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The Single Rider Line Episode 24: Your Favorite Coaster Sucks!
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Lance is back at it again but with Your Favorite Coaster Sucks! We talk about coaster news, recap some of our recent trip, and discuss the overall state of some parks. Lots of laughs and a good time in this one!
Your Favorite Coaster Sucks (YFCS)
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Transcript
Theme Park Excitement Begins
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Speaker
Sunday! Sunday! you ready for the highest and fastest coaster in the world? Are you ready for... This
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island dares you to come face to face with the beast. The beast. 7,000 feet. You um
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hear my voice. The Loch Ness Monster. It's Andy Can-Ammy.
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wow Oh, no. Mr. Pop. Mr. Pop.
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All riders waiting and on top
Meetup at Magic Mountain
00:01:10
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of the tractor. We are currently experiencing a mechanical issue and we do not know the length of the delay. And welcome back to the Single Rider Line 3.
00:01:18
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Coming up on three weeks later by the time this comes out, probably at midnight on Wednesday, April 2nd. I hope you all are doing well. I apologize for the super long, super long extended break.
00:01:33
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As promised on Twitter about two weeks ago, after ah prior to me getting sick, ah we got we got some more guests on here. so some some friends of mine, go ahead and introduce yourselves.
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Zach, go first. Nice place you got here. I'm Zach. Thanks for having us. Yeah.
00:01:55
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Yeah, i don't want to i don't want to step on your toes. You're the host. No, you're good, man. i'm just ah I'm just kind of opening up the floor. This is this is never the most the smoothest part of of the of the thing. it just It's just kind of whatever.
00:02:09
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um Yeah, and ah I'm Ben, and also like intros are awkward for me. so nobody Thanks for having us. Yeah. Last time we we talked in person was at what at the meetup you guys had in california that was you said it was a month ago now zach well it's it's it's april 1st and we were on the meetup on march 1st so it's been approximately a month yeah wasn't the first the first day at magic mountain let me thought that was friday no that was the 28th march yeah march 28th i think was it was the first day not that it particularly matters but yeah the first was the day we we sat around and waited all day for uh
00:02:55
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West Coast race shirt. Had that guy with the RMC shirt. Yeah, we met a couple enthusiasts at Magic Mountain that day. Yeah, there were quite a few there. And, like, I wish... It's funny, it's like half of them, I kind of wish I would have talked to more. And then the other half, I'm glad we stood our ground and, like...
00:03:17
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Didn't get too involved, but oh yeah, there was quite a few people there. There's always, i feel like there's a, it's very black or white with...
00:03:28
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with ah enthusiasts, they're either like super cool or people that you don't really want to talk to. And it's just, there's never, there's never like the in-between space, at least from my, from my experience.
Navigating Social Dynamics at Theme Parks
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I don't know if that's like a consistent thing or.
00:03:43
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I think that, I think for me, it's like less of the conversation and less of the type specific person. It's more about not getting trapped. Like, getting trapped into a conversation when you want to get out of it and then not being able to find an exit is what's tough like it knots
00:04:03
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Yeah. That was ah that was a um textbook trapped by a Thuse situation. but In front of the the bathroom.
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it would say It's like the path is so tiny there. It's like me and this other fat dude taking up the entire thing. I don't know if this was in intentional or not, but I remember you looking over at me and Ben, Zach, and just like a plea for help. And we just couldn't tell if that was if you were genuinely in the conversation.
00:04:37
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well it was in I think after the five minute mark, if we're strangers at a park, I'm going to be looking for help regardless. Well, the tough spot, because it's a hard place to like go rescue somebody, because it's like you're walking up to the entrance of the bathroom, and then you've got three people crowding the entrance of the bathroom.
00:04:57
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It's like a weird spot to go up to. Yeah, you can't be like, oh, I just came up to take a piss, but like now that I'm here to and found you, I'm good. And then his friends came up and they were like, Oh, we're sorry about that. And then proceed to chat our ear off for and yeah another four or five minutes.
00:05:17
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Well, they were like, they're kind of were testing it too. Cause they thought they knew that Zach was an enthusiast, but they were like testing to see if we were, they thought like we were sort of just like non-enthusiast people, like outside of the conversation. Then once they're like, Oh, you guys are enthusiasts.
00:05:34
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Have you been on this? Have you been here? Have you been there? Yeah, we got on this. And it's like, okay. We don't particularly care what you've rode. We can watch the POVs online.
00:05:46
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It's cool, but also just leave us alone. And I'm also just going to say blanket rule. if If I don't know you and we're talking coasters at a park and you're shitting on my count because it's mostly in America, but you're not really making any brownie points.
00:06:04
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It's kind of just being a dick for no reason.
00:06:08
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ah Yeah, you're correct. I haven't been to Thailand. Thanks. You know, also, I'm even fine with like asking about counts and talking about counts, but there's that, like, there's kind of like a line. It's like a checkpoint of like, after the five minutes, small talk Mark, then you have to be like, okay, like, where is this going?
00:06:28
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You clearly got something somewhere you're trying to be We're trying to go somewhere too. Like, let's be polite and, Find a transition of the conversation. Yeah.
00:06:39
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I think the only time that's kind of acceptable is if like you're both at a park by yourself. I think I have met some cool people whenever I was just there by myself and ended up hanging out with them the rest of the day because I had nobody else to hang out with. I don't know if you guys have had that experience at all or.
00:06:54
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Yeah. Yeah. but It's kind of like, well, it's 50, 50 and there's no way to really, there's no line to draw. And I don't know how you draw the line. It's like, If I'm by myself, I don't mind talking to somebody, but at the same time, it can easily go the other way where I don't want to talk to somebody. Yeah.
00:07:11
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I don't know. It's sort of like um the rule about approaching, like hitting on somebody in public where it's like, it's like rule one, like be hot rule to don't be not hot or something, whatever they say.
00:07:29
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don't know for this. Yeah, it's it's basically like if someone approaches you to hit on you in public, it's be they're either goingnna it's either goingnna work or you're going to be a creep. There's no in between.
00:07:41
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that is that is that i mean That sounds about accurate. I don't particularly... i mean, do either of you hit on people in public? know Zach doesn't. I don't believe Ben does either. It's been a few years, and I think that muscle is one of those use it or lose
Coaster Enthusiast Anecdotes
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it ones.
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I mean, it's not so much hitting on people. and it's not Here's the thing, right? It's not hitting on. It's just being polite. Like, it's starting a conversation, but then being able to read when you can, like, when to stop.
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Like, it's a very, like, you know what i mean? Like, just don't cross that line of being weird. Yeah. ah feel Well, I think the problem is a lot of people want to progress that conversation a little too quickly. Yeah. Yeah.
00:08:25
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goes from, hey, how you doing, to, you know, want to bang? In about five seconds. um But, yeah yeah, you're right about just being polite. i mean Actually, good parallel there. Like, asking, ah or going from the how are you doing to do want to bang is almost a good parallel to, like, asking about somebody's coaster count.
00:08:49
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Like, I don't know how you draw the line, but it's it's kind of the same. It's the same deal. i mean So you ah like coasters?
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and
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Have you guys ever had the misfortune of having ah somebody start talking to you about coasters that is like just trying to be polite but very clearly just does not know whatsoever what they're talking about?
00:09:20
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I mean, we kind of did it at not i mean at to a Magic Mountain with with that one guy. But... Like any aside from that that you've had or or no? Yeah, a couple times. And those ones are tough because you have to like really just kind of nod and be agreeable and just be like, yeah, that's a cool ride.
00:09:41
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Like because you can't correct if you're if you start being correct, you know, correcting somebody and. doing Well, actually, it can you can become a dick. so Yeah, yeah i don't I don't do nerdy talk, except for with like people that are actual friends.
00:10:00
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Oh, absolutely, yeah. Anyone who's not an actual friend that like I know is on like a similar level with the nerdiness, I'm just like, oh yeah, that's ah it's a good ride, yep.
00:10:12
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Oh yeah, i have been to the one in Ohio.
00:10:17
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It's like, i don't know if you've seen ah mad movie Madagascar with the penguins just smile and wave, boys. they The penguins just standing there on the rock.
00:10:29
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Pretty much. Yeah. Yeah. Just like, uh-huh. Yeah. The only exception though, is like when I meet people who are from, who like moved, especially in Chicago, when I met people who moved from other places, I would ask them where they were from and then be like, Oh, like, have you ever been to, you know, six flags America or wherever they're from? And they're like, Oh shit. Yeah. You've been there.
00:10:56
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Yeah. Yeah, what's funny too is like when you throw out like a really small park, um like Lake Winnipesaka was one, where there was a group of people from georgia like if somewhere in Georgia, here in Denver, we were just like talking at a bar.
00:11:14
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They're like, oh yeah I'm from here. and I'm from here, whatever. And it's like, oh, have you ever been a li been a Lake Winnipesaga? I think they call it Lake Winnie. And they're just like, yeah. And then they they almost got weird out. They're like, you why have you been there?
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li
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They're like, seriously, like who the fuck goes there? like I went there when I was like i went through when i was like five. It's a shithole.
Exploring Unique Parks
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What's the name of this park exactly? like when when he ah you look up W-I-N-N, you should be able to find it on RCDB.
00:11:50
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It's actually kind of a cool park, though.
00:11:54
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Their shoot-the-shoots or boat ride or log flume or whatever it is is supposed to be dope. I mean, it's not in filtered water. It's like pond water. It's really gross.
00:12:07
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Oh, so by dope, they mean like amoeba dope. It's historical. it's historical Oh, they okay. So they have two coasters. canada historical in A historic amount of people have died on this log floor.
00:12:24
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And like Cannonball is a decent coaster. It's like, it's, it's fine.
00:12:31
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I need to find... So that it's in Rosville. Is that like outside of Atlanta? or Where is that? um I think it's near the Tennessee border. Yeah.
00:12:45
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mean i should have I should have hit this park up on my trip I had ah few years back. I don't know that I'd recommend making a special trip for it. Not that I've been there, but... Well, I mean, just like... it was on we were going to...
00:13:01
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airy force one and i don't know if um if this is on the way you know might as well just swing by grab the credits and bounce you know it's a yeah and it's like a historic wooden coaster with buzz bars and airtime yeah if i'm not mistaken that's a john allen um let me see Yes, it is. Yeah, so I need to get there because, I mean, those John Allens are rarer and rarer every year. I'm pretty sure Cannonball has a slight nod to the Confederacy.
00:13:39
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Oh, God, how's this?
00:13:42
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i mean Well, it was built by unpaid labor. Oh, well, that um I feel real safe with that. and I'm pretty sure like I remember on the PBS, there was a PBS show that talked about this park.
00:13:57
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and I think at that time, they were flying a Confederate flag on the lift hill.
00:14:03
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I'm looking at pictures on RCDBC if anything pops up. There is a flag next to... i don't know what Georgia's state flag looks like, though. they were like They were flying the Confederate flag at the top of the lift hill and they were like, the South will lift again.
00:14:21
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Okay, so that is definitely not the Georgia State flag. it's a It's like red, and it's got a circle with three stars in the middle. It's not a Confederate flag, but I don't... It's the Grand Wizards flag.
00:14:37
Speaker
All right. Flag research the podcast, because I'm curious now. God
North Korean Coaster Adventures
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hates flags. Okay.
00:14:50
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Red flag with stars and circles.
00:14:57
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This is real in-depth research on the spot.
00:15:02
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i Something tells me it's not the North Korean flag or the flag of Tunisia. Tunisia? That'd be pretty great if they were flying the North Korean flag.
00:15:13
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Oh my god, I'm an idiot. It's the flag of Tennessee. Oh, The TriStar flag, yeah. The North Korean flag in Southern United States.
00:15:27
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This tiny park and they're just like, I'll hail the great leader.
00:15:35
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All the internet. Supreme leader. we hope one day Supreme Leader will come visit.
00:15:43
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The in-park Wi-Fi takes you to takes it to whatever the North Korean version of the internet is. I figure forget what they have there. and know they have know it's Do they even have internet there? I don't think they do.
00:15:55
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We're in Tennessee? No.
00:16:02
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No, North Korea. Great new game show. Tennessee or North Korea.
00:16:15
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My face hurts already from laughing. God. They technically do have Wi-Fi or internet, but it's like their own it's like their own version of it.
00:16:28
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North Korean internet. Wikipedia is just a blank page.
00:16:35
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Internet in North Korea, according to Wikipedia. Yeah. is only available from one ISP. um And... All the reviews are five stars.
00:16:51
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Okay, so it's only you can only use it if you have proper authorization and it's used for government purposes and by foreigners.
00:17:02
Speaker
They have fiber optic there? What? So I think the real goal here is we've got to get the single rider line one stream in North Korea.
00:17:14
Speaker
What? One stream in Korea? I'll be honest, that joke went way over my head because I'm not smart enough for this...
00:17:24
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I'm just saying, if we can get one person to press play on the Single Rider Line podcast from North Korea. Oh, you mean stream. You said stream, and I was thinking, like, water. And I was like, what the hell does water have to do with the podcast?
00:17:38
Speaker
It's been a day, man. So if i if I go there, I know that... You're not supposed to. it sounds like a no-fly list, but I know you can get into North Korea. So just go there, play an episode from North Korea, and then leave immediately.
00:17:56
Speaker
Then, you know, I'd say that's mission accomplished, yeah? Well, if you're there, you probably want to try and get the credits that are there, too. They have credits? and There's no way they... Are you serious?
00:18:08
Speaker
Yeah, they've got, like, um one of those Misho... Yeah, they've got a couple. I want to say they maybe have a half dozen or so. North Korean roller coasters.
00:18:23
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Talk about a safe coaster. Yeah, i I'm sure it's real safe. Seven existent roller coasters. Oh, it's seven. Okay, so I was close. I said half dozen.
00:18:35
Speaker
Three of them are all named the same thing. Super fun ride. Kiwanisong... I don't know how to pronounce that.
00:18:47
Speaker
So we got a Zamperla wild mouse. That's probably the highlight.
00:18:57
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We've got a Micho jungle mouse.
00:19:02
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And we've got a another Micho wild mouse. But this one's from... Since 1982. Man, this is an old one.
00:19:14
Speaker
Okay, never mind. This is a formerly existing. Wait, I can't. The sad thing is I'm looking at pictures of this. I can't tell if it's defunct or not just because of how overgrown and destroyed everything is. But there's somebody going up the lift hill. So I can't tell anymore.
00:19:32
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I mean, it. There's a good chance either way. it could be one of those things they let only run it like one day, one day a year. It says operating since 1982, so it's, i I guess it's operating? i mean Well, it's got to be pretty hard to get an update on the operational status of a fucking North Korean coaster.
00:19:53
Speaker
You can't exactly call them.
00:19:57
Speaker
Hi, yes. This is a RCDB calling. is Is the Michu Looping Dragon going to be open today?
00:20:09
Speaker
Kind of funny, but one of their other coasters that they have there in Pyongyang is called Inertia Airplane Car. and I think it's kind of fitting that it's a Zamperla Volair, which is, for as shitty as a country North Korea is, you know, you got to have the shitty coasters there, too.
00:20:27
Speaker
Airplane car. That's probably the most amazing thing rollercoaster wise they've ever seen there. It probably is. And while we're on the topic, ah Time Warp is being demolished if you guys have not seen or heard.
Theme Park Changes and Rumors
00:20:43
Speaker
Yeah, that's fine. I'm honestly surprised it's still there.
00:20:50
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it's been I'm okay with this. I like that's the one coaster that's been taken out where there's been not a single person that I've seen complaining, even an even in the slightest about it.
00:21:02
Speaker
I think it's crazy that that ride, i mean, for a Cedar Fair, like that ride existing in a Cedar Fair property, especially one of the most visited Cedar Fair parks.
00:21:15
Speaker
It's just weird that their highlight attractions at one point were literally Volair and an SLC.
00:21:22
Speaker
Paramount did not do a very good job. I think we can all agree on that. Yeah. Yeah. But like, even like keeping that though, like, it's not like taking a Valera out. It's not like, it's not like it's a, you're going like the cost of it is nothing. Like why? I don't know.
00:21:40
Speaker
There's no point of keeping it. Yeah. My guess is that like it it probably costs them more to take it down than it would be to operate it each year. They're probably just thinking, yeah, just, just leave it in you know, until we can get a replacement for this area.
00:21:56
Speaker
but That's my guess. But I mean, you know, you don't want just leave a giant section open in the back of your park for five plus years. Kings Island. Um,
00:22:08
Speaker
Watch Great Adventure for the next five years. i I really hope you're wrong about that.
00:22:16
Speaker
Whatever is replacing Kingda Cod better it be something truly mind-blowing. Look, I'm no fortune teller, and I'm certainly no economist, but...
00:22:28
Speaker
I'll let the your listeners fill in the punchline there. yeah I heard some more good news from Canada's Wonderland. All right, let's hear it. They added track to the Mighty Canadian Mind Buster.
00:22:40
Speaker
Oh, yeah, I heard that too. Is it getting Titan or just ah the Gravity Group refurb or pre-cut? No, I think it's it's it's not Titan track, but it's not a retrack either. They, like, added ah section.
00:22:58
Speaker
Like, it's actually a thing. it's not like ah It's not like, oh, we replaced the wood here. They, like, added i think they said it was like a couple school buses long.
00:23:13
Speaker
so they So what did they like take out the turnaround or something? ah See, that I don't know. i don't i don't have all the details. I don't come in prepared. You know this, Ben.
00:23:23
Speaker
Let's see. I give you breadcrumbs. You don't get the whole piece from me. I'm going through Reddit and the AI overview right now. and thank thankfully this time i have an excuse this is not our show i'm not on host duty yeah that yeah you're fine so according to thousand feet yeah nine and yeah take this with a grain of salt unless uh because it doesn't say what what is your source for this okay the source is uh coaster 101 they're pretty they're pretty reliable yeah
00:24:01
Speaker
They're fine. I saw it on Twitter. You know, the most reliable place in the their regional spokesperson, Grace Peacock, confirmed replacement of 960 feet of Mighty Canadian Mind Buster using Gravity Group's pre-cut track system as opposed to traditional methods of using horizontal plywood.
00:24:25
Speaker
um And then it just kind of goes into the
00:24:31
Speaker
the how pre-cut works but a but is this like a is this a weird like um wording thing though because it's so this is saying they're removing a thousand feet of track to allow new track to be installed but does new track just mean like footers in place but new track on top, or is it are they actually like extending the ride?
00:24:59
Speaker
My guess is that it's kind of similar to what they did to the Beast in 2022, where they kept the footers, but re-profiled some of the sections. like It's the same ride, but you know there's some slight adjustments to either have things not wear out as quickly, or to just allow for for less stress in general.
00:25:23
Speaker
yeah That's what I'm under the impression of because they also talk about it being used on the racer. So I don't know.
00:25:35
Speaker
ah apparently. So it's a new credit now, right?
00:25:40
Speaker
Pretty close. Oh God. Don't get me into this. like
00:25:47
Speaker
That post on, uh, on our slash Disneyland still hasn't been approved yet.
00:25:54
Speaker
Too hot for our slash Disneyland lands. Apparently. Also, apparently Holiday World is getting some pre-cut track on, I think Raven? One of their wooden coasters?
00:26:09
Speaker
I had a bunch of news lined up for for anybody listening. had bunch of news lined up for this, and this is like totally off the cuff, and I love it. Holiday World pre-cut. i'm I'm curious now. It's just research the episode.
00:26:23
Speaker
Oh yeah, so the Voyage is getting pre-cut track. Voyage is, okay. Oh, wow. um Okay. Okay, no, I jumped the gun. All three of them are getting ah pre-cut track.
00:26:37
Speaker
They're going to fuck Legend up. i I can't speak for that. I know that Raven, whenever I was there last year, had like a massive pothole midway through the ride. So I'm glad it's getting some some TLC because that ride definitely definitely needed it. Oh, yeah, they have it on their Instagram. How cool.
00:26:57
Speaker
reprofiling the first drop i came across a pretty spicy rumor all right let's hear it i was looking for the canadian mind buster stuff uh completely unsubstantiated but this says somebody here is calling that raging bull is going to close in october really Mm-hmm. There's an account here. Let's see.
00:27:29
Speaker
Collapsed ready? Collapse. Collapse. Collapse already. Yeah, at collapse already. On Twitter? Yep.
00:27:41
Speaker
Retweeted by Richard Zimmerman.
00:27:46
Speaker
Is it April Fool's Day? it it It is April Fool's Day. It was tweeted on March 25th. Okay. Oh, okay. when The exact wording is, you heard it here first.
00:27:57
Speaker
The running of the Bulls ends in October 2025. And it's a picture of Raging Bull. i That just doesn't make sense, though. I mean, that i mean we know Cedar Fair likes their B&Ms, clearly. I feel like...
00:28:14
Speaker
What do they gain from removing Raging Bull exactly? I feel like that's a pretty good crowd pleaser, yeah? Yeah, not to mention, I mean, it's pretty much their... I mean, it's like their main ride.
00:28:30
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is It's almost like... In a weird way, it's almost like they're going in and like taking out all of the major tall coasters just so like parks can know like so this way like guests can no longer like compare the size of rides.
00:28:46
Speaker
Because I'm sure Six Flags and Cedar Fair can like as a conglomerate, they're probably in a PowerPoint room or They're in a room with a PowerPoint and they're like, so in 10 years, if we remove all of the hyper coasters and all of the giga coasters and all of the major thrill coasters, we can just put boomerangs back in every single park and no one will know.
00:29:08
Speaker
I mean, if you're, I just, I get that, but also I just don't see how this is a good idea. what do you I mean, it it's it goes through people super quickly, so that means they're back out on the midway and they're able to spend more money on games, food, merchandise, whatever.
00:29:29
Speaker
I mean, they're notoriously reliable. i feel like if this were but if this rumor were true, they wouldn't be installing B&Ms the past few years.
00:29:41
Speaker
I don't know. Maybe I'm missing something, but...
00:29:46
Speaker
You're asking the wrong questions, I think. What questions should I be asking? The question that needs to be asked here is how many 4D free spins can comfortably be in park?
00:30:05
Speaker
Just have... Just put one free spin right next to... Right next to X-Flight. now Then you have two... Make it like a foot taller. and or you know break the record for the world's tallest 40 free spin by half a foot.
00:30:21
Speaker
Say, no, it's new it's a new ride, guys. as We swear. It's completely different. Just build it right next to the existing Joker and call it Joker Folly Ado. Wait, so where is this where was this tweet?
00:30:36
Speaker
Is it on Reddit or anything? Could you link it too to us in Discord real quick? I will text it to you guys. Or yeah, Discord or whatever. Where the fuck?
00:30:53
Speaker
It's also possible that it is just going to be like a re-theme.
00:31:00
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i mean...
00:31:04
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I guess... Kind of like what they did with I-305 Pantheon
00:31:11
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I don't know. i'd be okay with that I'd be okay with a re-theme, but yeah, I don't think um don't think getting rid of their hypers would be would be a particularly good idea. Okay, I posted it in the roller coasters thread on our Discord.
00:31:26
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Go join that, by the way.
00:31:31
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Yes, please do. like they might be They might do the Titan thing with the like the yellow or the ah blue track and white supports and like give it a little...
00:31:42
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Maybe they'll call it Superman.
00:31:47
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The guy responded to somebody's somebody asked retirement and remove. And the guy just replied yes.
00:31:57
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Well, i yeah, I don't I don't know. i don't know. And then also real quick, this guy's profile picture is a roller coaster with the with the scythe and hammer or the scythe. Yeah.
00:32:14
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Communism with a roller coaster in the background. Yeah. What the fuck? This is a very strange. His profile says Coasters Communism Cats and Collapse.
00:32:28
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ah
00:32:34
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And who retweeted this? Richard Zimmerman. I love that account. But did he so did he retweet it today? i don't know.
00:32:45
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So that Richard Zimmerman account is a parody, by the way. i don't know if you follow it i can only provide you with so much information.
00:32:57
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you You guys should follow that Richard Zimmerman account. It's hilarious. They just post memes about stuff getting removed. It's great. Yeah, and then when things get removed, he goes, told you.
00:33:09
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It's great.
00:33:13
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He did a vote. He said, please vote. Context is not important. And then it was Steel Vengeance, Diamondback, Pantherian, and Magnum XL 200. And then once it was over, he said, the votes are in. We will be removing all four of these coasters.
00:33:30
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They probably will, too. He did another one. He said, well, here it is, folks. And the choices were El Toro. And then the other choice was, there is no other choice.
00:33:41
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Ten hours left. There's no hope. Yeah, maybe they're just trying to like systematically tear down every park to make them all like Valley Fair, Worlds of Fun, Dorney. Yeah.
00:33:57
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So that Cedar Point can just be like the regional amusement park. Yeah, makes sense. Basically make have like a yeah, like a a coaster capital of the country where they put all the good like big shit and then every other park just becomes like a small picnic kind of day trip park.
00:34:24
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On the topic of large coasters or large parks with a lot of coasters, self-proclaimed roller coaster capitals, Superman was announced to at Superman Escape from Krypton. It was announced to be closed at Magic Mountain. Figured I'd segue that in now since since that sounded like a good time.
00:34:42
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Makes me so sad. Wasn't the guy in the gift shop saying something about it being open or like reopening? He was, but I mean, he was also the guy in the gift shop.
00:34:56
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Right. You're talking about the Dippin' Dots guy, Ben. Yeah.
00:35:02
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So i pulled this from Coaster 101, but they got some quotes from their from their president, Jeff Harris. I'm just going to read these verbatim for the listeners. So ah to quote him, he said, it's just reached a point in time where we need to make a wise decision on where we really should reinvest funds that improve the guest experience the most.
00:35:25
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It just doesn't make a lot of sense from a business perspective to put it back into Superman. And then he later said, it's too early to disclose what we are going but we're going to do with the actual track, cars, queue, building structure, and everything else that comes with the attraction.
00:35:41
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That has yet to be determined, but we're working through what the potentialality could look like for the future. So it sounds like he doesn't even know what the fuck's going on. Okay, I'm just going to say this.
00:35:55
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If the roller coaster museum... uses all their land
00:36:04
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to operate Superman, I'll take down every mean thing I've ever said about them.
00:36:13
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I would love...
00:36:16
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I don't ever actually see them doing that, but there's like a very small part of me that thinks somebody is just going to give them a ton of money or six flags just gives it to them.
00:36:26
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Like here, just take it. We don't, we'll sell it to you for a dollar. Just rebuild it. And it's just going to sit in their storage warehouse. Be like, we're going to build it eventually guys. You know, it'll be open sometime.
00:36:39
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I mean, shockwave it's going into storage. Yeah, exactly. It'll be a, I mean, it would pretty, a pretty good rub scores.
00:36:50
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Oh, like those ones that at, uh,
00:36:56
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that you see it in like Gatlinburg and that sort of thing. Yeah. Except you just go up this, the maintenance stairs,
00:37:04
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you just go up the maintenance stairs and then come back down or. Yeah, like kind of like the Observation Tower. I think there's a very there's an underutilized like theme park experience of going upstairs.
00:37:18
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like I think if you can make stairs an upcharge, it's like pay $5 and walk upstairs.
00:37:26
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I think you might be on to something because like you know at Disneyland and at Magic Kingdom, they've got the The Swiss Family Robinson Treehouse.
00:37:39
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Yeah. You don't pay for it, but, you know, it's all it's it's just stairs.
00:37:48
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If you really want to be an ass, what you could do is have them walk through it for free. And then if they want to leave, they have that's when they have to pay or they have to walk all the way back.
00:38:01
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Can you imagine coaster enthusiasts climbing a bunch of stairs? Yeah. We saw him on Fury a few years back for an Ace event. It's like, I'm dying.
00:38:12
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Dude, you haven't even walked up one.
00:38:18
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That kind of reminds me of when we did that Fiesta Texas thing. And when they let us go up the stairs on Batman. er not Batman. Goliath.
00:38:30
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And there were like a couple of people that were starting to get winded on the first like 10 stairs. o And then like halfway up, and then like halfway up, people had to like stop and catch their breath.
00:38:47
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I question how a hobby, think I've mentioned this before, I'm going to mention again because it wasn't on here mentioned it. A hobby that requires so much of walking around the park has...
00:39:00
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How do I put this lightly?
00:39:03
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A lot of people who are out of shape. i ah that's my that's my only That's my only question. Because, I mean, you're walking, what, a couple miles? Anytime you're out of work? Think about it this way, Lance. The real the real hobby itself is just sitting.
00:39:21
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I mean, that is true. That is true. You sit down on a ride. and then you ride the ride. and then you sit down and eat park food.
00:39:36
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And then you sit down on another ride. I've never heard it been talked about like this, and this has genuinely changed my perspective on this entire hobby.
00:39:47
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it like you're You're saying, like oh, you're walking around, but like i mean, i don't know how many like enthusiast events you've been to, but everyone I've been to there's always one at least one really large person just sitting on a bench during ERT.
00:40:09
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it I have not been to a lot because most of them are just not opportune for me. I have seen... Never mind. I'm not going to make that joke.
00:40:21
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I'm going to save myself there.
00:40:25
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ah but Yeah, I need to go to a few. I haven't been to Coaster Mania. I've heard the Fiesta Texas event is good, but no, I have not been to a lot, so I can't ah can't speak here, aside from aside from like winter chill out and that sort of thing.
00:40:39
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So like in all the events I've been to, there's always at least one large person sitting by themselves on a bench, and then there's like several groups of friends just kind of sitting in wherever the area that has like food or drinks is.
00:40:57
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Okay.
00:41:00
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Just going back to the point of like sitting is really the bane of the hobby. Okay. Yeah. That's the lifeblood of the hobby. It's all about sitting. I get you now.
00:41:11
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There's so much opportunity for calorie burn too, though. like if you Like if you did it right, you could actually come up with like a theme park diet, even eating some of the park food because – I mean, like shit, that day at Magic Mountain, we blew 20,000 steps.
00:41:29
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And that wasn't even, i mean, we we didn't really like pace around all that much. I think we walked around the park like twice. Yeah. And I mean, like shit, I had my, I mean, my breakfast, I had that giant breakfast and like that was all burned off. And then I had that giant dinner and think I was, i was underweight.
00:41:52
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I feel like especially at larger parks, Patrick mountain, Cedar point, I can't really speak for any of the, of the parks down South, but I mean, can't think of the last time I went to park and didn't do at least, at least 4,000 steps, you know?
00:42:11
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oh yeah. 4,000 is easy. oh Yeah. i mean Unless there's muster's people that literally eat between each ride. i think i know that's a kind of a Disney thing.
00:42:23
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I feel like when people talk about, oh man, we had 30,000 steps at Disney. You probably had 2,000 active calories on top of your 2,500. 4,500 calories. How fuck are you eating...
00:42:41
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like how the fuck are are you eating Like 4,500 calories of Disney park food. It's like equally like an absurd, but also probably like not that difficult. if you Yeah, not really. Cause that's like fucking one dessert item.
00:42:59
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mr I suppose like any kind of like milkshake thing or, you know, like a, i don't know, like a funnel cake, a funnel cake with the toppings press probably pushing a thousand. Oh, it's it's far more than a thousand. I know that because i was... ah One thing I vividly remember whenever i worked in fast food was like just how much calories ice cream has in it.
00:43:24
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yeah like like Whenever I worked at Culver's, we had our our our medium concrete mixer had, i believe, 1,200 calories in it. And it was, i don't know, probably the size of a...
00:43:38
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20 ounce glass. God damn. Yeah. Another thing too, at least as far as park food goes, I've talked about this in the past on here, but there's a lot, at least at larger chains, there seems to be a lot healthier options popping up than what there used to be.
00:43:59
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i mean, you're not stuck with just chicken fingers and pizza and funnel cakes Yeah, but like I'm thinking about like some of my enthusiast friends I've had in my life, and they like they won't eat that shit.
00:44:15
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You know what I mean? There's a couple people I'm thinking of who are like, no, no, no, I'll still get the fried chicken.
00:44:24
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i mean, their choice. However, i feel like there's less excuse now. I'll put it that way. Yeah, I mean, the last three trips I've taken, I've pretty much just eaten, like, burrito bowls.
00:44:39
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ah Like, basically, yeah, like Chipotle kind of shit. um and Which isn't that unhealthy. i mean That's the face of hell.
00:44:52
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Chipotle's not too bad for you, ah aside from the sodium. I've done some... I did my own independent research into it.
Park-Goer Habits and Coaster News
00:45:01
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and aside from the sodium content, I mean, basically everything you're getting in there is...
00:45:06
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it's high in cal like in general It's high in calorie, assuming you're not getting stuff like ah you know like sour cream and guacamole. But it's filling, so it'll last you a while. So it's probably 1,200 to 1,400 calories for a decent-sized bowl. yeah But that's going to last you most of the day. Yeah, and like I think in Chipotle's case, what messes people put up are probably like the chips because the Like a bag of chips is like, I think 600. Yeah.
00:45:36
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yeah Yeah, you're right there. They got those... Easy to plow through. Yeah, chips are chips are scary, man.
00:45:47
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i don't keep them in the house unless I absolutely have to. because Well, and also people forget that like a tortilla chip is literally from a tortilla. ever make tacos at home, and you have just a stack of tortillas...
00:45:59
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right and you have like just like a stack of tortillas I mean, like tortilla chips is like you take a tortilla shell and you cut it into quarters. So like when you're eating like baskets and baskets of tortilla chips, like just think about that, a stack of tortilla shells, like just shoving them down.
00:46:18
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They become really easy to munch on, especially if you go to like Mexican restaurants and they just bring them out for free. Yeah. Oh my goodness. Yeah. I'm like, how, what else am I supposed to do with the salsa? Yeah.
00:46:31
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right I put it on my food whenever it does show up. But yes, that salsa is completely gone by the time it even gets by the time my food gets to my table.
00:46:42
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so And then they bring out more and more and more until you're done. It is nice. I'll give them that.
00:46:53
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Another thing, too, that they have at, at least at, I don't know if they're doing this at Six Flags Parks or not, but they got those grain and grill locations at Kings Dominion and Kings Island now. Those are pretty nice.
00:47:03
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um know if you guys have been to either of those yet. No, not yet. They got like grilled chicken there. They got Brussels sprouts. They got, hold on. They had a place at Cedar Point I wanted to try, and then it closed within like a year.
00:47:19
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What was it? think it was called Wild Turnip.
00:47:25
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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. i know what you're talking about. Yeah, that did close down. That sucked, too, because it was all vegan and all gluten-free, which I absolutely loved. Yeah, i'm I'm about that, but... I don't know why they why they had to get rid of that. They're like, oh, you want a vegan gluten-free option?
00:47:45
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Try French fries.
00:47:48
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You're you' never going guess what that location got turned into. Um...
00:47:56
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Johnny Rockets. I got turned into another bar. Oh, good. As if we didn't need more. Well, all I want in Cedar Fair parks is for some drunk shithead to accost me outside of a bathroom and tell me that I'm not good enough at coasters because I haven't been to Japan.
00:48:23
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If we could just get a little bit more of that at Cedar Fair Park. Absolutely. I guess while we're on the topic, more news. Top Thrill 2 is testing again. New trains have showed up, and the park released a teaser video, which, personal opinion incoming, if they have the balls to release a teaser video, I think they're pretty confident in this ride being...
00:48:48
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reopen here soon so fingers i mean they said that last year though that is true i mean last year they had a whole announcement and an opening day and a media day so i mean i'm hopeful hopefully they figured their shit out my my philosophy on it is they've had over a year i've had a little less than a year to figure out what the issue is, get it corrected, get a permanent fix for it.
00:49:18
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And if this doesn't fix it, i I don't, I don't know what they're going to do. They're like, they're like, we hired the best in the business.
00:49:29
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Well, we hired somebody in the business.
00:49:35
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Uh, I mean, not Not really a whole lot to to say aside from fingers crossed. cause that's I'd laugh if it turns out that like Tony Clark and the Zamperla crew is sitting there watching fucking Ryan the Ride mechanic being like, oh shit, that's a good idea.
00:50:02
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He has some good stuff, though. He does, but i'm so it like it wouldn't surprise me if they like watched one of his videos and he's like, and they're like oh yeah, you know what we didn't think of that ah i wonder if ah kind of that. I'd have to send him an email or something, but I wonder if I could get him on here.
00:50:23
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Do you think he'd do that? or no i don't know him there I've never met him or talked to him. you Have you guys talked to him before? He seems pretty cool. i mean I mean, I've never, i don't think I've ever seen him on another podcast, but I mean, I would just go for it.
00:50:39
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it's He seems super nice, but he also seems like um professional.
00:50:48
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He's like, he's very verbose, right? Like you ask him a question, he's probably going to talk for like 30 minutes. I'm fine with that. That makes my job a lot easier. Yeah.
00:51:00
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ah On the topic of Cedar Fair, Raptera has opened finally to overall good consensus. there is a Nobody will not talk about the bounce that it has, though. They're not saying it's rough. It's just there's a bounce to the ride as you through it. has a good video and the videos make it like and even the side videos, it's very noticeable.
00:51:27
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it is
00:51:29
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What happened to B&M, man? I don't know. And even like, and now I'm i am loving the drama and the war. And anytime someone mentions like B&M rattle, because then you got all these people who are like, you know, like I rode Kumba 10 times. i didn't feel a rattle. And like, it's not rough, like type of thing. But i for me, it's not that it's rough or painful. It's just, it's just annoying. Like, you know, B&M is i actually like,
00:51:59
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For 20 plus years, it was like these super smooth rides and now they're not. yeah So it's like, it's just annoying. It's distracting.
00:52:11
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there Especially in like the new ones where you're like, well, this is brand new. It shouldn't be happening on this. And then it's like, actually the new ones are almost worse than the old ones. Yeah. Somebody made a good point on Reddit that...
00:52:23
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They're not sure why it's an issue, but, you know, why is this one have that bounce whenever ah Thunderbird or X-Flight or Gatekeeper or you know, literally of the any of the other wings, you know, they don't have this issue.
00:52:40
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however But this one all of a sudden does for no particular reason. Have any of the parks tried ah unplugging them and plugging them back in?
00:52:56
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Or um what was the command in the first no limits where you could like make track segments straight?
00:53:06
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it like You could like highlight the bunch of nodes and then you could say, like yeah, like it was a control s or something, and then it would straighten them out. There's somebody listening to this that knows that off the top of their head, and I have no idea.
00:53:22
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um never I've tried getting the no limits, but I was... I was struggling with it. To be fair, whenever I tried, it was, I don't know, I was 14, 15. So it's been but a hot minute since I've... No of Limits 2 is confusing.
00:53:37
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No Limits 1 was pretty easy, but No Limits 2 is confusing. Yeah, like No Limits 2, which it's like, i get what they're trying to go for. They're trying to make it more of like an actual coaster building software and kind of realistic.
00:53:53
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and have all these feet you know all these like features and keep it super flexible. But I do kind of miss the old No Limits 1 building because you could build things more like Planet Coaster. It was like a good way to build things quickly if you wanted to. You could like build a track without the supports and make a one in like maybe 30 minutes or an hour. and You could kind of like take as long as you wanted, really.
00:54:17
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Yeah. So I wish they had like an old way of like if you could build things in No Limits 2 or like import track designs, maybe there's a way to do it. I know, Ben, you got Planet Coaster 2 recently, yeah?
Gaming and New Coaster Innovations
00:54:32
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Yeah, I think on my Steam, it says I've played it like 60 hours so far. ah you've had Holy shit, you had 50 hours in the past two weeks on your Steam profile. You have...
00:54:47
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Oh, is it public? Yeah, it is public. You got 45 hours on Planet Coaster 2 and then hour some hours on some other games as well. Nice. What are you thinking of it?
00:54:59
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um I mean, I definitely play it when I should be doing other things. Oh, 60 hours in fucking two weeks? You don't say, huh?
00:55:11
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Mainly between Monday through Friday, ah you know, 8 to 5. but
00:55:22
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Whenever I got an extra 5, 10 hours, I just sit there and play. It's a really good game though, to be fair. I'm glad you didn't play it at launch because at launch this game was a broken mess and it was so infuriating.
00:55:36
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The amount of bugs and issues, i mean, you had to fight to play this game and the amount of updates they've came out with since then is amazing. Yeah. And I'm actually, so the, i started playing like two days before they did the update for the, the new water slide physics.
00:55:55
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Oh yeah. Um, And I thought that was a big improvement because that was actually kind of like when I first played it, the water slide physics were kind of, kind of lame. Um, yeah, they're way it's way better now.
00:56:07
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Um, and then some of the controls are frustrating. Like I, it took me forever to figure out how to like build things in straight lines, especially paths.
00:56:17
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And then, um, like the coaster builder is pretty easy. I've never done the first one, so I don't know. Like, um, It's pretty easy to make smooth rides, which like watching all these YouTube videos of the original planet coaster. That was my one complaint about the game was it seemed like difficult to make realistic coasters, but um yeah, i don't know. It's pretty fun.
00:56:40
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Yeah. With the original planet coaster, the controls are least the keyboard controls are are relatively the same. The, My main problem with it is the they clearly tried to make it a PC game and forced pc control ah force console controls onto PC, like with the UI and that sort of thing.
00:57:00
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um But yeah, the the smooth the the smoothing tool is a billion times better now. I mean, you can... actually make smooth coasters for once. yeah And a lot of the coasters I you know i build, i feel like you know this could work in real life. i it's It's a massive improvement.
00:57:22
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all I'll put it that way. have Have you given it a try at all, Zach? No. ah My laptop sucks. I need a new one before I can play any games that are more advanced than RCT2.
00:57:36
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r she t two Fair enough. Does RCT3 work on it? It probably would. i just like i my My hard drive is nearing like being full, so I don't want to install anything.
00:57:55
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Oh, okay. Gotcha. yeah Whenever you get the chance, though, give it a try. Because if you like um RCT, you're gonna you're going to love this game. it's been It has significantly improved since launch.
00:58:09
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but let me so Let me check the store page because whenever it first came out, the the reviews were mostly negative. And as of now, they are mostly positive. So that's good to see.
00:58:23
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Yeah, I'm sure I would enjoy it
00:58:27
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ah Some other news as well, since I might as well cap off the stuff that I have sitting on this page here. Legoland in Florida and California are getting indoor coasters in 2026.
00:58:39
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Who is making them? I don't know. Let me double check.
00:58:46
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Have either of you been to a Legoland park or no? Yeah, dude. The one in San Diego or Carlsbad. is yeah It's pretty cool. I mean, like it's definitely for like kids.
00:59:02
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I'm fine with that. Legos are cool that regardless. Yeah, i mean there's there's cool Lego stuff all around the parks. um And you know a couple credits. The Dragon Coaster is fun because it's got a good dark ride section.
00:59:19
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I just remember that wild mouse being having like a ridiculous line.
00:59:27
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It did. Yeah, that's right. So on their website, they said that this record breaking attraction marks the biggest investment in Legoland Florida's history. Expect an experience that combines the creative world of Lego building with an exhilarating ride and storyline that only Legoland parks can deliver for families. So,
00:59:48
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Dark ride slash coaster? Well, it says attraction. doesn't specify a coaster. No, it says indoor roller coaster. Never mind. First of its kind roller coaster is launching at Legoland Florida in 2026. So is this thing launched? There's like no details about this.
01:00:07
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It's just one for California and one for Florida. I mean, is Vekoma doing this? No. I feel like Vicama is doing a bunch of those coasters now.
01:00:23
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I'm looking at, uh, RCDB cause they have a profile for it already. Okay. so they have the
01:00:36
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make as an art engineering.
01:00:41
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Um, yeah, they have that as the manufacturer.
01:00:48
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What exactly have they built? Family coasters, family launch coasters. I'm not super familiar with them. but Do you guys know exactly? Do you know much about them or no? cause im Yeah, not really. here Yeah, no, I don't think I've heard of them.
01:01:04
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<unk> Okay, here we go. Roller coasters built. um Okay, so they're... Alright, so they've built Snoopy's Racing Railway at Canada's Wonderland and Carowinds. A lot of these are Oh, okay. they They did Wonder Mountain's Guardian as well.
01:01:24
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i was not I was not aware that they they built that. Oh, well. It's ah it's a it's new indoor coaster. Woo-hoo. If you want to go get a new credit, go go check them out. $90 million dollars combined between the two parks, if that matters to you whatsoever.
Economic Impact on Coaster Installations
01:01:44
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That's like a it's like four B&Ms nowadays.
01:01:50
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I'm curious as to... not this is Not to make this a political discussion, discussion but with the current ah way... the market is going if that's going to affect if we're getting another like 2008 2009 sort of thing where we get where we like see like a drop off and like what's installed and the only thing we have left is just leftover stuff from prior to prior to anything happening i don't know that's going to happen or not but i've been thinking about that recently i mean kind of seems that way
01:02:28
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um I mean, I mentioned before how Great Adventure is going to be sitting with a huge section of the park empty.
01:02:40
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Yeah, and that's fucking... And that's like what was crazy about Great Adventure is like that is the northeast major park. It's like adjacent to New York City.
01:02:51
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And it's... They're taking shit out. It just... They better have something good planned. Whatever this 2020... Go ahead. Oh, I was just going to say, and they retroactively fucked up a Notorious B.I.G. lyric.
01:03:09
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Wait, what? Where? Well, because in um Kick in the Door, he says, got more rides than Great Adventure.
01:03:21
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Now that lyric is kind of fucked up, right? So...
01:03:26
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Yeah, I mean, 400 person. i'm Actually, my fear is that Six Flags will take out like major coasters out of Six Flags parks. like Because then what's next? Are they going to remove Viper, Superman, X2 out of Magic Mountain then and put in like a fucking Vekoma boomerang where X2 is? like The thing is, they might do that. like That's actually like not out of the realm of possibility.
01:03:53
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That's kind of... i was thinking about that too. Actually, just earlier today, I was thinking, how much longer do you guys think X2 has left? I feel like that thing's on borrowed time, but I don't want to admit it to myself, even though... even Can I just repeat myself?
01:04:09
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How many 4D free spins can comfortably fit in a park? Oh, yeah, they don't have one, so there you go. They're going to tear out X and replace it with Joker. Yeah.
01:04:24
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Joker and then a Vekoma boomerang for Viper. They'll say like, oh no, it's just an homage to X2, guys. No, we swear. yeah They'll call it X3. The
01:04:38
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the the thing is, they probably would.
01:04:42
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Maybe. They'll be like, California's biggest and and fastest 4D roller coaster.
01:04:52
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yeah they put it out They build it on like a five-foot-tall platform or something so they can call it the tallest.
01:05:00
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I mean, things are good. They already did that with Wonder Woman. That's that's all I had to say. Yeah. I mean, the thing with... um with Magic Mountain is like if they took out, like from a future planning business perspective, if they took out Viper and they took out you would have a sweet plot of land to put like the missing coaster, which I think is either like maybe like a B&M giga, although realistically that's not going to happen, or like a mock mega coaster or like a...
01:05:34
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I don't know, like a giant airtime kind of coaster because you got that terrain to play with. but Yeah, let's not forget that they've gone on record like the year after Tatsu opened and said they're never doing another coaster like that because of the cost.
01:05:51
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Yeah. And that's almost 20 years ago already. Yeah. Well, mean, they went bankrupt in what, 2008? 2007? Six Flags? I think that was 2009. like flight um i think there was zone nine 09. Okay.
01:06:06
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I mean, my only, my only pushback on that is if this giga dive at Fiesta, Texas goes over smoothly and brings in the people that they're looking for, I could totally see them.
01:06:21
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I could totally see them working with BNM for, for either a giga or ah dive at, uh,
01:06:30
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ah magic mountain knowing magic mountain they're probably going to do knowing six flags they're probably gonna just probably just get thrown in their dive in there i could totally see them adding like a a small a small b&m dive coaster just somewhere in the park just to add something new i mean if they do a giga dive it would probably work from like a business and gp standpoint but I'm just sick of dive coasters. Like, like, and the thing is I was thinking about this too, like fury's drop, um, is basically a giga dive.
01:07:06
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It's a pretty steep, I mean, it's, it hits, uh, Oh shit. There's slender.
01:07:15
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It was just, no it was just, it was just like unexpected. Like I just wasn't expecting a thunderstorm. Um, and my dog is freaking out. Holy shit. and Hold on.
01:07:26
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Hold on. They tore Thunder out of Carowinds. eight
01:07:33
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Well, in the meantime, I guess I'll use this as a time to plug the socials. um Go ahead and follow the the the single rider line on on Twitter and check out your favorite coaster sucks as well.
01:07:50
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Please do so. Yeah, although I would urge everybody to just leave social media. But if you insist on saying, then definitely go follow Single Rider Line and your favorite coaster sucks in that order.
01:08:05
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Yes, in that order specifically, otherwise it's not going to work. It won't let you follow, clearly.
01:08:12
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You back, Ben? Yeah. Okay. Dogs are trying to climb onto my lap.
01:08:19
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not Not fans of storms, I'm guessing. No, they hate they hate like anything with loud noises. And ah Craig has this foot bath thing, and the dogs fucking hate it for some reason.
01:08:32
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They're terrified.
01:08:36
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Terrified of the foot bath.
01:08:40
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It's like one of those ones you just yeah at ah just get at the store and fill up with is it salt water or whatever. yeah and then Yeah, that's it. It's just like your typical... footbath i don't know these dogs are stupid i haven't seen one of those i feel like i saw those a lot in whenever i was whenever i was a kid in like the the late like ah like early 2010s late ah late 2000s feel like those were everywhere feel like i saw people's homes and everything and now they're just falling off the face of the earth i mean they are they are pretty nice i did it the other day
01:09:22
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It works for like if you got dry feet. does work. Okay. I mean, I can't really speak for use of one, but if they work, then hell yeah. ah once Speaking of of ah massive roller coasters that are being installed, I don't know if I've asked you guys this or not.
01:09:37
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Any predictions for the 2026 coaster coming to Raid Adventure or no? I mean, they've been throwing out that like inverted launch mock tower thing, which looks really dumb. like what's What's funny is like i can actually see that taking like I could actually see that going in, knowing Great Adventure.
01:10:06
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but it's one of the But it's one of those things to you, like Mock's like, are you sure you want this? Like how it's your, what's your annual attendance? Uh, okay.
01:10:20
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Although I think there's, there's probably a way to make it a full circuit coaster. Oh, I'm sure. but My other question is, do you want to spend that much money on mock? I know they're expensive as hell over here. Cause they the ship it overseas, but yeah.
01:10:36
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Yeah. I don't know. Like, um, I think they should just work with Intamin, even if they built like a I don't know, like a 250 foot tall, velocity coaster kind of thing, or maybe fucking make it 300 feet. i don't know.
01:10:51
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Do like a velocity coaster launch coaster and then have like a 300 foot top hat. I feel like that'd probably be fine. i guess then you'd have to, I guess then the question is like, is it interfering with Pantheon ah Bush in the same region?
01:11:06
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don't know.
01:11:09
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Probably not. I mean, if you're... i feel like they would do enough to differentiate it. God, why is that word so hard to say?
01:11:20
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Differentiate it from from Pantheon and Busch Gardens. I mean, they...
01:11:30
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How far are those two parks away, now that I think about it? I think it's five hours. um Is anybody really driving five hours past Great Adventure to go to?
01:11:43
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Probably not. Aside from Enthusiast? I almost, yeah, I don't i don't know. It's the East Coast. like it's something Like, every hour you drive, you're passing through, like, 15 million people.
01:11:55
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But, um yeah, I don't know. so I just hope whatever they do isn't something stupid. And it's probably going to be something stupid. like It's going to be that whole Six Flags area of the super loops and the and the free spins.
01:12:12
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Although, maybe not. Maybe Cedar Fair has some common sense. Here's my spicy hot take. I was about to ask for it. Let's hear it. Nothing's going to replace it. Really? Really?
01:12:24
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Not immediately. Even after they announced... within the next five, ten years. but Well, follow-up question. What's, like, your basis for that? Because they... Remember that they announced all of the stuff that they're... They vaguely announced what they're installing over the 2026 season. What did they announce for Grid Adventure?
01:12:45
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They announced a... Here, hold on. Let me pull it up.
01:12:51
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Uh...
01:12:55
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Six flags.
01:13:01
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Yeah, wasn't there something ah basically an announced for every park? Yeah, yeah, there was a ton of stuff announced. um
01:13:12
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Where'd it go?
01:13:17
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Yeah, the they're installing a record-breaking launch coaster that opens in 2026. That's all they have said. But yeah, they announced everything for, or they announced stuff for all their parks.
01:13:33
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Okay. Let me pull up that statement. Okay.
01:13:41
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Here we go. 2026 investments. the All right. So Carowinds will introduce a record-breaking water ride. Canada's Wonderland will add a record-breaking water attraction.
01:13:55
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King's Island will introduce a new family thrill attraction, as if we needed another. ah Not Soak City will receive a water park refresh and aesthetic enhancements. Magic Mountain will debut a first Fitzkind coaster North America.
01:14:08
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Great adventure will celebrate its 50th anniversary, debuting a new kids area. ah Sorry, great America. Well, they will celebrate city at the anniversary, debuting a new kids area commemorative events and park enhancements.
01:14:19
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Great adventure will unveil a record breaking launch coaster. That is, that is all they have mentioned. And then over Texas we'll get, we'll unleash a record breaking dive coaster.
01:14:30
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Six flags, Mexico will introduce a family thrill boomerang coaster. So um a couple or just a side comment on records. So like for Great Adventure, record breaking launch coaster could be like, I don't know, longest launch track in the state of New Jersey. but Yeah, here's kind of what I'm feeling after you said that.
01:14:59
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I think they're going to get like a mock extreme spinner.
01:15:05
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I really hope, I really hope you're wrong, but I could also totally see that because like, like Ben was saying, like all you need to do is add like an extra loop and then, oh now it's the most inversions a spinning coaster in a North America.
01:15:23
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Yeah. yeah So how much was, i mean, how much are, I know mock coasters are expensive, but what is like a, um,
01:15:33
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I'm wondering what a comparison would be. so like so Copperhead was $26 million. and i know fury But for comparison, Fury was $30 million.
01:15:45
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Just for size difference. um Let me see how much Time Traveler was.
01:16:01
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Time Traveler was also... um
01:16:08
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The time traveler at the time was $26 million as well. Okay.
01:16:15
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According to the AI overview, it says adjusted for inflation, that's $32 million in 2024. Wasn't that... Is time traveler really that old now? How old is this thing?
01:16:27
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Inflation got crazy after COVID. That is true. Yeah, basically like a 30% bump.
01:16:35
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So, yeah, that's my guess. So, I mean, the thing is, is like great adventure because it is great adventure. and And if they're thinking about the lessons they've learned from King to Ka, where they don't have to dump a million, you know, million dollars a year to maintaining something huge. Like if they theoretically, let's say dumped, I don't know, 60 million into a giant mock coaster, but then they just don't have to worry about spending money on it every year.
01:17:07
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possible they do it but i could see that and if we take what i'm know if you guys have watched any of el toro ryan's videos on it recently but he said that supposedly cedar fair or six flags is gonna give them like a ton of capital for this new for this new coaster just to make up for everything that they took out yeah so if that's to be believed which you know pretty reliable source i would say um
01:17:39
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you know, it depends on... i don't know. There's just so many things that this could be.
01:17:45
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I'm excited to see what they add, and I'm praying it's not something stupid. I think that's the general consensus. My my second guess is an Intamin Hot Rail. Oh, one of their single single rails?
01:18:01
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Intamin... Because that could be... That's that's that's a... um
01:18:10
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easy to make a record as well oh yeah they got one at uh at luna park yeah yep and yeah big dipper ah at luna park i guess i always forget about jersey devil at red adventure yeah that's yeah that is true they do have jersey devil Yeah, there's two reasons i don't that wouldn't be my first guess. First is it's very similar to Jersey Devil.
01:18:38
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Second is it would be the first of its kind in North America, and they're not advertising it that way like they are for Magic Mountains attraction. Yeah, but also never put it past Six Flags, but two of the same type of ride in the same park.
01:18:54
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Correct. So, i mean, yeah, you know, could go either way. It'll go... just going to pray to Zimmerman that this is going to be a
01:19:13
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decent a decent ride and not something stupid.
01:19:18
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You know those um like in like in China or in like the one in Turkey, like the Mach Mega Looper with the lift hill?
01:19:28
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i think the one that I think there's one that has the world's largest loop. record. Also, what's that one in Australia? Like, Taiga? Is that Taiga?
01:19:41
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I thought Intamin had the record for the largest, uh, the largest loop.
01:19:48
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Oh, wait. I actually, I just figured it out. Alright. They're gonna, uh, relocate Shellraiser. To Great Adventure.
01:20:00
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Oh, that'd be so bad.
01:20:03
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Because it it's a launch coaster and it's a record breaker.
01:20:08
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I was just talking to my girlfriend about that. um Hold on. let me pull up Let me pull it up on our RCDB. That coaster has been RCDB...
01:20:22
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Has been SBNO since January of 2024 now. been... ben or
01:20:31
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I can't believe this thing's been closed for over a year. Yeah, that shit's like the worst ride I think I've ever been on. Well, just wait till 2026. It'll be a great adventure.
01:20:46
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Have you guys heard the rumors about why this is closed or no? Because it gave Ben a hernia? Yeah.
01:20:56
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So what I was told is that this thing has some and like structural issues to it. Yeah. Which I wouldn't typically believe, but considering that how Steel Curtain is going, you know I wouldn't put it past him at this point.
01:21:12
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i mean You could feel it. You could literally feel it in the ride. like The whole fucking thing just... bends and it makes sounds like you just like um i don't know if you can like when you can like hear steel like moving bending.
01:21:29
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oh yeah. good't It just has like this is like really like nasty sound. Yes, I've seen Final Destination 3.
01:21:38
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And like the sounds of the chassis as it's going through the potholes. It's just like was such a nasty ride.
01:21:48
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i feel like I kind of want to get the credit on it now just for the same reason you would go to mount Olympus, you know? It's like, man, I know this thing is not well maintained, but... Yeah, try not to plan much after you ride it.
01:22:05
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I mean, like I wasn't i wasn't like debilitated, but like it was just so bad. like It was just such a like rough... It was such a weird roughness, too. It wasn't like standard roughness. It was just like...
01:22:17
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I don't know. I can't. Do you think this was, you think this was like a maintenance issue or do you think that this was a, or like a building issue?
Ride Experiences and Comparisons
01:22:27
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um Hard to say. I think it's like part Gerstlauer and just part um like the whole semi-permanent installation because typically coasters, you know, they have those super long support columns that go into the ground. And I think,
01:22:43
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I want to say that on that coaster, there they build it like a traveling fair where it's on like a like a flat grid scaffolding that's buried under concrete, I think.
01:22:53
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Because it's going to great adventure.
01:22:58
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Yeah, now looking at it, yeah, it looks like it's on. yeah that you you would be... I would not be surprised if you're right because it totally looks like that whenever I'm looking at pictures on RCDB.
01:23:11
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like I want to say like when they built the foundation for that like um ah for the park, they basically reinforced the concrete with steel and then they attach the support columns to the reinforced concrete or something like that.
01:23:27
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it's it's amazing It's kind of like if you look at pictures of like Olympia Looping or those traveling Schwarzkopf coasters, it's like on a ah grid.
01:23:38
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I'm pretty sure I think that's what I heard about Shellraiser. So if you imagine like Doug pylons two feet above ground.
01:23:49
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I'm looking at the construction photos. So I didn't realize that this was like they built that entire section of the mall with Shellraiser at the same time.
01:24:01
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Like, Shellraiser wasn't planned to go into that gap in the ceiling. That gap in the ceiling was built for... or you know, that that gap in the ceiling wasn't there prior. That was... Shellraiser was built intentionally with that gap in the ceiling in mind.
01:24:17
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Yeah, that makes sense.
01:24:20
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This is...
01:24:22
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These photos are interesting. I feel like Gerstlauer has a pretty smooth track record aside from their RMC trains, which was debatable.
01:24:33
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They're comfier than RMC trains.
01:24:38
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Yeah, I mean... i just don't get what went wrong here. but And it sucks too because it's such a cool looking ride. Like it's...
01:24:52
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like It looks like something you'd build in No Limits 1. Or i guess I guess No Limits. like You know you can do like the white box scenery or whatever? It kind of reminds me of that.
01:25:07
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Yeah, this would be... was really excited to write it whenever first there. It was whenever was there. But... you know was ah esp o whenever i was there but Yeah, I mean, you got the inversion right out right out of the station into the launch.
01:25:24
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it's ah It's super forceful. I think the problem with it, too, is like it's super forceful. So you're experiencing like roughness plus positive Gs.
01:25:35
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So like in so like to type those types of potholes, it's like throwing your head forward, and then the positive Gs are like crushing your head. So it's like your head is getting... like push down as it's like bouncing.
01:25:49
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It's a very uncomfortable experience. yeah I'm looking at the photos of the construction now.
01:25:59
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It does not.
01:26:05
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Oh, here's a better one. Yeah, you're right. It's like it's not. It's like it's on a concrete slab prior to them.
01:26:17
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yeah there's no There's none that show like them drilling supports or anything.
01:26:25
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It wouldn't surprise me. yeah so if that's That's basically all that is then.
01:26:33
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I wouldn't be surprised either. kind of Kind of off topic, but also on topic. Speaking of rides that may or may not be getting removed and or moved... um King's Island removed their Skyflyer just like the rest of the Cedar Fair chain has been doing recently.
01:26:55
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So that makes Canada's Wonderland, Cedar Point, King's Island. i know Carowinds has one. Let me check their website, see if theirs is still there or not.
01:27:07
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This is Windseeker? No, Skyflyer. Their Skycoasters? Oh, okay. Yeah, let me see if Carowind still has theirs or not.
01:27:23
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I've never been on one of those.
01:27:27
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Breaking news, Carowind's website is down right now. Oh, shit.
01:27:33
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That's so they can quietly take Fury 325's page off.
01:27:40
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Oh, wait, hold on. You're getting to break some news here.
01:27:45
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Well, this is weird. So they, so they have like the sponsored ad, which is supposed to take you to their website and the ad just doesn't work. But if you go on and click on just like the regular website, that's not the sponsored ad.
01:27:58
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It does work. So I'm not exactly sure what they are, what's going on there, but, uh, where is your rides and experiences? Here we go.
01:28:16
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ah Thrill rides.
01:28:23
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Oh, they have a top scan now? Since does Carowinds have a top scan? Oh, I didn't even know that. Yeah, neither did That's cool. they need They need more of those rides.
01:28:35
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All right, so theirs is still there. And there's Slingshot. Slingshot and Ripcord are still at Carowinds. I wonder how much much longer those have left.
01:28:45
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This is this is great news. That one we rode
01:28:52
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at Knott's was a lot of fun.
01:28:57
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i don't know why I enjoyed that TopScan so much. I just did. Yeah, and the program on that one was better than I was... like but It's a lot better than what people like say. It's definitely not like a German fair program, but it was still pretty good.
01:29:11
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full time for i just I felt bad for the loader because it was like a one-up ride. Because remember he had that like whiteboard and he was like keeping track of everyone in the seats.
01:29:22
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Oh, yeah. yeah I remember telling us while we were there about the you said the German ones where they you know like a bunch of drunk people go and get on them and it's like a five-minute ride cycle or something crazy like that.
01:29:38
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Yeah, because all those rides are independent. So typically when the beard people start leaving the beer tents, they're also like they're not ah there're like ride ops and they're DJs.
01:29:50
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And so they do put a lot of work into like their lighting packages and their music and fog effects and stuff. So their whole point is like they try to like attract people to the ride. So yeah, they'll do like, sometimes like the minute, sometimes the cycles are like 15 minutes.
01:30:07
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I think I get sick from that. But it's not like, but the thing is like, it's not just like they hit start and they run for 15 minutes straight doing the same thing. They'll do like, they'll do like a buildup. So they'll make it go like really slow, like one way. And then they'll make it go really slow the other way. And then they'll stop it at the top and then, you know, put a strobe light up and change the music and,
01:30:29
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it's like a whole It's basically like a show. It's like a you know like a theatrical show event type of thing. And then so what they'll do is they'll like basically run the cycle long enough to try to get people on the midway to like line up for the ride.
01:30:46
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So sometimes they'll run the ride until they have like another full cycle waiting to get on it.
01:30:56
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And you're just like, this is excruciating. Let me off.
01:31:01
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Surprisingly, it's not. drunk and I'm going to hurl. I mean, surprisingly, like I didn't see anybody throw up there. Not from the rides. like Definitely people threw up, but like not from not like on the rides or anything.
01:31:13
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but
01:31:15
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You were talking about traveling fares. I found out recently that EDC has rides. I've never been, but apparently they have like carnival rides. there.
01:31:26
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I'm trying to see what what all they have. Yeah, i mean, I've always wanted to take Molly and ride a zipper at three in the morning. Yeah, I was going to say, if you've ever wanted to do ah club drugs and fucking ride a Mondial scanner or whatever, that's the place to do it. There's a page on...
01:31:55
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there' There's a page on Insomniac talking about how they rode every single ride at EDC Vegas in 2017. they've got
01:32:08
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dave They've got one called Sizzler. It's just a scrambler. They've got I believe... What is it called? These monster clones?
01:32:20
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Is that what it's called? i think that's the name of it. Hold on.
01:32:27
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i forget the manufacturer of this uh it's it's an older ride style i forget who manufactures these things they need bother me the electric daisy coaster
01:32:46
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the electric daisy coaster they have like a
01:32:53
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Yeah, an early aircraft early aircraft company manufactured these this. um it's It spins, you're in a circle, and the ride cars themselves spin while moving up and down very slowly. No,
01:33:09
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it was built by early aircraft manufacturing. It's a polyp? I don't know. I'm going leave it here. They have a clone of one of those.
01:33:23
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They got... this This is all just carnival stuff. Hey, they got a one of those tower swings. It looks like... looks like one of those Starflyer ones that they have.
01:33:39
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Imagine being gacked out of your mind going on that. I'm good. Just doing any of these rides while being on some sort of drug would but fucking suck.
01:33:53
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Like, hey, you feeling all right? I can't feel anything above my chest. I'm good. You guys were enjoying it on Accelerator, though, so I can't i can't really speak.
01:34:07
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That's kind of high. You guys were looking... You guys were looking like you were having the the greatest time of your lives on the on that ride. You did like, what, three three or four rides back to back because it was a walk-on?
01:34:20
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Oh, yeah. That was the yeah the second night. it was like walk-on. And they actually let you re-ride once, which is... like, yeah, that's fair.
01:34:31
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That was awesome. That was awesome.
01:34:36
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I'm forever going to love love that experience. I mean... It was just... Nobody was sitting in the back. Everybody was waiting for the front. And that lady was super nice. I don't think she was supposed to let us re-ride.
01:34:49
Speaker
and wonder if she got the stink eye from one of her higher-ups while we were going through the ride. We were told to you know go back around. but Well, I imagine they'd want a full train to keep a full train on that ride so it doesn't roll back.
01:35:06
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That is true. Then he again, I don't know. Like... maybe they Maybe they let you do one re-ride just to like keep it kind of full. I could see that. I mean, if you do send if you do send an empty train there... i mean, does Accelerator... I know it can roll back. Does it really have any many rollback issues?
01:35:28
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Like, is it a consistent thing every morning? Like it was with some of the Stratos, or no? I'm not sure. I know I've seen videos of it happening on you on YouTube, but... I don't really, yeah I'm not sure.
01:35:45
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Oh, here's one on Reddit from six years ago. i still I still think it's hilarious, those ah those launch videos you guys showed me where they were testing ah prior to Dragster and they had to go like, what, 120 or something on the accelerator hill?
01:36:06
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Yeah, that's insane. I can't even imagine that airtime.
01:36:12
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And what's crazy about it too, is that that launch track is shorter than dragsters and they were able to get it to up to one 20. So, I mean, I wonder if it was just like the reason they don't do that in actualities because of it's like, maybe it's like a power or maintenance thing, but it's just crazy to think that that shorter launch track of an accelerator can actually make a train go one 20.
01:36:37
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I'm curious as to like if you were to, so if the shorter track on accelerator can do that, if you were to take King to cause and just pedal to the metal full, full speed, how fast do you think you can probably get that thing to go?
01:36:52
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My guess is probably the same around as a, damn, what's it called? Formula Rosa, you know, the 149, 150 mark. Well, I was going to say, like, if Accelerator was the testing, like, it was a ride to test the thing for Dragster was King to Ka built to test Formula Rossa.
Speed Limits of Roller Coasters
01:37:13
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Rossa. I could see Like, did they launch King to Ka at 150? and Like, I kind of also feel like there's got to be, like, an exponential thing where, like, the train can only get so fast for the launch mechanism.
01:37:31
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What do you mean? Regardless of how met long the track is. Like the train, the train can only get so fast. I, maybe I've missed something here. What do you, what do you mean?
01:37:42
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There's gotta be some sort of limitation, right? Oh, I'm sure. Like, yeah, I mean, stuff's going to break if you start going and fast enough, but. That's what I'm saying. It's like, there's an exponential graph where like,
01:37:57
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You could push it harder, but it's not going to increase the speed by that much. Gotcha. Okay. Yeah, I get what you're like what you're saying now. um I think we might have already mentioned this, but speaking of Formula Rosa, it is no longer SBNO.
01:38:13
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It was SBNO for nearly a year, but it is up and going again.
01:38:22
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It was SBNO from January 22nd of 2024 to December 22nd of 2024. Thank you, Intamin, for getting your shit fixed.
01:38:36
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Yeah, hopefully... That's one of those, like, it's a coin flip if I'll ever actually get out there. it's I would love to make a trip to do those all those coasters, but also it's like, a there's like a weird...
01:38:53
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What do you call it?
01:38:56
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Principle of like, do I actually want to spend my money there? And then B, you fly out there and then you know your coasters are not running. so Especially like Falcon's Flight. like If Falcon's Flight wasn't open and you fly all the way out there, that'd be pretty pretty shitty.
01:39:17
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I think I heard so there's some new pictures of Falcon's Flight out. Let me see if there's any... if they've put any up. RCD needs to update because they just have the the old renderings and stuff.
01:39:33
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But there's some new construction photos that came out somewhat recently.
01:39:44
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Six Flags Kadia.
01:39:48
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Looking, no, there's... No, I think the last pictures that they had were the or where they were topped off. Oh, yeah, they're working on the tunnel now off the first drop.
01:40:00
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Okay. is what Is what I'm seeing.
01:40:06
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I mean, if it opens and it's consistent, that'll be pretty sweet. But...
01:40:15
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I just found a website called cupcakes and coasters and they have an article on there called Falcon's flight. Where do we go from here? That's kind of that's kind of a fair point. You guys remember that original animation they put out?
01:40:29
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just know Ridiculous.
01:40:35
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I mean, people were, and people were like talking shit about it. um You know, like, Oh, this will never happen. But I actually kind of thought it would. like From the start, I actually was like the one person.
01:40:46
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i wasn't the only one. I was saying it probably will happen just because of like now do like they have a blank check over there. They're not working with six flags. Actual six flags. Yeah. i think I think you're kind of kind of spot on there. like If there's one place that's going to do it, it's going to be the place of infinite money.
01:41:04
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doesn't end... it doesn't end Because this is the one thing that people always forget about. Like whenever like, drag you know, drag stars issues or like, I don't know, like any of these new rides have, or these prototypes have problems. It's like not so much a limitation of the manufacturer. It's a limitation of the client and how much money they have to spend.
01:41:25
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Yeah. And you know that Intamin or whoever manufactures it is not going to foot the bill whenever it's a prototype like that. I'm sure because the company knows off the gun that they're building they're building a prototype yeah or a coaster that has only had one other one built in existence or two others built in existence. There's still kinks to work out and stuff that fails. and Yeah.
01:41:50
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It's because they're just going to run it one time. that's That's my other question too. Is this thing ever going to operate? Yeah, it's built, but is it going to I mean, they've gotten this far and like just and just like we were just saying like about the money thing, like if they want to spend $2 million dollars a year on maintenance and upkeep, like they'll be able to.
01:42:13
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Yeah, but will they? That's the thing. Because I feel like they can just get the title, run it once, and then just not operate it. And it's like, well, they still got the tallest and fastest coaster.
01:42:27
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Yeah. I feel like at some point, though, with not operating it, it gets to a point where it counts, but it doesn't really in the minds of people. and Not that they care about that, because...
01:42:40
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Yeah, but I mean, never mind. I talked myself out of my own argument. I was going to argue that, you know, people are going to forget about it, but it doesn't matter. I mean, as long as you see it on some some billboard or wherever, and you know, the average person thinks about it. That's basically Well, that's the thing. It's like that's going to be on every fucking listicle about roller coasters from now until the end of time.
01:43:05
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Yeah, it's gonna make every major news network, it's gonna basically everywhere and then I mean, anytime a may major news network pops up or has a roller coaster thing, it's always like, oh, are they safe? You know, somebody died. Somebody got hurt.
01:43:22
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XYZ. So, yeah, I can foresee that being like Falcon's flight is going to have a big media day. It's go be like top thrill too, I think, but it's not going to be like surprise. It's closed. It's going like, oh,
01:43:37
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Well, that's it. Yeah. We got all the footage that we need. It's good. We're good. And then it'll be like on Facebook with like, you know, your aunt and grandma being like, oh, my God, have you seen this?
01:43:50
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Yeah. My dad sends me stuff like that sometimes. He'll send me videos of coasters like, have you rode this or have you seen this? That's exactly it. Yeah. So it'll be, it'll be one that ends up on some news outlet where it's like, oh holy shit.
01:44:06
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You know? And, and your family sends it to you and goes, have you seen this or have you
Community Humor and Anecdotes
01:44:10
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ridden this one? Or my favorite, my worst one, my, like if parent, my parents send me something and they're like, Oh, have you been on this? It's like, yeah.
01:44:19
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It's like you have to, we've both, we were on it together. Like we rode this ride. Yeah.
01:44:27
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My dad has been sending me a concerning amount of AI stuff on Facebook on facebook recently. He sent me this rollercoaster AI thing, and it's like very clearly that.
01:44:40
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And it's like the amount of stuff he's fallen for on this, it's like, oh, God.
01:44:47
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Dad, that hand has 60 fingers.
01:44:52
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he did send me a velocicoaster POV so that was appreciated but a lot of the yeah the amount of AI stuff is concerning speaking of AI in the coaster jerk there's like a random photo sin in front of Kingda Ka and it looks like the AI Mr. Six oh yeah saw that
01:45:13
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speaking of AI
01:45:17
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I was typing in Coaster Jerk, and one of the things that popped up is r slash rollercoaster porn.
01:45:27
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explore at your own risk. I'm not going to worry about it. I think I also, once I saw Coaster Boobs. That's probably... Yeah, Coaster Boobs. This is just making me think of Flash Mountain.
01:45:43
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Yeah. Yeah. And then, of course, also that video that was shot at Busch Gardens, Tampa. Yeah. Yeah. So there's there's coaster boobs and there's roller coaster roller coaster boobs.
01:45:58
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But like.
01:46:01
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And the thing is, is like normally you can tell which one is one has four thousand one has six thousand members.
01:46:08
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They're both. And my God. How is there such a large collection of boobs on roller coasters?
01:46:20
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Some of these aren't even coasters.
01:46:24
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That's why you have to go to roller coaster boobs.
01:46:29
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Put some of these on on a what's it called? um Guess on guest coaster. Yeah.
01:46:42
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What's funny, I love too, it has 4,000 members, but it only has like seven posts. Oh God, my phone. Try to go to Axe Hamster.
01:47:01
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nasty. This is just so stupid. Alright, back to rollercoaster jerk. I need to get to my safe space. Speaking of rollercoaster jerk, rollercoaster boobs.
01:47:15
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Before I rollercoaster jerk, I look at rollercoaster boobs.
01:47:24
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I found that picture of the Zimmerman photoshopped with Mr. Six.
01:47:32
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It's pretty... Yeah, i love the the vest that's only on half of his torso. Alright, there we go. Put it in... Put it in the Discord.
01:47:47
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Yeah, I'm not going to... um I'm going to stick to my safe space here on RollerCoasterJerk. you guys want boobs and roller coasters, you know where to look now.
01:47:59
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You're welcome.
01:48:02
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There's an AI picture of somebody wearing ah and a shirt that says r slash roller coaster jerk to it at a park.
01:48:15
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Somebody's taking that old um that old Superman Escape from Krypton concept and drawing it with MS Paint, a very shitty version on on there as well.
01:48:31
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Nice.
01:48:39
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This is... This is pretty wild. you want some good content on here, this is the place to do it. Six Flags is...
01:48:55
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April Fool's Day joke. I hate this because this sounds like something that an enthusiast would do. it says six flags, adult diapers, um basically so that you don't have to worry about going to the bathroom. You can just keep writing all day long.
01:49:13
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But thing is, is like at some point, unless I'm at an ERT session, which an ERT session is max two hours, like...
01:49:23
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and then like just think about like if it's on if you're on like a wooden coaster, the diaper would just could be like crushed. like That's so gross. yeah Yeah, you're just going to get diaper rash.
01:49:38
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i could so I could totally see an enthusiast doing this, though. I don't know who, i don't know anybody that would, but I could picture like the stereotypical rollercoaster enthusiast thinking like yeah gonna wear an adult diaper today because i need to get as many laps on on this coaster well i mean is that the secret of that richard rodriguez guy
01:50:05
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i don't know specifically but i do know that like given coaster enthusiasts track record with hygiene it wouldn't smell any worse yeah And be like, I'm wearing an adult diaper for the event.
01:50:21
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And it's like, well, that checks out.
01:50:25
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You smell like shit anyway.
01:50:31
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On the little advertisement thing, they have like the like the advertisement bullet points. One them says funnel cake friendly stretch.
01:50:41
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Play all day absorption. Absorption. And seriously fresh.
01:50:51
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Okay, so theme park porn has me thinking about funnel cake farts. Say it again. Sorry. Cake farts, but with funnel cake.
01:51:03
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Oh. this This kind of brings me back to the conversation me and Logan had about what food would you stick your dick into an amusement park?
01:51:13
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Yeah.
01:51:15
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A churro?
01:51:18
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I don't know, man. It was, like, way overthought. Because he was asking... Because don't I forget how the conversation got to this. But he was talking about... we were talking about poutine.
01:51:30
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And about a Costa Cussies OnlyFans. And that was a suggestion. It was, like, something you could do. It doesn't surprise me that Logan wants to fuck a poutine.
01:51:41
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01:51:45
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Shoutouts to Logan, by the way. Great guy. I'm more surprised that he said it on a podcast.
01:51:55
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We were talking about... What was another thing we mentioned? Oh, yeah. like if Like, having somebody with a really nice camera stand at the bottom of a drop ah not Drop tower.
01:52:06
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Well, yeah, like a drop tower or a dive coaster and like just taking your shoes off so your feet are out. you know if you You know, people who are into feet pictures while on a roller coaster. That's like a super niche ah super niche ah subset. But i feel like there's probably somebody out there.
01:52:27
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ah Coaster feet. It's like all B&M inverts. Yeah, there's probably so there's probably some guy out there who's been fired from multiple themes. He just kind of like hops from theme park to theme park and working on all the inverts.
01:52:44
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And he just has a bank of inverts. People get back from the station, they're like that's weird. my I thought I left my shoes on the platform.
01:52:57
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he He intentionally like likes to check restraints when people are barefoot and he you know his legs brush up against people's bare feet. They're like, sorry, don't worry about I'm trying to think of what else we mentioned. yeah stick it in a funnel cake with like a powdered sugar on top of it.
01:53:20
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Yeah.
01:53:26
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This is... we had We had some weird conversations on there. I feel like if we had all four of us on, that would be just complete chaos, but that would be... i think that would also be a lot of fun.
01:53:37
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Yeah, that'd be good episode. Coaster Cuzzy's, your favorite coaster sex, and your single ride and the single rider line all in one.
01:53:47
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I kind want to try that now. Would you guys be down to try that if we... Yeah. If we could get all if we get all three of us on Yeah, that'd be fun. Sure. feel like that'd be i like that wouldd be ah good a good
Workplace Tales from Theme Parks
01:54:01
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trio. but
01:54:05
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Alright, I need to clear my recents tab on on Reddit because now it's just r slash coaster jerk, r slash coaster boobs, r slash roller coasters, and r slash reds.
01:54:19
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ah What a mixture.
01:54:23
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That seems pretty standard for an Ohioan.
01:54:29
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R slash Cheater points out on there or Kings Island. got it Oh, you want some weird people. Go to R slash Kings Island. There's some... i ah so There's some strange people on there. I've never met any of them in person, but some of the... It's it's like a cult over there, man.
01:54:49
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it's It's really weird. ah there's ah The first topic I saw was, what rides would you get rid of? But like i was my mindset, because I was like, oh, this is King's Island. I thought I said, what rides would get you off?
01:55:05
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but
01:55:08
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um I'm like 340. Would this be a problem on rides? Would. what
01:55:17
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um What's opening day usually like? ah Busy.
01:55:24
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Somebody's posting at Rapterra. Where's the weird shit? There was some weird shit on here a while ago. There was a dude spam posting. Does anybody else miss the smell of the tunnel on Adventure Express?
01:55:40
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ah Yeah, I think I saw somebody post something similar to that.
01:55:45
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will opening day Why is there so of people asking why opening if opening day will be super busy? Of course going busy. It's opening day.
01:55:54
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Yeah, here we go. Does anybody know does anyone know the Kraken dude at the Eiffel Tower? Yeah. So I went on a very a not very busy day. I believe it was a Sunday in the fall. One of the operators at the Eiffel Tower was was crazy.
01:56:05
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He would like stop at... you he ah Sorry. He like wouldn't stop asking guests for ice cream and said his eyes hurt so bad. Then when the elevator opened, he said to the other guy, tell them about the time you fought the Kraken.
01:56:21
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Anybody know about that? Like this is such a niche thing. just... And then at the end of all that too, it's like if someone's like, yeah, I know him, then what? Like, can I have his number? Let me see what the replies are.
01:56:36
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The first reply is, I think I know that guy.
01:56:41
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That's my cousin, Jerry. Admittedly, though, most of the employees working Eiffel Tower are a bit eccentric.
01:56:50
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I have to imagine it's one of the most boring jobs. Probably. i can't even imagine being labeled by a King's Island visitor as eccentric.
01:57:06
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I mean... level of absolute fucking insanity he must display. There's some pretty... Whenever I worked there, there was some pretty interesting employees.
01:57:17
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Like, you you go to the break area, and you would just think, like... so Like, just some of the things you would see them do, or it's like, why?
01:57:28
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You know? It's very, just... Very strange. But that's Ohio, so... What else? Yeah, like when i worked at ah when I worked at Great America, every time I was in like a break area, and was always like, please don't talk to me.
01:57:46
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People just don't understand that, you know, you just want to be by yourself and and eat your food and not have a conversation. um what Correct. Not off topic, but just at a curiosity. What year did you work at? to What years did you work at Great America?
01:58:04
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I was in Rides and but This makes me feel so goddamn old. I'm sorry. in Rides in 06, and then I was a Fright Fest character in a theater tech from 2010 through 2012. 2010 through 2012.
01:58:19
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he downator Okay. So, 06. So, hey, it'll be 20 years next year since you've been a write-op. Yeah, fuck you.
01:58:29
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there You set me up for that one. It was a bit it was a bit too easy. all I'll shut up.
01:58:37
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What you, 21? 22? Yeah. Yeah, fuck you.
01:58:46
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How many years has it been since you worked at Cedar Point now, Ben? We'll just go around. 20... no, not that long. How long? 12 years? 12.
01:58:58
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12 years ago? Yeah, since 2012. Okay, so that wasn't wasn't that long ago. Yeah, twenty so like i did i did like the full season or the fulltime like full season and two thousand and ten two thousand eleven and then twenty twelve I did the just Halloween weekends.
01:59:16
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Did you live? You used to live in Wisconsin, yeah? Yeah. you were So how did you go from Wisconsin to Sandusky exactly? Is there an Amtrak that you took or what?
01:59:28
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Um, so I just, well, so I drove and just lived there. ah feel like I just moved. And then the third season I had enough friends who worked in like housing and stuff that I was able to just kind of like stay in the dorms, kind of like off record during hollow weekends.
01:59:44
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It was actually a pretty sweet setup. Cause like I was put on the, basically like put on the payroll and I had an ID, but I didn't have an official like assignment.
01:59:55
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So I basically just would like show up the ripcord whenever I wanted, work a couple hours and then go to the um to the ballroom and then get a costume and then go in one of the houses.
02:00:06
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Just because like in that during Halloween, like everything short staff. So was a pretty sweet gig. I was and then like I wouldn't work on Fridays. So just like go into the park Fridays, ride rides, stay in the dorm, work Saturday, Sunday, drive home Monday morning.
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02:00:24
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How far of a drive was that for you? Uh, I think it was six or it's like seven hours. Oh my God. So seven hours, ah two ways every weekend for a month, two months.
02:00:39
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Uh, I mean, I skipped a couple weekends. So it was really like, I think I did it a total of of like six weekends. oh Oh my God, dude. But it wasn't that, I mean, it really wasn't that bad. Like, um,
02:00:52
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I had my last class on Friday. think my class would get out at like 3. Or
02:01:00
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it was before that. no no no, no. I think that my last class on Friday was done at like 11. So I'd leave at noon and get Sandusky by like 6 or 7.
02:01:11
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it was fun. Like I really didn't. It really didn't bother me. The only thing that sucked was Monday mornings. like I was typically like still like really drunk. Not really drunk.
02:01:22
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I was not really drunk. I woke up. i was very hungover Monday mornings driving home. so That was the only thing that really sucked. Drinking and driving home from Cedar Point.
02:01:36
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no it was just like we'd go to Louie's and you know get back at like 2 and then I'd get up at like 6. Oh, God.
02:01:47
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And drive six hours. Safety first. Yep. ah sounds That sounds real safe. I was considering just for like a hollow weekends this year, maybe doing doing rides just for some extra money. Just just be fun. and Just to work one of the coasters there. say Say I did.
02:02:09
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Yeah. yeah but I mean, if I'm pretty sure though you could probably find like a part-time situation. That's kind of what I was hoping for. But yeah, I think it'll be a good time. don't I don't have a particular ride I would you know i would specifically be wanting to work, but just not something just one of the coasters and I'll be happy.
02:02:34
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You know? Yeah. All right. I know you're on some of It's either Mine ride. Hell, I'd be happy with that. It'd probably be pretty chill and not ridiculously busy.
02:02:47
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I know you're on kind of a time limit, Ben. ah Yeah, I got to start.
02:02:56
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I haven't started packing yet. so Gotcha. Well, i guess I guess in this case, I'll give you but give you a bit of extra time. i go ahead and Go ahead and shout out socials, the podcast, all that.
02:03:09
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Do what you guys want to do.
02:03:14
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um I'm on Instagram. It's Wiss underscore coaster.
02:03:22
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If you add me, it might take me a couple weeks or months to add you back. Because I don't have the app currently on my phone, but you can find me on there. so I meant more so for for your favorite coaster sucks, but if you want to do that too, you're more than welcome.
02:03:37
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Oh.
02:03:40
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ah Zach, you there? I'm here. okay. letting I'm letting Ben get his thirst trap out there.
02:03:49
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You were just really quiet there for a hot second. so and at least At least whenever I've listened to you guys, you're always the ones doing the do you' you're the one doing the socials and stuff. So I guess it's Ben's turn today.
02:04:03
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Yeah, I mean, i manage our socials, but my my big message to everybody is to get off social media.
02:04:12
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Well, if you can you can find us there because i do I do maintain our account on X where we post relevant information and a woke rollercoaster shit.
02:04:27
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Yeah.
02:04:31
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Yeah, on Instagram. and I think it's YFCS Pod or Your Favorite Coaster Sucks or... I don't know. The best one to find us, if you want to get in touch with us, go join our Discord.
02:04:44
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It's easy to find. You can get in touch with us very easily there. Yeah, it's it's a good Discord. it's so It's pretty active, too. There's a ton of people in there. I mean, there's there's always something always something going So...
02:04:57
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so i appreciate I appreciate you guys coming on. It was a good time. It's been a month since I talked to you guys last. and I apologize for the the sick break I had to take last week.
02:05:12
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but Glad you're feeling better. Yeah, me too. It physically hurt to speak for anything more than 10 minutes. And I was drinking more water than I... I mean, I would have had to take probably four or five bathroom breaks just in this two-hour recording session if I were to do it last week, just of how much water I was drinking. So I appreciate the holdover.
02:05:34
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So... But yeah, go check out ah go check out your favorite Coaster Sucks. Go join their Discord. ah Go check out the Single Rider Line on all the social medias. I'll link i'll link it all down below.
02:05:47
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If you want to join us for ah if you want to join us for a group trip this August, come get on Top Thrill 2, Siren's Curse. Go to Kings Island with us, Cedar Point.
02:05:59
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Go check that out. It is on our socials and or on my socials. I say our referring to the single writer line. um Go check that out and we'll we'll get you assimilated into into the trip.
02:06:15
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um That's really all I got. Questions, comments, anything else before we bounce on out of here? I'm good.
02:06:27
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Yeah, all good. All right. Well, it was good talking to you guys, and I appreciate you all listening. We will see you next time in the Simple Ride of Life. See you.