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Preston Ward – MTN Physio
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This week Drew has Preston Ward from MTN Physio on the Tricer Podcast to discuss the importance of fitness in hunting. The guys have a great conversation about physical fitness and the major components to consider when training for a backcountry style hunt. Drew and Preston also discuss the important of mental fitness and how preparing mentally can keep you on the mountain for longer. This is a great show with lots of quality information.
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PRESTON WARD – MTN PHYSIO
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Transcript
Introduction, Prayer, and Guest Introduction
00:00:01
Speaker
You are listening to the Tricer Podcast, where we talk all things hunting, gear, and the great outdoors. Before we begin, let's start things out right and put God first. Lord Jesus, I thank you for Tricer, and I ask that you can use this podcast as a way to bring joy to all of our listeners. We lay Tricer and this podcast at your feet. Amen. All right, what's up, dude? How you doing? I'm doing well, Drew. How are you?
00:00:26
Speaker
Really good, man. I'm excited to have you on. Today we got Preston Ward from Mountain Physio on. And I just feel like Preston has to be like one of the most popular dudes in the industry right now. I feel like everybody who's like somebody is like friends with this guy or rooting for him and cheering him on. And Preston started Mountain Physio.
Mountain Physio Program Overview
00:00:46
Speaker
It's this awesome program to help people get in shape for hunting specifically. I'm sure other things as well. I'm sure if you have like a
00:00:54
Speaker
I don't know if you're a guy who likes to go out and take pictures of animals and shoot them. I'm sure you can shape you on that too, but mostly focused on hunting and the things you need to be in shape for that. And for me, that's really exciting because I spend...
00:01:07
Speaker
five, four to six days a week in the gym. I ride mountain bikes now. I can't run and mess my knees up. I do a lot of hiking. It's always focused on so I can get in shape for hunting season. I even eat cleaner now. I'm doing meal preps. There's not so much jack in the box I used to. I'm excited to have someone like you on who's specialized in this and actually getting in shape and is just so well-respected in the industry.
00:01:37
Speaker
That's super nice of you, Drew, and very nice of everyone else who says those kind words as well about me. But it's been really cool to see actually, I think. So I started personally mountain physio. So I'm a doctor of physical therapy. I started my practice five years ago. And it's really cool to see now as we've gone into this one-on-one health coaching in our academy, which we've always done. We're just really ramping it up now.
Holistic Health Philosophy
00:02:02
Speaker
to see all the support. I mean, you guys have been super supportive of us and we've got dozens of other companies that we were just with and podcasts and all sorts of things. We got a lot of cool partners. We got an awesome giveaway right now. Tricer, you guys are part of it, which I really appreciate for everyone that subscribes to our Academy, but just kind of cool to see. It's really fun to see. I really feel like this industry is awesome and
00:02:26
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for whatever, as we were kind of just talking just before we started this, I just feel like this is kind of my my calling in life as goofy as that kind of sounds, but I'm so passionate about health and, and more than just like exercise and fitness that way, but more healthcare, specifically for outdoorsmen, hunters, athletes, so. And I like how you say that, like health care, like not just, it's not just walking lunges, it's not just cardio, it's just like,
00:02:57
Speaker
I don't know. I don't want to call it a stool. There's many legs to this thing to hold it up to make you be in shape for hunting season. I talk about a lot.
Preston's Background and Practice Building
00:03:06
Speaker
There's a mental side of it as well, which I think I get a lot from doing. I do a lot of functional fitness. Not CrossFit. It comes out that hardcore, but it's very similar. Circuit training type fitness and a lot of things that really suck. In the middle of that, I'll tell myself, imagine you're packing out an elk or imagine you have to go one more rid. Most of the time, it's not packing out the elk. Once the elk's down, I'm going to find a way out.
00:03:27
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imagine you have to go one more ridge cause he's over there. You know what I mean? And there's just so many more aspects to it than just being a runner or just being a power lifter, right? Like you can go squat, you can squat 300, you know, 300, 400 pounds all day long and I'll put you in the hills and I'll smoke you cause it's just a totally different animal. And I like that you're focusing on that and like this well-rounded athlete versus, you know, just one area.
00:03:51
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's a lot of, and right now there's a lot of, I mean, even from, I guess when I even started five-ish years ago, like I said, five, over five years ago now, there was a big push then for health and fitness. You had Cam Haynes and you had a lot of people kind of doing those things. Now we see so many different programs out there, lots of flashy marketing and stuff. And so I had to kind of
00:04:14
Speaker
back then I had to kind of jump on a soapbox and I hate saying that, but ultimately what you were seeing is a lot of these, a lot of influencers, a lot of people who like exercise, who probably have some good input to say, we're saying, hey, if you do this one thing and it hurts here, then you have this going on and this is the exercise to fix that one thing, right? And that's very, it puts people like, it puts people
00:04:40
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in these categories where that may not be a hundred percent correct. And so what I did is created my practice specifically to help guide that, to kind of have that knowledge, everything, what I've done, my residency, my certifications, everything else on is to really kind of diagnose and help guide people the right way.
Tailored Fitness and Health Programs
00:05:00
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At the end of the day, there's a lot of good exercises and whether
00:05:03
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You know, you're a doctor of physical therapy or a personal trainer. There's a lot of good exercises out there, but really doing the right one specifically for you. Like you mentioned knee pain. Um, obviously I really dive into those sorts of things. So knee pain, back pain, shoulder pain, everything else work with specifically a lot of bow hunters and archers, uh, what the U S archery team and things like that to really help a Taylor program specifically to individuals. So.
00:05:33
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You know, I've never, I mean, I'm not 40, but I'm pushing it pretty quick here. Um, man, I started taking collagen and like, I had never been a big supplement person. Like that is the one supplement where I'm like, that stuff works. Like I, I, that has helped my knees tremendously. Um, so I don't know if that's, if you, you heard of the supplements as well, but that's something that I'm using knee pain. I'm just throwing it out there, man. Like the colleges changed me.
00:05:58
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Yeah, no, I think it's actually
Supplements and Their Benefits
00:06:00
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interesting. So my whole, again, the rationale of everything that I do is really dive through the research and the evidence. So within our new platform, our Mountain Physio Academy, there's like over 100 plus articles that I go through. And so it's very analytical based, like people, I try to dumb it down so that people can, but then I just offer those articles. And so specifically on collagen,
00:06:25
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There's an interesting kind of notion out there that collagen seems to, it seems like, and whether it's nocebo or placebo, it seems like in a lot of these studies, the people that did take collagen seem to benefit from it, but there's also those people that didn't. And so right now within the research, it's like, if you really feel like it helps you with collagen, then do it. I personally as well take it. I think it's a great supplement there.
00:06:52
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Um, I think also, um, another one that I've really been on recently, um, or, uh, really a big proponent of is creatine, not just for like muscle bulking, but more for like the cognitive functioning too. And with the mental health side of things that creatine really does show that there's some very good, uh, focus, um,
00:07:14
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awareness, things like that benefits with creatine. So I look at a lot of things of like, are we doing it specifically to gain muscle, a lot of these things. I mean, ice baths is another thing that we talk about that's huge right now, right is doing these cold plunges, which ultimately been around for, you know, a long, long time within the rehab side of things. But
00:07:38
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Ultimately, if you look at ice baths, like super powerful for the mental clarity and the focus and things like that. Does it help with maybe some inflammations and swelling? Yeah, probably a little bit. There is some stuff out there, but really for that mental side of things, like it is, I definitely highly recommend that ice bath specifically for just mental clarity, focus, pushing through,
00:08:05
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you know, hard things. And, uh, anyways, so that's kind of a random topic
Fitness Preparation for Hunting Trips
00:08:10
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though. Well, randomly on the ice bath thing, I have a buddy who like every day posts a video of him getting out the ice bath in his underwear. And I'm like, you're such a douchebag. Um, so there's a cool aspect to it too. Uh, yeah, I have not tried the ice bath thing yet on the creatine. This is totally off topic, but this kind of, we do this podcast a little bit and we'll, I'm going to, we're going to go into more structured topic after this. We'll go into the whole break it down. But.
00:08:34
Speaker
My creatine story, I do take creatine, I do the pills because I don't like the powder. When I was in high school, that was when Mark McGuire was just hitting bombs. And I remember taking creatine because that's how Mark McGuire got big, was creatine. Little did we know he was actually taking steroids, but that's what everything he created, I think, oh, that's what Mark McGuire took. That was his excuse for how he gained like 20 inches of arms in a year.
00:09:04
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Um, so I guess let's break it down. Let's break it down as I'm an out of shape dude who just drew tag of a lifetime in Arizona. Uh, actually no, it's just more harder. Let's go some more Idaho.
Mountain Physio Academy Healthcare Approach
00:09:20
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There's some more big mountain, big mountain area, harder hunt. I have nine months to get in shape for this hunt. Right. You drew the tag in January.
00:09:31
Speaker
Where do we start? This is what there's going to be. There's going to be diet. There's going to be cardio. There's going to be physical things. Let's break it down in each of those areas first, if that works for you, rather than like get in shape. I feel like you have a good structure. So let's break that down like that.
00:09:48
Speaker
Yeah, no, I think I love that idea there because, um, and I'll, I'll say really quick that ultimately our academy tailors it to everyone, right? I again, tailor these programs. So we have our structured program. So you draw your tag, you're going to want to be.
00:10:05
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prepared the best you can. So going in there, ultimately, you can spend as much time in the field, more time in the field is means more success at the end of the day. And so whether that's, you know, understanding what you need to do to rehab, whether it's on the mountain, so I'm kind of, I'll get I'll get there, but whether it's on the mountain, and you need to know what a recovery day looks like. Those are super important, too. So you don't burn yourself out, right? So you don't
00:10:33
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have an injury while you're on the mountain. So with that premise in mind, uh, everything with our mountain physio and mountain physio academy is to gear people towards specifically that longevity purposes, hunting for a lifetime.
Structured Fitness Program Essentials
00:10:50
Speaker
Uh, so there's a lot of, like I said, other programs out there that really say, Hey, go put on a pack, go do so many step ups, do this, uh, CrossFit style program, which can be good, but. You know, for some people that might be too much. And so having a specific tailor made program, uh, or, um, a program that walks you through steadily, what you need to do to get there is what's recommended. And that's what we really put together as this ultimate again.
00:11:18
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why I call it a health care platform, more than just another exercise program. I certainly as a physical therapist, I definitely recommend exercise and I do it every single day of like, you got to do these exercises because this is what's going to help. But at the end of the day,
00:11:33
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You need to have the structured program. And so what that looks like, first things is in my eyes, right? An evaluation or getting baseline measures. So baseline information to know where you drew stack up.
00:11:50
Speaker
Um, and so with that said, it's more than just strength training. I've broken it down into, um, and so one thing that's really cool within our academy is, and we were just actually up at Kefari a couple of weeks ago, um, and working with them, which was really cool to see, but we'll have a podcast out this week as well, but then also we'll have a, um, YouTube series on it.
00:12:12
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Anyways, so the whole thought of that is to really get baseline data Which is more than just strength training again more than just CrossFit style stuff You need to know how you stack up. So within our Academy you go through 25 different tests strength tests mobility tests cardiovascular tests
00:12:36
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sports specific training. Uh, so that can look like elevation gain and everything else like that. And then the mental side of things. Uh, and then one more, which is biometrics. So ultimately you want to know what your blood pressure is, your heart rate, right? You want to know a few of those things because again, health is more than just a strength training. Health is really understanding how our auto immune system, our immune system, everything, our metabolic system, everything like that is working together.
Diet and Nutrition for Hunters
00:13:08
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Okay, so we take these tests. Where am I going now?
00:13:13
Speaker
So you take these tests, you get a baseline, you go through. So cardio has got to be a huge focus, right? I think the biggest focus, actually, I should take that back. The way that I've broken it down, we know that everyone needs to have strength and functional strength. I like when people say functional strength. So you need to be able to squat. You need to be able to deadlift. You need to have shoulder mobility. You need to have shoulder strength if you're a bow hunter.
00:13:40
Speaker
We have very good numbers and we have very good data to support that if you're not at a certain percentage of your body weight for strength in your rotator cuff, then you're ultimately going to have more injuries or potentially less time in the field due to an injury of that rotator cuff, just pulling back your bow and stuff like that.
00:14:03
Speaker
So strength is all part of it mobility and then and I think that's the I think that's probably the most heavily weighted aspect of it of this what I call the mountain fit readiness score. So we have this algorithm
00:14:20
Speaker
It's called the mountain physio mountain fit readiness score. It's an algorithm that compiles all this data together and gives you this information to see how ready you are for hunting. So after you go through strength, then you go through some cardiovascular training, some different tests that way. Certainly a ruck test is in there because you want to be able to put on a pack and a make it to camp, but B when you get that elk down, you want to be able to, um, put on that pack and make it back to the truck as well.
00:14:48
Speaker
Um, and then, uh, so I think first we go through that strength section, uh, cardio, and then we certainly got to start honing in on the nutrition side of things. Um, mostly probably for weight loss, but also just making sure that you're, whether you're in the back country, you're getting the right, uh, nutrition so that you're able to have the energy to go day on day in and day out.
00:15:13
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So that's where I would start. And then after that's after you have that nutrition dialed in, then we start doing sports specific training. Um, within there, we were looking at your biometrics again, your heart rate, your blood pressure, making sure we're discussing that. And then lastly, um, within our academy, we go over rehab and recovery techniques so that when you are on the mountain, you know how to,
00:15:40
Speaker
right, tape up a shoulder or tape up your knee so that you can get back or more than just tape, but you can, you know, what, know what recovery looks like. So again, that you can spend more time in the field. So, uh, that's basically how I walk people through this after they do that.
00:15:57
Speaker
I make sure that, uh, and during this time when anyone subscribes to our academy, they get a free evaluation with me so that we can then hone in on this. So they go through this 14 week program. Then they say, Hey, I want to, you know, I want my one-on-one visit because I want to now really tailor in this program for the next three months before hunting season or whenever it is. Uh, so that's kind of, that's, that's the premise basically of what our academy is.
00:16:27
Speaker
Okay, so let's look at diet first. Let's look at diet first. What does a healthy diet, is that based on like macros? What's a healthy diet look like? What should we be eating as today's day and age?
00:16:44
Speaker
Yeah. What'd you say? Jack in the box, less Jack in the box.
Mobility and Strength for Hunters
00:16:50
Speaker
Less Jack in the box. Definitely lots more fruits and vegetables. And then obviously I'm all for protein as well. So definitely I look at your your macros. So
00:17:05
Speaker
the fats, the proteins, and the carbs. So what that looks like varies for every individual. But I think ultimately making sure that you're hitting those macro goals, but also for each individual, also getting the right nutrition, whether it's with multivitamins or specifically if you're eating lots of fruits and vegetables, or if you're eating enough there,
00:17:30
Speaker
then that multivitamin may be less important, but ultimately trying to make sure that you're having high nutritious meals, good nutritious content and stuff like that, so that you have the energy to perform, build muscle. So we could dive down rabbit holes of like, if you want to build muscle, then protein here, all sorts of things like that.
00:17:52
Speaker
for the back country, carbs are certainly good. We know for endurance sports, we know that there's a, so within, um, again, our academy, I take less of a focus on the keto diet, focus on, you know, the Atkins, what is the Atkins diet and focus on all these different diets. Like diets have their, um,
00:18:13
Speaker
They're really trendy, right? And we see that. Well, the cool thing is the carnivore diet right now. So exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So we could talk about the carnivore diet, but ultimately these diets are super trendy and you can see like they'll come and go for sure. But ultimately if you can, if you can really get, so the Mediterranean diets, another one, um, there's another one that I'm forgetting right now. That's similar to Mediterranean, but it's like the all American or something like that, which is not just hamburgers and cheeseburgers.
00:18:43
Speaker
Um, but ultimately, um, I was saying is making sure that that nutrition is dialed in. And that's what we do. And we, when we do our academy and stuff like that is make sure we dial that in. So it looks different for every single person, but I base it off of your macros.
00:19:01
Speaker
So baseline, just clean food, not junk, not garbage, not processed foods, a few eggs, some whatever, ham in the morning, some sausage in the morning, that kind of stuff, like not a bunch of carbs. Or if you do do carbs, not, you know, a bunch of sugary syrup, just Nutella or something or peanut butter on there or something, I don't know.
00:19:23
Speaker
Yeah, I'm all for I mean, I'm all for I don't think necessarily carbs are bad. I don't think anything's really, there's some bad stuff, I guess, but there's not anything really bad. But I, I'm a huge proponent of kind of a more keto style diet, fewer carbs, more protein, fast things like that. But you got to be careful with that one. But ultimately, just cleaner eating in general. And I think
00:19:47
Speaker
That's where, man, we could jump down a huge rabbit hole back to college days of like one of the issues we have in our economy really is that eating fruits and vegetables, eating healthy food and stuff is just ultimately a lot more expensive. Which is why I think we also see this push towards hunting because you can go and get
00:20:11
Speaker
clean organic meat, right? Which is super lean, healthy for you. And so I think that's really cool that we all do that. And most of us hunters hopefully have some sort of stockpile of protein in our freezers that we can live off of. But at the end of the day, like really clean, healthy eating is key for having the right nutrition and for your health.
00:20:36
Speaker
whether you're preparing for that hunt or you're just trying to eat healthy and lose weight during the pre-season and everything we'll say.
00:20:46
Speaker
all super important. And then even carrying that into hunting season, making sure that your meals in the back country are nutritious. And so we dive into stuff like how much water, you know, electrolytes you should be drinking as well as taking a multivitamin is an easy way. You can take
00:21:08
Speaker
you know different fats to be able to have those stores with you when you're hunting and stuff like that that can give you a little bit more calories more bang for your buck there so when you say fat because like
00:21:20
Speaker
I try and bring, I definitely try and bring cheeses and like salami and stuff with me on my hands. I do do like the peaks and stuff. I've just been burnt out a few times, like trying to do like the Jason Harrison, like Snickers bar and Reese's, you know, I mean, I'll definitely do some, some, uh, Fritos. But, um, are you saying like bring some olive oil or something to put it in your meals? Are you doing that
Strength Training and Injury Prevention
00:21:40
Speaker
stuff? Like what do you mean by fats? Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Add more, um,
00:21:45
Speaker
Fat, I mean, we know that, uh, um, fats have more than two times the amount of basically calories in it, um, program there. So yeah. So it takes them all of oil with you. Put it in there. Any other tricks for that?
00:21:59
Speaker
Yeah, cool trick that I learned a couple of years ago from a major bow hunter and stuff like that is he crumbles up a lot of, so he will grab a bag of chips, high fatty content there basically, and just smash them down to as small as you can get. They're super lightweight, but it also just can give you a lot of calories and fat calories throughout the day too.
00:22:26
Speaker
Like a bag of, you know, salt and vinegar chips and stuff like that, which would be this big and then pack down to about this big if it was just crowns and that's could be, you know, plenty. So anyways, stuff like that. Yeah. And I was not knocking Jason Harrison on his backpacking meals, but he had a video come out and this is probably before and things have changed a lot in the last six years, but, um,
00:22:49
Speaker
And when I first started backpack hunting and Jason be like, Oh, it doesn't matter what you eat, you know, just get those, get the calories in you, you know, that's why I do this. And I did that on a few hunts and by like day, like six or seven, like I'm just crashing. I don't like it. My body doesn't like it. Maybe other guys can do it. But I can only eat so many Snickers bars and so many Reese's on a hunt. And I try and bring a little more. You could still, there's still ways to eat clean on a hunt. And if you go from, um,
00:23:15
Speaker
Especially like someone like, I don't want to say like me, who's really healthy. I'm not very healthy. I mean, I eat good, but I still do throw, you know, some donuts in every once in a while, whatever. But if you eat clean, 90% of the time you go on a hunt and you just eat garbage on a hunt where you're burning all kinds of calories, like, it just doesn't work. You got to find a way to, on your hunt, eat clean, almost publicly what you're eating at home on that hunt.
00:23:39
Speaker
Yep, exactly. So, actually, and that's part of again our Academy when so our Academy is very educational based again analytical if you're analytical you're going to love it because dive through again the research but also kind of give you measures and stuff like that.
00:23:56
Speaker
Um, but ultimately what you want to do is really replicate what you're going to be eating, you know, and start that weeks before you go into the back country so that your system can get used to that. So if you're going to be eating, you know, Snickers bars and a lot more of this fatty content and stuff, uh, then you want to really try to, um, adapt to that so that when you are hunting, it doesn't weigh you down. Cause that's ultimately what happens. Same thing with me. Like I do a lot of backpack.
00:24:25
Speaker
hunting as well. Um, and man, when I get there, like if I eat, if I eat and I love the peak refuel meals, I love them. Um, but if you eat, if I eat a couple of those, like I am so like just weighed down because of the content of protein, which is really good. But I mean, some of those meals have so many calories in them that I'm just not used to. And so I understand that you got to get calories and that's all important. But at the same time, you got to really prepare for that.
00:24:55
Speaker
Most of us just aren't used to eating that dense of food in that period of
Balancing Weight and Cardiovascular Fitness
00:25:00
Speaker
time. So sometimes you're just cramming calories in, but
00:25:03
Speaker
I think, you know, I personally do better when I'm really trying to eat similar to how I have been. And so that's why it's really important to actually like, again, start working on what you're going to be eating multiple weeks, two weeks before you're going to be hunting so that you can really kind of, um, adapt, uh, your, your body to that, your system to it. Really. Okay. So we got the diet. Let's look at.
00:25:31
Speaker
We'll do cardio last. Can you say cardio is like the most important? We'll do cardio is the last one we're going to do. Let's look at, you said two things. You said mobility and strength. I never understood the importance of mobility until like the last few years. And now like I am a stretcher, I am
00:25:46
Speaker
I go to depth on my exercises. It's so huge for my mobility. I used to have major hip pain. I don't have it anymore. And it's all because, mostly because I just started to do things to full depth and sort of stretch things out. I started to do different exercises to get the mobility there. I absolutely hate Bulgarian split squats, but I love them.
00:26:07
Speaker
I feel like those have been like one of the things that helped me a ton. So what's such a mobility first before we get to strength? I think that's, I almost, I don't want to say mobility is more important. I think they're almost like go hand in hand, but in my mind for me, I think mobility is more important than strength for me physically in the field. So let's talk about mobility. What does that look like? Yeah, no, I think I love the split squat too. That's one of my absolute favorite exercises that I prescribe people.
00:26:35
Speaker
But mobility ultimately is motion in or in that joint, right around that joint. And so it's more than just stretching, you know, holding a muscle where you're just trying to get a little bit of stretch through those muscles, the muscle, muscular tendinous units, mobility is at the joints there. And so like you said, specifically, you know, if you're going to
00:26:56
Speaker
I think full on goblet squats are right. A goblet squat could be an excellent mobility exercise because you can hold the kettlebell. It doesn't need to be anything crazy. You can hold the kettlebell, you know, 35, 40 pounds, 20 pounds, whatever it is. And you can get down into a deep squat and really open up those hips. That's an awesome one. You can do that.
00:27:19
Speaker
Um, you can do that if you need to. Yeah. But, um, do it a little bit more. Um, ultimately I like the Bulgarian split squats. Awesome. Because then you can get a little bit of that, um, stretch through that hip flexor and quad as you're going down too. Um, I think a lot of mobility.
00:27:36
Speaker
So there's a, there's a term called, um, which we discuss in depth in the, in my academy here is controlled, um, articular rotations cars. If you've heard of those hip cars and stuff like that, where you're basically rotating that around that joint in multiple directions. So if you look at the.
00:27:55
Speaker
You look at the shoulder here, right? It moves basically in three planes, three degrees there, um, almost 180 degrees in every single one. So it's a very mobile joint, your hip as well, very mobile, less mobile than the shoulder. Um, but it's ultimately using controlled motions as you rotate that, um, joint in multiple planes. So that's where,
Injury Prevention During Hunts
00:28:20
Speaker
um,
00:28:21
Speaker
Um, that's where using exercise bands can be extremely beneficial. Uh, so like, for example, if you're familiar with the fire hydrant exercise, uh, if we're talking the hips specifically, um, on all fours with the band around your knees and then lifting your knee up in the air, that was if it was a dog, right? So that fire hydrant motion.
00:28:42
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Um, excellent because then what you're doing is you're rotating with the band. And then as you're coming back, you're controlling that motion in a, in multiple, you know, in multiple planes or in a rotational plane. And so mobility, extremely important for the back country hunter.
00:28:59
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for the hunter in general, whether you're getting into and out of trucks, a side by sides, four wheelers, you're just hiking, you're hiking over deadfall. A huge, I'm a huge proponent of mobility exercises for both the lower legs, the body as well, the spine as well as the shoulders and everything.
00:29:17
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Um, and that's a huge section of our academy. So there's multiple tests you can actually look at to see how you stack up. And we have some pretty good numbers or measures, I should say metrics to say you need to be at this percentage to be within normal, within normal reasons, within normal limits. Excuse me. Yeah. And I think one that I've really underestimated for a long time too is like ankle mobility. I feel like that has been really big for me too, is that ankle mobility and like,
00:29:46
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getting that depth of their ankles too. There's, there's a lot of strength there and I even try it in a lot of my exercises. I try and do, um, I'll actually switch out. I do goblet. I use goblet squats. I tend to switch out to a sandbag just cause I feel like it getting better ankle mobility with that sandbag or even some of my, um, like remaining deadlifts. I'll even use a sandbag for that. And I feel like it just helps on my ankles. Like it kind of hit the stabilizers in there and just, uh, I don't know. I don't know why I'm bringing that up, but just, I feel like the mobility has been so big for me and being stronger in the back country.
00:30:16
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Yeah, I think ankle mobility is a great topic that we can cover that's really important. I really like to get on those Bosu balls and everything like that those half balls basically and because mostly for balance and everything. One thing that we do a lot of
00:30:34
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is we sit, you know, we walk in a tennis shoe basically all year long, and then we put ourselves in a really stiff boot. I don't personally love stiff boots for that very reason, because I'm not used to a stiff boot. Now, if you train with a stiff boot all year long, then it's probably going to be okay. But
00:30:51
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it's really important to actually strengthen your ankle and not, not just talking about the banded rotations and stuff like that. But really, if you don't do that, like, and if you put the ankle, the band around your toes and you pull in and out and stuff like that, that's a good way of just strengthening up that ankle, but also standing on one of those, uh, BOSU balls or anything like that, um, without shoes on. So you can really stabilize your ankle. I think the boots
00:31:17
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most important for stabilizing that upper ankle, we're going to say. Um, but really strengthening your foot is super important as well. Otherwise I see a lot of people who come me or come to me who call me up, who have a lot of foot pain, plantar plantar fasciitis, fasciopathy, uh, other injuries like that, that they want me to help them with and rehab.
00:31:38
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If we could really just make sure
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that we put in some time and work into strengthen our ankle, um, versus just, you know, putting a boot in there, heavy boot with an orthotic and things like that, like really put the work into your ankle as well, which is hugely important. I, um, would love to be able to hunt in like my trail runners, but I am an inking ankle rolling mofo. Like I just find a way to roll an ankle and I sprain up. Like I.
00:32:07
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I wear a leather boot now, like a heavier leather boot because I just roll. I don't know what it is, but I don't know if it's me. I don't know. I don't know if it's me just getting negligent or getting tired, but I find a way to roll my ankle and now I wear like a six to 10 inch boot, depends on what I'm running. But yeah, I wore like a hard scalpel for most of my stuff or I'll go to like a mountain extreme when I'm colder weather. Especially when I know there's going to be snow and stuff where I can slip on. I just went to a stiffer boot because I just can't not roll my ankle. I don't know what it is.
00:32:35
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Yeah, no, you're absolutely right. I mean, especially if you're a person that's prone to it, rolling your ankle, it's super important. Again, that's, that's why we have our my one on one coaching and tailor made programs and stuff that way is because when people have these specific impairments, which everyone does, which is, which is really exciting for me to be in this arena here. And to say like, Hey, let's really dial it in for your ankle. But anyways, is
00:32:59
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If you're prone to that, then exercising it's super important, but I am a huge proponent of definitely get a, definitely get a boot that protects that ankle. And maybe even, you know, drew for you, it might be, Hey, let's get you an extra ankle brace or anything else like that to support it. Um, so that we don't cause any of those injuries. Cause again, success in the, for the back country hunter for the hunter in general, all comes down to just time in the field. Um,
00:33:26
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Um, there's some other things that can help you be successful and stuff, but ultimately time in the field. And so my whole purpose is to eliminate any injuries, make sure we rehab, recover, we train properly so that you can spend more time in the field. So, okay. So mobility is very important. Um, let's go into strength training.
00:33:48
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How important is string training? I find that I have to eat like crazy. I have to put down over 3,000 calories a day to gain weight. I kind of bulk in the off season. I have to fight hard to get to 175.
00:34:03
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And by the time I'm done with hunting season, I'm down in the one, you know, pushing one 56, you know, 160. I just, I burned some calories. Um, maybe not that little last year, but I think I got only one 64. Um, so I do eat a lot to get for me to gain size, but I can tell you that the bigger I get the less, uh, like cardio I have in me, like running gets harder. Um,
00:34:26
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So it's almost like a double edged sword. Getting really strong and big isn't necessarily a good thing, right? It doesn't transcend into being able to hike a million mountains. It might look good on Instagram, but just being super jacked doesn't mean you're gonna be able to hike stuff. So let's talk about strength. How important is strength?
00:34:45
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Yeah, so where we start within my program is specifically with strength because I do think that, and I pair strength and mobility together. So strength and mobility is its own section. And I
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specifically think that strength is weighted at about 40% of your overall score. So when I talk score, I talk this mountain fit readiness score, the scoring system, this proprietary algorithm that we have,
00:35:13
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is about 40% strength and mobility. You need to be able to carry yourself. You need to be able to carry packs. So deadlifts, squatting, again, shoulder strength specifically. I work again with a ton of bow hunters and making sure that you have your strength specifically to your body weight is super important to prevent injuries. And so- What do you mean by that? Like I could bench press myself?
00:35:39
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So benching is one, but a benching is one measure that we haven't, you know, benching, squatting, deadlifts. I got my shoulder rebuilt last year. It was, it took me like 12 months to recover. It was the worst. I tore my labrum and got pinned all the way around. It was the worst. Um, I feel like I'm pretty much fully recovered now. I'm pushing weight around again. What do you mean by be able to lift yourself? What does that mean with your shoulders? What does that mean?
00:36:05
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So there's other, so there's multiple tests, right? There's a benching test that you can test, but ultimately what it comes down to, um, benching pushups, uh, those sorts of things. Um, but ultimately what it comes down to is your, is really your rotator cuff, rotator cuff in general. Um, most people are going to have problems with their rotator cuff and most people, you know, end up do having issues with their rotator cuff. Now, the majority of people, the nice thing as we age, as we age.
00:36:34
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And we stop building muscle. We stop, you know, we start to atrophy at a percentage or so per year and stuff like that. And there's some specific data there that I can't remember off the top of my head, but really actually fascinating data that as you age, you start to atrophy a little bit, even though like that's why strengthening is so important. So when I'm talking shoulder, when I'm talking rotator cuff specifically is having a strong rotator cuff at a
00:37:00
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at a certain percentage of your body weight. Most people are underpowered for their strength of their rotator cuff to their body weight ratio. So what that means is if they have to move around themselves, their body, other things, bows, meat, animals, anything like that, if they're pushing more weight,
00:37:24
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than their muscles are capable of, then injuries are likely going to happen. Um, and so that's what I talk about. That's what I'm talking about there specifically is knowing where you stand or where you stack up is extremely important specifically for that rotator cuff. And ultimately at the end of the day, it's get that rotator cuff as strong as you can, because I haven't seen anyone complain of having a really strong rotator cuff. I've seen a lot of people complain though of having too weak of a rotator cuff.
00:37:54
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Gotcha, gotcha. Okay, so keep going on strength. What are we looking for strength-wise? We want to be, like, brought out guide? Is bench much a weight? Or where are we looking for strength? Or is this a full-body type strength? Full-body type strength. So, again, what I'm super... Well, again, I guess what I should say is,
00:38:18
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One of the reasons why we built our academy is because there's no, there's no data out there specifically for hunters saying, Hey, you need to score at this percentage. That's why we built our algorithm. That's why we built this MFRS is what it's called.
00:38:33
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is because ultimately it gives you a number of how you're going to stack up. So strength looks at, again, ankle mobility, excuse me, leg strength, so quads, hamstrings, glutes, those sorts of things, back strength, core strength, shoulder strength. So those are just some of the numbers, those are some of the values or some of the, I guess, tests that we look at that look at a full body strength measurement.
00:39:02
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And so I mean, deadlifting is a great example, right? I believe that the number is like two, two times or even two and a half times your body what you should be deadlifting. Now, one strength for your back. So that's going to be strengthening your back glutes everything else right there.
00:39:20
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with a deadlift. Um, but another measure is looking at the endurance of your back muscles, because we know that if you can meet a certain number, uh, so many minutes of holding specific positions, then your incident
00:39:37
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incidents, excuse me, of back pain decreases. That's important for you as a hunter carrying heavy weight, going to the back country. The last thing you want to do is have an injured back where you can't make it out. So that's what I talk about from strength is it's not just how much are you benching? That's definitely a component. But also, how's your back? How's your core? How's your
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shoulders? How's all these other things that make up our strength number?
00:40:05
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Yeah, I like that. I think on the, this is kind of a little bit off topic and off topic, on the carrying heavy weight in the field thing. I think there's this big push to be like, Oh, I carried out half an elk and you know, one, you know, one trip. I'm a four trip guy for an elk. I'm like, okay, we're gonna do, you know, Heinz one trip, then we're gonna do the front and the back shop and another trip. You know what I mean? And I think that there's something special when you're tired to not trying to overdo it in the field.
00:40:35
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That's when you really get hurt. That second pack out is when you really tear your knee or you roll an ankle or do something because you're trying to do way more than you should. You could do it. I did an elk in three trips and you just feel it for a long time. I think an elk is a four trip animal. At least that's me. I could dell the 400 or something pounds. I can freaking bench press a bunch of weight. I just know that
00:41:03
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That's a lot of weight to be carrying on your back and have shifting on you and unstable ground and a great way to get hurt. So I don't know. I don't know why I'm going with that, but I'm kind of saying like kind of putting it out there.
00:41:15
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No, I think it's, I think it's a great conversation. So, um, which is, again, I keep referencing back to our Academy because really I feel like we've built a comprehensive healthcare platform. So we even go into like, this is where you should pack. This is where you should load your packs. This is what, that's what we went up to go far and stuff. This is where you should load the pack. This is where you should be carrying that weight.
00:41:38
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Uh, and really I like to break the backpack up into four different zones, which you can look at our YouTube video and again, um, some of the other stuff, but ultimately subscribe to the academy because then we really dive into this is where you should be carrying it. So, um, what I mean by that is, um,
00:41:54
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Anyways, there's a lot more to this program than just like exercise again and just like, Hey, do this exercise program or do this lift this much weight. But there's numbers that we really want to see how you stack up. And then a lot of other companies that are supporting us as well, who are saying, you know, this is anyways, some of our podcasts and stuff. But the reason why I bring that up specifically with the elk there is definitely knowing where to pack that weight in your pack is super important so that you don't have back pain so that you don't again,
00:42:23
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uh, you know, uh, basically overdo it. Um, and I, I will say specifically when we talk about, you know, you said blown out your knee and things like that, twisted an ankle. Um, if we look at the data for, I've done a lot of research, um, when I was up at the university, specifically with ACL injuries, if you look at skiers and ACL injuries or just anyone, even football players in ACL injuries, the majority of these, um, soccer players, ACL injuries, knee injuries occur.
00:42:52
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in the last half of the game, or when you're super fatigued, you're, you're tired, the last run of the day, you're going to end up injuring yourself. So yeah, maybe you do have to, you know, maybe you do have to plan for that if you shoot an elk and you have to really kind of break it up. So you don't wear yourself out because the last thing you want to do is then injure yourself so that either you're taking time off work or whatever else it is, because you're hurt. So
00:43:20
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Yeah, and I think it's important too. Like I get in shape not so I can be like, look at how awesome I am. I can charge this mountain. You've said a couple of times talking about the longevity of a hunt and a lot more time you're out there and more successful you are. Like just because you can doesn't mean you should, right? Like just because you can pack around 70 pound pack doesn't mean you should, you know, try and get it as light as possible. You know, I don't think it's necessary on a hunt to always be going a hundred miles per hour.
00:43:49
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I think like I guess because I've gotten older right on my first you know slow down a little bit take it easy you know what I mean and you're gonna I almost feel like for me it's gonna go through everything in my life when it comes like my exercise and stuff is just
00:44:03
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It's more of a consistency thing. If I'm consistently eating well, it's much easier than starting to eat well in the end, right? If I'm consistently going to the gym, it's much easier than trying to knock out a bunch in the last two months. And standing for my hunts, if I can keep a consistent pace,
00:44:19
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You know, I'm probably gonna have a more successful hunt than I would if I was just trying to charge mountains. Cause sometimes, yeah, you want to charge, but it's like, you might be burning yourself out in the first three days and you got seven more days to go, you know? So I just kind of find it is better for me just to be more consistent in my hiking now, even taking breaks a little bit more. Um, and I think that helps me on these to have the longevity there because my goal this year is to hunt two weeks a month. And I'm not going to do that by, uh, just freaking going balls out all the time.
00:44:46
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I mean, I got that in me for a little bit, but I'm not going to do that for 14 days a month, you know, whatever that's going to equate to in a year. Yeah. Yeah. No, that's awesome. And I think a hundred percent, that's the case is again, if we think about what,
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again, what I've seen, why I'm really ramping up.
00:45:05
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Our academy, um, one-on-one coaching, everything else like that is super important is for longevity purposes. People want to, people are living longer. First of all, we're also not drawing tags until much later in our, uh, you know, much at much older ages. Um,
00:45:26
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because, uh, right. There's just so much, so many more people putting in for tags and everything else like that. But, um, anyways, so we're not drawing tags for a longer time. Um, we're aging, we're living longer, but you're seeing a lot of people wanting to continue this lifestyle. And if you do too much too soon, right, you're just going to burn yourself out from injury in and from an injury perspective, a musculoskeletal perspective. It's something that's really cool.
00:45:50
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This last year, I had multiple clients who were over the age of 60, even one into his 70s, who was going bow hunting, hunting elk for the first time with his bow. Kate called me up, said, hey, help me get there. Was able to help him.
00:46:08
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get there from a program is, you know, one on one coaching monthly, and everything else like that, where we can really help them. So that's really cool to see that people want to continue to live this lifestyle that we live, they want that clean organic meat for as long as they can have it. And so making sure that you're not overdoing it, you're not getting injured is extremely important. That's my huge focus. I always say like,
00:46:31
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kind of, you know, investing in your health right now, investing in yourself right now is one of the, is probably the greatest investment you can make, um, so that, you know, how to rehab, you know, how to recover from injuries, you know, how to do all these things to make sure that you're staying healthy. All right. Now let's get down to my, um, least favorite, which would be cardio. Uh, so I just, yeah, I mean, I love getting cardio through
00:47:01
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Like weight training. I love doing like, you know, uh, thrusters, for example, right. Or jump squats, stuff like that. Like get my heartbeat that way burpees burpees. Love doing it. Yep. I don't love new areas. I'll do burpees. I'll do man makers, you know, do all of that stuff. A hit style, a hit style type workout. Yeah. It's not, not necessarily running, right? Cause running kind of, like I said, I just, I feel like my knees are feeling a lot better, but I don't want to start running, but I answer and ride a bike. My goal is to start riding like a hundred miles a week, probably by mid may between a road bike and a mountain bike.
00:47:30
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I got a road bike and a mountain bike now. I've been riding the mountain bike like three or four days a week. That is a butt kicker. I think everything I do, like, aside from putting on a heavy pack, riding a mountain bike is just, it's going to be in shape. I really like that. It gets your lungs burning, gets you going, and it's just, and it's enjoyable for me because I like kind of, I don't want to say I like extreme sports, but I like things where I got to go down a hill and jump, you know, and have fun. Like I said, so it's kind of a cool balance for me for the cardio to be able to do that because it's rewarding for me to know that I can
00:48:00
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Once I climb this really crappy hill, I'm going to be able to come down it. So let's talk cardio. Yeah. So I think if you look at any really, uh,
00:48:16
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successful hunter, you're going to see that they put cardio at a high priority. So whether you like it or not, you need to be doing cardio. And that can look like a lot of different things through can look like just like you were saying, it can look like mountain biking, it can, you know, gaining elevation, awesome, you're going to definitely work those work your cardiovascular system, swimming, running, jogging,
00:48:45
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all sorts of things, hit style workouts, right, anything that really elevate that heart rate. And so I put
00:48:54
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if we kind of are looking at again, thinking about this, our mountain fit readiness scoring system, strengths up there. And then right next to that is, is cardio. If you look at again, the successful people, they're usually a little bit leaner, they're healthy, they're putting in some work cardiovascularly, whether it's riding a bike, whether it's rucking for, you know, seven, eight miles, just getting their cardiovascular system up there. So extremely important to know
00:49:21
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um, how you stack up that way, your cardiovascular system, um, with different tests. Specifically, I'll go through, you know, our academy where multiple tests look at, um, you know, how much, so not just putting on a backpack and rucking, although that is an awesome test and we do have some standardized measures for that, um, to say, you should be able to do this much and this much time. Um,
00:49:48
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And then the other one is your VO2 max, making sure that you are increasing your VO2 max and getting that is because that's one of the best predictors right there of your cardiovascular system and your overall
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health there. So anyways, those are a couple of things, but cardiovascular system, cardiovascular health is extremely important.
00:50:07
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I'm going to also, well, yeah, let's, let's talk about that. So the cardiovascular system, extremely helpful, or extremely important to focus on, especially for the backcountry hunter who wants to, again, make it to that next Ridge, not just that, but like, if you are, if you're hunting and you're trying to get that stock, like making sure that you can get into visit position quick enough before that buck goes in beds or whatever, anything like that. And still be able to hold the gun straight.
00:50:36
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Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. Or worse off though. Yeah. So I was going to say, sorry, I was going to say with that, this kind of dives into the next, um, another component of the cardiovascular system is your overall heart rate, right? Controlling your heart rate, um, and having, uh,
00:50:58
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Overall, most people have a heart rate, less than a hundred, a resting heart rate. Um, but that's also super important. And then, um, your blood pressure, knowing your blood pressure values can be extremely important to, uh, to know how much you can push yourself and how, and, and things like that. So.
00:51:15
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within, that's a huge part of our course. Again, where I call this more a healthcare platform because focusing on the whole system as a whole. I was at the Hun Expo where we launched our academy.
00:51:31
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And had multiple people come up to me specifically, which I thought was really cool. A couple of them said like, who've had multiple stents placed in their hearts. And just cardiovascular not, you know, had heart replacements and everything, but they're like, we still want to hunt, we still want to do this.
00:51:50
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But ultimately we can't go do a bunch of deadlifts or squatting or those sorts of things because our surgeon said like, you got to be very careful. You could really rupture one of these stents. Uh, now that's not for everyone, but for these guys specifically, that's why having a tailor made program, why I really have.
00:52:08
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again, built into every single one of my programs is a one on one evaluation where we can assess those things for cardiovascular health, fitness and tailor make a program to everyone. So anyways, that was kind of a little tangent there. But I thought it was really cool to see that and people ultimately they need that guidance. That's why I really built this platform.
00:52:33
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All right, so we talked about being able to deadlift your body. We talked about your eating. So if I were to talk about cardio, 35, what I'm, 38 years old, how, what should I be doing for like, which is like, to give us an idea. So people are listening to this and be like, wow, I'm a piece of crap. I need to do more. How many miles should I be able to run at what pace? Should I be able to do like nine minute miles, like five of them? Or what are you thinking?
00:53:01
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Um, there's a, there's a scoring system on an, on a mile basically that says, how long can you run a mile or how quick can you run a mile? Um, and it's based per gender and per age. I don't have that off the top of my head. Um, it is in my academy and stuff like that. And we go over that.
00:53:19
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Um, one thing I do know, and there's also a, like a fitness index score where you take your heart rate. Um, that also goes to your VO two max, but again, it's, there's so many different numbers that, and really ranges that your VO two max should be at, you know, X percentage, um, for you, uh, as a male.
00:53:39
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and it should be this till you're 38, 39, and then 40, it goes down. Anyway, things like that. But I was gonna say an easy measure, and this is a fun test to do. So part, I did it just the other day with this, kind of the Scouts, the youth group in my area, is putting on a backpack with 35 pounds. So a rucking test, a 35 pound pack.
00:54:06
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Um, put that on and ruck for three miles. Um, you should be able to do 15 minute miles. Um, now I had a, um, I just posted this on my stories just the other day, um, that someone was doing this and it's actually a quite a bit more difficult. You do have to actually push yourself a lot harder, meaning there's some of those miles you might be walking pretty dang quick, or you may even be doing a little jogging to get those, especially during this one. You're doing this on a track. You're doing this like in the Hills.
00:54:35
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It's, there's not any specific data out there to say you need to be gaining so much elevation or vertical. Um, so on a track, you can do that. Now to make this more, uh, consistent for hunting and stuff, definitely do it that way. You're definitely, 15 minute miles.
00:54:52
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it's going to be extremely hard if you're doing, gaining any elevation because just on a flat ground. So I want you to do that actually. And tag me and stuff like that. Um, when you do it is put on a pack, 35 pounds in 35 pounds, three miles in 45 minutes. That's a good problem. That's what I was looking for. All right. I like that. I like that. That's a good podcast. So we like to, uh, we like hunting stories. We like to end with the hunting stories. Want to hear the hunting story real quick?
00:55:18
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or real long, whatever you want to do. I don't care how long it is. Give you a hunting story. Doesn't it be your biggest animal? It could be the one you miss. I don't care. But the one that you're like, I like, this is a good story.
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And I think, God, man, that's actually, I was thinking of,
00:55:37
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So kind of, I was going to, I was going to mention this. So this is the story that just comes to mind is a couple of years ago. It's nothing anything, nothing crazy, but my brother and had a cow elk hunt and my, his son, my nephew had a cow elk hunt as well. Um,
00:55:54
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It was a late season hunt and we had to, we were here on the Wasatch and stuff like that here in Utah. And it was, there was a lot of snow on the ground. So anyways, we get into position and they ended up shooting two cow elk. Um, and that wasn't anything crazy like that.
00:56:12
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So anyways, we go break down to cow elk and we have a sled. So I carried a sled up knowing I know right where the elk are. You know, my brother Taylor, my nephew Stetson, I'm like, I'll carry up the sled. You guys carry the guns. We'll get into position. They're going to be right here. We're going to shoot them. Ends up happening like that. We shoot them. They end up shooting them. Um, we go break them down. So we get up to these cows and they're some pretty big cows. Like I shot one actually a few weeks earlier and
00:56:41
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We called in all the reinforcements like hey guys, I just shot a cow. Come help us. We get up to it. And it was a smaller like it was a smaller cow. And I was like, Oh, we could probably call off some of the reinforcements. So just funny, funny things like that. We break down these two cows. And that takes us a few hours to get them down and stuff like that. We quarter them out. We should have deboned the meat. But now the issue was,
00:57:06
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We're putting now four limbs on a sled, like a toboggan. We're putting four limbs, or excuse me, God, what's that? Now eight limbs. Now I have two L, back straps, everything else like that. We are carrying a hide down because we wanted to tan this hide for my nephew.
00:57:24
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And we're down, like we're in some steep, steep country. Like, so you can see where this is going. Like this is, this is the whole thing that I was going to say. Like it's much better to, we should have definitely left half that meat there and came back or even more or put it on our packs. We've gone a different way.
00:57:39
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So we're going down this steep hill and we have two guys just trying to like hold back the weight of this thing. And we've tied it on. And so like this thing weighs, it weighed like four or 500 pounds. It weighed so much. And we were just trying to hold back the sled from running the person in front over as we're trying to make our way through the scrub oak and everything. It took us like to go a, to go like a half a mile.
00:58:06
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for where the car was down a super steep slope. It was like three and a half, four hours or something like that. It was ridiculous how long it took us because we would get going and sometimes we would get going and that sled would literally just toboggan over the next, like it was dangerous. And so I definitely wouldn't recommend that, but I don't know, it just got me thinking of like hunting stories, carrying out elk,
00:58:33
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uh it's probably worth it to take three or four days to do something like that but a cow elk so nothing crazy but a cow elk a couple cow elk that was one of the most wild like one of the most strenuous uh cow elk hunting you know getting
00:58:50
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meet elk meets awesome. We should never have had to work that hard for a cow elk especially with the just aches and pains that we went through when we had people again, holding the sled back walking backwards just trying to not let this four or 500 pound sled go down to the freeway. It was it was insane. Like it was it was nuts. But we ended up we ended up shooting five of them in three days over there this year.
00:59:16
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I was sore. I was like, it was, and they just died. I mean, a couple of them weren't terrible, but none of them were easy. Yeah. It was just, they always like, it was like one of them. Yeah. I just did none of them were easy. It just, they don't change you. If you never packed one out, you got to do it at least once. That's why I've just done it enough. Now I'm just like, you know, just take my time. I'll just do, you know, take it. I, I, I'm a believer in hindquarters, a hindquarter by itself.
00:59:43
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go to there and I'll do the fronts, the back straps, maybe some tenderloins in there, good to go. I kind of make it like a half, the back half of the oak, the front half of the oak are kind of what go together in my bags. Yeah. We just did a, like I said, we were just up at the CAFARU headquarters a couple of weeks ago and did a big podcast and filming and everything for our course. And we were talking about that specifically, like how to load your pack and
01:00:08
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for elk and deboning and all sorts of things like that. It was, it was a pretty fun one, but, um, yeah, crazy packing out an elk. I've done it a handful of times with myself too. And it definitely is something you're like, Oh gosh, like it's a lot of work. You're just like, I hate you. I hate elk.
01:00:26
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And those cow elk hunts are fun because they're just meat hunts, but at the end of the day, I just love elk meat. But man, that one will go down in history as one of the hardest things. It shouldn't have been. It was, like I said, less than a half a mile. It was extremely hard and just kind of wrecked us all. That's awesome, man. Well, that was a good podcast, dude. If you want to sign up, where do we go? Where do we find you?
01:00:55
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Mountain Physio Academy, so that's M-T-N-P-H-Y-S-I-O, so mountainphysioacademy.com. That's where everything is housed right now. So that's our academy. You can sign up for appointments. If you really want to sign up for physical therapy appointments, then you can go to mountainphysio.com. I have a bunch of my new kind of programs up.
01:01:21
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at mountain physio academy.com. So we got our two websites there at mountain physio academy.com. You can sign up for the one on one coaching. Again, exciting thing for me is I just barely went to full time doing this. I've been doing this and other jobs.
01:01:38
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working at the universities and things like that. And so I'm super excited to give 100% to Mountain Physio, which I'm super pumped for and really get to follow this passion of helping other people. And so I'm excited. So definitely if anyone has questions, mountainphysio.com, mountainphysioacademy.com or on Instagram. My Instagram handle is MTN underscore PHY SIO. So Mountain Physio, give me a follow, send me a DM, anything like that.
01:02:07
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Happy to jump on a call with you, um, and go over anything related to your health and make sure that you are as healthy as you can be for hunting season, uh, or any outdoor adventure this year. It's awesome, dude. Thanks Preston. Let's do it again. True. Appreciate it. I'm going to get you, uh, some 15 minute, uh, mile videos here pretty quick. I'm looking forward to that. All right.
01:02:31
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