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292: BLIND GUARDIAN, April 18, 2024 @ The Fillmore, Silver Spring, MD, USA | Show Review
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Reviewing the first show of BLIND GUARDIAN's The God Machine 2024 North American Tour with NIGHT DEMON at The Fillmore, Silver Spring, MD, USA on April 18, 2024.
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Transcript
Introduction and Blind Guardian's Sound Issues
00:00:00
Speaker
Tonight on podcast them down, we're talking about blind guardians, fantastic performance, and there's sound guys, shitty, whatever the fuck you did.
00:00:13
Speaker
Hail, Metal Nation, it is I. There are some who call me Kim. And you are listening to Podcast Them Down, Metal Podcast. Okay, so Dave, how many times have you seen Blind Guardian? I've seen Blind Guardian 11 times. Damn. Wow. That's more than, by my count, I've seen them five times. I didn't look that up. You've seen them more than five times. I've seen them at least five times with you.
00:00:43
Speaker
All right. Okay. Well, twice, uh, uh, at Jack's twice in Springfield, Virginia, twice, twice in Vaucon. That's what I'm missing. All right. Well, I got Vaucon 2007 and 09. They were there. Okay. And then Baltimore soundstage 2015. And then most recently, so April 18th, yeah, April 18th, 2024, the Fillmore silver spring, the first show of their God machine tour.
00:01:12
Speaker
Um, that I think has been what, what didn't they announce it and it was postponed and this is where it landed or something.
Mid-Atlantic: Gateway for European Bands?
00:01:20
Speaker
That was there somewhere far beyond 30th anniversary tour that was supposed to happen. And actually I think it's interesting because they were originally going to be happening in 2020, but then COVID happened.
00:01:30
Speaker
But the Somewhere Far Beyond tour was in 1992. So when it finally got postponed to September of 2022, it was a legitimate 30th anniversary. Almost to the day they were playing shows to the 30th anniversary because the Somewhere Far Beyond tour in 92 was through Germany and Austria and probably some Swiss shows, but it was September and October of 92.
00:01:56
Speaker
But the God machine went off without a hitch as far as I'm aware. At least the U.S. states didn't get postponed for any reason. And yeah, it was nice. We in the mid-Atlantic have a really kind of
00:02:12
Speaker
I think a lot of people may not be aware of this, but we have the luxury of being the first show on many, many, many tours coming from Europe. I don't know whether it's easiest to come into BWI or Tier. When they flew into Georgia and then drove to Baltimore for their first show and then came back to Georgia later.
00:02:34
Speaker
OK, well, often I think it's easy. There's a lot of there's a lot of airports on these coasts. New York, Newark, Baltimore and Dulles.
00:02:47
Speaker
that I'm sure they're like, we'll start it right in the middle of the East Coast. That way, no matter what airport you come into, you're only
Pre-Concert Adventures: Parking and Dinner
00:02:56
Speaker
a four-hour drive. You're going to be giving a tour, yeah. Maybe that's what's happening. DC Baltimore gets a good smattering and historically has gotten a good smattering of the starts of tours. Sonata Arctica's first US show was in the DC area. Same with Blind Guardian. Well, it was the start of the tour. Their first show was at Prague Power in 2002.
00:03:17
Speaker
I could probably wax nerdy about Blind Guardian for the majority of this podcast, but I don't know if anybody wants to listen to me info dump about them. I do. OK, in that case, buckle up, everyone. All right. Well, let's let's derail that. So, yeah, let's talk about.
00:03:37
Speaker
the whole experience of seeing Blind Guardian at the Fillmore, Silver Spring. Silver Spring. It's really called the Fillmore, Silver Spring. Yeah, because there's another Fillmore. Yeah, several others. We're not even the only Fillmore East at this point. Yeah, so.
00:03:58
Speaker
We discussed on a different concert review the surprisingly cheap parking fees in the nearby parking structure. Let's start there. I put in the maximum time and it charged me $3.80. It is very convenient. I ended up getting there quite late.
00:04:26
Speaker
So the parking garage was only going to be open for another 59 minutes when I arrived. So I only had to pay like a dollar and 12 cents.
Night Demon: Skepticism to Enjoyment
00:04:35
Speaker
That's even better. Yeah. So we got there. We got there like when doors opened, but.
00:04:45
Speaker
We went and got dinner at the Vietnamese place, Caddy Corner, from the venue. And when I was walking to the, it looked like I was lost because there's the line of metal heads trying to get into the venue an hour before Night Demon goes on. So, yeah, so, but I'm on the other side of the street walking away from the venue.
00:05:14
Speaker
I look like I belong with them and, you know, duck into the restaurant. And, yeah, like when we got out, there was no line anymore. I walked straight up and in, and I could have walked to the railing. Like, you don't need to get there. I know some shows you do, but you really don't need to get there and line up an hour before. It's not like the Jack's days.
00:05:42
Speaker
Yeah. When we're all, we got, we got a blind guardian when you're so early. But you had to because otherwise you would be like, I, I, how many hours did you spend waiting in that parking lot next to Afghan kebab? Like, yeah. And we were there early enough that, uh, Einstein brothers bagels was still open. Yeah. Wow. I forgot about that. Holy shit. Like, yeah, they were, they were preparing to close, but, but it was still like two 30.
00:06:12
Speaker
Right. And Hansi walked in with his team. Yeah, anyway, that was not the case this time. Yeah, so I was there before both of you. And I still had to wait for Night Demon to start, so there's plenty of time. Yeah, so I mentioned them several times now. The support, there's only one opener for this show. It is a band out of Ventura, California.
00:06:42
Speaker
three piece called Night Demon. And they are good. Yeah, so I was worried. So I know people who love them, but I never really listened to them. And then I was worried that there's only three of them because it's a trio. And then I was worried even more so when they started playing and it was like New Wave of British Heavy Metal.
00:07:06
Speaker
And I was like, oh no, it's going to be an hour of this, just like this riff. Because when they came out, they just like, they went into these like three or four fast paced songs. And I'm like, this is going to get old if they don't change it
The Hit or Miss of Opening Acts
00:07:25
Speaker
up.
00:07:25
Speaker
but they're really good and they were able to change it up throughout the set, but it wasn't boring at all. So, um, yeah. So I was pleasantly surprised by night demon, but maybe I've just been like burden so many times by bands with one sound, you know, play too long. You did seem very pessimistic going into the show. I will admit.
00:07:49
Speaker
Look, if I'm not a fan of the band that's opening, I am going to be predisposed to be pessimistic about the opener because... Okay, that's fair. Here's the thing. And I think, Tim, you might be able to relate to this. Heavy Metal is such a broad field that in the late 90s and early 2000s in the United States, when there was a renaissance occurring and people were going out to metal shows again,
00:08:17
Speaker
the bills were out of control. So you'd go see a power metal show, ostensibly like a power metal headliner, and there'd be a black and death metal band opening, a grindcore band after them. Oh, yeah. And then like just like there was no there was no cohesion to the bill. And it just got exhausting because I don't want to go see
00:08:43
Speaker
a band that sounds like Niall open up for a band that sounds like Symphony X. I just don't. And. Yeah, that seems that kind of bred this distrust and wariness of opening acts, which is completely unwarranted in this case, because I disagree. Oh, in this case, this case, because in general, it's a good policy.
00:09:10
Speaker
Oh, I thought you grew a tail. I wasn't going to say anything now. The cat decided to get tangled in the headphones.
Concert Experience with a Pregnant Companion
00:09:15
Speaker
Oh, yes, I know. Precious kidding. But like Night Demon, I don't know how to describe them, but the first. Let me let me come clean on this one.
00:09:26
Speaker
Part of the reason that I did not go to the show, like I normally would, you know, get there early, drink some beers, stand in line at the merch, buy a lot of merch, so on and so forth, is that my wife is literally- All these things, all these things I want to address, by the way. Yes. This is for you for later.
00:09:44
Speaker
My wife is my wife. My wife. Longtime concert partner in Europe. I'm never going to let you get the sentence though. Go ahead. The Blind Guardian show was eight days prior to her due date for our first child. And my wife is a consummate trooper and was like, yeah, we're going to go to the show, but not for one single second longer than we have to be there.
00:10:10
Speaker
So that's fair. So we ended up getting there quite late. We listened to Night Demon on the way in as Night Demon was playing. So I got to enjoy their studio albums.
Venue Economics: Beer and Merchandise
00:10:20
Speaker
They have this kind of great twin guitar, though it's apparently one guitar sound.
00:10:29
Speaker
And like they've got this kind of like mid era jag panzer quality to them that really appealed to me like it's just super tasty riffs and the drummer was like
00:10:41
Speaker
Oh, he froze. He froze. Well, their guitarist is named Armand Anthony, which already sounds fake, right? This is Armand's apartment, Armand's beer, Armand's copy of Swank. Can I see your copy of Swank, Armand? All right. Their drummer, as of 2023.
00:11:07
Speaker
is Brian Wilson. And I thought, God only knows what I'd do without him. I know. That's what I thought. I was like, Brian Wilson's still active. Last time I saw him, I did see the Beach Boys. And they had him propped up in a grand piano. It was actually kind of sad. You know Brian Wilson's favorite Taylor Swift song. I'm not going to get this joke. What is it? It's shaking off.
00:11:37
Speaker
Oh, geez. Well, so I made the comment that Brian Wilson looks like, um, uh, the night demons, Brian Wilson, to be clear, looks like, uh, 1992 Mike Portnoy. So. Okay. All right. Yeah. So, um, but then I texted this to Greg, who was down on the floor.
00:12:01
Speaker
Hey, he's back. I texted this. Greg was down on the floor and he said, all I can see are a is a Tom rack and hair. Oh, no. Yeah. And then and then the most made up name in Night Demon is Jarvis Leatherby. Jarvis Leatherby. That's that's yeah. Vocals based in the present Jarvis Leatherby. I
00:12:29
Speaker
And he's also in Cirith Ungle. And so was the guitarist formerly in Cirith Ungle, which is confusing because their first album was in like, or their big hit was in 1983. These guys are too young to have it so clearly. Yeah. They're younger guys who joined Cirith Ungle later.
00:12:57
Speaker
Anyway, you were saying, Dave. We got there late. We listened to Night Demon. They were, I don't know. I feel like I had made my point. Jagdpanzer-esque, I really liked them. Tasty riffs. Their drummer sounded great. The drum sound was also just like super meaty and like classic metal aggressive, and I really appreciated that.
00:13:16
Speaker
Yes, foreshadowing their drum sound was very good. Oh, my God. And oh, they also had matching flying V's.
Merchandise Quality: Blind Guardian's Offerings
00:13:26
Speaker
So the bass, the basses had a flying V like a Gibson. And so did the guitarist. Nice. So that that was that was satisfying. OK, so among the things you mentioned that we need to address is
00:13:43
Speaker
the beer prices. Oh yeah. So I made a joke about a $12 beer. You were fully. Yeah. I wish. Yeah. So, uh, imagine my surprise when I found out they were $15. Now it is a 24 ounce beer. I, I don't know if this is a thing nationwide, but definitely in the DC area,
00:14:09
Speaker
They are selling 24 rounds of beers everywhere you go. So it's really like getting two beers. And so it works out to 750 a beer, which is only 50 cents like per 12 ounces, which is only 50 cents more than if I had gotten a beer at the Vietnamese place.
00:14:31
Speaker
So while I was annoyed that two beers and tip was north of like $40, believe it or not, the venue was not price-calving you as hard as they could. But I would like, there's 24 ounce beers. I don't like them because when you get to the bottom, however much, it's all warm and gross. And then you have to drink it real fast.
00:14:59
Speaker
and then buy another one, which is what they're trying to get you to do. Oh, yeah. So, just a quick moment to pause, and this is going to foreshadow another thing we want to talk about, but SteelResolve.com has all of your branded koozie needs to make sure that you don't have hot, gross... I don't actually know if we do or not. I don't actually know. We stopped doing the SteelResolve.com plugs.
00:15:24
Speaker
I always have a koozie in my pocket. Buy your podcast and down shirt there. How about that? Yeah, there we are. And turn it into a koozie, which can help you avoid the last eight ounces of warm hair. But for real, I always keep one in my jacket because
00:15:39
Speaker
Because you have a problem. Because I got a problem. And that problem is warm beer, which you have solved by carrying around a koozie. Merch prices. Night Demon had a $25 shirt, and that is the maximum I was willing to spend on anything. Blind Guardian shirts were $40, which is
00:16:02
Speaker
It's too much for me, but I thought it was neat that they had a Silver Spring shirt. They have show specific shirts for sale. Yes. And I'm sure it's just the back has changed and they buy like four of them. It's the same. It's everything's the same except the name. Was there a date on it? Did you see? I think so. If not a date, just a city. Yeah, it says Silver Spring and I remember like I've been.
00:16:31
Speaker
I'm on active on certain blind guardian online communities and I've been seeing pictures and such of the runs and they're all, they have like show specific merch for those, those shirts as well.
00:16:47
Speaker
But none of the art was amazing enough for me to... It's nowhere near as bad as Dream Theater's merch has been. I shudder to think what Dream Theater must be like. It's like, what should we shit onto this shirt? How about something totally unrelated made of clip art? Okay. Oh, oof.
Tour Setup: Minimalist but Effective?
00:17:08
Speaker
And like, here's my thing. I bought...
00:17:11
Speaker
No, I bought one beer and no merch and why couldn't I buy three money three beers? And to those of you who are familiar with me Tim specifically, you know how much blind guardian merch I have like I buy so much blind guardian stuff, but I just couldn't bring myself to do it because the like
00:17:38
Speaker
duo chromatic screen print job on these shirts that they were selling for $40. It's just like, if you had added two more colors, it would have just looked like the album artwork and been something I might've wanted to buy. And the art itself wasn't bad. It was just the execution of putting it onto a t-shirt just failed completely.
00:17:58
Speaker
Yeah, like, like even the logo looked bad. And I'm used to Blind Guardian shirts like being vibrant, like the new releases that they've done with the classic covers with updated like filters, I guess, for lack of a better term for the visuals, like Nightfall and Middler fucking glows on these shirts in a way that it didn't on the original cover because you know, but even retrospectively, their their art has always been vibrant. And this was just so
00:18:29
Speaker
drab that I couldn't do it. I think they missed an easy opportunity to sell a white shirt. Oh, white tie dyed shirt. Tie dyed in gray ink.
00:18:43
Speaker
like to mimic the clouds on the cover. Right. For our listeners, the album they're touring for is The God Machine, which is mostly white with a lot of very red eye-catching stuff. But it's just, you know, and it's my background.
00:19:00
Speaker
Some might argue that a white t-shirt's not in the Blind Guardian Target demo. It's not a very forgiving color. But they had several shirts they could have. No, no.
00:19:16
Speaker
So they also, speaking of the God Machine, you can buy an autographed CD copy of the God Machine. But considering how much I struggled to listen to it before the show, I was like a better brush up on some of these new songs. So I'm ready for the concert. And I just couldn't get myself to pay attention to the God Machine. So it's probably a good thing. We're not reviewing it.
00:19:45
Speaker
Maybe. The album. Yeah. And I know you're probably wondering why I did not buy this. I mean, it's an award. The autographed one? Yeah. Well, the reason is because they also had them for sale when Michelle and I went to Germany to see them on the somewhere far beyond. And I bought one there. Well, with the exchange rate, I'm sure it worked out even. It's pretty much. Okay. I think it was also 40 euros.
00:20:15
Speaker
Well, that doesn't work out. Yeah, you made a really bad decision, Dave. I know. Well, I didn't use my scrying device to know that I'd be able to buy one closer to home.
Observations from the Balcony: Crowd and Stage
00:20:27
Speaker
You always got to be scrying. Don't even leave the house without scrying.
00:20:35
Speaker
So a night demon had a relatively minimal setup. They had two scrims behind, which were the amps and the drum kit. So when they finished, they got all that off stage to reveal everything Blind Guardian brought to the country for this tour, which was a drum kit and a backdrop. That's it. Are those his drums? I don't even know. Can I say? No.
00:21:05
Speaker
keep going because I got more to talk about. Well, the last show I went to sound stage, not sound stage. Uh, the last show I was at film or four was Halloween who brought a three level riser and, uh, you know, like a giant inflatable pumpkin, which I thought was stupid. Well, of course. Yeah. But, um, they brought like all this shit. Oh, and a video screen and blind guardian.
00:21:31
Speaker
had not been dropped. There was nothing on the stage other than the the drum riser, which probably was the venue's last time they had props ever.
00:21:43
Speaker
was 1998. Like, unless you count the braziers that they had on stage at the Blind Guardian Open Air Festival, and like the vacant pyrotechnics that are just like there. Their stage dressing has always just been them on stage for the last 20, 30 years. It sounds like I'm coming off as complaining, but I'm not.
00:22:04
Speaker
I'm just saying they went very minimal. They didn't. Oh, a night demon also had like extra lights on the stage with blind guardian did not. So they, they have nothing. It's them. That's it. Yeah. And I've always found it a little odd. Like my first experience with blind guardian was at Jax, which is a basement club.
00:22:28
Speaker
for just general descriptive purposes. So there was nothing glamorous about that place at all. And then I saw them in Vaucan, which is a huge festival experience. And I've always found it odd that in their clubs and
00:22:42
Speaker
larger size amphitheater kind of venues. They didn't do anything more ambitious with stagecraft because they're contemporaries. Like Running Wild has a fucking pirate ship. Amon Amarth is doing all of their craziness. Gamma Ray and Halloween have the pumpkin shenanigans and all that stuff. King Diamond literally brought wrought iron gates. He's in another, he's in a completely different category. That was the last show I saw at the Billboard. Wow.
00:23:12
Speaker
But no, I have to check into this because I now I don't know about the drum situation.
Setlist Delights: Balancing Old and New
00:23:18
Speaker
I'll find out. Please, someone do something and talk because I'm going to be boring for a minute. Oh, I want to talk about how boring you're being. So my phone. Another another comparing contrast. The.
00:23:33
Speaker
Night Demon blazed through their set. Every time they stopped the song, they'd start another one. And they barely said anything between songs. Blind Guardian did the exact opposite. Every time they finished the song, Anzi would talk at length about something. Again.
00:23:51
Speaker
I know it sounds like I'm complaining again. I'm not complaining. I'm just saying it was it was the opposite. He also got the names almost got the name Silver Springs. It was a very like it was a very nobody rocks like Springfield Springs, Silver Springs. We're very happy with your Silver Springs.
00:24:19
Speaker
Yeah, it was a lot of that. And it wasn't that, it wasn't that bad, but it was still funny. And you know, they're, they're jet lagged. Yeah, it's fine. They don't know. No one knows where silver spring is. It was, you know, worldwide audience picture Washington DC. All right. Silver spring. If there was a clock center right over Washington DC, silver spring would be at about one 30. Yep.
00:24:49
Speaker
Maybe two, maybe. Yeah, Silver Spring is big and sprawly. And it's inside the this part of it is inside the Beltway. But also Silver Spring is an amorphous area that's like gigantic and takes up half the county. Yeah. Yeah. Like if you're sending anything kind of north of D.C., you could probably write Silver Spring, Maryland on it and it'll probably get there. Why don't they just say Washington?
00:25:19
Speaker
Or Maryland? Well, Bruce Dickinson did that when they played Merryweather in Columbia, Maryland, but he kept saying, Maryland? Scream for me, Maryland! Like the cookies? Yes, exactly. I mean, it's a lot better than saying, how's it going, Bristow, Virginia?
00:25:42
Speaker
Yeah, well, Bristo's just an intersection, basically. All right. Okay, so I've confirmed through extensive Instagram research that, no, in fact, Blind Guardian didn't even bring the drums. They brought their guitars and themselves. Oh, I definitely knew that was their guitars, because he brought his signature sonar that I've been
00:26:04
Speaker
I don't know if it's actually a signature, but he's been playing a sonar for so long. Andre or Marcus. Marcus. Marcus. I thought he was playing a PRS at points. He got a PRS in like the last year or two. Well, that red, that red guitar is a sonar. He's got it. I think the PRS is green. Solar. Solar. Oh, the solar. Yeah. Yeah. Everybody wants that. I don't know what I was saying. So not me. My great venue in Baltimore.
00:26:30
Speaker
My words, we don't mean the, uh, the solar guitars, they don't have the exact configuration
Sound Troubles: Drum Echoes and Mix Issues
00:26:43
Speaker
I want. So, uh, Ola, if you're listening, um, I need, are they Spanish? No, all England, the guy who's
00:26:58
Speaker
Because so all laws in the middle of solar didn't she ever you ever know I get I got that I get it now Okay, so what I need is a seven string V That's not black or white
00:27:15
Speaker
with a floating bridge. That's exactly what I need. Anyone who's seen Eisenmore before knows that I already have that with the BC rich. I just want a solar instead. Thank you. All right. And who wouldn't really? Well, apparently not enough people for him to carry one. That means the market's not big enough. I am that market. Oh, and I also want to pay bottom dollar for that, please. Thank you.
00:27:44
Speaker
I will pay tens of dollars. So I was contemplating on, I guess, like maybe the 17th or whatever about going to the airport and saying whether we're blind guardians flying into maybe meet them at the airport or something like that. Well, David, you remember the restraining order. No big deal or anything.
00:28:09
Speaker
Well, okay, so this is the bizarre thing in this age of the internet and social media. I follow Blind Guardian and they're members.
00:28:24
Speaker
Oh, it's easier to snuck them. Yes, I get it. Well, look, if Marcus is posting something at 6 p.m. Eastern time, and I get a notification on Instagram, like Marcus Seepen posted this thing six minutes ago, I'm like, oh, I guess they're taking a break from rehearsal and getting dinner.
00:28:46
Speaker
Because that's what every person does when they take a break from rehearsal. They pull out their phone and post their Instagram shit. So I realized, this is terrible opposite. You're right. I learned, I was like, they're not even at the airport at all. They're already in the country because they were in Lidditz, Pennsylvania. Are you familiar with Lidditz, Pennsylvania?
00:29:09
Speaker
I impacted that. Is this like a twink lettuce? You're going to love this, Tim. It is not like twink lettuce. L-I-T-I-T-Z. Oh, it sounds German. Ja es ist. And it's no doubt why they were intrigued and drawn to it. But there is a
00:29:32
Speaker
facility in Lidditz, Pennsylvania, that is called Rock Lidditz, if I'm not mistaken. And it is a rehearsal space. Are you no longer allowed at this rehearsal space? It's a rehearsal space where you can set up a full everything, like if you're doing an arena tour or a stadium tour. Yeah, yeah, it's a Steinrock Hotel. But if you were coming in to do a U.S. tour.
00:30:04
Speaker
God damn it. This is where you go to prep your technical rehearsals, right? Wow. OK. So they were doing all their tech rehearsals there. But also, it's got great lighting. And I was able to get a good look at Frederick's kit. And it is definitely different. It's got a different wrap than the kit that they were using in Europe. They're both sparkles. They're both the same dimensions, drums. He's got all of his, I guess he brought his cymbals with him. Or maybe he rented his cymbals. I don't know. Can you rent?
00:30:33
Speaker
I imagine you probably can rent symbols. At any rate. You can rent everything. You can rent anything. But I imagine, I imagine... Well, the toll, I can get you a toll. And Tim, I know this is the moment that you've been waiting for it. There is an undeniable connection now between fish and blind guardian. Oh, God. Damn it. Not only... I'm God, bye.
00:31:00
Speaker
Go ahead, go ahead. Not only did they both have shows on the 18th, Blind Guardian was opening their US tour and Phish was playing the first night of their first run at the Sphere in Las Vegas. They also have both used- Hey, is that a pyramid-shaped place? The Sphere?
00:31:23
Speaker
They both went to Rock Lititz? Yes, they did. Fish during, so I guess what was it, 2021 that there was like the big Omercon outbreak. Fish canceled their New Year's shows, but they did a live stream from Rock Lititz. And I wish Blind Guardian had live streamed their rehearsals as well, so I could have watched those.
00:31:50
Speaker
This, uh, they have studio one, studio two, and studio five. What happened to the other two? They had to seal them up. There was no studio three or four. Okay. They definitely didn't burn down. Okay. So, um,
00:32:17
Speaker
Spoiler alert, we're going to go through the entire set list. In case you were going to listen to it later and wanted to be surprised, tell me how you're doing that. Doing perfect.
00:32:33
Speaker
Oh, oh, oh, and this was also the first time, by the way, I was on the balcony at the venue and which allowed me to see, see night demons drummer, not just Tom's and hair. So, um, yeah, the floor of that place for some reason is just freezing.
00:32:53
Speaker
But yeah, I like standing in front of the sound guy because good sound and it's away from the mosh pits because I'm grumpy. And yeah, but it's also easy, very easy to walk along the side and get up close to the stage if you don't mind being in front of the PA. But minor, minor issue. I thought the balcony was pretty good. Good sight lines.
Crowd Dynamics: Surfing and Mosh Pits
00:33:21
Speaker
Uh, decent sound, especially during night before shadowing, but, um, okay. Anyway. Uh, but we'll come back to that because I witnessed some, uh, some things from up there that I want to talk about later, but, um, yeah, so they opened, they had an intro tape that obviously was going to go into imaginations from the other side. You knew it right away. Yep. Yep.
00:33:49
Speaker
So they played that and then immediately, like all bands on tour, have to go and do a song from the new album. So. Well, that's why you pay the ticket.
00:34:00
Speaker
Right. So they did Blood of the Elves, which was probably a good choice. Like everything off the new album was one of the higher tempo things. I don't know why they didn't play Deliver Us From Evil. They did play Violent Shadows. Yeah, that was one of the singles. I guess Secrets of the American Gods didn't get a physical release, but it was a digital single.
00:34:26
Speaker
But yeah, that bugs me because that's actually the song on the album. I like the best. It's got the catchiest chorus. It's got like the most classic blind guardian elements. And I'm also closer to 40 than I've ever been. And I'm grumpier with each passing day. And I want things to sound like they did when I was 14. So next they go into nightfall.
00:34:52
Speaker
Yes. Yeah. Fantastic performance. Script for my Requiem. Which was a surprise. I didn't expect to see that one. I was seen. The script for my Requiem? How obscene. Something about rectums. That's where he's going with this.
00:35:17
Speaker
I was hoping for the script for your rectarium. I was hoping for a bigger crucify, crucify chant, but it didn't happen. I did my best from the balcony. It happened, but not enough, which means too many people are just listening to this new album and thinking they like playing card. They don't know the real anyway. Um,
00:35:47
Speaker
so then uh violent shadows the the one of the other new songs i remember that i was i was thrilled they played uh scalds and shadows yes i was their first of got two acoustic songs
00:36:04
Speaker
Um, and then they got the stage hands. You have to bring out the stools and guitars. I do want to go back to your point about the, um, I'm sorry, I'm talking all over you. I do want to go back to your point though, about the, uh, intersong banter because Hansi was particularly amusing. And so I don't generally film stuff at concerts cause it's obnoxious and it never turns out. Uh, but given that there was nobody behind me because I was in the
00:36:33
Speaker
You think when everyone's doing it, someone's going to have a good video. Yeah, you would think, but I haven't yet to see one. But I was in the back, like there was no one behind me. So I thought, you know what? Fuck it. I'm going to just video all of the stuff that he says between songs. I don't need videos of really songs. Yes. So I have all of Hansi's banter. Oh, maybe we should stick it all together and put it on the. Yeah, that'll be on the picture. No, that would be incredible.
00:37:02
Speaker
Let me get a bit of preview of this. He, yes, the stage hands begin bringing out the guitars and the stools and et cetera. And Hansi looks at the crowd and he's like, I think we can all agree it's too early for the Bard song. And so then they proceed to do Scalds and Shadows. Yeah, man, I can't think of a single Blind Guardian acoustic song besides Past and Future Secret that I'd rather hear than Scalds and Shadows. It's a good one.
00:37:30
Speaker
I wouldn't mind made it in the minstrel night, but is that acoustic enough? Because it's awfully synthy.
00:37:40
Speaker
This might say more about me than Hansi or the band in general, but whatever he was talking, I just heard that Simpsons in the casino where they were asking the Siegfried and Roy guy about the casino, and it's them hunting the tiger, and he's like, hey, tiger, wake up. It's just like I had that voice just all throughout the night.
00:38:08
Speaker
Yeah, having a big party if you'd like to come. Somebody at one point was yelling, yelled, Das is gute. And Hansi was like, feels like home. But I can't understand what you're saying.
00:38:28
Speaker
And all of his banter was delightfully awkward like the next song. He basically goes, I want to see all of you looking at me with your bright eyes. And then they play bright eyes.
00:38:47
Speaker
It's so cool. And then again for the next song, it's like we are here in America and I know you have your secrets and you have the gods and therefore we were going to play Secrets of the American Gods. I mean he's been doing this shit forever.
00:39:09
Speaker
And I love it. And this is something that I don't know if it's talked about in the Blind Guardian spheres, but to me, Hansi's weird, awkward charm in his intersong banter has been a big draw for me from day one. On Tokyo Tales, he's talking about how we just came here, we flew overnight, so I guess it was a bit of a journey through the dock.
00:39:38
Speaker
And then everyone goes, and then they play Journey through the Dark. Anyway, that's pretty amazing. All right. Yeah. So, uh, yeah, I don't have too much to say about bright eyes or, uh, secrets of the America. Oh, like, obviously I like bright eyes a whole lot more. Uh, not that secrets of the American gods is bad. It's just not as good. And it's, here's the thing for me, it takes me a long time to warm up to
Rare Tracks and Encore Surprises
00:40:05
Speaker
new Blind Guardian. It'll take me a year or more of listening to it before it's like, oh, now I remember why this is my favorite band and why I like what they're doing now. And like Tim said, I have not been able to push myself through the God Machine. I'll put it on tomorrow at practice. We'll have to listen to it. How about that?
00:40:26
Speaker
But, you know, I think I've listened to Secrets of the American Gods enough times that the charming parts of it are starting to come out to me. So I feel like I was going to say, let me know when the Twilight Orchestra album's any good. Jesus, I'm not sure I can.
00:40:46
Speaker
Look, they're different bands. Once Blind Guardian, the other is Blind Guardian's Twilight Orchestra. I organized them separately in my digital library. Different bands! There's no drums! There's no Marcus!
00:40:59
Speaker
Or maybe he did something on some tracks, but there's no... We can't talk about that in this show. Jefferson Airplane is clearly different from Starship, Tim. Yes. And then the Owls and Parsons project is some sort of hovercraft. But this is more like saying Jefferson Airplane is distinct from Hot Tuna. Like... Anyhow. Well, we should do an episode on that, but unfortunately that wouldn't be... At Starship? I'm all about it.
00:41:28
Speaker
Nothing's going to stop us now. No, that's why I like orchestra. And then I'm going to have to confront why I bought the vinyl copy of an album I didn't like. After already knowing I didn't like it because I bought the CD version when it first came out. But I had a hole in my collection and I couldn't live with it. You are going to have to address that. Yeah, you are going to have to explain that.
00:41:57
Speaker
But I want to, if we're going to do reviews of bad albums, I want to do Lords of Steel first, which I overpaid for the CD version. Because Manowar took over their own distribution and can charge whatever they want. 50 is the most metal number. That's why everything starts at $50.
00:42:23
Speaker
Well, luckily I only paid half that, but I'm still overpaying for that shit. I mean, that's a lot of money for a coaster. So anyway, after Secrets of the American Gods, the acoustic guitars and stools came back out finally for a bard song in the forest. Gotta be specific. That's right, because there are two bard songs. They, Hansi sung more of it
00:42:52
Speaker
that I'm used to, you know, because usually I'll sing like a line and then the crowd sings the rest. But there was that live album they put out where Hansi didn't sing a word. I was like, that's next level. I was actually kind of impressed because I've seen it both ways, you know, like I've seen him do one line, then the crowd does one, then he sings the rest of the verse, and then they all do the chorus.
00:43:21
Speaker
But yeah, he gave us the first line, and then that was it until the chorus. And I was impressed with the crowd's ability to get all the words correct, especially if nobody was loving Bright Eyes. But I don't know. It was great. There's nothing like the Bard song.
00:43:42
Speaker
What about Time Stand Still at the Arne Hill? You should have said it like he's in Balmer. Time Stand Still at the Arne Hill. Here's a sad song about Morgoth and Tingolfin. Oh, yeah, that was great. That was great. And then they closed the main set with Lost in the Twilight Hole. What a treat. And then, oh, yeah, fantastic. Love both those songs. But then
00:44:07
Speaker
You know, they do the, I don't know why bands bother with the encore anymore. Just like walk off stage, take a drink of water and go back on stage. Everyone knows you're coming back out. The house lights aren't on. I don't get it. We're playing like the fucking play the tape, right? Cause that's what they ended up doing. Yeah. Especially because the first song of the encore has a very long taped intro. Yes. They did sacred worlds.
00:44:35
Speaker
And then, finally, they did close it out with three great songs. Quest for Tana Lorne, Valhalla, and obviously Mirror Mirror. Which, have they been closing every set with that since Nightfall came out? I think so. There have been shows where they've played Mirror Mirror to close the set and then something else to close the encore.
00:45:04
Speaker
I would have to check the stats on that. It's one of the most predictable closer that they ever do.
00:45:11
Speaker
Now, I was talking with Greg about this, and he said, the perfect blind guardian set has hall every several songs. Right? Just repeating? No, no, no. So you put... Into the storm, place area, war of wrath, into the storm, welcome to dying, lost in the twilight hall.
00:45:35
Speaker
Then there'd be like, so it'd be nice. You got it. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. You're missing. You're missing what he's saying. He's saying every third song. Yeah. It has hall in it. So songs born in a morning hall songs lost in the twilight hall songs. Okay. There you go. Now you have a great blind guardian set.
00:46:01
Speaker
There you go. So they stuck pretty close to that. There could have been more hulls. Yeah. But my goodness, the Quest for Tannellorn was also a big surprise. That is a very infrequently played song. Per Setlist FM, I think 18 times it's been played ever.
Concert Ratings: Factoring in Sound Penalties
00:46:23
Speaker
Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah. So they played it a couple of times on the original Somewhere Far Beyond tour.
00:46:29
Speaker
and then every show of the anniversary tour, and then April 18th.
00:46:36
Speaker
So in terms of probably after, I assume they played it. They're playing it on the whole tour. I have not seen it appear again because they're mixing up the encores like they've done into the storm at certain shows. Um, not during the encore, but Oh, okay. So the next night at the Norva, they played in Norfolk. They played welcome to dying. Yep.
00:47:01
Speaker
And then welcome to dying again. Uh, I guess, I guess and Lauren, uh, didn't, they didn't sit well with, I thought they did. They did a great though. They were talking about how hard it is. Yeah. So maybe they just didn't feel like playing a very hard song at the end. It was the first night of the tour. And that's a lot of, uh, vocal stuff. Yeah. Yeah. We got, we got, we got fresh Hansi. Yes. Fright is old. Fright is folks.
00:47:32
Speaker
Yeah, they played Into the Storm last night in the middle of the set right after Scalds and Shadows, which makes me wonder if War of Wrath didn't precede that. Man, can I say this? I like many of their choices that they make for how to open a set. And I really enjoyed the Imagination's opener. I thought that was perfectly executed.
00:47:56
Speaker
And conceptually, the theme from the intro track, because it was new music. The intro track was new music, taking the imagination theme into it. Really, really well done. But from a drama perspective, I don't think it's possible to surpass War of Wrath into the storm as an opening number. Whether that's for set one or for the encore,
00:48:21
Speaker
Especially because the crowd can recite the speech. Exactly. Right. And just the anticipation. I don't know. And because I think a lot of American Blind Guardian fans had Nightfall as their first album or somewhere around there. So that is like a very iconic moment for Blind Guardian's identity in this country. Anyway.
00:48:48
Speaker
So, um, the, uh, let's talk lineup real quick. Oh yeah. Before, before, uh, the, the other shoe drops and we got to, I have to complain at length. All right. I mean,
00:49:06
Speaker
Yeah. So, you know, they got the normal four of them, Hansi, Andre, Marcus, Frederick. All right. They do not tour with a keyboardist anymore. A live keyboardist. I was wondering. I couldn't see one, but I didn't know if he was off stage. No, it's all part of the stage. It's all backing tracks now. Mattias was one of my favorite, favorite parts of the show. He was so much fun.
00:49:35
Speaker
So, but they do have a live basis still. He, um, it's, it's not Oliver Holdsworth anymore. And it hasn't been for a long time. It's a dude named, uh, Johan von stratum. Yes. And he is from a band called stream of passion. So yeah, he, uh,
00:49:58
Speaker
Yeah, I just realized how gross maybe it sounds better in Dutch I don't know because he is from he's from the Netherlands. Of course. He's he's 42 And I thought he'd be a bunch of bands. I've never heard of what's that he was the young guy Comparative. Yeah, well young relative to everyone else Yes, so he
00:50:28
Speaker
I think he did great, but I don't know because the mix was fucking terrible. Yeah, the mix was not good. The mix was all drums. I'm going to come back to the drums, drums, vocals, and lead guitar. I could not hear the rhythm guitar whatsoever unless no one else was playing.
00:50:54
Speaker
And then the bass non-existent, which resulted in Night Demon sounding fuller and louder and way more powerful than Blind Guardy, because they had a bass amp on the stage. So even without it through the house. And the backing tracks, they were too loud as well. So you got...
00:51:25
Speaker
like if you got you got drums and vocals and lead guitar you just didn't have any of the foundation that that needs to lie about that should be the loud part and then everything else needs to sit on top of that and i can't believe a band of blind guardians caliber has such an incredibly shitty sound guy at least for that show
00:51:49
Speaker
Like, it wouldn't surprise me if Night Demon is relying on house sound guys who know the system and they, you know, Blind Guardian brings in a professional and just, like, has terrible sound.
00:52:05
Speaker
And to make it worse, the drums had this persistent issue. Oh my God, that second, that tom. Well, I was trying a long time to figure out what it is. And here's what I know. There was a buzzing sound that I thought it was a blown out speaker. Yeah, that is exactly what it sounded like. Which is weird, because I was like,
00:52:32
Speaker
Uh, night demon didn't have this problem. I walked all over the venue when I disappeared for awhile. That's what I was doing. I was walking. I went downstairs and I went up to each line array and stood in the back. And I'm like, how was no, like, I can hear this everywhere in the venue. Yeah. So.
00:52:51
Speaker
Yeah, I thought it was maybe like a loose mic. Yeah. You know, that's, that's like rattling on its, on its, uh, it was his last rack mount. I will see. But I was thinking that for a while, but then he's far away from it on his other high hat and it's happening again. So I was thinking maybe it's an overhead, but I also discovered it was gated because there was a time where like, if he hit the toms and do a, do a crescendo. Yeah. Yeah.
00:53:19
Speaker
Yeah, it wouldn't, it wouldn't happen right away. So I, it could still be a rack Tom Mike, like you're saying, but something there was rattling and it was the entire show and I was a fucking aggravated by like I, and I couldn't not hear it. I could be blocking out. Yeah. Yeah. It was awful. It was,
00:53:44
Speaker
I was paying attention to other things, but every time I heard it, it dragged me out of the concert experience. And it's like, is that not something that you, as a drum tech, you hear that and you're like, Hey, maybe we should fix this. Communicate that to the, I don't know. And at no point did anyone try to fix it. They were, they were just, they accepted it. Yeah. It seemed like, you know, this,
00:54:09
Speaker
and it was oh it was just so annoying and the only thing that could have made it worse if i was not on the balcony and that fucking crowd surfer came over me oh man oh yeah i don't know how close you were watching the crowd but towards the end of the set
00:54:27
Speaker
They had a single crowd surfer. And this long time listeners know that this is one of my biggest pet peeves. I hate crowd surfers, especially because no
Post-Concert Reflections and Missed Connections
00:54:41
Speaker
one does it right. I've seen two people do it right ever. And what you have to do is go flat like and just be like Jesus and be
00:54:51
Speaker
Sorry, I know it's Passover season. He did Passover too. Oh, good point. Yeah. Get yourself flat. Get handed to the front of the stage. That's how you crowd surf. You don't flail like an idiot because then
00:55:14
Speaker
You're hitting people, your ass gets heavy, people can't hold you because they can't distribute your weight, you kick people in the head, and then you end up on the security guy at some awkward angle who's helping you out, and then these assholes run to the back and do it again.
00:55:35
Speaker
I like every time a crowd surfer falls, I do not feel bad for them at all. So. So I saw the crowd surfer and then I saw some drunk guy taller than everyone else. You know, he wasn't he wasn't fat, but he was.
00:55:55
Speaker
Um, he was like, uh, wide lean. Yeah. He was, there was a lot of him. All right. Maybe. So I saw him cross the mosh pit.
00:56:11
Speaker
and try to get up on some guy. Oh no. Oh no. Who wasn't having it. So he tried to get up in the guys like, Hey, what the fuck? And then, um, drunk guy like falls back, tries again.
00:56:27
Speaker
And the guy wasn't having it turned around and shoved him. And then he started coming back at him. The big guy got shoved again and then stumbled his way through the mosh pit and then like pouted at the back of the mind. And like from the balcony, I was watching this whole thing.
00:56:47
Speaker
And like he ran into people in the mosh pit like not moshing but like violently drunkedly And I was like this guy's gonna get kicked out is gonna be awesome, but unfortunately he was not kicked out He was not kicked out nothing escalated He stood in the back and moped for the rest of the show now mosh pit
00:57:07
Speaker
I have never, they did a mosh pit during- They did multiple mosh pits. Yeah, but they did it during one of the acoustic songs. Yeah. It was the slowest mosh pit ever. I did not catch that, but I did notice and take footage of a couple of others. Yeah. I noticed
00:57:27
Speaker
This is more a comment on the fans and whether they're there because they like Blind Guardian or because they think they should like Blind Guardian. Night Demon's Mosh Pit was a proper circle pit. Blind Guardian's Mosh Pit was ruined by idiots just going straight through it. No, no, you're not doing it right.
00:57:52
Speaker
You're being an asshole. But at least no one was flailing, you know, doing the... Yeah. Oh, yes. They're crime killers. Yes. So, yeah, that's my old man. Stand there and listen to the band, you know?
00:58:10
Speaker
Everyone should be there trying to count the tempo with me. That's right. Why aren't you taking notes in your show journal? Glaring at the sound guy for the buzzy microphone or whatever it was. I did notice that Tim was... Well, they meant to turn up some fucking guitar. Go ahead. Tim was assiduously filling out his setlist.fm at the show.
00:58:36
Speaker
Oh yeah, if you look at it, I'm like 13 of the edits because I was... They'd start a song and type it in and save it. Good man. So as it went, it would populate. Yeah. I didn't have to guess what those songs were because by note four Jim was like... That's him. Yeah, everything but the songs off the God machine. No, I figured those out. Yeah, there's a lot of Googling too.
00:59:06
Speaker
Okay. I was the sixth person to say I was there. Oh, I was the first or second. I was not. No, no, no. I wasn't the first. I was the second or third. Wow. 11 people were there.
00:59:22
Speaker
Holy shit. Yeah. And then, uh, after the show, I did, I disappeared. I, uh, got in my car and listened to, um, Metallica's garage days. We revisited. All right. All right. That seems, seems fair.
00:59:52
Speaker
Yeah. I was, again, not only was I there with my very pregnant wife, I was there with my half as pregnant sister, I guess. So in the interest of getting them both home, well, like Michelle's going to get... Isn't that a binary thing though? Aren't you either pregnant or not? Yeah, that's fair. I'm going to be sort of... No, I just mean in terms of duration. Oh, ripeness. Okay. Yeah. Yeah.
01:00:19
Speaker
Nine months versus 4.5 months. How soon they are to that? Indeed. You meant to make a pop, but you hit the microphone. That didn't work. Did that work? There you go. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's some good audio right there. This is what the people do it for. You're welcome. I was hoping to find Greg because I wanted to get another picture because it
01:00:48
Speaker
Last night, or last night, the Blind Guardian show would have been, I think, the first time in years that he and my sister and I were in the same place at the same time, and I wanted to recreate the
Future Podcast Ideas: Reviewing Reviews?
01:00:59
Speaker
Spencer window. Oh yeah, you agreed. That's right. Revisited, re-revisited. Well, I talked to Greg after that, and he said, why did Dave send me this picture from years ago? I thought the Blind Guardian... With no explanation. I thought that would be enough. I'll text him again and explain it.
01:01:16
Speaker
Well, you have to remember he works the midnight shift. I can text him now. Text him right now. Yes, you can. But I didn't spot Greg and I didn't spot you guys. So we just ended up going to the car, paying our very affordable parking rate and going home. Hey, you know, what's not great audio is messing with your mic stand. Oh, I'm sorry. You're even now.
01:01:42
Speaker
All right. Well, uh, any, any closing, uh, it's a metal podcast. We always rate stuff. Let's rate the concert zero to 10. Good point. 10 being the best concert ever. Ever. Uh, I'll give it a solid five. It's pretty fine. Okay. Yeah. I'm glad I went.
01:02:10
Speaker
but also glad I forgot that I paid. Yeah, I did buy tickets way in advance, so I don't even know how much the cost was, which reminds me, if you looked at Phil Morris' website, it said, blind guardian, metal, right? And then scroll down a little bit, dying fetus, rock. Yeah, I was confused by that, too.
01:02:42
Speaker
And Power Wolf somehow, tickets for that are $71 plus fees. Holy wow. Dickus. Why do people like... That show should be $18 without fees. But it's the Fillmore. It's the Fillmore that's doing it. Blind Guardian, when they played the Norva and the show in Charlotte, tickets were like $22.
01:03:07
Speaker
Now you're talking, right? Yeah. Well, go travel for shows. Well, uh, Judas priest. I don't think I'll be going because tickets are over $200 crazy, but, uh, they played Sunday in, uh, Reading, Pennsylvania, and they were like $40 and I was going to go, but instead I won a hockey championship. So yay.
01:03:40
Speaker
really playing in DC or Balmer. I imagine they're playing national harbor MGM. Oh, of course. Then that's why it's that expensive. We could do nothing. Nothing near Fort DuPont should cost that much. No, but it's MGM. And I know. Oh my God. Let him tell you.
01:04:00
Speaker
They have a Bojangles, nothing, nothing within. They barely have a Bojangles. A Bojangles should cost more than Bojangles. Look, I took Michelle home from a conference at the Gaylord and she was like, I want Bojangles. So we went to the Bojangles, navigated to it. There's nothing wrong with Bojangles, I'm just saying. No, it's great. Except it was fucking closed. Oh, well, that's some bullshit. I'm looking for it up. Did you try going to Largo?
01:04:29
Speaker
No, she was just angry, so I took her home. I don't blame her. I was angry, too. You were the Bojangles. A little call me, a little call me. OK. OK. I will give the Blind Guardian concert.
01:04:46
Speaker
an 8.5 minus a four point penalty for the shitty ass sound. And that is entirely one person's fault. So my score is higher than yours actually. Yes, I know. I'm aware.
01:05:05
Speaker
Because I don't care what the shows sound like, actually, because I'm just listening to these songs in my head while watching the guys on stage play them. Like, what are they playing? And then you put it in your earphones so you can hear the album versions. It's just on the perpetual jukebox in my mind. I'm going to give this an 8.6. Wow. Dave is also too busy trying to look for their hotel key cards to figure out where he's going next.
01:05:36
Speaker
There's five double trees nearby. Oh, shit. I think that says Courtyard Marriott. I mean, look, I've done extensive research into their favorite types of food in hopes of running into them at a restaurant, but to no avail. Well, they weren't at the Vietnamese place. I can tell you that. They posted dinner 45 minutes ago. They're probably pooping now.
01:06:04
Speaker
What? Hey, what was your score, Dave? It was 8.6. Well, that's like my original score, mine without the without the sound penalty. So I think I think we have proven once again how completely objective we are fully adjusted it to.
01:06:23
Speaker
For everybody out there, this ranks were comparatively low on the scale of Blind Guardian shows I've seen. 8.6 is like... Is the lowest possible Blind Guardian. Not lowest possible, but lowest experienced. Like, their Halloween show where they dressed up like jesters and like never, never took their masks off at all. They were just in jester masks for the entire show. And Hansi came out dressed up like Elvis.
01:06:54
Speaker
I'm not kidding. That's a 10, right? You open with War of Wrath, Into the Storm, and you guys are all in Halloween costumes, and Hansi is dressed as Elvis, and you do a barber in encore. That's a 10 out of 10 blind guardian show. Bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop.
01:07:19
Speaker
All right, well, until next time, Metal Nation, sign our petition to get their sound guy replaced with someone competent. Hey, Tyga, wake up.
01:07:47
Speaker
What you're hearing is about the most metal you will be hearing because this is a talk podcast about metal. Metal, no, no, no, it's music commentary. It's your favorite metal talk cast.
01:08:00
Speaker
Yeah, we recently changed providers and I had to like distributors, I mean, and I had to put in like all the meta stuff again. And there's a music commentary category. Technically, that's what we are. You know, we need to do we need to expand into music commentary commentary where we comment on, you know, like we review music commentary and
01:08:24
Speaker
I would be perfectly on brand. So like the way we review metal, review, lemon metal promos. Yeah, exactly. We should review metal reviews next. Oh yeah. This is going to keep us going for at least the next five years. Yeah. And then like we could wait a little bit and then review our own reviews of reviews. Wow.
01:08:44
Speaker
It's the podcast after the podcast. And given the fact that we've got such a large pool of rotating members of the pod, we could easily have the people who didn't do the review but are still affiliated with podcast them down review the old reviews that podcast them down did. That way we can maintain our subjectivity. Which is the most important thing. Objectivity. Whatever.
01:09:12
Speaker
Yeah, it's the same thing.