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Thayne Martin
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This week I am joined by Thayne Martin, a man who has overcome immense obstacles to walk the path less travelled and live a life full of gratitude!
DISCLAIMER: The views and experiences shared in this episode are for educational and inspirational purposes only and are not intended as medical, psychological, or professional mental health advice. Please consult a qualified healthcare professional for personal medical or mental health concerns.
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Introduction to Podcast and Theme
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Hello and welcome to the Outdoorsy Educator Podcast, where stories become lessons and every journey has something to teach us. Every week I sit down with people from all walks of life to hear their adventures, explore their experiences, and uncover the insights that have shaped them along the way.
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Whether it's from the outdoors, the classroom, or any other path, each conversation offers a fresh perspective on learning, growth, and what it means to truly connect with the world and the people around us.
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Before we start this episode, I want to share a disclaimer and a couple of thoughts with you. The views and experiences shared in this episode are for educational and inspirational purposes only and are not intended as medical, psychological or professional mental health advice.
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Please consult a qualified healthcare professional for personal, medical or mental health concerns.
Who is Thane Martin?
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Thane is a wonderful man who does share his experiences of a traumatic childhood, suicide attempts, removing medications from his life and other difficult topics in this episode.
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He has developed a program that I have neither tried in any way nor personally have the knowledge or ability to endorse or discredit. That being said, the underlying message of everything he talks about is peace, love and gratitude, which is why I welcomed him onto this podcast. I challenge you to listen to his message with an open mind and he is very willing to talk with anyone who would like clarification on what he says.
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When we surround ourselves with people who think, feel, do and act the same as ourselves, we stifle our opportunities for growth. However, when we open ourselves up to listening to people who are thriving in a different way of living, it allows us to contemplate our own lives in a fuller way.
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With that being said, I hope you enjoy my conversation with Thayne Martin.
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And on this week's episode of the Outdoorsy Educator podcast, we have Thane Martin with It's Pure Love. Thane, how are you today? You know what? Couldn't be better. I woke up this morning, 598th consecutive sunrise for me. I started waking up with the sun as a social media experiment. Started September 20th of 2024. And today is my 598th sunrise. I get out there every morning and watch every single sunrise and it fills my soul. It starts my day off right. I still, I feel connected to the world around me and I i will not miss a sunrise. I i love it. And i they wheeled me over to the side of the hospital where I could watch the sun come up.
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Because I was, I'm like, noh no no no, no, no, no. I don't care what you got to do. Roll my bed. I don't care if anybody sees me. i want i want I do not miss the sun. So, yeah. I love it. I'll be thinking of you on Wednesday morning as you hit 600. I think that's that's what monumental. I love it it. really is. And I have not missed one sunrise.
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I am in admiration and we are 30 seconds into this conversation and already feeling inspired. um So I've read about you. I've read you through your website, things like that. How would you describe what it is you do? Because you'll do a much better job than I will.
Thane's Journey and Insights
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Sure, so i'm I'm what you call an experiential neuroscience architect, okay? And I'm pioneering an industry that doesn't exist yet.
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And my company is creating it. And my company is called itspurelove.com. And it came from my own life experience because my life experience was difficult. Okay. I was born into a wonderful family, amazing family. But sadly, the religion that my family practiced at the time exposed me to people. And sadly, some of those people weren't good people and they hurt me.
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as a child and I should have been safe with people at church but not for me. So sadly, some really ugly mental health came from that and I don't want to focus on that because that's not who I am today. But i want I want everybody to know that if you struggle with mental health, that you can rise above it no matter how ugly it is.
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I did not believe that I could rise above the mental health challenges that I had. I was diagnosed at one time with dissociative identity disorder. I had over 10 personalities. I was diagnosed bipolar one, complex PTSD with catatonic states, and then was severe ADHD. That was my life. I knew prescription drugs. I had seven pill boxes that my that my doctors had prescribed. Seven. Seven.
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yeah how How old were you at this point? Uh, this is only like three years ago, four years ago. Right. Okay. Yeah, absolutely. And you know, I i tried to outrun my trauma. I didn't tell anybody until ah it was like midlife for me. And it was a suicide attempt because my life wasn't working. The person that I portrayed on the outside was significantly different from the person on the inside. and And that acting of always being something I wasn't is what led to a bad decision. But that bad decision was the wake up call that everybody else in my family needed to realize that there was something wrong with me.
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And I and I had to finally get help. And so I went down that road. I tried traditional therapy and un trust me, I love my therapist, love my psychologist. But I will also say that they didn't fully get me where I needed to be.
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and i was functioning i was doing better with therapy i learned some coping skills that were super helpful but at the end of the day i wanted to know what it felt like to be normal okay what is normal right right and for me when you come from trauma and ah and a childhood filled with ugliness To live a day and not be encumbered by your past and the emotions and all that other is attached to it. That's what I wanted.
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I just wanted to have one day that I could be myself unencumbered by my past and all of the therapy, all the work that I did could never make that happen. And then one day um i drowned.
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I literally drowned. I drowned in the family swimming pool. I was given some medication, shouldn't have been given. And I took it. I had a seizure while swimming.
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I was alone. I could not control my body. I could not swim. And I drowned. I literally drowned in my pool. I lost consciousness. I woke up in the bottom of the deep end, horizontal in the bottom of the water. That is where I i woke up. And I prayed.
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Like anybody else, I was an atheist at that time because I had left Christianity after being messed up by that religion. I was an atheist. So I found myself at the bottom of the pool and had to start over.
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And there's all goodness there's a whole story around how I got out and why i got out. But all I will say is that I lived that night. so that I could build this company that I'm building because I learned something. When I came back, I came back with knowledge. Now, I don't know. Again, i understand the things that I say can be difficult for some people to understand.
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And I was one of them and I was highly skeptical of an afterlife or anything like that. After being burned by religion once and believing in God, there was no way and heck I was going back to that. But so I spent that drowning was September 20th of 2024. That's the night that I died.
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And um oh no, I'm sorry, August 13th. I get the dates mixed up. Right, of course. that sort so Yeah, it was August 13th of 2023. That was the day. And so since that day, um i created a company and I learned something. I literally have learned this absolutely phenomenal way of helping people heal themselves.
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And it's it's done through unconditional love and gratitude. okay The two most strongest emotions in the world are actually the same things that can heal us.
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If we do it experientially. I think this is just it's just fascinating. I've written down a list of questions here. And so I apologize advance if I bounce around because there's so there's so much there to unpack and want to ask about. But something that I was thinking about as I was preparing for this conversation was gratitude. And i was thinking about, do do we all have, do we all define that in the same way? Or do sometimes people, in your experience, misunderstand what gratitude truly is? Yes, this was my normal response with gratitude. to Watch my eyes.
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Ready? Say the word gratitude. Gratitude. Great. Another person telling me I need to be grateful. right that is the response from me as my old self that because it was used as a weapon especially in my generation when we weren't grateful my grandmother would remind me in her loving polite way that i wasn't being grateful so i learned to hate the word gratitude because that meant that i wasn't going to get any any additional ice cream so most of my life gratitude was more about polite please and thank you that's what i would think about gratitude
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What I now know is that gratitude is actually neuroscience. It is neuroscience because it actually does two things quickly.
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It silences the amygdala, okay which is the fear, fighter flight fight or flight mechanism, our brain that executes programs that it is identified from threats in the environment.
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So we all have an amygdala and that amygdala If it's unchecked, the amygdala will play whatever story it thinks it needs
The Science of Gratitude and Mental Health
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to play to keep the human safe.
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It does not mean that it's correct. That's the problem. The amygdala will lie to the human to protect the human. And the amygdala is only playing tapes it already knows It doesn't think it just goes, oh, wait a minute. This is in the environment and normally respond with anger. Yep, serve up the anger tape. And then that's what happened. So what I learned in neuroscience is that gratitude actually clients the amygdala.
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and it strengthens and it lightens up the prefrontal cortex, which is that part of our brain that allows us to rationally think and process things. So one of the things that i learned very quickly, which is what led me down to neuroscience, was that I had a habit of what I called catastrophic instant thinking. and it came from my childhood where everything was instant failure. I can't do that. I'm not smart enough. there's there's you know It's all those self-doubt and that self-doubt is coming from your amygdala. And you have to understand that inside of every human being, we're all schizophrenic. okay Every single human being is schizophrenic and I'm gonna teach you that principle right now. And if you learn this today,
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you're going to be a step ahead of most people in the population. Okay. And it just goes like this. As human beings, we have two types of thought. We have positive thought and we have negative thought.
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Okay? Negative thought always comes from the body and the subconscious mind. Period. End the discussion every time. So understand that if it is negative, it is coming from the body and the subconscious mind and it is not necessarily true.
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Really important to understand that. Just because the mind serves it up doesn't mean it's true. And in fact, most of the time it's not true. Those are self-limiting beliefs that you've created in your mind.
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We can talk about that all day long if you want to. All right, so here's the protocol. I learned that gratitude, if I use gratitude, I can literally quiet any ugly situation and calm myself with gratitude at any moment because it truly is neuroscience. Study after study has shown what the brain actually does when we practice gratitude.
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So think about how gratitude can can diffuse an ugly situation. So let's say ah let's say you're mad at me and you're screaming at me. So yell at me right now. Tell me I'm a piece of crap, whatever. Start yelling at me. Go ahead. You're a piece of crap.
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Yeah, OK. Yeah. Yeah. So Alistair, first off, I want to acknowledge I want to acknowledge what you just said. Right. appreciate that you raised your voice, which tells me that it's important to you.
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And I want you to know that I'm listening and I see your emotional energy. And I want to thank you first. I want to thank you for sharing the energy that you have shared.
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I acknowledge that you're upset. I acknowledge that emotionally right now, you're very angry. And I want you to know that I see that anger. Okay, I appreciate that feedback that you're giving me. And I know this is important to you. So can you do me a favor though?
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Can you bring that volume down just a little bit and join me in this space where I'm at? Because I want to solve your problem, but I can't do that when you're yelling at me. All right. Very similar techniques that I used in my profession. yeah Yeah. Thank you so much for your anger. Okay. I appreciate it. I really do because I need to know how important it is to you and clearly it's important, but let's just bring it down a notch. Can we do that?
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Okay. I just use gratitude right there to diffuse an ugly situation. And what actually happened is when I practice gratitude with you, it quieted that defensive response in me, because usually if you yell at me, the amygdala grabs out and yells back. see A defensive mode. Yeah, I didn't do that because my amygdala is trained. My amygdala knows that that is not the right response. So you have to retrain the amygdala and retrain the prefrontal cortex. And when you do that, you can actually become more emotionally intelligent. And and as weird as it is, I do it through a bracelet.
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Okay, right. literally teach people how to maintain balance using a bracelet. I teach awareness with this bracelet and I teach it. There's what we call cognitive pattern interrupt sequences. And they're just simple things that we can do to interrupt the brain process.
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So for example, anytime I have a negative thought, People that I train, I teach you to use this bracelet to shake it. You shake the bracelet when you have a negative thought. When you shake your bracelet, me sending the command to shake my bracelet interrupts that negative thought automatically. The brain can't do two things at once.
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So when I start shaking my bracelet, I'm literally shutting off the amygdala and its ability to continue ah embellishing that story. OK, so I'm feeling anger and hot right now. I'm shaking my bracelet because right now, if I if I don't shake this bracelet, my amygdala is going to make me say something I regret. So now I'm holding on to that. OK. I'm feeling anger, but okay. So I use this bracelet as a cognitive pattern interrupt sequence to keep me from getting angry. Okay? I can use a cognitive pattern interrupt sequence to retrain my mind to do anything I wanna do.
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And that's what we do. So I learned through all of this that The only way that you can really change your mind is by experiencing it, experiencing it, not reading about it, because reading only means 10% retention. When we learn something as we do it, when we experience it live,
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we remember it and we remember it with vigor. So I spent the last two and a half years of my life and a quarter of a million dollars studying neuroscience and studying this crazy technique that I discovered one day when I interacted with a stranger.
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I interacted with a stranger that literally changed my life in one day because I learned something powerful. I learned that we all have the ability to generate what I call a gratitude cocktail. And what it is, it is a combination of hormones that our bodies can secrete.
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And when you understand how to manipulate the body, you can teach the body to manipulate the hormones in such a way that basically, you get that gratitude cocktail anytime, anywhere you want to. And here's the amazing thing. It's always done with strangers. Okay.
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Right. I do love that. Yeah. so Yep. Anytime I need to increase my emotional energy. I have an exercise that I will teach you. You will follow your heart.
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Your heart will take you into the world and there will be another human being and you will see them. And your heart will be like, yeah, that's the person. And then I teach you this protocol. I teach you exactly what to say to them, when to say it, and why we say it. And it's all controlled neuroscience. Every single thing that I have you do is a setup.
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because I want your body in a certain position. Why? Because if I do it just right, I'm gonna get a gratitude cocktail. And in that cocktail, I want you to imagine what this is gonna feel like. So I'm gonna get and ah a rush of what's called vasopressin.
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Vasopressin is a social bonding agent, and it also increases my blood pressure. I'm gonna get endorphins, which make me feel good, give me some energy. I'm gonna get a little burst of adrenaline, which is gonna give me some energy. But here's the killer ones. When you add oxytocin, which is love and dopamine, which is reward and increased serotonin.
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Wait a minute. That sounds like a good cocktail. Uh huh. Right. That is exactly what is present in the body when you learn how to manipulate it through an experience.
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Okay. So once you learn how to do this, you don't, you, you use it to emotionally balance your energy anytime, any place. Okay, so I've developed a course that uses 101 exercises that you will do yourself in public with your family and friends. They're all safe, but they're designed to find self-limiting beliefs, have you uncover them, and then overcome them real time while you're doing it so your body learns that I can i can do this. there's There's six levers that I'm pulling in every exercise.
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Six psychological things that I know every time.
Experiential Learning Approach
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And that's what makes us learn, right? when you When you put strong emotions with lived experience, you will remember them with vigor. And I can change your brain faster than any book. That's why you can't read the equation life and abundant happiness. You have to experience it.
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It's a it's a program. It's a course. I will never write a book because book learning is 10 percent experiential learning 90 percent. So why would I ever sell a book?
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I don't want that. I want you to experience it because if you buy that book, You might read it and you might retain 10%. I'd rather you spend the money on your life, retain it, and live like I live, abundantly happy.
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I don't have a band-aid. And you remember those things that I had at the beginning? DID, PTSD, bipolar, ADHD. I have none of those things today. none i think it's it's just fascinating because zero pill boxes my friends you've thrown them out i went from seven to zero naturally crazy so trust me the scientists and the medical community they struggle with me because they don't want to believe that this can actually be this easy because it is we've got a medical system that's too complicated and it's driven on greed and corruption and that's the truth it's all about money it's all about money and our health care system is driven around money you can see it why did i have a doctor giving me seven pill boxes seven seven yeah boxes you know how many pills that was over a hundred every day
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And that was through the medical community and my life didn't work and it was broken. I attempted suicide four times in my life. Okay. Today I'm abundantly happy. And you know why? Because I walk with light. I walk with light in my heart every day. That light is love.
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And once you put love in your heart, experientially, the way that we should be loving people, you will never show up the same again. Like I can literally take you from zero to I can't believe this is my life in less than two weeks with experiential learning.
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because it's rapid, right? Rapid, rapid, rapid. So my neuroscience company is now studying this. We're actually getting this study clinically at a university because of the power and the results that we're having with it. So I'm pioneering a new industry. It's called experiential neuroscience and it's how you change your brain through lived experiences, right? And it's super easy. Would you like an experience today?
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You know what? What I'll do is let's hold off on that just now. But okay let's talk off the air about I would love to. I'd love to talk more. Fire away. Let's go questions. I've got so many just just thoughts.
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You're going to a level that I couldn't have articulated as well as you have. But it's something that's, and this is beyond surface level. But it plays to your point. When I drive, I live in a city, but but when I drive to the store, it all I think about it often how on one corner,
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there is a pharmacy. On one corner, there's inevitably another one. And on the other two corners, there's fast food places. right And I think about the cycle of health and money and the trap. And I know that's really surface level and really simple, but it kind of alludes to what you're saying about yeah it is a machine. Yes.
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Yes. Yeah. We're just, we're part of the system. Right. So unless you shake the ground in the system and let all the madness settle, you're going to be part of it. And you're going to be, you know, I'm not saying, and please understand if you're struggling with mental health, I'm not saying go off your meds. I'm not saying that. Of course, to speak with your doctor. OK, when I went off my meds, it was a controlled way.
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You don't want to quit cold turkey. OK, that don't don't do that. You got to talk to a doctor. But what I will tell you is, is that most of the healing I mean, there are some people in the world that have to take medicines because their body physically cannot produce the hormones that it needs.
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And that was real thing. And some people do have that. But I'm more convinced and I'm going to speculate a good 80% of the people that are on meds for depression don't actually need them. What they need is is to uncover and heal the core wounds that are in their subconscious mind. So what experiential learning does is it helps your mind see those core wounds because I'm going to ask you to do things that are going to make you slightly uncomfortable.
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OK, but they're always going to be safe. That's polyvagal, right? It's polyvagal theory. mean, if the human isn't safe, they're not going to do it. So every exercise is designed in safety. The second thing I want these exercise to do is to predict a window um of uncertainty because that's when the brain starts paying attention. So then while the brain's paying attention, the brain's also gonna predict something that's gonna be average or failure.
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Because in that card and that self-in-belief, you're already saying, I can't do that. And your brain served it up. So right now I've got the memory consolidation window open. You've already said I can't do it. And now go complete the exercise. Every exercise ends in a positive emotional state.
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So when you end this exercise, you're gonna be happy and abundant. And when you finish on a pro-social emotion, something that the brain did not predict, the brain updates the story real time instantly because it it just learned it while the memory consolidation window was open and it tied the new memory to the physiological response in the body.
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You see, that's the key. You have to tie the physiological response to the body to a new memory real time. And when you do that, it overwrites the old memory.
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You see, that's how this thing works. So when you do it rapidly in succession, your brain's gonna your brain's gonna expand. That's called neuroplasticity. That's how our brains learn. So what I've learned is how to rapidly grow the neuroplastic network in your brain. And I can literally change how you think in about two weeks time using experiential lessons. There's 101 lessons. You won't get them all done in the two weeks. You're gonna have the rest of your life to work on every single cart. Right? And that's also the beauty of thing that I've created. Most transformation programs fail because there's there's no there's no way to stay what I call rooted in goodness.
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And there's no anchor that I can always rely on to up my emotional energy. That's the problem with most programs. So the cards that I give you are experiential. And because they're experiential, that means anytime I play them, that they're going to be different variables, different time, different place, different people.
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You're going to learn something different. I played these cards many times. Yesterday I played a card. So this card is called Smile Marathon. It's one of the first cards I play on people. And this is experiential learning. So I ask you to go into a public space in front of a grocery store. Okay. Busy Walmart.
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Sit there. um Lay your phone down. Put it in your pocket. And I want you to sit there for 30 minutes. And I want you to make eye contact and smile at every person that walks into that Walmart.
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That's it. That's the exercise. Go. And then you go do the exercise. Here's what I learned. I did that exercise just the other day, 30 minutes, because I do my own cards because it keeps my heart full. And I sat in front of a Walmart and in the 20 minutes that I had, okay,
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58 people walked into that Walmart and not one person saw me. I smiled and looked at every single one of them. Not one person made eye contact.
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That is how broken our society is. That's what I learned when I played that exercise, because I played that card many times over the years. That card today, you get you get blank stares because we're all walking around afraid of each other. And that's the truth.
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Our politicians have divided us. And we're all afraid. COVID screwed us up. I've never seen a world that is so lonely. And that exercise just proved that to me the other day because not one person smiled. And the this sad thing is, if somebody did see you and interact with you, they'd probably think you were crazy. Yes, or they'd look away. Yes. They think you have an agenda.
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Right. Yes. So you're going to learn in my course that we create gratitude with strangers. Okay. I find that just, yeah. We create gratitude with strangers and I do it in a very unique way that I teach you.
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Okay. And once you learn how to do it, you're going to become a gratitude junkie because that's what I am. I am a drug addict for gratitude. Because I've learned that experiential gratitude and the way that I can teach it will give me a hormone burst that will fill me full of so much love and light that I cannot have a bad day.
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And that's the truth. Like once you learn how to do this, you'll never have a bad day because you're gonna be like, oh, dude, I need a cocktail. I'm going out. And where are you going? Out into the public. You're looking for people that just need to be seen, that just need to be loved in the way that I'm going to teach you how to do it. And once you learn that, imagine walking up to a barista at Starbucks and in less than five minutes, having the most amazing, beautiful conversation that ends up with both of you in tears at a Starbucks.
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And you know why you're crying? Because you're full of joy and happiness. Yeah, the unexpected connection. Yes. yeah And that barista suddenly because my heart is full, right? When you do this experience correctly, you fill their heart with love too. They will get the cocktail. You will both cry. The first time I learned this experiment, like I said, it was and it was a miracle because a woman did something that was kind for me.
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And I thanked her in a way that I'd never thanked anybody. And when I did it, I got this phenomenal cocktail. And I loved it so much, I'm like, I need to learn this.
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And then I couldn't replicate it. I tried it. And I went through my family, friends, and I could not get the cocktail. And then I started studying neuroscience because I wanted to find out why did my body do that that one time, but it hasn't done it this other time. And then I started figuring it out. And I haven't figured out, which is also why it will be patented because I know how to control IP.
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Now, there's got to be people, when when you choose to live in ah in ah a non-traditional way or you take a slightly different path, you're going to have skeptics. You're going to have people who probably have said yeah mean things all the way to kind things but loaded with I don't believe you or something. Oh, yes, of course. I'm sure that happens. I would just love to know your, you know, just a generalized response. How do you deal with people who treat what you do negatively?
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Well, you know what, at the end of the day, I treat them with love and kindness because that's really the only way to respond. Like getting angry or defensive doesn't help anybody. So I always respect their opinions. You know, again, i think we learn every day until we die.
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That's when we quit learning. So in every conversation, even if it's negative, there's always positive that can come out of that, right? That's what I teach ultimately. The equation of life and abundant happiness is is about balance.
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it is It is about balance in the moment. And it's learning tools like my bracelet sequence protocols to help me stay present and to help me stay balanced. And and anybody can learn how to do this.
Maintaining Emotional Balance
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It starts with awareness.
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In my program, I start with awareness. I train with this bracelet. I can have you in awareness in less than 48 hours using a protocol. Seriously. Once I've got you aware, then I move to what's called a balanced thought. And balanced thought is recognizing that at any given moment, there is a positive and a negative that are present.
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But it's a choice and the mind will choose negative because it chooses safety. You have to learn using your higher voice, which is the voice of the soul, right? The negative voice is always the body.
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The positive voice is always the soul. Why? Because the soul can't say anything negative about itself. It cannot. Okay? It can't. So that's why we're all schizophrenic.
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So when I said earlier, we all have a higher voice. We do, don't we? When that body's starting up saying, no, I can't do that, I'm going to fail. Inside of every single one of us is that inside voice, that higher power that says, yes, I can.
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I absolutely can. Well, that's your soul. So separate your thoughts, negative thoughts, always subconscious mind and body and not, I would say most of the time wrong.
00:32:04
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That's the truth. Most of the time what the body serves up is incorrect. And once you understand that and that the higher voice, that of the soul can override the lower voice who's actually in charge me.
00:32:17
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I'm the observer. I run this meat suit. Okay. The meat suit is just a rental. I got it. When I came from my mama, I got it. That's where I came from. My mom and my dad, and I got a rental suit.
00:32:30
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And when I die, that suit goes back into the ground of which it came from, but my soul. continues on right when I told you earlier I drowned in the in the swimming pool I did and I know all about the afterlife and that's why I teach what I teach because I learned that everything in reality is organized by math And that is also true.
00:32:56
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I find this also fascinating. i'm I'm looking forward to digging into your website even more. I do have three questions for you as we kind of wrap this up today. yeah um Three variations of questions that i always ask my guests. And the first is everybody wants to be successful.
00:33:13
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But what that looks like is very different. And I'm curious as to kind of in a nutshell, how would you define success in your life? I would say success is the ability to remain neutral.
00:33:27
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Okay? Because the perfectly balanced human literally sits in neutral. And what I mean by that is I'm not governed by fear and I can choose to do anything I want.
00:33:39
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That is the happiest place to be in the life. is life That's why i I called my equation, the equation of life and abundant happiness. And happiness, it lies in neutral. Zero. Zero. I love it. Now, you you've mentioned about about reading, but I know there must be a book or two you've read in your life, and it could be fiction or nonfiction, that has been impactful. And I was curious what book might come to mind if I ask you to tell me about an impactful book.
00:34:05
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Man's Search for Meaning. Okay. From the Holocaust Survive for Viktor Frankl. Viktor Frankl, yes. Yes, that's an incredible book. Another one I love is ah Napoleon Hill, Think and Grow Rich.
00:34:18
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Okay, i don't know that I'm noting that one. That's probably the first self-help book in existence. And it's interesting. Napoleon Hill's work is, to even to this day, is still relevant. So I'm big fan of Napoleon Hill.
00:34:30
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Wonderful. My final question for you, and we've touched on nature a little bit, and I can tell by your background, the beautiful field with it with the sun sunrise there. If you could go for a day-long hike with anybody in the world, dead, alive, famous, somebody you know, anybody, and you get to pick their brain for a day, who would you like to go on that hike with?
00:34:51
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My wife. I love it. She was my best friend. She's been with me through a lot of crap. And no, if if I have any spare moment, it's with the love of my life, hands down. No questions about that.
00:35:05
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I love it. Well, Thane, if people want to ask you questions, want to dig a little deeper into this, where can they find you?
Conclusion and Call to Action
00:35:11
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Yes. So super easy. It's purelove.com. dacon Couldn't be easier.
00:35:16
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You can learn about my neuroscience program, how we teach. I do work on a donation basis. Okay. I don't know anybody that has a program that works on a donation, but I do. I do require skin in the game because this is shadow work and shadow work comes with some challenges, right? Like if you want to heal your old wounds, know that I'm going to heal them and there's going to be times that you don't love me.
00:35:40
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Okay, that's also true, but I'm gonna heal every wound that you have and I'm gonna do it experiment experientially and you will remember this and it will it will stick.
00:35:50
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That's the difference, right? Experience sticks. Reading, eh, not so much. Well, Thane, this has been wonderful. You've opened my eyes to a lot of new ways of thinking. And I can't thank you enough for your time. This has been an absolute pleasure.
00:36:04
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Thank you. i appreciate what you do as well. Let's get outdoors and enjoy that beautiful nature that level sets our emotion. Let's do it. Thank you, Thane. I appreciate you. Have a great day.
00:36:16
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