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E181: Sherese Walker Bingham Part 2
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Sherese Walker Bingham took her two well-trained and protective German Shepherds for a walk on December 12th, 2012. Not long after she arrived to a local park, she was found shot. Was it a tragic accident? Did the dogs let a stranger get close enough to commit the crime? Or, was the perpetrator someone known to Sherese whom the dogs also knew intimately?
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Introduction to Part 2 of Charisse Walker Bingham Case
00:00:00
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I hope you checked out our weekly episode yesterday for part one on the Charisse Walker Bingham case. You are about to hear part two of that episode. So if you have not yet, please take a moment to go back to part one, yesterday's episode. So you do not miss out on any key information to understanding this case.
Mission of the Podcast & Listener Engagement
00:01:00
Speaker
Welcome to Coffee and Cases where we like our coffee hot and our cases cold. My name is Allison Williams. And my name is Maggie Dameron.
00:01:09
Speaker
We will be telling stories each week in the hopes that someone out there with any information concerning the cases will take those tips to law enforcement. So justice and closure can be brought to these families with each case. We encourage you to continue in the conversation on our Facebook page, coffee and cases podcast, because as we all know, conversation helps to keep the missing person in the public consciousness, helping keep their memories alive. So sit back, sip your coffee and listen to what's brewing this week.
Charisse and Eugene's Troubled Marriage
00:01:38
Speaker
Okay, so when law enforcement talked to family, they found that there was no history of domestic violence, but the family state that Charisse's and Eugene's marriage was far from being in good standing. Several years before, their marriage had become more one of cohabitation than a loving marriage.
00:02:03
Speaker
Okay. In fact, and I don't know for how long this had been the case, but at the time of Charisse's death, Eugene was living in the basement and Charisse's domain was the rest of the house. So essentially their roommates. Exactly. And their marriage had fallen apart really due to what Charisse told her family were Eugene's lies and secrets.
00:02:28
Speaker
You see Maggie, Charisse told her family that her husband had been keeping secrets from her. Like the 14 year mistress? Exactly, like the 14 year mistress. One such secret was that Eugene had lost his job with the water company after new management took over. Did he pretend to go to work? He sure did.
00:02:53
Speaker
He did. So he lost his job because they had begun routine drug tests. And the research that I completed stated that Eugene quite enjoyed marijuana. And so he was unable to pass those drug tests and obviously had been fired. But like you just guessed, he continued to leave the house every day as if he were going to work, even though he wasn't.
Eugene's Affair and Financial Deceit
00:03:20
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He was probably going to spend it with his mistress.
00:03:22
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potentially. It wasn't actually until Charisse discovered some sort of documentation, and again, I don't know what that documentation was, that showed the termination of his employment, that she realized what is what had happened. Now, you may be confused and wondering how this could happen without Charisse noticing a lack of income coming in.
00:03:46
Speaker
And again, I don't have an answer for that. I don't know if she noticed that documentation and confronted him about the lies maybe before the next paycheck would have been deposited, right? And then the charade only happened, you know, less than two weeks. Or she could just be like me and have no idea your financial standing in the bank account because
00:04:08
Speaker
I mean, that could be true. Yeah. And I didn't even think about that. That could absolutely be true. Yeah, maybe she just didn't check it. And he was responsible for it. And you know, she didn't worry about it.
00:04:20
Speaker
I also don't know if at this point in their marriage, they had kept their income separate. Oh, maybe. That's a good point too. Or even if Eugene was able to deposit money from another source. And so then leaving Cherise none the wiser. And I say this because a second lie slash secret that Cherise discovered, as she told her family about.
00:04:47
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about a year before her death was that Eugene was having an affair. And she, you know, obviously she told her family as soon as she found out. And again, this was about a year before her death. But according to her brother, Keith,
00:05:03
Speaker
Not only did Charisse find out that Eugene was cheating on her, but also found out that he had purchased a duplex without her knowing that he was renting out and the mistress was listed as the property manager. Okay. So that's why I mentioned, you know, maybe he deposited money from other sources like money from this duplex.
00:05:28
Speaker
right? And that's why she was kind of wiser. But this woman with whom he was having the affair was someone who he had previously worked with before the water plant when he had a past job with UPS. Wow. When Cherise found out about the affair, while she didn't immediately file for a divorce, and the reason why she didn't, it's unknown to me, but she did pawn her wedding ring.
00:05:56
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period. And she even told her aunt, as her aunt stated on the investigation discovery coverage of her case, quote, I'm sleeping with the enemy, end quote. And a day or two before her death told her aunt that her marriage was fake.
00:06:14
Speaker
So did police ask Eugene about all these lies? They did. Yeah, they asked him straight up about the affair. He initially tried to downplay the relationship, stating that, oh, it was just a fling and saying that Charisse had found out about the extramarital relationship about four years prior. And he said that as soon as Charisse had found out he had ended the relationship,
00:06:43
Speaker
but despite his protestations, law enforcement had something in their possession that threw his story right out the window.
Investigating Eugene's Affair Claims
00:06:52
Speaker
Phone records. Yeah. And I was about to say, they're going to be able to easily tell if this was just a fling. And I don't think you fling for 14 years. That's a long time to fling. And you're buying property with the person? Yeah.
00:07:10
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And Maggie, those phone records would reveal so much more than just a continuing relationship with this woman. Ooh, does it say anything about like the day? Oh yeah, so we're gonna get into all that. So Maggie, just to make sure that the information that they were going to confront Eugene with was accurate, they asked him, is there anybody else who had access to your phone?
00:07:37
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Because they don't want him later to be like, oh, I forgot. I let so-and-so borrow it or whatever. And he said, no, I'm the only one who has had access to my phone. Then they said, how do you explain, if this is just a fling and it ended years ago, that between the period of December 3rd through December 11th, and the 11th is the day before Sharice's death,
00:08:08
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that you spoke with this other woman more than 100 times if the affair had ended. And that's a lot of time for like, that's a lot of phone calls for that short amount of days. That's eight days. Yeah. Wow. Yep.
00:08:29
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So when they confront him with this, Eugene does change his story and no one has shown this information. And he finally admits that the relationship hadn't exactly ended like he previously said, but it was still ongoing. And then he even admits that Charisse had passed without knowing the full extent of this relationship that he had with this other woman.
00:08:55
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So the police, of course, they say, well, we need to talk to this other woman. And although Eugene initially asked if he could call her first just to let her know about the phone call that she was going to be receiving, which they denied, he did give law enforcement her name and number. So during the investigation, investigators also discovered that Charisse had
00:09:22
Speaker
three separate life insurance policies in her name. I mean, I think that speaks volumes of how safe you feel in your day-to-day life. Yeah. She had one for $200,000 from Allstate, one for $250,000 through Protective Life. And she had a new one through her new job for $410,000. OK.
00:09:54
Speaker
So, one, that's nearly a million dollars. So, do we know for sure she took these out? We do not. Or did someone take them out? Okay, because who's the beneficiary? Well, you can probably guess.
Potential Motive: Life Insurance Policies
00:10:09
Speaker
Okay, see, so if it's Eugene, it is, and that makes me feel a little bit weird about saying that she took all of them out for like
00:10:20
Speaker
She personally took them out and maybe someone took them out for her name. So now the police, they have at least two potential motives for murder, right? We've got the affair that's going on and we have the life insurance money. So they decide to bring Eugene in to take a polygraph test.
00:10:43
Speaker
But before they did so, on December 24th, 2013, Eugene actually called them with some information of his own. He had found the pouch in which Charisse normally carried her gun. And he said he found it in their home. The fact that, and I know I didn't make a big deal about it at the time, I briefly mentioned that she normally carried her gun in a sketch.
00:11:12
Speaker
But the fact that no gun pouch was found on Charisse, even though it's a seemingly small detail,
00:11:22
Speaker
It was one that had always stood out as significant to her family. Well, I think you said earlier she was a creature of habit. Yes. So she would keep things where they were supposed to go. Correct. And her gun was supposed to go on her pouch. And the fact that it wasn't makes me think that she wasn't really carrying it.
00:11:44
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That's what they think as well. I mean, for people who are not a creature of habit, I guess the best analogy I could give to this as to why this would be significant to her family is like, can you imagine unloading your dishwasher, but instead of putting your utensils in your utensil drawer, you put them where your cups and glasses go. It just wouldn't make sense.
00:12:12
Speaker
Just like you said, Maggie, they maintain that they had never known Charisse to carry her gun on her person or in her belongings anywhere without it being in its pouch. But when she was found in the park, the gun was right there, but the pouch wasn't. So their thinking was that since the pouch wasn't at the scene, to them,
00:12:42
Speaker
Just like you said, that meant that Charisse had not been the one who brought it there. They swear, swear that if Charisse had been carrying the gun on her person, there is no conceivable reason why it wouldn't be in its pouch. And the family suspicions were now growing alongside law enforcement.
Eugene's Polygraph Failure and Inconsistent Stories
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It was when police brought Eugene in for a pre-polygraph interview
00:13:11
Speaker
that they asked him about, you know, those theories that I mentioned earlier. Like, what are your theories about what could have happened to Charisse? And that's when he relayed the accident theory, right? Like, you know, maybe the dog jumped or maybe she slipped on ice. But as he's saying these theories, Maggie, he also conveys. He says, well, you know, the coroner told me that the bullet that killed her had come from her gun.
00:13:42
Speaker
Well, that statement had yet another flaw in it, Maggie, because the coroner had made no such statement. Yeah, you didn't say that in the beginning. Yeah. At the time of the polygraph with Eugene in early January, ballistics had still not confirmed that the bullet had come from Charisse's gun. So him saying, well, the coroner told me that it came from her gun. No, the coroner didn't. No, he didn't.
00:14:11
Speaker
So they did confirm that it was indeed her gun at the scene of the crime, but it wasn't actually until March of 2013, and he's getting this polygraph in January, that ballistics did confirm that the bullet had indeed come from Charisse's gun. So people who want to say Eugene is guilty, they're saying, how did you know this before ballistics showed it?
00:14:41
Speaker
Right. Now, some others, obviously, devil's advocate will say, well, her gun was right there. Right. So it just makes sense. Right. During the first polygraph exam on January 9th, 2013, Eugene said it was a nightmare dealing with Charisse's loss and that he missed her even more than he thought he would.
00:15:03
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which I think sounds like a horrible statement to make. But for this polygraph, police asked him three questions. They said, did you shoot Charisse? Are you the one who shot Charisse? And do you know for sure who shot Charisse? Eugene answered no, no, and no. The results were inconclusive.
00:15:30
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but close to failing. And I didn't even know that was a thing until this case. But apparently two experts were independently called in to read Eugene's polygraph exam results. And both of these experts said inconclusive, but quote unquote at or near failure. So it's like you got a D minus. Right.
00:15:58
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You're right there on the cusp of failing. So as a final verification, they actually had a computer read the results, and the computer determined that Eugene had failed the polygraph exam. So Eugene urges the police that, well, the exam must be flawed. You know what? I'm willing to come in a second time to take another polygraph exam. So they agree to do that with him in later years. I mean, that can happen.
00:16:28
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Now, meanwhile, Eugene was asked about some other inconsistencies, mostly relating back to the call log.
Discrepancies in Eugene's Timeline
00:16:38
Speaker
So do you remember what time Eugene told police that he had woken up and started calling Charisse's phone?
00:16:47
Speaker
Wasn't it like 9.30? Yes. He said he woke up from the couch at 9.30, right? He said he called from the house phone and then from his cell phone and that he then began driving around looking for Cherise at the three potential spots. Stopping at the White River Trail is the last one and getting there at 11.23 p.m. Now. Right. The call logs did show Eugene trying to call Cherise from the home phone and then from a cell. Just
00:17:17
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not at the time he said it happened. Call records show Eugene called Charisse from the house phone at 11.02 p.m. and from his cell phone at 11.09 p.m. Which means that very shortly after that call he was on at the crime scene. Correct.
00:17:43
Speaker
So, they're presenting him with this information. Like, first you said she didn't leave until 7 30. We know that can't be possible because her body is found, you know, and the call is placed at 6 30. And she's pronounced dead at 7 15.
00:17:58
Speaker
And then you're saying you woke up at 930 and that's when you started searching for your wife and you started making these phone calls. But now the phone log is saying that those calls didn't happen until after 11. Well, he responds and he says, I don't know what to tell you. The times have to be wrong because that's impossible.
00:18:18
Speaker
Okay, I'm sure they are. AT&T just screwed up. Yeah, he says, you know, those can't be possible because I was at the crime scene at that time asking about Cherise when I saw the crime tape around her vehicle.
00:18:33
Speaker
Can I tell where he was when he made the cell phone call? Do we know he was at home? We will talk about that in just a second. But we also know that even his explanation of why it can't be true because he says, it can be true because I was at the crime scene. Well, that's not true either because he didn't get to the scene until almost 15 minutes after the last call and around 20 minutes after the first one.
00:19:04
Speaker
Here's another problem with the timing, Maggie. The drive from their home to the park was, remember, around an eight minute drive. But according to Eugene, this was the last of the three places that he had looked. One source. Which would be in Pup Bowl, right? Yeah, because one source stated that it would have taken roughly 16 minutes to drive to all three of the locations. But that's 16 minutes without getting out of your vehicle.
00:19:34
Speaker
And remember, we're talking 15 to 20 minutes after the phone calls. He's showing up at the scene of the crime. So if that is true, that he did drive around to all three, that this is the last one that, you know, he's coming to. Well, he didn't get out of his vehicle. Exactly. Yeah. He hadn't gotten out of his vehicle to look for Charisse if he made it to the park by 11, 23 p.m.
00:20:00
Speaker
but there was another call on the log, Maggie. And this is why I love technology that raised some questions. Eugene received a call at 7 41 PM. That phone call went unanswered. Now remember this was early on in the episode. I mentioned the news report and I said that the news led to two actions.
00:20:27
Speaker
One of them was the call to animal control about adopting the dogs. And I said the other one I'd get to later on in the episode. Here we are. The other one was a call to Eugene from a chiropractor friend of both Cherise and Eugene.
00:20:44
Speaker
He heard the news report and immediately thought of Cherise because again, they're talking about the body of a woman who's found in this park with these two dogs guarding her. So he decides to call Eugene to see if everything is okay. But remember, according to Eugene's timeline, this call couldn't have been for that reason because he said that Cherise hadn't even left the house yet.
00:21:12
Speaker
Yeah. Right. So this phone call from the chiropractor definitely doesn't fit with his timeline. Yeah, with his story. Yeah. The call raised questions for two reasons. The first was that the call, along with eight other calls, had been deleted from Eugene's phone.
00:21:32
Speaker
So many people are wondering, well, why would he have deleted any calls? Especially after law enforcement specifically asked him not to do something like that. And even if you delete them from your phone, they're still going to show on your phone records.
00:21:49
Speaker
So those who believe that Eugene is guilty, they argue, well, maybe he deleted it because it doesn't fit with his timeline. Right. Charisse's brother, Keith Walker, said a true crime daily quote, between that timeframe, the day before, the day of, I wouldn't be thinking about deleting anything. The main thing I'd be thinking about, what happened to my wife? Yeah.
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Cell Tower Data vs. Eugene's Alibi
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The second reason
00:26:34
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that this phone call raised questions is due to the cell tower that the call pinged. Okay, here we go. Although Eugene and Cherise only lived about three miles away from the crime scene, there were two cell towers, one that was closer to their house and one that was close to the crime scene itself.
00:26:56
Speaker
Although Eugene told police that he was at home watching the game at 7.40, which is right when this call would have come in, and that he had then fallen asleep on the couch, he said he was home the entire time until he woke up at 9.30, that phone call from the chiropractor didn't ping off the tower closest to their home. Instead, it pinged off the cell tower closer to the scene of the crime.
00:27:26
Speaker
Interesting. So are we going to say again that the phone company is wrong? Well, I'll tell you what he says. So even if there had been some sort of fluke and the phone had pinged off of the other tower for some unknown reason, right? Like let's say something weird happened and one tower was down or something. It pinged off of the one closer to the crime scene.
00:27:54
Speaker
They said it would have pinged then if he were home off of the west side of the tower in the direction of their home. Oh, I didn't even know it did that. I didn't either. I didn't either. But the cell tower didn't do that either. It pinged off the south side of the tower in the direction of the park itself. Yeah.
00:28:15
Speaker
So in fact, if the timeline played out as law enforcement now think the timeline went, which was that Cherise left her home on Kessler Boulevard North a little bit after six. She arrived eight minutes later, parked her car in the lot off of North White River Parkway West.
00:28:35
Speaker
locked her things in the vehicle, crossed the West New York Street bridge, turned on the trail, passed the cyclist, and then just minutes later was killed all by 6.30. They argue that Eugene could have committed the crime and still made it back home before the tip off to the game that he said he was watching as his alibi. Right, because they're just eight minutes away. So, definitely.
00:29:01
Speaker
Just like Eugene's refusal to acknowledge that his timeline could be off, he also told police that, well, the cell tower data was impossible because he was at home and he wasn't at the park until 11 o'clock that evening. Okay. Sure you were. Do you also remember how many times I told you Eugene and the other woman called each other between December 3rd and December 11th?
00:29:29
Speaker
Yeah, it was like a hundred times. Well, an odd pattern happened after Sharice's death. The day after her murder, the woman called Eugene nine times. But then between the two of them from December 14th, 2012 until January 27th, 2013. So we're talking.
00:29:57
Speaker
A month and a half, there was only one single call between them. So they go from calling each other eight, nine, 10 times a day to over a span of several weeks speaking one time. Yes. And all of this, despite making their relationship together official in February,
00:30:25
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only a couple months after Eugene's wife's death. Okay, tasteful. Charisse's family later found out that the duplex wasn't the only property that Eugene and this woman had together before Charisse's death. They also owned another house that the woman was living in.
00:30:47
Speaker
Yeah, so again, this didn't seem like a relationship that Eugene planned on ending anytime soon. Yeah, not a fling. Yeah, far cry from, you know, the relationship that he was trying to portray to police.
00:31:04
Speaker
Right. And remember, he was trying to also portray to them that he and Charisse had this great relationship that they had just joined a new church together. They had gotten married together. Well, in contrast, Maggie, Charisse's pastor was shocked to learn that Charisse was even married because he had never met Eugene and had no idea.
00:31:29
Speaker
Wow. Apparently, they weren't really baptized together either. Right. Just more lines in this little web of lies. Yeah. So Eugene did come in for his second polygraph on January 22, 2014. And again, there were three questions. The first two were the same. Did you shoot Charisse? Are you the one who shot Charisse? Those were the same as before.
00:31:57
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The third was slightly altered from, do you know for sure who shot Charisse to, did you participate in the shooting of Charisse? Again, the results were inconclusive, close to failure.
00:32:14
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Shortly after the second polygraph, law enforcement also brought in the other woman for a polygraph on February 8th, 2013, asking her the same three questions as round two for Eugene, except, and I don't know why they did this, but they replaced Charisse's name with that woman, as in, did you shoot that woman? Interesting. Her results were scored a failure.
00:32:45
Speaker
And I know we discuss, we've said it so many times, that polygraphs are not accurate and that the result should be taken with a grain of salt. So I don't want to put too much stock into those results. What I will point out though, are all of the reasons that people look to Eugene as the most obvious person of interest in the case. And we are looking at homicide in this case, Maggie, because in
Charisse's Defensive Wounds Cast Doubt on Suicide Theory
00:33:14
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June,
00:33:15
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2013 lab testing revealed that there were defects in Charisse's clothing, specifically in the arm layers of her shirts that she had on that would have been consistent with holding out her right arm in defense.
00:33:35
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And that the bullet had penetrated the sleeves before entering her sternum. So this detail finally effectively invalidates the theory of suicide and also likely accident. Because if it's an accident, you're not going to throw up your arm to defend yourself. So I mean, now we're just left with homicide. So I guess we're questioning now who. And most people would answer that question with one name.
00:34:05
Speaker
And that's Eugene. They argue that he had multiple motives. These are the reasons that they give. Nearly $1 million in insurance, as well as an affair that he seemingly didn't plan on ending. They argue that his alibi, shaky at best, because the timeline doesn't match events. He didn't perform well on either polygraph exam. The gun pouch that Charisse always carried was found in the home and not on her person.
00:34:32
Speaker
Cell data showed different timing on calls placed to Charisse than what he said they had happened. And there we have the cell tower ping data, which doesn't match where he said he was. And his woman failed the polygraph test. Yep. And perhaps most telling, the dogs had somehow allowed someone to get close enough to Charisse to fire. And the only person who they argue could have done that was her husband.
00:35:01
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Her brother, Keith, told Matthew Foltz of WTHR, quote, I can't put judgment on nobody. I can't accuse nobody. But the only thing leading to him is the dogs because they were attack dogs, guard dogs. And they were the only ones that could handle them dogs, end quote. Now I want to know who got the dogs. I know. And I don't know the answer to that question.
00:35:29
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Those who want to play devil's advocate, though, they ask, well, if Eugene were guilty, why would he have volunteered to take a polygraph twice?
00:35:38
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Yeah, but I think a lot of his actions, though, you could say, why would he do that? Like, why show up at the crime scene? Why? There's a lot of things that he did that are just weird. I mean, that is true. Yeah. Why would he have showed up there versus letting them contact him? Or why would he have left the murder weapon at the scene versus, you know, using a different gun or, you know,
00:36:02
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But whatever you believe, though, they also argue that the evidence against Eugene, I mean, whether you want to believe he's guilty or not, is circumstantial. That's true. So despite that fact, the Marion County Prosecutor's Office convened a grand jury in March 2014. And by the summer of that same year, Indiana State Police announced that they had made an arrest and the murder of Cherise Walker Bingham, her husband Eugene.
00:36:32
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Interesting. Now, I'm sure you, Maggie, and our sleuthounds are thinking, why did you just tell us this entire case, Alison, because we cover cold cases and not solved ones? That's because this one isn't solved. You see, on Monday, July 28, 2014, Eugene was brought in for an update on the case and promptly served an arrest warrant and charged with one count of murder.
00:37:01
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Eugene was then taken to the Marion County Jail and swiftly released on bail. The Charisse's family was anxiously awaiting Eugene's trial when they could finally feel justice. But in August 2015, one month before the trial was set to begin, the charges were dropped against Eugene due to lack of evidence.
00:37:27
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Wow. What happened was that while an undercover law enforcement officer still maintains that they charge the right person, they also acknowledge that they do not have enough evidence to convict because one of the biggest pieces of evidence that would place Eugene at the scene of the crime at the time of the crime would be the cell tower data.
00:37:56
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and they were ready to proceed in their charges until Sprint wouldn't testify to its own cell data to prove Eugene was actually at the murder scene. Why? So, investigation discovery coverage noted that Sprint, in essence, acknowledged that their data was flawed.
00:38:19
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And so I guess he could have been right that the times were wrong and the pinging was wrong. Yeah. They basically said that it couldn't be relied upon to place Eugene at the scene. They actually said they had no confidence in it because here's why they said the chiropractors call at 7 41, the one that bounced off the tower close to the park went to voicemail and was not an answered call.
00:38:47
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And because of that distinction, that somehow meant that the tower information was less accurate. So without that evidence to place Eugene in the park, now it's really all circumstantial. So despite wishing that they could move forward, law enforcement thought it was best to drop the charges now because of double jeopardy.
Case Unresolved: Charges Dropped
00:39:15
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Oh yeah. So they along with the family made the decision to wait until they have more information and tips to provide evidence in such a trial. But now here we are 10 years later and we're still waiting for that additional evidence to emerge. So I guess then obviously I'm going to know the answer to this question but they didn't check his hands for gunpowder residue either. They did not.
00:39:43
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I know and I mean the thing is those who want to support Eugene say Well, we haven't had a trial yet because there isn't solid proof to prove his guilt But for a majority of people who do believe in his guilt the biggest question they have now is
00:40:03
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If Eugene were involved, did he act alone or with someone else?
Questions Around Life Insurance Payout
00:40:09
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Because remember, Charisse did believe that she was being followed. Good point about the blue blazer. Making matters worse for the family, even than waiting for justice, was the fact that although Charisse's brother Keith tried to stop Eugene from getting the insurance money,
00:40:30
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After the wrongful death suit was dropped, the money did go to Eugene. And with it, he got his record expunged, which is why there's limited information on this case. He used it to pay for a wedding to the mistress and he paid off the mortgages to those hidden properties with the money from the life insurance. Ooh. Officially.
00:41:00
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Indiana State Police Sergeant John Perrine told reporter Jake Allen of the Indy Star this past December, quote, our policy doesn't allow us to identify anybody as a suspect.
Call for Public Help & Podcast Engagement
00:41:11
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This case is still open and actively being investigated, and there are persons of interest in the case. We are very confident somebody knows what happened, and maybe more than one person knows what happened to Charisse.
00:41:24
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We are looking for somebody to come forward with information that will help us to push this case forward and find results for the family."
00:41:34
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Adding to that, another Indiana State Police Sergeant, Rich Myers, said, quote, we are unfortunately at a standstill. Our leads have been exhausted to the point we need somebody to come forward with that one piece of information, that one little bit of, well, I didn't think this was important enough to contact police, but it is a piece of information so that we can get the person responsible for this, end quote.
00:42:00
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Because as you can imagine, the family is still suffering immensely. According to Charisse's brother Keith, at least with time, the anger has become more of a feeling of longing for justice. But both of those emotions are rooted in the innate desire for the truth. Will you share this case to help them find it?
00:42:24
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Anyone with information is asked to call the Indiana State Police at 317-899-8577 or Crimestoppers of Central Indiana at 317-262-8477.
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