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#18 Objection! The Relitigated Game Show
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In this special episode we bring you the first ever edition of Objection! The Relitigated Game Show.
3 of our justices, Sarah, Adam, and Preston, compete for points to see who will be crowned the official Chief Justice of Relitigated and earn the commemorative gavel. To make things spicy, contestants can object when they believe a colleague is wrong and wager points to get either a boost or a setback. With 6 rounds of questions on the most recent Supreme Court term, and some of the, honestly, most unfair questions ever asked in a multiple-choice trivia game, the contestants have their work cut out for them.
Who will be victorious and crowned the official Chief Justice of Relitigated?
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Transcript
Introduction to 'Relitigated' and Episode Overview
00:00:00
Speaker
Hi there! Welcome to Relitigated, the show where five friends who are absolutely not lawyers attempt to retry a real Supreme Court case. I'm your host, Jarrett, and I'm so excited to bring you to this special episode, number 18, Objection, the Relitigated Game Show.
00:00:18
Speaker
That's right, instead of doing one case, all the trivia in this episode will cover the most recent Supreme Court term. quick note before we get started. As always, we try our best to represent the facts and decisions in the cases we discuss as accurately as possible, but we're not lawyers and nothing in this episode should be taken as legal advice.
00:00:38
Speaker
Okay, with that out of the way, let's start the show.
00:00:43
Speaker
I'm sure I'll find something in here that but we can use, but it's all that. There's something usable here. Yeah, there's something usable in here.
Meet the Co-Host and Contestants
00:00:49
Speaker
Hi there. Welcome to the Relitigated Podcast. I'm your host, Jarrett, and I'm joined by my co-host, Nikki. Hello, Nikki.
00:00:58
Speaker
We also have with us three friends who will be playing as our contestants. Our first contestant is Adam. Welcome, Adam. Oh, hello. I'm not chief anymore, and that takes a lot of pressure off, to be honest.
00:01:09
Speaker
Our second contestant is Preston. Welcome, Preston. Hello, hello. And finally, our third contestant is Sarah. Welcome, Sarah. i um Feels weird, actually, to not be Chief Justice.
00:01:23
Speaker
A little out of my element. Yeah, we're not doing an IRC anymore? Like, what are we doing? what get Did we actually get fired? If you're new to the show, normally we select a real Supreme Court case and we would re-argue it.
00:01:34
Speaker
But as our contestants have probably figured out by now, not on this episode. In this episode, we'll be playing Objection, the Relitigated Game Show. Oh my God. Can you please tell our contestants the rules of the game?
00:01:50
Speaker
I love how we consistently never tell our justices anything about what's going to happen to them when they this. That's what makes it so fun. They keep showing up. That's what makes it so much fun. i don't know why.
00:02:02
Speaker
just keep showing up and it's fun.
Trivia Game Show Format and Rules
00:02:06
Speaker
Well, our game is very simple. We have six rounds of six questions each, and these are multiple choice questions about the most recent Supreme Court term and its cases.
00:02:18
Speaker
Wait, I'm scared. Each correct answer is worth one point. You're all going to take turns answering questions, and when it is your turn, we will read you the question and possible answers.
00:02:31
Speaker
When you've decided on an answer, you will lock it in. Before we reveal the answer, if it is not your turn and you think the provided answer is wrong, you can yell, objection.
00:02:43
Speaker
If you object, you wager one point, and if the provided answer is in fact wrong, then you win a point. If you feel you know the right answer, you can wager two points and provide your own answer.
00:02:58
Speaker
Only one person can object per question. And because we are generous souls, everyone starts with one point. Aww. This rules. This the most fun had since the last time invited me to play mini golf, which was like...
00:03:14
Speaker
God, 22 years ago. They've not spoken since then. Yeah. Yep. Haven't talked. Why am I nervous to read aloud right now?
00:03:25
Speaker
I feel like I feel like i'm I'm going to get called on in class and I'm going to just shut down. Jared's going to edit in the who wants to be a millionaire like fanfare like little little lo right before you speak.
00:03:38
Speaker
All right. Do we have any questions about rules? its Fantastic. Let's go. All right. All right, Jarrett, take it away Excellent. Okay.
00:03:50
Speaker
Round one. This is going to be all about the most recent term. The entire show is about the most recent term. Normally we do old cases. We're doing contemporary stuff today. So question one, this one is for Adam.
00:04:08
Speaker
Which was the first day of the most recent Supreme Court term that ended in June? Was it A, September 1st, 2024?
00:04:20
Speaker
B, October 7th, 2024? Or C, January 6th, 2025? What? what
00:04:32
Speaker
Would you like those again? and I also feel like i had a stroke. Um... ah What if I want to guess? Can I guess? Can I take Adam's guess? You can object.
00:04:42
Speaker
tagging you in. Objection.
00:04:47
Speaker
I'm overruled. The answer is C. January 6, 2025? That feels good. When in doubt, pick C. I'm going with the September date, if we're all just throwing dates out here. We are...
00:05:04
Speaker
never Breaking the game in the first five minutes. Okay. Wow. um So Adam with the answer of nothing will be awarded zero points.
00:05:18
Speaker
ah Sarah with an objection wagering two points, which you don't have right now. You only have one point. So you were wagering one point Adam is wrong, which I mean, I guess he is, but he didn't answer anything. But you're saying C, which is also wrong.
00:05:36
Speaker
the answer is B, October 7th, 2024 was the first day of the latest term.
00:05:45
Speaker
How was I supposed to know that? I'm not a lawyer. How would I have known that? right, we're off to a good start. yeah You're allowed to guess. Oh, and I guessed. I'm realizing exactly what league I'm in right now. Okay, I understand.
00:05:58
Speaker
ah We're keeping track of what day things happened. Fair enough. don't even know what day it is today. Right, fair. That's exactly what I'm saying. Preston, who sets the first day of the term?
00:06:10
Speaker
Is it Congress, B, the Constitution, or C, the Chief Justice? I'm going to say Congress. Locking it in.
00:06:22
Speaker
I'm knocking that in. Hearing none. Answer is... Is this just an exercise to prove to us all how fucking humiliatingly awful we are at congressional norms? like Is this just to prove to us how little we know about how this country operates?
00:06:38
Speaker
Because that's how I'm feeling right now. mean, that's every episode. Yeah. yeah ah ah The answer is a Congress.
00:06:49
Speaker
Yes. Preston's on the board with one point. Well, two now. Well, he's got two points now. No, you go you're going down, Preston. I'm not going to let you get away with this. Or you target. Okay. i'm Looking at my score at negative one.
00:07:06
Speaker
Off to a great start. Sarah, what is the rule that decides the first day of the term? Is it the second Monday in October, B, the first Monday in October, or C, the first Monday after the first Tuesday in October?
00:07:29
Speaker
I'm
00:07:34
Speaker
scared. Any objections? No, I'm not wasting my two points. Wow. Sorry, I didn't know that we were already forming strategy.
00:07:45
Speaker
Jesus Christ. Oh, rice yeah The answer, Sarah answered C. The answer is B, the first Monday in October. Okay. Well, you know.
00:07:58
Speaker
Yep. That's true. You're about to see. a The way that actually helped – Did that help my score? That helped my score. no no No, no, no. You got the wrong answer, Sarah. Yep. That did not help your score.
00:08:11
Speaker
You had one. and You lost one. You gained zero.
00:08:16
Speaker
I don't, I object.
00:08:21
Speaker
All right. Preston, how many cases did the court agree to hear in the 2024, 2025 term? many hairs Hulk Hogan's a fifty six b sixty two or c sixty nine um many hairs on hulk hogan's head
00:08:41
Speaker
Rest in peace. I want to say 69 just yes for shiggles. So I'm going to go with that. I'm going to have to. That's only professional. Yeah, absolutely. A unanimous decision. That's really, jurisprudent of you, Rustin. Extremely so.
00:09:00
Speaker
Uh, the answer is B62. Ah, damn. He threw that in there just to get to me. I knew. God. Yeah, really? That was bait. You got off to too strong of a start.
00:09:13
Speaker
I have a random number generator and it came up with 69 and I was just like, ah,
00:09:19
Speaker
Too good to be true. So, ah Sarah, how many of the 62 cases that the Supreme Court agreed to hear did they actually end up hearing in the 2024 to term? 61 of the 62?
00:09:35
Speaker
is it a fifty eight of the sixty two b fifty nine of the sixty two or c sixty one of the sixty two I came up with the fucking worst SAT discussions of all time.
00:09:50
Speaker
I want to pixie. This is the test you take in your nightmares. I want to pixie, but I have little faith that the court system is actually efficient enough to get that close. been Like the full number of cases. i think A is right.
00:10:07
Speaker
So I'm going to go with A. It's fucking B. What was that, 52? It's fucking B. I was 58 of the 62.
00:10:15
Speaker
Final answer? I'm going with My final answer is A. Okay. Objections? I feel like it's B just because this entire operation is meant to mess with us. You have to say objection. You have to say objection. Objection.
00:10:29
Speaker
i think it's B. All right. You're going to wager two points. Wait, what? How many points do you mean? I have none. How can I wager anything? I no points.
00:10:40
Speaker
You have one point. Okay. ah Sorry, sir. The answer was C.
00:10:47
Speaker
61 out of 62. Yeah. sure I have no points now. Yeah, fuck you guys. Adam loses a point.
00:10:58
Speaker
Sarah gains no points. I'm going to be strong. my god. Yeah, at this point... ah At this point, the exercise is just to stay positive.
00:11:12
Speaker
And, like, it's really only been Adam and I that have been chief justices so far. And we're both in the negative. So I don't know what that says about our courts, but...
00:11:26
Speaker
ah ah we'll We'll find out with this next one. Adam, yeah how many of these 61 cases that the court actually heard did they actually rule on? Is it A, 58, B, 59, or C, 60 of the 61? Those are all like the same numbers. You have a 33% chance. Yeah.
00:11:49
Speaker
um have a thirty three percent chances I'll read them again. Numbers are a meaningless construct of the bourgeois to hold us down.
00:12:01
Speaker
I refuse to answer your question. Also, you guys came up with literally the most devious, evil, multiple choice test of all time. And I refuse participate on moral grounds.
00:12:12
Speaker
if I abstain. ah abstain on conscience's objective grounds. And you can't make me participate. And I hate you. I hate you both.
00:12:23
Speaker
This is the rant we came for. What are my options again? That's what I thought. 58. a eight B, 59. Or C, 60. 59. Your options are really good. Yeah. All right. Lock it in. 59. Any objections?
00:12:44
Speaker
You would absolutely torture us to death if the proletariat gave the opportunity. Yeah. The answer is B, 59. You just gave me a point out of mercy. No, that is the actual answer.
00:12:58
Speaker
but point stands. At least as of this taping, I guess they could issue another ruling at some point. ah You need like an air horn for whenever somebody gets it right. but Dude, fantastic.
00:13:10
Speaker
Facts are fungible. Edit the air horn in, please. Yes. ah The following is a bonus question. This is a question that all of you can provide an answer to, and there is no penalty if you get it wrong.
00:13:20
Speaker
ah everybody grab your knife and stab your compatriot to death. It's the bonus round. right. Question for everybody. Where does it state that the Supreme court justices serve lifetime appointments?
00:13:36
Speaker
Hey, oh nowhere. They tattoo it in their flesh when they get appointed. Article three, section one of the constitution or C article three, section two of the constitution.
00:13:49
Speaker
Would you read us those sections of the Constitution, maybe? No, absolutely not. I want to say nowhere. I'm going with nowhere. All right, Preston's locking in a nowhere.
00:14:02
Speaker
That's a cynical answer. C. Sarah's locking in C. Yeah, C. Adam's locking in C. That feels right. Yes, the correct answer is A, nowhere.
00:14:12
Speaker
Goddammit. I need these points. I need these points.
00:14:18
Speaker
My cynicism is always my failing. Article 3, Section 1 of the Constitution states, quote, The judges, both of the supreme and inferior courts, shall hold their offices during good behavior and shall, as stated at stated times, receive for their services a compensation which shall not be diminished during their continuance in office, end quote.
00:14:40
Speaker
While this does not explicitly state that justices serve lifetime appointments, during good behavior has been interpreted to mean poor life. Though this does beg the question, whose job is it to interpret the Constitution?
00:14:56
Speaker
Supreme Court. Nothing is real at this point. No, absolutely not. No, we're... Listen, if you believe anything other than the fact that we're living at 100% in The Sims 5...
00:15:10
Speaker
You're a fool. Yeah, this is the worst timeline. It's probably something even more sinister. At the end of round one, the scores are Adam with one, Preston with three, that sounds right Sarah with zero. This is rigged.
00:15:27
Speaker
dude The guy who said through ray i says the least wins. makes Exactly. I just gotta take it all in and listen. Shut the fuck up and let her would dig their own grave. There's going to need to be some objections to catch up, friends.
00:15:48
Speaker
And risk my points, I think, man. No, you're fine. I love the strategy coming out. Nikki, if you could take it over for round two. ah Okay, so this one's for Sarah.
00:16:00
Speaker
Which of the following cases did the court rule on that concerned birthright citizenship? Was it A. Trump v. Casa, B, Bondi v. Vanderstock, or C, Riley v. Bondi?
00:16:19
Speaker
ah ah and B. Locking it in? C.
00:16:33
Speaker
Any objections? i Can I object to my own answer? You can change it. you I gotta be confident. All I've got going here is that the name Vanderstock feels like it has some significance to me in reading the news and being outraged.
00:16:50
Speaker
I'm going to go with whichever answer that was because I can't remember which it was. I don't even remember what C was. Riley v. Bondi. They just all blend together.
00:17:02
Speaker
yeah Go ahead read those again. yeah I mean, it's not going to help. Please do. I'm guessing. They're all the same. A is Trump v. Casa, and that's an acronym.
00:17:13
Speaker
B is Bondi v. Vanderstock. That's the one. And C is Riley v. Bondi.
00:17:23
Speaker
I'm not going to allow myself to be influenced by outside powers. That's unusual for a court. C. Because Congress and Constitution. Yeah. Ooh.
00:17:38
Speaker
Great. Belling arguments. All right. Well, so the right answer was A, Trump v. Casa. God damn it. That's dumb. So I think Adam ah loses a point, right?
00:17:51
Speaker
Yeah, probably. He does. Sounds right. If I'm going down, you're going down with me. All right? I'm just here. Yeah, so this dynamic is is is Adam and Sarah just like crabs in a bucket and Preston is just like riding his bike down the block. Yeah, leads to the... Yep, that's right. Wait, what is what is the acronym for CASA?
00:18:17
Speaker
That is a very good question. And if you give me a second, I will pull it up real quick. Isn't that like an organization that helps homeless kids? Yeah. um I know that there's, yeah, they serve as like guardians.
00:18:29
Speaker
guardians Like foster kids or something. Like they do something with. Figures Trump would sue him.
00:18:38
Speaker
Is anyone also going to mention the irony that the case is Trump v. The Spanish word for home.
00:18:45
Speaker
Citizenship. No, irony is dead, sir. Oh, we don't do that here? oh We don't mourn it anymore. Okay. It just says Casa de Maryland. okay So it is, I think it is supposed to be, um yeah, it's a nonprofit organization that serves immigrants. It's the state of Maryland against the concept of human rights generally. Yep.
00:19:08
Speaker
Human rights lost. Decisive nine and zero victory. ah Okay. So, Adam, what was the ah what ah ruling in Trump v. Casa? What was the breakdown?
00:19:22
Speaker
Was it 5-4 for Casa, B, 7-2 for Trump, or C, 6-3 for Trump? What year was this?
00:19:34
Speaker
This year. This year. or yeah Adam, this ah just happened.
00:19:42
Speaker
um whatever Whatever the option was where the most justices ruled in favor of Trump. That's the one. 7-2 for Trump? B? Yeah, that sounds right.
00:19:53
Speaker
Any objections? Oh, okay. We got an objection. Oh, so sorry. six six three six three was the other one? Yeah. was the everyone Let him object. No, you're right. is right. Wait, which one are you going for? Wait. So it sounds like Adam Shainz's answer to see Six three.
00:20:12
Speaker
I no longer object. Yeah, because because there are three sane justices and six insane justices. Objection withdrawn. Okay. i had I had to remember the state of things. Yeah. um It's easy to forget.
00:20:25
Speaker
So C. Yeah. C. And that is correct. Adam gets a point. Yay! Wow.
00:20:36
Speaker
Back on the board. mean...
00:20:41
Speaker
So, Preston, who wrote in their dissent, quote, the gamesmanship in this request is apparent and the government makes no attempt to hide it.
00:20:52
Speaker
Was it A, Justice Sotomayor, B, Justice Jackson, or C, Justice Kagan?
00:21:02
Speaker
i want to say Jackson. So that's B. I object. Okay, Sarah? I think it was Sotomayor. Sarah says a
00:21:12
Speaker
All right. Actually, Sarah was right. Oh, no. Hell, yeah. It was a Sotomayor. She is always good for, like, just amazing descents. Yeah, that was cutting of her. Good job, queen. Oh, my God.
00:21:31
Speaker
I am back on the board in a big way. Normally, you would have to wager points, but I think if you get to zero, you can still wager. just for the sake of getting back on the board. So you're back on the board with two, Sarah. You sick son of a bitch.
00:21:49
Speaker
This is the most ah sick fucking episode of Jeopardy I've ever participated in. And I participated a lot of episodes of Jeopardy. The fact that all of your... Listen, said guys, multiple choice questions, you're supposed to be able to like do a process of elimination get rid of doom.
00:22:06
Speaker
Nah. No, that would... Why would we do that? Speaking of birthright citizenship, Adam, to whom does the executive order concerning birthright citizenship apply?
00:22:21
Speaker
Is it A, all individuals born to parents who were not American citizens at the time, B, individuals in the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, or DACA program,
00:22:35
Speaker
Or C, individuals born after February 19, 2025. Okay, this is actually the first one I could do the process of elimination. C is definitely not right.
00:22:48
Speaker
God. This is like an excruciating privilege trial. You're just like, hey, fucking 40-year-old white guy.
00:23:00
Speaker
You appreciate your citizenship? How much do you appreciate it? You actually appreciate it to the point you appreciate how other people had to go through their trials to get their citizenship? ah I mean, this whole thing is just a humiliation ritual.
00:23:15
Speaker
Well, consider me called out for like the 19th time. I think it's gotta be the DACA decision. but Sorry, what was the first option again?
00:23:25
Speaker
ah A, retroactively to all individuals born to parents who are not American citizens at the time.
00:23:33
Speaker
Allow me to three give you a hint. Nobody in the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals is a citizen. We're giving hints? We're giving hints now? Can I call for friends or something? He gets a hint? How does this work?
00:23:46
Speaker
didn't even ask. He just got a hint voluntarily. I was literally sitting here trying to remember what the fuck is DACA. Yeah, it's It's got to be A. Retroactively to all individuals born to parents who are not American citizens at the time.
00:24:02
Speaker
As long as they're on American soil. Yeah. Any objections? No, that one's too dicey. No. So my thinking here is that DACA was like some constriction of that.
00:24:15
Speaker
Right. And I guess I'm wrong. DACA was basically had to do with ah persons who were brought to the US as very young children by their non-citizen parents and giving them a path to citizenship.
00:24:30
Speaker
ah So the answer actually is C, individuals born after February 19, 2025, because that's the date of the executive order. What?
00:24:42
Speaker
So the executive order was just like, hey, as of this date, You know, everybody born to non-citizens, y'all can't be American citizens. Preston. Oh, no.
00:24:54
Speaker
Which amendment contains the citizenship clause? Is it A, the Third Amendment, B, the Tenth Amendment, or C, the Fourteenth Amendment?
00:25:06
Speaker
Oh, I should really know this. This is bad Can you imagine if this was bad this was like open answer and not multiple choice? we'd't We'd all just go home.
00:25:18
Speaker
like they would yeah There be an episode. One of the two hosts said we should do that. And the other one was like, that's a bridge too far. I can't imagine which one suggested that it be the most evil possible version of this.
00:25:35
Speaker
Which of you could have possibly have been? Hey, it wasn't me. I raised my hand. It's Jarrett.
00:25:45
Speaker
We just wanted you all to have the same the same sort of pit in your stomach feeling that someone who goes through the bar exam feels.
00:25:55
Speaker
I'm sorry, Preston, you you were answering? Was I, though? I'm sorry, Preston, you were Googling furiously. I was talking you time, brother. Thank you so much.
00:26:05
Speaker
I'm going to just go with the 14th on this one. C, locking it in. When in doubt, go with C. Yep. Any objections? What were our options again? A, or C? It was third, tenth, or fourteenth. Yes, that those those were the options.
00:26:22
Speaker
Third is quartering soldiers. Tenth is dot, dot, dot. Fourteenth is involuntary servitude. Fuck, i don't know.
00:26:32
Speaker
You should probably stop.
00:26:36
Speaker
Stop what? Stop George Prudisky? Yeah, no, you should. So we yeah we don't know the answer is C, the 14th Amendment. Adam, the involuntary servitude one was the 13th Amendment.
00:26:49
Speaker
Fuck. Yeah. close. What's 14th? ah Basically, it promises due process of law and birthright citizenship. Close enough.
00:27:02
Speaker
Sarah. God, this is awful.
00:27:06
Speaker
Following the ruling in Trump v. Casa, can the Trump administration restrict birthright citizenship originally promised by the Constitution? A. Yes.
00:27:17
Speaker
B. No. C. We don't know.
00:27:25
Speaker
guys Guys, I think you know what I'm going go with here. I think I'm going to go today.
00:27:36
Speaker
Adam, your microphone cut out. Adam is yelling with such fervor that he's notable. I had to mute myself for a second. You guys have made me feel bad on a level that I didn't even know existed.
00:27:49
Speaker
and I both appreciate and respect and hate you at the same time for this revelation. God damn. I got some learn to do. Okay. yeah I'm going to meet myself for the next 40 minutes.
00:28:03
Speaker
My answer is C. I feel like I don't know. And I also know like like the answer choice. I don't know. We don't know. No one knows.
00:28:14
Speaker
Well, the answer is C. We don't know. There go. So... Wait, the Supreme Court is allowed to do that? Nobody knows. When you rule on a case and make a decision, but you don't know what the decision means. It's secret to everybody.
00:28:32
Speaker
So, the Supreme Court did not actually rule on the constitutionality of the executive order that restricted federal employees from processing citizen requests.
00:28:43
Speaker
Yeah.
00:28:45
Speaker
but u s territory so basically the question came up to the supreme court and the supreme court issued um ah find it ah ruling but they didn't rule on anything consent concerning the executive order So instead, they ruled on whether lower courts can issue nationwide injunctions.
00:29:06
Speaker
So can one court over here issue an injunction that stops an executive order everywhere? And in this case, the court limited injunctions to only those where um you know who were the party to the lawsuits.
00:29:23
Speaker
So they basically found a procedural issue. This is the recent one, right? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, it's all recent. Oh, I this one. Yeah. It's the worst. Yeah, there's this whole, hey, birthright citizenship. And then the justices were like, but you didn't follow this specific rule, though.
00:29:39
Speaker
So we're not deciding on any of this. Oh, God, it's so exhausting. Imagine how we felt looking through all these freaking cases. We live in the worst timeline.
00:29:53
Speaker
It was a lot. It was And you picked the best ones to torment us with. Lovely. So at the yeah the end of this round, the scores are ah Preston in the lead with four.
00:30:09
Speaker
Let's go. Sarah in second place with three. And was there you then we have Adam with one. Wait, you're really not allowing negative scores?
00:30:24
Speaker
You got something right. Oh, no, you're giving grace point. You fought for that one positive point, okay? Yeah, yep, yep. Okay, my one brain cell is rubbing against itself.
00:30:35
Speaker
It's going to get you guys. All right, take it away, Jared. Okay, let's get into round three.
00:30:48
Speaker
Yeah. Questions do... Some of them get easier and some of them get so much harder. i hope so. Okay. Round three.
00:30:59
Speaker
Preston... Which of the following cases did the court rule on concerning access to gender-affirming care for transgender minors? Was it A, no United States v. Scrumetti, B, AJT v. Osseo Area Schools, Independent School District No. 279, or C, the Department of Education v. Career Colleges and Schools of Texas?
00:31:27
Speaker
Shout out to Texas. It sounds like both two and Oh, no. You gotta pick one. When in doubt, what do we do? Not put that whatever Sarah's thinking. Yeah, I know. I know she's picking C. I feel like it just can't be C this time. It can't I'm going with B. I'm sorry, Sarah.
00:31:48
Speaker
We'll use your tactic next time. Don't apologize to me when you lose points.
00:31:55
Speaker
So you want to eject, Sarah? No.
00:31:59
Speaker
Why move? The answer is a United States V, Scrimetti. So not neither of what I was thinking of. All right. This is like my nightmares consolidated into a podcast.
00:32:14
Speaker
Congratulations. Sarah, which of the following states passed the law that's at the heart of the United States v. Scrimetti case? Is it a Texas, B, Tennessee, or C, Vermont?
00:32:29
Speaker
B, Tennessee. Yeah, which state hates trans people enough to actually whip this up into a Supreme Court case? I'm going with B. All right, locked it in. Any objections?
00:32:40
Speaker
I want to object. i want to say A. You're going wager two points for A? Sure, why not? Okay. that would do that I don't have points to wager, so I got nothing say.
00:32:50
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You have one point to wager. The correct answer is B, Tennessee. No, I lost points. Yeah. Not my points. My points. Who do you lose them to?
00:33:04
Speaker
The house? Yeah, they're just together they just into the ether at this point. yeah I should be able to absorb Any points? Well, hold on now. i don't This is the Dark Souls of Supreme Court podcast. yeah You get your answer wrong. You lose all points and you have to get one right in order to get any back. There's no house.
00:33:28
Speaker
The house is dead. The points go nowhere. your Your pain is what makes good radio. Oh, by the way, some trivia for this question. ah There's actually two states that were involved in this case. Not only Tennessee, but its neighbor to the North, Kentucky.
00:33:48
Speaker
Yep. That sounds like usual suspects. They were West Virginia. Adam, what was the ruling in United States v. Scrimetti? Was it A, six to three in favor of the Tennessee law, B, 5-4 in favor of the minors, the parents, and the medical professionals, or C, seven to two in favor of Tennessee? all right. Hold on. Let me try to context clue this ridiculously hard question. What year is this again?
00:34:20
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All of them are within like the past six months. Adam, this happened yesterday. no, a month and a half ago. God damn it.
00:34:32
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Most of these came came out at the end of the session in June. You can... you This is... Don't overthink this one. Yeah, you think long, you think wrong. I don't know why I'm helping you. It's 6-3.
00:34:48
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Any objections? What did he choose? a B, or C? He chose A.
00:34:55
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8 and 0. That's fine. A is correct. 6 to 3 in favor of Tennessee. I at least know what the contemporary Supreme Court composition is. If nothing else.
00:35:08
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See, we gave you one that you could process of elimination. Thank you. yeah We've given you the one. Yep. Had to like fucking it focus. Had to hey get present.
00:35:20
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I'm here. Okay. Sarah, according to the Movement Advancement Project, how many states have passed laws that ban transgender students from participating in sports consistent with their gender identity?
Discussion on Sports and Transgender Laws
00:35:34
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Is it A, 27, B, 31, or C, 29?
00:35:40
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twenty nine First off, all three of those answers are way too high. um Seriously. like They're basically the same number. Oh my God.
00:35:53
Speaker
um I am going to go, well, hold on, I need to pull up the, I for forgot. You two are the most evil test proctors on the face of the planet.
00:36:07
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The way that you have constructed your multiple choice questions to be unanswerable truly admirable. 27, 31, and are all the same value. they Statistically speaking, they're the same number.
00:36:23
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I could answer any of them and it would be correct because it's the same number. Yep. So with that, I'm going to go with C. My answer is C because I have doubts.
00:36:36
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So you think a good portion more than half of the country has issued... ah transgender bands. All these answers are a good portion, more than half. What are you, what?
00:36:51
Speaker
Are you trying to dissuade me from my answer? It sounds like it. That's exactly what it sounds like. Let fall on Okay. My answer is Now it's a pride thing.
00:37:06
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Don't take that away from me. ah Okay. Any objections? Oh, there should be a strong objection here, but I but don't know which direction to go into. Yeah, it didn't go well for you last time, Preston. Exactly. Can't lose all my points.
00:37:22
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Objection. I'm going 27. I'm locking that in. Locking it in. The answer is 27. Points. Fuck off. Points. 27 and 29 are the same number. will not hear it, okay? Adam.
00:37:39
Speaker
Adam. According to the Trans Legislation Tracker Project, which year were the first decidedly anti-trans bills passed by states?
00:37:51
Speaker
A, 97, B, 2006, or C, 2015? or c twenty fifteen Oh, this is easy, actually. This is 2015 because they had so many moral panics to cycle through before this one.
00:38:06
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Yeah, so 2015, easy. All right. Lock in and see any objections. No, I feel good about Adam's answer. They had it doesn't benefit me in any way. had like two decades of like railing against normal ass gay people.
00:38:22
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Yeah. Before they had like to rail against people whose identities were in crisis. Like, yeah, they're they're just like going down the funnel of people who are are vulnerable. yeah yeah C is correct. You may remember the infamous North Carolina bathroom bill, which was headline news at the time, known officially as the Public Facilities Privacy and Security Act, but more commonly as just HB2.
00:38:50
Speaker
The law was passed in 2016, amended in and repealed by its own Sunset Clause in
00:39:01
Speaker
and feel like if someone's like, oh, it's been repealed and you're like, good. And then you find out that it was repealed by its own self. Like there was a clause in it that was like, after five years, it it it doesn't almost like care about this anymore. Yeah. yeah Well, it' like like isn't that like that? That's the heritage of every bad tax bill that ever passed in this country.
00:39:24
Speaker
It sunsets its own self as soon as it becomes politically inconvenient.
00:39:30
Speaker
Okay. Okay. All right, make us feel bad about something else. Preston, what city was the first to pass protections for transgender people in the United States?
00:39:41
Speaker
Oh, you're right. They start getting easier. A, Columbus, B, Minneapolis, or C, San Francisco? Hmm.
00:39:52
Speaker
See, but in Dark Souls fashion, right? ah yeah San Francisco would send you like hurtling off a bridge somewhere. yeah That's a little shiny bit on the end of a, on the end of a precipice.
00:40:05
Speaker
It absolutely is. And you're never going get your souls back. um That's Columbus, Ohio, or definitely not Ohio. Yeah. yeah Minneapolis. Minneapolis feels compelling.
00:40:19
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It does. It does. It is pretty blue has I'm sorry, has this turned into a group project? I was hoping. I was hoping. Yeah, no, we're we're huddling together for warmth against these vicious assaults. All of the contestants have turned against the game and we're working together. Guys, this is the only way we'll survive is if we hold together and do this. This is the lesson they're trying to prove to us.
00:40:46
Speaker
One person has to win for it to end. Sorry, I'm here to kick ass. Okay. You're going to San Francisco. Okay. yeah Any objections?
00:40:59
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I object. So, objects. I think it's Minneapolis. You're to wager two points on Minneapolis. I'm going to wager two points. Keep my head down.
00:41:11
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Okay. It's going to be Columbus. The answer is B, Minneapolis. Wow. Yeah. Ah, she got the point. Wow. Gotta be cutthroat, okay?
00:41:25
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Yeah, so according to an article entitled Transgender Activism by Susan Stryker, in quote, in 1975, the city of Minneapolis became the first government entity in the United States to pass trans-inclusive civil rights protection legislation.
00:41:47
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Prior to that, a lot of transgender, I'm not so sure that there were necessarily a lot of transgender laws, ah but there was a lot of case law that said that was mostly about changing your gender on your official document records, and a lot of transgender people were denied that.
00:42:04
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I think this should be the new format for the show because I have learned so much this episode. Yeah.
00:42:12
Speaker
ah We have a bonus question for you all. Love it. Make me feel bad in a new way. Daily double. So for all of you, for one point. Is there an opportunity for me to lose all my points? Because I would love that.
00:42:27
Speaker
According to USA Facts, approximately what percentage of adults in the United States self-identify as transgender? Jeez. Is it A, so small as to basically be 0%, B, about 1%, or C, about 3% of the population? is this who's Who gets to answer this? Does anybody get to answer on this? Bonus question. Everybody should answer.
00:42:54
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There's no penalty, and you get one point if you're right. All right. going to go B. I think and think that's a good number. I'm going to go A. I think it's less than 1%.
00:43:06
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So it, okay. But not, not, not zero percent, but like, I think it's under 1%. Okay. okay i'm I'm extremely fucking cynical. 2% margin of error could easily be explained by the choices in this, in this survey. So if the choices are cisgender, transgender only, I would say 3%.
00:43:28
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If it's cisgender, transgender, i don't know. i not sure what the question means. answer is B. Okay. So I'm sorry, are you choosing B or C?
00:43:41
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I'm saying, I'm saying it depends on what the, up what the options to the question were. If the options were just cisgender or transgender, I'd say it's probably closer to C. If it's cisgender, transgender, I don't know. I'm not sure what the question means. Like if there's other options beyond those two, it's probably closer to B.
00:43:58
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and don't We don't have time for this. No, we do. This is important. i there is no There's no repercussions if you get this one wrong. It's a bonus.
00:44:10
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Adam needs these points more than anyone, so I understand where he's at. I'm not joking. don't have to be afraid just picking These motherfuckers, these captors who have put this into this fucking Saw scenario...
00:44:26
Speaker
have inured me to the fact that their questions are going to be hard as fuck. Adam, you're safe here. Laced with context. I want to know what the fucking terms of this agreement are.
00:44:38
Speaker
What were the answers to this question? The prison is in your mind. Yeah, probably. yes I can just sign off.
00:44:48
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I suspect the questions was male, female, transgender, or I don't want to say.
00:44:57
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So I was overthinking it by thinking cisgender was an option. This is what I'm telling you is inherent bias as a guy who lived in New York City is fucking up my entire perspective on these questions.
00:45:14
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My answer is A. Okay, so Adam's got A. ah Sarah, I think was A. Was also A and Preston is B. That's correct.
00:45:25
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Correct answer is B, 1%. Motherfucker! God damn it! The specific number, according to USA Facts, is 0.95%, which amounts to approximately 2.3 million adults. I said less than 1%.
00:45:42
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If we're following IRS rules, yeah, we round down to A. Did I not? 1%. 0.95 is less. Among schoolers... zero point nine five is less among high schoolers The proportion jumps to about 3.3% of students self-identifying as trans.
00:45:59
Speaker
That makes sense. Like I said, the circumstance of the fucking poll matter. All right, move on. Next question. self-identify as pissed off.
00:46:11
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and All right. Going into round four. Adam has three points. Great. Preston has four points.
00:46:23
Speaker
Yes. And Sarah has six points. No. Numbers are a fucking construct introduced by the ruling class to hold you down so that you can't do math.
00:46:35
Speaker
You're saying that because you're losing. i can't do math.
00:46:41
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here We are halfway through the game as we close out round three. We're on to round four, ah which will be, I'll hand it over to Nikki. Okay.
00:46:53
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Adam, a which of the following cases concerned the ATF's new regulations on ghost guns? Oh, now you got my attention. Was it A, Bondi v. Vanderstock?
00:47:06
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B, Asteris versus United States. Or C, Smith & Wesson Brands Incorporated versus Estados Unidos Mexicanos. There so much to unpack in all of those filings. So much.
00:47:23
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Okay. So Bondi versus Vanderstock, Attorney General of Florida suing a company called Vanderstock, which like totally sounds like a 3D printed gun company.
00:47:34
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that this whole thing feels right. Yeah. so Asteris versus United States. That's somebody suing the United States. That doesn't feel right for this case whatsoever. And Smith and Wesson suing Estatus Unitas Mexicanos.
00:47:48
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That doesn't sound right either. I think it's an number A. Yep. Number A. The number that is A. Any objections?
00:47:58
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All right. No. Hearing none, ah the answer is a Bondi versus Vanderstock. That's how I got an awesome SAT score. Spots elimination. get remember the answers are a number number a oh yeah so is Number A. Number A. It is the first letter, everybody.
00:48:19
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The best one. All right, Preston. ah What was the ruling in Bondi, sorry. Yeah, go fuck yourself, Preston. What don
00:48:32
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what was the ruling in Bondi versus Vanderstock? Was it A, 7-2 in favor of the ATF, B, five four in favor of the ATF, or C, five four in favor of the Ghost Gun supporters?
00:48:54
Speaker
Wow. Really throwing me under the bus here. um I want to say 7-2 in favor of the ATF because feel like nobody really likes a ghost gun, right?
00:49:07
Speaker
Like, how could you be on the side of a ghost gun supporter? I do. At the same time. I'm kidding. er It's either A or B, but that feels right, yeah. Yeah, i'm im I'm going to go All right. Any objections?
00:49:22
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No, that feels right. All right. And the answer is Yes. It was 7-2 in favor of the ATF. Wow. Another win for number a And Sarah...
00:49:37
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Which liberal justice joined the conservative majority? was definitely Justice Mike. Was it? and Was it A, Kagan, B, Jackson, or C, all of them?
00:49:57
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like all of the ones you just said like Kagan and Jackson are like all of them as in like every liberal justice yeah psych it was a liberal justice uh okay well I'm gonna go with C objections yeah 100% yeah i was ten years totally Kagan Kagan is the most conservative of the liberal justices I'll let i'll let him ride write out this objection I'll just sit back and see what happens so Preston hasn't really had good luck with objections recently. All right. So Adam objects and he says a um Wait, actually, I think C is totally wrong at this point now that I actually use my critical ri thinking skills, but I am not going to back down.
00:50:44
Speaker
So I'm still going to C. Yep, that's good. You have to act with confidence in this lifetime. That's actually the first test of being a Supreme Court justice is never back down. When in doubt, brazen it out. Never.
00:50:54
Speaker
Yep. All right. Well, the answer is C, all of them. Oh, motherfucker. Wow. What? No. Wait, seriously? who Who objected on this one?
00:51:05
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So the two dissenting justices were Thomas and Alito. Seriously? Seriously. ghost guns. Wait, who won this case? No, they, they, wait, they- i don't know.
00:51:18
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They ruled. the thats So, yeah, they they were the ones who ruled against the the ATF, but everybody else ruled in favor. That's insanity to me.
00:51:29
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Thomas is a monster. He's a little crazy. Yeah. So, Preston, ah what defines a ghost gun?
00:51:41
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Is it a any firearm manufactured or homemade that lacks a serial number or has had its serial number removed? B, a gun that is built privately, often from a kit and not registered with a government authority?
00:51:57
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Or C, any firearm that has been materially modified after its manufacture? these like ah These are like FBI entrance exam questions. holy shit I feel like it has to be either A or B. Could you please repeat those answers again?
00:52:14
Speaker
Okay, so it's a gun with no serial number. What's the B or C? ah B is a gun that is built privately, often from a kit, and not registered with a government authority. Implying it has no serial number in addition to those criteria. Okay. yeah you just yeah The big difference between A and B is the bell rapidly A, it could have been built by a manufacturer, whereas B is it was not built by a manufacturer.
00:52:37
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yeah I'm going to go strong with A on this one. Number a And Adam C, was any firearm materially modified after its manufacture? Okay. So Preston says A. Yeah.
00:52:48
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A feels right. I would like to object. Oh. Whoa. Yes. How dare you, first all. My answer is going to be B. All right. Sarah objects and she says B. Hmm.
00:53:01
Speaker
All right. ah And the answer is B. No. Go. Okay. Put me in the Yeah. So what is what do they call a gun that just lacks a serial number? though Yeah. it' but No.
00:53:18
Speaker
She's like, no no, my answer was right. She's like, I got seven of those. again Although I think Jarrett might have some trivia related to that. Please tell us more. Okay. Um, nothing specific. I just, the definitions here are very specific. ah A ghost gun is a gun made from a kit or like 3D printed.
00:53:40
Speaker
And so the idea is that, It's not that you like filed off the serial number. It's that the government never knew it existed in the first place for it to ever ever had a serial number. It's never part of the chain of custody. yeah Exactly.
00:53:52
Speaker
Manufacturing process. Okay. Hey, I'm well informed. Okay. I'll just say that. Oh, well, then this one's for you, Sarah. Oh, good. I'm ready. If you kill a man in the specific county that you live in right now.
00:54:07
Speaker
I'm to say this one is is ah is it's really hard, but it's also funny. So, in describing the way a kit is like a weapon, what did the court compare ghost guns to?
00:54:22
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um dear God. A, a string of notes being called a song. B, a collection of ingredients gathered in a kitchen being called a cake.
00:54:34
Speaker
Or C, an Ikea purchase being called a table. B, So wait, this was an argument made by the government.
00:54:44
Speaker
No, this wasn't an argument. This was in the actual written opinion, the written finding. Okay. it was Wow. The majority opinion. yeah Interesting.
00:54:57
Speaker
This is really interesting question. This really makes you get into the mind of a, of a Supreme court justice, whoever wrote this opinion. like I'm i getting into your mind as to how you came up with the two answers that weren't the right one.
00:55:13
Speaker
That's a long way around, but all right. yeah If it helps you, I didn't actually write this question or its answers. So target Nikki on this one.
00:55:26
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ah think B is right. and do as well. C is too nuanced for the Supreme Court justices to come up with. A is way too poetic.
00:55:38
Speaker
B feels right. For guns, yeah. But cake... cake. Everyone relates to cake. Everybody relates to cake. All right. so So your answer is b B. Oh, yeah. i was any Any objections?
00:55:57
Speaker
None. Nope. All right. ah The answer was C. Fuck! Jesus Christ. Why are they talking about Ikea? Why are they name dropping? Why are they bringing Ikea into this? Because literally one of them went to Ikea like a week ago.
00:56:13
Speaker
Yeah, that's what I said. i read it and was like, seriously? want home. Quote, a friend might speak of the table, italicized. He just bought at Ikea, even though hours of assembly remain ahead of him.
00:56:28
Speaker
And I was like, what lived experience informed this? You have no idea what a 3D printer is. Okay. Well, they did talk about, um so they they did talk about, there was some, well, when they talked about Ikea, they were talking about, um it was like a whole discussion about grammar, basically, and and I can't even remember the full.
00:56:55
Speaker
description. um But basically there was some discussion of the kit and how, you know, there's some kits where you can have, it's all the parts you take half an hour, you have a gun.
00:57:07
Speaker
And then there's other kits where, You know, it's, there's like major pieces that are technically like missing. You need very specialized tools. It's like a whole thing um where it's very, very difficult to make it a gun.
00:57:21
Speaker
But ah yeah, in in describing how a kit can be construed as a weapon, they there was this comparison with with a table from Ikea. Oh, wow.
00:57:32
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um The Supreme Court should not be ruling on any matters of firearms, sounds like.
00:57:42
Speaker
Oh, Lord. All right, Adam. According to USA Facts, who is responsible for 70% of the crime guns tracked by the ATF?
00:57:53
Speaker
No, you're not. No, hold on. Wait a second. it's It's a multiple choice. Mm-hmm. So... So is it... You don't have to think of an answer yourself.
00:58:05
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Is it A, gun manufacturers? Is it B... Dealers, someone in the business of selling or repairing firearms, or C, pawnbrokers.
00:58:20
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What's the difference between B and C? I think pawnbrokers, they have like a whole store full of all kinds of different things. And some of those things might be guns versus dealers where they're just specifically what they're doing dealing with.
00:58:36
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Yeah, dealer would be like going to a gun store. So I feel like this one 100% comes down to what proportion of US states allow pawnbrokers to sell guns, which I am not informed about.
00:58:52
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Otherwise, my answer would be Hmm. You locking it in No. USA facts? That sounds like it's some lowest common denominator bullshit. Actually, going with A.
00:59:06
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Number a Number hey USA Facts blames the people who make the guns for the guns going pew pew. That sounds right. Yep.
00:59:18
Speaker
A. Locked in. None at this time. All right. Nothing. ah The answer is B. So dealers. 70% of the crimes.
00:59:33
Speaker
Pawnbrokers are responsible for 23% of crime guns tracked by the ATF. Gun manufacturers have been ah linked with 6%. My reductionist bullshit bites me in the ass again. We really are having a rough go at this one.
00:59:47
Speaker
They really keep pulling the rug up under you. It's been a long day, guys. i don't know what to say. 70% of guns used in crimes that the ATF has tracked came from like a gun store, basically.
01:00:01
Speaker
Sounds really fucking reductionist when you sounded like that. Like, yeah, of course. People buy guns at the gun store. mean, I'm not surprised if someone would see like, you know, pawnbrokers, you think like, oh, nefarious person went to get a gun from a pawnbroker. Shady dealing. It's like, actually, no, most people who could commit crimes with guns got their guns in a legitimate matter.
01:00:22
Speaker
You could just go to Walmart or if iron was stolen from them, you know, 100 percent. So so I immediately started to try to read the inherent bias into this question. it was like, USA facts. Who is who is responsible? They're trying to pin it on someone.
01:00:35
Speaker
know This is China, you know, attribute give attribution to our sources. no I was assuming inherent malice on the part of USA facts, like from established like like precedent to sue the gun manufacturers. Like, yes, manufacturers, you are responsible for 70% of all bad things that happen ever.
01:00:55
Speaker
All right, well. Ask someone else an embarrassing question. 6% of people who you, I mean, 6% of guns coming from straight from the manufacturer is like calling up Smith and Wesson and be like, no, no, no, I'm just, I'm cutting out the middle man. Send me my weapon for crime.
01:01:13
Speaker
I heard you got a new gun. I'll take seven. All right. hey And at the end of round four, the scores are- we don't have to do this.
01:01:25
Speaker
Oh, we do. We do. We're doing this. Sarah in the lead with nine. Mm-hmm. Followed by Preston with five. Oh, no. I'm dropping off. And then Adam with two. Don't worry, buddy. ah I think there was a lot of wagering going on. I think Adam was a playing craps.
01:01:45
Speaker
Never give up. No, I'm just crap. Yeah. ah i well I will say the wagers have been but not super successful.
01:01:58
Speaker
No, no, they have not. Unless you're me. Yeah, I mean, Sarah's climbed out of that hole that she dug at the very beginning. But for the most part, for everybody else... Seemingly highly ego-driven.
01:02:10
Speaker
It definitely feels like the only time a wager is put out there, an objection is made, is when the person is right. When someone's partially aggrieved.
01:02:22
Speaker
Yeah. Are you all ready for round five? Only two rounds left. no I'm ready. All right. That's good. Cause you are up next Sarah, which of the following cases concerned reverse discrimination in employment law?
01:02:40
Speaker
Was it A, Pertu v. Richards, B, Kennedy v. Braidwood Management Incorporated, Ames v. Ohio Department of Youth Services?
01:02:52
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C. All right, locking it in. Any objections? every Every bone in my body is telling me to object, but it's it's such a bad thing to do.
01:03:05
Speaker
I mean, you could always you could always try. no, I'm not. My instincts are telling me that Sarah is preternaturally lucky, so I'm going go with C. All right.
01:03:20
Speaker
The answer is see ah Yeah. Never fails. Preston, that was a good call by you to not. Yes, it was. i of yeah Hey, you you're the one you brought the ah the idea to the table. i was just supporting a friend.
01:03:35
Speaker
You know, was something you wanted to do. was going to I was going to be in your corner, but 100% supportive. It's very beautiful.
Reverse Discrimination Case: Ames vs. Company
01:03:43
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and i'm going to catch shit for this one. Adam, what was the ruling in Ames v. Ohio Department of Youth Services?
01:03:50
Speaker
Was it six to three in favor of the Ohio Department of Youth Services, 7-2 in favor of the Ohio Department of Services, or C, in favor of Ames?
01:04:01
Speaker
in favor of aims Will you do me the dignity of telling me what the basic terms of Ames versus Ohio Department of Youth Services was again? Don't give me.
01:04:11
Speaker
No. Hold on. I have to check what the ah the remaining questions are about this case before I give you any more information. Of course. Couldn't give me too much. Yeah.
01:04:23
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No, I think you can. You can. Yes, you can. Ames was an employee of the Ohio Department of Youth Services who said that because they were straight and all of the other people in the office were gay, that's why they were denied a promotion.
01:04:44
Speaker
7-2. All right, Locken in Any objections? Locken in B. Hearing none, ah the answer is C, a unanimous decision for Ames.
01:04:57
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Yeah. Unanimous? Unanimous decision Ames. This was in the last six months? Mm-hmm. This was like, I think, 30 days ago we in the end of July. Yeah, this just happened.
01:05:10
Speaker
Mm-hmm. Madness. Wow. Okay, well. Taking L's from all sides right now. yeah ah June 5th. yeah Yeah, that was yesterday.
01:05:22
Speaker
said um That was actually this morning. yep Yep. Metric system as checks out. yeah but I feel like Sarah has all the luck. like she does you just I'm starting to think she's actually just informed.
01:05:36
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What did I say? ok When in doubt, pick C. But like, how often am I even doubting? Right? Maybe I am informed. I don't know what's going on. Okay. All
01:05:48
Speaker
all right. Preston. Sorry, Jared. I do need to get this. I do know that
01:05:56
Speaker
I am winning so hard right now. And in the end, isn't that what matters? That's the only thing that matters. Yeah. Sorry for being cutthroat. All right, Jared, continue.
01:06:09
Speaker
ah All right. Preston, who wrote the unanimous decision in Ames v. Ohio Department of Youth Services? Was it A, Justice Gorsuch, B, Justice Jackson, or C, Justice Barrett?
01:06:26
Speaker
oh This is literally just like a shot in the dark. There's just no way I would ever know. I'm going to go with Gorsuch. Does anybody object? think Sarah wants to object.
01:06:38
Speaker
I think Sarah knows. She's informed. I would like to save my astronomical lead. so
01:06:49
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I'm going to remain silent. I actually feel like Gorsuch is right. So, yeah. All right. Locking in n a Number The answer is B. Yeah. Oh my God.
01:07:04
Speaker
It was, yeah. Justice Jackson wrote the unanimous decision in this case. why Don't worry, there's still um several questions left.
01:07:17
Speaker
Although I think there are, for anyone looking to maybe win this thing, I think some objections are going to be necessary. I think this is genuinely the new format for the show. This is really because about like an hour ago cursing my and my lineage.
01:07:35
Speaker
That's evidence that you're doing a great job of keeping me on my toes as a guest on this show. Well, let's see how this one goes. Adam, the woman who filed the lawsuit against Ohio had been hired on as their administrator of the Prison Rape Elimination Act.
01:07:53
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Who signed the Prison Rape Elimination Act into law? Was it A, Bill Clinton, B, George W. Bush, or C, Barack Obama? Who among these venerated statesmen hated prison rape the most?
01:08:09
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That's the question before us. no I'm going to guess that... Excuse me for a moment. but jehoa joe what do you Whichever one you select, you're what you're really saying is the other two support prison rape.
01:08:26
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Yeah. Please give me a moment while I laugh so hard that I almost throw up.
01:08:38
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um Okay. Listen. What do you do when you're in doubt? I'm a firm believer that Barack Obama hates prison rape.
01:08:49
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one We know we can be like certain of that. also going to go on record and say that Bill Clinton did not give a shit about prison rape.
01:09:00
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So I'm going to be George W. Bush because he was the compassionate conservative in chief.
01:09:09
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Okay. Any objections? Any objections?
01:09:18
Speaker
Yeah, fuck it. i'll object um I'll object. One point because you think he's wrong or two points and you want to answer? I'm going to do just one. Three points. I want to fight.
01:09:29
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I'm just going to wager one point that Adam is wrong. All right. I'm getting spicy and I like it. Generally or in this specific context?
01:09:42
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I mean, hey, you know. It's not important, actually. All right, locking it in. ah The correct answer is B, George w it was My risk was so small, I'm still winning by just so much.
01:09:58
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We got to keep drawing her in like this. Yeah.
01:10:02
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Alliances begin to form. Which is easily baited. i knew that like my my gloating would start to hurt me at some point. Maybe maybe that's beginning.
01:10:14
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knew that my idolism of George W. Bush would eventually pay off. What did you say? Our compassionate, conservative... That's what he billed himself as when he ran. Yeah, he labeled himself that way. know that you were literally four years old when this happened. I am a baby, okay? So...
01:10:30
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Yeah. He built himself as a capacitive conservative. and that And you know what's what's interesting or not interesting, but just kind of dates me is that I remember Jay Leno joking about that. Yeah.
01:10:41
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Yeah. Us old people had to live through that administration. I protested his administration when I could walk.
01:10:52
Speaker
All right, moving on. Preston, who lobbied for the passage of the Prison Rape Elimination Act? Was it A, Amnesty B, the NAACP,
01:11:06
Speaker
or C, the Southern Baptist Convention? Oh, God. And I'm just going to say... Nothing. You're going to say nothing. Okay, fine. Okay. No, what are you to say, Mickey? Don't silence her, okay? There's a neutral argument in this contest.
01:11:22
Speaker
Wait. Well, first, let's press the beats answer the question. oh this is so difficult. I have to answer the question? They didn't all join forces to contest this? I swear to God, they have all just been one. They've just been like, prison rape is bad.
01:11:39
Speaker
But maybe the Southern Baptists were like, mm, no. Stay away from that video. What is Amnesty International even? like What do they do? They're they're like a human rights organization. We're all about Amnesty for people, right? God damn, this is so terrible.
01:12:03
Speaker
The NAACP just feels targeted and right for so many reasons. It's a fucking honeypot right there. I know, know, guys. Oh, God. You're definitely wrong. I can help you with that process of validation. No, I don't trust you. You've been sinking points.
01:12:22
Speaker
Amnesty International. We'll go with letter number a Number a a Does anybody want to object?
01:12:34
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I'm just saying, I will say because Jarrett can't silence me, that if anybody wants to object, now's the time to do it. Out of all these three parties, they feel like most would be like, yeah, you know what? Rape's wrong.
01:12:48
Speaker
No, you know what? I'll object. Yeah. Please do. But I'm going to just, again, wager one point that Preston is wrong. are you go Are you going to pick any other answer? you have to pick the NAACP or the Southern Baptist Convention? Aren't I allowed to just aren't i allowed to just wager one point that he to to say that he's not right, but I don't have to actually choose what the correct answer is? No, Sarah, which one is more anti-rape, NAACP or Southern Baptist Convention?
01:13:18
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You have to pick.
01:13:21
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That's the whole nature of objecting. It's meant that you have staked out a position. I rescind my objection. Yeah, if you object for one point, your objection is you are betting that Preston is wrong.
01:13:36
Speaker
That's what I did. you are betting that the NAACP or the Southern Baptist Convention is more pro-rape than the other by order of elimination. Please choose. I want to hear it.
01:13:50
Speaker
go home i don't want to choose i don't want to play chariot all right all right all right all right i was gonna wager one point that preston is wrong yes and preston is locked in nikki all right uh so the correct answer is all of them Oh, you dirty.
01:14:13
Speaker
ah That's what we all said at the outset. listen We all get points for this question. no i I would burn this game down. I'm sorry. You do understand in a multiple choice test, you are allowed to put D all of the above.
01:14:32
Speaker
And we all buked the fucking rules to say d all the above. All these people are anti-rape. That feels like a unanimous and conscientious, I must say, decision by all of us. yeah No, that was dirty.
01:14:47
Speaker
Nikki, when you wrote this question, because Nikki wrote this question, what was your opinion on what would happen to somebody who objected just that the other person was wrong?
01:14:58
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Did they lose the point because the other person was right? I thought it was going to descend into chaos. Wow. So this has just been ah social experiment. You put all into strict prisoner's dilemma where we were we like,
01:15:12
Speaker
Who is more pro-rape, NAACP or the Southern Baptist Convention? You literally made me say that on tape. Can you imagine if I would have chosen one?
01:15:23
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You made me pause at the hypothetical. If you had chosen one, you would have been you would have gotten two points.
01:15:31
Speaker
All right. Technically, Preston was still wrong because he only answered one out of the three. I think we all get several points for doing a good job.
01:15:43
Speaker
Why was a D an option? As the ref, I am going to rule that Preston gets one point and that's a wash on Sarah's objection. Wow. That is... I'll take the points....some bullshit, but okay.
01:15:59
Speaker
yeah Okay. I'm going to file a complaint with somebody. I'm going to burn both your computers down. Nikki brought me that one and I was like, yeah, sure. If if that's how you want to play it.
01:16:15
Speaker
Yeah. You want to wage war against me with PowerPoint? I'll fucking show you.
01:16:22
Speaker
All right, moving on. Sarah, in what year did sexual orientation become a protected class for the purposes of determining employment discrimination?
01:16:34
Speaker
A, 1964, B, C, 2020? There's another trick question. right, the answer is none of them. yeah None of the above?
01:16:50
Speaker
Yeah, now this can go either way. Yeah, the answer is D. Fuck you. Yeah. ah um
01:16:59
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A protected class? I'm gonna go with 1991, so my answer that's locked in today is going to be B. Okay, Sarah locks in B. Any objections?
01:17:12
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Yeah. C. Oh, I'm wagering two points for C. Okay. C was the year that we went like bizarrely, anomalously woke for like six months.
01:17:29
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I'm going to say it just happened then because it definitely didn't happen in 1964. I feel like 2020, as a nation, we were busier with other things. Wait, if if I back if i'm back the objection, can we split the points? if No.
01:17:46
Speaker
yeah fuck Get off my bandwagon. Adam beat you to the
01:17:53
Speaker
Okay. 1964, the concept of sexual orientation did not exist. I don't know what was happening back then, and I don't really want to know. In 1991, you were either straight or gay or in the camps.
01:18:06
Speaker
And in 2020, we had this unusual period of woke. So I'm going to see. it see yeah and Okay. Sarah's locked in B. Adam has objected. Wager two points for C. And the answer is...
01:18:21
Speaker
C, 2020. God damn I'm lucky sometimes. I mean... Actually, that it's just that I remember the last five years and nothing else. Scoreboard.
01:18:34
Speaker
Yes. Thank you. Thank you for that prodding, Sarah. At the end of round five, our penultimate round, the scores are Adam with five, Preston with six, so Adam's right on his heels, and Sarah with nine, which is not an insurmountable lead.
01:18:51
Speaker
Wow. Only one of the prime number for a score.
01:18:58
Speaker
And now I will turn it on over to Nikki for the final round. Everybody focus. all right. Preston. Fucking focused. Which of the following cases concerned whether or not a man sentenced to death should get a new trial because the prosecution may have suppressed ah evidence that would have helped him?
Legal Case Discussions and Predictions
01:19:18
Speaker
Oh, that's T. So A is Hewitt versus United States. B is the United States versus Miller. And C is Glossop versus Oklahoma.
01:19:32
Speaker
Okay. See, but the the way you posed the question makes me think it could be more than one. She wouldn't do that twice. And if she did... I don't believe that at all.
01:19:43
Speaker
I feel like it could have been seven questions in a row that would have done that. Everyone versus everyone else. ah and
01:19:57
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If you Google um ah roll a three-sided die, that might help. There you go. I'm going to do a Number A. Number a Any objections?
01:20:15
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All right. ah The answer was C. Glossop versus
Analyzing United States v. Miller
01:20:21
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Oklahoma. Oh, no. Why is it always C?
01:20:25
Speaker
It's always C. It's always b I should have objected. I knew it in my bones. I just knew it. Glossop, that's too good of a name to not be a correct answer.
01:20:37
Speaker
You know, actually, if we had thought for a second, we could have easily deducted that. United States v. Miller. The United States would never sue on behalf of like... No. are Yeah, that one had to not be... you would be United States, I don't think that that would actually be plausible for a prosecution appeal.
01:20:55
Speaker
Glossop v. Oklahoma appealing views versus is the state's
Roles and Banter Among Participants
01:20:59
Speaker
prosecution. That makes a lot of sense. I should...
01:21:05
Speaker
I don't know shit, man. I'm wagging here. none of us That's why I'm here, isn't it? That's why. I'm here to state opinions with certitude.
01:21:17
Speaker
That's why you brought me here. That is what keeps the wig powdered.
01:21:25
Speaker
i mean, the wig isn't even on today. It's like on the floor. It's full of lies.
01:21:33
Speaker
That's what keeps puffy. and So, Sarah. Yeah, what was the ruling, Sarah? Tell us. What was the ruling in Glossop v. Oklahoma? yeah Was it A, in favor of Oklahoma, B, 6-2 in favor of the man sentenced to death, or C, in favor of the man sentenced to death?
01:21:56
Speaker
Yeah, Sarah, you're always telling us about your encyclopedic knowledge of Supreme Court cases. um Which was it? Yeah, it was... What was the case again?
01:22:06
Speaker
but Yeah. Sarah, which one was it? Glossop versus Oklahoma.
Execution Rates and Political Factors
01:22:11
Speaker
No, I know. But like, what what was the what was the the subject matter? consider specifically It whether or not a man sentenced to death should get a new trial because the prosecution may have suppressed ah exculpatory evidence.
01:22:24
Speaker
So evidence that would have helped his defense. Right, right, right. Okay. And we're talking about the state of Oklahoma. No, the nation. Sorry. In the future of 2017. I don't know how any of this information helps you get to answer, but I'm here for it.
01:22:45
Speaker
ah I'm going to go with C because Because you don't know and that's what you do. C for cat. No, no, no. oh He's leading you into a falsehood security.
01:23:00
Speaker
It's been C the last, what, three times? It's gotta be DRA. It's gonna be c We're mitigating this time. It can't be C. It can't be. and There's no that way they would do that. Are you objecting?
01:23:13
Speaker
Statistical impossibility. Are you taking the risk, Preston? a Can I do that whole one-point thing where I just... Wager that she's wrong? She's wrong, yeah.
01:23:25
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah, let's do that. I join your objection. ah Nope. but what What did we say about bandwagoning? Like two questions ago. That wasn't allowed.
01:23:35
Speaker
100% A. So the answer is B. Fuck. So Preston gets the point.
01:23:48
Speaker
It was six two in favor of the man sentenced to death. Well taken. Wait, so i decided how does that split bet work? Do I lose points? Nothing happens to see you because you didn't.
01:24:01
Speaker
Your objection was too late. but In the spirit in spirit of the game, Adam does lose a point. He loses all his points.
01:24:12
Speaker
Let's continue. Yes. All right, Adam. Oh, God. Popping off. Popping off. Yeah. Which justice recused themselves from the case?
01:24:24
Speaker
Was it Barrett, B, Gorsuch, or C, Kagan? Oh, it was like literally 90 seconds ago that we talked about this case. What was the terms of the case?
01:24:38
Speaker
Glossop v. Oklahoma. yeah ah It concerned whether a man who was sentenced to death should get a new trial because the prosecution may have suppressed evidence that helped his defense.
01:24:49
Speaker
And the ruling was 6-2 in favor of the man sentenced to death. um no God, who is going to recuse themselves from this case?
01:25:00
Speaker
And why? There's no logic that helps you here. We don't need to know why. It's Barrett. Nope, nope. Gorsuch. B. All right.
01:25:11
Speaker
When in doubt, going to go to Gorsuch from now on. Any objections? I would like to wager one point that Adam is wrong. You should because my instincts are terrible. All right.
01:25:22
Speaker
ah So the answer is B, Gorsuch. Fuck. And Sarah, you lose a point. 60% of the time, I'm right every time. I can't. Just so we're clear now, um heading into sort of the last couple of questions.
01:25:39
Speaker
This game is almost tied. Very tight. Oh, God. but Adam was six. Adam was six, Preston was seven, Sarah was eight. Ooh.
01:25:50
Speaker
So Gorsuch did not provide a reason why he recused himself. But he did- he did He did previously rule against Glossop on a different matter when he was on the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals. Okay, so it's personal.
01:26:07
Speaker
yeah He literally said, fuck this guy. yeah Interestingly enough, ah the ah the Republican Attorney General of Oklahoma joined the defense in this case, arguing that the man should be granted a new trial.
01:26:22
Speaker
Wow. Yeah. Dub. Holy shit. Yeah. Okay. The Supreme Court's pension for murder will not go unrequited.
01:26:35
Speaker
So, no, the Supreme Court ruled that he should get a new trial. he They were like, no, the the prosecution fucked around too much. Like, we got to do this all over again. so Don't, don't quench my... Don't make him feel better.
01:26:48
Speaker
hit im wrong. Tell me I'm wrong. So, Sarah... Which of these states has the highest per capita rate of execution?
01:27:01
Speaker
Yeah, let's go. Is it A, Oklahoma, B, Texas, or C, New York? This is fun. This is a fun one.
01:27:14
Speaker
Oklahoma. I'm weirding my point that that's wrong. Wow. Wow. that ah That's an objection. That's an objection. I'm going to also object.
01:27:27
Speaker
Yeah. Okay. Sorry. Has this been a thing where people, like multiple people can object? thought it was like like one person. There's one objection per question.
01:27:38
Speaker
You have to beat them to the bunch. Not everybody gets participation medal. Let's have a mini trial.
01:27:51
Speaker
He can have points. I just hope everyone has fun. well now So now you want us to have fun. Okay. So the answer is A, Oklahoma.
01:28:04
Speaker
Yeah, that's by far. sorry, you're sure you don't want Adam to be able to wager that point? I told you my instincts are terrible. Doesn't even matter. I'm still winning. Preston loses the- I like seeing the two of them tied, you know?
01:28:19
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, x Oklahoma has the highest per capita execution rate. It's 3.101 executions per 100,000 residents by far. Maybe thinking of Kansas, but I thought Oklahoma was kind of like contentious, like partially like winning over the blue- They're kind of crazy up there. but No, i think I'm thinking of Kansas. Yeah. And I figured that Texas had like more grandstanding politicians who were like, we're going to execute the people who are doing bad stuff.
01:28:48
Speaker
I mean, they probably just don't do it on the books here in Texas. Yeah. There's a giant illegal execution. I mean, this state is so big and mostly just like open land. Like, who knows? You're here to hear first that Supreme Court Justice Sarah is talking about the extrajudicial execution rig in Texas.
01:29:09
Speaker
She knows something. Which I definitely don't know anything about. She knows something. Supreme Court Justice. yep anyone knows, it's her. Adam. Oh, God.
01:29:21
Speaker
Which state has the highest number of executions per death sentence? So death sentences get, you know, people get sentenced to death, which case, which state has the highest number of like ratio of executions? Yeah, of course you give me the question with the most loaded number of variables you're going pick at.
01:29:41
Speaker
A is Florida. B is Virginia. And C is Wisconsin.
01:29:49
Speaker
This is the most silently that you've pondered a question yet Yeah, because this is the trickiest trick question that they've asked me yet. Highest number of executions per death sentence.
01:30:03
Speaker
Yeah. So that means how, what, how, what's the, which state successfully actually. sure yeah Yeah. So like penalty most. Yeah. They follow through. They don't fall off with the, with the appeals and so many variables at play here.
01:30:17
Speaker
ah There's the variable of like, if a state sentences, very few people to death, they're probably intending to follow through with it. right ah There's the the whole variable that if you sentence someone to death, like they could be at death row for many, many, many years and that might be subject to state ah appeal rules.
01:30:36
Speaker
and Or you could just be Florida. you know said and then Florida is an option. You make a compelling point that Florida is one of my three options.
01:30:48
Speaker
yeah when in doubt, if something terrible is at play, I'm going to guess that Florida is probably worse than Wisconsin for sure.
01:30:59
Speaker
Virginia, that's the toss up. Virginia feels like a place where there are a bunch of very, very, very serious federal prosecutors, right? And there are people who are like going to sentence people to death and like mean it.
01:31:12
Speaker
Florida is like Jim Bob murdered 45 people again. Like, he's done... He done done dung gone blown up the meth factory. Like, they're not serious.
01:31:23
Speaker
Like, he's gonna... He's gonna escape again. I'm gonna go with Virginia. Any objections? I have filibustered long enough.
01:31:36
Speaker
It feels almost like you are going to object on your own answer. Can I wager one point to object against myself? yeah I would rather be closer to right than then you'd get the points. And if not, then I'm legendarily wrong.
01:31:53
Speaker
Can I bet against myself? you know it's be And I will double down if I'm given the opportunity. Any objections?
01:32:03
Speaker
No, not this close to the end. No, I'm not objecting. i logic myself into this answer and I'm not logicing myself out. And the answer is B, Virginia. By far, actually.
01:32:17
Speaker
Oh, was my intuition correct? It's like it's this feels like the home of serious prosecutors. So according to the Death Penalty Information Center, there's a history of ah just issues, like just poor defense representation, as they say.
01:32:33
Speaker
quote, yeah quote the most draconian procedural rules in the country. So like- that's what i get That's kind of what I meant. yeah So like if somebody's lawyer slips up and like misses a filing deadline, up that guy's got to get put to death.
01:32:50
Speaker
All right, they're dying. public your public so Your public service sucks. Just terrible. Virginia was like, when people were sentenced, Virginia was following through. So, but there've been changes. There were changes made to jury instructions and, and the creation of sort of these regional Capitol defender officers.
01:33:08
Speaker
So death sentences declined significantly. And in 2021, Virginia abolished the death penalty. Uh, even so they're still top of the list, um, because they were, they were doing it when, when they were.
01:33:21
Speaker
ah We're going to revisit these stats in a year now that we have an alligator theme concentration camp. florida but Yes. Yes. ah a little For the sake of strategy, the following question is the last question we will address to a single contestant.
01:33:36
Speaker
Let's go. Followed by a bonus question. so if like this is your For anyone who wants to object, this is your last opportunity to object. Bladed weapons will be legal this round.
01:33:48
Speaker
All right. Preston. Which state has the most people on death row? ah a Texas, b Michigan, or C, California?
01:34:04
Speaker
Oh, spicy question. So, you know, again, using the whole skip my way to logic thing. i say to you I want to lean California just because, you know, they're blue, hopefully.
01:34:20
Speaker
They have a lot of people sentenced to death, but just kind of keep them there for a while. But Texas could just be rounding brown people up and just, you know, throwing them on death row.
01:34:36
Speaker
I'm going California. I'm going to go with my gut. I object. Object. Ugh. California has no death sentence. Texas. Sarah objected first. Texas.
01:34:47
Speaker
Oh, so you're wagering two points? I... And betting it at all.
01:34:55
Speaker
And by it all, I mean two points on Texas. All
01:35:01
Speaker
right. All right. ah So the answer is C, California. Really? Bang, bang. I thought California had no death sentence. So so couple of things about that. First of all, this is where population, just sheer numbers. Oh, federal prisons.
01:35:19
Speaker
ah No, actually, this is within the state of California. So in california has so many levels California has a very high population. So they just have the most people on death row, 591.
01:35:32
Speaker
they don't really people. since 1976, also you know they don't really execute people so since nineteen seventy six there were a total of 13 executions. Oh, that's what I'm... Okay. 76... was technically correct. 20, 24, That's 20, 25. kind of correct. While some states like Virginia are like kind of cleaning out their death rows and while Texas is, to be clear...
01:35:55
Speaker
very, very active. um They've carried out 591 executions since 1976, Texas. there's they're They're barely letting their death row fill up.
01:36:08
Speaker
on This was another trick question. You guys are California just has been to have the most people on death row, but then also the governor was just like, hey, at also, where're I'm not executing anybody.
Death Penalty Abolishment: How Many States?
01:36:21
Speaker
ah So they still do technically have the death penalty, but but Newsom has made it very clear that he is not executing nobody. And he's like, y'all need to figure this out. Moral of the story is if you're going to kidten if if you're going to commit like,
01:36:36
Speaker
triple homicide with intent like a like a death sentencing type of crime you should do it in california 100 because they're not gonna they're not gonna pull trig you'll be fine it just doesn't have the death penalty i guess yeah or see if it just doesn't have the death penalty yeah but california's got nice scenery that's true yeah um So I get their points, right? I get all other points. they should run Yeah, probably.
01:37:02
Speaker
That's great. the field yeah point yeah One point for getting it correct, which brings you to seven points. Sarah loses two points. are we being wrong And that brings her down to seven. And Adam came into the question with seven.
01:37:15
Speaker
And so it's seven to seven to seven going into the bonus question, which is for all of you.
Conclusion of Trivia Game and Reflections
01:37:25
Speaker
Good. and she So ah a lot of strategy going into what you answer on this one, because if one of you answers alone, you're either going to win or guaranteed to lose. I can't get stupid.
01:37:38
Speaker
All right. All right. So the bonus question. How many states have abolished the death penalty? Is it A, 3? it B, 12? is it 23? Okay.
01:37:49
Speaker
twelve or is at sea twenty three
01:37:54
Speaker
All right, somebody answer first so I can bandwagon. Let's see.
01:38:01
Speaker
No, I'm sorry. It's... What's the strategy? Hold on. What's the strategy here? Because the way I see if I was a contestant, the way I would see it is if we all answer the same thing, we either all win...
01:38:14
Speaker
Or not. Wow. You put us in a classic prisoners dilemma for our last question. Surprise, surprise. You sick sons of bitches. have If you know two people guess one thing, then you have to, if the third person, you have to be like, well. How is a three-way tie all of us winning?
01:38:34
Speaker
You all come in first place. That's what's wrong with this country. Guys, we all may as well have zero points. all get a participation trophy. We all have zero points. We're all losers. Or we could just start making up questions for you. Secret ballot. Secret ballot.
01:38:49
Speaker
We're doing secret ballot. B. I'm going to go with C. You're wrong. I have nothing to lose. okay I know that I played my best possible game today.
01:39:04
Speaker
And I started, mind you, with negative points. So anything on the other side of zero is a win in my book. Yeah. I'm just glad we all had fun.
01:39:17
Speaker
um want to win. good
01:39:21
Speaker
Yeah. So you're going to choose you're going to go with Adam, or you going to go with me? When Nikki and I were planning this episode, thinking about who we wanted to invite, I was like, I think Sarah and Preston would be really competitive, and I think Adam would just lose his fucking mind, and I want to see that. Yeah. Everything came to I know that. predictable
01:39:48
Speaker
Adam, your mind was gone the second that he introduced you as a contestant, not an associate justice. I was insulted from the very first beat. You knew something was wrong. and I'm sorry, Preston, I interrupted you.
01:40:03
Speaker
I'm going to go with B. Of course. Welcome to the right side.
01:40:10
Speaker
like God forbid that I have faith that more of our fellow states have decided that putting people to death is not the vibe. Okay. You are extremely generous.
01:40:22
Speaker
And I wish I had that kind of optimism. this is This is fun because we now have from our justices a two to one decision in favor of B. And now Nikki gets to tell them what actually happened. yeah Listen, I just learned to California has death penalties and my whole worldview is rocked.
01:40:43
Speaker
I don't know what's true anymore. The answer is C. God damn it! No! No! Suck it! Okay?
01:40:54
Speaker
Oh, God. Your optimism somehow won the day. yeah Just ruined my wig. I hope it sings deep inside. you I keep the powdered wig.
01:41:08
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I am chief justice for a reason. Okay. Sarah gets crowned chief justice. You know what, Sarah, your supremacy is noted and, um, and respected and you keep the powder wig.
01:41:20
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And I, I live, I live in fear of your, of your horrible dominion.
01:41:28
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This means that 27 states have not abolished the death penalty, but just because a state has the death penalty on the books- negative when that. Doesn't mean that their governors are authorizing execution. So once again, California is one of the 27 states that haven't abolished the death penalty.
01:41:46
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But California is also one of the four states where the governors were like, no, fuck this, we're not doing it. This was like taking an SAT where literally every single question was a trick question.
01:42:00
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loved every second of me. It was, what can I say? It was entertaining. You you guys were freaking out. What do I win? So you what you win is you get to, you've maintained so ah your supremacy as chief justice. The entire hierarchy is actually being, you've all tested adequately for your stations.
01:42:23
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And we're going to this all the internet to humiliate you. It's fine. Yeah. We will send you a gavel ah to mark the occasion of your victory.
01:42:36
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You have entered the arena and said, no, no, no, no. I does i have always and continue to deserve to be the chief justice of Relitigated.
01:42:46
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What did i say? When in doubt, what do you do? You pick C. And has that led me astray? i think not. A couple times. ah Most of the time, yes. I won.
01:42:57
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So I'm not really sure who you guys are talking to right now.
01:43:03
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ah Sorry, I just, I know Preston's mad. Oh, I'm so mad.
01:43:11
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I'm already planning my revenge. Sarah lost five points in wagers over the the length of the game. Preston lost... ah One, two, three, four.
01:43:24
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Four points in wagers throughout the game. and And Adam lost one, two, three, four points in wagers throughout the game. So not only did Sarah get the most points, but Sarah also lost the most points. Oh, got it.
01:43:41
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Got it. Yes. Fortune favors the bold. The high risk, high reward. High risk, high reward. No other way, guys. When you're taking a competitive SAT focused on obscure Supreme Court ephemera.
01:43:54
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Fortune favors the bold. ah Well, ah this has been ah thoroughly entertaining and i on my part, at least, absolutely worth the amount of work it took to put this together.
01:44:06
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think I learned something. I'm not clear. Absolutely not. This was fun, though. Don't get me wrong. Very fun. Yeah. Everybody loves a good trivia game. I, you know what? In the end, between your knowledge and your, your strategy, every one of you had an opportunity in the last question to walk away with the win.
01:44:25
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Is that fancy talk for saying we're all winners? No, Sarah won. Oh, yeah. not Let's not like get confused. Let's not diminish the victory. I'm going to gavel.
01:44:36
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All hail Supreme Court Justice, Sarah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm sorry. yeah You have to earn it. like I'm sorry. I forgot my loyalty oath. Please come meet me. ah I can't thank you enough for coming and playing our absolutely absurd game. ah I thank you so much to Nikki for helping me craft this, even if most of the most devious questions were Nikki's, and I do not claim responsibility for them. I am an angel.
01:45:03
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She has done nothing wrong, and and she never will do anything wrong. Thank you, Sarah. You're welcome. Now, if I had just lost, I probably wouldn't have been saying that. Yeah, we did we should have recorded up front you saying like, no, she can't do anything wrong. And also like Nikki is responsible for all the terrible things in this world. And we could just use the one.
01:45:23
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Yeah, that was appropriate. But um this is great. So again, thank you so much. This was a fun experiment for us. ah It was a way for us to talk about the most recent Supreme Court decisions instead of, you know, being like, let's
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01:45:39
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just talk. Let's spend an entire episode talking about gossip.
01:45:42
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Because I'm pretty sure everybody would have wished for the death penalty. And then there's also, there's the other 60 cases. there was there were There was definitely one or two that I opened.
01:45:54
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And then I just saw a term. Oh, I saw one. It was about Erisa. And I just saw the acronym Erisa. And then I was like, nope, closed it. I can't. I can't tell. it I'm not doing this. um So your welcome, guys. think the ones where Clarence Thomas just shrieks for half hours. That's my favorite cases.
01:46:11
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i'm so I'm so pleased by the the question where everyone, where all of them, all of the answers were correct. I hope you all had a little bit of fun. um i hope you don't hate us too much for this absurd exercise.
01:46:26
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um But deeply, ah for the bottom of our hearts, thank you much for making this an enjoyable experience and all the laughs. Yes. And ah yeah, I guess so ah we'll we'll'll see you in the next one for back to business as usual.
01:46:41
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Bye. hope to never be in the room with you again. Yes. Thank you, losers. Oh, God, soul. All hail Supreme Court Justice Sarah.
01:46:55
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Well, guys, please, let's not be a little crazy now.
01:47:03
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Well, there you have it. With seven points, Adam and Preston tied for second, leaving Sarah with eight points as our winner. She maintains her status as Relitigated's Chief Justice and will receive a gavel to commemorate her victory.
01:47:17
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That's it for this episode, but before we go, thanks again to my co-hosts and to our mostly willing contestants. The music in this episode was written by Studio Columna and Toby Smith and provided by Pixabay.
01:47:28
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Research was done by Nikki and me. Audio mixing and producing was done by me. Thanks for listening. Please subscribe, rate, and comment so other people can find us.
01:47:39
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01:47:50
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Please help us spread the word. All right. Until next time, I'm Jarrett, and this has been Relitigated. Take care.