After undergoing a super-compressed hype cycle, fashion is ending the year with a very complicated mix of optimism and pessimism around the Metaverse. To dissect that, and to look at how digital-for-digital and digital-for-physical workflows and ecosystems interact, Ben talks to Cathy Hackl, Founder and Chief Metaverse Officer for Journey.

This episode of The Interline Podcast is sponsored by Cotton Incorporated. To find out more about how fashion's original fibre is preparing for a digital-native future, and to identify steps you can take today to start designing, developing, and sourcing smartly, digitally, visit www.cottonworks.com