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Ep. 78: Marketplace Finds and Questionable Decisions

The Lone Machinists
The Lone Machinists

379 plays · Jun 24, 2026

This week on the Lone Machinist Podcast, Jamie returns from the chaos of moving an entire machine shop, only to discover that the universe rewards hard work with paperwork, broken internet, and even more work. The new shop is running, production is back online, and somehow an employee is shipping orders while Jamie isn't even there — a concept so foreign it feels suspicious. Meanwhile, Curt celebrates New Machine Day, although not the kind anyone expected. A ridiculously cheap Marketplace find turns into U-Haul adventures, reorganizing the shop, and the realization that exercise equipment is significantly larger when it's sitting in your garage instead of on Facebook Marketplace. The guys also discuss machine retrofits, servo nightmares, why spare taps only work if you buy them before you need them, and the magical experience of watching orders leave the building while you're somewhere else entirely. Apparently employees are just robots that complain less and require fewer macros. There's also an important public service announcement for South African machinists after Jamie discovers he's apparently one of the few people in the country who actually runs a spindle warm-up cycle. Because nothing says confidence like immediately sending a cold spindle into battle and hoping for the best. Links Discussed: * Concrete Lathe: http://instructables.com/Concrete-Metal-Lathe * Unitwist: https://unitwist.com/ The Lone Machinist: * Website: https://thelonemachinists.com/ * Bonus Content: https://thelonemachinists.com/#bonus-content * Merch: https://www.jspeceng.com/online-store * Patreon: https://patreon.com/TheLoneMachinists Need Work Done? Check out Subtract Manufacturing at: https://subtractmanufacturing.com/ Want to try out Toolpath [https://toolpath.com/]? Give it a go and get 10% off by using the code TLM10 at checkout: https://toolpath.com/ Jamie: * http://instagram.com/jspec_engineering * https://www.jspeceng.com/ * https://www.noughticalwh.com/ Curt: * https://www.instagram.com/confoundedmachine/ * https://www.confoundedmachine.com/

Transcript

jamie peacock: Welcome to the Loan Machines Podcast, which is you, the work and the machines. What have you got going on today, Kurt?

Curt: ah Today I'm going to talk about ah New Machine Day and Flames in the Hardinge and ah U-Haul Adventures, all of which are not exactly tied together.

Curt: How about you? What are you going to talk about?

jamie peacock: The machine moving adventure that was last week. um How useful Claude can be. And the joys of having an employee slash little bitch. How are you this fine day, Gert?

Curt: i'm doing I'm doing great. How are you doing with ti ah with your cold that you had last week and then your move that you had? You had a lot of lot of irons in the fire.

jamie peacock: Yeah, yeah, it's been a busy week since we spoke last, to the point that we've pushed the podcast out like two days from normal because I was on site.

jamie peacock: um But yeah, it's been ah it's been a crazy crazy week. But yeah, we'll dive into that in a little while. Let's bait the people. um I want to know about your new machine.

Curt: hu

jamie peacock: Like, fuck that shit. What's happening? What new machine did you get?

Curt: Uh, it's not at all related to machining. It is a marketplace find. It's an exercise machine. Um, yeah, I just like the, for the longest time, like I've been working out with like, oh, like rings and just like a but a big set of weights and I ran out of weights.

jamie peacock: Ah, fair enough.

Curt: Um, so it's like, well, got to buy more. And like weights are expensive, which is silly. Like, but I guess it's iron.

jamie peacock: Yeah. Ah.

Curt: You're buying hundreds and hundreds of pounds of it. So yeah, it gets spendy. Anyways, so I just doom scroll market marketplace and I came across like this commercial cable gym, which was like quite nice. And the guy wanted nothing for it. ah So i was like, sick, sent him a message and yeah, went and picked it up and severely underestimated the size of it. So that led into the whole other things of U-Hauls and reorganizing my shop and a bunch ah bunch of other things.

jamie peacock: I'm surprised you didn't just make concrete weights.

Curt: Dude, I literally...

jamie peacock: Since you are the concrete lathe man.

Curt: I had concrete molds in my, like, cause they make molds to like cast nice 45 pound concrete weights.

jamie peacock: Yeah.

Curt: Um, and I was like, Oh, I just do that. I'm like, but then I have to do that. I'm like, yeah, it's like, it's dirt cheap to buy them, but I'm like, going spend hours doing this. I'm like,

jamie peacock: Yeah.

Curt: I don't want that. I just i always want to buy it and just do it and then just carry on with my machining world. So, yeah, I went that way. it The urge is strong, though. The urge is very strong.

jamie peacock: I forget as much.

Curt: ah

jamie peacock: ah Yeah, if anyone interested, there will be a link for Kurt's Concrete Lathe in the description.

Curt: yeah Yeah, I don't know if I've ever linked that, but yeah, I made a big one back in the day. don't Long time listeners will know, but yeah.

jamie peacock: Yeah.

Curt: ah

jamie peacock: Yeah, the good old days. Back on Instructables. Okay, so it's not an exciting machine.

Curt: Yeah, that was a fun one.

jamie peacock: It's just an exercise machine.

Curt: Dude, no, it's not exciting at all. It's just something to something to get yoked with. so ah

jamie peacock: Yeah, to get ripped. Yeah, there we go.

Curt: To get ripped. Yeah. so

jamie peacock: Yeah, well, speaking of moving machines, what a absolute fuck show.

Curt: ah That's not the words I wanted to hear, but why was it a fuck show?

jamie peacock: So I ordered, so I had the guys come and assess. I know the guy who does the assessments. I'm like, listen, we need a seven-ton forklift. He said, yes, he agrees. The driveway is steep.

Curt: Mm-hmm.

jamie peacock: We need a seven-ton forklift.

Curt: Mm-hmm.

jamie peacock: and the guys arrived on Wednesday morning at 8.30 with a 3 ton forklift the machine's only 2.9 tons technically it's fine so I'm like let's try and they forked the LK they started coming back and the forklift started lifting its back wheels so I'm like a stop put the machine down grab the phone good day i ordered a 7 ton forklift I want it you're not rigging my machine with this Any guess what time that forklift arrived?

Curt: Yeah.

jamie peacock: 10

Curt: I mean, I know, but tell the listener.

jamie peacock: p.m.

Curt: oh

jamie peacock: So we ended up pushing the LK back into the garage so that we could move the doors to the other side, loaded all the other machines and the workbench and a whole bunch of other crap onto the truck, had them take that through while we waited for the forklift, offloaded it the other side, placed the M-code, placed the good way,

jamie peacock: And then came back and sat in front of my driveway from like three o'clock until 10 o'clock that evening when the forklift arrived.

Curt: Cool.

jamie peacock: They came down with seven-ton forklift, picked the LK up like it was nothing, and put it on the truck like it was nothing.

Curt: oh

Curt: Yeah, that's why you asked for that one.

jamie peacock: Like, not even mildly stressful.

Curt: Yeah.

jamie peacock: Like, yeah, then anyway, ended up ah locking up the shop at quarter to midnight. we all floated that We offloaded the machine at half past 11 at the shop.

Curt: well.

jamie peacock: It took them less than 15 minutes it still offload and put it in the shop.

Curt: I guess it's not.

Curt: was going to that, like, it all went quick once it arrived, so that's good.

jamie peacock: Yes. Once we had the equipment we fucking ordered.

Curt: Yeah.

jamie peacock: But yeah, anyway, machines are in. Had them commission them. Oh, fuck, I'm still paying them. I had them commission it on or are reassembled and commissioned and had them level the machine for me on Thursday.

jamie peacock: But it's now shorter than it was.

Curt: Okay. Okay.

jamie peacock: because the leveling feet, the the jacking screws were further down in the workshop than they are at the new shop. So the machine is now shorter by like 30 or 40 millimeters and it's noticeable.

Curt: Oh, wow. I guess, yeah, you've developed a ton of muscle memory.

jamie peacock: Yeah.

Curt: So, yeah, you'll notice it. yeah

jamie peacock: Yeah, so it's a little bit of a dwarf machine now. But yeah, they came in and leveled it for me. um And it started running production on Friday morning. And then had to promptly get in my car and fuck off the site for four days.

Curt: Right, yeah. Right.

jamie peacock: But yeah, the move, the move is done. Like, I haven't finished the wiring in the workshop yet. Like, it's wired functionally that we can run the machines that need to run and the lots that need to be on are on.

jamie peacock: But yeah I need to go, that's one of the things for this week, well, for today, is to go and try and just button up a bunch of that stuff while production runs on the LK.

Curt: Okay, well, at least at least you have things moving that feels better than, yeah.

jamie peacock: Well, yeah, feels better than nothing.

Curt: Yeah.

jamie peacock: um Yeah, it's been exhausting this week.

Curt: Nice.

Curt: Did everything at least go like where you planned, like where you had everything mapped out, like everything fit how you wanted it to?

jamie peacock: So the LK is a little bit further from the wall than I planned, just because we couldn't get any closer with the forklift.

Curt: and

jamie peacock: The forklift was as wide as the LK. And we had already placed the workbench and this, I think we just had the workbench and the way.

Curt: Oh, okay.

jamie peacock: um And yeah, we could only get about 900 mils from the wall. So I was like, it is what it is. That's where it goes. um It gives me access to both doors, so I'm not entirely unhappy.

jamie peacock: All the lathes placed exactly where we planned. Carl made his area a little bit bigger, but that's fine. The good way been running, it's run I think 1,000 parts or 1,200 parts since it's been there already.

Curt: Oh, nice. Okay. So it's yeah earning its keep quick.

jamie peacock: yes Yeah, yeah, it's been running. Cole's been running his lathe. The Emco I'm going commission today. We've got an order for the Emco Material Alives today. I need to take my band saw there today.

jamie peacock: So there's a still a lot of moving to happen.

Curt: Nice.

jamie peacock: Like, there's still a lot of stuff in my workshop that needs to go over. So we've got a WhatsApp group that's just stuff to bring. So whenever we realize we need something, we just put it on the group, and the next day I bring it in.

Curt: Oh, nice. That's convenient. Yeah, that works well.

jamie peacock: Yeah. Yeah, so and the big bandsaw needs to go on the truck today. um There was something else I needed to take with. i guess There's a bunch of stuff that I'm going to load. I've got Samo the Mamo coming today to help organize and clean and stuff. So I'll have him help me load.

jamie peacock: And then I can take that through one time when I go there.

Curt: Okay, nice.

jamie peacock: yeah i was going to get Danica to take my computer through today because her car has seats and mine has one seat. um And i don't want to stuff the screen up. But it's also kind of pointless. Like if I take it over there, we don't have in internet there yet. We're using our phones as hotspots because to get internet, because it's a so cellular service, I have to RECO, which is register the SIM card to my name.

jamie peacock: And for that, they want a copy of a certified copy of my ID. They want me to upload a scan of a certified copy of my ID. None of the local copier shop things can certify a copy. So I have to make a copy, go to the police station, have them certify that yes, this identity and this photocopy are the fucking same and then scan it and send it to them.

Curt: That sounds ridiculous.

jamie peacock: Because Africa. Yeah, no, like if you go buy a cell phone here, you have to give them your ID and your proof of residence.

Curt: Yeah.

Curt: Really?

jamie peacock: Yeah, it came into a effect 10 years ago, a law called RICA, where you have to register your your cell phone number.

Curt: Weird. Huh?

jamie peacock: I assume it's in an attempt to prevent fraud and bullshit. But it's like any law in South Africa.

Curt: Sure. Yeah.

jamie peacock: Laws are great. None of them are enforced.

Curt: Right. Yeah.

jamie peacock: So, yeah, unfortunately there, like, I have to now do additional fucking paperwork to be able to get internet to the workshop. So we're making a plan, hotspotting our phones, um which is fine for now, but it's going to get old very, very quickly.

Curt: Yeah. Yeah. I can see that being tedious.

jamie peacock: Also means I can't properly set up home assistants.

Curt: Yeah.

jamie peacock: So, yeah, that's that's this week's endeavor.

Curt: Yeah.

jamie peacock: But I've got to, yeah, it's... ah This week is already turning into a shit show, and we are day two.

Curt: Yeah, I mean, with that said, you did do a pretty goddamn quick move. Like, i'm I'm impressed you have production rolling again already, so that's good.

jamie peacock: Well, yeah, we had to.

Curt: yeah Well, yeah, I know that.

jamie peacock: I've got production due. I've got 200 parts due end of this week.

Curt: ah

jamie peacock: So I want to try to run through them today. Like I might just be there late running it finished that I can get the job out of the machine and they can come fetch their stuff. Because tomorrow I'm potentially going back to site.

Curt: Oh, for the retrofit still?

jamie peacock: Yes.

Curt: Hmm...

jamie peacock: That went swimmingly.

Curt: so yeah I could tell by the tone of your voice that you're very happy with it.

jamie peacock: so yeah well let's let's dive into that endeavor so i went through there on friday and i got there at half past two and then where they wanted to lock up at five okay two and off hours that's fine so i got the maso spun up got it moving the drive checked that the um servos would fit cool need shorter screws um Went to the hardware store.

jamie peacock: They only had long ones. I put a bunch of washers. like, don't worry. Danica's coming through tomorrow. She can bring me screws. Saturday morning, stripped all the other servos off, started gutting the electrical panel. I spent two hours gutting the electrical panel.

Curt: Wow.

jamie peacock: Every single contactor had one of its, so you've got your main contactor, ah um contact and then you've got your little auxiliaries on the top. You're normally closed and normally opens. Every single one of those fed back to the PLC.

Curt: Oh, wow.

jamie peacock: Every breaker had a thing on the side to feed back to the PLC. Like the amount of wire in this thing was just fucking insane. um But yeah, anyway, got that all running. um Saturday just literally pulled wire, got the machine to start moving.

jamie peacock: um Got X and Y moving, didn't get Z moving yet. Sunday morning, went in, wired up the brake for Z, got Z moving. Then I got all the home switches working.

jamie peacock: got it all homing. And then I was like, okay, got that done. Let me, ah then pulled in the pneumatics, um the wiring for the pneumatics, got that all dealt with, and i'm like, okay, let's start doing the spindle.

jamie peacock: This was at like one o'clock on Sunday. Let me start commissioning the spindle. So pulled the manual for the spindle, got on my phone, busy finding the settings I need. um It went from running CAN to running um just an input and analog voltage, got that working.

jamie peacock: And then would well i got that wired up and then it wouldn't it would see the analog in but wouldn't set the frequency. So I ended up pulling out my good friend Claude gave it the manual like this is what's happening.

jamie peacock: And we started troubleshooting and eventually by ah finished up at five on Sunday, I spent from one to five and four hours trying to get the spindle to eventually got it spinning.

jamie peacock: And then it wouldn't go over 400 hertz. So I got it all commissioned up to 12,000 RPM. The spindle can go to 24. So that's 800 hertz. Every time I went to over 420 hertz, the drive would freak out and throw it along.

jamie peacock: So I'm like, go okay, this is what it is. End of the day. Came in on the Monday morning, spent two hours fighting with that still. It's like, so now we we're trying to do the auto calibrates on this Bonfiglioni drive, which is really nice drive.

jamie peacock: trying to do the calibration and it keeps failing the auto parameter measurements. So eventually Claude and I are like, okay, maybe it's a loose connection. So I go and I check everything, bridge out the one contactor because I thought maybe one of the contact and the contact is fucked because there's a contactor feeding power to the VFD and then a contactor connecting the motor to the VFD for reasons.

Curt: Okay, yeah.

jamie peacock: Put the wires on the top of that. And then eventually, Claude was like, check these three variables when the drive alarms. It does a snapshot of what the current draw on the three phases is.

jamie peacock: So i go check, and the one's pulling like three amps, and the other two phases are pulling 30 amps.

Curt: Ooh.

jamie peacock: So I'm like, Claude was like, no, this this looks like it could be a loose connection. i'm like, there are no loose fucking connections. So eventually, i moved all the phases over one, uh,

jamie peacock: one pin ran the test again still on number one swap to the phases still on number one so i'm like okay clearly this drive is now fucked like something is fucked on the drive the current sensing i think so i phoned the customer like listen best i can tell i've done all the testing i can this drive is fucked i spoke to the operator and they said it kept dying in the cup last week because the machine was running last week

Curt: Hmm.

jamie peacock: And they're like, they're having a similar problem.

Curt: okay

jamie peacock: I'm like, Well, I think your drives like friend. So I was in like, fuck this noise. I then got all the oiling stuff all the wiring neatened up and got to change it working. So the ATC is all working.

jamie peacock: It just the spindle is and is missing a phase. So we're like, Okay, let's do a test cut unlimited it to only go to 12,000 RPM. Went to 12,000 RPM, started doing a cut, and the thing would just bog down and fucking die, like going two millimeters deep in MDF on a 10 kilowatt spindle.

Curt: Right, okay, yeah, yeah.

Curt: Yeah, yeah, on, yeah, two phases.

jamie peacock: So I'm like, yeah, yeah, on two phases.

Curt: Yeah.

jamie peacock: you'll meet Your drive is fucked. So now I'm trying to source them a drive locally, but I think it's going to be a case of we just buy one from fucking China, we pay for DHL, and you wait a week.

Curt: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

jamie peacock: That's going to be the best the best option because it's like all the ones I can find locally, no one can tell me what frequency. And the last thing I want is to go there and it only does 600 hertz instead of 800.

Curt: Right, yeah, yeah, totally.

jamie peacock: yeah, I'm going to have to have a call with him this morning and be like, oh, he cants. I'm not coming tomorrow because it's fucking pointless. Let me get the VFD in and then I'll come. You can't run the machine anyway.

Curt: Yeah. Yeah.

jamie peacock: Fuck. That's what it is. And then the other machine went down as well. The hard drive fucked down on it. And whichever schizophrenic maniac wired these fucking machines.

jamie peacock: Yeah, every fucking protocol you can think of is on this machine.

Curt: Oh, just like the other one? Yeah. Yeah.

jamie peacock: They both like at that. It's fucking wild. um

Curt: ah

jamie peacock: So are they like the new controller. It went from a bundle of cables to two little fucking skinny cables to use the Masso wiring kits, which also

Curt: Oh, nice. Yeah.

jamie peacock: Masso's does some weird shit, but whatever. um But yeah, I got that all working. And then I was having weird behavior because I slaved the A axis to the X axis. And every now and again, like it would home and then you'd see it like twist the gantry.

jamie peacock: And I, yeah, so eventually I was like, fuck this, I just put both sets of the, so I've got the differential to step and direction adapter.

Curt: Oh, okay.

Curt: Yeah.

jamie peacock: So the the massive signals garden differential, if your drive doesn't support differential, you have to buy this stupid little board that goes to single ended signaling.

Curt: Yeah.

jamie peacock: But that's right by the servos.

Curt: Mm-hmm.

jamie peacock: So one of those are just click the differential signals and shove them both into x axis. That's solved the problem.

Curt: Oh, wait, okay. So it wasn't doing something like dual like dual switch homing or something funky.

jamie peacock: Yeah. So I don't have an I didn't have an a limit set up because there isn't one on the machine. So there isn't a self squaring routine, the machine is square like rigid enough that it stays square.

Curt: Oh, OK, OK.

jamie peacock: Like if you drive the servos the opposite direction and then disable them, it springs back to square.

Curt: Yeah. Right, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

jamie peacock: Yeah. And I mean, I cut a 500 millimeter square. It took like seven attempts. It was within half a millimeter of square, like across the the diagonals.

Curt: Right. Yeah, OK.

jamie peacock: Like it's a router, it's fine.

Curt: Yeah, totally.

jamie peacock: But yeah, got that all, comfortable and got that all, got the ATC working, got the guys posting code to it. Like it's basically done. i bought an oiler kit. I ran out of pipe. because it's a fucking monster of a machine.

Curt: Nice.

jamie peacock: So now I've i've got some here, so I'll just take it through and finish plumbing it up. But they didn't have oil, so couldn't turn it on because it just beeps away if there's no oil.

Curt: Right.

jamie peacock: So yeah. But it was fun. It was a fucking ball egg, but it was fun.

Curt: Yeah, I guess, yeah.

jamie peacock: It's a decent amount of money for the effort, so yeah, I might just be doing the next one rather quickly after this one.

Curt: Which one?

Curt: which which one

jamie peacock: So I said to them, So there's two machines at this place.

Curt: Oh yeah. Okay. Gotcha. Right, right, right, right.

jamie peacock: Yeah.

Curt: right

jamie peacock: But the second one, think I may be lucky. I need to go the problem. The biggest issue is that the electrical panels on the floor on the side of machine.

jamie peacock: So gonna have to lay on my side and work on these fucking things.

Curt: Oh yeah.

jamie peacock: um

Curt: Yeah.

jamie peacock: But the drives are not integrated server. So this machine that I've worked on now has servos with integrated drive working with canvas, no other signaling that only talks of a cat.

Curt: Mm-hmm.

jamie peacock: So I turf them because well, fucking I can't talk over can. So i rep replaced all the servers, but the drives that are in the and other machine, they are talking with motion link.

jamie peacock: And enough they are drives and motors. So we might be able to just talk to the drives and step in direction and then not have to rewire everything. We can just recycle the drives.

Curt: That'd be nice. Yeah, that'd be super nice.

jamie peacock: Except for the one. Except for the one that's on the ATC because that uses CAN and it's a different fucking integrated server. Because why do things easily?

jamie peacock: So that I'll probably just switch for a one of the Maso ah closed loop steppers.

Curt: Yeah.

Curt: Sure. Yeah, totally.

jamie peacock: because it's easier to wire.

Curt: Yeah.

jamie peacock: But yeah, don't We'll see. so I said to them, I'll have a closer look when I go there to finish up the retrofit.

Curt: Yeah.

jamie peacock: And then, yeah, it took me two hours to get home yesterday.

Curt: Oh, exciting.

jamie peacock: It was less than pleasant. It took me through two separate locations because the traffic, I only ended up leaving at half past three, so i ended up sitting in traffic, which my little truck doesn't enjoy.

Curt: Hmm.

Curt: Yeah.

jamie peacock: But anyway, now that we've gone through all of the fucking things on my list,

Curt: I guess.

jamie peacock: Like, yeah, everything.

Curt: Yeah, we we nailed like everything.

jamie peacock: Okay, so you are reorganizing, yeah, reorganizing your shop.

Curt: Pick what you want.

Curt: Yeah, so ah like I said, bringing this big like cable machine in, and for anyone interested, it's a Hoist V5. It's like one of their older machines, but I like it. um It's heavy enough that it'll last me for a bit. um Anyways, i bringing it it in here, it's like eight feet wide. like It needs about like eight feet in length.

Curt: uh it's it just takes up a lot of floor space i don't have a lot of floor space in here i mean technically i do because i just save a bunch of it over there for no apparent reason and i'm like why why am i saving this and may well use it to like make my life easier so i just i move benches around and uh just kind of situated everything like things that i normally like i have like a little wash bucket i always wash my hands in and i have like my finishing station my ultrasonics and like a little bench that i roll around just to

jamie peacock: Yeah.

Curt: do final prep on i put it in places that just make sense now that i've done this for forever i'm like i'm always walking here i'm just going to move this like three feet closer because i can and here's like my tool cart i'm going to move it like three feet closer and like just moved everything where i think it's better and it's hilarious how much my body has built like muscle memory into going

jamie peacock: Yeah.

Curt: And doing dumb things. Like ah kind of have to crab walk between my machine and the manual lathe here. It's not, it's not narrow. It's like, it's two feet and a bit. So you could like walk through it and it's only that narrow, like kind at a diagonal. So it's not like it's boxing your shoulders in or something.

jamie peacock: Yeah.

Curt: But like for so long, I've kind of just noticed that like I just have to half twist as I walk through there. And now that I don't have to, it feels like my body feels more relaxed going through.

jamie peacock: Wrong.

Curt: It's the most bizarre feeling. So and anyway i just it's my like public service to just like reorganize your life. Like if you're doing something repetitive and you don't even like your body just gets used to doing it and you don't even notice that it's stupid.

Curt: Like.

jamie peacock: Yeah.

Curt: So I was just like so many dumb things.

jamie peacock: No, that's... Well, we're moving the shop, same thing, like rearranging everything. This is the opportunity to fix all the things that bug me.

Curt: Right. Yeah.

jamie peacock: Like, there's a bunch of stuff i was chatting to Carl. I'm like, all my electronic stuff, I'm not bringing it through. It's really convenient if something goes down and you need a spare and it's there. But why the fuck am I bringing it to the workshop?

jamie peacock: I've got a workshop at home still.

Curt: Totally.

jamie peacock: I've got half a garage that I can put all my electronic stuff into. If I want to do a retrofit or I want to build something, i can do it at home. It doesn't have to happen at work.

Curt: Yeah. Yeah, exactly.

jamie peacock: Like the industrial Lego might go over, but everything else can just fucking stay here. Even my welde my welder, my welder's currently there.

Curt: Yeah. And like,

jamie peacock: That's coming back. It doesn't need to be at the workshop.

Curt: Yeah, totally. tune Tune your space so it just it yeah pushes your...

jamie peacock: Yeah.

Curt: What you want to do pushes all those forward and doesn't distract you with a other of things. And like I thought about that too because I like i like like this big workout machine. i like, should I have it in my garage? I'm like, does it make sense to have it in here? But the thing is, I like i like to come in in the morning.

Curt: I always work out in the morning and i like I flick the machines on and so the mill can warm up for like half an hour and I can be out here or the lathe can be running dumb parts and I can be out here and just like...

jamie peacock: Yeah.

Curt: I like that aspect of it cause because I don't feel like I'm wasting time. I mean, ah take care of yourself probably isn't wasting time, but at the same time, I feel like I can double dip. Whereas could I do that inside? Yes, but just not with as much of peace of mind.

Curt: Um, so yeah.

jamie peacock: Sorry, just adding things here as I remember.

Curt: Yeah. Re-organize.

jamie peacock: So when I when when the when the guys were leveling my machine, they leveled it on my cool load program warm up.

Curt: No, I'd say reorganize your life, people.

Curt: Yeah.

jamie peacock: He's like, you are like the only person they know in South Africa that runs a warm up cycle.

Curt: Yeah.

jamie peacock: I just turn on and run. I'm like, Are you fucking kidding me? Then I know my spindles warm. I know my fucking machine has traveled its full extent and is fully lubed. Like, yeah, fucking it takes 15 minutes in the morning.

Curt: Totally.

jamie peacock: And you know, your machine is ready to go. They're like, nah, no one runs warm ups in South Africa.

Curt: Wow.

jamie peacock: Yeah.

Curt: I mean, how how much are you going to like reduce the machine life for, like ah let's say, budget, modest machines?

jamie peacock: Yeah.

Curt: Like... I don't know.

jamie peacock: So the other thing is, you warm your spindle up, and then you touch your tools off.

Curt: Is it worth it?

jamie peacock: And they're the same. If you don't, they vary.

Curt: Oh, yeah. That's that's main the main reason I warm everything up is just so it's consistent.

jamie peacock: yeah let it all expand and be happy yeah um also it's really weird now i don't have a phase converter to turn on and off every day so i actually have to turn the breaker on the back of the machine because i used to just hit power off and then home assistant would turn off the phase converter and the you asking box now i've got to go click and turn off the machine yes i also put a ball valve to the machine so i can turn air off to it because if

Curt: Yeah, for sure. Yeah.

Curt: Oh, nice. Yeah.

Curt: um nice Ah,

jamie peacock: If you turn the compressors on and they're at no pressure, the pressure comes up slowly and then the air regulator leaks and it my system will never get to pressure up with a ball valve.

Curt: Yeah, yeah.

jamie peacock: I'm living my best life. Also, we we pressurized the airlines. So we used Unitwist is the brand. It's a South African company. um They make connectors they will use their pop, but you can use it with polycop, which is like a plastic pop.

jamie peacock: It's like cheap pecs basically doesn't have the aluminum layer. um Every one of them was hand tight. Do you know many leaks we had?

Curt: Oh, how many?

jamie peacock: One, and that was from a pneumatic fitting that screwed in that was faulty.

Curt: Oh, wow.

jamie peacock: Like literally every pipe just got pushed in and tightened by hand.

Curt: Oh, impressive. Nice.

jamie peacock: That is it. And the system seals. And is rated at 20 degrees up to 76 bar.

Curt: That's sick.

Curt: Oh, that's up there.

jamie peacock: Yeah. At 70 degrees C, it's rated to 7 bar.

Curt: ah

jamie peacock: Because you can use the pipe for hot and cold. So at 70 degrees C, it's only rated for 7 bar.

Curt: Wait.

jamie peacock: Yeah.

Curt: Oh, it's 70. Okay, I thought you said 7s.

jamie peacock: Yeah.

Curt: Yeah, was like, how does that work?

jamie peacock: No, no, 70.

Curt: Okay, 70.

jamie peacock: Yeah.

Curt: Wow.

jamie peacock: it' It's a really nice system. It's fucking cheap. It's ridiculously cheap.

Curt: Huh. Wow.

jamie peacock: Yeah, I need just to still put in my little pipe of justice for dropping the condensation out of the air that I literally just jerry-rigged it into test it the other day because it's been a case of get stuff going and then fuck off for four days.

Curt: Cool.

jamie peacock: um So I'm looking forward to actually being back at the shop and being able to tackle these tasks today. Like I've got admin stuff coming out of my fucking ears that I need to to deal with because this month in seven days I get to pay the government a bunch of money.

jamie peacock: So I need to get all the paperwork for that dealt with.

Curt: Oh, God, end of the month is in seven days.

jamie peacock: Yes.

Curt: How does that always happen?

jamie peacock: I know.

Curt: Okay.

jamie peacock: I need to email a customer and say, oh, cunts, do you want your parts this month?

Curt: Yikes.

jamie peacock: Guess what? Too fucking late. The machine's busy until end of the month. It's going into next month. Sorry. You need to be more, you need to plan better, but get fucked. So, no, quite a literally, plan better.

jamie peacock: it's I'll probably only get a cure from them in the new month.

Curt: I want...

jamie peacock: They'll ask for an RFQ on the fifteen

Curt: I want to cut that up for like, I want to make an infomercial for you. Where it's just, you're like, Jspec Tactical or Jspec Engineering. We have, our motto is, fuck you, cunts.

Curt: Like, oy, cunts, fuck you, or whatever.

jamie peacock: Yeah, I don't like stupid people. Oh yeah, that's the diesel guys. They are testing my patience to an extreme level.

Curt: Fair.

jamie peacock: um

Curt: ah

jamie peacock: I see you got a keyboard.

Curt: Yeah. Dude, from our good bunny channel,

jamie peacock: If I didn't need a numpad, I would get a keyboard.

Curt: ah hold ah Hold out is all I'll say for that. I think it's in the pipeline is a a bigger one.

jamie peacock: Nice.

Curt: And honestly, I will i was like... You know what? I do like a full-size keyboard with a numpad, but I'm kind of getting used to this. Having like another foot of desk space because I have a little 60% keyboard now, which is lovely.

jamie peacock: Fair enough. I've got a I've got a 2.1 meter long desk so I'm not too worried.

Curt: I can bring...

jamie peacock: Yeah, i heard it

Curt: Listen to lovely... Oh, I made it better now. um

jamie peacock: Better, what did you do?

Curt: i ah So i am it has um blue tactical switch. By the way, anyone we I'm talking about a keyboard that is made by Not Suspicious. It's our good friend Ken.

Curt: I think he's doing a production run of them. He was kind enough to give me basically a like product sample. um I send him a pen too, I offered to pay for it, but he is a gentleman.

Curt: um Anyways, it is a sick, well-machined keyboard. Super happy with it. um But I ordered with blue switches and I wanted a little more foggy sounding. So i immediately started modding it. I kind of told them that I'm probably gonna start tweaking with it and just pissing around with it. So I opened it up and I put foam in the back and tape and keys. And there's all kinds of dumb little mods you can do to keyboards to change the sound profile. And it changes it wildly. And I wanted to because this keyboard is machined out of like a unibody chunk of aluminum.

Curt: So it's like, and it's got a giant chunk of brass in there to add weight. So it's just like, it's super good for like a nice dead, dead sounds.

jamie peacock: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. OK.

Curt: anyway I'm very happy with it. It's all like backlit, and all pretty. And yeah, it's, a it it scratches the ah the OCD side of my brain because ah it pairs with, ah actually it's in my Google search, but it's a software called Vial, V-I-A-L.

Curt: um And it lets you control, I mean, you could write firmware ah because the firmware he's using is also open source. ah So you could write firmware to change the RGB layout on your keyboard. But this one lets me tweak my lighting in my keyboard to match the lighting in my PC and the lighting in my mouse. So now everything is cohesive and it's teal and purple, which is kind of my deal. I like those colors and it all matches and it makes my brain so happy.

Curt: I'm like, I'm so happy that everything now matches. So anyway.

jamie peacock: Yeah, my keyboard is blue, the lights, except for the arrow keys and the WASD, those are orange.

Curt: yeah

Curt: Yeah, my old one was red, and I couldn't change lighting, and I didn't want red PC lights, so I just lived with it, but yeah.

jamie peacock: All my PCs red, this is the Darth Vader PC. It used to be my workshop PC.

Curt: Ooh, scary.

jamie peacock: um But yeah, i like my cherry blues.

Curt: I do too, but I also want, I want to i want to embrace the thock, the creamy sound, the, reduce the clickiness, so, yeah.

jamie peacock: So I had Cherry Blacks, and I really liked that because it was the same tactile, but no noise.

Curt: Yeah.

jamie peacock: and that And then I poured a brandy and coke into my keyboard, and that's my new one.

Curt: Ooh.

jamie peacock: Yeah. I need still sort a keyboard out for Cole.

Curt: Yeah.

jamie peacock: That's a later in the month problem.

Curt: Yeah. Yeah. Fair. So anyways, folks, go, uh, go visit not suspicious. Sign up for his, his shit. Buy his keyboards.

jamie peacock: and I just did actually...

Curt: They're super cool. Oh yeah. Okay.

jamie peacock: I want to know what they're going to run me because they look...

Curt: Yeah.

Curt: Uh, I don't think they'll be cheap. Yeah.

jamie peacock: No, they won't. I know that, but that's fine.

Curt: They, yeah, they're, uh,

jamie peacock: Are they soldered in switches or...

Curt: These ones are soldered in switches.

jamie peacock: Yeah.

Curt: um I was debating, you can buy these little things. So you can basically, I was thinking about modding it so I could put in just like, so I could do switch swat switch swaps without having desolder them.

jamie peacock: Yeah.

Curt: I don't know. i'm ah I'm resisting as hard as I can to not go down this road, to just be happy with it and use it.

jamie peacock: Yeah.

Curt: That's what I'm trying to do. So yeah, I'm failing miserably if you, like which will come up in my Google search, but anyways.

jamie peacock: Yeah.

Curt: ah

jamie peacock: Oh, I see that. Um, okay.

Curt: but

jamie peacock: What Yule adventures did you go on, Kurt?

Curt: That stems into the freaking exercise thing. Because the guy that I messaged, like it came up on Marketplace at such a ridiculous price. I had to look at the pictures to make sure it wasn't...

Curt: like it was like It's about a two... I actually think here in Canada, new, it sells for $7,000.

jamie peacock: Jeez. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

Curt: The piece of equipment. that That was brand new when it was made. um Now on the used market here, they they probably would go for like... a thousand, you could probably get a thousand bucks for it.

Curt: um And he had it listed at 350 Canadian, so i was like, what the fuck like something's wrong. um So I looked at the pictures and they were like, they were scammed pictures from the internet. So I was like, this is already fishy as hell. Like, he's like, these aren't the actual images. They're just copied.

Curt: was like, Hmm, my spidey senses are up. So I was like, fuck it. Caution into the wind. So I'm like yeah, I'll take it. And then I didn't have a method to move it because it wouldn't fit in a truck. I mean, technically it would it'd just be really annoying. anyways, I forgot that you can do this lovely thing here. And probably to most listeners, you can just go rent a U-Haul truck. Like I rented a 10 foot cube van for like a hundred bucks and drove it like I stole it out there and then filled it with all this shit, drove it back to my house, pulled it all out, drove it back and dropped it off.

jamie peacock: Yeah Nice No, not that expensive Nice

Curt: And yeah, it cost me, I think a hundred bucks and 20 bucks in gas. So not cheap, but like for a drop of the hat decision.

jamie peacock: on expensive

Curt: Yeah. it was like I was like, was like, yeah. So anyways, that was, that was my yeah U-Haul adventures. Yeah. when i When I moved, I rented like a ginormous one. And then just, I remember like driving, we have like a big kind of ring road around our city. um And I would have to drive there to my old house, to the new house.

Curt: ah And just like the thing would shake so bad. i was like certain I was going to die, but I didn't, this one was better.

jamie peacock: uh yeah we don't really you can rent trucks but it's a fucking ball like a lot of places yeah you can rent trailers everywhere you can rent fucking trailers like you go to the the home depot top store like lero merlin and they can rent trailers you go to build a horse you can rent trailers like anywhere you go you can rent a fucking trailer

Curt: So anyway, it's just,

Curt: Oh, okay. That would work too. Yeah.

Curt: I don't think anybody rents trailers here because I don't think anybody really has like, aside from trucks, no one has hitches. And if they do have a hitch, they don't have a ball for it. And then you, yeah, it's usually like, yeah,

jamie peacock: Everyone here has fucking hitches on their vehicles because, well, reasons. um

Curt: that makes sense.

jamie peacock: Yeah, a lot of people have boats or caravans or little trailers. So like everyone has a, Marbaki doesn't have one, but the Land Rover has a hitch. um Danik's old car had a hitch. Like everyone's car has a fucking hitch, yeah.

jamie peacock: Because a lot of people will buy a small car that can pile the family into and then buy a little Fenter trailer.

Curt: I think that,

jamie peacock: It's a little fucking box trailer that you can load shit in and go on holiday.

Curt: Yeah, see, that's the smart way to do it. We live in the land of giants, so anybody will buy a truck, and their truck is so high they have to use drop hitches, so they're like $400 hitches, and then people just steal them, so they won't keep them.

jamie peacock: Yeah.

jamie peacock: Yeah.

Curt: And then anybody else that buys a trailer is like fifth wheel. it's never like It's never an efficient trailer like you spoke of.

jamie peacock: Yeah.

Curt: It's like, let's bring an entire home with us. Anyway.

jamie peacock: Yeah, the fifth wheel stuff's wild. Like, that, yeah, fucking hell. None of that shit, yeah.

Curt: Yeah. Yeah. Actually, this guy that I bought it off, he had, ah it was his, it was his fifth wheel and it was a, or sorry, no, it was a trailer, um but with a toy hauler in the back.

jamie peacock: Like. Yeah.

Curt: And that's where you had this machine stored.

jamie peacock: Ah.

Curt: But so yeah, you just drive your quad right in where your bed is. And it's like madness.

jamie peacock: Yep. Yeah, I've seen those. There's a YouTube, Tiny Boat Nation, and he's got a toy hauler. So he'll literally load his kayak and three boats into the back, like little boats.

Curt: Hmm.

jamie peacock: And then, and his e-bike or whatever, then they go to a lake and go fish the lake.

Curt: Yeah, and if you like to do that, sure. well um I shouldn't throw shade.

jamie peacock: Yeah.

Curt: it's like Whatever.

jamie peacock: Yeah, people are weird. um Oh, yes. I changed my tool order in my machine.

Curt: Oh, okay.

jamie peacock: which has posed a minor issue. So in my controller, if you call a tool that is in the tool library of the machine, but not in the carousel,

Curt: Okay, yeah.

jamie peacock: it defaults to it loads tool one, but runs with the tool you've called offset.

Curt: oh Oh, that's not good.

jamie peacock: So it's a problem I've known about. I've just kept a really short tool in tool one, so it's never been an issue.

Curt: Sure, sure.

jamie peacock: Also, approve out my program. So like you'll hit cycle start. What the fuck's it doing with that tool? That's not meant to be there. Oh, wait, I forgot to load the tool.

Curt: Right.

jamie peacock: But I redid my tool order. So now I put tool one at spot.

Curt: Hmm.

jamie peacock: So tool 16 is always my probe. Then it was tool one was spot one, tool two was two, tool three was tool 69, my face mill. Tool four was my rougher, tool six was my 12 mill finisher.

jamie peacock: I wanted them the other side of the carousel so that when I called them, it always put a pocket. So I put them in reverse order. So if i I always know what tool is there. If I call tool 69, it puts pocket three for me to change as my hot swapping positions.

jamie peacock: so that I don't have to now figure out what tool I must call to get that pocket for the changeover in position when i want to swap a tool.

Curt: Gotcha.

jamie peacock: So like the ones that are always in there that I know that I can easily identify, wanted those to be ah appropriately positioned.

Curt: Yeah, I gotcha.

jamie peacock: So what I'm going to do is i'm going to move one back to spot one, and then two to spot 15. So that two, 69, five and 12 are in those spots that align my swing tools effectively.

Curt: Why don't you just make the jump to the light side of calling by name?

jamie peacock: But

jamie peacock: nope, that's way too much effort.

Curt: Why? Oh, it is so much better.

jamie peacock: Nah.

Curt: It is so much better.

jamie peacock: Nah. I know my tool numbers.

Curt: but

jamie peacock: um I named a tool Jeff on the Basso. So I was like, showing the guy how to set tool. like, no, give the tool the name Jeff.

Curt: yeah

jamie peacock: Diameter, all that shit.

Curt: Nice. Nice.

jamie peacock: Yeah. No, I don't know. I'll see.

Curt: Because then if you call like a tool that isn't in the carousel, it just goes, it's not in the carousel. And you go, oh, my bad. Like, Like, I name all my tools. Let's just say chamfer mill.

Curt: And let's say chamfer mill isn't in the carousel, but it's in the tool table.

jamie peacock: yeah it won't

Curt: Like, it knows it's not loaded. and It's just like, oh, but it's in the table, but it's not loaded in the carousel. So, you're fucked.

jamie peacock: okay because my i'll check that i'll name some tool i'll make some new tools and name them i'll name jeff and fucking culbert or whatever put one in and then call the wrong one and see what happens and if that works then guess what i'm reworking my tool library yay

Curt: Yeah. Yeah.

Curt: Yeah, try it.

Curt: Or, yeah maybe maybe it's just your ah yeah, maybe it's just your ah dealer didn't, like, yeah.

jamie peacock: think it's just my controller yeah i think it's just the controller is configured uh because i don't really want to rework my tool library and then have to rework every single program ever that i've made

Curt: Totally. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Curt: Yeah, you'd have to like write a script because it'd be super tedious to go through and yeah.

jamie peacock: yeah it would be horrid especially when you started tweaking feeds and speeds as well yeah also

Curt: Yeah.

Curt: Yeah, yeah, no, I, yeah, I, I could see that being quite an undertaking.

jamie peacock: one of the upsides from this week's endeavors on site is I got a tiny little regulator for my for the clamping of my pneumatic vase it's a super cute little regulator so ah liberated it off of the machine

Curt: Oh yeah. Come on.

Curt: Okay, was wondering, did you just find it or did you just be like, we don't need this anymore.

jamie peacock: I just found so it was it was primed into the taper purge And I'm like a fuck that eight bar taper purge.

Curt: ah okay.

jamie peacock: I don't give a fuck. So I ran a it had a six mil line.

Curt: ah

jamie peacock: I ran a formal line. So it's a little bit restricted. Fucking good enough.

jamie peacock: I want the regulator, but putting it back in also a little inline valve that came off of the old greasing system.

Curt: Oh, boy.

jamie peacock: When I stripped it, I'm like creep in my bag fucking going home with me.

Curt: Hmm.

jamie peacock: That I hate those greasing systems. You can see the hardened bits of grease in the lines.

Curt: Yeah, I think Haas played that game. and i think they Are they back to Greece now? I don't know. They keep flip-flopping.

jamie peacock: I don't know. I think they're back to oil. It's like an oil cartridge, if i'm not mistaken.

Curt: I don't see the point. I've never heard a convincing argument why Greece is better, but don't

jamie peacock: So like Mazak use grease, but they use a very specific grease from a very specific supplier with a very high pressure pump.

Curt: Anyway.

Curt: Okay.

jamie peacock: Yeah.

Curt: Yeah, I guess i would do it.

jamie peacock: Yeah. Thing is, like, the amount of grease need to put in a bearing is next to fuck all. It is, like, next to nothing.

Curt: Yeah, I suppose. so

jamie peacock: um And if you're over-greasing, it's problem, but also if you're not flowing grease, then the grease hardens in the lines.

Curt: Yeah, yeah.

jamie peacock: But I also harsh use literally the threads on a bolt as a restrictor. Like, the grease flows around the threads, like, what the?

Curt: Right, yeah.

jamie peacock: I get it, but, like, come on.

Curt: Yeah.

jamie peacock: Like, that's a little bit savage for my

Curt: Yeah.

jamie peacock: Okay.

Curt: I mean, I guess grease does stick to rails better in like vertical orientations and stuff, but yeah.

jamie peacock: oil more regularly. Like for for woodworking applications, for woodworking applications, oil is the only fucking way to go.

Curt: I say just pop the shit out of it. Yeah.

Curt: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. For certain.

jamie peacock: Like I had to pull one of the blocks off to get the fitting off.

Curt: Hmm.

jamie peacock: The machine is pretty well engineered, I'll give them that. um It's got a screw on the side to push the block against the reference edge. And then I pulled the bolts, gently tap the block out didn't have a carriage support. So I took it off gently.

jamie peacock: cleaned it a bit because there was grease built up everywhere swapped the fitting gently put it back on and reassembled the z-axis because the fitting was fucked because at some point someone put grease nipples and like fucked up half the fittings yeah so you know the joys of retrofits but yeah all in all that retrofit actually wasn't that fucking horror just the vfd being fucked was a problem

Curt: Yeah, yeah.

Curt: Yeah.

Curt: Yeah. Yep.

jamie peacock: But now they need to decide. Let's either spend 20,000 to 30,000 around on a local VFD or wait a week and buy one for 10.

Curt: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

jamie peacock: So that's that's their decision. I'll phone them and speak to them today about it and be like, well, I'm not coming through. It's fucking pointless if we don't have VFD. That at least lets me have some more time in my workshop to actually do useful things.

Curt: Yeah.

jamie peacock: But yeah, I got a very well on Friday.

Curt: Yeah.

jamie peacock: Yes, on Friday afternoon. No, Friday, Saturday, Saturday. I touched base with Carl. like, hey, what's cooking? cause he said he was going in on Saturday to work to get an order out. So I phoned him just to check how things were going and got a whole update on all the stuff he's doing. i'm like, this is fucking magic. I'm not at the workshop and work is going out the door.

Curt: Sick. That's cool.

jamie peacock: And yesterday, like he got three more fucking orders.

Curt: that

jamie peacock: Like, this is awesome. Like, should have done this long ago.

Curt: Nice.

jamie peacock: It is, yeah, it's quite quite fun having someone at the shop when I'm not there and shit still at least continuing to a certain degree.

Curt: i was a I was thinking about you a little bit today because i one one of my little ones was sick, so I just stayed home today. so i wasn't Same thing, if I'm not in here, nothing nothing happens. So i was like, yeah, employees are nice. Employees are robots, but employees are a little bit easier to get doing multiple things. Yeah.

jamie peacock: Well, Cole's keeping two of the lathes. They booked out till the end of the month. Like they are running flat out on two of the late.

Curt: Oh, that's awesome.

jamie peacock: Like we're changing over today. We've got a material delivery today. Then we're changing over to run that job. That's going to run. We're going to make two and all thousand parts in the next seven days. and they're rigid tapped, which is going to be amazing.

Curt: Oh.

jamie peacock: um So like i've I've proved out the program. We now need to buy some spare taps that we won't need because we bought them. But if we don't buy them, we'll need them instantly.

jamie peacock: So I'm going to order some taps today, and then I bought a floating tap head, and it just, yeah, the the good way just hasn't got a problem.

Curt: Absolutely.

Curt: Ooh, yeah.

jamie peacock: It's rigid taps M10, no problem, it's steel. So we're going to get that all set up today. And then it can just run with bar puller and all that fun shenanigans. And Carl was saying he was having some miss pulls, so i need to just check what's happened with the bar puller.

Curt: it total aside, an M10, that still blows my mind that these machines can do that kind of tap, like mill, lathe, whatever, like that, you can tap that kind of pitch or like diameter.

jamie peacock: Yeah.

Curt: Like, have you put a M10 tap into a piece of steel and turned it with a hand tap?

jamie peacock: Yeah.

Curt: Like, it's a lot of force, like a lot of force.

jamie peacock: Yeah, it's not. Yeah, it is. Yeah, so we'll see.

Curt: Yeah.

jamie peacock: When I did them, I was over drilling the hole little bit, but I have ordered the appropriate drill since. I'm still over drilling the hole a little bit.

Curt: Yeah.

jamie peacock: I think we're drilling at 8.7 instead of 8.5, which just gives it a little bit less explosion factor.

Curt: Sure. Yeah.

jamie peacock: But yeah, we need to get that running because they actually needed that part number first, but didn't communicate it.

Curt: Totally. Yeah.

jamie peacock: So I'm like, I'm not telepathic, motherfuckers. Figure your shit out. Like... You told me you need two and a thousand of each of these by the end of the month. You didn't tell me which one you needed first.

Curt: These are all perfect sound bites for my ad I'm making for you.

jamie peacock: So.

Curt: Yeah.

jamie peacock: A hundred percent. Yeah. So dealing with ah yeah yesterday, Cole was getting rather frustrated. He's busy trying to run production and getting the same customer. Can you quote on this?

jamie peacock: He's busy running production. and Where's the quote? We're waiting for the quote. He's dude, I'm running your production. Pick what you want join your production or your quote? Like, I can't be quoting all day.

Curt: yeah

jamie peacock: i need to be running your actual fucking parts. But yeah, he's also of the opinion. Pay these cunts and fuck off. But yeah, we will see. We will see what happens there.

Curt: Yeah, not fair.

jamie peacock: Now, for the most important topic of the day.

Curt: Fair, fine.

Curt: the Flames in the Hardinge?

jamie peacock: You have a fire starter.

Curt: I do.

jamie peacock: Yes, what happens?

Curt: I've only lit a fire in the Hardinge... A few times, like maybe less than five. And normally it's just like a little candle flame. um When I first started this game, I was terrified of oil and titanium because I was like, everyone on the internet told me that it'll instantly burn down the full moment I turn my back on it.

Curt: And it is true. Like if the oil and what happens every time that's happened is the chips bind up, they bird nest, they flip like the coolant, the dust,

jamie peacock: Yeah. Yeah,

Curt: nozzles that I have pointing at the work out of the way so the oil is not pointing at anymore and then titanium just heats up instantaneously and it gets like red hot and then if there's any resident residual oil it just burns I haven't lit the titanium on fire yet that would be terrifying ah so I try to keep the chip bin rather sparse but yeah every time I've lit ah first time it was like a little candle on the end and I like poop my pants and just quickly point the oil back at it and it just it just washes it out it's not flammable enough to light

jamie peacock: oil. Yeah.

Curt: Um, there's no, no mist really with the processes I do. So anyways, this time, same thing happened. It was, it was machining and it flipped the coolant nozzle out and I just looked over and there was a good amount of flames, um, on the bar stock and on the tool. And i was like, Ooh, like enough where I was like, I was like, okay, I know my extinguisher is close at hand. Um, and then anyways, I just pointed oil nozzles back at it and just it washed cause it was burning in a chip nest. So I was concerned it was going to catch the titanium.

Curt: um Anyways, oil put it back out, and then I just quickly looked all around in the chip bin to make sure there wasn't one just like smoldering in the back that was just going ambush me. So yeah, ruined another good pair of pants.

jamie peacock: So when are you getting a fire trice?

Curt: ah like A fire chase would never click over for that. It would just click over when I need it. Yeah,

jamie peacock: Yes. Yeah.

Curt: i've yeah I would...

jamie peacock: But you don't really run that machine when you're not in the room.

Curt: Absolutely not. No, it's the one thing i I don't run it when I'm not here. So it's the cycles are too short.

jamie peacock: Yeah, then it's fine.

Curt: There's not enough.

jamie peacock: Yeah.

Curt: I'll run the mill all the time, but it's being blasted with coolant.

jamie peacock: Oh, that's cool. Yeah.

Curt: Yeah. Like it's even if the chips light on fire, like I'm pretty, pretty certain nothing's going to go south.

jamie peacock: No, you should be fine with that.

Curt: um i would Knock on wood. Tomorrow is going to like burn my house down.

jamie peacock: Yeah.

Curt: But yeah, every time that every time there's flames in the hard engine, I'm little scared.

jamie peacock: Yeah.

jamie peacock: Yeah, just wear brown underwear.

Curt: So.

jamie peacock: Problem solved.

Curt: Oh, just don't wear underwear. yeah Oh, no, then you really ruin pants.

jamie peacock: Oh, there we go. Well, no. Then wear brown pants.

Curt: Don't wear pants or underwear. yeah

jamie peacock: There we go.

Curt: and No one works here.

jamie peacock: You can look like a bird.

Curt: I can work naked. so

jamie peacock: Just walk around shitting everywhere.

Curt: What? Like a bird.

jamie peacock: Yeah, birds.

Curt: ah

jamie peacock: Yeah, birds are virtually shitting.

Curt: i ah Yeah, no dice.

jamie peacock: Yeah.

Curt: so Yeah, I don't know. I've seen like some like DIY fire trace systems, and I literally Googled it, and I'm like, what am I doing? like If I'm going a DIY something, it's not going to be a fire suppression system because I don't want to have false confidence in a freaking...

jamie peacock: Yeah.

Curt: And was like, no, no.

jamie peacock: Yeah. No, not a fuck. um Yeah, you know, yeah, that's the last thing you want to fucking you want to not work when you need it to work.

Curt: I did think about buying those. They have those like, have you ever seen those balls? They're like little balls.

jamie peacock: The spheres, yes, I would hang one they're not super expensive, just hang one in the machine.

Curt: The sphere, I was did think about buying it. No.

jamie peacock: If it ever gets out of hand, it's at least gonna save your house.

Curt: That's what I figured. I'm like, but, and then I was like, well, what is the likelihood of one of these like accidentally going off and then just fucking everything up? And I'm like I don't know.

jamie peacock: I would assume those are pretty safe.

Curt: Or. Yeah, or like what's my false confidence, but then again, I'm like, well, if I had that, I still wouldn't. I'm not going treat it like a fire trace and just be like, good night, see you later.

jamie peacock: No.

Curt: link So anyway.

jamie peacock: Yeah, but you're also running quite low RPM, so you're not misting, so explosions are not really problem.

Curt: Yeah.

Curt: No, exactly. No, the light doesn't spin all that quick. and Yeah. yeah

jamie peacock: Because that's thing, like the Swiss is they're doing many thousand RPM atomizing that oil and then yeah, you get like a, you get nice stoichiometry going and then a spark and ba-boom.

Curt: Totally.

Curt: When I talked to Sile, I was going to initially run oil, like neat oil in the X5, just because I love oil for tool life and for finishes.

jamie peacock: Yeah.

Curt: And ah on one hand, i wish I kind of wish I do, because, yeah, i I would get better everything for finishes and tool life. But at the same time, the like stress of that, because I've atomized coolant in there like continuously, because I'm running at 20,000 RPM.

jamie peacock: Yeah.

jamie peacock: Yeah.

Curt: twenty thousand rpm Yeah, so that would be boom for sure.

jamie peacock: 16K, yeah. Yeah.

jamie peacock: No, that would be a problem. Like, that would be a big fucking problem.

Curt: yeah yeah

jamie peacock: That's the problem.

Curt: Yeah.

jamie peacock: Like, with your high RPM stuff, you atomize a lot of fucking coolants or a lot of oil.

Curt: Yeah. Yeah.

jamie peacock: You know? I need to try and find a a storage device for water at the workshop because filling a bucket takes, like, four years. So I want to find a tank that fits in the shower and then fill that water slowly.

jamie peacock: Then when we want to fill a bucket of water, it takes like four seconds to just open a big-ass valve and dump water into a bucket.

Curt: Oh, right, right. Yeah.

jamie peacock: Because Carl filled a bucket and it took him like five minutes to get halfway full.

Curt: oh

jamie peacock: so i was like, no, the water pressure's low there. Fuck that. We will store water.

Curt: Yeah, she said Jamie Watertower.

jamie peacock: 100%. I'll buy a drum. I'll just go buy a drum if I have to. Because trying to find a water tank is proving a little bit difficult. The prices just went through the roof of it. They used to be $860.

Curt: Oh, really?

jamie peacock: They're now like $1,200. I'm assuming straight over moose, oil prices, plastic prices.

Curt: Oh.

jamie peacock: Or greedy motherfuckers, straight over a moose, oil prices, plastic prices.

Curt: Yeah, probably.

Curt: More likely.

jamie peacock: I reckon it's that one, yeah.

Curt: Yeah, that's more likely. Yeah.

jamie peacock: Um, cause I would like to also just fill that with RO, just run my RO filter till it's full and then switch off the water to the RO. And that way we've always got a lot of RO on hand for Anno cause I still need to move my Anno setup.

jamie peacock: Like I haven't even given that much thought. i'm going to build a custom workbench and then just move the the whole setup one day.

Curt: Right, yeah. Yeah,

jamie peacock: Yeah. But not today's problem. Today's problem is going and running production and doing admin shit.

Curt: yeah. yeah

jamie peacock: I need to reconcile invoices and, uh, what's that, fucking, uh, transactions to invoices.

Curt: Well,

jamie peacock: and it's going to take me all of, like, 20 minutes, but I've put it off for seven days already.

Curt: I get that. I do the same. Yeah.

jamie peacock: I fucking hate it.

Curt: The least fun.

jamie peacock: I hate it so much.

Curt: Yeah.

jamie peacock: Um, I kind of want to move my PC to the workshop just so that I can do that today, but... I'd also rather not.

Curt: Yeah, fair. Yeah, fair.

jamie peacock: It sucks. So I need to go, I need to print something this morning for Danica. We have to go to the fucking post office to get things certified.

Curt: Hmm.

jamie peacock: What the fuck? I'm trying to certify document.

Curt: That is a little little weird, for but I get it. I get it. Makes sense.

jamie peacock: Yep. Oh, this is going to be a short episode, Kurt. What is in your Google box?

Curt: What time is it? I'm not even looking at the...

jamie peacock: I've been in an hour.

Curt: Oh, yeah, we're we're coming up, sure.

jamie peacock: we're a little bit of hit 52 minutes we're ahead of schedule.

Curt: Well, you got to get going doing stuff anyway, so it's not a bad time for today.

jamie peacock: Yeah. What is in your Google box?

Curt: don't know.

jamie peacock: I'm

Curt: My Google box is full of fucking...

jamie peacock: gonna assume number one had to do with one of your kids.

Curt: you can

Curt: A little bit, but then it also had to do with me because me and my wife were talking. So it it says, why are mountaintops cold? And like, like if someone asked me that, and like, i i have a good idea why mountaintops are cold, but I'm like, but why are they cold? Like it can be like 30 degrees. And then if you just logically think about it, you're like all warm air, like hot air rises. Shouldn't mountaintops be a little bit warmer than you would think? And like,

Curt: It's like, they're not that high, but yeah, they are that high. Um, that the, it's, it's called adiabatic, uh, adiabatic cooling.

jamie peacock: There's less of it here. Yeah.

Curt: And it's basically when the air gets thinner, um, it holds less heat and it just gets cooler up there. Even if with the rising heat, there's it's too far of a rise.

jamie peacock: less of tear

Curt: Um, Yeah, and the temperature differential as the heat rises up the mountain doesn't make up for the adiabatic cooling. And even though it's actually closer to the sun ah with the less atmosphere, it doesn't it doesn't equate because the distances are too far. I didn't actually know that. I kind of like innately in my head was like, oh, because the air is thinner, right?

Curt: But like if you put a gun to my headd head and ask me why, I'd be like, I think that's why. and so anyways, that's why I looked that up.

jamie peacock: Okay, interesting.

Curt: um Yeah, because I don't want to feel like... ah I just realized I just don't exactly know why that happens. um Anyways, a bunch of keycap and switch shit that I'm very much trying to avoid doing.

jamie peacock: Shock and all.

Curt: I'm just going to try to push that down the road. of Fool's gold, once again, trying to figure out what...

jamie peacock: Movie?

Curt: Sorry, what?

jamie peacock: The movie?

Curt: Oh, sorry, no, just the like the actual like nickname for pyrite stones whatever.

jamie peacock: The actual, yeah. Yeah, all right.

Curt: Yeah, Vile software, which is actually software for your keyboard. You can like ah real-time map different things. ah Keyboard mods, because why not? And U-Haul, because I had to fight with them. And that is the worst example of a site, I will say this.

Curt: ah When you buy something off U-Haul, they will give you, i think it's 10, almost 10 screens of like, do you need to add ah flat tire protection?

jamie peacock: G 28.io

Curt: Do you need to add a trailer? Do you want to add moving blankets? Do you want to hire people to do this for you? Do you want to, it's like, holy Christ, just let me check out already. Anyway, rant off. What's in your Google box?

jamie peacock: g twenty eight io we we're looking at the summit

Curt: Hmm.

jamie peacock: um

Curt: Hmm.

jamie peacock: Masso all the things because just googling the Masso documentation over the weekend, like getting the e-stop chain to work with external e-stops, figuring out the wiring thing, you got to move the optocouplers from the one board to the other board for some fucking reason.

jamie peacock: uh yeah all sorts all sorts of fun ship googling uh for masso um vfd manuals yeah because fucked vfds uh m12 industrial connectors they are fucking awesome i did not solder a single wire on there because it was all wired with m12 screw connectors so like the four five pin m12 connectors everything was wired with that it's like the standard one that screws onto a proxy

Curt: What are...

Curt: Okay. I

Curt: and don't even know what those are.

jamie peacock: Yeah, that fucking magic. So these are these things everywhere. Like the the solenoids had a five pin to three two pin adapter. So it takes zero volts, 24 volts, and then three signals.

Curt: Yeah, yeah.

jamie peacock: So I literally managed to rewire everything without soldering a single wire. because it was all there already.

Curt: Cool. Oh, that's nice.

jamie peacock: Yeah, like, awesome industrial standard, like, the wires coming out the end, you can plug them, like, daisy chain them together, and you get the same fucking thing out there. Really, really cool. And then we're looking at toe jacks.

Curt: Cool.

jamie peacock: You can toe jack locally. Kind of want to buy one for fun.

Curt: Hmm.

Curt: Yeah, they'd be useful. It would be nice to have.

jamie peacock: Yep. I might need to toe jack the good way up a little bit when we put the feet in.

Curt: Okay. Yeah, yeah.

jamie peacock: Although it's precariously on some 2x4s currently.

Curt: Plenty stable.

jamie peacock: But I ordered material for feet so that we can put it on actual feet and level it. That's going to be... I think Carl was starting to turn them and then he got a bunch of orders. So he's not turning them anymore.

Curt: Yeah, fair.

jamie peacock: So we'll just... When there's a gap, we'll do them. I think we'll have a gap beginning of next month. That seems to be the thing where nothing, nothing, nothing till the 15th and then Avalanche.

Curt: Right, yeah.

jamie peacock: So at least now like going into next month, we have 5000 parts to shoot. But that's the beginning half of the month, run that production. And then we know we're done with that by halfway through the month.

jamie peacock: Not that it pays particularly well.

Curt: Yeah.

jamie peacock: But it pays better than a kick in the head. so

Curt: I say, yeah, it doesn't pay well and you have to do lots of it, but hey. okay

jamie peacock: It's, ah it pays well enough. It's above, it's above the like, bare minimum rate. And it's recurring work, we've got four months worth orders. So we may as well just fucking let it run.

Curt: Oh, okay. Yeah.

jamie peacock: Like the good way you set it up, and it just runs, it does like 500 parts a day.

Curt: That's nice. Yeah.

jamie peacock: That's call needs to figure out his balance now between running machines and feeding machines, like you kind of need prioritize feeding the machine to keep it full and running. um yeah, it's a tricky balance to figure out. I used to manage it relatively well where I would prioritize feeding the lathes over running the mill.

jamie peacock: Like I could just pause the mill, go put a bar and hit go and then it's running again.

Curt: Oh, gotcha.

jamie peacock: It's not standing waiting for me to finish what I'm doing. I would prioritize reloading bars.

Curt: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

jamie peacock: But yeah, you'll figure that shit out as we Yeah, we've got little stainless job going on the M code today.

Curt: Yeah. Yeah. Fair.

Curt: Cute.

jamie peacock: Yeah, 316. Yay. Six diameter. Tiny little job. It's like Kurt job.

Curt: Yeah. A curt job. Yeah.

jamie peacock: Kurt job.

Curt: Yeah.

jamie peacock: Cole did them on his lades last time.

Curt: yeah Fair.

jamie peacock: I'm nah, put them on the fucking Emco. Don't fuck around. Like, just let it auto-run on the Emco.

Curt: Yeah.

jamie peacock: We've got the bar feeder. We've got everything. Just put the bar in, hit and it's 220 parts. Or 200 parts. It's like It's a fucking...

Curt: Mm-hmm.

jamie peacock: It's a small order, but hey, all the little orders add up.

Curt: No, totally. Exactly.

jamie peacock: Oh, God. I think I might just force my PC to go to the workshop today. Just gonna fucking suck. At least I have most of my tools with me because I was on site.

Curt: Yeah.

jamie peacock: They're still in my truck. I can take the shelving off of my wall and take the shelving with to put my shelf up for my PC.

Curt: Okay.

jamie peacock: Because I want the monitor at the standing heart so that when I stand in front of my desk, I'm not looking down at the monitor.

Curt: Oh, fair, fair. Okay. Yeah, yeah.

jamie peacock: So I've got an adjustable shelf thing that I like.

Curt: Yeah.

jamie peacock: So I'm just going to pull it off the wall and just start stripping the workshop down to the bare essentials. Oh, God.

Curt: I forgot back in the old day when we had a computer lab that was full of CRT monitors, one of our labs had all the CRTs in the table with a glass top. It was actually not that bad. I mean, it was probably terrible for your posture, but you just kind of sit there and naturally look down, and it was it was right there. it was It was great for looking at, like, sites that you weren't supposed to because nobody could see your screen.

Curt: But...

jamie peacock: We used to, we still have shops like that. A lot of the like home accessory shops have, it's all owned by the same company, but they've all got their screens under the desk. So it's a glass like window in the desk.

jamie peacock: And then they do, do, do with the keyboard and mouse.

Curt: Yeah.

jamie peacock: But yeah, like in, yeah, our computer labs at school wicked.

Curt: Yeah.

jamie peacock: We had CRT monitors. I think it was six or eight people per desk and all the monitors, like the backs pointed in.

Curt: Yeah.

jamie peacock: Yeah, the good old days.

Curt: Yep. Yep. Yep. ah

jamie peacock: uh i took a crt monitor home one day only to fuck theate the vga cable up when i got home i carried the thing like i twisted it i think it got stuck somewhere was something i pulled it and it was kinked and that's it fucked didn't work yeah after carrying it like a kilometer

Curt: Yeah.

Curt: How did you fuck a VGA cable up?

Curt: Oh, so you can pull a car out with those. Yeah.

jamie peacock: Yeah, you can't kink them, apparently.

Curt: Yeah.

jamie peacock: Like, I heard the cable make noises when it kinked.

Curt: no

Curt: Ooh. Okay. Yeah.

jamie peacock: Yeah, I carried it like a kilometer and a half, only for it to not work.

Curt: Oh, bummer. Yeah.

jamie peacock: Yeah, the fucking good old days. Jeez. No, CRTs. Those are the days. My monitor from 2010. My monitor died few months twenty ten um wanted to died a few months ago

Curt: Okay.

jamie peacock: Like it literally had been going for 15 years that I've been using that monitor LCD monitor.

Curt: That's awesome. Yeah.

jamie peacock: And yeah, finally shut the bed.

Curt: Yeah.

jamie peacock: I think I paid less ah for the monitor in my workshop than I paid for that monitor

Curt: That's awesome.

jamie peacock: for my 27 inch monitor.

Curt: Yeah.

jamie peacock: ah I need to add links here. Oh sweet. Well, where can people find your things? Good.

Curt: Uh, you can find me and my things at confounded machine.com should have, uh, the next batch of pens. Oh man, time is flying. Uh, I want them to be available for this Friday, but something tells me that's not going to happen.

Curt: So anyways, uh, confounded machine.com sign up for lottery, sign up for emails, whatever you want to do. Just look at our wares on our sites. It links everywhere. How about you, Jamie? Where can people find your, your stuff?

jamie peacock: you can find me at jspeceng.com there are links there to my Instagram which is the day-to-day happenings of jspec engineering it's jspec underscore engineering there's a link to nautical work holding um there's a link to the websites yeah sorts of stuff also the flux are on their way back from the UK all my stock that was in the UK is coming back on the 25th I need to go pick it up from the airport

Curt: Fuck yeah.

jamie peacock: Yeah, so all my stock will be back with me and then it's literally cheaper to ship it from here than from the UK, which is kind of fucking wild.

Curt: Cool.

jamie peacock: So then I'll do a recon on that and update all my stock holdings. And then, yeah, I can can ship locally. Yay. Or ship from locally.

Curt: We.

jamie peacock: Also, we're doing a run of the V2s at some point. I hope the material is still in my driveway. ah I didn't see it when I got home yesterday and it's too long to go into my truck.

jamie peacock: So it's a bit a bit annoying.

Curt: Nice.

jamie peacock: Yeah, so I need to just chop it in half, put it on the truck, and then chop it all into pieces at the workshop so that I can load it with a spindle gripper. Also, we will discuss, yeah, we've got some stuff stuff to discuss in the after show.

Curt: Ah, fair, fair.

Curt: Ooh, excite.

jamie peacock: me that's very exciting um yeah i'm looking forward to running that job also i saw a really cool thing in uh one of austere's videos where they hold their they hold their stock for up one let's say aligned in x and then when they flip it they hold it in the soft in the same jaws but lower down and why because now so the part is rectangular

Curt: Oh, okay.

Curt: Oh, sure, sure.

jamie peacock: So you yeah you hold mighty bouts there, and like talons or whatever in your jaws, and then you hold it lower down in a step. i was like, that's fucking cunning.

Curt: That's cool. Yeah, I like that.

jamie peacock: That does require a rotary gripper.

Curt: I like. that

Curt: m

jamie peacock: The gripper that can rotate, which we'll see.

Curt: Yeah.

jamie peacock: stuff uh but yeah anyway thing thank you everybody for listening uh if you enjoyed the after show please consider liking subscribing all those fun things and uh yeah we will see you guys next uh next week also uh go comment on taps and patience and tell them the funniest thing would be to hand over all the nautical work holding things just straight to nautical work holding because aj has a competition going on right now

Curt: Stuff and things.

Curt: I haven't even listened the latest ones.

jamie peacock: Yes, he wants to put some wild shit on there instead. Harrison was giving him shit at the end of the podcast. He's like, weren't you just going to give those to Jamie? And he's like, nah, we're going to do some funny stuff first. Send in comments.

Curt: Okay. Well, if that's the case, then AI is really good. We can open up an OnlyFans for those guys. And I'm sure we can like dub them into something.

jamie peacock: I'm pretty sure we can. I like this plan.

Curt: i'm sure I'm sure that's not illegal at all.

jamie peacock: I think we'll put it ajajaj.com.

Curt: I don't, can you buy that one? i don't know. I should go check it out.

jamie peacock: Yes, that one is available.

Curt: Anyways. Okay. Is it okay?

jamie peacock: Yes. Anyway, thank you, everybody. Now that we have put evil thoughts into ah into the ether, we'll see you guys next week.

Curt: Take care. All.

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