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Speaker: Currently, the universal year that is going on is number seven, which is again inward focus and spiritual awakening number.
Speaker: Like seven is a very spiritual number, right?
Speaker: So all of us, number seven is the universal year right now.
Speaker: And they need somewhere to begin to begin their journey to discover their dharma, their soul purpose.
Speaker: And that's when spiritual tools come in handy.
Speaker: So they can help you in your healing process.
Speaker: Once a reflector, always a reflector because you can't change that chart.
Speaker: So if you do believe in rebirths, you're always going to be reflector with different purposes.
Speaker: But you'll always have that openness to the world.
Speaker: You carry that energy all around.
Speaker: Astrology has also been very, very in the mainstream media for the past few years because before that, a lot of people didn't believe in it, didn't think that it was scientifically true or had scientific evidence backing it up.
Speaker: Hi everyone, welcome back to Spirit Says.
Speaker: We hope that you're enjoying the episode so far.
Speaker: The last one that we did was on healing and traumas.
Speaker: And if you haven't watched that, we recommend that you do that first and then come back to this one.
Speaker: Because today we are going a little deeper into the tools that are going to be helpful in your healing journey.
Speaker: So there's one sphere that covers nervous system regulation, emotional intelligence and mastery, somatic practices and all of that, which we have kind of touched in the first episode, in the previous episode.
Speaker: And then there's another area of energy work that comes into the picture, which is all about Reiki and past life regression and emotional code healing, which is again something that I'm not a practitioner about.
Speaker: So I have my colleagues, I have my healers around.
Speaker: And if somebody comes up to me and I coach them about, I coach them of spiritual life coaching, and then they get curious of such tools, I refer them out to the practitioners.
Speaker: Because certifications, I really feel like, you know, everybody can get the certifications, but it's a different feeling when somebody is actually a practitioner, right?
Speaker: And today we are going to be touching the sphere of astrology, numerology, tarot, as well as human design.
Speaker: So I invite Mania in because she's an astrology girl.
Speaker: Yes, I love astrology.
Speaker: I am not sure how this interest started, but yeah, it was there and then I had to do a deep dive, obviously.
Speaker: So let me first begin with what spiritual tools are and what drives people to get into the spiritual tools.
Speaker: So basically, I think the main driver for people to set foot into spirituality or spiritual tools is that they feel lost and they feel helpless in their lives or confused about the next stages or their purpose in life or think that what once they want it is no longer what they want and they need somewhere to begin their journey to discover their dharma, their sole purpose.
Speaker: And that's when spiritual tools come in handy.
Speaker: So they can help you in your healing process.
Speaker: So obviously, there are spiritual tools and tools can be used in a good way and a bad way.
Speaker: So it's not uncommon for people to use them for the wrong reasons.
Speaker: So sometimes these tools are particularly used for monetary gains.
Speaker: And sometimes people use them as excuses to be stuck in the past or be stuck in the old patterns and behavior like, oh, I'm a Gemini, so I will behave like this.
Speaker: No, you're just unevolved.
Speaker: So yeah, so these tools are actually used for self-improvement and self-awareness.
Speaker: And let us today talk you guys through the spiritual tools that we both have used and have helped us and address some of the misconceptions that are floating around regarding these tools.
Speaker: Obviously, the first and foremost is that I would suggest to use these tools as a blueprint instead of straightaway going and predicting your future.
Speaker: So a lot of people, they use tarot cards or astrology to ask tarot readers, astrologers, what is going to happen to them in the future.
Speaker: I think that's another that's coming from a place of
Speaker: fear because people want to have certain control over the future, want to know if certain things will happen.
Speaker: But sometimes some things come in the readings that they don't agree with.
Speaker: It can be a negative reading or it can trigger certain emotions in that person.
Speaker: And then either they get fearful of the future, get anxious about the future or even
Speaker: become verbally abusive with the tarot card readers or astrologers and a lot of them have been vocal about this aspect as well where if there is a positive outcome as well and if there is a positive outcome of the reading but then it doesn't manifest in the person's life because they didn't take that aligned actions as we have already focused how important karma is
Speaker: We have already talked about that.
Speaker: And so they didn't put in the effort because they thought this reading has had a certain outcome.
Speaker: So now my life is all set.
Speaker: But that's not true because your future is not set in stone.
Speaker: And anything that needs to be manifest has to be done while taking action.
Speaker: so this is these are some things that you should keep in mind so even i when i meet somebody i usually do um these sessions like it's not open to everyone right now but um it's only for friends or some community that i am in the spiritual community so i hold a certain session so i use tarot cards even sometimes not to um
Speaker: or astrology I ask for the birth timings and the birth charts to understand where this person is coming from to understand the trauma or just the situation in general not to predict their future so to I just ask questions because sometimes what happens is the person is not aware they are not reflecting although I ask them to reflect and journal but sometimes they don't do that or don't go deep inside so the cards just provide me some insight of what is happening
Speaker: in their lives right now.
Speaker: And also, even some tarot card readers also suggest that because the tarot card is a deck of around 78 cards, so 22 cards out of there are major arcana cards and the rest are minor arcana cards.
Speaker: So major arcana cards also represent spiritual journey, your spiritual journey or the steps a person goes through in a spiritual journey.
Speaker: So it starts with a card called the Fool, which is the card that represents a person who's naive but has endless potential, doesn't know about the consequences of his actions because he's just walking in directionless.
Speaker: So he's about to fall off the cliff.
Speaker: So that's the card that's painted on the card.
Speaker: So it represents the naivety that people have before they go through a spiritual awakening.
Speaker: And the last card is the world card, which is also a circle in the traditional tarot and represents consciousness and oneness with the universe and the feeling of accepting the truth, basically.
Speaker: So I don't really know too much about origin of tarot, but it was originated sometime around 1300s when a tarot deck was painted by someone for a king.
Speaker: And then it started evolving and used for fortune telling in Europe.
Speaker: So that's a little about tarot.
Speaker: So Antiksha, do you have any stories or any tarot readers that you would like to tell people about or recommend to people?
Speaker: Tarot is such, I would say, an uncharted territory for me.
Speaker: But at the same time, I use it for like fun.
Speaker: I think I found a tarot reader.
Speaker: He's Chris Cossini, middle child on Instagram, four or five years back.
Speaker: And he just puts up like monthly readings for our sun, moon and risings.
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: So I found him randomly and then I've found so many other people putting up his stories and I've found his readings to be really accurate.
Speaker: And at the same time, he's like a really cool person.
Speaker: So I kind of like watch him sometimes for fun.
Speaker: But I highly recommend him and I've recommended him to my friends as well.
Speaker: And he's been really good.
Speaker: At the same time, I firmly agree with you where you said like people get angry when predictions don't happen because they forget the power of action and they forget that work needs to be put in irrespective of whatever their predictions and destiny, like whatever their predestined predictions are.
Speaker: I totally agree with that.
Speaker: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker: And that's why, you know, a lot of, because a lot of tarot readers don't want to get cancelled.
Speaker: So they keep putting on readings like past lover, ex-lover.
Speaker: So like, and people, people get stuck in the past, hope in the hope that, okay, this will happen, or you will get this job, or something else they sort will happen.
Speaker: So a lot of these times, I
Speaker: Like they try to fit in the readers and it's just harmful for the audience.
Speaker: And I know a lot of readers who are also very accurate and outspoken if like this reading can trigger you.
Speaker: So please either calm yourself or don't take a reading.
Speaker: because they genuinely care about their audience.
Speaker: It's not that I'm saying that others don't, but it's just that they still have the way to go to set boundaries and put out the message that actually the people need to hear.
Speaker: So that's something about tarot.
Speaker: And now let's...
Speaker: move to astrology then so astrology has also been very very in the mainstream media for the past few years because before that a lot of people didn't believe in it didn't think that it was scientifically true or had scientific evidence backed up
Speaker: backing it up.
Speaker: So to those skeptics, I would like to say some people also asked me once that why do you and then Triksha post about the moon.
Speaker: So to them, I said that, okay, think about it this way.
Speaker: During full moon, we have high tides, right?
Speaker: Because there is a relationship between moon and water.
Speaker: So our body is also made up of water, isn't it?
Speaker: You are chemistry major, you know that, right?
Speaker: So, and then she was like, yeah, so it affects us in some way or the other, isn't it?
Speaker: And she was like, yeah, if you say it like that, it totally makes sense.
Speaker: So obviously it does have scientific reasoning behind it, but due to the capitalization of the concept, a lot of things, a lot of concepts have been taken away from astrology.
Speaker: So first of all, it was like,
Speaker: only sun signs are used.
Speaker: So whenever somebody looks at the chart, not even chart, horoscope, they go for the sun sign.
Speaker: They go for the sun sign.
Speaker: That's also based on tropical astrology.
Speaker: Sometimes people check the sun sign in tropical astrology.
Speaker: Just a second.
Speaker: Tropical is Western, right?
Speaker: Yes, yes.
Speaker: Tropical is Western astrology.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Inside is Vedic.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: I'll come to it.
Speaker: So, so, so, sunshine is just one aspect of that.
Speaker: So what happened was during industrial revolution to sell more newspapers, there was this
Speaker: thing done by the media that they're gonna put in horoscope so that people get more invested in it and you know they sell more newspapers so that's where Sunsign horoscope came into play because in reality astrology is much more nuanced it has like nine planets in Vedic astrology and 12 houses
Speaker: and you see if you want to see your horoscope you see it from your rising house and there are degrees then there are aspects then there are different charts for different things so there's a navamsha chart there is birth chart or your lagna chart if you want to see your job there's a d9 chart so they're totally different types of charts and
Speaker: There are different types of astrology.
Speaker: So it's very nuanced, but it was reduced to just to sunshine because of that capitalistic view.
Speaker: So it's very...
Speaker: easy to find your sole purpose to astrology actually you have to look at your first house and your 10th house and you can get to know so much about where you're aware the direction of your life is and it's a very good starting point you don't have to live everything according to your chart but it's very nice to start from there and then progress if you are feeling lost
Speaker: And so now, as I was saying, a lot of people say that astrology is not a science.
Speaker: That's because if you do a regression analysis and you just take one
Speaker: variable one dependent variable just like you were doing with sun sign obviously the analysis is not going to work right because there is just one thing where are the things that are that it's dependent on so there are a lot of variables in astrology as well just like there are a lot of variables in a regression analysis and also it's data driven as well in the sense like you look in the past like what runs it
Speaker: what transit in the chart happened with which correlates to which event in the real world.
Speaker: And then you make these assumptions that, okay, when Pluto transits, these happens, rains fall over or whatever, and then you predict.
Speaker: So that's
Speaker: When you have a deeper knowledge about astrology, but if you want to start, you should use it as a blueprint to get to know more about you, to get to know about your dharma or to get to know about how the environment around you is working for you.
Speaker: Okay.
Speaker: So yeah, as I was saying, again, there are 12 houses.
Speaker: So it starts from yourself.
Speaker: So the first house in astrology is yourself.
Speaker: And then it goes to the 12th house, which is your subconscious and losses, dreams, everything.
Speaker: So it's a full circle.
Speaker: Now, to tell you a little bit about the...
Speaker: origin of astrology.
Speaker: So the Vedic astrology, so there are two types of astrologies.
Speaker: There's tropical astrology and there's sidereal astrology.
Speaker: Tropical astrology is basically what the Western astrologers use.
Speaker: You must have seen circle in a lot of videos, in TikTok videos, that's how tropical astrologers draw
Speaker: the birth chart so um but vedic astrologers there's a square so all the most of the south indian uh south indians sorry most of the indians have uh kundalis um north indians have a squared kundali with triangles or diamonds and south indians uh have squared
Speaker: Kundalys with squares inside.
Speaker: So that's a difference too.
Speaker: But the main difference between sidereal and tropical astrology is that tropical astrology uses equinoxes as a central point, whereas sidereal astrology uses the actual
Speaker: position of the planet in the sky in the real time.
Speaker: So they calculate the degrees in which the planets are there in the sky right now.
Speaker: And that's how they use to calculate the charts and the position of planets in your charts.
Speaker: But tropical astrology uses equinoxes where the position of Earth is right now.
Speaker: And that's why the zodiac signs in tropical astrologies are fixed, whereas the zodiac signs in West, sorry, Vedic astrology keeps on changing every year and they don't have a fixed time limit.
Speaker: So that's why Diwali comes sometimes in November, sometimes in October.
Speaker: So we see the movement of the moon, the movement of the planet.
Speaker: That's why months are not in correlation with the calendar we use.
Speaker: So that's a little about Vedic astrology.
Speaker: And it's found in Rig Veda.
Speaker: And it was introduced in ancient India in 5,000 to 10,000 BC.
Speaker: I think I've known this about Vedic and Western.
Speaker: The basic difference, I think, which I resonate with has been that Vedic obviously comes from the Vedas and is more dependent on the positioning of the moon.
Speaker: And the Western astrology considers positioning of the moon and the equinoxes, as you said.
Speaker: But I agree with you.
Speaker: I have taken both things into consideration.
Speaker: And what I have found is like a Vedic is generally told to be more accurate than the tropical or Western astrology.
Speaker: Yes, even I find a Vedic like more in...
Speaker: more resonating with me than tropical but that doesn't mean tropical is all bad some things that resonate with me in tropical astrology are the outer planets so vedic astrology doesn't consider the outer planets like planets after saturn while tropical astrology does consider planets like neptune pluto
Speaker: So when I talked to some tropical astrologers, they told me about how these planets influence us because they're more like structural planets.
Speaker: So they usually change the structure of the world and doesn't affect an individual as much.
Speaker: But that was nice to know as well.
Speaker: So if you have Neptune in the sixth house,
Speaker: you have ADHD like tendency to our whole generation kind of has Neptune in the sixth house.
Speaker: A little task like doing a house chore can feel like very overwhelming to us.
Speaker: So like daily routines, normal routines, because sixth house is a house of daily routines.
Speaker: So I always thought like why this happens to me and should I get tested for ADHD?
Speaker: But it does give ADHD like symptom and that's maybe the reason why there was such a big surge of people saying that we might have it because we are showing the symptoms, but they didn't have it in the end.
Speaker: So that was very interesting to know through tropical astrology.
Speaker: Now, coming back to Vedic, because I'm going to, that's something I know.
Speaker: And I think I'm going to talk through that lens only.
Speaker: We are your students today, Manya.
Speaker: That's too much pressure and friction.
Speaker: I think it's kind of visible maybe even in how I'm speaking.
Speaker: But okay.
Speaker: Yeah, we're loving it.
Speaker: Thanks.
Speaker: So I guess now let's talk about retrogrades because fear mongering has been a very big thing in astrology.
Speaker: Not even like right now, even in India since the very beginning, a lot of
Speaker: Jyotish or people who don't actually have the knowledge or want to pass it on do use some things in astrology to sell their remedies, sell their crystals, sell their rings, which is not very...
Speaker: Nice thing to do.
Speaker: What can I say?
Speaker: But anyways, so retrogrades, basically what a retrograde planet is, is just that a planet looks like it's going backwards in the sky, but it's not actually.
Speaker: It's like a distorted or ambiguous movement of the planet in the sky.
Speaker: So it just appears to move backward.
Speaker: So how it translates to our lives is that we have to slow down because there's like ebbs and flows in our energy as well.
Speaker: And in retrogrades, we have to slow down and reflect in the past.
Speaker: Just like the movement of the planet, the planet's going backwards.
Speaker: We have to stop and reflect in the past.
Speaker: And that's why a lot of past people come back in our lives.
Speaker: That's the universe's way of testing that how we...
Speaker: grown have we transformed can we do can we react to these people differently so that's another way of universe testing us and a lot of planets go in retrograde so Mercury goes in retrograde like a lot of times in a year three times Saturn and Jupiter go retrograde like once a year Mars and Venus once every two years and Rahu and Ketor North North South they are
Speaker: always retrograde so this is a very nice time to reflect to journal and to see how far you have come in life and to
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: And to check which house the retrograde is happening in and how it's affecting your life.
Speaker: So if it's happening in your first house, it changes your self-identity, how you view yourself, your image of yourself, maybe your looks or whatever.
Speaker: And it depends on that and what the planet represents.
Speaker: So if I go deep into that, I think I'm going to take a long time.
Speaker: So this is the basic overview of retrogrades.
Speaker: It's just for reflection.
Speaker: There is no such thing as retrograde causes breakup or retrograde.
Speaker: Because of retrograde, you lose your job.
Speaker: You lose your job or have breakup because there were holes in your ship anyway so that it was meant to sink.
Speaker: You were just ignoring the red flags.
Speaker: You were just pushing it down.
Speaker: And now all the...
Speaker: problems are coming to the surface and you it's like a tower moment and you have to come out of it so that retrogrades don't cause any um
Speaker: problems in your relationship or your personal life would you like to i think it just heightens yeah i think it just heightens the energy and so people feel like there is this chaotic energy around them but when they can bring like a little awareness into how things are happening how things are amplified in their life they can really use this uh phase this energetic uh
Speaker: time of their life in a really good way.
Speaker: We have like a Venus retrograde in Leo right now.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: According to like Western.
Speaker: So do you know when was the last time Venus was in retrograde?
Speaker: Like
Speaker: Around the same time only.
Speaker: In which year?
Speaker: 2020?
Speaker: 2021 or 2020?
Speaker: In Leo.
Speaker: It was back in like eight years ago, 2015.
Speaker: And I don't know if you can like relate back to that time.
Speaker: But for me, I can definitely see that there's been no going back since that time.
Speaker: So like Venus again, the planet of love, beauty, passion.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: creativity and again in Leo more passion and abundance and there's like this I would say theme of social connections relationships and there's a lot of like inward focus as well towards what your passions are where you are heading in your life and all of that so I think the themes back then were really strong for me and I don't know how it was for you but yeah and that was something that I wanted to share so
Speaker: That's really nice.
Speaker: No, I actually don't remember.
Speaker: I didn't like 2015 was when we were entering when we just entered the 11th grade.
Speaker: Yeah, July, August, September.
Speaker: Because I know July because it was in Leo.
Speaker: So obviously, it means it wasn't in my first house.
Speaker: So yes, you are right.
Speaker: I had this sudden urge to change my appearance.
Speaker: And because of that, I started like really working out.
Speaker: So I think maybe it's related to that because my relationship wasn't affected.
Speaker: So maybe I became passionate towards my dreams and my goals because I wanted to put myself first.
Speaker: So relationships is not just like...
Speaker: the romantic relationship relationship was all is also like our sense of identity and how we are socializing and how different people might have influenced our life in a different way and how we kind of regained our sense of self or kind of navigated that period of time I think that was something that was really heightened for me back then yeah now you're saying it's coming a little back to me because August September it was when we started 11th and yes it was so different from how I was in 10th grade so
Speaker: Yes, absolutely.
Speaker: Okay.
Speaker: Would you like to add something or should we move forward?
Speaker: No, I think we can.
Speaker: There was just this Vedic and Western thing.
Speaker: I think you've already covered that part.
Speaker: So like even in Mercury, another thing about fear mongering that has been done in India a lot is regarding being monglic.
Speaker: So monglic, it means when you just have a really good placement of Mars.
Speaker: So Mars is something that makes you aggressive and makes you highly sexual, not in a bad way, just very a peace, sex appeal is heightened and everything.
Speaker: So astrologers recommend that if you are marrying someone, especially a range marriage, a mangolic person shouldn't marry a non-mangolic person.
Speaker: But that doesn't mean the other one would die.
Speaker: It just means they won't be compatible.
Speaker: But the thing is, if you have if you've been in a relationship, you have very good communication, you can communicate about your needs, about your life.
Speaker: temper, anger, then it's no problem.
Speaker: So you don't have to marry a tree for a remedy or a dog for a remedy or whatever.
Speaker: It just depends upon how you communicate those needs.
Speaker: So if you have been in a relationship and one is a mangling, the other is not a mangling, it's not a big deal because you know how to communicate.
Speaker: You are already compatible.
Speaker: So, this has been going on since a long time that I think women, even men, but especially women have been shamed for being manglic, which is, and the media hasn't, the mainstream media hasn't helped.
Speaker: So, in every serial, if they want to show something bad, they say that this girl is manglic, so she can't get married.
Speaker: That's
Speaker: that's bullshit it's a good placement to have mars if you have mars in uh if you are manguet that means you have mars in a good place and that also means you're very actionary ended so you can physically manifest a lot of things because you're going to put in the work that's needed so don't uh listen to anybody who tells you that that's not a good placement to have sorry
Speaker: So I think this is all I have about traditional astrology, but I'm going to introduce you guys to a new tool that's come like a few years ago.
Speaker: It's called astrocartography.
Speaker: And so it's basically a Western tool, but you can use your Vedic chart to map your
Speaker: to map your placements around the world.
Speaker: So if you just put your normal chart in a software, what it does, it shows you all the places where the planets were positioned and their energies were heightened around the globe.
Speaker: So if, uh, when you were born, like, uh, I'm not going to tell my time.
Speaker: So what tell my time?
Speaker: You were born at 12 o'clock, maybe.
Speaker: So at 12 o'clock moon was near, um, maybe Russia or a sun was in, um,
Speaker: I don't know, America.
Speaker: So it's, it goes like this and it's, there has, there's an ascendant line and a descendant line.
Speaker: And there are, because it is a Western tool, it has more than just a nine planet.
Speaker: It also has asteroids and Chiron and everything.
Speaker: So you, with this tool, you can deduce where you want to go.
Speaker: So where you can find love.
Speaker: So if you go to your Venus line, you can see where Venus is in your chart.
Speaker: So it's a very good place to find love.
Speaker: Jupiter, the place where your Jupiter line passes through is a very good place for your career.
Speaker: So I would just like to quickly tell you my example.
Speaker: So when have you gone?
Speaker: Have you gone to someplace, Mania?
Speaker: So when I was in university, I didn't know this.
Speaker: Just like last month or two months ago, I realized when I was in university, I was near my Saturn line.
Speaker: So Saturn is a very, my favorite planet.
Speaker: I don't know.
Speaker: Maybe it's because it's never...
Speaker: It's me alone.
Speaker: I have a lot of Saturn influence in my life anyways.
Speaker: So I was near my Saturn line and it was descendant line.
Speaker: So when a line is descending, it means that the energies that you're going to feed in that day is through relationships and friendship.
Speaker: And Saturn is the planet of karma and daily routine setting boundaries.
Speaker: So a lot of people that I met were either there to teach me some kind of lessons
Speaker: Or to fulfill and for me to pay up my karmic debts.
Speaker: So everything that may be wrong things that I did to people in the school happened to me.
Speaker: Or like to set to trigger me so that I get good at setting boundaries and get disciplined with my work.
Speaker: So all these things happened to me.
Speaker: Then I had to go on exchange, which I really didn't want to go because it was just coming to Switzerland, which was weird for me because I was coming back.
Speaker: But my dad told me that I should come here and spend some time here for six months.
Speaker: I should study here.
Speaker: I wasn't excited, but things happened and I came.
Speaker: And then I saw on astro cartography that my moon sign is here.
Speaker: So every trigger, so my moon line passes from me.
Speaker: A moon is something that you rest, you turn inwards, you heal, you spend time in nature, spend time alone.
Speaker: That's what moon represents.
Speaker: So all the triggers that I faced there during my studies, I came here and then I reflected on them.
Speaker: I healed from them.
Speaker: So that's
Speaker: I didn't have any hand in this.
Speaker: It was all cosmically planned.
Speaker: And I was just so shocked at this, that how is this happening?
Speaker: But it was really nice to see that universe had my back.
Speaker: Fun storyline.
Speaker: Yes.
Speaker: Have you seen your, I think I, yeah, I've seen the, I've seen the chart, but like just in a flow.
Speaker: So I haven't been, yeah, I've seen the places where I should be going, but I haven't had the chance to kind of sit with it.
Speaker: You were saying something, go ahead.
Speaker: No, I'm saying that only.
Speaker: I think I got curious about the card when I heard it from somebody.
Speaker: I took out and I wrote down the places and that was just about it.
Speaker: But it's nice that you have had the experience.
Speaker: Yeah, because I was studying one day and I just thought, let's look back.
Speaker: Why I don't have, because a lot of people have friends from college and why I don't talk to anybody from my university.
Speaker: Because it was like, I can't say they were bad people or I was bad or they were good people, but...
Speaker: somewhere in my mind was like they taught me lessons I can't handle them as bad obviously that I don't talk to them or they were bad for me but then yeah when I saw this it was like okay it was meant for a short period of time and now it's done and it's time to move on so that was kind of closure for me
Speaker: Okay, so Mania, was there, like is there, because from my side, I don't think I have anything to add on to that.
Speaker: Is there anything else?
Speaker: No, I think I would like to tell a lot of people of Saturn return, but I have a very interesting case study.
Speaker: So you should watch it until the end if you want to know things about Saturn return.
Speaker: But right now, I think we should talk about another spiritual tool, which is numerology.
Speaker: So Antriksha, would you shed some light upon it?
Speaker: Yes.
Speaker: So as astrology has so many layers attached to it, it's kind of complex.
Speaker: But when it comes to numerology, it has that rational, straightforward touch to it.
Speaker: And that is why I think globally men are kind of attracted to it more because it is like direct, you know, it's and when we speak of numbers,
Speaker: The first thing that comes to our mind is our angel numbers, right?
Speaker: Angel numbers are repeating numbers like 222, 333, or in a set of 411, 1111, so to say.
Speaker: But the thing is that angel numbers are obviously guiding numbers, universal signs.
Speaker: And there are a lot of definitions of them online.
Speaker: But at the same time, it's important to know that the root number
Speaker: the foundation of all of those things are into in numerology so if you haven't kind of study studied and dived into numerology it's kind of futile to see whatever is out there online because for example 222 could mean an entirely different thing for me and could mean an entirely different thing for manna yeah
Speaker: So, and online what we find is like there is one single definition of the angel numbers that and that is given.
Speaker: Now, having said that, when it comes to numerology, there are one to nine single digit numbers of our life path numbers.
Speaker: And then there are three like master numbers, 11, 22 and 33.
Speaker: And master number 22, which is said to be 12.
Speaker: the most powerful but at the same time the shadows are also the most powerful then right so it's not to say that one is greater than the other the single digit life path numbers you can do a simple google search and find your life path number based on your time and date of birth right so
Speaker: So like the single digits have a very clear life path, have a very, I would say, powerful and clear energy and reading attached to it.
Speaker: But then the master numbers have the spiritual background.
Speaker: So the master numbers have kind of a lot of responsibility for the collective on the shoulders.
Speaker: So since I'm a master number, I kind of have a...
Speaker: you know done my research on it more than the other things i know about other things and i kind of go through that to my clients when they are interested in numerology but at the same time like i would say for as master numbers there is a lot of like karmic clearings going on there's a lot of lessons and when
Speaker: And I think from based on my experiences, the experiences I've had in my life, there has been a lot going on in my life.
Speaker: And that's what usually happened for the master numbers, because that is it's required for who they are going to be for the collective later on, right?
Speaker: So that's the entire gist of like life path number.
Speaker: Then there is destiny number.
Speaker: There are a lot of like creative expression number.
Speaker: There are a lot of numbers that you can find out and have your entire reading of numerology.
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: And apart from that, we have like universal years.
Speaker: Currently, the universal year that is going on is number seven, which is again inward focus and spiritual awakening number.
Speaker: Like seven is a very spiritual number, right?
Speaker: So all of us, number seven is the universal year right now.
Speaker: And it's funny because like personally, apart from universal year, we then have personal years, right?
Speaker: And the personal year that is currently going on for me,
Speaker: is about balance and partnership.
Speaker: So balance, again, things are going into my life, but the partnership thing, we are having it right now.
Speaker: So it's funny how things happen and I haven't been like obsessed with it.
Speaker: But then I do it like it makes you kind of understand and have like a sense of life, a sense of yourself much more.
Speaker: Plus coming back to like angel numbers, once you get your charts of numerology, you get all of that, then you'll be able to kind of detect the exact meaning of angel numbers when they come into your life.
Speaker: So it is said that when you are spiritually ascending and you're having your awakenings, you'll start to see a lot of angel numbers around you as a sign that, you know, you are in that energy.
Speaker: So for example, for me, like 777 is considered a number of luck, right?
Speaker: A number of fortune.
Speaker: But for me, it always shows up.
Speaker: I don't know why I haven't known for a long time why it always shows up to me when I'm going out to meet my friends.
Speaker: So it's like I'm going out for a fun time, but that is the time when luck is showing around for me.
Speaker: But I have kind of like my own meaning come out for myself, which is like I usually don't take out time for myself when it comes to joy and pleasures of life.
Speaker: And it's kind of universe-changing.
Speaker: affirming that I kind of deserve that time I deserve the joy and that is what my meaning attached to 777 is and for somebody else it could be entirely different thing right so based on your own charts based on your own relationship with the cosmic codes you'll have your own meanings but first please get into the science of numerology and then go towards whatever angel numbers you are interested in yeah
Speaker: absolutely true a lot of people ask me i saw this angel number what does that mean so i said it doesn't have one inherent meaning obviously inherent meaning it means whatever you want it to mean yeah and 777 has been following me for the past few days everywhere i look i don't know how many cars i've seen with 777 number plate like okay like maybe have a different number sometimes so
Speaker: Yeah, it's been crazy.
Speaker: And even in, you know, what I do is I, with angel numbers, it's just I ask the universe for a sign.
Speaker: So like, don't show me it on a clock, but sometimes show me.
Speaker: Once I ask if you want me to pursue like, or do this, I was doing some parliament thing, student parliament, if you want me to go ahead with it.
Speaker: this show me 333 so I was like I'm not gonna see it or whatever and then I opened my phone and this influencer I don't even see her stories had a story of a treadmill and the treadmill's time or whatever was 333 I was like okay you shock me sometimes it happens that way and it could mean entirely different thing for her and for you but obviously it's a universal sign it's a guiding sign so it always has some like real significance and meaning attached to it
Speaker: Amazing, right?
Speaker: How it works out everything.
Speaker: Yes.
Speaker: Okay, so we have like
Speaker: Do you have anything to add to numerology or we can head towards human design?
Speaker: I think we can head towards human design.
Speaker: Yeah, you covered most of it.
Speaker: All these tools are so like intense and so diverse.
Speaker: So we're just like quickly brushing through to give you a gist of it.
Speaker: Because again, now we are starting with human design.
Speaker: It's again like I've been studying it for two years and then I got into a course and we were being trained and still today I'm like discovering more and more things about it.
Speaker: Exactly.
Speaker: It goes like that.
Speaker: It's like years of research, 20 years of studies and research done into something you can't get trained into something in a few months or years.
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: Especially these kind of tools which have been in our...
Speaker: life or in the world for ages and ages.
Speaker: They have so much of knowledge within them.
Speaker: And I always feel like you were speaking about people being skeptic.
Speaker: For me, I think I always say science is always keeping up with spirituality because the things like spirituality has already told ages ago, they get discovered and kind of proven just like in recent decades.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah, so let's start with like human design.
Speaker: I think human design for me, how I describe it as a permission slip to your own essence, because, okay, so human design, apart from it takes into account the astrology part, which is like the positioning of the planets.
Speaker: But at the same time, it also includes three other things, which are some Chinese itchings, Kabbalah and the chakra system.
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: So it covers all of those things.
Speaker: And then it brings out a modern system for us.
Speaker: And basically, like we have the sun signs in zodiacs, right?
Speaker: The main things in human design, we have five energy types, right?
Speaker: So there is generator, manifesting generator, manifestors, reflectors and projectors.
Speaker: So I'm a generator, Manna here is a projector.
Speaker: I thought you were mangen.
Speaker: Everybody thinks.
Speaker: And I also thought I'm a manager.
Speaker: And so I discarded human design when I first approached it.
Speaker: Because I felt I was a manager.
Speaker: Okay, so generators, manifesting generators and manifestors.
Speaker: These three categories are like high energy people.
Speaker: The world is full of generators the most.
Speaker: Majority of the people we have across the world is generator.
Speaker: I think the world demands it at the moment.
Speaker: We have this hustle culture.
Speaker: We have this culture of 9 to 5 go, go, go.
Speaker: And naturally, generators are kind of...
Speaker: But at the same time, I think where generators get misunderstood or get taken advantage of is like people approach generators because they are naturally high energy people for everything.
Speaker: Like, you know, for every responsibility, for all the things of the...
Speaker: for the responsibilities of the world, we tend to go towards a generator.
Speaker: But the thing is, we fall flat because when we take on projects which are not aligned with our own joy, with our own mission, and that's the kind of work for generators, they have to align themselves with the joy.
Speaker: And when they follow their joy, then obviously things can get into alignment and they are going to be much more successful and feel the fulfillment.
Speaker: Otherwise, they'll just be in soul sucking job and will just be on this like
Speaker: conveyor belt and they'll be getting taken advantage of right that's that's the thing for generators and where the where the work that is needed by them is figuring out their joy and following that joy and the success the help the purpose the help towards humanity is going to be all a by-product of them following their joys right so
Speaker: So the second thing comes is manifesting generators.
Speaker: Again, a lot of people are manifesting generators.
Speaker: The very stereotypical kind of explanation of manifesting generators are they are multi-passionate people, right?
Speaker: So I first thought that I was a manifesting generator because obviously I wear many hats.
Speaker: But at the same time, one thing that clicked for me with time was manifesting generators find it hard to kind of finish the projects, right?
Speaker: They leave things...
Speaker: open or unfinished because they are constantly attracted to so many different passions and manifesting generators keep on like changing their careers a lot but the work here the shadow is again the uncompleted projects the shadow for them is like if they are interested in 20 things they need to cut that shot into at least 10 things and
Speaker: and get them completed first before they move on to another project, right?
Speaker: So that is the shadow, that is the work that is required for the manifesting generators.
Speaker: Then we come to the manifestors.
Speaker: So manifestors have very individualistic energy.
Speaker: They are like here to start movements, to start missions, to start with new ideas.
Speaker: And then the people are going to be following them eventually.
Speaker: But they get like, a lot of the times they get this
Speaker: judgment because they have that individual vibe since they are little kids they want to go their own way have their own ideas start off with something like very differently but their shadow is like they go all in on nothing at all so they're like they're into something if they have the idea the mission they go like they give the 1000% maybe more than generators as well but when they're not feeling it it comes down to 10%
Speaker: And I think the example that I could give is Adele.
Speaker: She like takes time to create her album.
Speaker: She goes all in and then she retreats back.
Speaker: Then she takes her time.
Speaker: She takes long pauses as well.
Speaker: So like she has her time, right?
Speaker: And then she takes time to recharge.
Speaker: Then we come to projectors, which is Mania here.
Speaker: Projectors, do you know Mania, these are the recent addition to the world and these are the youngest people that we have.
Speaker: No, I had no idea about it.
Speaker: Tell me more.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: So projectors are the youngest addition.
Speaker: And because like the top three that we have discussed fitting to the, you know, requiring for that high energy world, but at the same time, consistent energy again is something that makes them feel uncomfortable.
Speaker: Yes.
Speaker: But for projectors, it becomes even more hard, right?
Speaker: Because for projectors, like manifestors, I've told you, they have like their periods, like their years of high, and then they have their years of retreating inwards.
Speaker: But for projectors, it happens on a daily basis.
Speaker: So like you have your moments of productivity in a day, two, three hours of like the productive moment, productive time.
Speaker: And then the rest of the hours, you need the rest.
Speaker: You need the conscious pause because you have that intuitive gifts.
Speaker: You need the pause.
Speaker: You need the rest.
Speaker: You need the recharge.
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: That is what happens with projectors.
Speaker: The shadow of the projectors is that they have an eye for things.
Speaker: So they are quite observant of what's going right, what's not going right.
Speaker: They shouldn't be going out and doing everything like the world demands them to.
Speaker: And they can come out a little blunt with the unsolicited advice at times because they're constantly observing a lot because they are reiterating inwards a lot.
Speaker: So they have this, people can get a little triggered and they can also get a little, I would say, desperate to kind of speak out on things that they feel are going wrong around them.
Speaker: But it's just like they have to put themselves out of those places and keep the observations until there's like a diplomatic invitation.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: And yes, again, the invitation, they need the invitation, right time, right moment to kind of come up with the observation that they have.
Speaker: Again, the world is not designed for the projector spirit.
Speaker: But if we get tuned into it, we get the hold of it, we can really thrive and become much more successful.
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: in our human design.
Speaker: And finally are the reflectors, which is the rarest kind.
Speaker: 1% of the population globally are reflectors, I think, and these are the oldest.
Speaker: So when you take out your human design chart, you have like all of different colors, different gates, like 64 gates, there are different channels, everything is going on.
Speaker: But for reflectors, their charts are all open.
Speaker: It's clear and white.
Speaker: So reflectors, just as the name suggests, they take in the energy of other people.
Speaker: if they are in a negative environment, they'll amplify that.
Speaker: If they are in a positive environment, they amplify that.
Speaker: So the work again is going to be really protective of their own energy and really be conscious of what their mission is, what they really want in their life.
Speaker: And I've also heard that once a reflector, always a reflector because you can't change that chart.
Speaker: So if you do believe in rebirths, you're always going to be reflector with different purposes, but you'll always have that openness.
Speaker: to the world you carry that energy all around so this is like the basic gist of five energy types but then again like astrology there are so many different things for example i've written here
Speaker: We have intuition, we have identity, our soul's mission, which is like the incarnation cross.
Speaker: And again, thing that is there in human design that I think 192 soul missions are there.
Speaker: And then it gives us a clear picture of what we are here to do in this world.
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: Then we have how do we make our decisions, how to make things happen, how our digestion should be, how our gut works and all of that.
Speaker: So it's like a mix of everything.
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: but I would again say like reflectors and projectors need a lot of pauses and rest than the rest of the world and I think for me it was like a confirmation when I discovered my human design because I felt I had the extra energy and the passion the shadow for me was that I was taking up
Speaker: When it comes to like the joy part.
Speaker: So maybe I was taking a project than I was capable of or than I was enthusiastic about.
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: So the catch for me was, am I taking these projects because of people pleasing trades?
Speaker: Or for external validation or for things like that.
Speaker: And if I, of course, I'm a multi passionate person.
Speaker: So I want to take up like five projects at hand.
Speaker: But then I take pauses and be like, what exactly in terms of my joy in terms of my priority, where do I fix that in?
Speaker: And instead of like taking up five commitments right now, can I take three?
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: Which are to the point of my aligned joy.
Speaker: And that worked for me.
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: When I discovered my human design and I studied the shadows and the gifts.
Speaker: But for the ones who haven't, like who have felt an identity crisis in their life, I think human design brings a lot of clarity.
Speaker: I've seen so many people, so many coaches that I today learn from.
Speaker: they have kind of identified their soul's mission.
Speaker: They kind of have shifted their entire careers, have had gotten that clarity and sense of identity once they figured out what human design is all about and they've gotten like obsessive about it.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Can be used like a really great tool if you want some clarity and if you want to function better.
Speaker: It's really, it's actually very accurate.
Speaker: And even I, when I read my incarnation cross, I was like, dude, I am doing this actually.
Speaker: And this is such a great confirmation.
Speaker: Also, as you said, you felt like man-gen.
Speaker: Even I felt like a man-gen at one point in time, because I was like, I am taking up so many projects and I am leaving them in the middle.
Speaker: I'm not even completing them.
Speaker: So at one point I had like two jobs.
Speaker: I had
Speaker: college like part-time jobs and I was in the committee like executive committee of two clubs so I was like wow and then I had taken a fencing as well because I wanted to try it it was my new passion so I was like why is this soft piercing I'm a projector I'm clearly a mangen then I read into it and I saw how energetic projector that is me take up mangen's qualities and then they end up being burnt out which is exactly what happened to me I was totally burnt out after
Speaker: I think it's also a myth.
Speaker: It's also a myth.
Speaker: Like you can be a multi-passionate person.
Speaker: It's just that mangen.
Speaker: Do you find it hard to kind of finish projects?
Speaker: Because for me, commitments and responsibility is a big thing.
Speaker: So I don't leave projects unfinished.
Speaker: Even if like my enthusiasm has gone, I make sure that I complete the projects.
Speaker: So that was one thing that didn't align with me while I was trying to fit myself in the mansion category.
Speaker: For me, it was like finishing the project was something that was a part of me.
Speaker: How was it for you?
Speaker: Like I couldn't just take it ahead.
Speaker: I was just too tired to get up and do it.
Speaker: Like I wanted to just lay in the bed.
Speaker: I was like, okay, I have to cut these things out.
Speaker: So I don't have the energy to do it.
Speaker: do all the projectors and reflectors are like the non-energy types so they have uh they do require kind of lots of rest and pauses which is not at all accepted in this world right now but soon let's see anyways um yeah so thank you and tiksha that i i didn't know a lot of things about that yeah
Speaker: everything that you shared that was like gems of knowledge that I received from you today.
Speaker: So that was really nice.
Speaker: Thank you so much.
Speaker: And you know, human design is fairly new.
Speaker: So not a lot of people know about it.
Speaker: Not a lot of people have done the deep dive.
Speaker: So thanks for sharing again.
Speaker: So I think now, do you have anything else or should I, should we move to our case study?
Speaker: I'm waiting for your case study.
Speaker: It's like the highlight of our episode.
Speaker: Let's start then.
Speaker: So as Anziksha just told us about, there are much more aspects in human design.
Speaker: So one, another one is profile.
Speaker: So I think there's six numbers in profile and that each profile has two numbers with different combination.
Speaker: So today's case study is about obviously Taylor Swift because, you know,
Speaker: I mean, I don't have to tell you, so you know how mainstream she's been in a while.
Speaker: And I wanted to, I was reflecting on her past.
Speaker: I was just checking out what her energy type is.
Speaker: Some say it's manifesting, manifester, and some say it's projector.
Speaker: So I am still not sure what it is, but her profile is 5'1".
Speaker: And people who have 5-1 profile, they are heretics, especially with the 5-line.
Speaker: So their weakness or their shadow self is that they have this strong dependence on their reputation.
Speaker: So they literally want to take actions that shape people's opinions of them.
Speaker: So to an extent that it gets unhealthy.
Speaker: So maybe if a critic said something about her, she would try to change it that you can see it in her billboard speech as well, that if they told her that you have done genre change, so she just changed the whole genre from country to pop.
Speaker: And if they said that you are dating too much, then she completely stopped dating as she's saying.
Speaker: So and also how she viewed herself depended highly on people's opinion of herself.
Speaker: So to an extent that it must have gotten really hard for her because it's not easy to accept each and everyone when you are such in a
Speaker: in such a space that everyone has an opinion about you, like the world's population has an opinion about it, and you internalize that and you start viewing yourself as such, it must have gotten really hard for her, obviously.
Speaker: So now we come to Saturn return.
Speaker: So Saturn return happens to everybody.
Speaker: between the age of 26 to 31 so it's when the Saturn returns to the same place where it was during the time you were born so the same house same sign so Saturn return is the period where many of us have spiritual awakening before because we go through these Tava moments these awakenings karmic lessons and
Speaker: and everything.
Speaker: It's a tough time, but then the reward Saturn gives is amazing.
Speaker: Even Steve Jobs made iPhone after he went through his Saturn return.
Speaker: So it's a difficult period, but then you come out as this new transformed person.
Speaker: So...
Speaker: In 2016, Kanye released the song Famous, which obviously everyone knows about Kanye, is well aware about Kanye's Tale of Feud.
Speaker: And he received, he released a song called Famous, which mentioned Swift.
Speaker: And it implied that she had done some favors to Kanye.
Speaker: And that's why she got famous.
Speaker: And you can easily find the details about the feud on the internet.
Speaker: So obviously, Swift's world was like crashed down because now her image was that she wasn't self-made.
Speaker: And then it continued to grow to the extent that people started calling her snake or started calling this...
Speaker: Taylor Swift is over party, uh, hashtags were trending on Twitter and people's perception of her suddenly changed and everyone just turned against her so much.
Speaker: So she had to go in hiding and then, um, like disappear from parties in the mainstream media and she wasn't hiding for that.
Speaker: So that was a tough year for her.
Speaker: And she had entered her Saturn period only and she was 26, 27.
Speaker: So her main lesson through these things was that, uh,
Speaker: the people who are closest to her, only their opinions matter.
Speaker: So after she came out of this hibernation, she released an album called Reputation.
Speaker: And through that, you could have seen her grow that the only opinions that matter were of the people who were closest to her.
Speaker: So Saturn gave her all these lessons.
Speaker: And it doesn't matter what people think about it.
Speaker: You should know how to set boundaries.
Speaker: So basically, obviously another thing that you notice in the album, the main symbol is snake.
Speaker: So I don't know if it was a deliberate attempt or coincidence because everyone was calling her snake.
Speaker: So in Western sphere, a snake is somebody who's a backstabber or a scamming person.
Speaker: But in Eastern or indigenous culture, a snake is the...
Speaker: you know, symbol of transformation, death and rebirth, which she went through in her Saturn return.
Speaker: So that this really fascinates me, like how what her shadow self was, how she was pushing it, pushing it until Saturn came in.
Speaker: And it was like, stop.
Speaker: Now you have to build from the beginning, build the foundation that's stronger and not listen to all these people.
Speaker: And what really matters is this.
Speaker: And I really like how she challenged it in her album.
Speaker: But yes, these are my observation.
Speaker: And it's amazing.
Speaker: How universe plays its role in different things.
Speaker: We've loved the case study.
Speaker: It got me this vibe of like doing a Western podcast that comes into my real space that whenever I'm scrolling and there comes where they are discussing some case study together.
Speaker: Really?
Speaker: Like this thing has happened and this thing has happened now.
Speaker: So it was making me smile throughout me.
Speaker: But what did you think?
Speaker: Did you have any insights or did it raise any questions or any insights from you?
Speaker: I don't know.
Speaker: I think it was interesting to hear because I haven't been obsessed with media in that kind of way.
Speaker: But then I have actually watched Kanye's documentary, which is like based on his life.
Speaker: And it was nice as well.
Speaker: But this was something new.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: And it was like interesting, but at the same time, it kept reminding me of the podcast clips that I'm watching on Instagram.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Should we do this in our new episodes in Triksha?
Speaker: Did you like that?
Speaker: Change our structure.
Speaker: I love the case study part as well.
Speaker: It gives like a fun element to our episode where we are taking a celebrity and kind of discussing whatever in that gist.
Speaker: Because then we kind of discuss things for each other only.
Speaker: So it's like an outsider conversation.
Speaker: we are taking the example it's fun so now you guys know that we are not lying and these things actually happen okay these experience in your work so we are not just making up stuff to make you believe things and maybe if she's actually doing um she's actually a witch maybe it'll help us to you know in our journey we all have her attention at the moment could be
Speaker: Let's see.
Speaker: I think that's it.
Speaker: Do you have anything else to add or should we end it here on this note?
Speaker: No, I think we can end it.
Speaker: I would like to have like the final words where I feel like all these tools are really helpful in order to have this sense of self, sense of identity.
Speaker: And it brings us into...
Speaker: alignment with ourself, with our life and it's really helpful, right?
Speaker: Also, I think you should be taking these as guiding steps towards becoming a better person or like to be able to better function and experience this life much more fulfillingly.
Speaker: However, I think I've also come to realize that if you don't feel called to these things, you don't have to kind of grill yourself or punish yourself because...
Speaker: every soul is on its own journey and we have our own timings if your entire life it could be like people like to bash the 3d world and its functioning and like call out the 9 to 5 culture but at the same time I also believe like that there are a set of souls who are
Speaker: meant to do 3D right now.
Speaker: And if you, given that you are not in a soul sucking job, right?
Speaker: If you are really passionate, if you are in the fields of corporate life, if you are into it, you do not have to like force yourself towards other things.
Speaker: Because when it's your time,
Speaker: your soul is going to be craving for all of these things on its own and you're going to know it on your own.
Speaker: So that's something that I wanted to add.
Speaker: Wait for your craving.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: And your soul is going to be guiding you.
Speaker: Yes.
Speaker: And use these tools to, if you feel called to, don't use it for, don't use it to, you know,
Speaker: as an extension for your toxic behaviors or to justify your toxic behaviors or toxic habits, use it to improve yourself, as I said in the beginning.
Speaker: So that's my final words for you.
Speaker: And I guess we'll... I think because there's shadows to everything, right?
Speaker: When we talk about our gifts, there's always equal shadows and equal lessons and equal karmic debts that we have to clear along the way.
Speaker: So be ready for that as well.
Speaker: Okay then.
Speaker: See you next time guys.
Speaker: Yes.
Speaker: See you Mania.
Speaker: See you everyone.
Speaker: Bye.
Speaker: Have a good week.
Speaker: Bye bye.
