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A View to... Dr. No
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So it begins. We enter the world of James Bond with 1962's Dr. No. Does Sean Connery's Bond knock it out of the park from the start? Are there hard hitting one liners (spoiler: no, but the single memorable one is a doozy)? How do we rank Ursula Andress as Honey Rider, and would it be better if she actually got to talk at dinner? Is the IMDB Parental Guide an appropriate measure of what to expect in this singular film? Aren't rocks awesome? Join us in our virtual Crab Key lair as we explore Dr. No.
Transcript
Opening Banter and Generational Talk
00:00:00
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I don't know. You don't know? Well, you know what I know? What? I know what I know. Okay, I am doing this off the cuff. I have not looked this up. This is purely from like the back reaches of my mind. Okay. You may be too young to have known about this show. Taylor, you might know.
00:00:20
Speaker
Sorry, I just have to pick at Taylor Robin the Cradle. Just kidding. I have older siblings, you guys. I have older siblings. i You know, I'm one of those people that like considers themselves Gen X by proxy because all my sisters are older than me.
00:00:35
Speaker
yeah So there was, once upon a time, in the heyday of the... why is this turned into a child's animated i know exactly what you're about to talk about i love this okay okay so i have not looked up the theme song to this i'm gonna like do my best approximation and then i want you to like see that check afterwards how accurate it is and how i off the top my head i know what the theme song sounds
Theme Song Ideas and Copyright Concerns
00:01:03
Speaker
like i'll tell you immediately So it starts out with like a fake Bond riff. It's... James Bond! James Bond Jr. Yes.
00:01:14
Speaker
um sp james ba j but blah bla yes Okay, so that should be our opening theme. but Oh my gosh.
00:01:24
Speaker
that Specifically you doing that? Yes, specifically Christian doing that. No, no, no. I'd have to warm up. Okay, i i've i've I've had a really... I've had it not a great day, so like my voice is not like in peak shape. But if you want me to...
00:01:38
Speaker
I could try to do a hack together in Audacity. no one's ever going to care about this podcast, so just let it fly, dude. I care.
00:01:48
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But here's the thing. I do want Taylor to do the... Oh, wow. That was wow Well, the thing we got to really consider is whether or not that'll get us a copyright strike.
00:02:01
Speaker
Oh, that's true. What percentage think we just did? Oh, no. I accidentally marked a clip instead of muted my mic. Oopsie poopsie. Oopsie poopsie. no Well, i I would love to do like ah screwed and chopped. That's an actual like musical term version of it where it's like different enough and derivative enough. Swirly.
00:02:22
Speaker
sounds like the music is having a stroke that it won't matter but i'll play with it this week and see all right cool hello everybody welcome to a view to a podcast
00:02:41
Speaker
hey everybody, welcome to our podcast that ah we decided to name from our own brains and with no help from outside sources, a view to a podcast.
Introduction of Hosts and Podcast Premise
00:02:49
Speaker
My name is Taylor McCary. This is me.
00:02:56
Speaker
ah I'm Kat McCary. Also me. And I am just a stupid policeman. but ah That's Christian, and Christian is he.
00:03:08
Speaker
We are in the middle, in the beginnings, the process of watching all the James Bond movies and ranking them for your listening delight, and it is delightful, and we will hear no such nonsense any other way.
00:03:19
Speaker
Today is kind of a big one because it's our first actual Bond movie. We did the intro, and this time we have a Bond movie to discuss, to pick apart, and the name of that Bond movie is Dr. Knows.
00:03:34
Speaker
du du yeah box The funny thing is, is Dr. No doesn't have an intro. It it is like we're going to get there. I disagree with that. It's it's Saul. They want to be Saul Bass. That's what they want. they That's what the intro Was it not Saul Bass? I wanted to look it up. It wasn't. It's not good enough. It might to be Saul Bass. ah All right. Saul and Elaine Bass. they did that They did that as a couple. And I love that.
00:03:59
Speaker
Yes. Yeah. So Kat wanted to talk about this real quick. Kat, please give us information to contextualize. Okay. Well, first I want to make something very clear.
00:04:10
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This is a hot take podcast.
Discussion of 'Dr. No' and Its Historical Context
00:04:13
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ah We are not going to be doing research, really. It's just from the gut feelings going on here.
00:04:21
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So you can complain. but we don't care. We're not going to do much research. This is our research. Yes, the movie.
00:04:33
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We're going straight to the source like God intended. Whatever is in the lining notes, that's all we do. Actually, I don't think any of our DB came with liner notes, did they?
00:04:44
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There were terrible extras, though. They were too bad The extras were kind of cool. They actually showed where the things were shot. Anyway, that's not the point. You had something else that you wanted to... Okay, here's my something else. I figured I would just start with a basic read of the background from IMDB.
00:05:00
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So... This is the first James Bond. ah The credited writers are Richard Maybaum, Joanna Harwood, and Berkley Mather. A I know, right?
00:05:13
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She wrote all of theyling the female ogling shots. As she should. Jamesy Millat.
00:05:25
Speaker
I should have something for that, but I don't. i I was saying it's directed by Terrence Young and was released on October 10th, 1960. Schmiggedy-daboo. No, 1962. 1962. So, hey, Kennedy was still alive.
00:05:44
Speaker
That's a really weird touch point. Just saying. The first place her brain went was Kennedy. Of course, Kennedy saw the first Bond movie. that's kind of weird. probably Kennedy might have been Bond fan. I'm sure.
00:05:55
Speaker
I bet it's screaming Camelot. am a lot like the way he bangs a lot of women. It speaks to my heart. I don't know if it was in after this film came out, but either after From Russia With Love or Goldfinger, it actually got a an official, like...
00:06:11
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Vatican sanctioned or just like, like, this is a horrible, like, I I'm trying to remember the exact quote. ok Oh, okay. I thought like a Vatican thumbs up. and i think she like either thattic again I don't remember the precise word. Anyway, I said something. It's like a, a vulgar this or ah display of a vile display of vulgarity, sadism and sex or something like something to that. It's the best.
00:06:36
Speaker
Okay, that actually leads me to one thing I would love to do is i would love to read off the parental guide if I can find it.
00:06:48
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All of the... vidangel guide. What would be censored if we had that? Now, where are you, parental Okay, great. The parent's guide.
00:07:01
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The parent's guide. For content, sex and nudity, but it's mild. Oh. All right. ah Violence and gore, also mild.
00:07:16
Speaker
Profanity, mild. Yes. Alcohol, mild. what frightening and intense scenes mild so according to the parents this is like it's it it's mild toast i am shocked to hear that because there's you can see honey rider's boobs in this movie i thought it was a uh like a skin it's obscure Yeah, it's obscured. She's wearing a white shirt while taking a of a shower bath in a pool of water.
00:07:49
Speaker
That is full on side boob. Spoo. Oh, I thought you meant during the nuclear decamination. Yeah, that one was where I was like, oh there's ah there's a suit.
00:08:01
Speaker
Yeah, I was talking about when she's in the in the beach. So this is what we're getting ourselves into. A mild movie where nothing happens apparently. mild display. um mild display of debauchery. A mild display of debauchery.
00:08:16
Speaker
Maybe we'll think about having a drink later. I thought I smacked some shenshin to you. It's absolutely right. you seeing you seen that Have you seen that interview with it was where he talks about smacking people?
00:08:28
Speaker
Yeah. Well, yeah, it's it's like a follow up with ah Barbara Walters. Yeah. Where he doubles down on it. It's absolutely right. I haven't changed my position.
00:08:43
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There's something to be said for consistency, I guess. I like during the Sean Connery, during Sean Connery, we really should just have some kind of, you know, throw a coin in the schmackin' jar every time we mention it.
00:08:55
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i I feel like I need to say as explicitly as possible, none of us believe that hitting women is a good idea. Yes. Just so we're very clear. Don't hit women. Yeah. Great. That's why we're collecting money so that we can donate. Isn't Lazenby the worst, though, with slapping women? Yeah.
00:09:11
Speaker
<unk> We'll get to that one. Okay. We've got a few episodes to go for that. I haven't watched it. and like I said, I haven't watched that one recently, so it's my memory. Yes, yes. So we have our a quick rundown of our voting criteria.
Pacing and Action of 'Dr. No'
00:09:23
Speaker
We've got the vibe. We've got the action, the one-liners, the villain, the muscle, which is the villain's henchman, the theme song, the opening credits, the Bond performance itself, the visual language, and the Bond girl, culminating in a potential score out of 10, provided we all use real numbers as opposed to non-real numbers.
00:09:41
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So, the vibe. Does this movie pass the vibe check? Kat, what you got? Hell yeah. ah yeah Yes.
00:09:53
Speaker
Passes the vibe check. I rated it a strong 7. You know, it's not one I want to sink into over and over. I'm not going to watch this every night, but it's a solid intro. It hits all the pieces of what I think a Bond movie should be. And it gets at that essence of Bond, which is he loves danger and he's a cad and he's like a mis he's a mischievous little lad. He's a violent degenerate. A mischievous lad.
00:10:28
Speaker
Who just likes punching people. So solid seven. Okay. You know, going to have to agree with my wife on this one. I also gave it a solid seven. However, my reasoning is such, I thought the pacing was kind of slow. It was a little glacial at points where I was like, okay, now we're setting something up. I'm waiting for the setup.
00:10:48
Speaker
And we're still setting up the thing that clearly is going be it's set up. Okay. Set up. Great. Okay. set Oh, action delivery setup. Back to the setup we go. I thought that there was a bit more ah ah tepidness than I would prefer in a Bond movie if I had a choice. However, I will say that when the moments of action hit, they were effective, which is how come it's above the five for me. A solid seven. A great movie with great feelings, but I'm not jonesing for it really ever.
00:11:18
Speaker
I'll take it to show that though. Once again, I just want to point out like as an introduction, as the explosion of Bond on the screen, He does explode on the screen a couple times, doesn't he? I'd say more than a couple. I counted at least three.
00:11:34
Speaker
We'll get there in a bit.
00:11:37
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Well, you better make it three of a kind because I also gave it a seven. Did you really? Yes, did. I was pleasantly surprised by this one because I knew that it was the first film and usually counting the reboots of anything,
00:11:53
Speaker
or of of anything It's either a grand slam or it's like kind of a, oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. um One of the things that I found kind of difficult, and maybe Kat, you can speak to this as a media critic, like and one who's actually a media critic. An actual critic. Brush my shoulders, huh?
00:12:13
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There's this, I don't remember what it's called now, but there's this sort of a critical theory where you analyzing something outside of its...
00:12:25
Speaker
like temporal window can be unfair or like misleading. And so judging historical events, actions of people, whether it's like within limping memory, within the last 200 years, et cetera, like judging that outside of its timeframe gets fuzzy. And I think that part of the pacing thing is that that's fair. This was the early sixties. Okay. When it was the last time you watched 2001 a space odyssey? Because I fall asleep every time I watch that. And yes, I know what it's going for. It's going for a very real, like that was Kubrick's thing. That's why he hired, um, uh, O'Bannon to do like all of his, like to do the set. Actually, uh, Klaus Adam, who did some amazing sets later on in the series was originally going to do it. And he just decided to do other things. Cause he, he,
00:13:17
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was clipped from his vision. Anyway, I'm getting way off topic with this. Prepare for that a lot. But I think that I totally agree with what you've been saying. Like, it's a great, solid start.
00:13:28
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It's It sets the tone for James Bond. Like I took, I did that line, the stupid policeman line, but I was just so, I was pleasantly surprised by how much actual did like detective work he does as he goes along. It's, I don't remember this much.
00:13:47
Speaker
I just, my perception again, just because of time, like, I feel like all of the intelligence is done for him and everything is just like experiential. It's like, okay, it's happening in the moment where in this film, he's taking things apart as he he goes to the scene, he goes to the, to the first scene of the the first murder rather.
00:14:06
Speaker
And he's picking apart everything. He's looking at books. He finds the letter. He's looking at like the surroundings of the table. he's He's just looking at everything and trying to get a good handle of the situation. I think for the most part, for like 90% of this, he is in charge. Like he has the upper hand and eke I think up until he gets captured, I think he gets a little arrogant when he goes to the, to Kravke. But anyway. um Yeah. So solid seven though. My question for you is you brought up the idea of the anachronistic
Analyzing 'Dr. No' by Its Time and Style
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judgment. Yes.
00:14:41
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Is what is the question, whether or not we is it fair to judge him anachronistically? Is that kind of. Well, whether no, that's that's kind of a big like academic question. I'm just i'm just saying, like for for me personally, like I'm examining... You mentioned pacing. I totally get that. like If I was judging that, even against a mid-late 60s film, yes, it kind of drags, but going into this like an early 60s film, it's you know this is pre-French Connection. This is pre a lot of...
00:15:14
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Yeah. so I think in that it just helps bring context, but I don't think that we would need to like formally analyze it that way or adhere to any sort of a school of thought. Yeah.
00:15:25
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Anyway, I think we talked about this a little bit in the intro episode of whether we're judging based on Bond as a whole or just each individual film. And I think that goes along with it is we we're kind of just judging on the moment that it came out.
00:15:43
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The moment it came out or the moment we saw it. Because I feel like I'm not judging it based on what I thought was cool 1962. I'm judging it based on what I think is cool now. The timelessness of Bond, I think, is a question. we're judging it based on itself as a movie.
00:15:54
Speaker
Yeah, that's true. Today. Like, yeah visual effects. Like, would you judge visual effects then versus what was contemporaneously possible or I think if it takes me out, like I'm not going I don't think that it's fair to say like, well, would be better. I think it's more fleshed out. Was were the effects effectively used in a way that like adds to the story?
00:16:15
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the rear The rear projection in this was awful. the the first the four But there some cool things. Yes. So solid sevens. Moving on to action.
00:16:26
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Is this an action sandwich or is this an action dud? I feel like I'm the outlier here, so I'm going to go first. I gave it an eight because was... eight?
00:16:38
Speaker
I give it an eight. And it's partially based. Some of the visual stuff we were just talking about, like I find that spider scene so intense. And yes, looking back, I can now see the glass pressed against his arm. Thank you, Taylor. You're welcome.
00:16:53
Speaker
But in the moment, i thought, oh. i i can I can vouch. When we were watching, the cat actually like curled up and was like, but I didn't notice that.
00:17:03
Speaker
There's like glass separating him from the spider. Yeah. If you watch it again, right, pushed against his shoulder, you can see that there's like a piece of glass flattening his shoulder while the spider crawls up. Maybe my DVD just sucks.
00:17:15
Speaker
No, no, no. If you don't know it's there, it's hard to notice. But once you know it's there, you can totally see it. Yeah. So I did not know it the first time. But then afterwards, Taylor, you know, tailored all over the place. and as as I do.
00:17:30
Speaker
But no, I found that really tense. The car chase scene with the cyanide tablet I thought was great. ah But the pipe scene on Crab Key where he's crawling through the pipes after being captured.
00:17:45
Speaker
My heart was in my throat. I was so tense during that time because I just expected something to steam out. But I think it had that action tension that I loved. i was in it.
00:18:01
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I was in the action. All right. Convince me why I'm wrong. Shall I go or do you want to go, Christian? Go for it, Taylor. right. I gave it a five. And the only reason I gave it a five is because it really looks like Sean Connery is beating fools up for realsies. Like he is throwing fools around. I think I mentioned it last time. Someone throws a punch. He physically throws them over his head. Sean Connery was a weightlifter and took part in body. Like he might have been a Mr. Olympus. That might not be actually true, but I feel like a weightlifting. Did participate Highland Games? Like wasn't he like a caper thrower?
00:18:32
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He was a big man. And then, yeah. And so like Sean Connery was not messing around. And so that added a ah level of realism that is really hard to fake. I mean, especially you get into the later ones, old man, Roger Moore, we like punch you in the face. But like, clearly he's not actually doing it. And this goes back to again, why i love Sean Connery. I really feel like he could mess you up if you got into a fist fight and that comes across in all of the action scenes. And so outside of that though, they're like, yeah, they were,
00:19:02
Speaker
They didn't feel dangerous to be in, right? Maybe it's because he was so adept at handling them, but i never felt like he was actually in danger because he was just so in control. There was no risk. I will say the pipe.
00:19:15
Speaker
I'll give you the pipe. He had to rip up clothing for his hands. It was scary. Yeah, okay. I stick with my five. It was straight middle of the road as far as action goes for me. Okay.
00:19:27
Speaker
i I got the same ranking as you, Taylor. This is a solid five. And I think that that is. But I think it's just halves and halves. It's like I don't think it's just average five. I think that there are really good actions. Like I, like you said, Taylor, like the his physicality is just amazing. like Yes.
00:19:49
Speaker
him flipping people like, like the, the first scene, no, just that, not the first scene, that car chase scene from the airport where the guy's trying to shiv him. And he just like, he's like, nope, it's not happening, pal.
00:20:02
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it's And he does. And he, and he does like do a great job of being that calm and collected. I think, budget constraints were a thing and that the car chase had to be mostly rear projection.
00:20:14
Speaker
yeah Um, unfortunately, but I enjoyed the aspect of it. I, as far as like action is concerned and and this kind of crosses over with a few of our other, uh, categories, but he, there's always like this, it,
00:20:30
Speaker
I'll also never mind. I'll save that for the next one. Okay. For the the quality of the villain. um But I do like the action set pieces for the most part. um Interesting. Like I never, I completely forgot that there are like timed musical stings with the spider and smashing.
00:20:47
Speaker
I'm like, turned good on you. don do don just Good on you, John Barry. yeah By the way, yeah John Barry scores are. always impressive oh the music in this movie if you ever want to hear a bad john berry score watch walt disney's the black hole oh spicy take it's uh no there are there are elements that i like but i think like john berry was like phoning it in compared to his other work i like the score i love the black hole by the way if we ever do like a b movie version of this i'll talk about that to the end of the days but yeah
00:21:26
Speaker
All right. So we got ah an eight, a five and a five coming up next. i have one liners next. Do I have the order wrong? i have one liners. Christian, you go first this time.
00:21:36
Speaker
All right. I gave it a five. There were, there was, I, the, they were on their way to a funeral. like I like that.
Villain Analysis: Dr. No's Menace
00:21:44
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was like, okay, it's not over the top. It's not like Schwarzenegger silly.
00:21:49
Speaker
Um, but I like it. I think, That was the only one that I can remember. And I didn't watch. I watched this movie not that long ago, but that's the only one that really comes to mind. m um the The Sting, the Smith and Wesson, like just bashing, bashing an American gunsmith. It's a bold move. Of course. ti Well, it's a great British sensibility.
00:22:14
Speaker
I have to agree with you. i gave it less than five. I gave it a three. And I gave it three because that's the only one I remember. And like I was listening for them. I was so excited. And I get he got the one and I was like, oh, that's that's a solid, a solid one liner. They were on their way to a funeral. What a great like I love the idea of like I just watch people explode in a car wreck. What happened?
00:22:38
Speaker
ah I'll make a joke about this death. Fantastic. ah But that's really the only one that I remember. it it's the only one that really stuck out to me. And so I gave it a three.
00:22:48
Speaker
Yeah, I gave it a three and I didn't even remember the funeral line. I get a three just for his snort at Honey Rider's name. She says her name in just that little...
00:23:00
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um But yeah, I said it's not polished yet. It's not there. right. So we're we're on to the villain. Now, Christian, you were excited to talk about the villain. Please bring us into the depths of despair.
00:23:12
Speaker
This is a hard one for me because... there are so many elements of Dr. No that is, that are genuinely intimidating. Like the first scene where the doctor comes, like, you know, he's there without like outside of orders. He's jeopardizing a lot of things by coming there. And he's, it just goes into the room. it's an automatic door. He goes in it's just like, sit down. Like, it's not, it's not like Darth Vader. It's just like, it's the prototype. I mean, that would later, I guess, become adapted into number one, the
00:23:45
Speaker
blowfe Oh, yes. Yes. But it but it was just and while it has been better executed in films in the 20th or they the 20th in like the late 20th, early 21st century cinema, the intimidation factor is really well done.
00:24:02
Speaker
Yeah. his henchmen are are afraid of him they you know they will do anything to like not divulge it's not there's no squeezing information out of any of them that speaks a lot and he's very much in control like i was just like waiting i'm like he's like at the dinner scene he's just like bond is just trying to provoke him and then finally he's just like you insist on provoking me it's not gonna work And then, you know, he finally gives him his, you know, his ultimatum. He's like, I thought you might be able to join us. You know, he he didn't look at at Bond as like some pest initially.
00:24:38
Speaker
i mean, he did actually, you know, he did. He did look at him as a pest, but he's like... there's something about this guy. Maybe I can convince him, bring him over. It doesn't work. He saw the value. Yeah. And then he's just, he, then he realizes it's futile. He, he sees that he's brainwashed by West. You are nothing but a stupid policeman.
00:24:57
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And, and, you know, when and he just casually like, you know, he just casually gets up like his, and his treatment of people is very imposing. It's not mustache twirling. It's like,
00:25:11
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okay, I don't want to mess with this guy. He's and like, he's, he doesn't go out of his way to be intimidating yet. The way that people act inform his intimidation. Yes.
00:25:23
Speaker
So what, what was your scoring? You gave this, I gave Dr. Noah five. Unfortunately, i would have placed him higher. I think what what kind of like dropped the average down was the the end fight was just dumb.
00:25:37
Speaker
What fight? Exactly. And that was letdown. What an awful end. What an awful end. What a terrible way to die in that water.
00:25:49
Speaker
But you're right. It was not cinematic. The action set pieces get better and better and like the finales get better and better. but Yeah. Yeah. And then they vacillate. Okay. Yeah. Kat, you liked this one.
00:26:02
Speaker
i did. i i mean, I'm going to be perfectly honest. I did just knock it down a half point. I originally rated it a 7.5. I'm going back. That was way too high.
00:26:14
Speaker
Going with a strict 7 here. Because everything before he reveals his face is the blueprint of intimidation. it's So fantastic. I'm going to talk about the scene with the scientists later.
00:26:31
Speaker
but I feel like, like you said, the intonation of the voice is so chilling and it's so calm and it stakes you to the heart. Him coming into Bond's room while he's sleeping and we just see the What is that about?
00:26:48
Speaker
I don't know, but it was bone chilling. I loved it. I thought this is the kind of creepy... This.
00:27:00
Speaker
but I'm a writer. It's amazing. No, it's the kind of tension and buildup that is so delicious. And once his face was revealed, it it was fine. It's felt the yellow face is not great in this movie.
00:27:16
Speaker
No. Dr. No gets like... a per half fraction of a percent pass because his character is biracial. That's true. They do actually say specifically he's not full-blooded Chinese.
00:27:30
Speaker
Yeah. But still. But find someone who's biracial. Today we would find someone who's yeah biracial to play the part. Different time. um I gave it seven and a half. I'm surprised I have the highest ranking here. And I gave him a seven and a half because I thought solid menace. Like very intimidating, scary presence. And then he pulls out his little like, and I've got metal hands. Boop-a-doop-a-doop-a-doop. I'm like, oh, come on, dude. Really?
00:27:56
Speaker
Look at me crush this clearly fake cup by going like this. Ooh. and come on, dude. it's such an important plot point at the end. He can't on. Because he can't pull himself up, which is the stupidest, like, oh my goodness, my slippery hands are slippery. i cannot help myself. All of his menace is gone. Picturing him as a turtle on his back,
00:28:17
Speaker
A true villain can be on his back and not be afraid. Come on. I mean, your villain has to have a weakness, but that was a weak sauce weakness. That was that was a ah bit too far. would have been cooler if he had tried to punch Bond and he hit a piece of electricity and it killed him that way. That would have been amazing. Oh, yeah.
Critiquing Dr. No's Henchmen
00:28:36
Speaker
That metal hand looked great in the bed scene, though. What was up with that scene? It was just a precursor to whatever Javier Bardem is doing later on.
00:28:48
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ah There we go. See, it's a callback. That's what Javier Bard. No, this is, ah what's the word? Foreshadowing. for Very, very, very foreshadowing. Bond just brings out everything and everyone.
00:29:00
Speaker
Yes, he does. So we've got the villain set. We have the muscle now. And I got to say, I hated the muscle in this movie. There was nobody. What muscle in this movie? The only one that stood out is Dr. Rocks are cool. And he sucked.
00:29:14
Speaker
Dr. Ernest P. Worrell? I know. you know what learned? Like, what a non-scary, like completely inept, boneheaded moron, stupid dumb face.
00:29:26
Speaker
I will say, if we're just talking as muscle I give it a two out of ten, two. But I also looked at Muscle as henchmen, so I counted the secretary, Miss Tarot, as one.
00:29:39
Speaker
But that entire subplot made me very uncomfortable, and I hated it quite a bit. for For Verity's sake, you're talking about the quote-unquote Chinese lady who's trying to get Bond killed, who's very clearly nowhere near Chinese.
00:29:56
Speaker
Which is weird because they have actual people of some Asian descent in the film. Like, it's just like, did she have too many lines to give that to? But you Chinese women can't be beautiful?
00:30:07
Speaker
i was going to quote from You Only Live Twice, the one that I remember, but i and we're not there yet. We'll get there. Oh, no. We'll get there. What do you got?
00:30:20
Speaker
I also gave it a two. Like it's, and yeah, it's just unfortunate because that was really it. They were just inept, scared agents. Like, cause the henchman needs to be like blind obedience.
00:30:36
Speaker
That's like, in in in further installments like you get those well i guess except for moonraker but we'll get there but yeah they have to they have to have some sort of like un incorruptibility whereas like poor mango tree lady sorry i don't remember her her character's name equally racist Yes, this Miss Tarot was like seduced into like not fully executing her plan and gets captured. Whereas like, i I'm sorry, this is like...
00:31:13
Speaker
retroactively like looking back at the qualities of a good henchman. I'm thinking of like all of the, all of the roles that like Pat Roach plays in the Indiana Jones films.
00:31:23
Speaker
m Like that's muscle. And yeah there are, there are elements of, the there are, you know, characters like that in the future films, but yeah, it's just, yep. Ineptitude and scared and well, yeah not inept.
00:31:38
Speaker
They are no match for, but for Mr. Bond. Yeah, and as such would be terrible henchmen for Dr. No, who is pure menace. Like, he would be like, I need someone to execute my will. You, milquetoast boy, come forth.
00:31:51
Speaker
It's like the soldiers that were, like, guarding things and, like, that took poor Honey Rider away. Like, they're more intimidating than... Look at these cool rocks I got, Vern.
00:32:02
Speaker
They got isotopes. This was an agate. Oh, agate. Agate. Okay, so coming up next, how do we rank the theme song? And this is ah a hot topic one because is this actually a theme song?
00:32:19
Speaker
Mango Tree? who Well, but here is Taylor's take, right? Okay. I think that the introduction of the Bond theme, because it plays out in full, is the theme song from the movie. And then they tacked on very, very awkwardly that mango song.
00:32:34
Speaker
Like the whole opening credits, and historically speaking for Bond movies, that's how they introduced the theme song is the opening credits. So how much of that opening credits is taken up by the the actual 007 theme is basically the entirety of it.
00:32:49
Speaker
And then they have a a one third tacked on to the end of it. And that's the underneath the mango. Well, they don't even do underneath mango trees. Like this weird. No, it's three point mice. It's like a Jamaican style. Like, I don't know if that's racist or not. No, I mean, it's a style. I think that like what it does is it sets up what happens next in the movie action wise, which is oh not what they do in the future. It's it's a it's an interesting choice. I don't think it lands particularly well. I gave it a six and a half out of 10 because if for no other reason, it the full introduction of the actual James Bond thing that is so woven into our DNA came from that moment.
00:33:23
Speaker
I will say if we're judging it as the introduction as the James Bond theme song, as we know it, like nine, because that is a perfect song. It's iconic. Everyone can hum it.
00:33:35
Speaker
It's perfect. It's under the mango tree. Negative 17. That's fair. I gave it a three because it threw me off because I was expecting the instant like you know guitar riff intro from go and then and I'm just like because I told you I watched this first from like a VHS rip and I'm like oh did they like cut it out of like the broadcast because they didn't have the rights on ITV oo um but it's just so weird to hear it just be kind of these like little bloops and then finally it like goes into the song and I'm like well I guess they were trying maybe I'll bump it up to a five
00:34:20
Speaker
But yeah, I was expecting, you know, I keep forgetting because i I go back and forth because some of these things really wow me. I'm like, oh, I did not expect that. And other things are like... You're ruining the science of this all, Christian. i know. That's what I do. i ruin things.
00:34:34
Speaker
at The Christian science monitor here. Hi-yo.
00:34:39
Speaker
So we got the theme song. i mean, I think that we've all made our case for the theme song. Do the opening credits match the the theme song? Or i i kind of feel like there's a solid middle-of-the-road showing because I don't think they would make theme songs as big of a deal with the with the credits if they hadn't done this one first. If they would have done like their normal from that time period is like they just the cards with orchestral versions of something playing, hey it would have been fine.
00:35:07
Speaker
But this this is the foundation for everything that came afterwards. And maybe that's not quite – maybe that might be anachronistic. Maybe that's a 50s thing more than a 60s thing. yeah But I'm grateful I did it and I thought it was middle of the road.
00:35:18
Speaker
I really want to hear your take on this, Christian, because I do feel like this – like you said, it's stylistically trying to mimic Hitchcock and things that were really big at that time.
The Legacy of Sean Connery's James Bond
00:35:29
Speaker
Yeah. Um, so I want to hear your take. I will say i actually really loved the ripoff with the dots and everything.
00:35:38
Speaker
So I thought the dots and the James Bond theme, I was into it. And then actually, once it went to the silhouettes and groovy music, it just felt like such a tone shift. I knocked it down a whole point. It did not feel cohesive at all.
00:35:51
Speaker
No, I think you're right. the This is, that's the prototype and prototypes have unfortunate flaws, but um I think you're right about that. Like this being like a strange, like tonal shift. I was just like, Oh, Viva Las Vegas. It's like, they want to be like the rat pack. um But yeah, they did. They did get there with the dots and the gun barrel.
00:36:17
Speaker
And sorry, hot take. I don't like that Sean Connery's Bond wears a hat in gun barrel sequence. Well, here's a, if it might help you sleep better at night, that's not Sean Connery.
00:36:30
Speaker
Oh, is it? Who is it? It's a, it's like a stunt double or, or like a production person. Sean Connery wasn't there. And so they, they had someone else do it. So the hat is still there. the The hat is the issue, not the Sean Connery. Yes. No, it's, it's the hat. Like, and it's,
00:36:45
Speaker
It's too awkward. Like Connery, you you see him move in the film and it's like he is not he does not move that awkwardly. He's rather fluid in the way that he moves. I think that's a representation. If Sean Connery had done that with the hat on, you would have thought that is baller. I'm willing to bet. Why didn't they reshoot it? and That's just the weird thing. I agree. I will say that I i dislike the gun barrel. We're not specifically ranking the gun barrel ones because, you know, it doesn't make sense to. This one gun barrel one, I don't like ah for the same reason, because before he turns to shoots, it almost like he trips over his feet and like rotates as he's falling and shoots. i Like, that's not James Bond.
00:37:21
Speaker
James Bond would just straight up like, oh you're going to got you, sucker. Exactly. All right. Bond performance. Hit us. I mean, this is yeah i this is an easy 10 for me.
00:37:34
Speaker
This is like perfect James Bond. Carries the menace so effortlessly without ever losing any of the charm. The sex appeal is there. ah The strength, the control, the violence, everything that James Bond is supposed to be is perfectly encapsulated in Sean Connery's performance in this movie. And I've i've said it before, i'll probably say it again.
00:37:56
Speaker
I believe Sean Connery could have really hurt every single person he did that with. None of it looked faked. None of it looked pulled. And if somebody had tried to pull it, I think he would have gotten mad and said, no we're doing this for real. I thought it was the perfect Bond. And I would say, if you take...
00:38:11
Speaker
You know Live and Let Die, for example, Roger Moore's first. If you took that caliber of Roger Moore and put him in that first Bond movie, I don't think you have a franchise. Certainly not one that lasts 25 years because you need everything that Sean Connery brought to that role for it to really sink.
00:38:27
Speaker
I feel you. Solid nine. um Like I say... you're You've already heard my my Bond sort of memories.
00:38:37
Speaker
I think that I wish that this had been the benchmark and that it had gone up from here. It does go up from here for a while, but it dips, unfortunately. i think that... But I was, like I said, I was very impressed. I was like, oh, he's an actual... like He's an agent. He is intelligent. He's not just there to shoot things up and, you know, go to bed with pretty lady. He, he portrays like what an agent should be. And I think that's one of the stronger imprints from Ian Fleming, Sir Ian Fleming.
00:39:14
Speaker
So yeah, nine fully agree. So nine, what, uh, cat, have you bestowed us? No, I haven't. I also had it as a 10. I think Connery does come out guns a-blazing. It's a peak performance with the charm, with the roguishness.
00:39:34
Speaker
She's even doing the action. Oh, no. ah The roguishness. As anyone who knows me knows, cannot do accents. They all turn into racist Italian. You can do racist Italian like a gangbuster dude. I can racist Italian. So I will not try to do the Sean Connery.
00:39:52
Speaker
I would actually... practically hear the Mamma Mia there. Listen to what got to say, Mamma Mia. Yeah.
00:39:58
Speaker
But no, I think he comes out firing on all cylinders. And I think things get a little bit hokier from this point on. He starts to dial up certain aspects of his performance in different ways where this is the most dangerous feeling.
00:40:15
Speaker
This is the most... I definitely agree with that. Yeah. This is the most dangerous Connery ever was. Yes, the most dangerous Connery for sure. There are other like Daniel Craig particularly in... Well, I mean all of his movies. Terrifying. Timothy Dalton, when he goes unhinged, terrifying. Wait, who?
00:40:32
Speaker
Timothy Dalton. He was ah actually, Timothy Dalton was an actor who was very good. He was trained Shakespearean. And so if you look at who the J from James Bond movies are. Wait a second. You're talking about the guy from Toy Story, right?
00:40:44
Speaker
The guy who's the hedgehog from. Okay. I'm with you now. Yeah. i thought it was Buzz Lightyear.
00:40:51
Speaker
No, no. Timothy Dalton wasn't Buzz Lightyear. He wasn't. I don't think so. Timothy Dalton wasn't Home Improvement, though. Thanks, Al.
00:41:01
Speaker
Yes. Yeah. Great. Solid bond performance. Yeah. So 10 for me. Overall. So now we come on to the crown jewel. We come on to the visual language.
00:41:13
Speaker
Yes. We do love to come on to things. One line. Calm down, Connery. Calm down. All right. Kat, why don't you just get right back up on that horse and tell us. something Yeah, absolutely. Yeah.
00:41:29
Speaker
Woo, you can't see it, but I'm galloping. ah I gave this a solid seven, but I will say it's more for sets than the camera work. I don't think the cinematography is really that special, but the sets that they built, I think, once again, just set the scene for Bond that would come. That villain layer is awesome.
00:41:53
Speaker
ah The arc of the lines with Dr. Loves Rocks, When he shows up on Grab Key and it's just the room with the high ceiling and that and the lighting there.
00:42:05
Speaker
That scene alone is half my rating. So think the sets are cool. I think that they set the tone for the outrageousness to come.
00:42:16
Speaker
and
00:42:18
Speaker
Taylor, why have you ruined that word for me? ah Anyway. i' Ruined it or made it special.
00:42:27
Speaker
Porqué nos dos. Don't answer that question. Porqué nos dos. But yeah, good sets. Cinematography will get better. I already know what will be my 10, but that's way down the line.
00:42:39
Speaker
Yeah. it's ah View to a kill. How do you think they did with the visual language there, Christian? So I gave it a seven as well. Like I said, there there are some really great highs, a lot of like mediocre.
00:42:54
Speaker
And when I say mediocre, it's probably budgetary reasons. It's not, you know, intentional reasons. um By the way, i i misattributed the set designer. I don't know if he worked on Dr. No, but I know he worked on subsequent Bond movies. Ken Adam, not Klaus Adam. You idiot. That's embarrassing. He is... um he is ah ah ah German Jewish descent. In fact, his family like had to get out of Germany during a particular moment in history that we can't talk about on YouTube. um but And he later, i believe, he wanted to like fly for the RAF.
00:43:33
Speaker
And they kind of like didn't want let him. And he's just like, no, I want to go shoot down Germans. So... um This is a taster, I think, of what Ken Adam would later do. But like i like you said, Kat, the the that first like interrogation room of Dr. No's at Crab Key, amazing.
00:43:52
Speaker
um They did a good job. um One of the things I'll give J.J. Abrams credit for is like finding existing places and using them for sets and that's that are very effective. I think whatever...
00:44:05
Speaker
whatever factory sort of like industrial complex that was at crab key is serviceable for what it was. Can I ask what JJ Arabs has to do with that? ah Just his, his, just the, the use of existing,
00:44:20
Speaker
like non-sets, but like locations that have interesting like construction. and be it it look So one of the scenes from Star Trek 2009 was like a brewery, but it's like the engine room or something like that. but so it's not so's So they would find, it's a found set or found locations where they wouldn't have to build anything. And I think they did a good job Mostly. um i have a really strong feelings about day for night.
00:44:46
Speaker
I don't like day for night. And there's a lot of that, unfortunately, but, you know, budgetary restrictions, probably. um the The scene with the dragon was like, I was just like, can we get over this and just have him be in the lair by now? It's just like this weird, like unattractive looking swamp.
00:45:07
Speaker
that may or name may not have been like connected to the same like island location. thing that bothered me about that especially was like you have Quarrel, who is a boat captain who lives on the main island in Kingston. You're telling me he wouldn't recognize a truck?
00:45:21
Speaker
Come on. well they have to sound of a truck he drives a boat engines are his lifeblood he's seen it from far away at night they're really relying on distance and darkness and as felix points out he's like a a a grog a grog groggler i don't know i what do you say grog hound grog hound a wine pepper um yeah it sounded like that was like a homestar runner reference i'm a grogger
00:45:52
Speaker
like Some kind of like trod door. byway He's a bit of a guaggle. ah Yeah. I think that some of them could have been elevated, but I think that for what they had to work with, it was good enough. Like it was believable.
00:46:11
Speaker
There wasn't any, except for... maybe one or two scenes like that kind of took me out of it. I think that everything was pretty believable. That's including the, the, the rear projection car chase where there's no concept of foreshortening. And like the car is like,
00:46:31
Speaker
it's like it's like they did they did the uh the uh oh i don't remember what it's called they with ah it's not a rack focus but it's it's the zoom focus thing that hitchcock did and spielberg did a lot of jaws notably i just love i feel like you can almost see reel behind him rippling you can almost hear it As the fabric set is going by. You can hear the projector. The projector.
00:46:59
Speaker
I mean, that that driving sequence is so bad because like you're watching the driver twist his hands every which direction while the car goes straight. And then he stops. And then it goes.
00:47:11
Speaker
Come on, guys. But the fight scene after was great. Fight scene. I had the only one-liner in the movie. It was great. I gave the visual language in this movie a solid five right in the middle of the road, but it would be significantly less if not for that one shot, which is what you've talked about, which is when he goes in to get the, goes in the layer to get the spider, that one shot, the way they framed it with a wide angle down, pointing up so you can catch the whole light, walking into the empty room, combined with the menace of his voice, I thought was masterfully done. That scene was perfectly executed.
00:47:47
Speaker
Everything else in the movie was like, meh, It's fine. It's not standing out like the the fish tank, for example. Oh, we better have fish here that are clearly minnows and guppies. Well, you see, it's a magnifying glass. o o Come on.
00:48:03
Speaker
Come on. That's weak sauce. What was going on with that? Well, up until, well, Thunderball and the James Bond canon, but life... I just jump in real quick and say how much I love that you have the answer to this immediately. It may not be right. have an answer for it, but underwater photography was extremely difficult.
Evaluating Honey Rider's Role
00:48:26
Speaker
um And that was owing to a a plethora of different factors. But I think Thunderball was famous for being like the first... under so underwater shot sequence that of that length that was that clear because if you look at other like 60s and 50s like even like color films like go go watch the 20 000 leagues under the sea and it's just like it's awful it's like looking at an olive drab filter being like put over a fish tank it's just awful yeah yeah that was bad so the visual language suffers as a result in my serviceable serviceable is
00:49:05
Speaker
Yeah, i can watch it and not feel like I'm... With one moment of greatness. One moment of pure greatness, but it's it's never enough to take me out of the fact that I'm watching movie except for that one scene with ah the fish. It's a magnifying glass. Okay.
00:49:20
Speaker
The rest of it was fine. it it yes Nothing amazing, nothing terrible. Which brings us to our final, final bit of set dressing. The best set dressing, some might even say.
00:49:32
Speaker
uh the girl the bond girl now cat we talked about last time who is the bond girl because she has pointed out that bond has a bit of a high body count he's got the lady who he's gambling with at the beginning who shows up to his house wearing just his shirt which is you know welcome home you've got miss tarot chef's kiss you did right there just yeah oh yeah yeah it's a great uh a great uh great look for her it's really working I got to say, with Miss Terrell, just once again, i hate all of that because it's not a seduction.
00:50:06
Speaker
It's him grossly taking advantage yeah yeah of a situation. Well, we're not talking about the the sexual mores of the time what was acceptable or not acceptable.
00:50:18
Speaker
But I'm just saying she probably has... She's got lots of screen time, but you're right. She's not a Bond girl. She's not a Bond girl. And there's a taste to it. You'll start to develop as we do this more count. You'll see. You see, as you watch Bond movies, you start to take into account the intentions. The Bond girl starts to become a little more obvious. You'll see. Wait, see did I get into a bad situation doing...
00:50:41
Speaker
a podcast about james bond with two men no no no no no no i'll show you what i mean um so ultimately ah honey you're on the couch tonight taylor oh let's see if i can change her mind with a little little love tap if you know what i mean straight on the mouth you're a dirty whore um so ah so I laugh because it's Oh my gosh, I don't beat my wife. ah
00:51:13
Speaker
The Bond girl is Honey Rider and she is, in my mind, the quintessential Bond girl because everything about her is exactly what you want a Bond girl to be. She shows up in a silly way. She's barely dressed. She contributes nothing to the movie. Okay, now that I'm saying it, it sounds pretty bad. ah the point is ah hu My point is, I gave her a seven and a half.
00:51:36
Speaker
And I gave her a seven and a half because it felt natural for her. I could see that happening in real life. We're there. We're doing a thing. She's like, I'm not scared of this place. What could I possibly be scared of? I come here all the time. And then because she's around James Bond, she gets taken into some kind of action. She's not equipped for it. She doesn't deserve it. And Bond now has to make sure she makes it out safe.
00:51:56
Speaker
I think that she's more than window dressing. She's a believable part of the story. In the context and the universe of the story, her presence is fortuitous for James Bond from a purely sexual point of view. And I think it's dumb that at the end he's like, well, we'll just let the boat go adrift so we can bang.
00:52:12
Speaker
But like, taking that aside, it makes sense to me that he would find her. It makes sense to me the way she acts around him, the anger she has towards him. I don't fully understand why she comes around. Then again, I don't understand why women love Tony Soprano.
00:52:24
Speaker
So... How I do. Yeah, I know you do. here It's the carriage. um I just can't get over.
00:52:35
Speaker
It's very believable that she would be collecting shells in the universe of the movie. It makes sense. And that also so Dr. No would have killed her father, which we just never talk about again. Okay, I forgot about that part. that's I forgot about that part, too. Wow. he killed my father.
00:52:54
Speaker
All I saw was, of don't worry about what I saw. Please continue. oh I give her a seven and a half, too. I will say that. but She was terrible. How dare You're an insult to me, Taylor. You insult our family name. Also, I think she's exactly the same.
00:53:11
Speaker
I don't think she was terrible. um I don't think she was terrible. I'm just laughing at the fact that you're like, she's believable. This is such a realistic part of the movie.
00:53:25
Speaker
Let's go ahead. You're upset that I'm talking about the believably Honey Rider. How many cod shells are just like the beach like that? Let's go back just a few minutes, just a few minutes. And tell me again how Dr. Nosehands aren't the stupidest thing you've ever seen in your life.
00:53:39
Speaker
But his hands were metal. It was so cool. No, it was stupid. It was very, very stupid. But if Dr. No's hands are okay, Honey Rider gets a pass. I'm not saying she doesn't. It's the... hu It's so realistic that she would be there. the context of the movie, you like Dr. No's stupid metal hands, I can like a woman who shows up collecting seashells.
00:54:02
Speaker
okay Did you guys do like a, did you bother to like do a like inflation adjustment for, she's like $50 in Miami. It's like oh almost, it's like 110%. So it's like over $500 for that show. Nice.
00:54:16
Speaker
That's that's daughter entrepreneurial woman with a spirit I can support. That's what we're calling it. Spirit. Okay. I mean, see any support I can give.
00:54:28
Speaker
I do want to talk about her for just a sec. I liked her not just because of the ridiculous entrance, which I do think is vital to a Bond girl, not just because of the ridiculous outfit, which also vital to a Bond girl. If you're not seeing way more stomach than you should be, like, why even bother?
00:54:46
Speaker
um Not should be. There's some pushback on that when we get to Honey Rider, or ah Plenty of Tool, I mean. not Plenty of Tool does not ever show her stomach. What?
00:54:58
Speaker
I'm not going to like that movie. Maybe she does, yeah wrong but I don't remember it. No, here's what I like about Honey Rider, along with all of the typical Bond girl things that would become touch points. I do feel like she's just a hair more adventurous and capable than most we will see it for the next decade or two.
00:55:19
Speaker
um She knows the swamp super well. She goes for it. She has no qualms ducking underwater with a straw inside her mouth.
00:55:30
Speaker
She seems really capable up until we get in the lair. And then she just becomes damsel in distress. But ah that moment, she knows this island. She knows what she wants. She's making money, honey.
00:55:44
Speaker
She's a go-getter. I will say, I think that ah Goldfinger would like to have a conversation with you.
00:55:52
Speaker
About which part? ah the damsel in distress, the down into incapacity. Because like, I joke, but Plenty O'Toole is a badass, dude.
00:56:04
Speaker
Okay, i' I'll re-examine. Maybe that's a Hapala, you know.
00:56:12
Speaker
Jeez. This is my half-remembered... It's quote from the movie!...view from a million viewings of From Russia With Love that I don't remember. If you asked me to name the Bond girl in that right now, couldn't do it.
00:56:26
Speaker
And I've probably seen that movie more than any other. Poor distressed girl who gets... creeped upon by her support or her inferior, her scary butch lesbian boss. It's implied heavily who has like the worst Russian accent outside of Sam. du I was thinking how excited i am because i speak Russian. Christian speaks Russian ish. And like, I'm so excited to watch this movie and listen them. Just butcher it. It's going to be so bad. It is.
00:56:54
Speaker
Spoiler. I can't wait. Cannot wait. I'm glad ka that you brought up that scene because I haven't watched all of them yet, obviously, but my, um, so by the way, like just as a reminder, like the bond girl is whomever appears on the DVD set. Like that's, yeah that what was what we agreed on last time is like who did def by definition is the bond girl apart from like the liaisons, but like my DVDs, they're still in these like little, um, like DVDs,
00:57:30
Speaker
ASMR things. You gotta do the cap. There's no visible damage to the disc. That whole scene is just gone. I can't watch it anymore. so like There's like this big chunk of movie where it's like the whole like basically when after they shoot the beach, like shoot them at the beach to the time that they get captured. oh so like I've only seen the dragon tank once. It won't play. It just won't play. but This one's been edited for your protection.
00:57:57
Speaker
But, but, but I'm glad that you brought that up though, because that, you know, you're exactly right on point with that. She is, and I was very impressed. I'm like, oh, this Bond girl like is capable. She has it. Like, she's not afraid of Bond at all. She's like, she's got her knife, brand like brandishing her knife. Like she's not afraid.
00:58:16
Speaker
And up until she gets, they get into the thing, she is capable. But yeah. And it's, and I, and I, it's, It's horrible, but like the, the way that Dr. No treats her is just horrible, but the way that she reacts to it is very realistic. It's not like over the top, but I don't understand. Like, I don't understand like when they're at dinner and she's like, it bonds, like I'll let the girl go. We should just not part of this. And she's just like, no, I'm staying. It's like, why does she want to stay? And maybe that goes into like her wanting revenge. me Like, and i would have seen her do the play with the table knife, not bond.
00:58:59
Speaker
I mean, I could see gone, but I would, yeah, I would have seen her try it first and then he tries it and then he gets caught. So like, I would have liked to have seen like a little bit more of a tussle because she is,
00:59:15
Speaker
you know, she is capable. I wish that there had been more of that. It just seemed she's just woman assault happened. Maybe off screen deal with you. Like, Oh geez.
00:59:28
Speaker
Yeah. its job is Backstory. ah I, I think that I think though, ah so I didn't even give the score five. Um, okay. For basically the reasons that people already discussed, like once they get into the, the the main like layer,
00:59:44
Speaker
She doesn't do a whole lot. I just, yeah, I wish that she would have like resisted a bit more. I mean, she's out of her element. She's not like, it's not the beach. She was totally out it for gosh out of her Straight to jail. straight to Straight to jail. Straight to the cutting room floor for that one. No, I've forgotten my other point. Sorry. we have to keep this in. No, we don't.
01:00:10
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We don't. um But overall, like one thing that this is ah like ah is kind of a sidecar to this discussion, correct me if I'm wrong, I feel like the leering was very 50 50. Hmm. I appreciated that. Like, it wasn't just James Bond, like Oak link there. Like I know for a fact that he in her honor, majesty, secret service bond is walking through a hallway, looking at ah an adult magazine just in the hallway centerfold out.
01:00:45
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I just don't know why remembered that scene. I'm like, oh, that's kind of strange. Oh, I think I know why. I love magazines. I have a huge collection of them. Magazines of Starlogs. Look at the glossy paper. I have like every issue of Starlog. I have Nintendo Power from the very beginning. Those are worth a lot of money. Just kidding. don't. My friend Mike had those. No, I feel like it was a little fairly balanced for the for the era.
01:01:13
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of ogling like you have like the women ogling bond you have bond make giving eyes i just i don't know why i decided to bring that up but i just i know it was something i noticed it was like i expected it to be very like roger moore era yeah like the the the the that scene i remember from that movie unfortunately was the the zooming camera that watch camera thing that he has oh geez yeah There you go. Five.
01:01:46
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ah Five. I did the math on mine and I updated. So I actually updated some before I gave but some of the scores that I gave were all accurate. My final scores. My total for this one comes out to 58 and a half out of 100. Slightly better in the middle of the road, but not by much.
01:02:01
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ah I have a 68 out of 100. So solid. I'd say passing score pretty much. Sure. A D plus. 55. D plus.
01:02:13
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55. I also think very serviceable. Yeah. star it'll It'll do when no other Bond movie will will be available. Awesome.
01:02:24
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We did it. A view to a podcast. Done. Well, this episode anyway. Da-da-da-da! Bwa-ba-ba!
01:02:34
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Quick catch the last chord. Anyway, join... There you go. Oh my gosh. So bad. I can't do it. I can't do it. You two have to do the voices. but but um brotherla salla lavava let Just throw some racist Italian. on That's what you did for your sound of the chord. But you should have thrown a little bit of racist Italian on top of it to make it consistent with the character of yourself. you Listen, you two do the noises and I will be here to say, join us next time for From Russia. From Russia. With love. With love.
01:03:14
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There I go.
01:03:20
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See you guys later. All right. Bye.