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Heptember 2024 - The Reel Big Skirm-ish Round 3 (w/ Bad Mary)
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The quest to determine the greatest Reel Big Fish cover song continues with first timers, Bad Mary! The CP/SC crew kicks off with a quick pick it up before chatting with Bad Mary on the formation of their band and their new EP Better(er) Days. Then, Rob, Celine, Joey, Amanda and Mike all dig in on the next 4 matchups of songs whittling down to the semifinals in preparation of next weeks finale.
Follow along with the Heptember Bracket all September long at www.challonge.com/heptember2024
Hosts: Celine, Joey and Rob
Engineer: Joey
Editor: Cutman
Skassociate Producer: Chris Reeves of Ska Punk International
Reel Big Skirm-ish Theme Song: Keelan
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Transcript
Introduction and Podcast Theme
00:00:00
Speaker
We're potting away. We have things we shouldn't say, but we'll say it anyway. Today is a good day to enrage you with our bracket. Oh, we don't need your love, okay? Vote with me, it'll be done in a week or two. It's heptember 2024, the real big skirmish.
00:00:51
Speaker
What up, Checkerheads? Welcome to Checkerpass, the SCODcast with Selin and Rob. The show where a trom fishbone and a Trumpets go toots and the Maytals explore the history and impact of a different band each episode, hope to bring in new fans along the way.
On-Air Personas and Musical Intro
00:01:04
Speaker
I'm Saxel Rob, and this is my sister and co-host, the Smokey Ass Bitch, Selin. You regret that? too No, i it's fun every time. Okay, good. It's better than being a lying ass bitch, yeah a Smokey Ass Bitch. That's true. you know yeah That's our first time listening to that intro, like live, because we've been poking it into stuff. Yeah, but I hear, so I guess, well, some insider knowledge. That was Keelan singing what we listened to, but are you doing it? And here is my co-host of The Most Toast, Little Joey Christmas. Most Toast, are you going to do the vocals? I did one, but Keelan just redid. So this is the one.
00:01:41
Speaker
Is this the one? This is the one. Okay. This is the one. This is the final mix. Q and seven. The final mix. It's got a break, a mid break mix. This is the final mix. I said I wanted to do the Salim cut where I do. Where you do it too. So we have like three vocals. How do you feel about his use of vibrato?
00:02:05
Speaker
Too much, I'd say. Whoa. Too much. To be Aaron Barrett. Whoa. I want to know vibrato. Keelan had to be worse. Keelan had the last vibrato. Well, that's.
00:02:21
Speaker
That's all she goes. Good job. I don't know if you had anything. I had nothing to do with Keeling. Keeling crushed it. Keeling, good job, as always.
Cover Art and Bounce Castle Adventure
00:02:28
Speaker
All Keeling. For anyone who's listening, if you want to know who does our covers for the Brackets, it's our friend Keeling. And he's got he's got music. Go check it out. Yep. Where can you find it? Bandcamp. Bandcamp. Does he just go by Keeling on Bandcamp? He's also a really good DM. Yeah, he's our DM. Everyone should know that. He's playing in a musical project that I'm playing in. He did. Are you playing tar?
00:02:50
Speaker
He did our Dungeons and Dragons episode, those three episodes we did. Go back and listen to him. yeah yeah they We're just plugging previous episodes. Should we pick it up where we left off? Yeah, let's do that.
00:03:07
Speaker
So Celine and I and my son went to the big bounce house, whatever it's called. The big bounce. Which is the world's biggest bouncy castle yesterday here in Edmonton. It was pretty sweet. I want to go back. It met expectations. I want to go back there. It was bananas. It was so fun. We only had a taste of the big bouncy castle.
00:03:30
Speaker
I will admit, it was overstimulating at first. like Will was not wrong. It was a little too much too soon to go right to the to the actual castle. We should have gone right after the lemonade. To explain the whole thing, there's this touring bounce castle that's enormous and it like travels around North America and it has multiple little like bounce castles with different themes. yeah There's like a sports one, there's like an alien one. There's a giant slide.
00:03:56
Speaker
Yeah, there's this huge slide. that's on The tentacle one's kind of ball pit focused. Yeah. And then there's a main attraction, which is this huge hugh castle that you have to have a timed entry because it's so popular. And we were going to go in, but we decided to check the other stuff first. And then by the time we got back to it, they closed us out. But like it was crazy. There was a lot of people and kids and it was really loud and it was a little too much. We had to kind of ease into the castle. There was an obstacle course that goes like forward, back, forward, back, forward and then back down a slide. That was awesome. Honestly, I like if I actually went for it, I would have beat everyone. at what and So you like just went half.
00:04:36
Speaker
half Yeah, I didn't want to show up those kids. It was hard. It was actually really hard. I wasn't necessarily better than the children. I'm just saying the four people I was with, I would have creamed them if I gave them my all. right Maybe Will. but maybe we I was so sweaty after though. It was hard. Everyone was sweaty. It was really difficult. And it was like hot. So sad because it was on a racetrack. It was very fun. But I'll say if you are in a neighborhood where the big bounce or whatever... It travels to the US and Canada. Well, I think it's from the US. Yeah. So Americans, you got it lucky. You got a big... And there's adult times. You don't have to. So we were like, there's different time slots for different ages, but... Yeah, there's an adults only one. Yeah, there's an adults only time slot. I was going to ask you that.
00:05:22
Speaker
oh sorry Sounds like our guest wants to know more about it. That's a good segue.
Meeting Amanda and Mike from Bad Mary
00:05:28
Speaker
that is That's enough of that. but's I'm excited to introduce our guests. They're in Paris. No, don't be. That's perfect. yeah It's actually perfect. Someone has to shut us up. and That's what we should do. We should just bait our guests with something they want to talk about until they break. so i could i can i like i could feel I could feel the the the like potential energy to my left just ready to explode. Throughout the whole bounce house conversation. I'm like she ain't gonna make it yeah
00:06:04
Speaker
They're the vocalist bassist songwriters for New York glam punk band, Bad Mary, whose new EP, Better Rur Days, is streaming everywhere right now. You also know them from their standout performance at SPI Fest 2, and on this very podcast, Amanda and Mike are back. Hello, friends. Hi, guys. I'm sorry I didn't contain myself. Hey, everyone. How are you doing? Nothing to apologize for. Amanda, talk to me about bad assholes. Yeah.
00:06:28
Speaker
Well, it's just I have such fond memories of them and like I haven't seen somewhere like that around here And I was like man that sounds like a lot of fun I don't know if if like I could go I was like I wonder if they have like either adult only thoughts or I'm like I have a niece I don't and then that happened and I was like, oh shoot we can get and like my whole brain just exploded at about right yeah There's quite a few options I wish like they're not necessarily like so what you need to do is when you get your timed entry you need to go right to the big bouncy castle castle yeah you gotta do it like first that's the one that's the one they're gonna close first so you gotta go big bounce castle like go there right away and then and then explore because you can definitely like linger yeah they'll let you like linger around honestly i thought there'd be like kids running around with like bloody noses and stuff but
00:07:12
Speaker
No injuries, I'm sure at some point. Just thousands upon thousands of wasps. Oh no. Just wasps everywhere. Yeah, there's a lot of wasps. When we went to- Brat summer ended and then wasp autumn started. I called it 100 Gex autumn the other day. Brat summer ended, I just thought that was funny. um there's a lemonade stand because there's you know when it's it's got like carnival food there and the lemonade stand has those like pumps that have like the the flavors in them you could just see this like yeah and it just had this like glob of wasps like five or six of them just in the little shoot there and my my son was like i'd like watermelon flavor my wife was like
00:07:52
Speaker
Oh and then you just see her like reach her hand out and just like i think it was hard because right before then another mother risked it all for a syrup for their kid yeah i think that was that was tough it was tough to see that before us and then not do it for her own child you know that's right but actually it was really funny cuz she was like.
00:08:11
Speaker
um He was deciding between like watermelon and another, and like watermelon was clearly the one with the least wasp. The Arianne was like, I think watermelon. I was like, definitely watermelon. Did anyone call it waspermelon? No. so yeah let's that's That's a blown opportunity. I'll tell you, it's a dangerous animal or insect to have around a bunch of bouncy castles. yeah right If you think all those wasps, you don't want to pop out of those things.
Bad Mary's Band Evolution
00:08:40
Speaker
So if ah if you haven't listened to the back alley interviews that we did at SPI Fest 2, I encourage all the listeners to go back and do that because Bad Mary was there and they were standouts. It was great. um My favorite part was I don't do paintball. Oh, you mean that pinball? That was great.
00:08:56
Speaker
yeah Um, wasn very funny but, uh, so we asked you your checkered past there, but what we want to know on this episode is let's talk about your band. Let's talk about bad Mary. So walk us through like, what was the, how did the band come about and what's your journey been?
00:09:10
Speaker
um Well, we we started originally as a cover band with a slightly different lineup. So that was the inception that later ended up becoming Bad Mary. um and We started at Hofstra University. That was kind of the pinpoint for for everybody. um And it was in another band called David and the Hendersons.
00:09:32
Speaker
which still exists today. Our guitarist is David Henderson. ah He plays guitar. He does all of our recording. We live stream out of the studio that that is in his house. um He designs like many, many hats within bad Mary, but is still a a professor at Hofstra. Still has this band, David and the Henderson's um that plays parties at the the drama department pretty much every year. I'm trying to give like a condensed version because it's a wild ride how we got to kind of like where we. Yeah.
00:10:01
Speaker
are needing to be condensed. Yes. All right. So I'll be done in November. um no um But basically, we started as an iteration of that that group. So we um played for like two, three semesters at Hofstra. So so um for those of you who who may who might not have ever heard of the school Hofstra University, it is a it is a university here on Long Island where we're from.
00:10:30
Speaker
And David's a professor there, as Amanda said. He's a professor of drama and dance. He was my professor there. Amanda's professor. And he's a production. He does theater production. So um that band started with me, Amanda, David, um another guitar player or another bass player at the time. I was playing like rhythm guitar at that time and a different drummer.
00:10:49
Speaker
ah probably in like 2010 and it was just doing covers for David and Henderson's we decided we we were all kind of local so we were like hey let's let's continue to do this outside of the school setting and we can go play gigs and stuff like that so we're doing covers we're in New York there's a lot of places like in the city or Long Island or wherever that's just like so yeah so we're really close to but discovery and um god um we would do covers from pretty much everywhere but all the covers we did were were very like Um, more leaning towards like the punkier side of the covers. But we, we, for like the parties, we did like love shack. We did like the 52s. We did, yeah yeah yeah we did blondie, more, yeah you know, stuff some stuff that we still kind of throw in now. yeah
00:11:29
Speaker
yeah a lot of the a lot of the a lot of the covers A lot of the covers we've put out are are are leftover cover or not leftovers are covers that we've kept around for all this time. so this this is we're talking This band first started as the cover band in 2010 and we came up with the name, we were called Madam X at that time. and Then there was we would do all these covers and they were we leaned towards like the punk doing them more of a punk rock fashion. I think i think also like that happened Like we would start, we would learn a song and we would have to fill a night. Cause it's like, yeah, it's a whole night. It's a party. So it would be like for, for hours. So we would kind of pick a bunch of songs that we liked, whether it was classics, stuff that was currently on. So I think it's like 20, 2009, 2010. There's a lot of Lady Gaga going on. So we like learned a lot of that stuff. Um, and then would throw in like, like classic rock songs to that. yeah yeah it So it was just kind of a mash of everything.
00:12:23
Speaker
And the more comfortable we got with it, we noticed, oh, we're playing them really fast. So like that's kind of what naturally happened with all that stuff. And after a couple of semesters of doing parties at the school, a lot of the groups, because it still exists, it's still a band that's on campus. And this is now like 15 years later, and it was before that, but it's whoever's on campus at that time that like happens to play that can do it. This group, we all happen to be staying on Long Island or in New York after graduation. So we were like, Oh, shoot, this is fun. Let's keep doing this. So that's when we started gigging and everything after the parties. And our we had a little bit of a lineup change because our bass player at the time started doing some tours and was living in Manhattan. So the commute to kind of practice and everything it wasn't wasn't working out there. So Mike hopped out on bass. Yeah, I played bass ah growing up um from probably about the age of like 11 or 12 onward. But
00:13:16
Speaker
I was in a band prior to what this was and kind of was like the last time I was had played bass for a bit. So I played rhythm guitar for this one, but I was a bass player anyway. So I hopped on bass and then we had a drummer. And yeah and we and David was on like lead guitar so he kind of just Melted whatever into into one and then our drummer who we're still super close with and she's mentioned in some of our songs and the lyrics and like ah Pops in our streams all the time um Rory Levin moved to Florida She got an internship opportunity and she's kind of been been down there ever since um but she's still very much like in our family still in our band chat, you know, so she's like so Yeah, so she helps us out when she's when she's around she might but run merch for us or or do some help with with some management and stuff. Yeah, she's great and So hi, Rory. Hey, Rory. Yeah. So we were looking for a drummer, and I was like, well, I know a guy. Let's see what he's doing. And my our drummer is our dad is my dad, um Bill Mack. I know a guy. I guy. I didn't know if he'd be into it. But when I was when i was younger, um when I was born, he was in a band. And I don't remember it, but I came home from the hospital in a onesie that they had made for me like of his band at the time.
00:14:26
Speaker
And it wasn't it wasn't like a punk rock band, but when he started playing with us, he was in a band before I was born that he was like, oh, this reminds me of that. And like, there was like a switch that like flipped and he was like, I'm all in. So like, that's how we formed. And then from that moment, David and Mike kind of started toying with originals and then that's where. yeah I had written a few songs ah that I had at the time. This is probably around, Jesus had to be maybe 2011.
00:14:57
Speaker
ah and or maybe 2012 at this point. I had written a few songs. I had written a few songs and I said to David, I went to him because I was working at Hofstra, the university at that time. I had graduated. I was in grad school.
00:15:09
Speaker
um My dad also had gone to Hofstra and was working there. so like Somehow we were all like, boom, Hofstra. Yeah, we were all around. And um so I had written some songs and I went to Dave and I'm like, hey, you know I think I kind of want to do original music. I'm getting a little you know tired of of the cover thing. And David at first was like, okay. I think he understood because I think he probably felt the same way. And he was in ah an original band in college and he was like, just letting you know once we start, you know I'm probably not going to be able to to stop this. you know We're going to open the door. It's not going to be able to close it. And I'm like, I'm cool with that. Let's let's do it. let's Let's make a push. Let's try something. So i we we had started working on original music at that point in time. And we changed the name over from Madam X to Bad Mary. It took a really long time for us to figure out where we were going to land with Bad Mary. ah we We were Madam X before. We really realized in a original setting, we couldn't carry that name over because there are
00:16:03
Speaker
a bunch of bands with that name. There's a movie, there's a bar, there's a picture, the painting, there's a whole bunch of stuff. So we live in an age where like your band name, you got to try to be easy to search out because there are so many things that are the same thing that it's like we googled Madam X and it's like, you can't find us at all. This isn't good. So that's gotta have that SEO. Oh yeah. it's really right so So after me three years ago about my SEO plan, and I'll tell you that I fucked up bad.
00:16:31
Speaker
I'm going to put Hans Gruber on the diehards here and just say praise to the algorithm. yeah like it' yeah It's wild what you have to kind of do now, but that was that was a part of it. It's crazy. so We we decided to took us a bit to figure out a name and then we came up with Bad Mary and then this was right around the only reason I remember this and the date is because it was right around Hurricane Sandy.
00:16:59
Speaker
hitting New York right around Amanda's birthday that year. And the reason why I remember that is that we had gone out to Amanda's birthday, like in the fall out of
Bad Mary's Albums and DIY Ethos
00:17:09
Speaker
all that. And all of our friends were like really gracious to like go out and not like, ah, I don't have to deal with the hurricane for like half a day. So we'd all gone out to dinner and David shows like the Chinese but yeah we went to it we went to a chinese buffet and David shows up in the first bad Mary t-shirt after we had agreed on like, this is the name. He came up with a logo. He made a t-shirt. He had a printed.
00:17:29
Speaker
And he wore it and everyone there was like, Oh, is that the thing? And we're like, yeah, that's the thing. And then we played our first show, our last show was Madam X at the beginning of 2013 and, um, fully changed over the name, uh, probably by like February, March of 2013. And we've been bad Mary for 11 years. Our first record, I, it came out 11 years ago.
00:17:52
Speaker
And, um, you know, we've been, we, we got a bunch, we have a lot of records. I think we've released a combination of nine EPs and, and, and full of length albums since then. Oh, classics volume six and seven, I think are actually six and seven. yeah they are And then there's.
00:18:09
Speaker
Trash and Glamour is eight. Trash and Glamour, The Very Bad Christmas, was that after that? We counted very, I think, oh yeah, I guess it's 10. I guess it's 10. I think it's 10 records. Oh wow, that's crazy. Most of the EPs, we have two full-length records and yeah, we just put out Better Days in July of 2024.
00:18:30
Speaker
That's that was something where we wanted to like go revisit our a bunch of songs off our first album, uh, which is called better days. And obviously, you know, we had to be tongue in cheek with the title. So that, that new EP sounds great. but Oh, thank you. Yeah. yeah It's like, uh, I always, I'm kind of hard on Ramones core as I call it sometimes, but good, good Ramon style punk is good. Ramon style punk is right like it's it's the kicks ass. and when And when it sounds really like the, the EPs just sounds really good. Like it, the y'all's recording. I think you're doing it DIY, but it sounds that's really, really good. So thank you. He's not here, but I will relay to David that that you said that, because that will mean a lot to him. And that's kind of part of why we wanted to do that, because the first Better Days was like our first shout out. And we did a DIY then also. And that was like, we're figuring it out. We're putting stuff out. We're figuring out our sound. And you go back to that album, and there's so many songs that like we still play. But we were figuring so much out that like after 10 years of playing those songs, we were like, OK, we want to give that group like
00:19:44
Speaker
the treatment that that we want them to have because it's it's a different ballgame now with how we kind of put stuff together. And David, thank you for saying that. He will appreciate it so much. Yeah. And you know, we had worked with studios, we had worked with producers before and they did great stuff and they're awesome and it's great. But we were writing so much music that we were never able to get it out ah quick enough just because of the, you know, kind of the economic kind of The economic yeah yeah economics of it all, you know, the the sheer cost of like going into a studio and recording an EP is going to cost us, you know, between seven and 10 grand. And it's like, I can't do that every year. if If you record, if you recorded for as long as you wanted to on something, you could be like you, you guys know, like it it could.
00:20:27
Speaker
The way I do too, like David, there are certain songs that I will do as many takes as David will let me do. yeah And I knew if I was in like a studio space, I would not have that um yeah right kind of freedom with stuff too. So it's it's choices with that. Yeah. So we we focused on doing everything as DIY as we can. Our videos are completely done DIY. Also, thank you, David. um And everything we do, you know, it's, it's, it's, you know, it's the family band, right? It's a family atmosphere. And it's kind of, it's really been for us, it's, it's made this all super possible. You know, everything we do is completely ourselves, whether it's booking tours or,
00:21:04
Speaker
or recording or things like that. We work with ah an amazing publicist to be 100% honest. She's amazing. Her name's Dana Gordon. She does incredible work. And we've been working with her for the last couple of years now. But outside of that, everything else is kind of us. yeah We got to a point where we were like, OK, we've done what we can in this arena. And like we and need someone that knows more. Because Instagram and all that will only go. Yeah. you know yeah and And it's been really great.
00:21:29
Speaker
and you know We've made so many friends along the way ah all these years, you know, whether it's bands that we're friends with or or you know ah being at SPI and things like that. Incredible. Me and you guys. like yeah That was amazing. I was so happy to get put on that when they reached out. and I was like, absolutely. Well, we can get to Connecticut real quick. and um things it was like it was like ah it was like it was It was a late add-on, but um I was so happy we did it because it was what an incredible community yeah of people. Hell yeah. Definitely. How much fun.
00:22:04
Speaker
Why we keep doing this? Yeah. Yeah. No, I totally get that. It's like we played it like three thirty on a Friday afternoon. And that place had like, you know, it had Saturday Night Energy at three thirty on a Friday. So I was like, it was so cool to be a part of that. And and then to hang the rest of the weekend. Yeah, just chill. Yeah. Yeah, we did. Yeah, we were there both nights, right? We were at one o'clock both days and then just hung out the rest of the time. Yeah. It was great. Yeah. Yeah. Amazing. I love that.
00:22:33
Speaker
easy to do. We just hop on stage and act like idiots for 30 minutes and then we're out. I mean, to be fair, we're doing the same thing. So we're hopping on stage and acting like idiots for 30 minutes. That's what life's about, man. That's what life's about. So for the uninitiated, how would you describe the band sound? What are your influences and kind of how does it come together?
00:22:58
Speaker
um Well, we're we're all from different like musical times, I want to say. um So like i I grew up in the house with my dad. So I grew up listening to a lot of the stuff that he just had on in the house. So um a lot of 1970s rock, a lot of like the Beatles, a lot of um like cream, the cars.
00:23:19
Speaker
Um, but also like my mom liked modern pop stuff. So there would be like, um, Whitney Houston at the time, it was the nineties or Celine Dion. And then I would listen to boy bands cause I got just a random Backstreet Boys CD emailed not emailed mailed to me. Cause then that's what everybody did. Um, but I was also put in a theater program after school. So I did like a lot of musical theater that had full orchestrations. So growing up, I had all these, and I lived in the house with my grandmother as well. So there would be randomly like Frank Sinatra,
00:23:46
Speaker
or Tony Bennett or something thrown into that mix with like big band music. So there was just everything and it really like made me ah just appreciate music, which is why I love hearing all different genres. um But with with Bad Mary,
00:24:02
Speaker
um It's hard because like where we get put under punk and like you guys know too, like punk can be so many things. It could be glam punk or pop punk or melodic punk or there's so many quantifiers to what that can be. um But I think it's it's about like the emotion of stuff and for me, no matter what genre I was listening to, if I could hear what the, what the music was feeling. That's what meant the most to me. So that's like, I think what I try to take and put into bad Mary, um, the loud and the fast is just, my mind is constantly racing. So I don't think I'm capable of doing anything at a slow speed.
00:24:38
Speaker
kind Like when when we get into music. um Yeah. But the I grew up as a theater kid. I grew up, you know, my dad would be in the pit playing drums while I was on stage doing whatever it was. So we would always work together on stuff. And I think when we play on stage together, we're always kind of making eye contact and doing, even if we're not thinking about it, like that theatrics comes through, like I cannot stand still.
00:25:05
Speaker
So if you give me a big stage, I'm going to be running all over it. And if you give Michael wireless in a big stage, he's going to be running all over it. um You have very big stage presence for sure. It's yeah your stage moves. I was I was laughing because I play in a cover band with ah a lady singer who has a bunch of stage moves as well. And I was like, God, I got to tell Naz about that one. That's a good stage move.
00:25:31
Speaker
You just got to not punch yourself in the teeth with the microphone, which I totally do. And I definitely did the other night when we were playing with Omega and Joker's Republic. And then I did something and I just knocked myself in the teeth. So that will happen. We just got to keep going. ah yeah It was funny, like in between sets, ah in between songs, Amanda turns to me and she's like, is my whole mouth bleeding? I'm like, no. OK. No, we're good. But yeah, no, as as the band, too, you know, our our influences, Amanda said, you know, we're multigenerational. So they're all all over the place. So Amanda and I ah yeah We grew up obviously at the same time, but but like david David grew up in in England in the 1970s, so he actually, 70s and 80s, so David kind of got like, he got really exposed to like English punk rock of the late 70s and early 80s, and I think he was you know in college and the in the 90s.
00:26:20
Speaker
And so, you know, Sex Pistols and and you know ah bands like ah blondie The Clash. 77 Punk era. Yeah. yeah And um i'm trying to I'm trying to piece them all together, like The Jam and and other bands like that. but But David's favorite band is Queen. So um he loves Queen and ACDC. So there's a lot of that in Wham! There's a lot of that in our music.
Influence of Video Game Music on Bad Mary
00:26:45
Speaker
I'm a 90s punk kid, so you know I was but eight in 1994, so Dookie had come out and kind of was like, oh, what is this? And then that opens up like ah that opens up a total just a total like rabbit hole into whatever that is. And what I would typically do is go listen to the music that they were talking about, that they grew up listening to. So that's how I found a lot of 70s stuff.
00:27:06
Speaker
And, you know, when Bad Mary formed, you know, we were, there's all those little bits and pieces in there, but like bands like Blondie and the Ramones were obviously huge influences for us as New York band, as a New York band. too well I listened to a lot more Blondie than I think you did, but like even just there, like for me, um, so you know, we fit a lot of words into like not a lot of space. Mike writes a lot of words into into not a lot of space. And I think for me, like I was, when I, when the party song existed and everyone had to learn like that was something I had to read very quick.
00:27:35
Speaker
And i I think that that help like was a thing that helped me realize, like okay, you can fit a lot into a short amount of time. so like But even their stage banter, like yeah I don't know. Yeah, and that's a big thing we do, too, is we we have that kind of back and forth on stage we together. We just never stop talking to each other, and then we'll just walk on stage, and it keeps going. So that's not... Yeah.
00:27:52
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as part of the show folks, but so for me too, it's like I grew up playing a lot of video games, so I also ah will credit them as being influential from a music side of things. I think it's, you know, I play, you know, whether it's, you know, obviously like the Koji Kondo stuff from Nintendo with Dezelda and the Ntsumaru Brothers and and things like that, but like also like I played a lot of Final Fantasy, so Nobu Yumatsu's music's really influential on me.
00:28:18
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Yoko Shimomura's music from Brother Bay Street Fighter 2 or stuff later on is is also really, it's in the soup there, right? It's all in the mix. So I think that kind of also translates to our energy, like where we're coming from, Amanda with the theater and me with like the nerd kind of core thing going on and and all that stuff and and you know Bill with his kind of like classic you know rock and roll kind of old school rock thing and David with his like English ah kind of England and and all that stuff.
Exploring Real Big Fish's Impact on Ska
00:28:46
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So it all comes together in this very strange mixture of nonsense, which I think works for us. I'm an English guy. I'm from England. Well, pivot over to the band we're going to be talking about today. So real big fish. What is your ah thoughts, feelings, history with the band that is ah for this episode?
00:29:05
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real big fish. um I feel like real big fish and I was talking to i was talking to ah Mike Diglow very recently about real big fish from Mega Infinity and how that like I feel like that is a ah a good gateway band for a lot of people and definitely us when we were younger and listening to Scott. and like there um I know we're talking about about covers, um and this and there's a take on me when I was younger. I feel like a lot of people i got to the point where like they think that that's the original, and there's something to be said about that. That was like my first, like oh, what is this and that? like When the age of limewire and everything, like you
00:29:43
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downloaded that and hoped you got the right artist name attached to it and it was real big fish. And that was my intro to them, was finding it by accident. I'm like, LimeWire. To see the problem was is that at that period, at that whole like, well, it's not, it's not legally okay to download. No, I know. But when you're 12 and you're like, I want to know what music is out there and you don't quite understand it yet. That's, that's, I have to honestly say that's how I found it. Now I don't condone it. My 12 year old self when it was like,
00:30:09
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What's internet? Every every ska cover in those days was attributed to real big fish. And I remember even being like 13 or 14 years old and going like, that's not the same singer. This is not real big fish. That is not a whole. I mean, we were on it, but Rob did an episode about like all of the misconstrued, like what song to what? Yeah. What did you what did you call it? Miska-tributed. Miska-tributed. Oh, that's so good. That's good. The Ghostbusters theme was Miska-tributed. What was the other one that was always floating around? Gin and Juice, that one. Brown Eyed Girl. Brown Eyed Girl. Brown Eyed Girl. Who did Fraggle Rock? What? Who did Fraggle Rock? Fraggle Rock was Alistair. Alistair did Fraggle Rock. OK, because that one was definitely Miska-tributed. Oh, yeah. I forgot about that. I didn't know it was a Fraggle Rock cover. Oh, yeah. I think it's a good time to take a break. Yeah, it's a break. Yeah, I think so. Yeah, it's already 42 minutes in. I feel like he was going to say something. Oh, I don't know. I like real big fish. I like real big fish. Good. Okay. And when we get back, we got Bracket.
00:31:26
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Welcome back to Checkered Pass. We're here with Bad Mary and we're getting into round three of the Real Big Skirmish. So this is HEPTEMBER. All month long, we're doing a March Madness style bracket to pit 32 cover songs performed by Real Big Fish in head to head battle to determine once and for all the greatest RBF cover song of all time. Thanks for everyone who voted in their predictions. If you want to follow along, the bracket is at shalonesh.com chalo change slash HEPTEMBER2024.
00:31:54
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The matchups are seeded based on chronological order, so the earlier songs have a more favorable placement than newer songs for no other reason than that was the easiest way to do it. Here's how it's gonna work. The pre-show was all about Real Big Fish's side projects, other bands, and songs cut from the bracket. Round 1 kicked off with the CPSC crew going through the first set of matchups across two parts. The chaotic Round 2 had the equally chaotic Devon Kay in today's quarterfinals are with Bad Mary.
00:32:21
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And then the finals will be determined next week the songs play today are the middle section And then since we have an odd number of people there'll be no tiebreakers So if you listen to any of our other madness marches or heptembers, then you get it But who is real big fish you may ask? I mean come on. We did three parts on the band already So what are you waiting for go back and listen with our guests the third rate's Devin King Gary Mastriano and But if you want a quick recap, here you go. They are THE monastic meme formed in California in 1991 as a hair metal cover band, before adding a horn section and switching to full-blown ska punk. After their debut indie album Everything Sucks gained underground traction, they were signed a major label jive for the blockbuster Turn the Radio Off and its ever-present single, Sellout, launching the band into the mainstream.
00:33:05
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After four years of headlining fame, they released the power-pop influence Cheer Up, with lead singer Aaron Barrett forming the forces of evil, thinking his band was about to fold. After being convinced to return, he penned the angry We're Not Happy Till You're Not Happy album as an anti-music industry concept record before being dropped to go indie again, reigniting their career as Dark Ages darlings, keeping the scoff-leg alive.
00:33:27
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They had many lineup changes but released a consistent batch of albums including the cult classic Candy Coded Fury and the divisive cover album Fame, Fortune, and Fornication. Known for their vibrant live-act cheeky lyrics and horn-based third-wave Ska sound, they are still semi-active today, having gone gold, releasing nine albums, multiple best-ofs, an amazing live album, and something like 46 covers that we will talk about all month long. It's real big skirmish, Joey.
00:33:52
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What are the three things that you are looking for in a real big fish cover? Uh, genre mashy. Yes. Thing. We've been saying it every episode. I know. But it's been like two weeks. But it's been like two weeks and now I'm having trouble remembering what the other two are. Oh, I don't remember mine yet. Uh, buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh. I don't remember the other two.
00:34:14
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Well produced. Oh, yeah. I wanted to be well produced because the the big production not annoying. Not annoying was the other one. Sweet. Yep. That sounds like something I would say. Celine. What I look for in a real big fish cover song. Yes. Earworm not tapeworm. That's right. yeah ye Yep. Yep. Not too summery. Not too summery. Yeah.
00:34:35
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ah horrible Oh, I have to not hate the original song. Yes. Not like it. Not like it. That's important. Yeah. Not hate it. Yeah. Not hate the original song.
00:34:48
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And I like clean fingernails. So I like the big production. I like it when it sounds like I like it when it sounds like they're having a lot of fun in the studio and kind of going crazy fun in the stew. And I kind of prefer it when it's like an 80s cover. I like those songs a little bit more. 80Z, I guess is the best way to put it. Yeah. So that's kind of what we're looking for. So Bad Mary, I'll start with Amanda. When you think about a cover song by Real Big Fish, what would be the standouts? What would be the elements of a standout song?
00:35:19
Speaker
I like how you phrased it, earworm, not tapeworm. That's like a really good way to put it. um but so i you know Before I um i really like honed in on the brackets, I was just kind of like generally listening through like all of them to kind of like give myself a little bit of a real big fish. like um I don't know, just to get into that energy and that headspace before doing this. And I noticed the ones in general that I liked more were the ones I found myself absentmindedly singing along to. So it's like if I catch myself singing along, that instantly like i marked it down like, yes, that's one I'm going to come back to. I might put on repeat because I had a lot of fun with that. So am I singing along? Yeah. And there's a lot that kind of lend themselves to that because they have the the group vocals. um So it's like, yeah, did you get me to sing along and I wasn't even thinking about it? You're on the list.
00:36:08
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Um, there are some and I tried not to like play favorite to this, but some that are just my favorite songs that I am inherently going to like a little bit more because they took a song I love and then made it a different, maybe not a better, sometimes a better, but like just a different version that I'm like, Oh, I get to love it twice. This is so sick. You know,
00:36:30
Speaker
um So for me, if they could make one of my favorite songs into a something else that like I could also hold on to, that got so many points. um And the fun. like If they're having fun, I'm having fun. um But i don't I don't know that we have any in here, um but sometimes they get super loungey and cheesy with it. And I also love that. So they're not afraid to lean into different parts of themselves. So if they're like stretching it a little, that gets points with me.
00:36:57
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Yeah, I love it. um Something that we discussed before just quickly before we get into more of that, but um is oh, my God, I forgot what I was going to say because I went on for too long and then I started looking at you. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, when they're in on the joke.
00:37:13
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when they're in on the joke. Sometimes they're not in on the joke. Sometimes they're not laughing at themselves. And I like when they're ready to laugh at themselves. That's a good one. Because they're not always in on the joke. Anyways, Mike, I like that. I like when they're good.
00:37:32
Speaker
how I'm kidding, I'm kidding. i'm got i can believe i now no ah All joking aside, you know mean amanda i me and Amanda sometimes, you know when i think it's i think it's the I think it's the married thing, we kind of share a brain a lot. um It's, you know, it's the, I do like when, if it's a song I really like, it's, it's, you know, I'm biased, right? So I'm going to lean towards that obviously always. And I like when they, I like when a cover does something that it's weird because like, I like when a cover changes a song.
What Makes a Good Cover Song?
00:38:10
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But I don't like when it changes the song too much to where it doesn't feel like the song anymore. Unrecognizable. Yeah, yeah. And that sometimes bothers me about a cover tune. Because I was like, then why did you cover the song? That Tori Amos Nirvana song. I'm like, I respect that she covered a Nirvana song, but she took it in such a different direction that I can't get into it. Yeah. Exactly. And it's like, why would you cover it then if you're going to? Like, obviously, when you cover a tune. I agree with that. Yeah.
00:38:37
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When you cover a tune, you know, you're looking to at least, in my opinion, I mean, we've done a lot of cover stuff. So and when I'm looking at covering a tune, I want to try to encapsulate like what the song was to a degree and like, give it our stamp on it, right? Make it sound like what we're doing or make it sound like us to a degree in a way. But at the same time, I want it to be recognizable. And I want people, people to to to know and remember it.
00:39:01
Speaker
So there's part of that too. like like Some of my favorite cover tunes, like I remember like you know when like Metallica's Garage Inc. came out and there's some on there that I'm like, oh, this is really cool. I like what they did with it. And obviously, Scott covers were always a thing. Punk covers were always a thing. But there are always more that like I pull from and I'm like, oh, okay, I enjoy these a lot more than than some others. um like ah Another cover that I really love is, ah it's not real big fish, but Alkaline Trio's cover of The Metro,
00:39:28
Speaker
I think is fantastic. yeah that's and that's and owner cover hell yeah because Because it sounds like Alkaline Trio, it sounds like the original song. But at the same time, it's like, oh, this is like a perfect blend of what both of you were trying to do. And it fits your style so well. So yeah with real big fish, it's like, you know, 80s covers for some reason, new wave stuff always translates. It has always kind of translated well to ska music because a lot of times they'll take the synth parts and they'll make them horn parts. And it kind of sounds kind of cool.
00:39:57
Speaker
and i like that so there's some some some that are better than others obviously if i if i'm more familiar with the song i like the song but the ultimate test for me with any music and pretty much any cover is like you know if i roll the roll the windows down if i if i put the window roll the windows down on my car and drive fast am i going it like if it wants wants to make me do that that's always something that's like all right cool I have a question for you then cause it's not in the brackets, but the hungry life, the wolf, I love that. And that kind of is taking it and turning into like a lounge singer version, which is like the opposite of. That was going to be my next question. Have you gone through the bracket and was there any surprises or upsets? Um, because there a hungry, like the wolf is my favorite real big fish color and it got eliminated last time.
00:40:42
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Yeah, I love hungry like the wolf. I really do love hungry like the wolf. And that's why it got eliminated by it. What did it get eliminated by Boy So Fire? Oh, that's a good couple, too. The Phil Collins one. It was the Phil Collins one. Oh, I'm sorry. I have the bracket. I have the bracket in front of me. We'll chat. We'll chat in a bit. I feel like I don't want to go. I don't want to go jumping or anything. But so I'll put a pin in that for a bit from now.
00:41:12
Speaker
Cause when we get to it, yeah yeah up yeah. But hungry, like the wolf. Yeah. Cause that was one that I did not find in my like 12 year old lime wire days. So when I was doing the, like, Oh, let me listen to all these that popped in, I was like, what is this one? And I put that on loop and I loved it, but that is like, that is different. That doesn't kind of push the energy so much that it takes it and kind of spins it a little into kind of like that. I keep going back to like Richard cheese. It has that little all like lounge, the lounge singer. What you're hearing is his rockabilly energy. But I like it. I am and i as ah as an ex-rockabilly, psycho-billy woman. No, I love it. i think he I think he was like a hard rock. He's got real rockabilly energy. The other song that was eliminated that I feel like we're going to hear about is that Take On Me got knocked out. Yes. So how how do you feel about that? Take On Me.
00:42:08
Speaker
I don't know if it is in my top like favorite real big fish personally, but but I respect it like heavily because when I was younger and even recently like we were judges on a um like a battle of the bands and for like a high school a high school age group and they played take on me, but they were like, buy real big fish. And it's is's not originally by them, but I think their cover of it, if you're not like if you're not um deep into who wrote the original of everything and like you're just like, oh yeah, I like it. It's fun.
00:42:42
Speaker
that is a cover that they've taken and like people think that that's there so no shade to yeah the og cuz it's brilliant but like it to do that and take it and make your cover stand out so much like i have to respect that that if it wasn't original that would be really impressive Yeah, yeah it's kind of like it's kind of like Goldfinger's 99 Red Balloons, right? It's like that's kind of yeah our generation's like version of that song. It's just, ah you know, when you look at it's sell, I'm not sell out jeez. It's take on me got beat by we hate it when our friends become successful. So it's like, oh, ah a little Morrissey, huh? Yeah.
00:43:19
Speaker
You know? little Little old-school emo, huh? Yeah, yeah, that's what we're going with. We like to turn on our primes, we come successful. You know, it's like, all right. I like him as a songwriter. I don't like him as a person. Well, I mean, what are you going to do? I like the Smiths too. I like the Smiths too. With a haircut like that and you're shitting on Morrissey.
00:43:47
Speaker
Excuse me, ah haircut? That doesn't happen frequently. Sorry. That was good, that was good. I don't know why you're bringing out the sister in me. No, I like the Smiths a lot. um A lot. And it's just a shame that Morrissey is who he is. What were we talking about? We got a bracket to do. A bracket. Let's get real big with these fish.
00:44:18
Speaker
Yeah, here we go. With the skirmish. The first one, first matchup to cover of the Fishbone song released in 2007 on the EP, Duet All Night Long featuring guest vocals by Zoloft, the Rock and Roll Destroyer. This is Lion Ass Bitch.
00:44:39
Speaker
I'm excited for this matchup. I'm excited for you for this matchup,
Real Big Fish Cover Bracket
00:44:43
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Joey. For me? Yeah. Yeah, this is a tough fly matchup for sure.
00:44:52
Speaker
The worst thing that can come from this bracket is that we get to talk about Zoloft the Rock and Roll Destroyer like every week. Yeah. So good. Yeah, she's so good.
00:45:06
Speaker
Also, that's SEO. That's knowing your SEO. that's ah That's prime SEO. Hell yeah. Zoloft the Rock and Roll Destroyer. yeah Fucking one Google search. it found ah At worst, you miss spell Zoloft. And you get an an SSRI, but that's okay. Yes, Zoloft. I get Zoloft.
00:45:30
Speaker
Her vocals really bring that like old school like two Tony vocals. Yeah. Yeah. That early like punk rock. Pauling black. Yeah, totally. in Yeah. What's that? What's that quality to that? What what what is that quality called on the voice? I mean, like her quality in the voice. Yeah, I was like that kind of Like that, like, you know, like ah sky it's I would, I would call it like the tone is like brassy, but I don't know, like placement wise, it's a mix because you're not like a white, like belting, like full out, but it's got kind of in your half head voice, but it's weird. Yeah. live You have to feel the vibrations like behind your nose is where it is like, like to if I were to make it, it would sound very odd right now. I had we, I had vocal coaches in, um, in high school that like,
00:46:20
Speaker
to get there, the exercise where you have to be like, and like it sounds really weird there, but like to get into that placement, you kind of have to live and think, nah. Is the siren close? I think I heard a siren song. or or yeah Or maybe a cartoon villain just like yeah did something they enjoyed.
00:46:39
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guys you know
00:46:44
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I'll get you, He-Man. Yeah, the actual the actual like terms escaping me when I'm getting that spell a tour. Yeah. Yeah. But is that what his voice is? Is it that? good Yeah. Yes. yes Yeah. Yeah. He looks so badass. to be that Very good. and impression Yeah.
00:47:02
Speaker
thats I do voices. They pop up. They voices pop up here we hear and here and then. Especially in your sleep. It's really weird in the middle of the night when I'm not expecting it. Are you saying, yeah, He-Man in your sleep? like Yeah, He-Man. You don't know what's going on in there. sat How do we feel about that cover? I like it.
00:47:22
Speaker
That cover is really fun. Yeah, it's a really fun cover. I mean the ah i like Fishbone a lot. It has a lot of character. like That's a cover, that's a song that has character, if that makes sense. So hammy, hamming it up. Yeah, it's definitely hammy, but you want to hammy it up, right? Yeah, totally. That's kind of what you want out of this and of this tune. Yeah.
00:47:44
Speaker
You know, that's how I feel about it. It's all camp. you Yeah. You want to get with the happiness. Just bonking us with ham. And it is going up against a cover of the Sublime song released in 2002 on the album Cheer Up. This is Boss DJ. Tuffy.
00:48:06
Speaker
This is also fitting a bunch of words. Yeah, fast lots of words. Yeah. I do like that. that's I like a lot of words. Me too. I do too. yeah yeah yeah When you sing along, you're like, yeah, I got it. Also, if you cram enough words in there, sometimes you don't even need to rhyme. It doesn't even matter. These are enough words. This is true. I like this a lot. This part of the song is really cool.
00:48:45
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to page Okay, I don't like his voice when he does laugh.
00:48:56
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you' feeling the same way too I can't like not dance to this. yeah no good It's got a good bop groove to it. They wrote a good song. Not Real Big Fish. The Sublime song is acoustic. My history is i don't I struggle with Real Big Fish. But I knew this bracket was gonna like, I've been broken down quite a bit at this point. I like every bracket. Every bracket. Either are you start high and end low or you start low and end high. Those are the only two options. yeah But I do like, I do like Boss DJ. I know how I'm voting. How do you, how do you both feel about the Boss DJ cover?
00:49:43
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i I like this cover. I like this cover a lot because this was one for me that like I do find myself like not actively thinking about it. and Then 10 seconds later, like i'm I'm sitting here grooving to myself. like I'm swaying back and forth. and like i didn't kind like I didn't notice it until after I was already in motion.
00:50:00
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um But for me, I think this cover too reminds me of how much I like Sublime. When we were talking and listening through covers too, I was like, I always forget. There's a handful of bands that I don't actively list as like, oh, I listen to these a lot. And I feel like Sublime falls in there. And the cover reminds me how much I like the original, but not so much where I'm like, oh, that's so much better. I would rather be listening to that right in this moment. No, I'm going to finish and play in this one. So like that like itch for the song while listening to this song. Yeah. It's hard because I feel like the boss DJ cover is pretty good. I think my issue with it is that.
00:50:48
Speaker
Sublime has this vibe when you listen to it Bradley's voice. Yes, absolutely ah You know, I've known to play I've been known to play a little hacky sack so i answer or twice It's got yeah, we used to play this game called hacky sack combat you kick it three times and you take someone with it i go and You throw it at them. i't I don't want my words crossed around here. yeah ah yeah you would My brain was really trying to find a joke there. yeah i know i know i know As the word was coming out of my mouth, I'm like, oh wait, that means something totally different in this in a different day and age. So you just throw it at them and then you're out. So anyway, um you know it's it's it's hard because I like real big fish, but like
00:51:36
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the vocal quality doesn't necessarily match in terms of like the sublime vocal quality. Like Bradley had this kind of raw, rawness to his voice, this like rawness and and this, but it it worked well with like exactly the songs he was trying to sing. So when you get the vocals on Boss DJ, it's like, yeah obviously you're doing the, the you know, the whoa, real big fish kind of thing.
00:52:01
Speaker
But at the same time, it's kind of like, it's kind of like, you know, you know, it does like that kind of lounging thing. well thank you well um um you know But doing like this kind of lounging thing. You're doing this lounging thing. Like you can hear, you can hear the pompadour and it's like, it's like you can. I'm fucking clear, Aaron. Yes. it's It's very clear and his voice is very clear, but like there's it's kind of missing that rawness. yeah I feel like you hear Bradley s singing it and you're like, like when you when you like and and maybe not on Boss EJ, but if um'm you know if you if you go to like if you go to like a sublime song and you you kind of get like his kind of his rawness to it, he kind of has to like
00:52:45
Speaker
push and stretch his voice a little bit to hit some of those higher notes. But that's like part of it. Yeah. You know, I feel like ah Brad Brad makes boss DJ kind of sexy. yeah And Aaron Barrett does not make it kind of sexy. He makes a song about a DJ.
00:53:02
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it's almost it's yeah It's almost hokey. yeah um and you know um i and i think that probably Hearing here were them back to back now, I think I i have a much easier pick for myself.
00:53:15
Speaker
but who know So maybe we should do it. I'm ready. Did we describe what we're doing? We all just yell the name at the countdown. time yeah We do a countdown. Yes. and you don't have to And you don't have to vote together, just to be clear. you vote also Oh, no, no. ah Listen, we're just causing ourselves an argument later in the day. It's fine. I i already know there's a couple or not. Maybe all of them are not going to agree. I don't know. I don't know, man. We'll see. I don't know. We'll see. All right, here we go. Three, two, one. Boss DJ. Oh, say look. I think I'm the odd man out. yeah Odd personnel. You got four on one. not half four yeah one i I said on the lot ah previous episode, the reason why I like the Boss DJ cover more is because he took an ah ah an acoustic song and sort of put it through a sublime like cover band to make it sound like a sublime song being sung by real big fish. yeah like it sounds like um like of what i got or whatever like he made it sound like a more popular sublime song and i kind of like that it's also like the lyrics in that song like sound like it should have existed for like 30 years earlier than it did yeah you know what yeah that sounds that song sounds like it was written and you're like parents have listened to it for like 20 years prior it's crazy time it's so nice whereas lion as bit one of my favorite fishbone songs for sure and they do a very like one-to-one cover of it um which but it's pretty definitively like 80s in its nature yeah it sounds like fishbone which sounds very
00:54:52
Speaker
specific in its time. Yeah. but Yeah. Yeah. And I would almost sooner. I like that cover. I'd sooner listen to the original two though. So yeah. Whereas I don't actually like the original boss DJ by sublime because there's no band. It's just your ad. All right. So next match up.
00:55:09
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This is the one that we're talking about, the Morrissey cover. This time is solo. It appears on 2005's We're Not Happy Till You're Not Happy. We hate it when our friends become successful. That's what his hair was talking about. but
00:55:29
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It's really, sos really catchy.
00:55:33
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I like Aaron's Morrissey voice. I like Aaron's take on a Morrissey voice. I do.
00:55:44
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I like it better than his regular singing voice.
00:55:49
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Also, Selene loves a laugh. love a laugh. I am also a big fan of laughs and songs. but Yeah, you have a couple of songs that you laugh in. I have like two laughs in songs I've recorded on, at least two.
00:56:05
Speaker
if it If it can be inserted and it makes sense it goes in yeah, there's lyrics because we me and my friend in our band we have a song just about our we have several songs about our friendship but ones that we laugh in the same witchy way and then it's just background like catholic yeah yeah How do you feel about that cover I think it's very good. I think it's a good cover of a of a Morrissey song. you know I think it's it's there's something with it that yeah it's cool that they that they kind of um accelerate the mood
00:56:42
Speaker
of that music. Because, you know, Mercy and the Smiths is very sleepy, right? It's kind of like this, it's like, it's got this like ethereal kind of thing to it. I like that about the Smiths. Like, you know, if I put on like, you know, like Big Mouth Strikes Again, or, you know, songs like that, it's like, yeah, like, that's like, it feels like autumn. To me, it feels like this kind of like cinematic. Yeah. Yeah. Like, I feel like yeah I had around things the wrong way. Yeah, exactly. yeah exactly yeah um but But with this, it's like, yeah, you're you're you're you're you're pushing it up a little bit energetically wise. And that's cool. And I like it. um Sometimes I miss the kind of laid back aspect, though, of it, too. So if you're saying that the Marcy version kind of puts you in like an autumnal feel,
00:57:31
Speaker
I get that. I get that. So I'm feeling like, okay, I'm outside. It's dusk. It's kind of brisk. The real big fish version would be the Halloween edition of that. So I can see like it's still, yeah, like it still has that kind of feel to it, but they've turned it upside down a bit and they're dressed as like, bingo, bingo, playing it kind of thing. So instead of, instead of it being Morrissey, it's like, Oh, Jack the pumpkin King is now singing. Ha ha. and like so and any level of spooky i like it
00:58:02
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it it's still all blame everyone it still fall but now everyone's doing yarommee to shooters It's going up against the cover of the Maytals classic, the song that appeared in the Wild Thornberrys movie soundtrack, but this is the version from the 2009 cover album. This is Monkey Man, man Joey's favorite song. love the
00:58:46
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I also like the specials version.
00:58:54
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I got introduced to the... Every single version. I don't think there's a version of this song where I'm like, meh. I got introduced to the specials through Shaun of the Dead. Yeah. That's sweet. Mine was a Dance Dance Revolution. Oh, well, there you go. Little Bitch was on DDR. Did I ever tell you that Arcadium, the retro arcade here, the DDR machine that they have there, has Little Bitch on it. I could i should go yeah bust out some moves. I love DDR.
00:59:23
Speaker
I love DDR. Except when you go and see some kid fucking own you. I am not good. I enjoy it. I am not good. I think we have DDR machines at the Expo. You do. I think we do. I don't go to that section. There's a lot of K-pop ones now that are similar but different.
00:59:47
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Hey, how do we how we feel about so this particular cover? I think it's I feel like now I'm like, oh, I feel like one is so much better.
00:59:58
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The Toots one is also much better. It sounds good. And it's just like everybody's doing it. I guess maybe that's part of it. It is a standard, I would say, at this point. It was a Ska stand. Yes. Yes. Yeah, they did. I heard no doubt Monkey Man. Pretty sure they did that on Coachella. Yeah, that's why it's- They did One Step Beyond for sure. That's why it's in my head. Yes. That was sweet, actually. Bad Mary, how do you feel about the Monkey Man cover? I like Monkey Man.
01:00:26
Speaker
yeah yeah it's great I like monkey man. Put it on a shirt. It it also brings me back to that episode of Hey Arnold where there was monkey man. Hey Arnold. Yeah there was a superhero in their town called monkey man and he would go monkey man. In the 90s and monkeys hey. And yeah just animal people. Quailman and Johnny Bravo doing the monkey.
01:00:50
Speaker
Dancer's Lab or Dial M for Monkey? Dial M for Monkey? But then, yeah, there's a lot of- Oh, Joe! Oh, Joe! Oh, yeah. The Return of- He was a monkey, yeah. He was. And the Return of Donkey Kong was in the 90s. Yeah. Yeah. It was like Dunstan checks in, all those movies with the- That's N-Con. All right, let's vote. Yeah, yeah. I'm ready to vote. I'm ready. I feel like it's going to be a game time whatever comes out of my mouth. That's right. That's right. Always vote with your heart. Always vote with your heart. I know what I'm voting.
01:01:20
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Three, two, one. We hated it. We're friends become successful. Oh no. Three versus two. Three versus two. Morrisey, Morrisey continues. He continues to win. it' like In life and this bracket. Yep.
01:01:44
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The next match up ah we got we got two more matchups go here We go cover of the rockabilly classic by the stray cats appearing on the 2006 psychobilly tribute go cat go this is straight cat strut I just want to let everyone know that you have you have two two bad two songs from Long Island bands on here, so Well, yeah, I guess that makes sense. I didn't realize that, like Brian said, he was probably a Long Island guy. same tone So he's from the same town I grew up in. Oh, really? Yeah. yeah
01:02:20
Speaker
That's cool. Short King. Short King Brian Setzer. So, um, this song goes over so well at karaoke. If you fucking bust this out, everyone is into it. Especially if you get a little frazzly. Yeah, especially if you do a little cat stress. This is the best part. Shut up. Shut up right now.
01:02:49
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say I and I got cat style. Don't cross my path. I love that. So good. It is. How do you feel about that cover, Bad Mary? Straight Cat Strut.
01:03:06
Speaker
I think that cover is like super respectful of the original. you know like They took that and it's like, yes, you gave it the, you treated that song very, very well. I feel like they brought it from a Stray Cut song to a Brian Setzer Orchestra song. Oh, it's interesting. yeah Yeah. Yeah. But if you've if you've heard Brian Setzer orchestra do Stray Cat Strut, it really doesn't sound that different than that. because No, it doesn't. orchestra them No, the the the whole orchestra, they do it. And um it's weird. It's weird. weird he's from We're from the same place, essentially. And I've never seen in his holiday show, which I kind of want to do. Every year, and my aunt goes every single year, every year around the holidays, he comes and he plays a concert on Long Island, like same time every year. And it's all like the holiday music.
01:03:49
Speaker
yeah who's christmas His Christmas music is awesome. really His Christmas records are awesome. like brian seter or because i thought yeah really did music yeah yes His ah record that's all classical covers, the BSO all classical covers is incredible. His so guitar tone is so honed and specific and he uses like the specific tube amps. He like travels with his like repair tubes. It's the, what's the space echo he uses. He uses all of the extensive stuff. It's such a specific guitar sound. It's very cool.
01:04:27
Speaker
yeah Yeah, yeah, no, you're right. And it's, ah it's amazing. um I like this cover a lot. I feel like it's, like you said, it's not doing anything like super unique. It's really sounding like just a bigger, it's, yeah, that's the really, that's the right way to put it. It's like the Brian Setzer Orchestra version of the song.
01:04:42
Speaker
And I stand by the reason why it sounds the way it does and it isn't all scot up is because it's on a cover album that is not a Scott cover album. Yeah. All yeah like it's all psychobilly bands and they're the one odd one out and they got to do Stray Cat Strut. Yeah. Pompadour got him in. Yeah, for sure. theres And then the sideburns helped come for the pompadour stay for the sideburns. Yeah.
01:05:09
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All right, it's going up against a cover of the Lita Ford hair metal classic appearing on the 2000 compilation Metalliska. This is Kiss Me Deadly. Which is cool too. Very good song. This is a tough matchup. This is a tough matchup. Even though this is pretty real big fishy. Super real big fishy. It's pretty summery. Yeah. Took a knot summery song and made it summery. Yeah.
01:05:38
Speaker
No, the original's kind of got like a summer house party sort of vibe to it. Meh, late summer. Summer's over. Like when Brat summer ended. Lita Ford summer began. Lita Ford summer began. Very demure. Hey, I've been doing Lita Ford fall, all right?
01:06:00
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Yes, that's right. Joan Jett July. and That's good. I remember that next year. Joan Jett June. Joan Jett June. Joan Jett June. She's badass enough to get two months. Joan Jett January. Well oh three months.
01:06:21
Speaker
I do have a funny Joan Jett story, but yeah. Jan Arden, January. You have a funny Joan Jett story? Do it. Yeah, I do. I do. So back in 2000, I want to say it was like 2008 or 2009, our old drummer, Rory, she texted me on like a Friday night and she was like, hey, do you want to go see the Foxboro hot tubs in New York City on Sunday night?
01:06:45
Speaker
And I was like, sure, for those of you who aren't acquainted, Foxborough Hot Tubbs is a Green Day side project who is, it's just Green Day. Um, ah but American Idiot was on Broadway at the time. Had just opened on Broadway and and think they were allowed to they weren't allowed to play their songs so because of the radius claws or whatever.
01:07:03
Speaker
So I'm like, yeah, I'll go see Foxboro Hot Tubs. It's not Green Day music. They have out they have an album. Yeah, they do. how Yeah. it's ah It's like a garage rocky kind of thing. that's like it's It's almost like a joke, but also kind of serious. So I'm like, yeah, I'll go. Why not? So we go, and the whole cast of American Idiot on Broadway is there. They let 100 people into the venue. It so it was at the Bowery Electric in New York City. And we were 98, 99 online.
01:07:25
Speaker
So we get in, and I'm like back towards like the railing. It's not a very big club, but I don't feel like getting socked in the face. So I was sitting at the back of the at the thing, and and all of a sudden, I feel like something drip on me. So it's New York City, so I'm assuming it's the air conditioner.
01:07:39
Speaker
So I look up and I see someone's water glass or had spillt or someone's glass had spilled on me and I look up and it's Joan Jett. And I go, oh, ah hi. And she's just like, oh, I'm sorry. I'll try to get it on the leather. And I'm like, oh, that's fine, Joan. We're good.
01:07:55
Speaker
and yeah Is it whiskey? I don't know what I would have said. Yeah. What'd you say? Do you know what it was that she spell she was drinking something? I don't know. Might've been a little, I don't know. I don't know what she was drinking. I didn't have that point. What were you doing?
Celebrity Encounters and Music Anecdotes
01:08:08
Speaker
Smell harder. We need details. So anyway, I looked up and and like, and then I turned around and then she was kind of gone. I think she was talking to other people. But yeah, that's my, that's my running with Joan Jett. She was really cool. Sorry if that was a little anticlimactic.
01:08:22
Speaker
Yeah. No, I'm spilling red. I'm spilling red. That's New York for you. She lives a long beach. I don't know what I would have said. I don't know what I would have said if it was Joan Jett. Sup, Joan? yeah Hi, Mom. yeah um Mother? Yeah. yeah ah I lean in for a kiss. Joan, I just i just need to tell you, I too love rock. I'm obsessed with you, is probably what I what i said. I'm literally obsessed with you.
01:08:51
Speaker
I feel like just vowels. Yeah, just like a lot of vowels would come out of my mouth. No actual words, but just like, <unk> i and like just know I don't know. yeah I think you were really cool. It was a very fun night. You know, well, and it's funny too, because I'm trying to think of like an equivalent thing that would happen in Edmonton, but it would have just been Chi-pig before he died. And then we'll carry on. ah When Lady Gaga first started out, she was opened up for new kids on the block.
01:09:21
Speaker
So she was touring and she came to Edmonton and then she played an after show at this like club in our weird mall. It was weird. It's a weird club. And I like somehow we like snuck into like VIP or whatever. So she was playing like Just Dance and like disco stick and like poker face. And she was like fucking wasted. And then we got to like kind of like meet her and get a photo at the end. And I was really rockabilly and I had like a big bump and like a big hair flower and like a rockabilly dress. And she was like,
01:09:51
Speaker
i love your I love your look. I was like, I love your look.
01:09:57
Speaker
And that was it. That was like the whole interaction. She's like, I love your look. I was like, I love your look. Did you have the meets put us on? She was like, I love your look. No, she was like disco stick. So she had like the blonde wig with the hair bow. Was that when she had the glasses that weren't uneven? Yes.
01:10:19
Speaker
era. I remember the app and she was like all reflective. Everything was reflective. Yeah, everything was like disco. Yeah. Yeah. The Haribo era. Yeah. Classic. Are you a pause up a little, are you a little monster? Oh yes. Oh yes. Pause up a little. love i saw um I saw Lady Gaga close out Roseland Ballroom. um It was the last concert that they ever did at Roseland Ballroom. Lady Gaga played the last night. I've never been to a concert like that before or since because everything had to go. so The bartenders were just taking bottles and pouring everything directly out, handing it to people. like
01:10:55
Speaker
nobody like This was the end of Roseland and Gaga closed it out. So that's my Lady Gaga experience. And I feel like I wasn't right up against the stage, but again, it's like, it's a big place, not a huge place. So like when she was close by, it I was like, she's just right there. And she passed right there. oh And what is this moment? And Yeah, I sold Billy Joel from Green Day a devil ducky back in the day. I worked at a little like rockabilly alt store and he came in and we used to sell his clothing line, which was Adeline. Yep. And whoever he was with held up pan like Adeline pants and was like, Oh, you want these? And they made a bit. And then he paid with a credit card and to make we always like I deed people and I did ID him for his double ducky purchase. Very cool. He bought a pirate devil ducky.
01:11:42
Speaker
I was lowkey like, who's this kind of like cute, like old punk dude with the guy liner?
01:11:51
Speaker
The Davey Havoc? Oh, no, it's Billy Joel. The other one. The other one. Okay, the end. Oh yeah, we gotta vote. Yeah, we gotta miss. I know what I'm voting for. Yeah, me too. i am'm I'm locked. Yeah, I know what I'm voting for. Yeah, I know. you know so Three, two, one. Kiss me, guys. It's deadly. right ah what What did you say? I said straight kiss. What did Mike say? Are you deadly? I said deadly. Whoa! Deadly? That's sad. That's an upset. I'm so sorry, Brian. I'm so sorry, Brian. I want to apologize to Brian Setzer and his orchestra and massup and the whole town of Massapequa.
01:12:27
Speaker
You're gonna have to write individual letters. I had a previous episode. I said it's my mission to see Stray Cat struck it. No, it's good. It's good. I'm happy we got you there. I wish I could write a song about a cat, you know? You can. No, not like that. Not like that. Not with attitude. Not like that. All right, we got one more match up to go. It's hard.
01:12:51
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ah Cover of the Phil Collins solo song, appearing on the 2007 album, Monkeys for Nothing and the Chimps for Free. This is another day in paradise.
01:13:04
Speaker
It's evil. It's spooky. It's not summery. I think about the way he says it. Just think about it. Just think about it. You just think about that? This is objectively good.
01:13:36
Speaker
A hard metal should fucking cover metal or like a hardcore fan should cover this. That would be very cool to do this breakdown. Let's power up.
01:13:48
Speaker
power up, do a real big fish cover of our cover. have a cover But like make it hardcore as hell. Just think about it. Just think about it. Would you rather hear that or another refused song? Refused.
01:14:02
Speaker
okay Bad Mary, how do you feel about the Phil Collins cover? ah So this, this is the one again, before I like really dove into the brackets that I was like, all right, I want this one to take the whole thing. I think this one is my favorite. i i love and And what's really, what's really funny is I was trying to listen to the covers and not focus on the original too much at first through like kind of my first run through. And I didn't even clock and I feel like so stupid after, because I am such a Phil Collins head. Like I am such a Phil Collins head. And I was just listening to it kind of on shuffle. I fucking love Phil Collins. Oh my god. How can you not? He didn't need to go that hard on Tarzan for us. Also, yes! Also, Genesis.
01:14:55
Speaker
is not is wild and also like i've read his so i read not dead yet and if you haven't read that please read it no i haven't it's his life crazy it's it's his life is bananas his life was awesome he has like a feud with tony bennett i don't even know like there's just so much um your book that but actually that's conflicting because lady gaga and tony bennett are like the No, I understand that too. I understand that too. And I love Lady Gaga and Tony Bennett separately, but when you read how and why it makes sense. So it's almost like a separate thing where it's respectful. Like it's not disrespectful, but it's just funny that it exists, but it's like, I never knew this was a thing. Um, but his, just his, his drive and how he did everything and how he got to places and like, just, they'll be like, he got on a plane and did a show here and it got on plane, did a show here and they needed a recording. and I don't think he ever slept.
01:15:41
Speaker
Um, but that, that being said, I'm such a Phil Collins head and heard the cover of this. And then we were in the car and Mike was like, Oh yeah. Cause you love Phil Collins. And like, that's when it double clicked. Cause I was just listening to it. I was like, it's separate own track. Like, man, this slaps. This is awesome. And he was like, Phil Collins, I'm like,
01:15:59
Speaker
That's, that's it. That's why. Where was the other half of my brain? That didn't remind me of that. Um, but like I hear this, I hear this song now when it's not playing, like that's how much I've listened to it that the other day, like Mike and I had to actively sing something else for like five minutes to get it out of my head. Cause I couldn't get it out of my head. Um, so yeah, for, for me, I want this one to take the whole thing. On our last September bracket, we didn't know effects and fat Mike totally called the winner.
01:16:27
Speaker
Right. Do you think Aaron Barrett could call the winner? There's no way. The one he'd choose to win is not on the bracket anymore. Yeah, that's what I think. yeah yeah But does he know how hard Another Damn Paradise goes? not Probably not. It's from ah from an album that people generally don't like. So much' like I guess we're out of the problem, right? It goes hard.
01:16:48
Speaker
But it's going up against an end as goldfish cover. I thought this would be one that I do love this cover and I love this song i do too yeah yeah i hard the import ponication This is bad Mary coded it is so much long island here
01:17:09
Speaker
I do like this, too. This is a tough matchup because these are probably two of my favorite songs. Yeah, I'm conflicted like this whole. I also worked with. um and ah I worked. Well, I always I, you know, Edna's Goldfish was, you know, it was a big deal back in like high school and college and whatever. But I worked with ah the guitar player's sister at one of my at one of my jobs of Edna's Goldfish.
01:18:00
Speaker
I feel like they kept it pretty punk. Yup. I think they scotted. They didn't... They scotted up a lot. A lot, but it's still pretty fun. It's not clean though. It's not like super real big fish cleany. Yeah. It still sounds a little... I feel like there's a little dirt under the fingernails. Yeah? A little dirty. A little bit. Not a lot. I like this one a lot. I'm conflicted. I know how I'm voting.
01:18:22
Speaker
I can't think of very many other songs that have like- I don't love it viscerally in my soul. I can't think of very many other songs that have like a horn punk version and a ska version. Yeah. That are yeah that different but also that similar. You know what I mean? Like they're very yeah yeah similar versions but one just injects a little bit of ska and the other one is just kind of straight horn punk and they're both really great. Yeah. They're really, by I like them.
01:18:50
Speaker
Yeah. I, I'm so, I'm so conflicted. I'm so conflicted. Cause we also know we read, we read the, we read the brackets yesterday and Mike was like, Oh, you're going to be happy. And then realize that this, these were paired in the same bracket. And I was like, ah,
01:19:07
Speaker
I'm happy to be able to touch on both because I love them both but I was like this is like deciding between my two favorite children like I don't know like it was yeah yeah it was it was hard it was hard but i I think I had an idea of how I was gonna vote and now I now I think I've changed my mind who i think i'm i'm going differently on oh who Yeah, Whoa. Okay, I'm ready. I'm ready. I'm ready. I'm ready. I'm ready. Yeah. Let's do it. Three, two, one. Another day in a year. Another day in a year. Paradise. Yo! He voted out Mike again. I am not popular, folks.
01:19:51
Speaker
mike no no i can do that cool thing with his hands that i can do ah believe back yeah That's awesome though that there was was there any unanimous No. No. No, that's good. No, everyone just hates Mike. Pretty much. I do play bass. I am the bass player in our band. So usually that's how it rolls. You know what I mean? It's kind of like we're the joke, you know? You just try and hold it down for everybody. You can try to, yeah. You are hard to replace.
01:20:34
Speaker
The semi-finals will be Boss DJ versus We Hate It When Our Friends Become Successful okay and Kiss Me Deadly versus Another Day in Paradise. Wow. i think I think Another Day in Paradise has it. I think it's got the win. I don't know. I think it's going to make it all the way to the end. It's so good. well It is pretty good. listen It's very good. Listen. You didn't vote for it.
01:20:57
Speaker
Listen, strong island, strong island forever. If another day in paradise takes the whole thing, that's a sign that it's our time to do a Phil Collins cover. like there you go I'm going to come up with it regardless, but that is a good stipulation. If it wins this contest, I will do it. we got it I'll do a Phil Collins.
01:21:19
Speaker
yeah Then we we can pressure on we could do like a like a collaborative release Yeah let's come up with something checkered pass presents but yeah yeah yes yeah exactly yeah we swing you the track and we yeah slinklaer yes Folks, you know, yeah ah why not yeah get base do think all know but all don' take out we'll take my job two base and layers case yeah It's true I play I play little bases
01:21:57
Speaker
It's because he hops around. I'm not the largest person, and i'm ah I need to run around. They'll jump in all over the place. I get it. He's aerodynamic. There was a show you played with like a large bass. Yeah, well, yes. that was it That's a different story for another day. Different story for another day. But I remember being like, he's not moving around so much. And it was so big. Because it was also $5,000. Yeah, that was a don't don't. Oh, OK.
01:22:21
Speaker
Yeah, i was on loan was based it was on loan from Fender. ah well this has yeah yeah so um All right. I'll tell the story because I can't not now. When we went to Japan for the second quarter when when did japan on second tour, I'm going to be quick because I know it's been a long show. When we went to Japan on our second tour, the airline lost my base on the way there. yep It got stuck in in Toronto.
01:22:43
Speaker
and And we had shows coming up. so The next day? The next day, or a day or day or two later, and I wasn't going to get get the bass in time. And I was freaking out. So I messaged everyone I knew in Japan, like, I don't have a bass. I need a bass. My friend Tom Donnelly, who lives our our friend Tom Donnelly, he's a great guy. He lives over in Japan. I messaged him. I'm like, Tom,
01:23:04
Speaker
I need, I need a base. Can you help me at all? He goes, give me like an hour. And he texted me back. He was like, all right, can you meet at this spot in Shibuya in Tokyo tomorrow at 3 PM? And I'm like, yes. So he's like, I'm talking with the president of Fender Japan right now. So get over there. if you can yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah. So i I go over there, I go to like this super secret like underground like ah guitar like guitar and bass like showroom that like only like the world's best artists get in. And I meet my friend, Tom, there. And he's like, come on in, man. And he's just like to this day, I thank him a million times over for saving my skin.
01:23:42
Speaker
but i get in there and they have all these they have a handful of bases picked out for me already i felt like a real like like i felt like it was crazy how did i get here exactly offender and base they were like you can use it for the for the entirety of the tour and i only needed it for one show but uh yeah it was like i did not move around at all that gig because i'm like i will not let this break Did you also like not have shot blocks? Like it was yeah a strap block agenda they i and i was like, I'm fine with this. and no and outlaw and Yeah. And the store and the the store was the, the, the, the tour was saved. So thank you, Tom. If you're listening, but yes, that's like the coolest. That's so cool. and and if you like what it did what did it What color?
01:24:25
Speaker
It was like a sea foamy green. It was sea foamy green. It was beautiful. It's actually a base. my If you go to like my, uh, it was a P base. Yeah. If you go to my, um, if you go to my social media, I think it's like my cover image on like all my social media is me in front of the Fender logo with the base I was using. Um, and it was really cool. So thank you to Tom and thank you to Fender. So yeah. yeah we're and Fender for life. Fender for life. Yeah. I think I have to for the rest of my life now. you If that's not a perfect place to segue into the closing, then I don't know what is. Thank you, Bad Mary, for coming to on to the show. and Over to you to plug. What do you got to plug? um You can listen to better days on all your streamers, but we also have a whole bunch of music out there right now. We are working on a super top secret project. It might involve people involved with SPI, so don't tell anyone.
01:25:17
Speaker
ah and um yeah so if you If you didn't know us and this is your first time hearing us, you can find us at Bad Mary Band on everything. It doesn't matter where you are from. We live stream every Tuesday night at 8 p.m. U.S. Eastern time on twitch dot.tv slash Bad Mary Band, Facebook, YouTube, TikTok, all the things, wherever you are, we are streaming there. So come check us out on Tuesday. Come say hi, hop in the chat and all that stuff. And yeah. Yeah. Hang out. Talk to us. Please reach out to us. We love
01:25:48
Speaker
hearing from everyone. And our tour dates and stuff are all online. Bedmarry.com. Bedmarry.com. And you guys rule live. So everyone, if you get a chance, you should go check them out. Yeah. Fucking ripping show. Thank you so much. You're wonderful. I just want to say, you're all wonderful. Thank you for having us. Thank you for doing what you do because this is great. You're great. We love y'all.
01:26:14
Speaker
That's all. I'll just have like that sound bit like on repeat when I go to sleep. You're wonderful. You're wonderful. You're wonderful.
Engagement and Promotions
01:26:24
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01:26:43
Speaker
It's got a friend Johnny on it and it's easier for the bits and to be upset. They're so bad about talking about the shirt. It's a shirt that you can buy and it has a pretty fun drawing that you did of our like fan and friend and it says I'm here to be ups or for the bits and to be upset or to be upset and for the bits. Yep, but it is pretty it's a cute It's very fun. It's a fun shirt. It's a fun shirt. Let's pick it up. And this episode is engineered by Joey. I did it. And it'll be edited by TBD. To follow along with the bracket, head over to shalonesh.com slash heptember2024 to see how the matchups are progressing. Next week, we finish heptember with our return guest, Jordan Morris. Woo, celebrity!
01:27:27
Speaker
And until next time, I'm Rob. so in Oh, wait, no, I'm Saxel Rob. Jesus, I fucked you up. I was gonna say slutty ass bitch. That'd work. and i Sweet Joey Christmas. Sweet Joey Christmas. Little Joey Christmas. Little Joey Christmas. God damn it. And any moral words of a band roaming fish covered, oh Lord, there must be something we can't say.