breathe through your nose, but as you breathe more through your nose, everything's gonna open up and those airways will open up over time. So just be patient and that'll happen. So ability is number two.
00:52:41
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And number three is prompt. So this is the magic, um you know motivation, ability, and prompt. So I ask people, what's the thing you think about or do the most often throughout the day?
00:52:54
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So Nicky, what would that be for you? The thing that I think about most often throughout the day? God, I think about a lot of things, but at the moment, what's top of mind for me is I think I mentioned to you that I'm really into bodybuilding program right now. So I'm constantly thinking about Eating, how much I eat, when I have to eat next, how much sleep I got to get.
00:53:17
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Did I get my workout in? Did I do my cardio? you Like, it's... Like during work, I'm like, oh crap, I got eat. Yeah. So find that thing, right? For some people, it's their phone, right? They pick up their phone a couple hundred times a day. For some people, it's their kids.
00:53:35
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For some people like you, it might be food, right? Based on your your health goal that you have right now. So just attach your breath to that goal. So now every time you think of food, think of your breath next. Every time someone thinks of their phone, they think of their breath next. So we're anchoring that awareness to something that we already have awareness of.
00:53:54
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So we're not adding any extra work. We're not having to have a separate thought about our breathing. We're just anchoring to something we're already thinking of. And so every time you ah have that thought about food, the next question is how is, how am I breathing?
00:54:07
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Am I breathing through my nose? Am I breathing slow? am I breathing steady? Am I breathing for what this moment requires me to be breathing like? So for example, if you're exercising, then breathing in and out through your nose for six seconds may not be the most appropriate breath.
00:54:23
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If you're sprinting, right If you're going in an all-out sprint, which you might be doing periodically, then you want to be breathing in and out with your mouth as fast as you can. And the reason for that is because we want rapid contraction and expansion of our lungs and our diaphragm moving up and down as quickly as it can because that assists our heart in pumping blood.
00:54:42
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So we want to mechanically assist the heart in pumping blood, right? If you're breathing slow, then your heart has to just work harder to pump blood, which doesn't make sense. So we're we're using our ah breath, you know, structurally and anatomically to assist the body in performing its behaviors as well and performing its functions.
00:55:02
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So there's a breath for, there's a way of breathing for every activity that we're trying to do. And it's just important to kind of connect the connect the breath and the activity appropriately. So that guide will be helpful for people if they wanna learn the 15 different ways to breathe.
00:55:20
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I love it. um So Sachin, how do people get the guide? If you go to breathworkwithsachin.com, I actually put together a free bundle for everyone.
00:55:31
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It's got a guided meditation that they can go through, ah a psychedelic breathwork experience that they can go through. So it's like, I call it how to blow your own mind. um So using the breath, you can have these out-of-body psychedelic you know experiences. I have the Breathe Like This, Not That guide.
00:55:48
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have a guide on how to stop snoring. Snoring is one of the most dysfunctional breathing patterns, right? And ah you know a good majority of people snore while they breathe or while they sleep. Sleep, yeah. And snoring is the number three cause of divorce, believe it or not. So it's a huge issue.
00:56:04
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And so there's a guide on how to stop snoring. And there's a variety of other tools that I share in there as well. So it's all free. I don't think I don't really sell anything associated to breathing um because the best things in life they say are free.
00:56:19
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And so this is the one of the best tools I can offer people is to teach them how to breathe better. And again, I wish I had known this 20 years ago. I wish i knew this for my family's sake, for my wife's sake, for my sake, but I'm so glad I know it now. And I'm just trying to help as many people as I can with this information.
00:56:36
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God bless you for doing this, man. This is amazing stuff. We'll send everybody to Breathwork with Sachin, right? Yep..com. I'm going to go download a bunch of this stuff myself.
00:56:48
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um Sachin, we – so before I get to this, what I was about to say was we end every show with. But before I get to this, while you were explaining all this, so many ideas came to my head.
00:57:01
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One of them was, one of my mentors is a man named Mark Von Muser. Mark used to be Tony Robbins' director of sales coaching and training. He helped Tony in a heart-based way take his coaching group from practically nothing to $150 million a year. you know So it was, Mark's the real deal.
00:57:23
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And I got to make sure I introduce you to him sometime. um Mark talks a lot about the heart. heart-head connection in sales, because that's his area of genius is sales and heart-driven selling.
00:57:37
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And while you were talking about that heart-head connection and breathing, I thought, I wonder if there's a way to tie this into a sales conversation. How does one breathe in a sales conversation? How does one even teach the person that you're selling to how to breathe in a sales conversation so that that interaction is more powerful.
00:57:56
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And Sachin, I'd love to have a conversation with you separately to create something around that because I think that would be, i think that would change the paradigm of sales to tell you the truth because so many people feel icky about selling. You know what I mean?
00:58:13
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The whole concept of selling, don't mean one of those people, those pushy people. Commissioned breathy people, you know they start to breathe faster when they even think about sales, they those shallow breaths.
00:58:25
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Imagine if we could bring... peace and calm and breath to the selling experience. Imagine what that would do for people. you know As you were saying this, I have five or six other ones. I won't get into them now because I will be here forever. But man, that's that's an interesting thought to ponder on and see if maybe we can create something around because I got to tell you, I think it would be very valuable for me in the sales conversations I have with people.
00:58:52
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But I bet you it's valuable for all my clients, all my listeners, all your clients, There's a whole lot of good people who get all squirrely in that sales thing.
00:59:04
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And I bet you their breath goes into a bad place. Yeah. Well, may I share something? Please, of course. And we'll definitely unpack it maybe in a different conversation. But one of the things I teach my clients that I coach is that, you know, people will forget what you say, but they'll never forget how you make them feel.
00:59:22
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Yes. Maya Angelou, right? She said that. Yeah. yeah And so when we when we um get on a call... Like many people, we just don't know what the state of their nervous system is.
00:59:33
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They could be in fight or flight. And on average, people remember about 11% of what you say. ah stressed out person is going to remember even less than that. So we owe it to them and to ourselves and the time that we're going to spend with that person for both of our nervous systems to be in alignment and regulated.
00:59:52
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And one of the ways to do that is to start the call with a physiologic sigh. And so you can actually take them through a guided set of physiologic sighs. They reset their nervous system.
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Now they're calm, their nervous system feels safe. And when we feel safe, we're far more receptive to the information that's being presented to us. When we're in a sympathetic state, we're in fight or flight, right? We're either running away from the opportunity or resisting the opportunity.
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But we're when we're in a state of what's called the ventral vagal state, when we our nervous system is calm, it's far more receptive. We listen more carefully. We process with our neocortex instead of our limbic brain.
01:00:36
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So it instantly puts us in ah in a better position to make a more informed and educated decision, right? So if you have something of value to offer somebody, then... your value is going to be filtered through their nervous system.
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And if the nervous system is stuck in fight or flight, then they're looking for ways to get out of that conversation or resist whatever you're
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offering. So a physiologic sign, in the very beginning can be a great way.
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And then just also keep in mind the having the awareness of holding space, right? So if I was on this call and I'm breathing like,
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And of course, I'm exaggerating. You wouldn't breathe like that. But I'm kind of going on the other end off the other end of the spectrum. But if I'm calm and I'm listening, I'm using the cadence in my voice.
01:01:22
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to ah to um you can You can speak and breathe in certain patterns to almost hypnotize somebody and put them in a trance-like state, not to manipulate them, but to be in service of them.
01:01:33
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So I believe that there's there's a lot. And you're definitely um you're definitely you definitely hit the nail on the head that how we self-regulate But also how we co-regulate um our nervous systems on a conversation, in any conversation, whether it's with your children, right, or whether it's with your spouse. like I'll give you a ah quick example. I know i know we want to wrap things up, but a quick example is when you ask your spouse a question, yes pay attention to how their breath changes. Right.
01:02:03
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And the breath is the nervous system's unconscious way of communicating to you. So if you ask your spouse something and they, right, then you know their nervous system's in fight or flight.
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But if you say something and i was waiting for you to ask me that, right, now you know their nervous system feels safe. So pay attention to how the questions that you ask shift the state of somebody's nervous system by paying attention to how their breath changes.
01:02:33
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And the breath doesn't lie. That's the beauty of it. It doesn't lie. Well, um I'd like to introduce you to Mark for a variety of reasons. I think the two of you would just love getting to know each other, and meet each other. He thinks like us, he's into health.
01:02:47
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But Mark and and myself, I'm not as as nearly at the level that he is with sales, but I'm pretty decent at it. I'd love to have like a deeper conversation offline about all the intricacies of the structure of a sales conversation and bring your expertise around breath and slowing the parasympathetic nervous system on both sides into the design of that, because I don't think anyone's done that ever.
01:03:14
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And I think it would, it would dramatically transform sales conversations that people have. I really do. And, Maybe, maybe I'm thinking out loud here. We even do a podcast, you with Mark, ah you know, and we kind of bring that whole thing into it because this is something that'll change lives.
01:03:35
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If people can, if people can go and have a conversation with someone, they're looking to help and not be freaked out. Cause a lot of good people get freaked out when they go have a sales conversation, right? Even if you tell them, okay, relax, breathe, whatever, there's still something in there that's going I don't want them to think I'm a bad guy. i don't want them to think I'm a bad girl.
01:03:54
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and I don't want to come across as slimy. And they're not slimy, but the fear is is real. And it's just pounding in their head, even if they're trying to slow themselves down. So if there's a way to just get rid of that and just have this be an authentic human to human service and love connection, which is what it really ought to be, man, I think we're doing humanity as service in in the area of business. I think it's a good call. So i don't know what you think, but if you like the idea, let's talk about it another time for sure. I love i love the idea. i I speak about this frequently, so it would be great to unpack it with some rock stars like yourself and Mark.
01:04:27
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Yeah, especially Mark. All awesome. Well, dude, we've gone a bit over time, and i know you've got somewhere else to be, so let's do this. um Let's... um Let's end the podcast with our top your top three expert action steps. These are your three best bullet point pieces of advice for my listener to take their life, their business to the next level. What say you?
01:04:56
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Oh, man, it's always tough to pack it into three things. So one of the things that I will say is tape your mouth at night. This one thing will shift the state of your nervous system while you're sleeping.
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You'll wake up way more refreshed. You'll have amazing, lucid, vivid dreams. And you will have awesome, awesome sleep. And this will completely catapult your energy in the right direction.
01:05:20
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Just use three on micropore tape. Three-month supply is a dollar. So it's super cheap. You can get on Amazon. Next thing I would say is that the doctor of the future is the patient, which means that you are...
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the doctor of the future. And health has now become democratized and decentralized and nothing can fix your body better than it can fix itself. Somebody just has to show you, just like we did today, what some of those magic buttons are to push.
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And your body never resists being healthy. You're never fighting a disease. There's nothing to fight. Your body, just like a plant, wants to thrive. Okay. Last tip is you can't negotiate with nature.
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So what many people do is they try to exercise more and eat like crap, thinking that one replaces the other. And that would be like putting a plant in a dark closet and watering it more.
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so if something's good for it, right? Yes, you need that one thing that's good for it, but you also need to the do the other things that are good for it. So in my opinion, the top three things that you can't negotiate with when it comes to your health, number one is circadian rhythm.
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which is associated to the cycles of the day based on the rising and setting of the sun. Number two is the state of your nervous system. And number three is your rest and recovery.
01:06:46
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And these things are often overlooked. And you'll notice that I didn't even talk about diet and exercise because these three things trump those two things. You know, it's so true. The...
01:06:57
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the coach I'm working with around bodybuilding, he talks about rest and recovery more than he talks about ah exercise and nutrition.
01:07:08
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um And he says that rest and recovery is critical to your nervous system being in ah in a good place. He says, because if you're training the way that I want you to be training, you're pushing yourself to failure, right?
01:07:26
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And that's going to have an impact on your nervous system. It's, it's going to, and it's going to, it's going to have a positive impact. If you recover, it'll have a negative impact. If you don't recover, it'll be opposite of what you want.
01:07:38
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um And he talks about sleep all the time and proper sleep. And, About it two years ago, I interviewed Colonel David Grossman on the podcast.
01:07:49
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He's pretty famous for having written the books on killing and on combat, which was the impact of ah you know combat and killing on soldiers and law enforcement. These books sold lots and lots of copies. He's an in-demand speaker.
01:08:04
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But when he came on my show, all he was talking about was sleep. And how important sleep was. um And we even talked about doing a book together and we agreed to do it, but you know it's on me that we haven't done it. And it's it's really the thing that we all need to pay a lot more attention to. These are three amazing expert action steps.
01:08:25
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Sachin, brother, thank you so much for coming on the show. It was really awesome. My pleasure. It's my total honor. Thank you, Nikki. You're such an inspiration in my life and i loved our time together today. Thank you. right back at you, brother. You're an inspiration of mine and God bless you for everything you do for humanity and and for me and my family.
01:08:42
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Thank you so much. And that wraps up another exciting episode of the podcast, The Thought Leader Revolution. To find out more about today's incredible guests, the one and only Sachin Patel. First of all, go to breathworkwithsachin.com and get his free downloads, but go to the show notes at thethoughtleaderrevolution.com or on iTunes, you know Google Play,
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