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Best of Season 5: Welcome to the Cafe! || Chatsu Cafe #1
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Hello everybody and welcome to the second best of Season 5 episode. When we first started Chatsunami, the majority of Season 1 was done live over on Twitch. In this new series Chatsu Café, I was joined by friend and fellow co-host Martin MacAlistair to take a trip down memory lane. From what we wanted to be growing up and cinema etiquette to podcasting and dinosaurs, this is one episode that you will not want to miss! Grab your beverage of choice and enjoy the episode!
Welcome to the Chatsu Café traveller! Rest your weary bones at this cosy café and listen to its patrons chat about their day!
In our debut episode, Satsunami is joined by co-host and childhood friend Martin MacAlistair as they reminisce about their time growing up together and what led them to start the podcast. From what they wanted to be growing up and cinema etiquette to podcasting and dinosaurs, this is one episode that you will not want to miss!
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Transcript
Introduction and Evolution of Chatsukafe
00:00:00
Speaker
Hello everybody and welcome to the second best of season 5 episode. When we first started Chatsunami, the majority of season 1 was done live over on Twitch.
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In this new series Chatsukafe, I was joined live by friend and fellow co-host Martin McAllister to take a trip down memory lane. From what we wanted to be growing up in cinema etiquette to podcasting and dinosaurs, this is one episode that you will not want to miss.
00:00:26
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So grab your beverage of choice and enjoy the episode.
Childhood Dreams and Friendship
00:00:44
Speaker
Hello everybody and welcome to the first episode of Chatsu Cafe. Hope you're having an absolutely fantastic Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday!
00:00:56
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but Time is a flat circle, guys! Yeah, today i am in the cafe. I can't believe it. I mean, look, you know, we've got a board. We've got a menu. We've got Pandalonian patrons over there. We've got a Chatsu cafe. Oh my God, it is the bee's knees.
00:01:12
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I am such a boomer. And joining me today, as you can see by this cardboard cutout of my friend here,
00:01:21
Speaker
It's Martin McAllister. Martin, welcome to the Shatsu Cafe. Why are my limbs not moving? What happened to me yet? Martin, please! Are you okay? I was going to do a bit where I opened a can of Coke on stream, you know, just to make it the cafe thing, but I've noticed I've got quite a nice cake and like a milkshake in front of me, so it doesn't quite fit the theme, but I'm good.
00:01:41
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I've been wanting that for about 20 minutes.
00:01:45
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It's like the Telltale Heart.
00:01:48
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Telltale Coke. Sponsored by Coca-Cola. How are you? Cannot complain. I am excited. i am nervous, but more so excited about doing this. I've got my cup of tea out of reach, and I'm afraid I'm going to break the immersion by reaching for it. Oh, my dear. My longing for tea. Hold on. Let me see if I can remember my emotions.
00:02:10
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The more I Yeah, no, that's the, um, ooooh! I mean, you can't even see what I'm doing! I get it. Oh my goodness. Oh, there we go. Oh, I can't get my tea!
00:02:25
Speaker
Oh no! Terrifying. A thousand dollars well spent! I've never seen you make any of these emotions in real life now. It's true, I'm stoic! I'm a stoic boy, give me a break! So true. So true, I know, I know. That's why you don't come round anymore to do these in person.
00:02:43
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Well I mean that and I've got a cutout of Martin just in the corner, you know, for inspiration. When I gave you that for Christmas you were like, what do want a giant cutout of you for? But it's won you over over time. mean it's paying in dividends isn't it? It's paying.
00:02:58
Speaker
I've got a whole load of them. Every Christmas since I've known you I've just got young you a new one. It's true and they're all just swole, you know. but Actually, I said to you before we started that had a bit like a starting feed off for this and I was thinking about this episode on the car earlier and I was thinking about like what we're going to chat about and I was thinking, you know, it's really nice because we've got such a long history together that we've got so many things we can pull up on and it got me thinking I've got two numbers here
Social Media and Technology Evolution
00:03:22
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for you to guess. Oh no. Or for you to guess between how long have we known each other? How long? In years is my number.
00:03:30
Speaker
Not in minutes? Not in minutes, admit no I was going to seconds, but obviously it kept moving up as was writing it. That's a good question. So I have two I think we can put down, because I think there's a bit the debate between which one's true. See, at minimum, it's over 15 years. Correct. And that is scary, because 15 years ago, you and I were still young enough.
00:03:53
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Oh, and um, 18 years, I would say, that we've known each other. Cool. So, I've got two numbers. So 17 is what I had for us sort of being friends. So that was like when we first ended up in each other's classes at school and stuff. However, I think we went to the same, what what was it, what did they call it American? Elementary, but primary school, we went to the same primary school. And I think that's 27 years ago. 27 years ago? think so. Excuse me, um...
00:04:23
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i'm going to check my photos to see if I was on the Titanic. I'll be right back. It's been 27 years. It's been 27. About the same time I threw the... I've actually ruined my own joke. I forgot what that's called, the necklace. Oh, no I was about to say the Maid of the Mist, but that's... That's in Niagara Falls. 27 years? I cannot believe it. So, see when you were Minnie Martin back then. Did you imagine this is where you would end up...
00:04:51
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ah No, I thought I was going an astronaut if I'm honest, or like, have a flying car by now. You're an astronaut of podcasting. Yeah, yeah, that's true. I've travelled the world so much faster than I would have done in a spaceship. I did want to be a wrestler when I was little, so I kind of done one of the things that wanted to do when I was little. I also wanted to be a bin man, haven't done that yet, so I think that might be a retirement plan, like, try to become a bin man.
00:05:10
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think that's so cool, like, to see the lorries and stuff. bri I mean to be fair you'd be the smallest binmen, well binmen are small. was gonna say I don't know, some of those guys could throw me a bit. What did you want to be when were younger? Did you have like a dream? That's a good question. Because podcasting wasn't a thing. gonna say, podcasting didn't even exist to know about it. And for anyone thinking, no I do not want to be a red panda.
00:05:30
Speaker
That was a side effect of everything else. This isn't a life choice, it's a career move, okay. Um, oh, good question. I think I can do it. I did what every kid did. I flipped through all the different ones. You know, it's like, oh, do you want to be a footballer? Oh, do you want to be a fireman? Oh, do you want to be this and that? At one point, I think I probably wanted to be a super saiyan. At one point, I was like, oh, maybe teaching would be a cool thing. And then I was like, nope.
00:05:57
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Nope, nope, nope. Do you know what's ironic? See, when you're younger, you have all these different career options and then they tell you, you can be this, you can be that. But then when you get to uni, they're like, okay, you have to choose one thing. And then after uni, it's like, I could have been a big man. I could have been a red panda, you know.
00:06:14
Speaker
Could have been anything. This is depressing satsui, was here. All I'll say is 27 years ago when we probably knew each other, yeah, I honestly didn't expect we would be sitting here. And again, that's not like a clairvoyant thing. I'm not going lie, I'd be very surprised you'd predicted this. I was going to say, 27 years ago, don't think the internet was working with dial-up at that point. So this was a far off dream to have a live stream of stuff going on. I mean, that is true, actually. Now you've got phones in your pockets and kids on your lawn, you know. Now the world has changed and not for the better.
00:06:51
Speaker
Let's fast forward with it. So 27 years ago, so I think that's when we probably would have first met, but then like 17 years ago, that was kind of when we started becoming friends. So let's bring the time up a bit. ah So we're not reminiscing too hard about the 90s and get stuck there. But my yo-yos.
00:07:04
Speaker
My yo-yos. My pogs. My pogs. My Beyblade. Have you heard our chat tsunami? It's back. Beyblade form. But yeah, sorry. Please continue. Oh no, didn't have a bit for that, was just gonna say let's get into the noughties instead of the nineties. think we kind of become closer friends at the end of school into university time. A little older, a little less mini-Martin. Medium-Martin. Medium-Martin, like that, I like that. I'm trying to think of like, small satsu. Standard satsu.
00:07:30
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ah That's how introduce myself on my CV now. It's like standard satsu. Do you know what the terrible thing is? I went to reach out my hand there and I forgot I don't have hand brackets. There you go.
00:07:42
Speaker
Take my hand, Martin. Put that away. How rude.
00:07:47
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but But no, honestly, even in the 2000s, I don't think I would have predicted that. I think I was talking to, you know, our friend and fellow co-host Andrew about this and how if we had started a podcast in university, it would have been end entirely different. Do you feel that way as well with your content journey and journal things that everything you would have put out there would have just been totally different? Oh, totally. I think as well, in many ways, i'm I'm quite lucky. I think that i didn't think to start these things earlier.
00:08:17
Speaker
Because you're laughing but you know me a bit better than most other people do and I was not the greatest of persons throughout my teenage and early 20s and it wasn't really until my mid 20s that I kind of became who I am today so I'm kind of glad I didn't have social media as much making document what I was up to I'm glad there's not much documentation for got to not that I got up to anything terrible or illegal I'll put that in the bud but I wasn't a very kind person I wasn't as good a person as am now I did a lot soul searching in my mid 20s so no it would have been very different and I'm glad wasn't there What about yourself? What do you think would have happened to you? Now that is a good question. I don't think it would have continued to be. I have done a lot of different hobbies, I suppose is the right word for, well, not for Chatsunami, but even pre-Chatsunami. You know, as you know, I never shut up about language learning. I mean, I've got Duolingo in the back burner, just sitting there like an Egyptian mummy, I would say.
00:09:12
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Between language learning, between writing, between many. Do you remember, and this is going way way back. This is in the lore, by the way. This is in the Martinsatsu lore here that we used to run a gaming group on Bebo, of all places. Yes.
00:09:30
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I forgot about that. How could you? You said you'd never. That was the name of the group. Martin never forgets about this group. That's so specifically weird. I totally forgot about that. Wow. That upper part my brain there that I just like, that was obviously just closed off. I genuinely forgot about that. Did you actually?
00:09:44
Speaker
Genuinely. I thought you were going to mention the Doctor Who stuff, but yeah, that's. Oh yeah. ah I forgot all about that gaming thing on Bleebo. Yeah. I mean, to be fair, it was in Bebel, and for anybody joining us in the cafe right now, first of all, hello, make yourself welcome, have a cup of tea or coffee, hot chocolate, maybe a snack, and listen to us reminisce, but if you know what Bebel is, please will let yourself be known to us, Bebel. Because I feel crazy when I talk to people about Bebo. I always say, oh, do you remember Bebo? Bebo was amazing. And they're like, what you mean, MySpace or Facebook?
00:10:18
Speaker
I think that's the thing with Bebo is it existed in between Facebook, if that makes sense. Because Facebook when it first started was kind of older person's thing. And MySpace was dying off and this Bebo came up. But it was only there for such a short time because all the celebrities were starting to use Twitter. And Facebook was kind of still kicking up. So yeah, Bebo was such a small window in time. Yeah, because... I think it was mainly UK-centric, wasn't it? Yes.
00:10:39
Speaker
don't know, I said that's a strange piece. Yes. Who was in your, like, top eight Bebo friends?
00:10:47
Speaker
Well, you, of course. didn't know Andrew back then, but I'm sure he would have been. don't even know if Andrew did have Bebo. I'm going to have to ask him that. I'll ask him that when we record Animation Month.
Cinema and Concert Experiences
00:10:59
Speaker
Right in the middle the episode. the way, you ever had Bebo? ah It's like, now I know you're talking about the philosophical ramifications of Detective Pikachu here, but...
00:11:11
Speaker
Yes or no, our friendship depends on this. I honestly think that that was the peak of social media. I know it's rose-tinted glasses, but the only misinformation you had, right, was, you know, those YouTube videos of Spider-Man 4, and they were convinced that Jim Carrey was going to be Carnage, right? Do you remember you used to get a lot of the chainmail kind of things? Like the copy and paste, like if you don't copy this into your- Oh yeah. I know we still get a lot that now. When we were younger it was so much more convincing because we were young. It was like, you know, there was stuff in there that was pretty scary. Tag six of your friends or killer clown will send you love on Bebo in two weeks and all this. Oh god, I completely forgot about them. You see them pop up and it's like, you're the Obi-Wan Kenobi moment of, now there's a name I've not heard in years. Panini the Clown or something.
00:11:59
Speaker
i fit easy claim I couldn't remember, you know, the joke, that the famous clown. I was trying to think of you. Oh, Benito the clown goes to the doctor. And they say, doctor, you know what? Half of my meatball man they are.
00:12:12
Speaker
This is why I run the cafe. But yeah, there was so much of that. I remember you could customize your profile and things. This baffles me to this day because Bebo and then especially MySpace was so customizable that you could go in and you could change the CSS. That's actually a lot of how I learned to early programming was through learning HTML and CSS through, well we were not learning about having the confidence to do it. That's kind of what's put me off on the track of programming. That was so crazy that you were allowed to edit websites just on the fly like that and customise things and make these themes and upload them and the internet was way less standard and it's something I see a lot of people talk about in video games nowadays but everything was so... don't know what the opposite of minimalist would be. Maximalist?
00:12:51
Speaker
but everything they was so over the top and nobody had a clue what they were doing so everything was just bright and gaudy and everywhere it was a very different looking time on the internet do you know what it reminds me of you know that episode of the simpsons and obviously we can't have an episode without a simpsons reference but do you remember that episode where it was homer that makes his website but it doesn't really do anything it's just got things like the dancing jesus gif and Just all the gifs horribly all over the place. And that's what 90% of the internet was.
00:13:21
Speaker
ah People will look at us and be like, no, surely not. Surely they had, you know, better taste. It's like, no, no, no, guys. It's 100% that there wasn't anything better. I'm sorry. it Guys, do you know what saw the other day? And this actually threw me back to the Bebo days. It was, you know, well, robot chicken, that's been going on for years now. But you know, in particular, and it's kind of very appropriate considering the way that you're cut out as dressed here, but...
00:13:50
Speaker
It was a parody for Mario, I think. But it's like Mario and GTA. Oh, yes. But do you remember you could have videos on your profile? Yep. And it was like, oh, look, it's Mario and GTA and Mario and Resident Evil for some reason.
00:14:06
Speaker
They loved putting Mario into these horrible situations. but Mario being horrible things is always like one of those, edge even to this day, you still see ones and it's like, oh, what would happen if Mario, if mushrooms were actually drugs? It's like, yeah, that joke's been going a while. Yeah, it's been going on since the dawn of time. It's like, oh, where do Sonic store his rings? Pac-Man's eating pills. Oh, oh, oh, oh,
00:14:29
Speaker
So this has kinda led me to a wee bit of brain thing here so in the context these videos the very first video I ever watched on youtube was a final fantasy 7 I wanna say advent children can't remember the of the movie but like an abridged joke version I have no idea what it was actually called but also remember because I was at a karate class when I was about younger and this guy was saying to me was like Have you ever heard of this website called YouTube? It sticked to my head because I never heard of it. But that was the very first video I'd ever watched on YouTube. It was Final Fantasy VII Advent Children abridged. I'm going to have to go find it. There's like children in high school now younger than YouTube. Just to put some more context on this. My jaw dropped there.
00:15:03
Speaker
Can you remember your first YouTube? Actually, I'm going to guess what your first YouTube video was. Your first YouTube video was... No! Vegeta vs Broly Linkin Park Faint AMV. You know, i would not be surprised if it was like, let the bodies hit the floor. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you remember, there was a period for ages where YouTube started cracking down. it was like the first foray into copyright stuff. So it was like they had to mute copyrighted content. What they did instead was, and for anyone who's listening to the tomes right now, please...
00:15:40
Speaker
Grab a drink, it's gonna be a while. But remember there was that where they were saying, okay, you can't use this song. You can't use Linkin Park's Numb. You can't use Wake Me Up Inside or Bring Me To Life. You can't use any of these. But you can use this royalty-free music. And one of them was the... the party set of They're back, they they're tch, tch, frot! You know?
00:16:03
Speaker
but It was just like, what the hell? But that song is now ingrained in gares and my mind. Do you think whoever made that song, do you think they get royalties now, or do you think that they're just like, nah, I sold my soul long ago just to get rid of that? think, well, the band's called Drowning Pool and they are on Spotify so hope they get something out of it I'm sure someone I know's seen them live. It's one of those ones, it's a shame to see a one hit wonderband live because everyone's like, aw, the other stuff's good and you all kind of like stand around and politely applaud but you're waiting for the bodies to hit the floor. That's what you're there for. Yeah, that song has become ingrained in culture forever thanks to that one decision by YouTube to ban everything else. I just want to draw attention to, you know, the rest of the cafe here. One of our members here, Lightfoot Mars, saying those are some very emo song choices. You're not wrong. You're not wrong. just what i was It was a different time.
00:16:55
Speaker
Do remember AMVs were the thing back then? They were the, i don't want to swear, They were the bees-ness. You know, they I don't know why I said it like that, apologize Martin. I don't know what that gimmick was supposed to be. They were the bees knees. The knees of the bees, yes. It's quite a damn old.
00:17:14
Speaker
with the so knees rather than the wasps ankles that were the bees knees but they were everywhere what i'm saying is you don't get a good amv anymore that so lincoln park brought a bunch of new songs out last year and that was how people tested if they were good songs or not they just made amvs with them that was such a great bit so the new was it what's the the name of the newest dragon ball z game again it's like burst force something oh uh sparking zero sparking z that was so wrong I knew it was two words. mean, you're not close enough, yeah. You got it. But was the intro to that. People were putting the new Linkin Park songs over it. Like, is this a good Linkin Park song? Yes.
00:17:50
Speaker
It works with the intro to a Dragon Ball Z game. It's 10 out of 10. Did you ever I can't believe I'm laughing at this, but did you ever see the one where it was a guy who went to the Lankham Park concert and he had his phone up and I think it was when they were playing them or whatever? And who' was like the Dragon Ball EMP. That was such a good bit. It's just like, imagine paying all that money for it. And you know what? I can't, I genuinely, I would not be mad. I would be watching that movie being like, hell yeah.
00:18:20
Speaker
So I've got a constant story. Kind of similar, not similar, but on the same vein as that. So one of my favourite bands of all time is band called the Gas Anthem. And, They play like New Jersey Rock and they get banned. I've seen them hundreds of times live and I'll see them hundreds times more. And it's at one of the gigs sold out in Edinburgh. I guess like the last couple of songs they got for their on-co and come back on. And and my wife are standing quite far back but two people ahead of us. A guy phones his friend on video call, right? And holds him up. So he's obviously looking out of the main phone camera, right? But what's happened obviously is so he's watching the thing for this guy's phone but we're just seeing him in his living room just sitting there because it's a fire.
00:18:58
Speaker
guy's main screen. What he does. Obviously, just completely unaware that we're all watching him, but your eyes are glued to this. But he just goes and makes a cup of tea and is sitting having a cup of tea and a biscuit watching this man.
00:19:11
Speaker
And was like, this is the coolest thing ever. ah This guy is experiencing the same live show I am. And I'm watching him have a cup of tea. That's what you'd probably pay for, isn't it? And I was like, I was angry at myself because I could be looking at anything else. But he keeps getting drawn. Oh, he's putting one sugar in there. Oh, nice. Yeah, that's quite a good colour, that tea.
00:19:31
Speaker
And I'm like, why am doing this? What is the band? I hate, well, not hate, but it's always like a funny memory, I suppose. Say when you see people in a concert, you're just like, what actually are you doing? I remember partner and I, we went to, and again, this isn't as rock and roll, but we went to, it was like, we've got tickets for this, the Les Mis thing. But what didn't realise was, and again, I just want to preface, we are not old enough to have been like in the same school as Alfie Bowencoe.
00:19:59
Speaker
But I didn't realise that they were actually singing that day. And I was like, oh, cool. That looks like Alfie Ball. But other than the fact that, you know, he's singing along and he's a good singer, but he definitely loves himself when he's singing.
00:20:14
Speaker
He was lingering. And there were these older women in the front, let's just say. And every time he finished a song, they were up club. Yes, love that. I genuinely think if they got the opportunity, they would have started a mosh pit.
00:20:29
Speaker
Lay mosh pit if you will. Do you hear the people sing? No, but see those old grass breaking up. um but There was people I remember behind us that were singing. Oh no, that's... See now, this is the etiquette. See if you're at a concert like you are, you know, you're encouraged to sing. mean, I've been too try to... Try and think of the last one. I think you've actually been Ed Sheeran of all people. Oh, isn't No, Travis, sorry, Travis was the last one. Ed Sheeran was great as well. I'd love C18. Oh, he's such a good act, honestly. That was actually the same time that the trains were off. I don't know if I told you that the Oh, you did tell this, yeah. Yeah, for anyone doesn't know, there was a massive train strike in, I think, the whole of the UK, wasn't It wasn't just Scotland. So no one could get a train home, and there was just this mass exodus after.
00:21:16
Speaker
of just people walking for the train. Oh, it was absolutely insane. But again, there's like, there's that etiquette of if you're going to show like that, you know, it's very lively and whatnot, that's fine. I'm sorry, but want to hear you sing. Do you hear the people sing right in my ear? i mean, i had enough of that in high school.
00:21:36
Speaker
That's always the tune I go to, see if a piano comes up and it's like, do you play? And I'm like, do I play? I've got New Ivory and it's literally just dun dun dun know the notes I know the notes I don't know the chords don't be greedy Bill what are your thoughts on that though? People singing at concerts and things?
00:21:57
Speaker
It's concerts knock yourself out that's what you're there for i have have some fun bit of riot theatre shows very much less so I've paid probably more than a concert to hear specifically those people but I want to say my least favourite don't know what is my least favourite my most favourite can't really decide i had one of the worst experiences in the cinema of all time to go see Les Mis when that came out Oh no, where are you going with this? No, no did nothing too bad, but two really annoying things happened at the same time. So firstly, the guy sitting next to me was like tapping his foot along to it, which is fine at first, but La Mis has no musical breaks.
00:22:27
Speaker
So this guy was tapping his foot for free. And it was in one of the smaller cinemas, so it wasn't even like big chairs where I wouldn't notice, the whole row was rocking every time this guy tapped his foot. Like I said, very small cinema, and at the same time next door, The Dark Knight was showing, or The Dark Knight Rises, think it would have been. I think you've told me this. Yeah, one of the Batman songs I'm showing next door. And so it gets to the bit where all his friends get killed in the start revolution, it's like the Empty Chairs song, and it's like really sad, and it's just his voice. But you can hear the chase scene...
00:22:57
Speaker
from Batman reverbing through the walls. This guy's tapping his foot for two hours at this point. We've still got another hour of the filming to go. He's singing his sad song. Now you can hear the background is the Batman. And was what is this film? Why have I paid so much money to see this in a cinema? I don't know if I would i see Christian Bale. Batman and Lemus!
00:23:22
Speaker
At that point honestly I was waiting for it, I was waiting for him to pop through the screen. I saw it twice in the cinema but I enjoyed it much more the second time. I can't believe I saw that film twice. Anyway. Why? don't know. I must have been trying to someone. I was gonna say it's like the first time you're like, hmm, I wonder if Batman will show Tell me what the people are singing! was before all the Cinematic Universe stuff, so like I wasn't you know wasn't that ready for it yet. Oh, of course, of course. I'm trying to think of the last terrible cinema experience that I've had. Probably when you went to go see World of Rehearum and I wouldn't shut up next to you.
00:23:57
Speaker
Every time something cute happens, I'm like, on my feet, yeah! I mean, to be fair, that is a hell yeah movie. That was... And again, I cackle. See, every time I listen back to our episodes and I tell it to people where there was a guy literally a few seats alone
00:24:16
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scene where one of the characters, this is Lord of the Rings, okay, you know, it's Lord of the Rings, it's usually very stoic, it's very old, serious. And it was like when the guy in freezing cold temperatures takes off his shirt and starts pummeling me, what did he do to this? And it's like Mother Nature that takes him down in the end.
00:24:33
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And the got up and Sorry, was it that bad? Or was it when they fought the troll? It was when he fought the troll. And he just stood up and walked out and just didn't come back. i love that that was his breaking point because there was so much more nonsense to come as well. He didn't event know what he walked out on. It's so good though. The other one I remember, I remember going to see Sonic 3 and would you believe it was empty?
00:24:59
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It was all family, but it was empty. And it was just me and my partner because, you know, me going by myself, that would look a bit strange. But it was us, a couple of families in front of us and maybe one or two families behind us. But it it was empty. I was like, this is a new film, you know. It's for Sonic fans.
00:25:16
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When I went to go see Brave, the Pixar movie, I went with my wife and we were like the last two on the screen and we got separated. So it's like, I want to roll with like a family of six. They're all going like doing little kid stuff and just throwing popcorn and arguing. And I'm just sitting there in the row like trying to watch the most serious man on the planet.
00:25:35
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You're like, shh, this is a f***er. This is cultural heritage. I don't know who the bear's going to be. Who's that? I miss the bear. And I think I'm not much of a family man. I don't, you know, I'm not great with kids. That was like my worst nightmare.
00:25:49
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My wife's like, she's having a great time. Down a few rows further down with like a really nice family. They sort of, she became part of their family. Well, I was just a weird outcast on the end of the aisle. You're not my real mom. shut up mom it's a weird thing because it's either going to be kids or teenagers that it cause the main ruckus isn't it don't get me wrong i remember years ago i went with a friend to see remember was a terrible film anyway but we went to see this film and this couple sat literally it was empty like it was empty it was the middle of the day this couple sat a couple of seats beside us in the back row so i was like okay but weird but okay then they brought a carrier bag out and they' like okay you know maybe they brought a couple of snacks When I say they brought out a packet of digested biscuits, and like, you know one of those big packs of the cans you get? The eight pack or the old pack or whatever? It was a chonky bag. So all you would hear in the silence of the darkness was pssst, pssst.
00:26:46
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why would you do this to me that's ridiculous loves to come up and sit next to you just to assert dominance as well oh god i mean some things it's quite funny because as i was saying with the sonic one the only funny thing that happened was at the very beginning of the film they pan around and they show shadow and stasis and everything and this kid is where the shadow popped the kid turned around and went that's shadow
00:27:12
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It was so funny. When I went to see Sonic 2, though, there was a wee boy that he got up, and in one of the scenes, Jim Carrey does the flossing dance, and this wee boy got up and started flossing. You should have seen his mum. His mum was mortified. His mum was like, sit down, sit down right now.
00:27:32
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It's like... It's so funny. But alternatively, and now I've said this on the podcast before and on stream, but I remember when I went to see the, think it was the Muppets film, and there were these kids who were clearly bored and they were running all around the cinema. They just didn't care. And then all of a sudden, halfway through the film, all hear is this heavy breathing behind me.
00:27:53
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What the kids were doing, again, it was empty, but what the kids were doing was they were just sitting behind and they were just resting their heads on the back of seats. It was the weirdest thing. It was like, why? Why? Why me? I mean, I've had, you know, the usual teens who are like, ooh, this is a terrible film, and you're like, eh.
00:28:13
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he archer it's got them had not before though where someone has had to genuinely be like no get out i don't think so i'm just trying to think though i typically get quite lucky i think the cinema stuff i've never really had no i think i typically got very lucky with this stuff that's actually sparked a memory there are well actually too i remember once when i was younger i was away to see think it was shrek of all things and just as the movie was about to start they literally stopped the film and they're like oh sorry ladies de and gentlemen we've put in the wrong film It's The Mummy 2 or something. That's how long ago it was. It's like The Mummy 2. You're going to have to go to the other screen to watch the film. And I was like, oh, okay, fair enough. I was a kid, you know, wasn't it? It's always going to go, this is outrageous. But I remember in the news around the same time, there was like a cinema, and this is horrific, funny, but horrific, where they were supposed to be showing that Zathura film, the space Jumanji one, and instead they put on The Hills Have Eyes. Yeah.
00:29:11
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But they didn't warn them, they didn't realise it was on! And that fellow man has some very brutal things in it. So yeah, of course, loads of traumatised kids, angry parents. There was one time the cinema was nearly burned down, I'll tell you that one, for The Hobbit.
00:29:28
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This is just a tsunami cinema. I guess this is just a low dump for Satsunami. What's this one? So I went to see The Hobbit with one of my friends, and i think it was around... and beside that I think I was in university, like towards the end of uni, and I came back home to visit, and he's like, oh, do you want to go see The Hobbit? And I was like, yeah.
00:29:46
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Well, why not? I wasn't really interested, but thought, you know, I'll go out for the night. And it was quite a late showing. And as you know, it's a very, very long film. So we got to the scene where, you know, Thorin and Co, they climb up the tree and they're being chased by the orcs.
00:30:02
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You know, the CGI ones are like, all of a sudden, as they lit the fire. I kid you not, this actually happened. Mandalorians, it actually happened. We... Yeah, the whole screen just cut out. And then they went, I'm sorry, ladies and gentlemen, there's a fire outside.
00:30:18
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but Please leave but the exit. And I was like, oh, OK. So we had to like, it's the only time I've ever been down the fire escape in that particular cinema. And then we're waiting to get back inside for the film.
00:30:30
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And then we were like, should we even bother? See, to this day, genuinely, I have never watched The Hobbit all the way through. I watched the scene online and everything, but I've never watched it all the way through because my partner and I, we did a watch through of all the Lord of the did I think, The Hobbit after it or before it. If I noticed I was The Hobbit before then, it was Lord of the Rings. But anyway, we watched them and I fell was asleep at the end of the Hobbit.
00:30:57
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So I've never really watched it from start to finish. That is my confession of the night. That is my sin. Your cinema sin. But that's just a sin. A cinema sin.
00:31:10
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and thanks for watching The cinema's a weird, weird one. Because would you say, and I'm not saying because obviously you're busy with wrestling, you're busy with content creation, and obviously your job and real life responsibilities, but do you feel as if you go to the cinema less nowadays? Oh yeah, 100%. I was very lucky during Universal. I lived next to the cinema. Ended up with one of those unlimited passes for Cineworld. It was brilliant, man.
00:31:33
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You could go like multiple times a week. I got used to going on my own as well. You would just go to the cinema yourself. I really enjoyed that. Back then, I enjoyed the whole process of going out. The whole yeah you know the event. I enjoyed the event. And now I'm kind of the opposite. I can't be bothered going to the cinema a lot of time. I'll do it for the odd big film, but I think, especially post-Avengers, I'm not that bothered by any of the big films in the cinemas now. Obviously, apart from Lord of the Rings, Lord of the Rehearum, but I think. You know I'll go see the new Godzilla film, I'll go see if there's a really funny film to catch as my I'm not a big cinema go, I'm not a big movie guy now. lot of that's down to Netflix and my TV's good now. I know sounds kinda stupid but you know what mean, the gap between seeing something in HD, you know compared to having like a CRT monitor or like when I first moved out we had like the early HD TVs but now my setup at home's so good that I'm kinda like, I don't really want to go to the cinema to have a worse experience than sitting in my house.
00:32:21
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Like said I'll do it for like really big movies but yeah i feel like I'll go to cinema less and less now. And the thing always enjoy it when I go. So that I'm not like, I'm poo-pooing the cinema, like I love going to cinema. It's just like, I'm only going to go for a special occasion now. Is that kind know how you feel? you kind different from that? No, I'm very much in a similar boat. It's weird because I feel as if there's not really much that I'm looking forward to in the cinema anymore. And I know that sounds very old man-esque to be like, there's no good films anymore.
00:32:47
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And yeah, I'll give you a funny story because I feel, well, not bad, but one of the Podpat collective members that we have in the group, Marie, who is also in the cafe with us, sitting over there, of course, was saying how every time we look at the group chat, she'll say, oh, I'm going to the cinema today.
Films and Tourism Impact
00:33:06
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I'm going to the cinema tonight. And it's like, how many? Because, you know, she's a co-host of the We Needed Roads podcast as well. So it's kind of part of the drama. I don't know if it's like, don't know, unless I have to. Like when we went to see War of the Rahiram, that was business expense.
00:33:23
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Tax rate up. Even Marie there is talking about that film Flo that's coming out in the UK. Oh That won the awards, didn't it, the Oscar? I mean, I heard about the awards, but again, it's one of those films that's like, all I know is it's about a cat and it's got awards. Other than that, not clue. Not clue, I've heard great things about it.
00:33:41
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I'll need to check out because that is actually, speaking of podcast and animation, of course, that is something we are going to be talking about. Ooh, next month? Sorry, no, two months ago. in may we are going to be talking about the well the wonderful world of animation literally animation uh-huh do you know i'm kicking myself because i can't remember who told me that pun it was me yeah i can't take credit for it i'm like who is it it was me no no it was genuinely yes no it's because somebody else left a comment with the exact same joke i didn't know messenger chat yeah i remember that
00:34:18
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i was there first but i honestly cannot wait for that because i mean we're going to be talking about well you and i we arere going to be talking about walson groma we're going to be talking about and about pissing boots the last wish i don't play enough yet another film about cats what else are we going to think andrew and i we are going to be talking about detective pikachu's one of them know that we're still deciding on the anime film and then for the Final film? Honestly, I'm not too sure because initially i was going to do a trivia quiz and then you were like, no, do a Frozen episode you covered. Yeah, finally get to do an episode on Frozen. Oh, Moana. I really love Moana. Really? Honestly, you don't need to come to the studio. I will do it myself. I will record.
00:34:59
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but it was on Moana you still have to edit it though like I'm not editing but I love Moana so much that I would happily talk about it uninterrupted I would monologue ah about Moana for two hours but I mean is this because you like the film or is it because you just like The Rock both I love this film It's also the music's the same guy that did, well not all the songs don't think, but at least one of the songs is the same guy that Hamilton Lin-Manuel Miranda and then Jermaine Clement from Flight the Conchords is in it. So let the people speak, but all I'm saying is if they don't say Moana they're wrong.
00:35:34
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ah Let the people speak and let them say Moira. I genuinely don't think we have a Disney film for an Animation Month, which... That's a bit of a crime. is a bit of a crime, yeah. Because, I mean, we've got stop motion with Wallace and Gromit. We've got the CGI real-life blend.
00:35:49
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I mean, let's face it, it was either Detective Pikachu or who Framed Roger Rabbit. I'm going to be honest, after the Super Mario Brothers film, I've had enough of Bob Hoskins. Oh, well, okay, yeah, for legal reasons, that's a joke. Wish my Red Panda lawyer is not under the table.
00:36:06
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You thought you've some time off. We've got anime, of course. We're still kind of deciding which film to do for that. This is a cheeky sneak peek for all the Mandalorians out there. Because I don't know, initially I was like, yeah, let's do a Studio Ghibli film. But we've done about, I want to say two of them? Two, three? I watched both Call Me By Your Name, or is it just your name it's called? I watched that, and I watched Suzume back to back on Netflix, and they were both very good. Is that the one where the guy turns into a chair? Yes. Yeah, that really put me off, I'm not going to lie.
00:36:34
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No, it's phenomenal. Genuinely, I was with the whole thing until in the trailer, he turned into a chair and i'm like, right, I'm out. Honestly, no, honestly, only makes the film better. Really? Enough of this chair slander. Yeah, enough of this protagonist has to be not being turned into a chair. Honestly, after all films, it feature a man turned into a chair. It's part of the plot. Four legs made of wood.
00:36:54
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Exactly. Hollywood, get on it. Yeah, that was actually one of the ones that we thought of doing. I thoroughly enjoyed it. Yeah, because I know Andrew, he absolutely loves your name. And by your name, I mean the film, your name. He also loves the name Mark McAllister, but I get that. Yeah, love it too. If he wasn't called Andrew, he'd be called Mark McAllister.
00:37:13
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I hear that a lot to me. When I was in Tokyo, there's a famous scene at the end of Yonami, and there's a staircase. When I was in Tokyo, I was actually pretty close to that staircase. was like, I should maybe go visit it, but it's like it was just kind of out the way of, we'd been there for like another couple of days, probably would have gone, but it was just about out the way just to go to a random staircase, you know Because it's not like it's an exhibit for a film, but it's just a still from the movie, you know what mean? so it didn't go in the end, but I keep seeing people on Twitter it and on Instagram and scan stuff having gone, I'm like, oh, well, that's another trip back to Japan for that.
00:37:43
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What I love is, and maybe it's a cultural thing, but what love is there's two staircases I can think of. Well, technically three me if you include the Rocky staircases, but people still treat that with respect. But you've got two staircases. You've got the one from Joker. Yes. And you've got the one from Your Name.
00:38:00
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Every time I see the Your Name one, you know, it's all very cutesy, oh, legal. Then you get... but Then you get to the Joker one that's like, dude, what the hell? Get off my stairs.
00:38:12
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I need to take the trash off. What the hell? You know, you get so many different ones. I don't know if it's weird, but then again, I've never had enough time to compile cinematic staircases. Oh, what a series that should be. Chatsune staircase. weirdly enough it would probably be the series that would launch this podcast into the mainstream the limelight i try to think of other staircases not so much specifically staircases well that is funny what was thinking of was talking about like people getting like get away like how you have the um the pizza on the roof house and they put up like a whole bunch of fences and said please stop coming to our house and throwing pizza on the roof with the
00:38:53
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We're getting rats, we're getting all sorts of problems because once a week someone comes up and throws an entire cheese pizza on our roof. I mean the ninja turtles are bad enough, you know. I know it is. I'm laughing, I do genuinely feel distraught for them because must be awful. But at the same time, very funny. Where it's not you. Imagine if that was me, I'd be absolutely up and out. It'd be the worst thing ever to happen. to me. think there's always that element to it of that's you getting affected by it, must be very very annoying. One thing I'll say for the staircase and your name, but Tokyo obviously is just full of, it's a bit like I assume like, you know people that come to London and stuff that haven't been before and it's like there's so many scenes from movies just all over the place that kind of don't stop to kind of look at them after a while you just thought yeah, that's where that was and that's where that thing you know what mean, so Tokyo's very similar to that it's just there's just iconic movie scenes everywhere you yoke as well when we went there and it was like oh yeah, that's that building, that's that building, no, that was inspired by, that was inspired that was inspired by, you know, as opposed to when it's one in a big area, you're like, oh, that's so specifically that thing. When I went to Dubrovnik, they were very excited about Game of Thrones having been filmed there, which I thought was really funny because obviously it's like the split cast for Game of Thrones. So some of them had to go to really cold bits of Scotland and Ireland and even further north at Greenland and stuff. And then a bunch of them just got shipped out to Croatia for like six months. Brilliant.
00:40:00
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I know which team I want to be part I was gonna say, is that not what they used to do in the X Factor? Do you not remember that, where it was like a year, and I'm talking years ago. No, no, where it was like when the particular acts would get through in the X Factor, and they would split them off into their different categories, so you get like men, women, groups groups, that was the other one, yeah, and it would be like the different judges, and it would be like, oh, Simon Cowell, oh, he's got his manch in an eey or yeah also but the mansion it's and then it's Louis Walsh. Because he's the place in Ireland that's like... Get a ride in there or something over.
00:40:40
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Make it a day trip. Yeah, maybe just stayed at home, mate. That's good to be the Zoom.
00:40:49
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I know that didn't exist back then, but... Oh, that's good to be the email, Lee. Come on. Yeah, the amount of places, though, yeah, that are like, please come in. This thing was filmed. Because I have to say, you do notice, and I notice, maybe not so much for films, but definitely for tourism, when my partner and I went over to China years and years. Again, this was pre-COVID. And I remember we went all over the place and a lot places that I wouldn't have, you know, normally have gone to.
00:41:18
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But then by the time we got to Shanghai, it was rife with tourists. The irony there, me saying, Look at all these tourists. But i genuinely, I kid you not, I'd spent most of the time there as basically the only tourist within like a hundred mile radius, it felt. I genuinely counted, I think, four, maybe? Tourists, or not tourists, but either foreigners who lived there or were just passing through. But then as soon as I got to Shanghai, the first thing I see was this big English man, bald head, big deer belly, going, oh, this is a lovely city. I was like, oh no, I'm back in Durasuru. Because I remember we talked about that, of course, in our episodes ages ago, which technically, would you believe, is episode zero of Chow Tsunami?
00:42:05
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Oh, yeah. Because technically it's about travel and, well, travel and food, but we we talked mainly about travel, didn't we? That was a good day episode, but it always makes me laugh.
00:42:17
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say You would have obviously felt it there but even I think when you go on holidays and people like yourself try to learn the language a bit, obviously you don't but you feel like you fit in a bit more and you're like oh yeah I'm doing tourism right and then you see other people like no you're doing tourism wrong. it's like, they're probably thinking the exact same thing about me. I mean i thought I was doing good and then all of us but And the doors flung open, like, my partner and were having dumplings somewhere, and all of a sudden the doors flew open, and there was a bunch of these tourists just speaking completely perfect Mandarin, like, floating, and I was like, I like dumplings.
00:42:50
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They were like, oh, it's so tasty. Oh, you're the best. You're the king of dumpling, blah, blah, blah. They actually didn't say that for legal reasons. That's a joke, but... Oh, was going to say, like, who's the king of dumpling? I don't know, but I would like to meet that person. Anyone in the cafe with us, if you would like to find the Dumpling King? Is that going to be your new D&D session?
00:43:09
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Oh, Hunt for the Dumpling King. to do do to do do do da Dumpling King. I don't know much classical music. I'm sorry. but Like all classics, set say you may yeah they have to get invented somewhere so maybe that was the start of you writing a classic. Nobody's gonna be watching this in a hundred years going, who was this Dumpling King?
00:43:27
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ah I like to think the Dumpling King looks a wee bit like, you know, the onion out of Overcooked. Yes. But just a dumpling with a crown on and a wee cape. Yep, love that. Just runs around. I was gonna say, I think the artist too. The one who drew you this episode. I think he's gonna kill me to be honest. Mum up.
00:43:46
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Yep.
00:43:49
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I don't mean the artist of life. I mean, no. Sorry, sorry, sorry. Yeah, I see the confusion now. I was going to say, it was very prophetic that she she drew you with overalls and a Mario cap.
00:44:02
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Oh god, actually, speaking of Mario, we should probably mention that before we- I can't believe but the whole
Mario Month and Gaming Discussions
00:44:08
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reason we're doing this. I can't believe as of doing this episode, and you'll probably watching this while Mario month is out, yeah, we have been doing, oh, just an absolutely fantastic month of Mario content. The month before, in February there, we were doing Avatar The Last Airbender with Andrew, which was absolutely fantastic. And then I thought, you know what?
00:44:28
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and Enough of these philosophical ideas. thinking it's time to get silly with her and then we ended up and that was a bot yeah of course we decided to do mario month because mario is 40 years old isn't he yeah bit older than us i mean as a concept by the way not as a man no
00:44:49
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How old is Mario? I don't know. Anybody with us here, how old is Mario? Like as a guy? Is this going to be like a thing where it's like, he's been 20 all along? Yeah, was going to say, like, it's because he hasn't really aged since the first game to the... I feel like we must discussed this at some point during the four episodes about old Mario actually is, but yeah, he's somewhere between 20 and 80. He's not a Lego boxer! He can...
00:45:14
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you can ah ah Between 3 and 99, undoubtedly. but It says that on the side of that Lego box for a minute, so you must be aged between there. Granted, you would have to be 99 years old to pay for the Mario kit.
00:45:28
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Have you seen that? It's like a tiny, or not tiny, but it's like the Mario Kart. The car from Mario Kart. Hey, wait a minute. Yeah, it's like, oh, look at this. And it's like $166 or something. I know our parents must have, you know, rolled their eyes when they bought us Lego and things back in the day, but Jesus Christ, I mean, we have adult money and even we're going, oh, no. I can't be right.
00:45:54
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I didn't get pennies like that, can't I be right? But yeah, Lego Mario aside there, yeah, it must be. It has to be. Within that age range, just, say him what's that meme again? It's like waving, not randomly, but just waving in a general direction. Yeah, it must be.
00:46:09
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But of course, we talked about Mario Odyssey. Fantastic game. We also talked about what it would be like to live in the Mario world. I said it last week, but it's today. Oh! We talked about the Super Mario Brothers film. That was great. So i I was saying this to you before we started, but I had to pop over to the shops earlier. And usually when I pop over, I'm like, you know what?
00:46:29
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I'll listen to the new episode of Chatsunami. And as I was listening, I have a bit of a Russian roulette with episodes because there's some episodes that, you know, they're serious enough that I can listen back and go, oh, that was a good episode. Oh, I can do it better. Then there's other episodes that have me howling and cracking up. was one of them because if you haven't heard it, definitely go check out at chanson.com. But yeah, it was us talking about being Chris Pratt impersonators. I just absolutely lost it. I was absolutely howling. So funny. So terrible, but
00:47:04
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i've always been curious about this but see when you listen back to certain episodes of chat tsunami have you ever had that where you're just doing your shopping or in the gym or whatever and then you just burst into laughter I can't listen to a lot them in public you'll know this far more than many people on this but I laugh quite loud no shocking confession here and I know you know because you spend most of your time editing episodes of the internet trying to avoid mic crackle and normalize the volume of that stuff so I have to avoid as much as possible That kind thing can face people get a fright in the street and just turn around. If I just burst out laughing, that's blocks of the city hearing me.
00:47:37
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So... It's like a call to action. Yeah, so... The beacons are lit. So, um, it's the cone that Gimli blows when it's, uh...
00:47:48
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but the off of Helmhamer. So, can't listen to a lot of them in public for that reason. So, bit of a confession here, right? My editing process is usually that, you know, I'll throw the audio into Audacity, right? That's fine. Throw it into Audacity, think, right, okay, gonna bring up with compressor compressor and you know usually the compressor brings up to a kind of happy medium of all the audio waves that kind of uplifts it if they're all really low and whatnot I'll add the kind of you remember not the equalizer but there's another thing to boost the base of the voices to make it nice and basic but for years it'll be like it'll be quiet quiet quiet and then just a hori- no sorry a vertical line just going up and it's like oh blah blah blah vertical going again and it's like what have to do is now i go in and i have to clip fix them so have to bring them down so that when i bring the compressor up because see if i put in the compressor it won't raise the highest you know peak of your mic or of your audio wave so i have to lower your laugh helpful
00:48:55
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but You said that so disappointed. Yeah, I should make it louder. Teach him a lesson. I think you could do. Imagine just the headphone warning you'd have to put in every single episode. It's just like really quiet and it's just my laugh. It's like Bart with all the megaphones tied together.
00:49:09
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Too soon. Too soon. Actually, speaking of a very loud laugh and announcement, I've just noticed that we have another patron coming into the Chatsu Cafe, a robotic battle toaster who is bringing 16 of his friends. Welcome, welcome. Welcome in. Grab yourself a snack, ah beverage, with some nostalgia over there. Yeah, probably a bit over there. Yeah, just buy the cakes. We've got muumuu burgers, fine buns, codpan pancakes, and the satsu special, which I still haven't worked out what the satsu special is. That's what's so special about it. Oh, I see, I see. It's satsu surprise. It's just kind of whatever's left in the cupboard. There's always that one thing that's in the cupboard. What was your kind of highlight of doing the Mario month stuff? Because i had a lot of fun and stuff with it, but I'd like to know, see as you've listened to all back, what was kind like your favourite stuff for the Mario month? I honestly thought you were going to say what's my favourite thing in my cupboard. See if you look at your cupboard right, go go down and I'll fill some time. See if you just leave the podcast, go look in your cupboard and just tell me what's in there. Hold on, I'll be back. No, I'm only kidding.
00:50:10
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but This is that's what this podcast has turned into. Read out the contents your cupboard to me right now. This is my shame. I went into my cupboard the other day thinking I'm going to make myself a hot chocolate. I was out of date.
00:50:23
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Did still do it though? How out of date was it? Like what's your cut off here on hot chocolate? For the record, your honour. It wasn't years I'll say that. Maybe a good couple of months. I'm not going to lie.
00:50:34
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I'm not proud of the man I've become Martin. I'm not going to lie. That's a bad news. but Sorry, going back to Mario month, before I incriminate myself further with my hot chocolate escapades. Honestly, all of it is hilarious. And I'm not just saying that. I genuinely think that the more we do this podcast, the better it gets and the funnier it gets. Because I listened to the Mario Odyssey one, the Mario Odyssey episode. What i loved about it was just the fact that we got to wax lyrical about how great a game that was, you know? So that was fun. That was really nice. It was quite sweet. And then we
00:51:09
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And as I was saying, I was absolutely cackling at half the stuff. Genuinely, I was picking up snacks and things in the shops and then all of a sudden we're making Chris Pratt jokes. I was in the bank and it was the bit where we were talking about how Nintendo only have that one image of Chris Pratt. What, you're the greyscale one?
00:51:29
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Yeah, it's like the bug. Yeah, it was so funny. But of course, you know, the bank looking at me going, what you laughing at? And I'm just like, you wouldn't understand. The thing is, well, about the Odyssey episode, see when we stopped recording, I was sitting there, I was like, i forgot to mention like 20 things. There's so much more things I wanted to talk about with Odyssey. Like, I didn't mention any of the mods that have been made for it. Like, an online mode for it now that people have modded in and stuff. And I didn't mention any of that. It's a whole other world being opened up of this game. It's incredible.
00:51:57
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Honestly, there is so much to talk about in that game. There was hundreds of ways to talk about for most episodes. I think the one other than obviously the trivia episode that we talked about the least, I want to say, is probably the film. Yeah. Because it's really hard to talk about. And spoilers for the episode, because you can listen on chatsohnami.com.
00:52:16
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But I do remember that. I genuinely, I remember thinking, oh, we can talk about this, we can talk about that. But then you were just kind of sitting there like, Yeah, it's a very, you put it very succinctly saying, oh it's just that sugar film. You know, ah there's not really much you can say about it. It's no Minions, that's what I would say. No Minion movie.
00:52:35
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What I'm saying is when were doing Minion memes too, the episode. looking forward to doing the animation month in every film we review. I'm just going be like, it's no Minions though, is it? Wallace and Gromit, if only they made a film as good as Minions. Here's a question for you though, say if it was a toss up between Frozen slash Moana versus Minions. Where you going? I don't know if you choose. I'm going to say in terms of cultural impact it has to be Minions.
00:53:01
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What's up? No, don't change the subject. Sorry, check, check please. so ah ah Speaking of feeling old, just very, very briefly, I remember when I was doing the Loving in the Mario World episode, and that's coming out next week, so be sure to check that out. And of course, if you're on our Patreon, patreon.com forward slash Shatsunami, then you can get it now a week early. But the first thing, I don't even know why we talked about it, but it was, as I said before, we've done Loving in the Dragon Ball Z world, Loving in the Robotic Battles also, of course, across the table there he'll tell you we did living in the warhammer 40k universe there was the very infamous living in the pokemon world which kicked it all off but i didn't expect to start talking about the economy but what i was on i was bent over double laughing so hard when it was like right imagine you're living in new donk city and it's bindi and
00:54:04
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chased by a Tyrannosaurus regs. It's like, yeah, that's what you want. You want to know the bin schedule in New Dong City? That's the detail we demand. yeah Was there anything that episode you were coming away going, yeah, I want to know more. I think at one point we started arguing about Mayor Pauline and how she got office.
00:54:21
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And I'm very curious about democratic elections and... New Donk City, Nick. Like we spoke of employment and then why nobody wears other clothes. Everyone's off the clock during the festival. They're all still wearing the same get up. All that stuff. I'm like, there's more going on in New Donk City than they're letting on. And I need to know. and Send me the PI, Martin Callister. Game of New Donk.
00:54:41
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Where is it Dubrovnik? It seems I made the Dubrovnik via New Donk City. I saw him get Dubrovnik on the phone. I've got new show for him. Game of New Donk. I think that would never work.
00:54:53
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ah but Maybe too good. That's true. But speaking of too good, honestly, Mario Month has been absolutely fantastic. And seeing all seriousness, I am genuinely looking forward to this year in particular of content because as I said, we've done Avatar Month. We did, well, we are doing. Mario month. In a couple of months, we'll be doing animation month with, of course, yourself and Andrew. And then a couple of months later, we are going to be doing Bioshock month, which I cannot wait for. We've got some amazing people. Robotic Battletoaster, he's of course going to be involved. So is Dan from Casting Views, Luke from HowdyBeansPodcast, and Alex as well from Game Club Pod. It's going to be great. And then we have, oh, Resident Evil month. I take it you're not a fan of Freddy's? No, I've played a few of them. It's been a while. Resident Evil is one of those ones that I am like, yes, those are games. You know what I've never had like a strong feeling for them either way. I'm more of like, ah you know, I like the grind out RPG games. That's kind of my shtick.
00:55:55
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Because that's the thing, when I was playing them, the only reason I wanted to do a month was because I played the remake of 4? four home would this it Yeah, it was. It was a remake of 4. And I was like, oh, it'd be cool to go back and do them and then I could do a whole month. It was terrifying. I'm not going to lie. But I don't know what was more terrifying than that or... And I don't know if you've had this as well. Hold on, sorry. Can cut you off? think it was more terrifying than anything else. The order you played them in.
00:56:18
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Oh, yeah. I was wondering when this was going to come up. Tell the people what order you played the games in. And don't want to hear a story. I want to hear, tell the order and then we can go into the story. Okay. So the order I...
00:56:31
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I'm not laughing. I'm not laughing. Get confessing. Where's my red band, the lawyer? Where are you? Are you here? Are you under the table? The remake of four started off with that.
00:56:42
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Remake of two. So four, two. Remake of three. Four, two, three. Then seven and eight. Five and six. The reason for that. Say it in one sentence. Four, seven, eight, five, six, three.
00:56:58
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No, 423... Oh, sorry, 4237856. so Code Veronica, somewhere in there well. And, sorry, if you listen across the tables there, there's another patron in the chat to Cafe here yelling that Resident Evil sucks.
00:57:13
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Resident Evil 6 sucks. That's it. Thank you, suspended all. Yeah, thank you. Thank you for that. Yeah, it does indeed suck. I'm not going to lie. The thing i is, I genuinely, and this is spoilers for obviously Resident Evil that Resident Evil 4 is like the Terminator 2 of Resident Evil. Now what i mean by this, and you'll probably know what I'm going to say, But Terminator 2 was one of these films, absolutely iconic, absolutely loved by everybody. Everybody loved it But all the other films after it, they all wanted to be the next Terminator 2. So they ramped up the silliness, they ramped up the action. And judging by my very loose experience of them, I can totally see that. Two and three. 3 seem more horror based I would say but well maybe not the 3 remake but that's a whole other discussion but 5 and 6 I don't know what steroids they were on for those did you play 5? I only played because I think the story was it was terrible that was kind of like as it came out people were kind of down I played there was like an intro demo on the 360 I think because that was one that was like quite heavy on co-op wasn't it and it was like the start of it was all in daylight so yeah played that intro demo and it was okay again I've never been a big fan of the franchise and the game kind of got bad reviews so was like okay I'm not too you know I'm not chasing it up I nearly finished it I'm playing it through with someone and I genuinely think that if I didn't play it with anybody I would have heated up i mean i hated I hated 6 absolutely I really did not like 6 I thought it had interesting ideas, but then as soon as you know Ada Wong, one of the super spy women femme fatale, etc. Insert your own adjective here. She hatched out of a cocoon or something, and I was like, hmm. I don't know where you're going with this, guys.
00:58:55
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There's another one where one of the characters takes a bioweapon thing to regrow his arm, and he's got a big electric laser arm kind of thing. And he's like, I can't go with you to the surface. I'm a monster. You don't know what that's rubbish. And you're like, huh. You guys have lost the plot, haven't you? And it's a long game. Our mutual friend Adam, of course, actually said that. Oh, you're gonna... beyond this game for ages. And then, yeah, it's just so long. And I just want point out that we've got two more people from Mysterious Mr V who has come through with two of his friends. Thank you very much. Please take a seat. Have your coffee or your tea or your hot chocolate that's out of date. Ah, it's getting decapped. I'm sorry. Oh, I love Decaf. Anyway. Yeah, the only... Right, can I justify myself to say why I played Resident Evil? I'd love to hear you justify yourself. Right, because I tried to justify myself before. You're only going incriminate yourself further, but Try your best. Mr. Setsu. Sweet, sweet.
00:59:56
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but Right, the reason was because 4 was the first game. It wasn't. 4 was the fourth game. No!
01:00:06
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I played it because somebody bought me it. was like, okay, I'm going to finally play a Resident Evil game. Played the full remake. Love it. think it's one of the best games ever. And then after I played it, I thought, you know what? I should go back to the relative beginning. I should probably play the first remake. I did play it. I got my butt kicked. I don't want to talk about it.
01:00:27
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i don't want to talk about it i played the second one actually i forgot to tell you that i really put off genuinely playing the second game because of mr x oh yeah the big trench coat guy genuinely he gave me the fear because my only memory of mr x was being in a group call with our mutual friend adam and remember we're a group call and we're all playing different games and he was playing resident evil 2 the remake sporadically i'd be playing sonic or something like yeah i gotta go fast and then i'd hear this blood curdling scream and i'm like adam you okay and he's like yeah i just nearly got caught by mr x i'm like who the hell is mr i was like that kind of legend that fear so i put it off for the longest time and even when i started playing it like oh mr x oh he's not that bad i got to the bit before mr x and i was like
01:01:19
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I need to build myself up. I really need to build myself up. And as I go on to talk about this, Comagamer65 has brought more friends. So thank you very much. Make yourself welcome. It's decaf hours now. Welcome. Yeah, rock and roll. So yeah, I played that eventually. You know, completed that. I thought this is a really great game, except for the boss fight at the end. I hated that. But anyway, that's another thing. Played the third one. The third one just feels more like a DLC. to the 2D remake. I thought that was okay. But the thing was, I was about to go on to 5 and 6, right, Your Honour? I was about to go on 5 and 6. Then one of my friends turned around and he was like, you know what? I will play this game with you. I'll play 5 with you. And like, oh, okay. So thought, okay, while I wait for him, I'll go to 7 and 8 because I think there's no point, you know, starting 6th.
01:02:07
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So I started 7. Again, it took me ages. a january It genuinely took me absolute ages to play 7 because it's frightening and I'm a big wuss. I actually had to play it with a walkthrough at times because it was that scary. It's like, okay, so I know the big baldy man who comes out of this wall here. I'm like, oh, I don't like it. Yelling, welcome to the family, sir. And I'm like, oh no, I don't want to visit Louisiana. Anyway, that's the takeaway I got from it. It's like, I really don't want to go to Louisiana. It's like, oh, why? you not been to Louisiana? i was going to say, I've actually been, yeah.
01:02:41
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I'm like, don't go to Louisiana. I'm molding people. It was lovely. had a great time. Very different experience from what you had by the sounds of it. Yeah, I was just like, when you said that, was like, I'm pretty sure I've been to Louisiana. I had a great time. Yeah, no, it's not nothing like, if there isn't evil anything like my trip to Louisiana, it'll be fantastic and like not scary at all. All we have to do is go to West Virginia and then we'll end up in Silent Hill. Aye. Which, fun fact, yeah. The only reason I know that is because I watched the
Resident Evil and Gaming Themes Exploration
01:03:08
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film. Would you believe actually watched the Silent Hill film for a review that never got made. Aww. Yeah, it was one of my friends was like, oh, let's review the Silent Hill film. I'm like, yeah, heck yeah, can't wait. I watched it, had the notes. And then he was like, oh, actually, i can't do it anymore. And then he disappeared. I'm like, aw. It was a sad time. So i played Seven and the sequel to Seven, of course, is Eight. Of course. Yeah, I couldn't leave 7 lonely, so I had to play 8, which was Resident Evil Village, or Lady Vampire chases you through a, about to say a hotel, like Hotel Transylvania.
01:03:42
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Serious talk, I know you haven't played many of them, but have you played Village or seen what Village is like? I've played the sequence with her in it at a friend's, but apart from that, I've not played much of it. It is a very weird game, have to say. I can imagine.
01:03:54
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And I'm not just saying that as, oh, it's a weird, you know, Resident Evil game. No, no, it's lots of fairy tale stuff. You've got werewolves, you've got zombies, you've got fishermen. I can't if it was me and you actually sat and watched one of the directs that it got announced on and people genuinely didn't know what game it was because it was like werewolves and vampires and it very much looked like an old folklore game and it wasn't until the end of it they had Benfield pop up and they were like oh by the way it's Resident Evil and it was kind of left to field wasn't it it was like a bit of a people who didn't think it was going to be a Resident Evil game I genuinely I don't know what they were thinking with it And again, that's not a bad thing. I like the ending, and this sounds terrible to say. liked when it ended, but I liked the ending. I thought the ending was very, you know, poignant and whatever. But when I was playing it, it just, it felt completely different from 7, because 7's like this... horror game you know it's a bit like going from maybe not as extreme but it's a bit like going from outlast to doom but it's like going from the louisiana shack in the middle of the bayou oh we're going to this see people keep saying oh it's romania things but i genuinely think it's nondescript eastern european country i could totally be wrong in that and i could totally plant on it but
01:05:05
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It's like, yeah, yeah, it's a nondescript Eastern European country. And the reason I say that is because I was really confused when everyone was speaking in an American accent. And again, I know why it's easier just to be like, oh, just get anybody in, you know, just voice this extra character. But it just honestly has to be like, why don't say it in America anymore? Or the UK or something. Fun fact though, see that whole Lady Dimitrescu running away from her. A, and I feel terrible for saying this, but she's not as scary as Mr. X. I think both of them could body me. Just absolutely throw me through a table. But on the other hand, I'll give you a laugh, I was saying that to my partner the other day, saying, oh, was playing this Resident Evil game and just describing it. And she was saying, oh, we've got something similar. She's called the Eight Foot Lady.
01:05:56
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That's so good. Yeah, and then she showed me a picture and I'm like, yeah, that's the same woman. You're Lady Dimitri-esque eight-foot woman. I mean, it's it's all, yeah. No point giving fake names to things. I'm down to brass tacks here. Just call her.
01:06:12
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Was she named that before she was eight foot or was it for you a day? You're going to be Edford one day. i don't know how old. You're going to be Edford. That's a self-fulfilling prophecy if I have a married one.
01:06:24
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Yeah, maybe. I'm gonna be honest. You have to ask her after this, because like, by the way, 8ft Lady, was she always called that? What's the deal? What i love about that game, though, is just see the fact that when you're watching it, or rather playing it, sorry, I'm bad at video games, when you're playing it, and it's like, at the very end, they try to justify why they act the way they are. So like, the reason she's a vampire, it's because she needs blood to survive, oh. Oh, why are they werewolves? Oh, because they're feral. You're like, no.
01:06:57
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That's the thing I kept asking people and especially fans of Resident Evil. I kept saying, why are there werewolves? Blah, blah, blah. And they're like, oh, it's a bioweapon. And
Dinosaurs and Jurassic World Critique
01:07:06
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it's like, are they just moving the goalposts for what a bioweapon is? When do zombies not become cool anymore? Martin, are zombies not cool anymore? No, they haven't been for a long time.
01:07:16
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it's What are you going to tell me? I know, sorry, man. This reminds me of, do you see Jurassic World when that came out? No good friend, Chris Pratt. That whole film is about how uncool dinosaurs are, which is a rad concept for a film, considering dinosaurs are the coolest things ever. But you mean like the... Oh, what you call that? The kids at the beginning, where they're like, Oh my god, I have to go to a dinosaur bar. I don't know why they're in that cage, but...
01:07:39
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But like, when they introduces it, what was called again? It's the Indomerus Rex. And the whole joke is like, oh, it's way cooler than any other dinosaur. It's got all the bits from the dinosaurs that are lame to make one cool dinosaur. And it's like, the T-Rex is rad. But that's the whole point in the film is like, oh, it has to be bigger than Jurassic Park.
01:07:54
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And I feel like sometimes a lot of these things get kind of hung up on that stuff. Like, oh, zombies aren't cool anymore, but we kind of have to stick to the plot of what we've done with the zombies. So going to make super duper zombies. And like you know it just feels a bit like, yeah it feels like a lot things. Jurassic Park all of a sudden, Jurassic World, sorry all of a sudden in my head is that the worst offender of it because they were want you to know that dinosaurs weren't cool anymore.
01:08:14
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so true though, because i do remember that where they're like, oh my god, i I don't want to go. Don't want to go. not the dinosaurs. Oh my god, it's so lame. It's eating my brother. oh my god. I'm like, what is wrong with you? Also, you remember the guy who was like wearing the merch?
01:08:32
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Yes. like Jurassic Park. That's the whole thing. Yeah, that was... Ghoulish. Yeah. That's like true crime people were... You know, like, the insert any serial killer here on their chest and everything. It's like, you have problems. I know, obviously, they're like, oh, he's a super fan. Get thats guy this guy out. He shouldn't work here. This guy, I bet you any money this guy has his own podcast. And he's like, hey, what's up? Today we're going to be talking about the Endomida tricks.
01:09:00
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Very good, very good. The whole thing's just very strange. i' like you to go back and watch that. Maybe that's a review we should do one point, is go back and try to understand Jurassic World. I just, I cannot stand the entire trilogy. I mean, what was the last one called? Jurassic? didn't see that one. Oh, there was Jurassic World, Jurassic Kingdom, and then Jurassic, my butt hurts, you know, I like, Jurassic, I've been sitting here for so long. Jurassic pain in the butt. Jurassic pain in my...
01:09:24
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but Oh, i can't even remember. But anyway, it's Dominion Domination. I don't know. Anyway, the one with the locusts. What annoyed me was there was a character in Jurassic World who was like, Oh, I love these Velociraptors. We've got to put them in the military.
01:09:39
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I'm sorry? What? You don't know robots can do everything they can do, you know, and they're easily controlled as opposed to, well, Velociraptors. You've got to put the Velociraptors in the military, man. That's how it works. But what hated was the fact they tripled down. They didn't double down. They tripled. the second one, it's like, oh, they've got the dinosaur meat market where they're like, oh, let's sell these dinosaurs to the highest bids. It's like, what you going to do with a dinosaur? Imagine owning a dinosaur, though. I genuinely, i have a bad enough time my I have any pigeons if I go in. That's all I'm saying.
01:10:13
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I'll teach those kids come and tiggle. Oh no, we kicked a ball into Mr. McAllister's garden. He's got the velociraptor. The stegosaurus just burst the ball. That actually happened completely off topic, but not with a dinosaur, of course. No, no, no, no. You're lying. but No, no, no, no. I grew up like two streets away from you.
01:10:37
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I sure don't want to have heard of this. ah I'm channeling my inner Kingadera. I saw a real live dinosaur.
Reviewing Bad Movies
01:10:43
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if I love that quote. It was very common. I think they still have them. But you know how in Shreeks they always had the football pitches or kind of small football pitches that were like all caged in. I remember one time I was playing with a couple of friends. You weren't there because obviously you were dinosaur wrangling at that time. and i remember that were these kids playing math their farm like the whatno and the dad or someone was one these youre the really light bus you get and they character over the fence and then oh you hear it was the snarwin there a dog
01:11:12
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and then two seconds later the ball get thrown over and then it went bounce spunceed so it's like Oh, that dog was not happy. That dog was not happy. But, sorry, just quickly touching on the trilogy. The fact that they'd tripled down and then they were like, oh yeah, dinosaurs in the military is the way to go.
01:11:31
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its like It's like, was there genuinely, do you think there was like a script writer who didn't get the chance to make, I don't know, Dino Rambo? Or, yeah, genuinely, I don't know Dino Rambo, Dino Commando. What was it, Theodore Rex?
01:11:45
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Theodore Rex, there's a film. Oh, there's a film we need to review, but there must have been something where they had that itch and then they were like, we need dinosaurs in the military. And then they somehow made Malta in the third one. They had Malta in it, but they had it not Malta, if that makes sense. It looked like it, don't get me wrong, is quite really warm there and everything, so they've got all the sandstone buildings, but they made it look like an arid wasteland.
01:12:09
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It's like, all they had was one airport and a couple of square buildings. It's like, Malta's a nice place. Go visit it. I've been to Malta. Yeah, it's like, it's got cathedrals, it's got a lovely, you know, with water in the middle. It's like, go see it. Or you can also get the ferry to Sicily, but that's another thing. Also, this stream isn't sponsored by Visit Malta. It's just between that and the fact they had giant locusts, and that was the big draw that they thought people were going to watch this and go, you're wanting my dinosaur full of bugs.
01:12:38
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LAUGHTER I would genuinely, I would rather watch the Starship Troopers again. I think I'd say Theodore Rex. Well, that's next week's Shatsu Gaffey episode. Oh, can't I can't watch it again. What, Theodore Rex? I remember it being awful. Was it not one of those ones that we watched and it was like truly terrible but not like in a funny way? Is this the one with Whoopi Goldberg? Yeah, yeah. I didn't I don't think that bad. Do you remember Tammy and the T-Rex? I get those two mixed up, genuinely. So, Tammy and the T-Rex was the one with the boyfriend, it was like a younger girl and a boyfriend, can't remember if he got hit by a car if he was like an isekai set up whatever, he gets stuck inside the body of a T-Rex and he falls in love with her and then I think it was an old, outside the actual filmmaking of the film, it was like an animatronic model they had, so they had to keep hiding the platform it was on in every scene. so like every scene with the stynos in it'd be more covered up, it was dead funny.
01:13:25
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure of that was that was that. And then Theodore Rex was kind of like a cookie kind of like detective film, I want to say. There's a guy in like a mascot outfit being a T-Rex. Yeah, it was like, do you remember the show? Was it Dinosaurs? You're the dinosaur family one. Oh, yeah.
01:13:41
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I just remember it having a really depressing ending. And that was it. So them just looking up and the asteroid hitting, and it's like, Jesus Christ, that was the 80s or the 90s. I was like, oh I genuinely, I don't remember much of it, do you know what film I actually see all over the place? Jim Carter. Yeah, that's it. Jim Carter. That is everywhere. Great film. Yeah, other podcasters are like, I want to review a bad film. Oh, I'm going to do Jim Carter. Oh. I'm like, why do you haunt me so much?
01:14:06
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Why'd you keep popping up? I don't remember that film being... Really rushed. The whole joke was that he was a powerhouse gymnast and that was like the most contrived bits of it but don't remember the film being that terrible. It's probably quite a good watch actually. It's up there with one I'd like to watch again. Did it not have a really rushed ending though? Yes. Where it was like I could totally be wrong on this but was it not he defeats whoever and they've all got him up and then it's like there was a bill for nuclear disarmament and then it was like oh we passed that and it was like who was that?
01:14:35
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um but i kind of Was it Jim and Catter? There was one that we watched as well and there's a bit where a guy runs off on a horse and he knocks an extra over. Do you remember this? oh Oh! And sure it might have been Jim Catter but they knock an extra over and they obviously didn't have the budget to retake the scene so in the film it's just extra gets knocked over. It's mad. It's like such a huge fall the person takes. That's just real. Just gets pancaked. Yeah. Yeah. Because obviously the one that we never talk about is ironically enough Turkish Star Wars which is... Not fan. No, no.
01:15:04
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I can't even get any joy out of it, you know, that way. I mean I'm just, I sit there very sad. Genuinely, I got no happiness from that film. I don't think it helped that the subtitles that was on the edition that you had was maybe slightly in the sink, yeah. Yeah.
01:15:20
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Even then, it was only like three bits of dialogue in the whole film and there were big, long explanations. There wasn't actually much talking in between times. It was just long sequences of just action with the Indiana Jones theme tune over it. And it feels like it should be good. does I think that was, to me, the worst part about it is it felt like it should have been good. but I was excited to watch it and it just let me down. It was no Samurai Cop. I mean, Samurai Cop, that was a great one. Space Trucker Bruce, that was a good one as well.
01:15:45
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space trucker bruce is unfairly lumped in this is my confession so we did these bad movie weeks i would pick all the films and i picked space trucker bruce because it was on amazon for like a pound and i'd kind of heard about it it was like made from like a tiny budget over so many years and just in someone's garden and was like this sounds like it's gonna be terrible and you know what it was by far the best film we saw to the stage where i was like it was an actual phenomenal film and i'm sad that we watched it as part of that because it was too good for the concept it wasn't a bad movie it was a incredible movie like It was truly the best movie we watched as part of that. if Turkish Star Wars didn't get on the list because it wasn't a film, this didn't get on the list because it wasn't a bad film. Do you remember what was it called? Gordon the Ninja?
01:16:24
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Or something? Yes. There's this really, I genuinely can't remember the name of it. There is a weird, weird film. It reminds me a bit of Kung Pao. You know the one where it's like the guy, he imposes himself.
Shrek and Musical Theater Experiences
01:16:38
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Some bits actually quite funny, but he imposes himself on this old Chinese period kind of film and he's pretending you know to be like a Kung Fu master and you know it's just it's a parody of it but it's quite well done but some of it's well done but that's a subject for another day but you've got this one Gordon the Ninja where they got the rights for a completely different film and you remember it was like a slice of life for half the film yeah I think it's not even like it was like a Power Rangers kind of set up but it was it was things that led into it it was a totally different genre Yeah, it was like half of it, they cut it together. I'm laughing because half of it literally is not the same film. Half of it is this guy who is trying to, i don't know, he's trying to settle into this city or something. And then the other half is just people in ninja costumes messing about.
01:17:30
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They're just trying to bunch each other and I'm like, what in the Power Rangers is going on here? And at the very end, they try to link the two. and It reminds me of the Digimon film. You that way where they had Willis... That's the kind of thread put it together, yeah. Those guys could never be Willis. No, they couldn't. No. Nobody in Colorado could be like Willis. I'm looking at you, Colorado.
01:17:50
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but but But yeah, it was like at the very end they had the two and he's like, Oh, Gordon, I cannot defeat the ninja because I am clearly not your fault. But here is a scroll to defeat the evil ninja.
01:18:04
Speaker
going to be honest, and this is my confession of the night, I don't like ninjas, honestly. I i don't think I've really... I've never found them cool, I'm going to be honest. The fanbase of Shadows and the Chatsunami. Unity's just like, well, I never, and just throw a smoke bomb down.
01:18:23
Speaker
Stoam out the cafe, there's just smoke everywhere. Yeah, it's getting very smoky in here. I mean, speaking of that, there was a lot of martial art films in that bad movie era. There was that one where, remember the woman gets possessed by a sword or something? Oh yeah. What was that one again? The only reason I remember that is because there was a scene where they had to chain her up because she's like possessed and she's killing people and she yells, And the only reason we were howling so much was because had watched The Abridged for Yu-Gi-Oh! And there's a particular scene in the actual original dub where Yu-Gi gets a card that he can attack people if he gets a monster card. So he's going, They're all a monster card! And he keeps doing it over and over again. And then his friend is like, Yugi Yamate! And he goes, Hanase! And he just yells at it. It is so damn good. But yeah, as soon as we heard Hanase, we were making like the soy sauce.
01:19:17
Speaker
wait not But remember everybody's face at that point, they were like, what are you talking about? He's so excited. Yeah, there was that one, there was just the kind of run of the mill. I think with the the martial art films, it's because usually what happens in all these bad movies is it's one person that's an investor and they invest in the film and you get Fatal Deviation Island's only martial art film.
01:19:37
Speaker
Stuff like that where it's one person budgets it and then they want to be in the film and therefore a martial arts film is usually the best thing to go for because you don't need a plot. The plot is person saves town. You know what I mean? You just need to to get sequences together. So that's of why a lot of times it's those. Fatal Deviation was a phenomenal film but martial arts very overrepresented in it. I think there's a lot of it and again as someone who's in the wrong side of 30 I'm one to talk here but there's a lot of mental life crisis that's going You've got your Steven Seagal's and your Jean-Claude Van Damme's and all the good Jean-Claude Van Damme ones. You've got so many where they're just like, oh, yay, we're going to kick ass. There was a weird one. I don't know if you remember this one, but it was like a guy. Was he trying to find his dad or something? don't know. What was that? I can't remember. It was like really horribly dubbed and he's like, I'm going to find my dad or something like that. And then in the next scene he gets beaten up with. because it's like a trap. And I'm sure at the end they end up in like a, I don't know, a community centre or a leisure centre or something like that.
01:20:39
Speaker
I genuinely can't remember. I'm like, what happened in that film? I just remember the end and I think someone blew up. I'm like, That's also really common in these films is they get like one propped on me and they just blow up.
01:20:51
Speaker
Because I mean, we watched Street Fighter and I'm going to be honest, that was probably high up on that one. Yeah, that was one of the better ones. Like that's the thing, like a lot of the ones that like famously bad because we watched obviously Mario movie, we watched Street Fighter, we watched Mortal Kombat. lot of these ones people think they're bad and then you watch them and it's like, these are just bad within the context of the movie or whatever or whatever. or the source material. Some of these films, are the other ones that we watched were truly tragic, not even fun, just truly a terrible, terrible time for everyone.
01:21:17
Speaker
I still have a whole bunch of DVDs and Blu-rays downstairs from when we did those nights, so i maybe I'll dig them out and I'll send you some. Please don't. No, I'm going to force you to. Next time you're around to record an episode or something. Yeah, popping in Jim Carp. Minions too.
01:21:31
Speaker
That's not a bad film, how dare you? Do you know, I don't think I've seen many, I've seen bits of it, actually. No, I'll tell a lie, I've seen bits of it. It'll change your life forever. you know, I saw the first one in cinemas for some reason.
01:21:43
Speaker
And I saw it again recently because it popped up on Netflix and I was like, oh, for old time's sake, why not? Kevin, you're smooth talker. Ah, Kevin. Yeah, it's alright. Again, you know, I don't know what to say about it, it's okay.
01:21:56
Speaker
but It's like... Honestly, I'm one of those people that genuinely, non-ironically thinks that Despicable Me is a good film. I genuinely think the first Despicable Me is, you know, the sequels take him or leave him, but the first one genuinely is a good film. But it's a bit like Shrek, isn't it? In the sense that because it's become such a meme, that people don't really, i'm not going to say treat it with respect, because come on, it's despicable. Well, me, but yeah, it's like they don't really, you know, yeah you treat it as a joke.
01:22:24
Speaker
This is what i was kind of laughing because obviously there's a new Shrek coming out soon and people are like, oh, you know, it looks so different. like, did you see the third one though? It can't be any worse than that. The third one's awful. but I'm going to be honest, see if we somehow have a Shrek month.
01:22:40
Speaker
I am so tempted. Here we go. Episode 1, Shrek. Episode 2, Shrek 2. Episode 3, Shrek 3 and 4. And then episode 4, we go to London. We go to the Shrek exhibit. And we do that. Yeah, I actually saw that. I don't know if it's still there, is it? I have no idea. I just always wanted someone else to go instead of me. Oh, instead of you? I don't want to go.
01:22:59
Speaker
So you're not coming then? i' I'll come with you then I'll leave you at last second at the door and it'll be a funny bit. I'm oh, I'm right behind you, ha, and then push and then I won't. I think of all people, it was one of the other podcasters I was talking to on the channel Myth Monsters and we talked about this exact same thing. We were like, oh, wouldn't it be funny to go to the Shrek exhibit? And the host was like, oh, I've been. And I'm like, what?
01:23:23
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but that's like a bigger part When my partner and I went down, oh, this was a good couple of years ago, we got off at the London Eye, right? You know, beautiful, scenic, you know, you've got the London Eye, you've got all the sights of London, and then you look across the water, and it's just Shrek! That's not so funny, it's a V Prime location in London. That could be anything else. and It's Shrek, and that's just so funny to me. I mean, is the musical still running?
01:23:49
Speaker
Oh, I've no idea. I've got no idea. Yeah, why not? If there's any Shrek musical enthusiasts. reach out to us. Yeah, we would love to hear off from you. But yeah, I genuinely don't know. I don't know if i'd like to see it because, and it's something that I meant to bring up earlier when we were talking about musicals and like not to sing along to them.
01:24:08
Speaker
Have you ever been to a musical where it's like, you know that it's going to be that musical? That people are going to sing along, are going to stamp their feet. And it's not even like ah oh, let's participate. It's like, you know, Mamma Mia or We Will Rock You. It's just filled with a bunch of drunk pen parties. You're that's isn't going to end well. Yeah, have you ever been to any of them? I can't say I have. I wouldn't recommend it. It's about like, you know, when you go to a restaurant and things and you get rowdy patrons and things, you're like, oh God, you know, thank God we're going to the theatre. We're going to civilise, whatever. And then you get in and they're there and you're like, oh God. It was the same when I went to see Avatar in the cinema and there was a group of kids in front just causing mischief and their mum was yelling at them saying, if you don't behave, I'm going to send you back on the bus now.
01:24:59
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and Anyway, they sat three rows behind us. ah Fun times. Fun times. Unfortunately, and that was one of the months that we got recommended, I think.
01:25:09
Speaker
Or not recommended, but we asked people to vote on musical month. That would probably be a good one. But again, I don't think the chat suit budget is that big where I'm like, do you want to go to the theatre to see it? The 64 actual theatre reviews, they're back on expenses. that You've got the business card.
01:25:26
Speaker
Oh, exactly. I've got the Red Panda card, which... Hold on, let me check. No.
Closing Remarks
01:25:32
Speaker
Have I got it here? no, no. That's not going on on me. I'll just write a very cute, say, like, I.O.U. with a smiley face and the O. I'm sorry. I didn't mean it. I'm sorry we didn't pay. I'm sorry I'm in debt.
01:25:46
Speaker
Please let us in for free. I was like, no, no, you get out of here. Speaking of free, speaking of free, you're all free to go. Oh, yeah. Honestly, Martin, thank you for joining me though. I know it's been absolute blast. Honestly, we could probably go for another several hours. Yeah, next time we'll start like two hours earlier. Yeah, apologies.
01:26:08
Speaker
Yeah, before we wrap up, where can these lovely pandaluris, and I'm pointing at Martin, you know, just to show you, where can they find your content? can find me across all the social media places, Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, usually at Martin McAllister. you can't find me, just search the name Martin McAllister and I will appear if you want to follow along and see all the weird and wonderful things I got up to in the world of professional wrestling. No, thank you so much. Honestly, this has been an absolute blast and it has been a long time in the making. You kept saying to me, when are you doing Chatsu Cafe? And I'm like, I'm working on it. Leave alone. But but yeah, if you would like to check out more of our content, it especially Mario. month, then you can check us out at our website, chattsanami.com, as well as all good podcast apps. I also want to thank our amazing Pandalorian patrons. I'm just going to point to the board there, right beside Martin. but We have Robotic Battletoaster, we've got Sonya, we've got Ghostie, and we have Cryptid1991. Thank you all so, so much for supporting the show. Honestly, you make things like this possible, so thank you so much. But if you would indeed, I'm going to stop pointing at you because it's rude, if you would like early access to episodes, exclusive content, and commentary tracks as well, if you would like to hear more of our rambles, then you can check us out our Patreon page, patreon.com forward slash chat tsunami. This podcast is also a member of the PodPath Collective, so feel free to take a leaflet and also check them out at PodPathCollect over on twitter slash x but until next time thank you all so so much for joining us in this debut i hope you've had a good time i hope your coffee isn't cold now it probably will be but hey honestly thank you all so much but as always stay safe stay awesome and most importantly martin if you want to finish it off stay hydrated yeah i was good to think of a bit didn't have one