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Marcela Ot’alora: The True Power of MDMA – Transforming Trauma and Suffering into Healing with Psychedelic-Assisted Therapy & Art – Podcast #264 image

Marcela Ot’alora: The True Power of MDMA – Transforming Trauma and Suffering into Healing with Psychedelic-Assisted Therapy & Art – Podcast #264

E264 · Disrupt Everything podcast series by Isra Garcia - Disrupt Yourself
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"Healing is not about fixing yourself, but embracing every part of who you are." - Marcela Ot’alora. Welcome to a new episode of the Disrupt Everything Podcast Series. Join Isra García as he sits down with the extraordinary Marcela Ot’alora—a pioneer in psychotherapy, art, and psychedelic research.

With a background in fine arts and a master’s degree in transpersonal psychology, Marcela has dedicated her career to exploring how therapeutic tools, combined with the conscious use of psychedelics, can turn suffering into profound healing. As a lead therapist in groundbreaking MDMA-assisted clinical trials for PTSD under MAPS, she has carved out a unique path that blends creativity, connection, and presence to create safe spaces for deep emotional exploration.


"MDMA doesn’t heal people—what it does is create the space for them to heal themselves." - Marcela Ot’alora.


In this transformative conversation, you will discover:


  • How psychedelic therapy transforms trauma: Learn about Marcela’s work with MDMA-assisted psychotherapy and its revolutionary impact on healing PTSD.
  • The power of art in therapy: Understand how artistic expression deepens the therapeutic process and helps rebuild one’s story from a place of strength.
  • Creating safe, transformative spaces: Discover her innovative approach to fostering authentic connection and vulnerability.
  • The journey from suffering to healing: Explore how embracing our deepest emotions can lead to inner and collective peace.
  • Real-life insights and practical guidance: Gain valuable lessons from her pioneering research and clinical practice.


Marcela Ot’alora’s story is a beacon for anyone seeking to turn pain into power and transform their life through conscious healing. Tune in for an inspiring dialogue that bridges the worlds of art, psychotherapy, and psychedelics—opening new pathways to inner peace and self-discovery.


What You'll Learn in This Episode:

  • The truth about being a therapist in psychedelic-assisted therapy.
  • How MDMA helps process trauma and emotional suffering.
  • The role of creativity and art in deep healing.
  • The importance of presence, vulnerability, and relational connection in therapy.
  • How psychedelic therapy differs from traditional therapeutic approaches.
  • Practical insights on trauma, healing, and integration.
  • The ethical and professional challenges in the field of psychedelic-assisted therapy.
  • Long-lasting effects of non-ordinary states of consciousness.


"Integration is a lifelong process; healing doesn’t end with one experience—it’s about how you bring it into your life." - Marcela Ot’alora.


Index of Contents:

  1. Marcela’s Journey – From fine arts to psychedelic therapy.
  2. Her First Experience with MDMA – A life-changing perspective shift.
  3. Why She Chose This Path – The power of authenticity and connection.
  4. Lessons from Her Work in Psychedelic Therapy.
  5. The Role of Trauma in Healing.
  6. What It Truly Means to Be a Therapist.
  7. The Challenges of Integrating Psychedelic
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