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Ep. 6 - We Need More Nurses
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On this weeks episode, Denis and Michela talk about the Nursing dilemma across the nation especially based on their personal experience as visitors in the hospital. As the population ages, we face a huge issue with lack of care personnel that can keep up with demand.
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Family Updates and Adjustments
00:00:12
Speaker
Welcome back to Fuck You Boomer. I'm your host, Michaela. I'm here with my Papa Dennis. How are you doing today? i am really okay right now regarding everything. i' We're plugging away as a family, as we're trying to do.
00:00:25
Speaker
Yep, we sure are. And we are adjusting day by day, hour by hour, apparently. Oh, yeah. um I love getting updates. Oh, yeah, know. It's great. I know.
Nursing Shortage and Importance of RNs
00:00:35
Speaker
All right, we can't talk about that, but we'll talk about something that kind of relates to that.
00:00:39
Speaker
Yeah, we'll talk about... um yeah You wanted to talk about the nursing nursing shortage. in do you want to Do you want to be specific to the state or you do you want to be specific to the region?
00:00:52
Speaker
want please to to the To the United States. Yeah, i want to be specific to the United States because we have definitely a nursing shortage and there's a lot of reasons for it.
00:01:04
Speaker
And I wanted to get into some of the reasons that I've been reading about. And nursing is going to, is one of these things that um I had talked about, of course, with your mom, it was um a licensed LVN at the time, which now RNs are the way to go. But of course, for her job and what she's doing right now in the administrative part of nursing is very, very important.
Challenges in Nursing Education and Hiring
00:01:27
Speaker
So um what I was talking about though, and why there is such a shortage and what I've learned Over the period time, there's a lot of different factors that involve it.
00:01:38
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And one of it ah one of the main factors that came upon this is what we learned was what happens when like when a big disaster hits, especially a biological disaster or disaster. Like COVID-19.
00:01:50
Speaker
like COVID-19 and what what they went through. And um people dying on a regular basis in a heavy urban area like New York was a really good example, what happened. And what really kind of really ticks me off is we're still sitting around and keeping the same practices of how nurses get hired and how they're educated and everything else like that.
00:02:11
Speaker
when we need more of them, you know, that sort of thing. In general, health overall to help in certain areas. And have a tendency to um regard this position as, okay, you got to have this, you got to have that, you got to have all these things to become a nurse, which is fine to an extent. But I talked personally with one the other day And she thought it was ridiculous because that you can get so much through basic education, but to be ah to getting it on the practical side of things.
00:02:41
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And it's required that you have a master's sometimes to get a nursing degree in certain places on certain elevated types of stuff. And a bachelor's with like 10 years on the job of doing RN work.
00:02:54
Speaker
And taking these different classes along the way um is so important. She's teaching classes, as a matter of fact, on certain things like this to help nurses to get more expertise in certain areas of the body and all these chemical things that relate to it.
00:03:09
Speaker
But I wanted to talk about these factors that are that are causing a lot of this, that we're looking at these shortages. And um a lot of it has to do with... Like there's there's a history of it that goes back a lot of ways. And a lot of times in the U.S.,
00:03:26
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um it's compelled a lot of times, it sounds crazy, but the Department of Labor to conduct a study to determine its cause.
Hospital Struggles with Nursing Shortages
00:03:34
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And I go to detect, it's we go into a hospital sometimes and you hear it out of their mouths a lot of times that, I'm sorry, we just have so many patients and we can't, we'll get back to you as quickly as we can.
00:03:48
Speaker
And as a patient in a hospital situation, that is one thing a nurse should never have to say. She should never have to say, especially in a normal hospital situation where we're not going through a pandemic like COVID or something else that happens, but just basic things where individuals are coming off the street with their individual problems and all the things that were like that involve aging and everything else like that.
00:04:13
Speaker
But one of the big things is that we got an aging Nursing workforce. Okay. So there was a survey done back in 2020 and it was a national workforce survey at 19% of RN workforce for 65 and older.
00:04:31
Speaker
Some of them stayed on the job because they enjoyed it, but a lot of them can't retire because of the economy, and because of where they're at what happened, personal things, divorce, all these things. you know My asshole husband left me with bankruptcy. you know These kind of things that happen, and you're trying to keep your life together, and you got to keep working until you're almost 70.
00:04:52
Speaker
Then on top of that, with modern technology and everything that's going on, you got to stay on top of that. And you got to stay on top of modern techniques on how to get people healthy, how to keep them healthy when they're in your bed, that bed that you're you're responsible for, the multiple beds that you're responsible for.
00:05:09
Speaker
So yeah, it's it's a difficult situation. So that's one of the problems is you got an aging workforce. So they said that 19%
00:05:19
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They're 65 and older.
Aging Workforce and Future Demand
00:05:21
Speaker
also indicated that twenty two um over 22%, they stated that they planned on retiring in the next five years. And they might be retiring not just because they're turning 65 and maybe they think they can get Social Security, which most of them can't because they got to wait until they're 66 or 67.
00:05:41
Speaker
And the idiots in Washington are even trying to raise that up, trying to play games with it. But anyway... So we're looking about looking at the big picture here. We're looking at an estimated population. This percentage can be up over 757,000 nurses we're going to need you know in the next in the next few years.
00:06:04
Speaker
And we're not having enough going through school. And crazy things happen. Lottery systems? Lottery systems because they only have so many that they can have in a classroom.
00:06:16
Speaker
Well, you've got to have more people that maybe come from the nursing field, get into the classroom that can help to produce more nurses. And if you look at it from that big picture, even to say, for example, if you're 50 years old and you've got 25 years experience as a nurse, it's real important. But you what you've learned on the job of those 25 years to pass it on to the next group so they don't have to hit the ground running so much and be behind and try to get 25 years experience.
00:06:44
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in ah In a short period of time, when you can do that, help them as they're in nursing school to get them up and running on what the new techniques are and what they're doing on a daily basis. So I kind of find that interesting that they have to do that.
00:06:59
Speaker
Also, what we're also looking at is ah this aging population, which is going to require more nursing. So we obviously have a, you know, a growth in the demand for health care services as we age.
00:07:15
Speaker
So we're looking at a population of people in the United States. 65 plus is projected to hit 80.8 million. And that's going to be by 2020, pardon me, 2040.
00:07:27
Speaker
That's only 15 years from now. So yours truly is going to be 85. you know, hopefully. And um there's a chance that I will be in a hospital bed before I die somehow, some way.
00:07:40
Speaker
And that nurse is going to be working on me. I'm hoping that she's up on all the modern techniques, you know, that she might be 30 years old, but maybe she had all that helpful technology that those nurses that gain passed it on to them, you know, not just on the job, but in nursing school too.
00:07:58
Speaker
to help them as we learn more things about our bodies and we're all with new ah environmental problems, toxins and things like that in our natural environment. Here, have some more, have another drink with plastic, please. it' It's in a plastic bottle.
00:08:15
Speaker
Oh, we just
Systemic Issues in Nursing Education
00:08:16
Speaker
found out that that causes cancer. Oh, that's nice to know. Yeah. Didn't you know about Prop 65? It's everywhere. Yeah. Did you know? Yeah. Yeah. It's kind of funny. Old school is still the best way in certain things. Like for example, a glass bottle, you know, how many times, how many different things you can put in a glass bottle.
00:08:35
Speaker
Mexican Coke. Oh, oh man. Tell me about it. But yeah, with all that good American, all that cane sugar in it. Right. All right. So, and then you got, to okay. So you get, you get basically what we're looking at here. You got all these things that's going to happen. I don't want to bore you too much, but, uh,
00:08:54
Speaker
we're We're in a deal now. There's a diminishing supply of new nursing students, but that has a lot to do with how they're run. You know, your mother, um this is one of the things that happened, that she had her LVN, all that stuff, and she gets a letter saying that you have a the ability to get into the ah RN program. She goes, great, fantastic. She goes and get ready to enroll. Here's the letter. and i Oh, that was a mistake.
00:09:19
Speaker
The lottery system, we just we sent out the wrong letter to you. She should have basically at that time should have sued somebody, should have gone after him, said, I got this letter. Now you're telling me it's not valid?
00:09:31
Speaker
Which buddy did you let in? You know, there should never be a situation ever like that ever again ever happen to any, any person that's gone through the ah system and worked all these classes that you took LVN program that you've done.
00:09:46
Speaker
You want to learn about all this stuff. You're good up on everything like this. And now you got to sit around and wait and wait and wait. And how long are you going to wait as Everything changes in the nursing profession over a period of maybe a year or two new techniques.
00:10:03
Speaker
And all of a sudden it's like, you know, you might have been able to learn things in the LVN program, but now are no longer valid. Oh no, you have to repeat these courses. You got to do this. You got to do that. It's like, come on.
00:10:14
Speaker
You know, this is why you need more, vast more people in the educational process. And then by the time that I'm sitting in that hospital bed at the age of 80 or 85, you know, I've got enough nurses to take care of me on a regular basis. They work hard.
00:10:30
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12 hour shifts, three days a week, then every every other week or every third week, they go to a four day shift, you know.
Funding and Authority in Nursing Careers
00:10:37
Speaker
And then there's ones that also like this nurse I talked to, she's teaching in these other shifts that when she's not working, she's going out and working on these programs and helping a lot of things, but they just don't have enough of them to do that because it's so difficult.
00:10:51
Speaker
You know, you've got a family life too. You got to come home and you're going to be, you know, taken care of. She had a 10 year old and she started late in life. But it's it's one of those situations where, you know, you've got to you got to basically get your get get things done right. And a lot of that has to be through federal funding to have this.
00:11:11
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You know, you have to have some federal funding from taxpayers to have all this stuff going back into the states, all the states, Alabama, Mississippi and California, wherever people are going to be needed.
00:11:24
Speaker
This has got to be done so we can get these educational ah classes in order for these people to get and graduate and move on to jobs, you know, and you go into these jobs with the idea of being a nurse.
00:11:36
Speaker
ah You don't go in, well, i'm just going to get a nursing degree and then I'm going to go sell stocks, you know, or work for a finance company. I imagine there's some people like that. But if you really enter a health care field, you think that you would made up your mind by the time you're 21 to 22 years old.
00:11:51
Speaker
what you want I feel like a lot of people end up kind of deciding later in life if they want to go and become a nurse. That's why you probably see a lot of older nurses too. I feel like that's kind of a trend. I know people that I went to school with who ended up didn't even doing anything in art and they actually ended up going to medical school and they're becoming doctors and nurses instead.
00:12:12
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yeah And near the here we are approaching 30. Yeah. Yeah. And that's difficult too, because then you're also saying, okay, I'm going to put in, um say, for example, I'm going to get my first nursing job. I've decided to start my nursing education. If you could, you're obviously going to be very mature about life in a lot of ways because you've seen maybe some jobs you didn't like.
00:12:33
Speaker
Okay. you know And you understand maybe what some people are going through a little bit more when you're 30 rather than when you're 20 and you just Hey, I just got enough money to pay for rent in my first studio apartment, you know?
00:12:46
Speaker
So you got to learn a little bit along the way. So I think 10 years of experience in life is important too. But I honestly think that, uh, so we also look at besides these, these solutions that some of them came up with, they talked about, uh,
00:13:05
Speaker
preparing nurses to educate the next generation like I had talked about there. But I honestly feel that um some of the big pieces of the puzzle involves granting full practice authority on certain things like maybe without supervision and stuff like that for delivery, right?
00:13:24
Speaker
So you shouldn't have a doctor necessarily in the delivery room sometimes. There's nothing the matter. The only time a doctor should be involved is when the health the health of the mother and the baby are at risk.
00:13:35
Speaker
You know, when you've got that, and you also have the legal ramifications of that too. But I honestly feel that they can learn a lot dna a in ah in a situation where you're giving birth too, to helping to give birth to people and stuff.
00:13:50
Speaker
You know, so. You still there? Okay. Yeah, sorry. I had to mute myself because I had to sneeze. Oh, I understand. No problem.
Personal and Family Anecdotes
00:14:00
Speaker
um Right now, we've got a lot of... I've still got more pollen blowing around out here.
00:14:05
Speaker
yeah i just got finished ah moving a lot of... My two cords of wood are put away, which is good. But I've also got a lot of dust that I'm stirring up now with all the stuff I've got to separate all the little bit of... i get to do that next. Separate all the kindling now, the little pieces. Oh, nice.
00:14:22
Speaker
But youre prepared for fall and winter. Oh, yes. I'm preparing. I live in boonies, as you say. so After going up to Reno and seeing Bella graduate from nursing school, yeah great there were a lot of people that were actually in doing continuation education and they were doing master's and doing doctorates because they actually, there's a a larger request for higher education nurses than just regular BSN nurses.
00:14:53
Speaker
I think because I think a lot of – and that's how – it's kind of like the quick route to becoming a doctor because when you become a doctor like ah and nursing, then you're so then you're just a nurse practitioner.
00:15:05
Speaker
Yeah. That is true. and But here's the thing that and when I talked to this nurse about this about this, and she understands the nerd aspect of it because she's been a nurse for 15 years and she has a bachelor's of science degree and everything. But what she's learned over that period of time in nursing is really know how to deal with people.
00:15:27
Speaker
And like your mom, she picked that up by doing the simplest things of,
Nursing Education Experiences and Aspirations
00:15:33
Speaker
not even simple, but you have to deal with people in a service industry when you're talking about being a waiter. a waiter And how to deal with people. And there's so many kids that are going to school. Fine. They pass the test.
00:15:45
Speaker
It's called the people that can pass a test and not remember or remember anything after they pass the test because their brain doesn't work that way. It's a memorization step.
00:15:56
Speaker
Great. How do you apply it? You know, can you can you can you actually recall and remember what was taught in class six months later? You know, when all of a sudden you're on the job now and you're going, I think I remember that.
00:16:10
Speaker
It's like, no, that's not going to be good. Not good for the 85 year old guy sitting in the bed and you've got some, that's why you have a regular nurse with them as they're training, right? That's why you have doctors training people like that too. It's a training institution, ah that sort of thing. And that's why it takes so long to become a doctor, you know?
00:16:29
Speaker
And what I'm saying is that having to deal with people, the bedside manner is so important. She was so nice to the patient in the bed, you know, when I was talking to her about this and she was great.
00:16:44
Speaker
She was really good at it. Um, and she didn't talk to him, like talked over him. She talked to him, she treated him. You could see. Was this someone that was here or someone that was there?
00:16:57
Speaker
There. There meaning you, where you are? Or where I am. it's It's where I was. Yeah. Okay. And talking to her.
00:17:08
Speaker
And it was it was so important. yeah I don't know if that made sense. I meant, was it someone in Sonoma County or someone in San Francisco? It was someone in San Francisco. Oh, got it. Okay. She went to SF State and she put in her time there. Nice nice lady.
00:17:23
Speaker
Very nice. um In her early 40s, all that stuff. But very nice. Nice person. Very good nurse. And I got a chance to talk to her a little bit, not only about the patient, but about her and her work and everything.
00:17:36
Speaker
so Oh, was it someone that you met yesterday? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Was she the RN leader? um i believe that she had long reddish blonde hair.
00:17:49
Speaker
Yeah. I think her name started with an A. Yeah, I think. Yeah, she was nice. I met i met her in the morning. Did you? Okay. Yeah. her her her um She was a seven to seven.
00:18:00
Speaker
what she was. Yeah. She was getting off at seven o'clock. No, that's weird because ah the nurses work eight hour shifts there. Yeah, but she was doing some other things. She had a long shift and was doing other things too along the way.
00:18:13
Speaker
That's another thing that's also a big deterrent for the nursing ah department is a lot of people don't like the burnout. Yes. And the overtime that's required sometimes um at their individual corporate staff, that the corporation that they work for requires this. I think when they sign a contract, which I think is just kind of like, you know, you do have a personal life too.
00:18:35
Speaker
You know, that's rough. That's really rough. So what I'm, what I'm saying is that we need, um, we need There's a lot of things, and i think I think government support would be a big help in getting these schools open more so we can actually have enough to service our elder our older population in the future. And when people come across and they're younger, it's just as important when a person gets in an auto accident or something unexpected, falls off a ladder, and they're 35 years old or something, you know.
00:19:06
Speaker
And workers' compensation and things like that, they shouldn't be thinking about any of that stuff. They should get the best, you know, they keep talking about we have the best care in the world. Please. We do have some good care, but we also have a big problem with insurance companies.
00:19:22
Speaker
Oh, 100%. Yeah. be kind of involved with that. Piggyback off of the schooling, though. Yeah. Yeah. I'm 100% expanding education allow it because it's an impacted major.
00:19:37
Speaker
So many people apply, but programs only have limited spots. I do think that the program is very beneficial to having a smaller group only because i think the best people come out of the group with more hands-on experience where if they were to make it a larger graduating class, people are not going to get a lot of learning experience.
00:19:58
Speaker
So I think I think if there are schools that don't have programs or just maybe creating multiple different classes, but of the same field, I think that can be beneficial, but I don't think they should be increasing the overall class number because you might actually get shittier nurses than good ones.
00:20:14
Speaker
Yeah. i understand that. And that's why when I'm talking about that, I'm talking about needing more teachers of that to get the class size smaller. Yeah, definitely. Yeah. No doubt about it. With some of the the doctorate um graduates that were, cause like,
00:20:28
Speaker
The nursing graduation. Oh, I love who I went to go support, but that nursing graduation, it was so fucking long. Was it? This person. So they listed out all the doctorates first, then the masters. But for both of those fields, you you learned about their their what their doctorate is in.
00:20:46
Speaker
And then you also learned about their thesis when they're going on stage. So it's like five minutes per student. And you're just like, can we just get this going? And how many students were there?
00:20:59
Speaker
Uh, it was like a hundred. And you were sitting in the hot. No, actually this was inside. Okay. They did it. The nursing one was inside. It was no, it was like in some building, like some student building that had like a fourth floor auditorium.
00:21:15
Speaker
Okay. But it was, I was like, some of them were actually fairly interesting. I actually was very pleasantly surprised that one, one doctorate, um, graduate actually wants to devote herself to the VA. a Nice.
Healthcare Policies and Observations
00:21:29
Speaker
I was like, that's a good person. Yeah. ah Yeah. She probably has a veteran in her family or maybe multiples. Maybe. and i'm like Here's the thing about that. It's like, that's great, you know, doing that and helping them and everything.
00:21:42
Speaker
But you wonder how many have gotten their nursing degrees and everything like that in the military and then gone on to work for the VA afterwards. Yeah.
00:21:53
Speaker
You know, yeah ah that's a good person because at the VA, a um I don't know how much he's going to get paid as opposed to like a union a union type job and ah in a corporate hospital, you know.
00:22:07
Speaker
So when you're working for a corporate hospital and I do, there's a lot of them out there because we all know corporations love that medical money. They love it. They sure do.
00:22:17
Speaker
That medication. Medicare money comes in and everything else like that. Oh, my God. i saw headline that talks in D.C. this week are going to be about Medicaid.
00:22:30
Speaker
Oh, yeah. Oh, definitely. So, we'll find out they're playing these They're playing this game about, you got to work, boy. You want Medicaid. You better work. I'm in a wheelchair. I'm fucked up. ah yeah I got hit in a car i hitting with the car accident.
00:22:46
Speaker
You got to work. Really? Medicaid. Then you can become an umpire. Yeah. And then. And go boop. Boop. Exactly. Yeah. Exactly.
00:22:59
Speaker
So speaking of that, how are they doing right now? Because when I when i sat down with you, was three to one. ah Well, they just let a run go in for KC, Bobby Witt Jr. singles, and then Hunter Renfro scores.
00:23:13
Speaker
He's a nice. Three to. He's good player, man. That guy is a good player. Did I miss something? Why is a Schmidt replacing Chapman right now? um That's a good question.
Baseball and Personal Plans
00:23:25
Speaker
may I don't know if it was a rest or what the story was. I didn't. i didn't and i didn't Someone else called here and she picked up the phone.
00:23:35
Speaker
yeah Your bum-bum did. And I had to answer a little bit too. And meanwhile, when that happens, the game goes down to mute. And then, you know, you're talking on the phone. well no like he was on the starting lineup. He wasn't like in-game player.
00:23:49
Speaker
transition yeah So it was basically, it could have, it could have been, I want to see what Schmidt can do. I've given him a full game. He's been hitting the ball really well lately or whatever. And this guy's played every, this guy's played every game.
00:24:03
Speaker
When you play a shortstop at third base, it doesn't hurt you defensively, you know, because he can play third, short, second. I've even seen that. I think they were, I think he' they've been actually trying to train him for first. Cause I think they do want to get Lamont.
00:24:18
Speaker
a break sometimes. I don't even think he ever gets a day off. Yeah, he does. Every once a while, they stick, they stuck a VLR on there too. and and guy that they had for a while.
00:24:28
Speaker
And I don't even know if they're going to, think that they're just going to use Flores totally as a DH. Yeah. You know, the only problem with him is that, yeah, either he's been hitting the ball good lately and all the rest of those things, like the three home runs and the eight RBIs, you know, only to set ah ah yeah a New York, San Francisco Giants record, along with Mays and some other great players, you know.
00:24:50
Speaker
Oh, and your boyfriend's buddy had that record with the Giants, too. Three home runs and eight RBIs. So, yeah, he did that for the limited time he was with the Giants. Yeah.
00:25:03
Speaker
Yeah. He hasn't done it since. We don't speak his name. He's Voldemort now. Yeah, he is Voldemort, isn't he? Yeah. So, anyway, yeah. But, um so, anyway.
00:25:14
Speaker
Well, we're going to be going to a game in two weeks. Yes, I heard. I heard that that is going to happen. i heard that, I guess I have to come down and and probably meet you at the Willie Mays' statue, I guess, huh?
00:25:27
Speaker
Yeah. Most likely. That kind of thing. So you're going to walk to it? Yeah. I'll have to get off work a little early. I might go in early so I can get off early so I can get here. ah so then I can walk there or I'll just get a car.
00:25:43
Speaker
I don't want to drive there, but. Yeah. well yeah But on the way home, i might just entertain you by allowing you to drive me home so that I don't walk home by myself.
00:25:53
Speaker
Oh, you get to walk me over to the garage and where I park for $48.5 $100 an hour whatever it is. Oh, God. So bad.
00:26:04
Speaker
Whatever they're charging. yeah oh Highway robbery. I know. it's It's kind of crazy. I know. And they wonder why white people are upset about the cost of things. So...
00:26:19
Speaker
so I know I paid $30 for a michelada and I was like, I could buy like four of these at work. Really? Oh yeah. Easily. No problem. And it's better. Yeah.
00:26:31
Speaker
On top of it. Yeah. That'd be one thing if it was, you know, but sometimes you just look and you go, what they're charging. They're out of their minds. Well, yeah. With the amount of ticket prices are and all that. It's just yeah blasphemy. It's like Disneyland, but a baseball game.
00:26:47
Speaker
It is. yeah it is. and is. yeah All right. Did you want to talk about more about well i'm really the old geriatrics? Well, i think we're I think we're getting there as far as like,
Political Opinions and Preferences
00:27:01
Speaker
na you know, and looking at these future opportunities, they they look at it, try to, you know, gracefully in this article I was reading, but the reality is without these extended programs and important add-ons of of all the education that they're going to need, they're going to still come up short if they don't and increase the amount of people teaching it, you know, and throughout the whole country.
00:27:24
Speaker
And that's also going to be a situation too. Like this nurse that I talked to, obviously she was blessed because she could stay home. How many can't stay home? They just can't, they get educated and they got to go where the jobs are right now offered, you know, that kind of thing.
00:27:39
Speaker
Cause they got to start paying off their damn student loan, you know? Depending on what kind of institution that they go to, private schools can have up to $100,000 in student loans, but per year for public schools, they're like 10K each.
00:27:52
Speaker
Well, when you're looking at, she graduated from San Francisco State initially, you know, on that and moved on from there. And they did have a nursing program there too. So there's a lot of people, there's nothing to matter with the state state college.
00:28:04
Speaker
Not at all. There's nothing to matter with the state school at all, you know. Actually, the state school in San Francisco partnered with Sutter about doing a like an education program for nurses.
00:28:16
Speaker
There you go. Yeah. So that's, yeah. So these are, you know, this is part of the, part of the thing that's important and more state schools should do that. They should do that and they should bring in qualified people to teach it, you know, and, and this is where the government funding comes in for these things to happen too.
00:28:32
Speaker
So, yeah. No, they don't want to accept any school debt. They're like, fuck you. Guys start paying. They don't care about universal health care. I think we're all just going to be internally fucked.
00:28:45
Speaker
Yeah, it's just, you know, it's it's just ridiculous. It really is. Yeah. So anyway, um we know't we we all have to vote. We got to vote blue. I'm sorry.
00:28:56
Speaker
You got to. Got to vote blue. Yeah. Okay.
Football, Salaries, and Strategies
00:29:00
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So if you want to talk about another another topic, I don't want to wear this one out too much, but I want to also mention a couple of things about um right now, I know you're not a football fan or anything else like that, but somebody just got 5,500% increase in his yearly seasonal salary. Yeah.
00:29:22
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increase in his yearly seasonal salary Is it someone worth the money or someone that it's like, why the fuck do we still have them? No, it's basically the, the and it's it's the biggest contract that right as of right now, somebody signed as a quarterback to keep him.
00:29:43
Speaker
And he's a, he's a ah last pick in the draft quarterback. So let me tell you, these guys who go out and analyze people, that say, oh, is he's got the right height, he's got the arm strength, he's got the body type, the guy's a winner, gets out on the field, everything's flying around so fast, he doesn't read the reads properly, he doesn't communicate properly, he tries forcing the ball in into tight coverages that are so tight, the timing is off, and guys are picking him off or knocking it down or cleaning the clock of the of the wide receiver because it's so tight.
00:30:20
Speaker
And he doesn't give them a chance to break away. And he's throwing it quick because he's worried about all of a sudden guys are coming at him so fast. They're the best players in the world. That's the problem. And if you can't speed up but what you're doing or how you're doing it, you're going to be in trouble.
00:30:35
Speaker
So you get the best. They get these guys that have these big contracts and then they get stuck. Like we got to pay this guy and he's got to play for at least another two to three years on his contract.
00:30:47
Speaker
But the guys that have got a five-year contract and so much of it is guaranteed, they have to play them for a lifece at least three years until they get so sick and tired of it and somebody else is actually making more money than they are now per year that they go, you're benched. And now we're going to try to get rid of you for a lower-round draft pick.
00:31:06
Speaker
So when a guy comes in the draft and he's the last player picked, not the last round, but the 262nd player picked, he's not supposed to make the team possibly. Or if he does, he's going to be a third string quarterback, which is what he was.
00:31:24
Speaker
But he studies harder. He looks at things more. He's really smart. And all of a sudden they go, i think we made a mistake with the guy we wanted to play in the first part of the season. And all of a sudden this guy takes over because of injury and everything else.
00:31:41
Speaker
And he never lets it go. And this is an old, old song that has happened so many times to players, you know. like So I'm just going to stop you right there because you've just been on this long-ass tangent about some 5,000% increase on someone's salary, and you have yet to name who this fucking player is.
00:32:02
Speaker
The real people out there or football fans know it's Brock Purdy. Oh, got it. Okay, thank you. I had a feeling it was Brock Purdy, but I didn't know how you truly felt about him. So I'm – all Are you anti-Brock Purdy? I am all in favor of what they paid him.
00:32:19
Speaker
ah Congratulations. I've got no problem with that. If he goes out and he throws six straight interceptions, they're stuck with him. Congratulations. The same thing, but i don't I'm not wishing him ill will. I'm not wishing him an injury.
00:32:35
Speaker
I just think he's the one of the best young players that I've ever seen since. Joe Montana. and Steve Young, and I know that's a big bar, a large bar to try to get under, try to get over.
00:32:51
Speaker
I honestly think, though, he's got the potential of leading them to a Super Bowl, and you do that with good defense. and I mean, he has, um what, twice already? He's gone to the NFC Championship game, was one game short because he got injured in that game, and then the team didn't That was it. They lost him.
00:33:09
Speaker
And when you lose your starting quarterback early in the game, usually you end up losing that game. And it's a single game elimination, we all know, in football playoffs. But the big thing is then the next year he took them to the Super Bowl.
00:33:21
Speaker
<unk> Bing, bing, bing. But still, though, the team had to get better defensively. And that's what they did this year. They picked a lot of guys defensively in the draft. They got a back. Their old defensive coach from multiple years ago.
00:33:36
Speaker
And I think they're going to play a lot better defensively. So every time that they score a touchdown, it'll be a big touchdown. They don't have to worry about their defense holding them. You know, they will hold in a lot of situations.
00:33:49
Speaker
And teams that win championships usually win on the last defensive play a lot of times because they stop the other team, intercept the ball, cause a fumble, get it with no time practically left on the clock, and they run the clock out because they have the lead.
00:34:04
Speaker
I've seen that happen so many times on championship teams. You know, they go out and they win the game on the final drive, either scoring or holding them off from scoring, and they win those crucial games.
00:34:17
Speaker
And that's what you do. You got to win with defense a lot of times. So I'm really happy about what they've done so far in the draft, and we'll see. We'll see how it goes. Do you want to see something really cute?
00:34:28
Speaker
Sure. Okay. Well,
Light-hearted Personal Interactions
00:34:32
Speaker
he's purring. He doesn't look like he's happy. But he's purring. okay Look at this little distinguished gentleman with his bow tie. It always reminds me. I don't know what it is, but it reminds me of Chip and Dale strippers.
00:34:46
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He does. yeah so yeah He's a stripper kitty. Stripper kitty.
00:34:54
Speaker
and when you put When you put those on him, they're so funny looking. I don't know why. He's per and aggressive right now. It doesn't look like he's horny, but he definitely is. Super, super aggressive. hu Yep.
00:35:08
Speaker
That's hilarious. Okay. Yes, I know. That means you want to be put down. There you go I just had to show you because I knew that you would appreciate that. But no, okay. Going back to football. Okay. Well, then here's this. Let's just say this this current season, got to get into it. And then...
00:35:23
Speaker
If I get into it legitimately, then I finally get that 49er starter jacket that's been hanging out in Bumum's bedroom for like 28 years. Oh, yeah, baby. Yeah. Because I have the Giants one. I need the Niner one.
00:35:37
Speaker
You need vintage. You want to go to vintage, show it off to your friends and go look what I got? want to look like the cool girl at the tailgate. yeah You do not have one of these, do you?
00:35:48
Speaker
You can tell you're a bandwagoner because you got all the new shit on. Yeah. We know. Fucking loser. yeah Back in 1981, when I had sat through two, a couple of really bad, bad seasons as a season ticket holder back in the late 70s.
00:36:04
Speaker
Two and 14, two and 14. Finally, six and 10. They got a little bit of offense. And then this was Bill Walsh took them over. couple years, the 79 season, two and 14, 1980, six and 10.
00:36:17
Speaker
really bad defensive teams. You can almost sit in the stands. You got a 28 to 10 lead at halftime. And you're going, I'm sitting with a guy who's a Broncos fan next to me.
00:36:28
Speaker
And I'm telling him, I brought him to the game. And I said, listen, Mark, I said, it's 28 to 10. Don't get upset because they will fold in the second half. Four touchdowns later by the Broncos in the second half, 38 to 28 final score.
00:36:43
Speaker
Fine. He goes, how'd you know that? I said, because I've seen this act before. You watch a lot of football and you know what teams are really good in the long run when you watch them, especially play defense.
00:36:55
Speaker
And all I saw in the first half was I saw a lot of luck and a couple of blown calls that Denver did on defense that made the 49ers look good on offense. And then all of a sudden they buttoned that up at halftime and they went on to win the game 38 to 10 in Candlestick Park.
00:37:13
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So the reality is this. Teams win second half of the game, especially the last five, 10 minutes of the game in the fourth quarter on defense. I hate that expression. Everybody says it, but defense does win championships.
00:37:28
Speaker
Pitching and defense in baseball wins championships. Same thing. Basketball, you play really, really good defense, especially in the fourth quarter when the game is tight. You can end up blowing out the other team with a 10, 12,
00:37:42
Speaker
ten twelve 14 point run, just ding, ding, ding. And they're down with two minutes to go You know what happened? Well, they played, decided to play defense, you know?
Modern Slang and Generational Differences
00:37:54
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. And that's why we fumbled in the post season. Yeah. Well, two years ago. Yeah. It was a deal where they fumbled and, and that's why I'm talking about basketball right now.
00:38:05
Speaker
Oh, yeah. Yeah. That was a big thing. Yeah. And also you had a star player, too, who gets doesn't get enough play a credit for his defensive play. You know, he doesn't get enough credit for that.
00:38:16
Speaker
It takes a long time to look at a guy's career and realize, you know, opposite of him, I've seen a lot of players that are point guards, too, and they don't seem to score against the Warriors as well when Curry's in the game.
00:38:28
Speaker
That's because not just because of how he plays with his own team, picking up things, but he also handles a lot of stuff when it's required one on one. So I'm happy so far with the draft. I'm happy with the Warriors. Even next year, they're going to make additions and they're going to they're going work on some things and he'll get back. He'll be healthy. he'll only be 38.
00:38:47
Speaker
Keeps his body in shape. Only 38? Holy shit. That's 32 years younger than me. What's the problem?
00:38:57
Speaker
That's only 10 years older than me. Exactly. Think about that. Actually, no, he's only nine years older than me because next year he'd be 38 and I'll be 29. Yeah, that's true.
00:39:08
Speaker
That's true. So, um, want to get into the vocab? Yeah. Let me do yours first. Okay. I mean, you, you, you give me yours first. I'm sorry. Okay. Um, I don't know. I think maybe you might know this one and I'll be, um, I'll be, I'm actually, I might be surprised if you don't know it.
00:39:24
Speaker
Okay. Riz. Oh my God. Riz. This person's got some great. This person's got Riz. Yeah. um When I first heard it, when I first heard that expression months ago, when I first heard it, it sounded to me like this guy shows he's got great respect.
00:39:45
Speaker
He gets great respect from other people. But actually, when it turned out to me, it was even a, I call it even a softer term because having that kind of like, okay, notoriety, that kind of stuff, and kind of like celebrity, more of a celebrity rep, you know, that kind of thing. And having, oh, everybody likes him, that sort of thing. Well, yeah, but I think real respect and everything like that is earned, not just because of who you think you are right off the bat.
00:40:18
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so So what's your final definition? I would say basically i would consider it a soft term for having kind of like, yeah, he's got some real okay ability, ah that kind of thing, and I respect him for what he can do.
00:40:39
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okay But it's kind of on a soft term for me. Okay, go ahead. um Riz is short for charisma. Okay. Which is celebrity. Which is, it's specifically in the context of someone's ability to attract romantic interest. Okay, that's one of the definitions, yeah.
00:40:58
Speaker
Yeah, basically it's, you use it if someone has game. Okay. Like, oh, he's got a lot of riz because he can definitely pick up that chick. Okay, so see what I mean about soft terms?
00:41:12
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about it's a term to me that I look at and I go, does it mean a lot? Okay. Like a lot of these terms, right? Okay.
00:41:23
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I'm going to give you one here. Okay. It's called bake a biscuit. Bake a biscuit? Yeah. That ain't your boy baking biscuits either. Uh-uh, uh-uh.
00:41:37
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doing dough he's If he's making biscuits, I got to throw that blanket out because it's definitely going to be
00:41:45
Speaker
cracked in half. So one of them was barf or vomit. Okay. That's basically one of the things that some of the modern kids used to say. But even before that, back in the 50s.
00:41:58
Speaker
Oh, I didn't even get to guess and you just fucking just went into it. That's one of them. But here's another one. Back in the fifty s this guy I'm going to give you the second one, which is going to be harder. But I'm going to put it into context for you to help you a little bit.
00:42:10
Speaker
Okay. Man. I didn't know that that group was going to be bacon biscuit. Bacon biscuit.
00:42:21
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I didn't know that group was going to be bacon and biscuit. Yeah. um
00:42:27
Speaker
Like, was it is it a term of like maybe like the group is breaking up? ah you're close ah You're close to that, but not quite. It's more like a... Okay, keep going. See if you got any others.
00:42:40
Speaker
No, I kind of feel like ah it's throwing me off because for something about baking and bun in the oven, it makes me think something something about pregnancy, but it's throwing me off. And then now that you're saying barf and vomit, I feel like it has to be something compared to that.
00:42:58
Speaker
So i'm ah I don't know. See, that's the funny thing about terms a lot of times. in different This is really important because in different generations, they mean different things. Like the expression you just said about he's got some riz.
00:43:09
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Well, maybe in the future, it might mean something else. Because one of the definitions was bake a biscuit, was barf or vomit. And that was basically... That was basically things that kids used to say when you you know had too much to drink, whatever, you threw up, that sort of thing.
00:43:25
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But where the where it originally came from, actually, was about groups making an album, you know making a ah song album, you know that kind of thing. Biscuit, iss round, CD. Yeah.
00:43:37
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Isn't that weird? Yeah. So these terms kind of, they can vary from from different. and When you talk about the generation of the 50s as opposed the generation of the 60s, even in the musical terms,
00:43:48
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um things can have different meanings at different times they evolve. Okay? Yeah. So I think that's that's kind of cool.
00:44:00
Speaker
I got another one here for you. Oh, God. Okay. Just one more. This is good. lay it out hand Cow-handed. Cow-handed? Yeah. um You got hit in the face with a cow pie.
00:44:13
Speaker
ah No. It means awkward. It's like a person working with their hands or something and they got hooves for high hands. Oh, so they're like. Yeah, cow handed.
00:44:24
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I kind of, that is an expression also used like in sports too. Like weight going way back. You know, you could say that was a that was not a very good catch. Very cow handed, right?
00:44:35
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When you're talking about a football or a baseball catch. I got it. Okay. They had, here's another one here. Funny things, the terms they used to give, they used to give ballplayers like that weren't good fielders.
Movies and Historical Contexts
00:44:47
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One of my favorites in the 60s was Dr. Strange Glove. Now that was from the 60s because of the movie Dr. Strange Love. I'm really dating you now.
00:44:58
Speaker
If you ever get a chance to see that movie, it is it is a satirical movie about the atomic bomb. And stuff, you know, and Peter Sellers is is one of the actors and he plays a couple of parts in the movie.
00:45:12
Speaker
One of them, plays an ex-German scientist and he can't keep his right hand down. He keeps wanting to hail Hitler. Oh, he wanted to Elon? Mm-hmm. you Kind of, yeah. You want to call it the Elon, right?
00:45:26
Speaker
But he was like, see, see, no, general, no, no, no. And the general's guy is, you know, he's trying to talk to him about how much devastation that atomic bomb is. And this guy came from the German, ah you know, we used a lot of Germans for rocket science as well as helping in the atomic bomb later after the more powerful hydrogen bombs as well. Anybody that had science backgrounds, we wanted their brain power.
00:45:50
Speaker
So he basically kidnapped them or took them out of Germany before the Russians could get them. as you're aware of. I'm sure you, were ever taught about that at all? About what? About us, how we basically, I don't think it was called, don't know if it was Operation Paperclip, and there was actually an outfit that actually went in, and as people were arrested, they sorted out German scientists, especially people in rocketry and things like that.
00:46:16
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Everybody knew about Verner. definitely don't think I learned about that. Okay, Werner von Brahm. was one of the main rocket scientists that built the Apollo program with his other guys that sent our astronauts to the moon.
00:46:30
Speaker
And this was the same guy that created the V2 rocket that was bombing London and Britain and things like that. Okay. So they were a little bit ahead of us on rocketry and stuff.
00:46:43
Speaker
And we had to catch up because the Russians were going to get some of them too as well. So we we got some of them. It's not like you know like our scientists were dumb, but if there's any kind of a situation where we knew anything that we needed help with, you could have somebody come in.
00:46:59
Speaker
And just like you know when they when they built these rockets and everything like that, it took them a while and the Russians were ahead of us for a while until they went full bore, head bore, and we went more on the scientific side of things where really analyzed stuff.
00:47:15
Speaker
Instead of, hey, we're going to make six of these rockets. We're going to see which one flies. And if that one flies well and goes where we want it to go, then we're good. If the other four five blow up right away right here, and they're all the same rocket, but there might be some tweaks that they kind of learn along the way. We did kind of the same thing.
00:47:31
Speaker
But the problem is we have a tendency to be real safe and not put a man on the top of it before it was actually sure it would reach the atmosphere where we wanted to go. And we went, to give you an example, suborbital flight first with Alan Shepard, which was basically just a little bit better than Numbnuts has taken people up to the Karman line, which is 62 miles.
00:47:52
Speaker
miles We went a little bit higher than that, but we didn't put him into orbit. And Alan Shepard came back and then John Glenn went to orbit. In the meantime, what do the Russians do? Oh, they send their individual, Yuri Gagarin, the first guy in space.
00:48:07
Speaker
They send him to orbit just like that around the planet three times, four times. I think it was. And bring him back safely to earth. So it makes you look really bad. He went and said, instead of making a layup, we're going to shoot not a three-pointer, but we're going to shoot from half court, dude.
00:48:26
Speaker
That's basically what it was. And long story short, it was just a penis measuring contest. In the long run, it's what it turned out to be. Yeah. And the Russians so many times tried to get to the moon, but we got there because of science, because of who we had working, not just our scientists, but the ones that we basically brought from Europe and also the education along the way that we gave all these people. And we also took, there was also British scientists that came to back to the U.S. to get all this funding and money and stuff spent to go to the moon, you know?
00:49:03
Speaker
Mm-hmm. So, and then meanwhile, we got idiots saying we never went. it Well, have you seen that movie with Scar, Joe? It's very believable. Oh, God. It's actually a really cute rom-com. I really enjoyed it.
00:49:16
Speaker
I'm sure you did. I did. It had Channing Tatum in it. Oh, my God. Of course. There was no stripping, though. Like, can't believe it. None?
00:49:27
Speaker
None. He actually played a rocket scientist. Yeah. yeah That was a stretch.
00:49:37
Speaker
Channing Tatum, a rocket scientist. Okay. Yeah, like he was the leader of his NASA group and they were trying to launch the rocket to go land on the moon. He is the guy that basically became the sex symbol, when I think of him, kind of after these other sex symbols that tried to do stuff in the 70s and 80s and they just kind of graduated more to B-movies, you know.
00:50:03
Speaker
Stuff like that. and then he comes along and everybody's got their, every girl on the planet's got their tongue out for him. You know? Well, if you can move your hips like that, you'd get the same reaction from other people.
00:50:15
Speaker
Just saying. Thank God I never had to do that. I'm only, I'm only trying to get one person to react to me. That's all I want is just one.
00:50:26
Speaker
And you're lucky. I'm so sorry, but that's all I want, all I need. I'm fine. I'm happy. Okay, whatever, whatever. and then All right.
Episode Conclusion
00:50:36
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I think that calls it for this week.
00:50:39
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Sure. Unless you have anything else you want to include. If I want to elaborate on and go nuts, no. No, you can save We're good for you now. And I've been trying to get better sleep to get myself. So in case I have to drive places where I don't want to have to drive, but I'll go.
00:50:55
Speaker
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00:51:13
Speaker
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