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Lost In The Chainsaw Man

Lost In The Frame
Lost In The Frame

21 plays · Aug 18, 2026

We're switching it up a bit this week and reviewing a show (and a movie). Chainsaw Man S1 + Reze Arc is here, give it a listen! Follow us on our socials: Letterboxd [https://letterboxd.com/lostintheframe/] Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/lostintheframepod/?] Tiktok [https://www.tiktok.com/@lost.in.the.frame?_t=zp-8verfnvafee&_r=1] Youtube [https://www.youtube.com/@LostInTheFramePod]

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Speaker: Do you know the movie The Big Lebowski? It really made me think, what even was that when I finished watching it? Nothing was resolved, and wasn't everything pretty meaningless? But even so, the protagonist still developed, and the story still moved forward.

Speaker: There was a sublime absurdity to it that I loved. I want Chainsaw Man to leave readers with that same kind of aftertaste. That is a direct quote from the author of Chainsaw Man, Tatsuki Fujimoto. And...

Speaker: There are so many elements of Chainsaw Man that make you feel like that. And I wonder. Did did you guys feel that at all so far? After season one and the movie.

Speaker: Yeah. that it in the frame Welcome to the host frame. I forgot about the actual intro part. Just really opening cold.

Speaker: I'm your host Malik. I'm your host, Achi, I guess. That's even important at this point. I'm sorry. Tachi's so excited to talk about Chainsaw Man. He just immediately steamrolled into it. Screw this. I mean, he deleted all of our movie news.

Speaker: No rapid review. I just skipped four segments. just went I'm sorry, guys. It's all gone. Every show note has been deleted right before our eyes. is This is what happens when we do our first our first TV show on this on this podcast. Maybe that's what it is.

Speaker: It's throwing me off. i'm a little I'm a little nervous. i am too. don like I don't know why, but this was ah there's this was a ah hefty task, I feel. And um one that was long overdue for me that I know you've been waiting for, Tachi.

Speaker: It has been a long while. And I'm glad we finally got here. think there's a lot to cover. Yeah. But first, how you guys doing? I'm good. I'm excited.

Speaker: I'm animated as well. nice I'm excited. I'm excited. i yeah feel like it's very rarely that I really get to let out the weeb side of me. So um today's going to be very eye-opening for a lot of my friends.

Speaker: um Respect will be lost, but I'm here for it. I'm living my truth. so That's what it's all about. I feel like I'm not even too aware of your weebenings, if you will.

Speaker: I will. You literally sat with me and watched me watch Attack on Titan. Yeah, but that's Attack on Titan. I feel like that's so surface. I feel like there's a deeper well of weeb within you that that we may be seeing for the first time.

Speaker: I'm ready to unlock it. Throw away the the lock and the key.

Speaker: Let it out forever. Do you guys have any rapid reviews this week? Yes. yeah Okay. I don't because all I've been doing is watching Chainsaw Man season one in the movie the last three days.

Speaker: Yeah, bro. And that's your problem. You have so many opportunities to watch this and not wait till the last minute and you just didn't. What's crazy is i remember when this show was coming out I thought it was last year or two years ago. It was 2022. And I was like, damn, i want to watch that. I need to watch that. 2022. You know what's crazy?

Speaker: What? youve That you've been saying it? No, you showed me the trailer first. I did? Yes. So I started reading it and then you just never started until now. Wow.

Speaker: the the The craziest bit is i remember we were all in theaters together and I can't remember what movie it was for what was it When did this come out? When did the movie come out? twenty two The movie came out last year.

Speaker: Last year? Yeah, 2025. Yeah. I don't even remember what we were in theaters for, but it played before the movie. And i just remember sitting and thinking. something It was perfect blue.

Speaker: It was perfect blue. It was yeah perfect blue. I just remember the the trailer for the movie playing, the one that we're going to review today, ah Chainsaw Man the movie, if you hadn't guessed that.

Speaker: um And I remember thinking, wow, it looks really sick. I should catch up.

Speaker: Knowing that it was 12 episodes and then just didn't. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker: I will say after the last couple of days and watching the 12 episodes, I was like, that was extremely easy. um And I could have done this forever ago.

Speaker: Well, better late than never. Yeah. so he um I'll throw it to you guys for your rapid review since I don't have one, though. Sure.

Speaker: Are we going to talk about Samurai and the Prisoner? Oh, yeah, we did see that.

Speaker: we go ahead We did go and see that. um This wasn't even the rapid review I had picked out. Oh, my God.

Speaker: Tachi and I went and saw The Samurai and the Prisoner at Austin Film Society. ah Richard Linklater's brick and mortar cinema in North Austin.

Speaker: Bought a hat for eight bucks. Support your local art house theaters. Good hat. It is a pretty good hat. It's actually pretty comfy. um And so we went and saw this on Sunday night.

Speaker: It is two and a half hours. um And my reaction walking away from that movie was, wow, that was really weird.

Speaker: um in a good way though like i yes i never was not intrigued by it um do you know anything about it like no just that it's uh about it yeah zero um so i'm trying to i don't want to spoil too much for you because i do think it's absolutely worth the time it's worth the watch i There were a couple of things my immediate reaction to was I didn't like about it.

Speaker: um I thought things resolved a little too quickly in some instances. However, the more I get away from this movie, the more I'm thinking about, okay, what what was it really about?

Speaker: Like, what was the actual story here? Because it's kind of like an anthology almost. There's like four separate episodes within the movie. It's kind of like yeah that's a really good way to describe it and things kind of just happen but the way the movie ends you're like like what it's a jarring yeah but the whole car ride home thinking about i'm like hmm what did he mean by this and i'm still chewing on that fat what about you tachi

Speaker: Yeah, this movie is peculiar. i will so I'll highlight my negatives first as well. I could really feel the runtime.

Speaker: But on the other hand, I didn't really want to look away. It's just one of those movies where it's... It's crafted with so much care. Like the set pieces are incredible.

Speaker: the The lighting is great. The camera work is great. um and And some of the action sequences are are pretty, pretty great to watch as well.

Speaker: But it's it's strange. It's like, ah it's just a really strangely told story. and

Speaker: I don't know. I don't know. it It doesn't feel like something that has like a universal takeaway. It's just whatever you take from Okay. It's very... like if You've seen Cloud or Cure.

Speaker: Yeah. and So if you've seen Cloud as well, like this is my fourth Kiyoshi Kurosawa movie. And I'm starting to like get the vibe, right? He's Hitchcockian in a sense, but there's something else going on.

Speaker: which I'm starting to really like and appreciate. um i don't even know if I have a rating for it yet. My heart says a very, very high 7 out of 10.

Speaker: So, like, it's the brand new day can end from.

Speaker: I landed on a 4. I did feel like I had to round up a little bit.

Speaker: Yeah. I still don't know the 4. Okay. I hope I don't miss it in theaters. It is interesting, and I think you should watch it, for sure. Okay. right, well, i mean think you should watch it, Mr. or Mrs. Listener.

Speaker: Exactly.

Speaker: Awesome. um Any other movies that you guys want to discuss before we get into season 13? Yeah. My original rapid review was 1987's Walker, directed by Alex Cox. Here's the plot.

Speaker: Before Rambo, before Oliver North, William Walker and his mercenary corps enter Nicaragua in the middle of the 19th century in order to install a new government by coup d'etat, starring Ed Harris.

Speaker: This movie is the ultimate land you in director jail movie.

Speaker: I have never, I don't know how Alex Cox snuck this past Universal. He did, and it practically ended his career from what I can tell.

Speaker: hu This is a ah very, very, very on-the-nose satire of a true story about a group of mercenaries who went to Nicaragua um in the 1800s on the behest of Cornelius Vanderbilt to overthrow the government and make like a pro-America democracy down there.

Speaker: It's so on the nose. It's really funny. It's kind of weird. This movie was made in the 80s, so this is Ronald Reagan era, in conjunction with the government of Nicaragua, which were the Sandinistas.

Speaker: ah The Sandinistas were the... God, and I hope I get this right, and I don't come off as a fool. The Sandinistas were the government... or the the political faction opposed to the Contras of the Iran-Contra affair.

Speaker: This is like making a movie with, ah like in terms of political weight, not in terms of like ideology or anything. This is like me going to Tehran and making a movie in Tehran with the IRGC making fun of Trump.

Speaker: Hmm. Okay. so It's so weird. It's immaculately shot. And the soundtrack, let me tell you about the soundtrack, uh, composed and scored by Joe Strummer of the clash.

Speaker: Uh, he's the lead singer on songs like, uh, rock the Casbah police on my back. Um, you know he's cause there's multiple singers in the clash. Mick Jones saying, uh, songs like train in vain.

Speaker: should I stay or should I go? Paul Simonon saying, you know guns at Brixton. but tro Joe Strummer is is one of the you members of the Clash. He scores this, um and it sounds very reminiscent to my favorite Clash album, Sandinista, which, you know, ironic, right? Yeah. um So very, like, island time, but kind of weird soundtrack vibes, a lot of lot of saxophones, you know, kind of old reggae, and it's just i an hour and 30 minutes.

Speaker: And you should see it for the last 10 minutes alone. It's alright so weird and pretty, pretty poignant. I would say with with the times going on right now, I'd give it a seven out of 10.

Speaker: i would like to rewatch it probably in a few months. I was really out of it when I watched it. I'm very tired. I kind of didn't realize it till the end of the movie that I was like, Hmm, maybe I should have watched something dumber,

Speaker: but that's what I had today. Nice. How'd you watch it? It was like Criterion channel. Okay, cool. Yeah. All right. Sounds good. Well, then I think we should get into Chainsaw Man with all that being said. Should pull the cord and fire up?

Speaker: Great sound design. I'm going to just go write it and write out right ahead and say it um So we are discussing today the entirety of a Chainsaw Man. That is season one and the movie Reze Arc.

Speaker: This is... This episode idea is coming from Tachi, our resident anime man, if I may say so myself. ah So T-Money. Sure. Tell us about your relationship with Chainsaw Man. Why do you want us to do this episode specifically?

Speaker: Give us the lowdown. Sure. Chainsaw Man, I just find to just be kind of interesting from most angles. It's it's not like your typical...

Speaker: like shonen anime like um naruto or bleach or you know one of those there will be no bleak slander on today's episode i'm just gonna tell you right now bro loves bleach that's fine with me i like bleach um but really it's just just something i kind of want to share and experience with with you guys and um

Speaker: Yeah, I have read the entire story. the manga ended pretty recently. was either this year or last year. um And kind of the structure of the whole story is it's broken into two parts.

Speaker: And kind of like how I outlined in my intro, there's there is an ending, and it's strange. Okay.

Speaker: But as far as my relationship with it, I do really like the story. I have my own problems with it. I think a lot of the readers can relate to it as well. and um But along the way, there are just, I don't know, fun times.

Speaker: I'll just put it that way. There's definitely a journey with season one. There's what? There's definitely like a journey in season one, and I'm curious how that kind of shakes out for the rest of the manga. So the manga, so there's only two parts to this story?

Speaker: Is that correct? Yeah. Okay, and then season one is... Is season one part of part one, or is that part one in its entirety?

Speaker: it's It's like the first third or so, part one. Okay. so So realistically, there would be four seasons total that covers two parts. If you had to like chop it up into even pieces, is that kind of what it would shake out to?

Speaker: Okay. Sorry, go ahead and go ahead and finish her.

Speaker: I don't know if I had anything else. Okay, cool. ah That was my main question. So where does the... Where does the Reze arc, is it Reze? Sure. or All right. Where does the Reze arc kind of come into this? I'm like, I was curious, especially after watching the movie, like where it sits in, in the manga.

Speaker: It's just like right after season one. Okay. So it's just like how it picks up. Yeah. It's kind of encapsulated by, sandwiched between seasons one and probably two.

Speaker: Okay. So it's, it's just kind of linear from when it was written. So this will be a very spoiler heavy discussion, not for the manga, but for season one of chainsaw man in the movie. So if you've not seen season one in its entirety or the movie, don't listen. Cause we'll probably be jumping all over the place.

Speaker: Um, I'm, Pretty positive we won't be spoiling the manga at all, considering Alex or I have not read it, though Alex may have caught a stray or two before our recording. I pulled a list of characters, and I saw someone somewhere that didn't make sense, and then someone clicked, and I was like,

Speaker: It's still in our it's still in our chat and the the application we use to record this. Malik, do not open that chat. I can. There's a little text bubble at the bottom right of the screen and it has the number three. So I've unread messages and I want to click it so bad, but I will not.

Speaker: I'll resist. I'll give a quick synopsis on Chainsaw Man. don't think we've done that yet, but here goes. Denji, it's a story about a young man named Denji. He shares his life with Pochita, a chainsaw devil.

Speaker: who kind of looks like a dog. He's forced to survive by killing devils and selling their parts to pay off a debt that he inherited from his father, um from the Yakuza.

Speaker: And he he works with an organization called the ah Public Safety. think it's Public Safety. And they're just a bunch of devil hunters.

Speaker: That is a synopsis of the show. So there are 12 episodes in season one. So I figured we could kind of break it down into four different groups, give a summarization of like episodes one through three, four through six, seven through nine, ten through twelve, and talk about them like that. Does that sound like a plan for you guys?

Speaker: Sure. Sure. Okay. Alex, i know you watched this like a month ago. So you may not remember. I have, I wrote little summaries, like two, three sentence and summaries as I was watching the show for each episode for this. So okay episode one is basically the synopsis. Like, like Tachi just said, we get the introduction, uh, to Denji and his chainsaw devil dog, uh, Pochita.

Speaker: Um, What are your guys' thoughts on Pochita? Let's cover him first. He's so cute. He's the cutest little guy. He really cute. That's not what I expected at all from Chainsaw Devil Dog. Not at all. Especially considering the other devils in the show.

Speaker: Yeah. It's like, what's going on here? He's very much an ally. It's probably a manga spoiler. going to say a lot of stuff where I'm going to be like, what's going on here? And then Tashi, I know, is going sitting thinking like,

Speaker: Just, just, I have forgotten a lot, but there, yeah, I'll, I'll be having those thoughts. I'm sure. Um, yeah. First episode is, is basically just that, that introduction. Uh, yeah, he's working for the Yakuza to work down his, the, the debt that his father left.

Speaker: Um, And pretty quickly, the action takes off um with the Yakuza turning on Denji, which i'm ah I'm still a little confused on.

Speaker: So I will probably have a lot of questions throughout this because there are a lot of questions I had during the show, and I hope they can be answered without spoilers. But I'm a little confused. What was the Yakuza's goal in making a deal with that other devil and wanting Denji out of the picture? Yeah, the zombie devil.

Speaker: If I remember correctly, and this is not a spoiler for the manga, um throughout throughout the season, we see interactions with devils and devil hunters working with devils um to satisfy another devil, the gun devil, who is seemingly put out like a hit on Pochita.

Speaker: Yes. So I think the Yakuza were working with ah the zombie devil. Yep. And the zombie devil, i can I think we can safely assume, was given the same directive to kill Denji to get his heart. Okay.

Speaker: okay Well, Denji hadn't been melded yet because the Yakuza, what causes Pachita to meld with Denji was he just straight up gets slimed. Oh, that's right. Yeah.

Speaker: it was that that's I guess that's my question. Was that because he had Pachita? Because he had him and it was like, we need to get him out of the way. Got it. Okay. Okay. That makes sense. Yeah. So yeah, they do.

Speaker: They do slime Denji. Dude's dead and sliced to In the first episode. Yeah. was like, oh shit. And but then this cut this caught me completely off guard, but like Pachita and Denji's body are thrown away into a garbage can and we get a flashback.

Speaker: Talking about... it was a conversation between Denji and Pachita. they're there're They only have each other, basically. Denji literally lives in like a shed. Yeah. And he's never been to school. He's never like interacted with another human being on like a normal level.

Speaker: I don't know what this what was going on with this dude's dad that this was his reality. But I mean... Denji acts pretty much like ah like a feral middle schooler who's never been around people before the entire time.

Speaker: Yes. Both show and movie. This is kind of why. Yeah, he was not raised properly by any means. Why are his teeth sharp?

Speaker: Why that boy have sharp teeth? I don't know slash can't say. Oh, be because power has sharp teeth too. Yeah, that was, that was the first thing I noticed. First off, I was just like, yeah, why is why we got shark boy here? Everyone else has normal teeth and then power comes along and I'm like, Hmm, but we'll get to power. basic So they have a, a flashback to dungeon, but cheetah,

Speaker: i don't I forget exactly what they're talking about, but basically Pachita fuses with Denji, gives him his his heart, which gives Denji another chance at life and also turns him into the titular Chainsaw Man. And I was like, one, you have me emotional and crying, episode one.

Speaker: That was the sweetest thing I've ever seen in my life. Two. The deal he makes, too, is so sweet. It's like, just live your dream and let me watch or something. Yeah, yeah. I think when they said that, I was like,

Speaker: we're I'm 15 minutes into the show. I'm already a mess. um Two, really cool way to get your powers. Yep. Agreed.

Speaker: Pachita's tail is basically the trigger that now sits outside of Denji's chest to pull that and become chainsaw man. Yeah. Because the first time I saw the trailer, I was like, how does he be a chainsaw man?

Speaker: How do he be doing that? um But what are you guys feeling after episode one? like Are you excited to get into the rest of the show? like Where are you thinking the show's going to go? What are your expectations basically for the rest of the series?

Speaker: At that point, I had no idea. i was literally just... I texted y'all. like, wow, he really is a chainsaw man. That's like when I sent that text. Yeah.

Speaker: He turns in. I'm like, I have no idea where this is going to go because I don't even think at that point... Public safety had been introduced. Don't we get introduced at the end of episode two?

Speaker: Because like I think Denji dies at the end of episode one and episode two is when they Maki must shows up with the other two. Makima shows up, but you don't know who she is or like what she represents.

Speaker: Yeah, he does he does die and become Chainsaw Man in episode one, and then at the beginning of episode two, we find out who public health is. Public health? Public safety? Safety, yeah. public say Who public safety is.

Speaker: It's basically all in the same like four minutes. It's just one episode to another. Yeah. I just realized ah RFK would probably run public safety. As a devil hunter? Who do you think his devil would be?

Speaker: Well, I mean, judging by his voice, it's the 20-pack-a-day devil. Maybe the vaccine devil.

Speaker: The anti-vax devil. I will ask you guys later. Herbal remedies devil. and We'll ask you guys later who you'd want your devil to be and and what you'd give up for that.

Speaker: um Episode two and three kind of blend blended a bit together for me. in Episode two, i had like a one sentence thing. We get the introduction to Makima and Aki.

Speaker: I'll say right now, is my favorite character. I love that dude. He's a good one. And I think it's going to be tragic. when it happens that's all i'll say it is tragic don't tell me that yeah obviously like the future devil says it in like episode six or seven when he gets that second contract well he doesn't he doesn't he doesn't say tragic he specifically says you die fucking cool or like like in a fucking amazing way he's like you want to know yeah He says the fucking worst way.

Speaker: Oh, i thought I thought he was like, it's like sick, like the way he died. Like, hell yeah. Like he goes out with like a motorcycle, like flipping through the air on ah on a flip or something like that.

Speaker: um And then we get to the... don't even know how to describe Denji now. His goals. Tachi, tell us about his goals.

Speaker: His goals? So Denji's a...

Speaker: pretty complicated character outside of his his desires and his primary desire really uh i mean a better better way to say it is physical affection physical touch i like that that's his love language is physical touch yeah i want to call that love Or a language. It's like a hunger. but and so know better Insatiable.

Speaker: how What was that?

Speaker: I just wanted to... What did you guys think Denji at this point? I don't think I was a fan. oh I was not. I was honestly like, if he doesn't shape up quick, I'm not going to enjoy this. that's That's where I was too.

Speaker: Because, God, he's so grating. Even in the movie, he's kind of grating at points. You're just like, bro, act normal. Like, I'm begging you.

Speaker: Yeah. I think the rewatch is pretty interesting. It kind of cements what I think is one of the most central themes is that it's surrounded by a trauma.

Speaker: and how healing from trauma, like his entire life up to this point, or his entire life, not even up to this point, because it just is still terrible. um It's just that the healing process is very much nonlinear. And I think that draws a ah good parallel to like addiction recovery or, you know, whatever it is, like his addiction is wanting to touch boobs, you know?

Speaker: So. Isn't it all of ours? ah My parents do listen to this. We're talking about the actual anime. This happens in the anime.

Speaker: i I hear that. I just don't think I align with um a sex-crazed 16-year-old. So it made, it made i think, the like the want of wanting to see him and like better himself a little bit difficult throughout the series and the movie. Because, yeah, like Alex said, I'm just like, bro, lock in, please. Yeah.

Speaker: But the moment he does lock he does lock in. Yeah. But like personality wise, i'm like, please, please keep this up

Speaker: He's like that guy that you're like, no, he can sit at lunch with us. He's kind of cool. He's cool. He's fine. He's fine. Yeah. They just something weird. You're like, I could not keep defending you, dude. like Please stop.

Speaker: To be fair, he still has yet to have a moral compass. He has no one really to look up to. And he's just trying to figure things out.

Speaker: on his own and like learn how to be a functioning person in society now that he actually has food and a home and a bed and things like that yeah i'm not um i'm not anime proficient i've only seen like the basic ones so i can't consider myself like ah an anime fan by any means but it To me, it just felt like the the classic, tropey, stereotypical anime boob thing.

Speaker: but i'm like ah where i'm like i just I didn't think that's what I was going to get from this show. like Everything you're saying, I think, makes sense. And for like YouTube comments that I go through of people talking about Chainsaw Man, talking about Denji, because they just wanted to kind of get a gauge on how people felt about him, they're typically aligned like with where with where you're at, Tachi, with...

Speaker: like who he is as a person and it all makes sense to me but I think for me I was just like god damn it like I thought I didn't know we were gonna go here like it happens in in Demon Slayer 2 but it all but it doesn't happen until like I think season 2 or 3 specifically the boobs but when it did I was yeah that's season I will It's two and three, actually.

Speaker: Yeah. I will say, Tachi, mean, you're you're talking with hindsight of how the story ends and where his arc goes. Yeah. Malik and I are, like, experiencing this raw in real time.

Speaker: So we're still on the uptick of the arc. But you are right. I mean, he is still trying to figure out how to be functional. And even then, everyone who's around him is also just a mess in their own way. Yeah, exactly. Especially his roommates.

Speaker: Yep. And we do meet power in episode three, who is a fiend. Can one of you explain to fiend? Cause it's a little confusing for me. It's someone who melds with the devil, but like.

Speaker: It's still kind of their own person. met They meld with the devil? In a way. is it Honestly, I'm confused too. Yeah. like I want to say by definition, Denji is a fiend.

Speaker: It seems that way. But they never call him that. So I don't yeah know. Yeah, he's never addressed as a fiend. And my understanding was that they were like a powered down devil somehow. like Like they were this big powerful devil.

Speaker: But then something happened to kind of tame them a bit it's a bit. It's a bit fuzzy for me, but we meet Power, who is the blood fiend. So we can just think of a fiend as like a hybrid, like Denji, even though they never address him as such.

Speaker: can manipulate her own blood to like form into an axe or a hammer or something. Sick as hell. Yeah. And so she tells him a sad story about a cat, about a cat that she had and how she only cared about this cat, but basically it tricks him.

Speaker: Yeah. Meowie basically tricks him. They go off campus to, and she takes him to the bat devil who was holding her cat hostage. And he wanted the taste of human flesh in order for her to get her cat back.

Speaker: This is our first, besides the zombie devil, because he's kind of in the shadows a bit. This is our first, like, I'm in the daytime, big devil thing. What do you guys think of his, like, character design as a whole? and i thought it was so sick. He's in the farmhouse, and he's so, like, big and ugly. I'm like, this is what I signed up for. Yeah.

Speaker: I signed up to watch these things fight, duke it out. I love the design of the devils. I think they're so cool. They are really cool. They all bang. Yeah, that's one of my favorite parts of the show for sure.

Speaker: um I am getting at this point like Jujutsu Kaisen vibes, which i don't know if that's too far off or if people like make that comparison normally. There's a lot that differentiates it for sure, but I'm like, there's a lot of base level things where i'm like, oh, okay, well.

Speaker: I'm getting Jujutsu Kaisen vibes. Guy who's a who's always seen Jujutsu Kaisen. Who hasn't even finished it or caught up. That's true. So I'm just hating.

Speaker: Hating from outside the club. um okay Anyway, yeah. that Bat Devil looks really cool. um They end up fighting Denji. I think this is his first real big devil fight.

Speaker: ah Bat Devil's girlfriend comes out. What devil was that? The leech devil. Freaky ad devil. that There's a lot of freaky ad devils here.

Speaker: um that She was the leech devil, worm devil, whatever. It just... super freaky i'd be straight yeah there's a lot of freakiness and there's a lot of freaked outness in this show is what i will say but this is like the first time we start getting like intense fight sequences and choreography um and i am a fan of all of the fights in this show like That's some real good shit right there.

Speaker: Yeah. Hell yeah. How do you guys feel about CGI in animes like this? i I don't love it, but I've had to resign myself to the fact that's just how they're making animated shows nowadays. I mean, I am the biggest Invincible fan on this podcast, and...

Speaker: You got to make some excuses for Invincibles animation sometimes. You really, really. It has, I'll say this last season's really improved with some of the just like the aura moments, but you see, especially the first season too, it's really noticeable the amount of CGI in it.

Speaker: And so I was picking it out in this, in Chainsaw Man 2. I was like, aww. If had to make a gripe that isn't really about the quality of Invincible, it's just that it's not really an adaptation. It's just like print to screen.

Speaker: It doesn't feel like they're making it its own thing. You know what mean? ah i was and That's another conversation. We'll get into that at a later point. That's fine. I i agree and disagree.

Speaker: cause there are a lot of big, or not a lot of big changes, but like the way some stuff has gone about, like, I guess Robert Kirkman is redoing a lot of things. So. Hmm.

Speaker: We can talk about that another time. Maybe we'll do an Invincible episode. Sure. How does that, if we can have like a little bit of that conversation in regards to Chainsaw Man, like what is It's just not possible. it's ah It's about the story for Invincible. Oh, okay. Well, because I always hear like people still compare like mangas with animes and being unhappy with...

Speaker: certain changes. The only experience I have is reading like the last few chapters of Attack on Titan before the final season came out just because like I couldn't wait. And it did feel like it was kind of just like book to screen, which was totally perfectly fine with me.

Speaker: So I just assumed that was kind of the case for all anime adaptations like this. is Am I mistaken? Are there usually um big changes between... i I agree with you. I'm pretty cool with it My only experience with it is um Berserk, the 98 adaptation of the Golden Age arc.

Speaker: There is a lot that they drop from there, especially with the eclipse, like things that happen during the eclipse. And like you're missing pretty key characters. So it's like if they ever kept the thing going, it would have gotten pretty weird pretty quick.

Speaker: Mm-hmm. But I think standing alone, i think the Berserk, that one season that we got is fantastic in its own right. And I've read the whole manga like up to what's been released. so you know And the Golden Age arc is fantastic in the manga as well. So I i don't think it detracts.

Speaker: i just do I do think that there's some details that will always be. It's like hard to adapt for a show format. Yeah. you flashbacks, extra characters, things like that. it was a pretty big decision for Berserk. I don't know how it's like for Chainsaw Man between the manga and the the anime, but maybe you can comment on that, T-Money.

Speaker: i I would have to reread it to see if there are any like narrative changes But as far as like the the fight scenes go, i think MAPPA, the the animation studio, they took a lot of creative liberties with the fights and making them really fully fleshed out and fun and dynamic and really interesting and obviously way longer than how it lasts in in the manga.

Speaker: So that I think that's pretty cool. I heard that MAPPA had like plentyn like a plentiful amount of time to animate this versus I know criticisms of them in the past was on their specific animation style and being rushed through certain productions. I think Attack on Titan the final season being one of them so much so that they like re-released it I think with a bit better work being done. So apparently they had more time with Chainsaw Man and weren't on so much of a time crunch. um

Speaker: But I think this entire show is like animated beautifully. And I don't know if shot is the right word, but like it is the frame that it's call it framed. it's it's very It's framed very cinematically.

Speaker: The entire entirety of season one and the movies. like There are just shots in this that I'm like... was bro in here like with a camera?

Speaker: like Like getting experimental with it? So that's something ah that I really did appreciate of the show. It's got a great art direction. I guess you could say Mapa made us lost in the frame.

Speaker: um don't think we've ever done that.

Speaker: And then we get to the gun devil. The introduction of the gun devil. Yes. Dude, I want to see him so bad. I do too. It's so sick. I'm rooting for him. What does that mean?

Speaker: don't know. Too much aura, too cool. The aura of killing 1.2 million people in seconds? Dude, that is insane. I mean, like... Look, if if Godzilla, the analogy for a nuclear bomb, can be rehabbed, then then so can the gun devil.

Speaker: Is that kind of where they're at, what the angle they're approaching with the gun devil specifically on like... I have no clue. I'm just being difficult. That's kind of what I was thinking. like, I don't someone else's perspective on gun violence specifically with America, like in the world, is that...

Speaker: I don't know where the gun devil story is going to go or anything like that, but like immediately we cut the first time glimpse we get of the gun devil is of the different tragedies that happen, but we're also shown different news segments that are happening like in America and also throughout the world.

Speaker: So I was kind of thinking it could be their own like Godzilla atomic bomb analogy, but kind of flipped on its head with with gun violence. i don't know where you guys land on that.

Speaker: I find it kind of crazy that... the Soviet Union is a country in this world. Yeah. Like it's still around. It's big chilling. Yeah. And so like, I, I took it as like a war thing, like a gen, like a war devil.

Speaker: Okay. Guns just being like, you know, the, the most common used tool of violence because we have a bomb devil, which we'll talk about in a second, but,

Speaker: the gun debt which is the gunda If the gun devil is more powerful, I think it it's probably like, oh, it's used. like It's used for so much violence, and that's why it's so powerful. Like a regular person can get their hands on it, use it for nefarious purposes.

Speaker: Yeah. Look at Tachi just like, ah, these idiots. you're going be smug as hell this whole episode. I wish I could say more, but I just can't.

Speaker: That's okay. When it comes to your speculations. Yes. um Okay, so this was episode five. We learn of the gun devil. um Maki is... Maki? likema Makima?

Speaker: Makima. um Straight up just offers sex with Denji if he can kill the gun devil. So we learn of the gun devil. We learn, man, this guy's bad. He can kill millions of people in seconds. And then Makima's like, I believe in you so much that if you do it,

Speaker: I'll do the who you. Yeah, essentially. um What do you see in Makima? She is so... I'm so scared. That's the scariest guy I've ever seen in life.

Speaker: I went back in our chat because I remember Alex and you were watching it. You were sending some messages with the... ah oh he blu but the So i I went back and I searched Denji, Makima, all these like people just to get back into it so I knew what was going on.

Speaker: One of them, one of them we'll get to right now. Makima is scary, but she's a really interesting character. I'm so intrigued. I'm very intrigued by her. Her, like what I think what will bring come bring me back to the show whenever the new season comes out is wanting to learn more about her and then wanting to see where Aki goes as well.

Speaker: I'm,

Speaker: I'm not a Denji fan right now. Okay. He's not doing it for me. Bro hates the chainsaw man. I like the chainsaw man. i don't like the man wielding the chainsaw. I like the chainsaw, not the man.

Speaker: Is there anything you want me to confirm? no no i want nothing beyond what we've seen i just want okay opinions to be shared and smugness to be seen from here if if it leads there i'm not trying to be smug i just don't know i know it's just funny because you're just sitting there just hmm you know

Speaker: that's how i feel about denji okay it's like watching new girl and hating chess

Speaker: She's the least funny person in the show. was say, that is actually just how I watch the show. She is the worst. Some of the best bits of New Girl when she's not on the show and Megan Fox is there for some reason.

Speaker: That's actually extremely true. But it's it's the roommates that make the show. It's the supporting cast. Yes. And i think that's I think that's kind of my takeaway with this show so far. Okay.

Speaker: And also a little bit of a gripe that I had with the movie. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. But we'll get there. ah Next big part, we go to the hotel.

Speaker: Yes. du i'll leave i'll have one of I'll have you guys kind of open the hotel and your thoughts on on that two-episode sequence. Sure. Special Division 4 gets called that there's a devil in a hotel, and they go into the hotel, and it is the time loop devil. it's Eternity devil. Eternity devil. And it has them stuck in this like eternal time loop on one floor.

Speaker: They need to figure out how to get out. it my gosh. The bit where they realize that is happening is... Probably my favorite part of the show so far.

Speaker: That whole sequence, and they're like freaked out, and they're like, oh, God. Like, it's so creepy. m It's so weird. And you're just like, how are they going to get out of this one?

Speaker: How nonchalant some characters are and how freaked out others. Like it's, it's, I think done so well. It gave me a little bit Satoshi Khan vibes. you know, it's a perfect blues director or so a paprika.

Speaker: um There's like a very, very influential hallway scene in paprika, which is by inception, you know, I feel like that was an homage to paprika in some way as well. And so I really, really, really liked that bit.

Speaker: Um, and so our heroes need to get out of this situation. Yeah. I think it's one of the coolest parts of the season too. Um, everyone's freaked out.

Speaker: The little, I love the designs of all these devils. It's so cool. okay Yeah. ah Him coming out and then, he yeah, them realizing as he goes downstairs and he's, or he, yeah, he goes downstairs and he's coming back from upstairs. Like, like, didn't you just go downstairs? I'm like all right, here we go. Uh, I wish this part was longer.

Speaker: Yeah. Yeah. Could have been a whole season. They've done. right Yeah. Yeah. How'd you feel about it? Touching. I really liked it, but it really does set the stage for things to get really out of hand after the fact. But before we get there, how did you guys feel about how Denji had to take of business?

Speaker: It gave me like Dr. Strange vibes. Yeah. Oh, yeah oh yeah Dormammu, I've come to bargain. Yeah. Endlessly just slashing.

Speaker: That's when he finds out that he can drink the that he can drink blood and be okay. Okay. That was pretty sick. Yeah. um Because, I mean, i feel like there's only so many ways where you can like hack slash your way out of a thing and it not be boring.

Speaker: Like the whole 11 Stranger Things, you know, oh, I wonder if she's going to stick her hand out and scream. yeah But so far, I think they've resolved it as well as they can with it still being like, I'm going hack and slash my way out of this.

Speaker: It's like, I'm just going to make it until this guy just gives up. It's the first like deserved hack and slash. like It makes sense. like He's like, oh shit, I can do this. just drink blood and I can keep regenerating like even after I die. And I'm like, cool. I'm going to just keep going then.

Speaker: See what happens. um In the middle of all this, we also get some additional background on Himino and Aki's backstory.

Speaker: Oh, yeah. So they're partners together in Special Division 4. Himino has an eyepatch. Aki, yeah, she's the eyepatch girl. um And I really like their backstory. And immediately I'm like, okay, set me up for freaking failure.

Speaker: Get attached to one of these people and something's going to happen to someone at some point, I'm sure. helps that the ghost demon is like insanely cool. Oh, the ghost demon. Yeah. The eyes sewn together.

Speaker: I love the slow reveal of each person's contract. each person's contract. So Aki's got the fox devil.

Speaker: Cone. Nice. Nice.

Speaker: uh himino's got the ghost devil yep is that all we have right i think that's all we know right now right yes because everyone else has has the devil makima is the devil makima's just the devil well i wonder if there's the devil devil don't say anything um the demon devil no just the devil devil like there is an angel devil so there's got to be there's got to be a devil devil um they free themselves from the eternity devil and decide to have a party I forgot about the party.

Speaker: The party's pivotal point, I feel. Yeah, no, for sure. Oh, my God. Is this the bit you want to talk about?

Speaker: His first kiss, Denji's first kiss? Yeah, what I was like, I know what my favorite kiss is. but What an eventful first kiss.

Speaker: That's so nasty. Why do they blur barf, but not everything else? I think it might be like a content issue in in Japan. Okay. There are certain things that are blurred over there that's like, we're blurring this of all things?

Speaker: Yeah. I mean, the only thing not shown in this entire series was the puke. Yeah. she burie but everything yeah Out of everything else that happens, so I was like, is this like an artistic decision or is it legit censorship?

Speaker: I couldn't tell. We cannot have the youth see puke.

Speaker: um I don't think an anime has ever... had me wanting beer and and a cigarette so bad dude yeah like oh the beer looks so good it looked delicious guys just have an ice cold one with your special division after killing the eternity devil eating some barbecue yeah that's the life that sounds man how many beers do you think i want to go to japan and eat food there yeah how many beers did they drink through that night a lot they got sloshed between makima and himeno it was like

Speaker: dozens yeah a dozen or dozens between them dozen each they have a race yeah makima can hold her liquor yeah cause she's the devil For sure.

Speaker: Showing no signs of inebriation whatsoever. And everyone else is blacked out so much so that, yeah, Hamino ends up kissing Denji, um but pukes in his mouth. And they end up home together. And I was like, what is happening here?

Speaker: And then i found out... Denji is like canonically 16, by the way. Didn't know that until this part. Why... What is it with animes and 16-year-olds?

Speaker: Why can't we make them, why can't they be older?

Speaker: Why are they always kids? when Why are they always in these situations? Like, whenever she said... We're walking right up to a line that we, if we cross, we are getting deplatformed.

Speaker: You've got to be really careful with how you choose your next phrasing, Malik. It's just, it's so but it's so bothersome to me. it It's so bothersome to me. When she's like, oh, you're a minor. i was like, wait, how old is Denji?

Speaker: What other instances are you talking about, though? Because I feel like high school is just like a trope for everybody. We just watched Dace and Confuse about high schoolers. you know, ah Freaks and Geeks, high school.

Speaker: um But they too love to get freaky with high school. That's what I'm saying. By they, I mean anime. My first anime was something called High School of the Dead, or one of my first animes.

Speaker: it's I watched it in middle school, to was great. They were older. If I watched it now, I'd probably be like, what are we doing here?

Speaker: But I think high school is just like a trope over there. Like, oh, yeah, because Bleach starts in high school. Yeah. to go And Bleach is high schooler. It's usually because these publications are targeted for middle school, high school age, mostly boys.

Speaker: um So that's that's that's kind of the main reason is that like the entire manga platform is mostly targeted towards that demographic. OK.

Speaker: Yeah, my opening sentence for episode eight was, wait, how old is Hamino and how old is Denji? She said they throw people in jail for sex with minors. Yeah, they do Hamino.

Speaker: yeah That's what happens. yeah um Anyway, after all of that happens, they basically execute Order 66. Dude, oh my.

Speaker: That's my second favorite scene in the show. Yeah.

Speaker: Wait, which one? Or like the the whole sequence? The sequence, the Order 66 sequence. So what we're talking about is quite literally Order 66. um Public safety gets starts getting assassinated in broad daylight.

Speaker: And starts with Makima getting her head blown smooth off on a train. And meanwhile, ah guns are like completely outlawed.

Speaker: Yeah. in In this Japan. I think they're outlawed in real Japan, too. Oh, that's true. Yeah, they said that. They say only the police can can have guns.

Speaker: Yeah, the guy who assassinated Shinzo Abe made something at Home Depot, or like the Japanese equivalent of Home Depot. Damn. It was like a block of wood, some PVC pipe, and like a nail to trigger the ah trigger the the cartridge. nuts.

Speaker: yeah it's nus um Yeah, execute order 66 happens and then the reveal of a what I titled him, sword man. Sword face.

Speaker: Yeah. Another chainsaw man. I said, there's another. Denji, it's Denji but swords. Yeah. He's orchestrated the hit on everybody. Yeah. Because he wants to cut out Denji's heart.

Speaker: So, you know. He wants revenge for his grandfather. Who was the guy in the Yakuza that yeah was controlling Denji.

Speaker: yeah Which later on, i yeah, later on we get a really funny interaction between Denji and who we find out later. Yeah, Katana, Katana Man. Is Katana Man okay?

Speaker: Sure. Okay, and Katana, man. And he's like he like, you don't feel any guilt for killing my uncle or my grandpa? He's like, no, man, he was a zombie. He's like, I've accidentally killed a zombie and I couldn't sleep at night. He's like, you don't feel that He's like, not really. He's like, damn, you really don't have a heart.

Speaker: um And then this is when Himino dies.

Speaker: Merked. Yeah. By a girl that seems to be controlling the sword, man. Yeah. sad real sad was sad was feels like half getting murked half sacrificing yourself to save akki Yeah.

Speaker: So is that what kept happening? Like she kept wanting to help with her ghost devils. So she's like actively making contracts. It seemed like like, so like she lost her eye to get the ghost right hand and then she loses her arm and kind of just disappears. Ghost devil gets a little bit more powerful.

Speaker: So on and so forth. Is that kind of. Yeah. what you You get what you sacrifice basically. Got it. Devils. Okay. So they didn't kill her. She, it was fully, it was a full sacrifice. Yeah.

Speaker: Okay, because there was a lot going on, so I was a little confused about what's happening. i was like, wait, when did the get slashed off? It just disappeared? sure Yeah, yeah. but we haven't We haven't even gone to Makima yet.

Speaker: And what she does at the temple. Go ahead. Oh my god. That's that's next. So... Maki Maki Maki lives. She gets slimed and lives. Yes. Oh yeah. Yeah, she just walks out. She's totally fine. Then she orders some other public safety people to grab some dudes on death row to bring them to this temple.

Speaker: She blindfolds everyone and does some smushing with her hands like this. and people start exploding all over the country remotely. Yeah.

Speaker: All she needs is a name, maybe a face.

Speaker: but Yeah, i don't know I don't know the full qualifications, but yeah regardless, she's straight up smushing people from from a remote position. um Denji's also slashed in half at this point, too, by the Katana Man. So there's just there's a lot going on.

Speaker: it's It's chaotic. Okay,

Speaker: one okay so one question I do have. I know Denji can die and come back by drinking blood. This specific time when they slice him in half, how how can Denji be killed?

Speaker: i think you got to destroy his heart. yeah Is that what it is? ah devil Because like other devils also... well because Oh, i guess because he lives in his heart. Because other devils are like... completely kaputs by like slicing off their head or just making them bleed out.

Speaker: So like um I was just confused on is there one way to kill a devil or is there nuance and you can kill a devil in multiple ways? There does seem to be some gray area. Okay. I think it's because Denji isn't like a true devil. like Because if you kill Pochita, then you kill the Chainsaw Devil and Denji is just a ah guy again.

Speaker: But because it's like this amalgamation, the chainsaw devil can just grow bits. Right. Because it's all like external.

Speaker: Got it. Yeah, a little bit gray, but maybe that'll be addressed later. um This one of the shy girls from Special Division four ends up being the one to save Denji and she can just lock in like no other from a speed perspective.

Speaker: We see her during the execute order 66 kind of flashing her way through. Yeah, Katana, like she a monkey or she have a monkey devil or something like that.

Speaker: Is she just like that? Dude, an ape devil would go so hard. Yeah, I think I'd meld with the ape. devil That gives me like Dragon Ball Z vibes.

Speaker: That's what I could see him being. Or just can come checked. Yeah. um We're around the episode 10 mark. So the last few episodes before we get to the movie. we never getting to the movie. we can this This part I feel like we can quickly go through.

Speaker: um We get a special division one teacher now teaching Denji and Power. Yeah. One of my favorite interactions between them. i hope we see more of him.

Speaker: Where else do we go? Aki now needs a new devil to make a contract with because he overused the Fox. And I think the Fox was pissed. So they go to like a jailhouse or something. This is where I wanted to get to.

Speaker: They take him down to like a jailhouse where they house other devils. And he's like, all right you're going contract with this devil. Hopefully you can get a good bargain. Um, Again, another one of my favorite sequences from like an animation standpoint, giving very much horror vibes.

Speaker: For sure.

Speaker: Yeah. Also at this point, Aki, it's it's revealed to him that he has two years left to live. After using his his cursed sword from the cursed devil.

Speaker: um So that's kind of a bummer.

Speaker: Poor guy. Yeah. all he wants to do is get revenge. Yeah. If you're watching this episode and you're confused, I don't blame you. I watched the show and I'm confused. Yeah. I tried explaining how he became the chainsaw man to cam. Like after episode one, I said, okay, so we had this dog that was also part chainsaw and he's a devil.

Speaker: And like, I got two minutes into it. She was just no, yeah

Speaker: And then that was it. um Yeah, we see the future devil. The teacher's starting to get a soft spot for Denji and power. um Makima shows up to the Yakuza boss's house with the eyes of their family members.

Speaker: And the conversation she's having is very, like, unrevealing, but revealing to Makima as a character that there's a lot more to know who or what she is. She's the scariest guy i've ever seen. Yeah, at this point, you're just like...

Speaker: All right. Get me out of this room with her. Like, what is she? What are her motivations? Yeah. What are her powers? Yeah. A lot of questions for her. that That also leads into episode 12. She has another meeting um with some big boss and talks about the girl that was with the samurai sword guy, um which just deeper hole into figuring out who she is.

Speaker: ah Denji and the samurai sword have a really cool fight on a train. that was a really That was a really fun fight sequence. Aki gets his comeback.

Speaker: Yeah. With the snake girl. Yes. The snake girl was also cool. Or the snake ghost was cool the way it would ah it would appear. And gets a little closure with Jimeno's death.

Speaker: That was cute. Yeah. What did it say? Easy revenge? Yeah. Yeah. That was cool. and that That's essentially season one.

Speaker: It ends now the movie strangely. Yeah. Did we, did I miss anything big on season one? How do you guys like Alex, where are you at before getting into the movie? Like, how did you feel about chainsaw man season?

Speaker: I liked it. I liked it a lot. I had a really good time with it. It left me wanting more. um So I'm, I'm bought it. Right. It wasn't my absolute favorite thing I've ever seen.

Speaker: Like, When I watched Attack on Titan, by the end of season one, you're like, this is this has the potential to be, like, the one.

Speaker: Or at least one keeps going. Yeah, and i'm ah I'm not quite getting that from Chainsaw Man season one, but I really enjoy it. Mm-hmm. What about you, Malik?

Speaker: I think that's where I was at. I liked it, didn't love it. There were a couple of episodes that I feel were just

Speaker: kind of kind of fluff, which is unfortunate with only a 12-episode season. um Especially knowing, like, I don't know, I'm back and forth with it, like knowing that this is just like part of part one. So like there are parts of it that I can appreciate them taking like more of a slow burn approach. I think especially with like some of the supporting characters.

Speaker: But I do find myself more enthralled with the supporting characters and them being the reasons that I do want to come back to the show. Like... I'm mainly interested in like Aki's arc with the gun devil.

Speaker: um I only have Denji wanting sex from Akimo with the gun devil in the back of my mind so much so that I'm like, I don't want that to happen and I don't want to see it.

Speaker: um I liked it, didn't love it, but there is enough to keep me interested that I would keep watching. Great. I'd give season one like a three and a half out of five.

Speaker: I gave it enough if i had a five, like three and a half, four out of five. It feels right. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. We read for the movie. Yeah. The movie picks up right away.

Speaker: Resi arc. Um, Only an hour and a half, so it's like four episodes of a TV show, so felt very digestible.

Speaker: um The movie's a very different approach, but, oh, I guess we can do our letterbox love like loathe now that we're at the point of an actual movie. um Let me pull up the synopsis real quick to read it.

Speaker: So Chainsaw the movie, Rezi arc. Synopsis reads this, in a brutal war between devils, hunters, and secret enemies, a mysterious girl named Rezi has stopped into Denji's world and he faces his deadliest battle yet, fueled by love in a world where survival knows no rules.

Speaker: I've got two five stars. First one says, comes from 10 OnlyFans, says Machima would love Letterboxd. Second one's from Leland Penguin, says, does this count as love bombing?

Speaker: Yes, it does. Yes. Almost by definition.

Speaker: Tonight's three-star review comes from CoolGuyTim. Cool guy Tim, three stars and a heart. Saw this with friends, and at one point Reze says, you hesitated. is it because you hate me? And one of my friends burst out laughing in a completely silent theater, and I uncontrollably sobbed for three minutes.

Speaker: Some creepy emoji. ah There's a couple tags here. AMC, Brat, Dolby, Drama, Icon, IMAX, Blushing Emoji, Knife Emoji, Greenheart Emoji, Match My Freak, 2025, Skull Emoji, Salsa Dancing Emoji, Knife Skull Emojis, Charlie XCX, Bruh, Nerd Glasses Finger in Air Emoji, OMG, Emotional, Serious, Morale, Thriller, Major Bruh Moment. ah

Speaker: ah Water gun, three prayer hands, nerd glasses, three out of five.

Speaker: Wow. That's amazing. That was awesome. I got a tag list. Major bro moment. I got to use that tag. I clicked major bro moment to see what else they have tagged. They got like

Speaker: A lot tagged as major bro moment. I'm going to start contributing. All the movement. I mean, they got, looking in here, not to completely derail this, but some examples of major bro moments include The Odyssey rated at not ah four and a half.

Speaker: Michael rated at two out of five. um Happy Gilmore 2 is a bro moment. Amelia Perez is a bro moment.

Speaker: primates a bro moment shelby oaks is a bro moment so was honest i guess bro could be used it seems to be all over the place yeah bro moment can be a good or a bad thing the movie that came to mind immediately for me for major bro moment bro moment

Speaker: I think one for Alex would be disclosure day at the very end. They wheel the alien out. Major bro moment. like this tag. Listen, we have a major bro moment.

Speaker: All right. All right. Tati, give us our one star. here It's actually a half star. It comes in from Wearonica with a W. Predictable, over-sexualized, lacking depth, uninteresting plot.

Speaker: i lacked I liked K-pop Demon Hunters so much more. Which... These are not remotely comparable things. not Yeah, not even a fair comparison. They are Asian and animated, therefore they are the same. mean... ah It could just be racist.

Speaker: Yeah. Major bro moment. That's a major bro moment for me. I need something on the soundboard that says major bro moment. um The budget of this movie is estimated at around six to 10 million US dollars worldwide. This made 162 million dollars.

Speaker: um I'm not too sure on the six to 10 million budget. I feel like. That tracks. I think that sense. You think so? Japanese animation studios ah are well known for underpaying.

Speaker: That's why Godzilla minus one is so cheap. They underpay and overwork, which is sad. Got it. Okay. Well, I hope they got some bonuses because this did obsession type numbers. Yeah.

Speaker: show so good for them when did this come out last year was this the 2025 yep tachi where was this in your top 10 of last year i know it was in there it was high it has to be high this was let me check it wasn't in mine because least i hadn't seen it oh like i guess i should add it this was my number two wow what was your number one Marty over one battle.

Speaker: I might change that. I might. We gotta, we gotta go back to that. I know I need to rewatch Marty. I need rewatch one battle. I need to rewatch Marty too. Yeah. You were just a hater.

Speaker: I liked that movie rips, bro. I wanted that jacket so bad. You did. Is that why you didn't like the movies? Cause you didn't get the jacket. That's probably it. That's why Timothy, if you're listening, give me a jacket. I still want one. I'm here.

Speaker: I'm here and I'm ready.

Speaker: what's the

Speaker: I don't know, but let's move on. the The movie was, i think the art direction was a pretty welcome improvement over season one. And season one looked great.

Speaker: But the movie was like phenomenal. Yeah. Yeah. That would have been this would've been great to see in a theater. like i I already thought, yeah, the animation of season one, I was just like, this is really good. I wonder if it'll be the same quality for the movie. If it is that's fine, just watching it on a big screen.

Speaker: like Yeah, you could tell they kind of just like, just locked it up a little bit. wish you guys watched this at the theater. It was... It gave me like a lot of the lighting and how it was framed.

Speaker: It's not quite as good as this animation quality or this animator in general, because this dude is the best guy working alive. But Your Name kind of reminded me a little bit of it.

Speaker: I'm not saying that's that. So if you're in the comments saying... you're an idiot for comparing this to your name. One, thanks for the engagement. Two, I'm not comparing it. You're like Veronica. I'm saying there were a lot of like,

Speaker: It had a lot of the same vibes. It was going for a lot of the same like lighting and you know framings. and i It looked very, very good. i mean it it It was closer to your name in terms of animation animation quality than season one.

Speaker: it was It was brighter and softer, for sure. yeah I get what you mean. it's like The first 30, 40 minutes is exactly that. like It's kind of a tonal whiplash from season one because it picks up right away. Like at the end of season one, you see the roommates all passed out at the table and this movie picks up with them waking up. So it's literally the morning of, yeah, the morning of, um, powers anemic.

Speaker: Her horns just grew they didn't drain her blood. power not in this movie. guess it's the opposite of being anemic. Yeah. That's what I have. You know, I have a superpower and it's I have too many red blood cells.

Speaker: So I do really, really well at altitude. I'm not joking. I went to hematologist for this. I went to a hematologist for this for like six months and they i I got over my fear of having blood drawn by them discovering that I had a high red blood cell count.

Speaker: So this is right before I moved back to Austin. This is 2021. It's like the first six months of 2021. I'm going into a hospital during COVID. to work with a hematologist and the dude is like well you set up like he came to this conclusion at the end of a thing and at the end of like the six months and he was like this is right before i moved literally like a week before i moved he goes like yeah he's like i think you just have a high red blood cell count we've ruled out everything and i'm like cool he's like let's set a follow-up in three months and i'm like i'm actually moving to austin he's like

Speaker: Oh, then you're good, man. like you know like Just whatever. Just tell your primary care doctor you have a high red blood cell count. Huh. That's nice. My dentist told me once that I salivate a lot.

Speaker: Can you get that? Yeah. Yeah, you come over. Okay. Sure. overalling to so sure Tachi, what was your excitement level for Reza arc after Chainsaw Man?

Speaker: It was really high. When did you i read the manga? Before the show came out?

Speaker: Yeah, I started it before the show came out. Then the show came out, I watched it, and then I've just been reading it ever since. And then it finished. Let me find out when it finished.

Speaker: Excellent. what You're saying it sounds like it was recent. Um... Katana man, he does have a name. Four months ago. Okay, very recent then.

Speaker: Five months ago, yeah. um Yeah, first 45 minutes of this movie is like rom-com-esque. We get... A baby step in Denji and Makima's relationship. She basically asks him out on a date and they spend the day watching movies in the theater.

Speaker: Hell yeah. Six movies in a row in the theater. And then talking about it after Makima on the pod. When? Never. I do not ever want to. ever It's the scariest guy I've ever seen in my life.

Speaker: um I don't even know if I could do a six film movie in theater marathon. That's nuts. Barbenheimer was tough. That was fun. tough um They don't like any of these movies until they get to the last one.

Speaker: They both have an emotional reaction. Did we think anything of that or why? Yes, I did. I think she was testing him in some capacity. I think she was doing some sort of like test on him to elicit some sort of response because it was so out of the blue and like the movies are so random that she's like, like it just seemed like

Speaker: She has an ulterior motive. I do not trust anything she does on screen at this point. Have you ever yeah looked at her eyes? Yes. Yeah. What's going on with that? How are we not? We talked about Denji's teeth.

Speaker: We talk about her eyes. She's got something going on here. Yeah. All right. Yes. Nothing she does should ever be taken at a face value.

Speaker: Hmm. Yeah, she said date, and I said, cool, yeah, do it, but watch out. We'll be careful. MKUltra. This is MKUltra. I agree. I think it was some type of test. I don't know what she was looking for to elicit the reaction that they both had at the same movie, if she was even having that reaction. I don't i don't know. lot lot of questions there. um Maybe it's like the test from Blade Runner.

Speaker: Hmm.

Speaker: I wouldn't know. Yeah, what's wrong with you, Tachi? A lot. Shortly after this, we meet Rezi, who becomes the new love interest, and Denji is confused.

Speaker: He says, my heart belongs to Makima. and Then immediately another girl comes and he's like, oh, my body wants that.

Speaker: My mind's telling me no. Zero self-ful.

Speaker: Finish it. But my body.

Speaker: My I can do that in the car better. We all can. The car is the sacred singing place.

Speaker: Yeah. bruold immediately In the phone booth. She she like. She ambushes him like in a phone booth and she's all like adorable.

Speaker: yeah Manic pixie dream girl trying it and it works on him. and mean He pulls a one night only and does a magic trick.

Speaker: Throws up the flower? Yes. back by the wheel too She's like wow. just that that What's wrong with this guy?

Speaker: Too much. um Wait, did you guys watch this dubbed or subbed? Oh, subbed. Subbed. Okay. How do you feel about the voice actors? Do they work for you? Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker: I, it's hard for me to like uh, that's not true. I've heard. What were you about to say? What were you about to say? I don't know. I've heard the dub.

Speaker: I think I know what you're about to say. i know you don't. I do. I do.

Speaker: It was really racist. No, it wasn't. I've heard that the dub on this is really good and I went, I don't believe you.

Speaker: Never met a dub I liked. I have.

Speaker: Okay. cowboy Cowboy Bebop is, I've seen it in both subbed and dubbed. It is just as good both ways. Good to know. the the cow The guy, Steve Bloom, who they picked to do Spike's voice for Cowboy Bebop, is honestly...

Speaker: He's kind of got a better voice than the OG actor. Interesting. It just works. I think everybody does have their one where they're like, I do prefer the dub over sub. If I had to pick, mine would be like early seasons of Naruto just because that's what I would watch when I was a kid and it was dubbed. And so like, those are the voices I know.

Speaker: Whenever I would like watch it, like subbed, I'm like, that's not right. That's incorrect. Yeah. But everything else is reversed. Mine for me is Koki. Okay, that one also, yeah, I guess so. Yeah, the Japanese voice for Goku is kind of crazy.

Speaker: but it's It's pretty nuts. um But back to the movie. Yeah, um where we at at this point? Yeah, Rezzy's just trying to Riz up Denji.

Speaker: Yeah, good we both have the same. Yeah, we got it. Rezzy becomes Rizzy. um They go to a school together. She has a confrontation with... This guy.

Speaker: guy. Just some freaky guy. Literally a freaky ass guy.

Speaker: Really interesting setting that he's in. like there There are horror elements in season one and the movie where I'm like, damn, I wish we had a lot more of this. Yeah.

Speaker: I wish we had a lot more of this. I think I'd be thinking about all of this a bit differently because those segments are so... Good. They're very cool.

Speaker: No, go ahead. it's it's not It's not a spoiler because it doesn't really have to do with the narrative, really. But there is more horror in store.

Speaker: if that's Why would I even bother reading now? You just ruined all of it. That's what I want. i'm not that I'm not doing it. There's a lot to look forward to and that arena.

Speaker: okay Got me mad. All I believe you. They have an interaction. She's okay. Oh, the Typhoon Devil. He's included to the Typhoon Devil. And this is the first actual like indication we get of Rezzy maybe having some ulterior motives because she starts talking to the Typhoon Devil.

Speaker: And Typhoon Devil's like, oh, Lady Rezzy, my bad. Didn't know you were here. i'll clean I'll clean up. the And right before that, she does that crazy move. Yeah. Spinning around the guy. Black Widow style. Yeah.

Speaker: yeah She sighs and does it like... h And so takes care of him. um One thing I want to go real back real quick to the last episode of season one.

Speaker: As the special division team is taking care of the zombies, we meet other fiends. And that was also one of my favorite bits. was getting That's when we first meet the angel devil. That's when we meet the shark devil.

Speaker: Beam. Beam. Violence devil. um I love the violence devil. He's so cool. Violence devil's cool. That little violence devil dude up here. Yeah. Yeah, that's kind what he looks like. How do you guys feel about Beam?

Speaker: I like Beam. I like Beam. He was endearing. I didn't like Beam. I thought he was annoying. You're annoying. I'm sorry. but

Speaker: he just he was He was really annoying, but he he genuinely meant well. He is kind of the ghost. I couldn't hate him that much. I just thought he was annoying. He's your buddy's annoying dog who's really sweet.

Speaker: like This dude won't stop jumping on me. like This has got to stop. And then you've been there for like an hour. You're like, ah, come on. like you keep keep doing so Keep doing it. that's I think if Denji was a little different, maybe you'd appreciate Beam more.

Speaker: But Denji and Beam are kind of aligned.

Speaker: In what way? Like their personality. Okay, you think so? both feral. They're both feral and extremely loud. In their own way. Insane and kind of stupid. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker: um What else happens at this point in the movie? It all kind of... teaches Denji how to swim. Yes. Yeah, we haven't left school yet. that was Oh, yeah.

Speaker: Yeah, they do the the the skinny dip. And I thought something horrible was going to happen right then and there. And obviously they're hinting at it. There's like a spider and a spider web who just entrapped a butterfly. I'm like, thank you for that. Least obvious foreshadow.

Speaker: As I knew she saw the web, i was just like, Denji's caught in a web. And then they got the butterfly to just drive the point home. And I'm like, thank you. Thank you for that. Yes. did Did that sequence do anything for you in terms of building a romance?

Speaker: No.

Speaker: Here's the problem. I knew going into this that Reze had ulterior motives, which we will uncover shortly.

Speaker: man, I still got misty-eyed and down bad. I was so pissed watching this. I'm like, this is happening. I'm like, maybe I got this wrong. Maybe I interpreted this wrong. And then like the spider web scene happens. She starts doing kung fu, and I'm like, come on. like Why can't it ever just be that she just is a sweetie?

Speaker: like Why can't these people ever be happy? want be happy. Literally. What about his heart? Well, the whole thing's about his heart. Yeah. um I don't know.

Speaker: I'm a sucker. It worked for me. I'm going to be honest. I am a sucker for a good, tragic, you know, undestined romance. You know, I thought I was too, and it just did not work for me.

Speaker: Like, I didn't hate it You can see it coming from a mile away, which is which is fine and everything, but like as it's shaking out, I'm just like, ugh. I was, what I alluded to earlier, where my favorite parts of Chainsaw Man have been the supporting cast, they're gone.

Speaker: they're all They're all gone. And i don't know. That's just that we're at like the halfway point of the movie at this point. And that's that's just where where I'm at. And so I know what I have to look forward to are cool fight sequences, which is essentially the rest of the movie.

Speaker: So I'm like, so I'm leaving the movie. I'm not mad. I'm like, okay. I got what I wanted when I wanted, at least at the point where I'm like, all please, please give me this. And they did as I said, all right, cool. Thank you.

Speaker: You resolved it. ah

Speaker: Yeah. After, after this, it kind of all leads to this, is it a festival? Yeah. a and Like 4th of July day in Japan. Yeah, some sort of festival, and then they're they're having this sweet little talk overlooking the festival where they're about to watch some fireworks.

Speaker: And he gets a second kiss.

Speaker: And she asks him to run away with him. Mm-hmm. And then she goes. She asks him to run away with her. Mm-hmm. That is so sad.

Speaker: Boom. I would have. I know you would have.

Speaker: Would you run? Yes. To the store for me? Yep. Yep.

Speaker: Bro's got a bag. just like How did you? A U-Haul is full. Has that always been here? We've been going on the date in this all day.

Speaker: and Another kiss that goes wrong for Denji. Yeah. I think it will be nice when he finally gets a kiss that means something because he's had puke in his mouth and then a slashing of the tongue.

Speaker: ah She bit off his tongue. Biting of the tongue. Okay, she bit it. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. A warm sensation and then first time he was puke, this time it's blood. um And now we find out Rezzy kind of a kind of a bad guy In fact, she is the bomb devil.

Speaker: Yeah. Boom.

Speaker: This was tough. Yeah, that is tough. Boom. That was tough. That was really cool. And then all the, all the snapping and the pointing and the. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker: I remember watching the trailer and I was like, Oh, that looks sick as hell. And sure enough, in the movie, I'm just like, this is awesome. Yeah, the i remember watching the pin on the neck is sick.

Speaker: How is a chainsaw supposed to defeat a bomb? Her head is literally like a nuclear warhead. Yeah. I think the the design of her head looks a little funny.

Speaker: It's so goofy. Yeah. That's like, I think she is maybe one of the goofier looking devils. Cause she kind of looked like a shark, but like you like as if you like smushed a shark, but he was really squishy.

Speaker: That's kind of what she looked like. But whenever she's like gliding across the air and yeah, doing like the snapping and the pointing and everything and the colors light up the screen and things get really bright and dark and colorful rainbows. I'm like, this is really cool.

Speaker: And the point where I'm like, damn, this would have been sick in a theater. It was. Yeah. Cause yeah, at this point of the movie, it's just like public safety versus Reze and the typhoon.

Speaker: Yeah. And typhoon is just a big baby, big ass baby, big ass baby. But yeah, cloudy baby. Yeah. um where else like what Where are you guys at like in this part of the movie?

Speaker: It's just a bunch of fighting. like Essentially until the credits roll. It's literally just fighting. And it's really it's really cool. The Division 2 scene where they're like hiding out.

Speaker: I love that bit. You get ah ah one of the the best con moments of the whole thing. So out of nowhere. Yeah.

Speaker: yeah the side plot to all this is Aki and the angel devil are hanging out yes the angel devil is apparently a man which I think I found out in real time when Denji's doing his ranking of all the girls he knows and he starts it with well the angel devil's a guy so but

Speaker: He doesn't knock him off the list. I'll just say that. He's firmly on the list. I mean, he was the first one he thought of, so. Is that is that a spoiler, Tachi? Is that ah spoiler? Yeah, confirm nor deny. um Yeah, what do guys think of Aki and and the Angel and their and their conversations and their kind of relationship?

Speaker: I like kill me. I want to die. i do not want to go to work.

Speaker: Kill me. Yeah, I like it. i Again, I wish I had we had a little bit more of it. I'm glad that we got Aki in here. um Yeah, but I do really like their relationship and where that seems to be progressing.

Speaker: Also setting myself up for for heartache down the road. just a tiny bit more. The whole deal. I just setting ourselves up for heartache in this movie.

Speaker: Yeah. Me with Reze, you with. Aki. Dudes. Yeah.

Speaker: yeah um I really like the Angel's whole thing of if you come in contact with it, it shaves off part of your life. So Aki at this point but had two years left to live, and he's trying to rescue Angel and not let him live. So grabs him by the hand to hold on, and it knocks two months off of his life.

Speaker: That's my goat Aki. After like so now two seconds. Yeah, just quick. Mm-hmm. So if you keep holding the angel, the longer your life battery just depletes.

Speaker: I wonder why that is. Can't this guy get a contract with the the more life devil? Yeah, I'll give you more life.

Speaker: yeah What do you need from me? Some money would be good. i need crack i need crack devil you need to do crack there's a devil for everything sign that contract with blood yeah oh dude a crack devil would go nuts I mean I know i' but who's a afraid of corn on the way to work leg own skin row because the the way that they established the power of the devil is based on their their collective fear

Speaker: or humans fear of that devil or that entity. Would the meth devil be better or worse than the crack devil? What drug are you the most scared of?

Speaker: Meth.

Speaker: Meth seems scary. Yeah. Wait, so devils are humans like amalgamation of fear? Is that right? The level of their power is is how it is. how scared we are.

Speaker: So like if the collective human race is really scared of clowns, then like Pennywise would blossom in this world. Sure. yeah That's kind of like Pennywise. That's actually what he how he feeds to Pennywise. Okay, so we got a bunch of Pennywise's. Pennywise?

Speaker: The tomato devil existing with that context is really funny. It didn't have no power. Yeah, but it there was someone out there was actually down there's terrified of tomatoes.

Speaker: Oh, a spider devil would be so. Oh, there is a spider devil. Yeah, it should have been bigger or something. Yeah, she's kind of cool. um Back the movie. Yeah, back to the movie. Beam, they're fighting. Beam is integral to this in helping Denji escape.

Speaker: um

Speaker: And then they all end at a beach together. And there's interesting conversations being had with Rezi being confused as to why Denji saved her. And Denji's kind of still like s simping over her.

Speaker: Where he's like, bro, we can make this work. like we can We can do this, for sure. It's worth a shot.

Speaker: is it shootter Shoot or shoot. Shoot or shoot. You're right. I can't. I can't. i can't knock him for trying. He may be James Harden in the finals for the conference finals. but He's shooting.

Speaker: I mean, he tries and you think for a second that she might and she's like yeah, what if I just killed you right now? And he's like, I mean, that'd be a cool way to go. Like also wouldn't mind that. Right. Um, I get the sincerity they're going for.

Speaker: And this is the most believable parts of Denji for me, where the I feel the most emotion where he got like a glimpse of something that could have potentially been real.

Speaker: And he's just like grasping at it, like with all of his might that at this point in this battle, after everything that's happened, he's still like, he's still shooting. Yeah. and i had And I had some sympathy for him as a character at at this point.

Speaker: That was the most relatable thing of the whole story so far. I get it, man. He's out here shooting, man.

Speaker: He's grinding. My boy deserves a happy ending after all of this. um How are you guys doing at this point? I love this bit. It...

Speaker: It reminded me a tad about of the end of the the Evangelion like remake movies. It also ends on a beach. The end of the fourth one, 3.0 plus 1.0 thrice upon a time.

Speaker: Hmm. I haven't seen it so that's worth.

Speaker: Okay.

Speaker: um I think it was sincere. i don't even think they were going for sincerity. I genuinely think that was sincere. And I think the only sincerity is Reze not or pretending that she wasn't reciprocal.

Speaker: Because she is painted pretty obviously at the end there. It was. Yeah. And she is just as messed up as Denji. her past is alluded to and it's a nightmare, like a literal nightmare. um And I truly think that she, when she said, hey, we should run away, i think she was being earnest.

Speaker: But when Denji said, oh, well, Makimo wouldn't like that, then she's like, there's no chance. Yeah. Because Makimo will hunt us down.

Speaker: But Denji shoots his shot and he just tries to make it work and she doesn't go for it.

Speaker: But then she just does the same thing. She does it right back, but no he'll never know.

Speaker: And that's sad. Yeah. He says, I'll be having lunch at the cafe. Like that's where I'll be. So she does show up, but is intercepted by the scariest guy I've ever seen in my life. ah that Yeah, this last scene just kind of broke me first time I saw it.

Speaker: the The jogging in the alleyway and then the immediate... No, nope. Yeah, she's targeted by a mountain of rats revealed to be Machima.

Speaker: What are her powers, bro? I don't know. i She had to have made it a deal with the devil devil. What is she? She might be the devil devil. It might just be her.

Speaker: Yeah, the only time I've been invested was this guy named Johnny in Georgia.

Speaker: Violence, man.

Speaker: And then there's a post-credit scene. says then you there was? Yeah. Oh, no! You want me to tell you about it?

Speaker: Oh, he's pulling a Yutachi. Wow. Okay. Let's talk about that. Yeah, he's holding the flower bouquet and appears depressed because Rezi never showed up. Yeah. And then Power arrives and then is like, are these for me? And then they just have a little tiff. But we see how sad he is with Rezi not showing up. Yeah. Makimo, by the way, did end up killing Rezi in that moment with the help of the angel devil.

Speaker: Yeah. So Rezi no more.

Speaker: RIP. RIP, Redsy. Come back, Alex. How do we feel about this movie? I liked it. It made me want more. I think I am going to read all the manga now.

Speaker: Wow. Wow. Please keep me up to date. Yeah. i yeah i have some other things I have some other things I need to get through before I do that. um But i I am trying out a new manga. It's requested from the library. I've heard horrible things in terms of how depressing it is, but I've heard it's great. What is it? It's just super depressing.

Speaker: Good night, pun pun. sounds vaguely familiar. I don't know anything about it. It's supposed to be insanely depressing. Fun. I want to check it out. So I have the first volume requested. If I like it, I'll keep going with it There's only 12 volumes. so And then after for that, I'll do Chainsaw Man.

Speaker: Great. Alongside whatever nonsense I'm reading. Speaking of nonsense, I'm reading because this I told you guys before this, but I want to tell the. um The audience as well, because I think it's funny.

Speaker: So. One of my problems with Reze as a character had nothing to do with her. least he started reading a book called American Iran, 1700s to present day, written by a professor of history at University of Pennsylvania.

Speaker: ah You know, big history buff. And while know some of the history, I don't know all of it about how we got to where we are today. um One of the the main characters of... ah the Iran-US history, is the guy that we installed in power there in 1953 after we helped overthrow the parliament, the guy that you will will all know as the Shah.

Speaker: Shah just means king in Persian, but um like when talking about like the Shah, you're talking about this one guy. That one guy Mohammad Reza Pahlavi.

Speaker: The whole time I'm watching this and every time that they say Reze's name, I'm like, Iran.

Speaker: That's him. It's the Shah. Thinking about the Shah. um And that took me out of the movie a little bit. I'm being completely honest. It really took me out because every time they're like...

Speaker: I'm so into Reze and I get flash banged by this dude thinking he's you know Darius or Cyrus the Great. Must have made that pool scene a little confusing for you. yeah just huh The geopolitics of that were crazy. Crazy.

Speaker: Any other final thoughts before we get to ratings? Yeah, i think I think overall how I felt about the movie, it's not super like what I expected um following season one, which which is interesting. Like, I like that it's kind of...

Speaker: Just going in a direction that you wouldn't fully expect. I just don't know if it's a direction that I'm fully on board with. Like I said, the reasons that I'm still on board at the end of season one, I'm still holding on to.

Speaker: um Emotionally, what works for me last 10 minutes it. ten minutes of it most other Most everything else like leading up to it, i'm just they kind of just felt like what would be like a filler episode for me.

Speaker: I think the fact that it was like framed as a movie also might dock it down a little bit for me. Because if a filler episode is a filler episode, that's fine. But if i I could just imagine a world where I watched Chainsaw Man when it was coming out, saw the trailer for the movie, went to the theaters to see it, and then left more disappointed because I'd been like, man, that was filler of the movie um that it almost felt like.

Speaker: um But overall, like as a whole, i am on board and I will watch. I don't know if I'm so on board that I'll read the manga. I'm obviously fine waiting if I waited four years to watch season one. So I'm sure season two is around the corner.

Speaker: Don't say that, bro. We just got a movie. So that means there's four more years. That's nuts. Yeah. Take your time. have no I have no idea what the the schedule is. um I feel like that's a symptom with anime movies, though. I don't know why.

Speaker: They all usually, like, no matter how fun they are, like, I thought the Bleach movies, the first four were pretty fun. They were all totally filler. It just felt like complete fan service. Cowboy Bebop movie stands alone on its own really well.

Speaker: there's no reason for it to do this. They all stand alone perfectly fine, but they're just like also there. It feels like the ones that don't really stand alone, the ones that are part of a larger arc might suffer the most, like most read like demon slayer.

Speaker: Like that's actually when I was like really stoked for. And that was a long one too. That one was like two and a half hours. Yeah. And a lot of that also kind of felt like, like filler or like, Really? it it it felt like like across the Spider-Verse it's like, wow, this is beautiful to look at.

Speaker: And it's like, but it's only leading up to the next part. Like nothing, nothing was resolved. only i would like to know why they decided to make this a movie instead of another season.

Speaker: Because you could have chopped this up into yeah a season. yeah yeah i think it's just because this particular arc was pretty short and i think what they might be going for is to just resolve part one with season two and it may have the maybe maybe there's just issues with production with combining the two things but that's that's just my theory Yeah, like it's it feels like this could have been like season one could have been 16, 17 episodes with this being on the back end maybe a couple more um for part one and then have another 16 episode season and that be a big part one. But I don't know. I'm not behind the teams. But I mean, overall, I did enjoy the last few days of of getting to watch this for sure.

Speaker: I did rate. right. right, boys. Yeah, let's rate it. um We already gave season one our ratings. Tachi, what do you give season one? I'll give season one to four. A four? Yeah.

Speaker: Okay. And then what's your rating for the Resi arc? So I don't know. When I watched it in theaters last year, I gave it a five and it was my number two movie of the year. Upon rewatch and upon reflection, I'm going to dock it down.

Speaker: I'm going it a four. Wow. Full, full star. Just, just like, because of my, my grading system, four and a half is perfect. Five is like super meaningful to my life.

Speaker: And it's something I'll like love to rewatch over and over and over again. And it's neither of those things, but it's still really great to me. So that's why leaning at four. That makes sense to me.

Speaker: Movies, man. Theaters have power. There's something going on. There's something going on in there. We were under spells for Spider-Man No Way Home. We had that shit five. Unbelievable spells. I will say, he had a friend recently who watched it for the first time.

Speaker: He liked it. He said, yeah, it's pretty good. So I feel like spell, oh my God. Yeah. And then it like levels out to where it's just like, after all of this, it's like, yeah, that was a good time.

Speaker: But the true fives are the ones that do withstand. The test time. Yeah. the The true fives are heat, where I watch it, and I'm like, this is the sickest movie ever, and then I watch it with you guys. By the end of the movie, I'm shaking. I was literally quivering like at the end of that movie. Yeah.

Speaker: literally how i feel about pop star

Speaker: that's why we did the double feature yeah go listen to that episode um i'm gonna give this movie a three i liked it great animation i had a fun time with it okay i'm gonna give it four my guts a four I'm a little sad, Malik, that this is only a half star better than um whatever the hell we just reviewed.

Speaker: What was one it? One Night Only. Yeah. We crapped all over that thing. The animation was, I think, half star alone. Come on. half star over one night only. Okay, fine. I'll give it a three. I'll give it a three and a half. That's that's fair. Yeah, peer pressure.

Speaker: yeah Yeah, yeah. I mean, yeah life I think this bit, the aura farm. That's so sick. stars that's Yeah, yeah. It's a four.

Speaker: Okay, three and a half. we'll leave it It's a very strong three and a half. With the animation and the aura of ah of of pulling the pin from the neck. With the boom. I'm still doing that at work.

Speaker: Make a sale. like it. Pull boom. Are you having some sort of episode, Alex? Are you having some sort of condition? Can be complimentary or derogatory? Yeah.

Speaker: works ah Well, I am glad that we did this. It was a long time coming for me to watch this show. The next anime we'll do will probably be something else I put off for four years.

Speaker: and you so Cowboy Bebop? Cowboy Bebop would be cool. And I also know that been putting that since we've known each other. Yeah, I didn't know that there was a movie. There is a movie. There's also really bad Netflix live action.

Speaker: I've heard. I don't want to watch it. either ah Any closing thoughts for you guys? What other animes do we like? I want to give the listeners something little bit about us. You're going to take just not just Chainsaw Man away. it's like hey that That one doesn't sound like it's for me. you know What else do we like?

Speaker: I'll go first because I have the most basic answers. You guys are much more in depth with anime. I fucking love Attack on Titan. Dude, an Attack on Titan is a 10 out of 10. That shit changed my life. That's a 10 out of 10 show. yeah Like, it it just is. It just is. It straight up just is.

Speaker: It's one of the greatest. All of Naruto is great. Like, that was the first anime I ever watched and, like, actually fully got into as a kid, like, in middle school. Yeah. demon slayer i enjoy jujutsu kaisen i enjoy need to get caught up with that that's where i'm at the basic ones i love so my first two animes this is how i got into it uh the ghibli movies were what actually got me into it yeah um poking around on netflix

Speaker: Watched something called High School of the Dead, which was nuts. ah My dad actually found one called Gogol 13, which is about this assassin. That was pretty cool. There's one episode that still lives like rent-free in my head. It's so good.

Speaker: um But for me, like the one that really blew it wide open was Bleach. um I remember watching Bleach on some free website and

Speaker: it's just so many cool characters. So awesome character design, awesome battles. um The only thing preventing me from a rewatch to like get caught back up for a thousand year blood war, which just started is there's like seasons of filler between things that matter, but there's enough that happens in those seasons where it's like, like, like,

Speaker: They just leave enough in there to where it's like you can't quite skip over it. But it's a slog to get through. Could skip over it. There there are resources. There's AnimeFillerList.com. It'll show you what's filler, what's canon. It's very clear, very easy to use.

Speaker: did Check that out. Did you want to use our list anymore? Yeah. um Cowboy Bebop. That's great. First episode. I was like, this is 10 out of 10 show.

Speaker: Literally the first episode. um I love Neon Genesis Evangelion. I think the end of Evangelion movie, like the original movie for it, is one of the craziest pieces of animated cinema ever. Yeah.

Speaker: It is one of those movies where if someone walked in and said, can you explain this to me? There's no possible way to do it. o It is ah is unbelievable.

Speaker: um Samurai Champloo, like that one a lot. Oh, I did watch that one too. That one is good. That one's so good. but yeah Incredible soundtrack. Lujibis, just one of the goats. Died too young. That was a COVID watch for me.

Speaker: i yeah I love Attack on Titan, and I'm always looking for more. And I love Berserk. I love Berserk. But to me now, it's been supplanted by the fact that I've read the whole manga, so I feel like Berserk's more of a manga than an anime anyway, because we only got the one season.

Speaker: uh but uh guts is just one of my favorite characters ever and the golden arc if it was written in word um the golden age arc i think that whole story would be if it was written in russian in 1907 it would be like all-time great piece of literature yes and it's a it's a flippin manga dude it's just unbelievable couldn't put it down um

Speaker: I like anime a lot. Great. I need to watch more of the big ones. like I do need to do Full Metal Alchemist. I've seen, i think, I actually think I've seen all of the regular Full Metal Alchemist. I don't think I've seen any of Brotherhood.

Speaker: um I need to finish Death Note.

Speaker: Does Yu-Gi-Oh count? No. If Yu-Gi-Oh counts, then Initial D. Dude, Initial D went hard.

Speaker: What about you, Hitachi? I mean, I've got a whole like ranked list, but I'll i'll try to keep this brief. For just like general recommendations that I think anyone could enjoy, Haikyuu and Mob Psycho 100 both have just like fundamentally changed me.

Speaker: And I will never not recommend those. Haikyuu is about a high school volleyball team. a Mob Psycho is about an autistic little middle school boy and he has powers and it's just this it's it's just like the sweetest story and it's it's got incredible animation in the show the the art style will turn some people off but if you can get past that and just accept the show for what it is you will be a better person after you watch it so those are just like my my most

Speaker: i don't know probably widely accepted recommendations that i've got but um as far as my favorites you know one piece attack on titan um i don't know there's a lot in here but i'll just leave it there i do hope that one day we can have like a manga episode because I could gush about so much.

Speaker: One in particular that is going to have an anime release and in February, Kavira Bachi. I've been a day one supporter and lover, and it's genuinely one of the most incredible things I've ever read.

Speaker: And I'll just leave it at that. All right. We'll add it to the repository.

Speaker: All right. Well, this was a big one, and I'm glad we did it. We will be back next week with a double feature, The End of Oak Street and Train to Busan. So go watch those movies.

Speaker: Wait, that's next week? It's just a funny double feature. It is a funny double feature. I guess I got to get going because, dude, Tony came out finally in theaters.

Speaker: Oh, Tony's out for you? can go see it. I can go see it anytime I want now. it's There's tons of dates for it. Well, we'll be watching them. Yeah. we're great well We're going to be back next week with an episode. what One thing's for sure, we will be back next week. ah Follow us on YouTube, Letterboxd, all the socials to keep up with what we're doing.

Speaker: Let us know if you've seen Chainsaw Man, any animes that you like, but we will catch you guys in next week's episode. Bye. Peace.

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