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Episode 47: Ice Marathon Glory, Snake Bite Mayhem, and Donna Double/Six Foot Track Preview!
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Welcome to Episode 47 of Peak Pursuits, your ultimate podcast for everything trail running in Australia. This wild episode is hosted by Sim Brick, Vlad Ixel and Brodie Nankervis and has some of the craziest stories yet for the podcast! Hear about Vlad’s win at the Pangong Frozen Lake Marathon in India and the chaos of the trip there, catch up with Brodie as he gets back to some consistent running, and hear all the details of Sim’s scary run in with a snake on her last session before Donna Double! Sim runs you through what to expect/what to do if you find yourself or a friend in a similar situation in our beautiful Aussie landscape so hopefully this pod leaves you feeling more prepared and reassured on how to deal with our wriggly friends!
The fun doesn’t stop there though - keep listening for a preview of next weeks Warby Trail Fest including the first round of the Golden Trail National Series at the Donna Double, as well as the always hotly contested Six Foot Track Marathon!
Results:
Bogong Conquestathon: https://my.raceresult.com/315232/
Gone Nuts 10: https://tomatotiming.racetecresults.com/results.aspx?CId=16&RId=29784&EId=3
Xiamen Ultra Trail: https://live.utmb.world/xiamen/2025/20K
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Thanks for tuning in to Peak Pursuits! Connect with us on Instagram @peakpursuits.pod to share your thoughts, questions, and your own trail stories. Until next time, keep hitting the trails and chasing those peak pursuits!
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Transcript
Introduction and Time Zone Differences
00:00:08
Speaker
Hello and welcome to episode 47 of the Peak Pursuits podcast. My name is Simone Brick and today i am joined by Vlad Ixel and Brody Nankervis, both over in WA.
00:00:19
Speaker
are we doing? Yeah, I'm glad. Yeah, I'm pretty good, thanks. Nice to be um the same time zone as Vlad, but still on a different one to the ah whole podcast is on a different time zone.
00:00:31
Speaker
Yeah, we can we can never quite get it all together, can we? But at least we're we're all back in Oz. Vlad has returned from his quick but eventful trip to India.
Preview and Experience of Ice Marathon
00:00:42
Speaker
And so we've got a big episode coming at you this week because we're going to hear all about Vlad's ice marathon experience.
00:00:49
Speaker
I've got a little bit of a trail incident that I can recap from my training week. And then we've got a rundown of next weekend's races, which will be a big weekend of racing between Warburton Trail Fest, the first round of the Golden Trail National Series, and Six Foot Track, both coming at us next weekend. a few cool results from Gone Nuts and Bogong and Overseas.
00:01:15
Speaker
And, yeah, between all that, a lot of cool info coming at you. Yeah. To get us started, something that I've been anticipating, Vlad, how was it running 42Ks on ice?
00:01:26
Speaker
hu Yeah, it actually wasn't that hard. I think that the hardest part about this whole thing was the trip. Yeah, okay. Yeah, so so it's pretty much like right on the border of China on the Indian Himalayas.
00:01:41
Speaker
um This frozen lake, that half of it is is in China and half it is in India. And together, there obviously, it's not that easy from Perth um path to Singapore, Singapore, Delhi, Delhi, La, and then from La, Olay, a five and a half hour bus ride.
00:02:02
Speaker
so But that bus ride is at minus 15, minus 20 degrees. um And it's like an old bus. So actually, that was probably the hardest bit was was that bus ride,
00:02:15
Speaker
that was so cold and so dangerous because you literally go on like those Bolivian mountain roads like really like you know kind of yeah really really sketchy like I've done the most dangerous road in Bolivia and that's all I could think except that this time you add in snow as well oh my gosh so yeah we're actually I have a video of like this military truck that almost almost fell from the side it was just stopped like last second and it was like hanging on the edge while they were trying to like yeah um they were trying to get it out but yeah that was that was really really sketchy and really cold as well just an old bus no hitting and going to like five five and a half thousand meters on this pass um was definitely an an adventure then we got to our village which
00:03:09
Speaker
it's a proper village. um Most of the houses don't have electricity. Obviously, it's too cold for running water. um so after that bus ride, getting into this cold, cold room in like the late afternoon, i was like, I don't know how i'm going to do this.
00:03:26
Speaker
But yeah, so I think like the hardest bit was the cold. um Running on the ice itself wasn't that bad. Like I think it was slippery. I mean, even with the clits on, It was still a little bit slippery, but it wasn't that bad. The ice wasn't like fully straight as well.
00:03:42
Speaker
Like it wasn't like what you would imagine. It would just like a straight ice skating ice. I guess the only ice that I've seen is like, you know, the ice skating ice you see like skating rings.
00:03:54
Speaker
um This was like a bit wavy, I guess, from like a little bit of defrosting and then freezing back on again and stuff like that. yeah yeah ah Yeah, that was an experience, but it wasn't easy. like um I just felt tired.
00:04:08
Speaker
And then once the race finished, I was just like really exhausted. But yeah, okay. So talk us through the precepts. Like I think I saw the day before, was that the first time you got on the ice? So you got in, was it two days out or how
Acclimation and Living Conditions for Ice Marathon
00:04:23
Speaker
far out?
00:04:23
Speaker
Yeah. so we had to get there like actually like the whole package is like a week. um You have to kind of, they cover like, you know, meals for three three three meals a day for like a whole week hotel.
00:04:35
Speaker
So actually, layer I should mention, Lai is like a really nice city. um So that's only an hour away from Delhi flight. um and That's at 3,500, 3,400 meters above sea level. Got this, yeah, kind of South American vibe to it.
00:04:52
Speaker
um Very dry, but then you can still see kind of like snow-capped mountains in the background. That was fairly cold, but only like minus 15. So, um you know, running running was fine.
00:05:04
Speaker
So we were there for two days and I really enjoyed it because when you go out to like minus 15 for an hour or two, it's not that bad. And then you go back to like a warm room and you warm up, then it's not that bad.
00:05:16
Speaker
yeah But yeah, we were there for two days and then got the bus and spent two days before the race in the village. um The village, the lake itself is at 4,400 meters.
00:05:27
Speaker
And yeah, i mean, it's a proper village. It doesn't feel like India, to be honest, like, like and and and the lake felt a bit more like, um I guess somewhere in Uzbekistan or Kazakhstan or like, you know, Tibet, but it definitely did not feel like India.
00:05:45
Speaker
There's a lot of military presence around um when they are proper, like Indian looking, I guess from what you imagine is an Indian person to look like. So there's a lot of them because there's a lot of tension on that border between China and India. So there's a lot of soldiers around, but the village itself is, yeah, just, you know, no roads, um just a couple of really basic houses with no insulation. like like not not even double glazed windows for like, you know, that winter.
00:06:17
Speaker
um yeah damn i mean, the morning of the race waking up and seeing like the inside window of our room was just like frozen. This meant that it was like colder inside than outside.
00:06:31
Speaker
Perfect. That's exactly what you want. And how did you find sleeping, like going straight to that height to sleep? Like surely that wasn't easy. Yeah, i was going to say that was probably like one of the hardest things is that you cannot get like a good sleep. So you sleep for like an hour, wake up for a bit, sleep again, wake up.
00:06:49
Speaker
I think like the cold made it harder than the um elevation, to be honest. But then it's definitely a combination of both. um Yeah, but it's the cold that kind of does it. Like I was in bed.
00:07:02
Speaker
with three pairs of socks, two pairs of pants, and maybe like eight or nine layers, like all the clothes that I had pretty much on me, and then two big blankets, and I was still like shivering. Damn. It was so cold that I could not fall asleep.
00:07:16
Speaker
um yeah Did you ever take your pole socks? Like did you did anyone have anything to take your oxygen saturation levels or anything? This is a scientist in me being very intrigued. but Yeah, so we had to get two medical checkups before the race, one in lay and one when we were there.
00:07:33
Speaker
um yeah i'd like to say maybe it was around like 88 or 87 i'm not sure good ah kind of looked at it as the doctor was writing but then again you know that little finger thing could be a bit off yeah especially in the cold yeah yeah especially if you would have seen that state of that um medical center Fun, fun. So race morning, you said you woke up and the inside of your glass is frozen. So obviously a bloody cold day, but had like, you got to practice on the ice the day before. So is that where you figured out what layers you were wearing and everything on the day of, or what was the go
Race Preparation and Challenges
00:08:11
Speaker
there?
00:08:11
Speaker
Yeah, that was kind of a test run the day before. I think I did four or 5k, um, straight out to the other side of the lake. And that was like the nice part of the lake. Um, Yeah, kind of figured it out, but I felt like after 2K, I was really warming up quickly. So I knew I'd be taking some layers off.
00:08:29
Speaker
um So started the race with a T-shirt, a long sleeve, and then like a really thin jacket, but had my whole face covered up and two pairs of gloves because I felt like for me, my hands were like probably the ones that I feel in the most.
00:08:43
Speaker
Yeah, yep. um But yeah, I started the race like that. It was a bit different. So like that ice that I trained on or trained on that did that practice run on was really nice and smooth.
00:08:55
Speaker
And then when the race started, we're kind of going both sides of the race. So one, ah guess, towards India and one towards the Chinese border. And they were like a bit uneven because we're also like very close to the banks of the lake.
00:09:11
Speaker
so like Yeah, okay. that's where it was a bit uneven ice so that was a bit weird and um not as flat as what i expected it to be like obviously flat sorry it was very very flat like no elevation gain but it wasn't like completely like ice yeah slick yeah exactly like what do you imagine it to be there was a bit of like wavy texture a lot of the times yeah um but yeah got kind of got going it's weird because It was really, really cold, like probably minus 25 or even colder. But once the sun kind of just came out over the mountains, it's just started slowly warming up.
00:09:49
Speaker
um And as I started running, I think within five k I was already took my second, my big pair of gloves off and just stayed with one pair of gloves.
00:10:00
Speaker
um probably like still like maybe minus 18 or 17 at that point. um But yeah, I was really warming up quickly. The thing is with this course, it wasn't like a straight line both ways.
00:10:11
Speaker
So they kind of did those turns. like very small turns. So you kind of run for a bit. um And then there it's like a snake shape.
00:10:22
Speaker
mean, it's a bit hard to explain, but it wasn't just like straight line and you had to run between those two flags. So they kind of created a path. um So i was in the lead and I was looking back at second place and it just felt like he was cutting the corners on the flags.
00:10:37
Speaker
And like the first few times, just like looking back at him, but then I just realized, well, there's no point like you know him running two or three meters less than what i do every single turn so i stayed back and just ran with him um the whole way it just meant that it we're going probably a bit slower than what i wanted but in my head i was like it doesn't really matter like how fast you go or like you know the time just about trying to make it to the finish line i guess in first position um and then yeah i ran with him pretty much the whole way was actually like
00:11:11
Speaker
Pretty, I guess, pretty thirsty. i didn't think I'd be that thirsty. um Altitude and dry air will do that. Yeah. So I think that like even like second aid station, probably 10K in, I almost had like a full cup of like hot water um and pretty much every single, they had an aid station every 5K. So every single aid station after that, I would have had at least like 200 mil of of hot water.
00:11:39
Speaker
um Just yeah, really thirsty. Gels actually went down pretty easily. Like I've heard that it's a bit harder to consume high amounts of carbs in altitude, but I had six gels, so it wasn't that bad.
00:11:52
Speaker
Um, but I guess having that amount of water really helped. yeah Um, so yeah, ran with that local guy from lay and then last 5k, I just pushed a little bit more and, and got away and,
00:12:04
Speaker
and finished first. um Yeah, it was. Nice. I was wondering how they would mark something like this. So did you was it just a case of run flag to flag kind of thing? So it's run between the flags, which made it even different. Because I think if you run flag to flag, you stay pretty close to the flag.
00:12:22
Speaker
But if you have to run between two flags, um so they kind of created this course. Imagine if like the bottom flag, so like the closest one to the corner, you don't go around it, you just kind of like, you know, kind of cross it before you get to the flag.
00:12:40
Speaker
So you kind of exit the the the course. um You kind of save maybe like three or four meters every turn. And it like being a bit of like this kind of ah like a snake horse, it was saving a lot of time so i was like yeah there's no point you know trying to like tell him hey stay with it between the flags or ah fight it and so i just like fell back realized that third place was like maybe another minute or two behind and then we just ran together which made it also like a bit more i guess fun because it's i mean obviously really beautiful views but
00:13:14
Speaker
Yeah, mentally, I don't know. It's not an easy kind of course with you, like sleeping and stuff like that. So having somebody there did make it a little bit easier you can just like, oh, another K or like, you know, like, oh, I see another aid station. and Yeah, it'd be a long way to go solo with the same view.
00:13:31
Speaker
Yeah, it's exactly the same view pretty much, except a couple of turns and eight stations. kind of and And it's weird because you can see an eight station and it could be 5K away or 1K away. It looks exactly the same.
00:13:45
Speaker
um But yeah, it was nice to run with him and then... Yeah, got to the finish line and like felt warm for like five or 10 minutes. But then after that, as I sat down, I started freezing and then- was going to say, you freeze pretty quick.
00:13:59
Speaker
Yeah, walked back into my room and like just went under the blankets for like two hours, just asking for coffee and tea to try and warm up. But the thing is that like the coffee stays warm for like, you know, a few seconds realistically before so you see like almost have to scull the coffee that they give you.
00:14:14
Speaker
um But yeah, and then we- don Just got a taxi out of there as soon as we could. um Didn't want to stay another night, missed the presentations, but um yeah, kind of wanted to get out of there as soon as possible just because I didn't want to go through another night there.
00:14:31
Speaker
Like sleeping there was definitely the hardest bit. It's just cold. Not good. And so hours time? was that your time Yeah, i mean, like realistically speaking, I'd say that the course was probably like 40 or 41K. Like a few people had 40 on their watches. i only had like 37 and a half, but my GPS showed 500 meters of elevation gain. Oh, okay. Yeah, your watch was cooked.
00:14:57
Speaker
A few people were saying that there was some, because of all the military stuff there, they closed some GPS spots like ah like ah are along the lake. Yeah, okay.
00:15:08
Speaker
So I don't, i like, from the few people that asked, everybody were, like, under, but, like, not under as much as what I was, more, like, under 1 or 2K. Still means if GPS was off, it could have been over for all you guys know, like, if everyone's GPS is off for the same area. So, like, you're just never going to know the distance. Yeah, I think everybody was under.
00:15:28
Speaker
yeah, I think maybe, like, you know, maybe it was 1.5K or 2K under, which on the scheme of things, like, I don't think it really matters. No, race is a race. Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
00:15:39
Speaker
And they had, was surprised they had prize money. So. Oh, no way. don't if I'll ever get it, but um I think it was 500 US, which is pretty much like, yeah, as much as most races in Australia. So that was pretty cool.
00:15:54
Speaker
That's wild. I love that. But yeah, how do you, how are you going to get that from India? Like, how's that going to go down? yeah
00:16:04
Speaker
Oh, good. Well, congrats. How it was the trip home? Like I always find when it's a really like long travel, the trip home is ah so much worse because you don't have the anticipation of the adventure ahead.
00:16:16
Speaker
So how was the trip home and how was the recovery from something like that? Yeah, like a six-hour delay in Singapore didn't help, especially six hours through the night. oh Yeah, actually I spent like half a day in Mumbai and in Delhi, sorry, and then um back to Australia but yeah it was a long trip back home um yeah i don't know I feel I feel okay i obviously just tired from the trip and the coldness I guess yeah but yeah otherwise not too bad go back home and started training because they're like obviously while I was there yeah i did run 40k but the rest of the time it was only like very short runs so so yeah felt a bit lazy in terms of training not that I could do much more but yes yeah yeah
00:17:04
Speaker
It's amazing what our brains do to us. You were anything but lazy just being there at that altitude. But sure. Brody, you got any questions for Vlad? No, it sounds like a crazy experience. It looked really cool.
00:17:15
Speaker
i was I was very um much enjoying watching all your content on social media. So thanks for sharing. and It was pretty epic. It didn't look that cold in all your videos. Yeah. It was sunny, right? So it was like, yeah, so cold.
00:17:30
Speaker
Um, yeah, it was really, really cold. I hate being cold. So I think I would struggle a lot with that. Yeah.
Reflection on Ice Marathon and Climate Change Concerns
00:17:36
Speaker
It's I mean, like, you know, i still think like it's like a once in a lifetime trip. I think they were kind of like asking me if I'll be back and like, I was like, yeah, maybe. But like in the back of my mind, I'm like, this is a once in a lifetime trip. Or until you like really have like a setup at that, at that lake where you have some insulated rooms and like,
00:17:57
Speaker
hitters in the rooms and stuff like that. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, it was definitely a lot of fun. And it's a fairly cheap trip. um You know, flying to India from Australia is actually not that expensive. And this whole one-week all-inclusive trip was actually really, really cheap as well.
00:18:14
Speaker
um Nice. and So definitely, if you are looking for something different, you should check it out. They are saying that this race will probably go on for only like... maybe five to ten years because they think that the ice will stop melting as as things get warmer um so they kind of said yeah we don't know how long this race will actually survive for yeah fair fair but damn cool that you got to do it and uh if it was a cheap trip then that prize money if you ever get it will go a long way towards paying it off so
00:18:45
Speaker
ah Wins all round. Love that. And so um just last one before we quickly have a listener question based on this, but um how are you feeling now that we're like six days out from your next race at Donna Double?
00:19:00
Speaker
Yeah, i was kind of trying to like um get some back-to-back longer runs this weekend just to try and bank them in and have something in my legs. um I don't know. It's hard to say. Obviously, there's no altitude gain from five days in altitude and you know, 80 hours of traveling at the same time.
00:19:19
Speaker
um ye But yeah, we'll see. i think that the good thing about trail races, it's not like a set, like, you know, like a road race. a lot can happen with an up and down race and it might be better than where I think I am.
00:19:34
Speaker
i think if it was a flat road race, then I kind of go, yeah, probably not going to do it too great. But being straight up, straight down, um you know, just adds so much to it. So...
00:19:46
Speaker
Yeah. yeah see i'm not Obviously, I'm not at at my fittest and i haven't really felt super fit for the last few weeks, but yeah, we'll see. See how we go. Awesome. Awesome. Well, it'll be good to see you there. And just before we move off topic completely, there was a listener question that was very apt to come in timing wise.
00:20:04
Speaker
And um I'm going to chuck it in here because it's on topic.
Transitioning from Warm to Cold Racing Conditions
00:20:08
Speaker
And that came in from PharmaCasley on Instagram. And it was, how do you go from training in 30 plus degree heat to racing in the cold on mountaintops. Any tips?
00:20:19
Speaker
Since Vlad has just lived this exact experience, ah what tips do you have for people that might be doing the same? Or maybe not quite so cold, just any any colder than, you know, the 10 degrees when you've been training in 30 still feels cold. Yeah, I think like think about layers that could be easily put away.
00:20:37
Speaker
um so that's what I kind of i had. I had that in my mind that in the beginning I'll be cold and then I'll warm up. um ah So I had kind of an upper layer that I knew I can just tie around my waist really easily and instead of like a big bulky jacket.
00:20:53
Speaker
So I think like just think about layering up but then being able to take it off fairly quickly as you warm up. um Yeah, I guess like it's probably easier going this way than the other way. But yeah, it's just the beginning that is always hard. But when once your body warm up it's actually like warms up, it's actually not that bad.
00:21:12
Speaker
and Yeah, yeah, I think I'd second that. It's definitely much nicer going from training in the heat to racing in the cold because you can layer and warm up. It's a lot harder to go from training in the cold to racing in the heat because that actually takes some physiological adaptation to navigate well.
00:21:28
Speaker
But we can take that physiological adaptation and just put it to a clothing adaptation really when it comes to going from hot to cold. So, yeah, data um to a point, there is the whole saying of be bold, start cold, because you will warm up. Like, you don't need to overdo it.
00:21:46
Speaker
I've certainly been on a cold start line in leggings and a hoodie with my bib pinned outside the hoodie, and it was a bad move. mad move um but But, yeah, like physiologically, your body will handle it fine as long as you layer up.
00:22:01
Speaker
because you're going to be creating so much heat internally from running. But Brodie, you got anything to add? ah Yeah, not not really. Like I would agree that um it's sort of the, like it's more the mental side that's probably the tricky bit. From a physiological standpoint, as long as you're sort of warm enough in the race, it probably doesn't matter too much or whatever you you're doing. So yeah, make sure you got the right layers, your the right temperature, but training-wise...
00:22:30
Speaker
Yeah, I'm not sure there's there's too much. Maybe some ice bathing for the mental fortitude. Maybe dips in the ocean. I feel like you know if you're a long distance runner, you go through so much mental toughness just on a regular basis. So you should be okay in that sense.
00:22:48
Speaker
Yeah. I like the double glove. um I'd like the thin layer of glove and then the thick layer of glove. I'm all for that because like Vlad, like your extremities seem like always get the coldest, um particularly if you're someone that's used to like tends to get cold hands.
00:23:03
Speaker
So also if you're running in the cold and like I find I'm always feeling warm enough if my hands are warm enough and my feet are warm enough. That's the main thing for me and head.
00:23:14
Speaker
So if I'm racing in the cold, I may still be in a singlet and shorts, but I may have two pairs of gloves, a buff around my head to like cover my ears and stuff and thicker socks.
00:23:25
Speaker
And I find that tends to be enough. You may then take off one layer of gloves or even have the outer layer of your gloves. You can buy sort of mitten ones that are windproof. So rather than be just a like normal glove running material or soft material, they're like plasticky.
00:23:40
Speaker
um That I actually find almost always my hands will genuinely get hot no matter how cold it is eventually. um so you'd want to make sure you take that outer layer off before you sweat through your gloves because that's not going to help much either.
00:23:54
Speaker
But, um yeah, there's like if you're going to prioritise warming anything, like I would tend to go other than in extreme like Vlad was in, arm warmers, double gloves, buff around the head.
00:24:06
Speaker
And as long as you then have maybe a jacket, and you can take off pretty quick in the race. Like you should, body should handle it fine, um hopefully.
00:24:16
Speaker
Yeah, and you I kind of knew that I was going to take off my second pair of gloves like after a bit once I warmed up. So I especially chose like a pair of gloves that don't really care and I just left it at aid station.
00:24:29
Speaker
um yeah so yeah, maybe think about if you are going to take something off there maybe you don't really care about, that you can just Yeah, you can buy really cheap. Like this is not good for the environment. So I actually hope people don't do it.
00:24:41
Speaker
Trail runners, we normally have packs, but you can buy much cheaper um arm warmers and stuff. And ideally you leave it with someone at an aid station or whatever. But um the other thing I will quickly add is that altitude might change this, but making sure you've got enough fuel, your body will stay warm if you've got enough sugar going in. Like one of the main ways we treat hypothermia is to give someone sugar.
00:25:02
Speaker
um because your body needs that to actually stay warm on any circumstance. So just because because just because it's cold, try to make sure you're not hydrating and fueling any less and then your body will handle the cold a lot better as well.
00:25:18
Speaker
so Cool. I think that ah hopefully gives you some tips. Thank you so much for the question. And, yeah, that was a little interlude.
Brodie Returns to Running with Achilles Management
00:25:26
Speaker
Before, Brodie, chucking it to you, you're in Perth. You've been there for so last week and a bit.
00:25:32
Speaker
You've got a race coming up this weekend as well, but a different kind. How's the ah return to running going? Yeah, that's pretty good. um I've been sort of running day on, day off ah since I got, ah it's been maybe two weeks now, I think.
00:25:50
Speaker
Maybe I've done six or seven runs, maybe seven runs. um So, yeah, that would be about two weeks. um And yeah, it's coming back nicely. Like I'm feeling um it's obviously I think like I can't expect to have no symptoms at all because Like my Achilles still has to get used to this new load that I'm putting back onto it again.
00:26:12
Speaker
um But mostly sort of how it's responding afterwards and and the days after has been going well and I tend to be able to progress through okay. So, yeah, it's been pretty good. I've enjoyed being over in WA, being down in sort of the southwest, um doing some exploring. um Would have loved to do some some runs on some of the trails down here.
00:26:33
Speaker
did a few hikes, which was really cool. um In the Stirling Ranges, was really awesome. um and then, yeah, a few other hikes. I've been down on the beach, been getting a lot of swimming in, did my first sort of ocean swimming because I don't have my bike here or I don't have access to a bike, so I've been sort of swimming or walking as my sort of other training um and doing trying to continue with my gym stuff as much as I can.
00:26:57
Speaker
um But, yeah, I've been doing a fair bit of swimming. I think I swam about 6K last week, which was big for me. um Nice. And yeah, running running's happening. So yeah, I don't have too much more. I've been doing some like, because I'm racing on Saturday, orienteering races.
00:27:19
Speaker
um I've been doing a couple, ah little bit of intensity in some of the runs just so that it's not a massive shock. So I'm not so much increasing the volume as much as trying to inject a little bit of intensity in these two weeks.
00:27:34
Speaker
It's not much, but I've done, like I did a bit of at Threshold the other day and been doing some strides and stuff. So um running feels weird, but it's slowly coming back.
00:27:45
Speaker
Nice. Sounds like a smart rebuild. And so are these sorts of runs you're doing, they're just sort of 30 minutes at a time for now still? Pretty much, yeah. That's the max. Like I i got a ah my run the other day, I was supposed to do 30 minutes, ended it up doing 50 because I misjudged the loop little bit.
00:28:01
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It's almost double. Okay. Here I am saying it's a smart rebuild. That's not smart. and was onp purposeful That was That was not on purpose. You know, you can, like, just stop and walk it back, right?
00:28:12
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That's your pattern. that would have been, like, 20 minutes of running worth of walking, which is, like, 40 minutes, and I just wasn't i wasn't on. and And it felt okay, and I was only doing easy intensity, so I've got lots of excuses, but that was all right. But, yes, no, the other ones have all been of about 30 minutes and just adding a little bit of intensity during the day.
00:28:35
Speaker
So, yeah, it's been going good. I did some threshold work the other day and um felt really strange. I did five by three minutes, so not sort of like a heap. That's only 15 minutes of threshold work. And, um yeah, it felt weird by the – felt my ah my legs were struggling to sort of move at the pace. My heart rate is actually all right. So I think, like, my cardiovascular fitness is not too bad. I just need to work back into that sort of mechanical sense of running.
00:29:01
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so um Yeah, that makes sense. Hopefully when I get back to running my fitness, that what I was able to do on the bike and other bits and pieces that I've been doing mean that it's sort of relatively fast to get back to where I was. But ah yeah, I'm just going with the flow at the moment and just knowing that that probably is to be expected that it will feel a bit weird.
00:29:21
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um But yeah, overall, it's pretty positive. Good stuff. Good to hear it. Very good to hear it. And yeah, it's always the thing on The Return where you're cardiovascularly more fit than you are. conditioned to be able to run that's the danger some people get into because it might feel bit easier cardio wise but your legs need to catch up so i'm glad i've got a plan that i'm sticking to mostly um that's given me um that's really sort of keeping me on track and um yeah i think until actually got my entry to uta this week um so for the 50k okay
00:30:00
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um Yeah, me too. yeah So hopefully I'll be running the 50K. We'll see. I've got to, I met with, I'm actually getting a little bit of coaching advice of Chris Jones from the UK.
00:30:12
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um He's an orientier and used to be an orientier now, quite a um proficient trail runner. um So he sort of knows both sides. So I've sort of had a chat to him the other day and we sort of come up with a plan um that will also involve Lockie's input as well as the physio um of what I need to do before UTA, like what benchmarks I need to do if I'm going to do the 50 because I don't want to do ah ah don't want to stand on a start line that I'm going to have trouble during the race with my Achilles. So, yeah, hopefully um yeah I've got enough time the to get ready for the 50, but otherwise I'll possibly drop down to the 22. But, yeah, aim is the 50.
00:30:54
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Nice, nice. Well, with any luck, we'll see you there. That'll be good. um Awesome,
Simone's Training Week Recap
00:31:01
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awesome. Well, for my week, my training week started off actually quite awesome.
00:31:08
Speaker
um I had a really good... start to the week just in the way that um my session on Tuesday I went in with a bit of a mindset of the Friday before if anyone remembers from a bit of my recap I slowed down um which I hated doing but I had a really off day like I was not well at all um but it was the 1k loop at Studley Park but the Friday I was doing one k's and four hundred This Tuesday, I kind of went in going, no, I want to nail this session because I know I can. And I just did six by 1K loop.
00:31:40
Speaker
um And I'd previously run my PB around this loop on the Friday a 3.57. And then went in, did six by 90 seconds and went did six by one k off ninety seconds um and went essential Like this was just my own real big tick of, yes, I have progressed um quite a lot in the last couple of years because two years ago my PB on this loop was 418.
00:32:05
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um And then when I last did this 6x1K session and then I went 402, 358, 356, 351, 352, 351. four ah two three fifty eight three fifty six three fifty one three fifty two three fifty one which felt awesome.
00:32:16
Speaker
Like I was surprised um and really, really freaking happy after this um this ah session. Then um got through the rest of the week, just my normal sort of jogging Wednesday long run, Thursday jogs. And I was getting prepped for my last big session before taper, um which I was driving out to Warburton to do on the Donna Double course.
00:32:40
Speaker
And The plan for the session, um I drove out that morning. It's just a 90-minute drive. So it's funny how I think it's a lot longer, but it's actually only like 15 minutes longer than I drive to some of the other places I go.
00:32:52
Speaker
um and I always forget that. But yeah, plan was to jog the River Loop. the river bit at the bottom, which is about a mile, like 1.6 K and then do all of the climb from the bottom of Marta to the top of Mount Victoria.
00:33:08
Speaker
Cause from there it kind of flattens off, um, as five minutes on two minutes off. Um, So, and I was trying to do the five minutes, like I was trying to stick true to race effort.
00:33:18
Speaker
So I wasn't necessarily going off heart rate at all, which my heart rate was never that high. Thankfully, I was kind of going, okay, this is the pace. I think I'll be going if I'm running this whole thing consistently, knowing that it's a two hour race kind of thing.
00:33:32
Speaker
um So that was good. The course is awesome. and There was a couple of things that I know they're getting rid of in terms of downed trees um and that sort of thing. But ah I actually ended up doing 10 by 5 minutes on, 2 minutes off and got a little further than the summit of Mount Victoria because I wanted to get that feeling of running flat off the top, off the climb.
00:33:54
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um and I think I did the climb in the same time overall that I did it when I won the race the second time, not the first time, i was faster the first time.
00:34:05
Speaker
But um yeah, I was pretty happy with my overall time up the climb given I was just walking the two minute breaks. um can Can confirm that all of the top section of trail has been beautifully trimmed. It is clear it is going to be fast on the day. So happy days is there because if that's overgrown,
00:34:22
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it gets damn slow. Other than one section of trail up to the summit where they got to get rid of all the blackberries. um But yeah, plan was to then jog the top loop off the back of the session. And I was moving pretty steady because I wanted to do the whole thing continuous and just see what time it took to do essentially from the bottom of Marta back to the bottom of Marta.
00:34:44
Speaker
and And I knew I was on track for sort of it somewhere between two hours 25-ish, which was going to be a good session. um And, yeah, got to the summit, started my way back down, um and I was only probably – actually,
Simone's Harrowing Snake Encounter
00:35:02
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I can tell you exactly. I was about 2.5km off the summit because I was still on the Mount Victoria walking track that goes across to Mount Donovue Ang.
00:35:11
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And I'm running along, feeling good and have that very typical trail runner feeling we get where you kick something on the ground and it flicks up and it flicks up between your legs and you sort of feel it for a second. And i because I was moving decently, the trail was clear. i was looking ahead.
00:35:26
Speaker
I looked down expecting to see stick or bark or something and it's a snake. which was not ideal at all. So I'd kind of, the ah everything was chaos to be fair, but the only thing I can sort of think is I think I kind of kicked it with my left leg and then it went between my legs as I'm running, but I carried it along with my momentum. And as I look down, its head kind of whips around my legs. So it's around, like between my ankles and then around my legs.
00:35:53
Speaker
And then i start proceeding to kind of scream and kick and jump a mile high. And because it was wrapped around me, it just, it felt like it took a lifetime to get off. In reality, it took a couple of seconds, but it was long enough that My goodness, I have never hyperventilated so much, so quickly and freaked out.
00:36:14
Speaker
um I kept running a little bit because I wanted, as soon as the snake was sort of off me, it went off into the bushes and I just kept running a little bit because I wanted to get away. um But then, yeah, essentially like the cascade of events from there lasted 24 freaking hours um because, yeah, I didn't, this part surprised me. I like, I didn't,
00:36:38
Speaker
I didn't know what I felt. I know I felt the snake around my legs and between my legs, never going to get that feeling out of my head. um But in the chaos of it all, as soon as it was off me and I was away, i went, I actually, i have no idea. I don't think I felt a bite. I didn't feel anything major, but I was also like so used to I was already covered in blood from blackberries and I was so used to kicking things and stuff. i was like, I don't know what I felt in those five seconds of chaos.
00:37:05
Speaker
So I'm actually in full panic mode, like hyperventilating. And then I call Matt first, my partner, because I'm like, I need to just get a hold of myself and calm down. um So he helps me calm down a little bit.
00:37:18
Speaker
um And yeah, that was where I found it wild was it because... mentally, like I was about hit to hit my favourite part of the downhill. i wasn't 100% sure if I'd been bitten.
00:37:29
Speaker
i knew that as soon as I make a call to emergency services, you're in that ride. Like there's no stopping that train anymore, which is the way it's meant to be. That's fine. and But it just surprised me that my brain first off went,
00:37:42
Speaker
I'm right to continue right like nothing happens it was yeah odd um then proceeded to thankfully I have a lot of doctors and medics on phone dial because I work for an endurance medical team so um got in contact with one of them and kind of went here's the situation and Deb Sharp she kind of went look Whether you felt anything or not, you had a snake around your legs, that's an aggressive encounter with a snake.
00:38:09
Speaker
Sit there, put a bandage on and lie still and call triple zero. So did that. um But the thing is that I like when I say I was covered in scratches, I had been through a blackberry bush.
00:38:21
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So. Not easy to tell, and I was bleeding from many different parts of my legs, so not easy to tell where anything is. I tried to wipe everything off, look for bites.
00:38:33
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There's lots of little holes in my legs. It was just that hard that I kind of went with most. There was a lot of blood on my outside ankle um down low, and I went, well, that part hurts.
00:38:43
Speaker
That part looks the most sinister at this point, so I'm going to wrap that leg in the bandage as I'm calling triple zero. um fun yeah Fun fact, as soon as you call triple zero, they just stay completely on the line until the paramedics arrive. So that was a 65-minute call in the end.
00:39:00
Speaker
um But yeah, I wrap my bandt i wrap my leg. I'm there thinking, am I just making a fuss over nothing here? Like it's probably a dry bite if it is a bite because – and this is where you've got too much knowledge sometimes. I know that 75% of bites are dry bites.
00:39:16
Speaker
Chances are I'm going to be totally fine. But then I'm like, well, do I really want to play Russian roulette with my life right now? Not really. So um also, if I continued running on Donna, like Brody, you know the course, if I got onto the next section down where it's real steep and then ran into trouble and felt bad,
00:39:35
Speaker
Like I'm in a world of trouble for them getting me out as well. So long story short, lay still. um This is where honestly i was living a nightmare for a solid 90 minutes because I'm on the ground, snake bandage wrapped around my leg, trying to lie as still as possible. I was on my phone to triple zero messaging my parents who were a half hour drive, who were like sort of 20 minute drive away.
00:40:00
Speaker
saying I need warm stuff because smart me had a bandage, dumb me had no blanket, no jacket, no nothing. So I'm in just sweaty singleton shorts. It wasn't that cold, but very quickly I'm shivering full body.
00:40:14
Speaker
And then I turn my head from side to side because I'm just on the trail and the grass around me around me is covered in leeches. And I'm just there like this is not fun right now.
00:40:26
Speaker
I'm being bitten by mosquitoes. There's leeches all around my head and I'm not supposed to be moving trying to get them away. But then essentially I was like that for It took 65 minutes for my dad to get to me.
00:40:39
Speaker
um So that was a long, long time in my head, um kind of lying there, seeing what was happening. um I did have the lady on triple zero on the phone the whole time. She was constantly checking in letting me know where the ambulance was at. They had a helicopter on the way too. Like it was SES were on the way. It was full cavalry, honestly. I was lying there like, oh my gosh, I feel horrible for causing such a fuss.
00:41:06
Speaker
But, yeah, anyway, the once the paramedics arrived, SES arrived, my obs were overall fine. um So they called off the helicopter, thankfully, and then they stretched me out with SES came and stretched me out.
00:41:20
Speaker
Paramedics aren't. allowed to do that. They're a road service. It's on emergency services or rescue Victoria sort of thing to get you out of the trail. and And they had to like drive up to the Mount Victoria tower, but the ambulance first went to the observatory tower at the top. Like they went to the wrong spot initially and then came and found me. That's why they took a little while.
00:41:42
Speaker
And um they had to get someone to like grind the lock off the gate to drive up to the tower um to then be only sort of 250 meters from me rather than K from me.
00:41:53
Speaker
But yeah, that was all going on while I'm lying there trying to breathe and stay calm and stop shivering, but I couldn't stop shivering. um And then this is where I learned what an adrenaline dump feels like because they get there and they start asking me how I'm feeling And I'm lying there going, I've been lying here for 65 minutes. I just went from running hard for two hours to lying as still as I can for over an hour.
00:42:19
Speaker
ah haven't in this time because I'm not thinking straight, I haven't eaten anything or drunk anything because I'm trying to be still. And so by the time they get to me, I'm of course not feeling great at all.
00:42:31
Speaker
Like they asked me how I am and I'm like, look, I think I'm fine, but yes, I'm nauseous. Yes, I'm dizzy. yes, I feel freaked out. So you're kind of showing some of the signs of a bite, whether it's there or not.
00:42:42
Speaker
um And then, yeah, they get me into the ambulance. I had a fun ride in an ambulance with lights and sirens. That was a bit of fun. um So not the whole time, thankfully, that actually might've done my head in because it was an hour trip in the ambulance as well to the hospital, to the closest hospital that dealt with snake bites.
00:43:02
Speaker
um So a whole hour in the ambulance later, we get to Maroondah Hospital. And then from there, essentially, as soon as you're a snake bite, suspected snake bite, it's a 12-hour process of clearing you from envenomation. So they do a blood test when you arrive. They do a blood test at one hours, six hours, and 12 hours.
00:43:22
Speaker
So getting there at like, honest I think it was about 3 p.m. by the time I got there. i was i My run-in with the snake was at 11.30 a.m. So I'm in the hospital by 3 p.m.
00:43:33
Speaker
and then they go, well, you're here till you hear the night because we're not going to release you until after the last set of bloods. um So, yeah, that was interesting times. Now, ah the the main thing was that like we couldn't, you couldn't see a obvious bite and I hadn't felt an obvious bite.
00:43:53
Speaker
So I'm still there going, geez, is this like all for nothing? What's going on? um But then it surprised me like overnight, for over the next few hours, a different, like below my knee was really itchy. And then yes, too like suspicious looking, still can't confirm they weren't blackberries, but there's also just no other blackberry cuts around them.
00:44:13
Speaker
and they look very suspicious puncture bites below my knee on the side that I didn't bandage. Well done me. um That was great tactics there.
00:44:23
Speaker
um So yeah, the Thishwos, it was chaotic. um I learned a lot about what adrenaline does to your brain and thinking straight. And obviously I have all the knowledge here and still couldn't necessarily think straight enough to put it fully into practice and take my time and be slow and be calm because yeah found out that's pretty hard to do but long story short um yeah as usual 75 percent of bites they're dry bites no signs of envenomation there was one of my blood tests they said came back
00:44:54
Speaker
with some minor concerning changes overnight, but then it was right again by the last blood test. So they were happy with me and I've have overall felt fine since, just felt a little shaken and I'm not entirely sure I'm looking forward to running the same section of trail in a week.
00:45:11
Speaker
But we'll see how that goes down mentally. I might just run really fast for that section to get through it. um But, yeah, that's my little, that was my little 24-hour slash 48-hour in the end trying to recover um rendezvous with little snake um before. That's crazy.
00:45:34
Speaker
Yeah. yeah i'm Happy to hear, happy to hear that you're okay. But also, you had probably a bigger adventure than what I had for my whole Indian. Yeah.
00:45:46
Speaker
Oh, honestly, wouldn't wish it upon anyone. And I've chatted to a few people that have been in similar circumstances that they themselves also, they've got the knowledge. Like I chatted to a doctor who was like, yeah, I found a bite 24 hours. I had an encounter with a snake, not knowing that I had the bite.
00:46:01
Speaker
And I'm like, well, yeah. um Because the things that run through your head is like, I didn't want it to be happening. So it's like my first instinct was keep running and pretend nothing happened kind of thing, which is not the smartest move.
00:46:14
Speaker
um And yes, at the end of the day, we're in Australia. Emergency services know how to deal with this stuff. They take it very seriously and it's very rare for and and there to be anything go really wrong with a snake bite because we know how to deal with it. Like if you can get a call out to triple zero and you can lie still, you'll be fine.
00:46:33
Speaker
That's what the stats show. so And I knew that, but it's funny how even knowing that you're lying there going, But am I going to be the one? Like what's going on here? And then because by the time I got in the ambulance, this was the other fun thing. We're trail runners. So I'm dehydrated and my blood sugar was down at 3.0, which is really low.
00:46:53
Speaker
And I'm not sure I've ever had a blood test that low. So that itself is causing me to feel horrible. So I'm going, well, do I feel horrible because of all this or do I feel horrible because I've been bitten?
00:47:04
Speaker
Like so it's a mental screw up, that's for sure. um Yeah, interesting times for sure. But don't don't ah don't recommend kicking a snake um if you can avoid it I've jumped so many in my life that it's just it feels like freak timing and sort of one of those accidents that happens We all have as a nightmare, but it's also very, very rare to actually happen, thankfully.
First Aid and Preparedness for Trail Emergencies
00:47:32
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um But yeah, I somehow managed to be the one. Did kick a stick and it was a snake. you I actually have learned quite a lot from listening to you, what you should do when you actually um might think that you got bitten by a snake or you got bitten by a snake. And hopefully some of the listeners also learned something because,
00:47:51
Speaker
um Yeah, I think like haven't seen too many snakes, but it's always in my mind. And in summer, i actually try and stay away from single trails because ah like I don't run with music because i'm like I want be aware of snakes.
00:48:05
Speaker
um but yeah Yeah, which I will add, I had music in. It was in my shocks and I'd never have it too loud, but I was listening to music at the time of this. So that is one safety factor that being in a snaky area, ideally, I wouldn't have been.
00:48:20
Speaker
um I also find it very funny that as I was packing my pack that morning, like I go to put one snake bandage in my pack, I have a second one in my car and I go, nah, I won't need it. I have my jacket sitting right there and I go, oh, nah, it's warm. I won't need it.
00:48:34
Speaker
They're both sitting in my car down there and tell you what, for that 65 minutes, I'm kicking myself that I'm lying on that trail going, I wish I had those items right now. So yeah, I suppose in summary, four people that I've learned all this.
00:48:47
Speaker
I did wilderness first aid one week earlier timing. um But for those that aren't aware, yes, we actually have very good chances when it comes to all snake bites that things will be fine, but the things you need to do ah You call triple zero straight away. They will talk you through it anyway.
00:49:04
Speaker
But ideally you carry two snake bandages and there's two reasons for that. One is that if ideally on your leg, if you can see a bite and find a bite, you actually put two bandages on that leg to get all the way from your toes.
00:49:18
Speaker
up to your groin. um And this why I also learned that I have one of this proper, you want one of these, the proper snake bun bandages with the indicators. So the indicators, they start as a rectangle, you pull it to the shape of a square, and that's the right tension on the bandage. So it tells you the tension.
00:49:34
Speaker
Now, I knew this, I was trying to do it, but doing it on yourself is quite hard. And with adrenaline, I actually put the bandage on too tight. So by the time the ambulance got there, I had like almost no capital capillary refill in my foot.
00:49:46
Speaker
um So, which is what you don't want to happen. But at the same time, ideally you have two bandages, even if it's just for the one leg, because one bandage will go with the whole way up your arm from your fingers to your shoulder, but it won't go the whole way up your leg.
00:50:00
Speaker
Now, in my case, kind of wanted one for the other leg as well like I was trying to get it this high at one leg but then I was like well but what is the chance that it was the other like I don't know so um that's the main thing carry those but also i will now be carrying my bivvy or snake blanket or um space blanket um if or slash jacket and jacket a lot more um slash all the time when I'm out on trails now because yeah it's one of those dumb things where you know it's smart to do but How often do we go out without them because you feel like you're going to be fine and it's not going to happen to you?
00:50:34
Speaker
um Well, yeah, learn the hard way that it does happen to sort of everyone. um so yeah, as long as you you call triple zero, you put a bandage on ideally you've got the indicators. It helps you guide you to just put it a whole way up your limb and then lie still.
00:50:50
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And if you lie still, even if you have got a bite, a wet bite that has venom in your body, if you're not moving, the venom can't get around your body. at least not very quickly at all.
00:51:02
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Like if you just lie still, even if you don't have a bandage and you've got a call to triple zero out, you will be fine um because the venom requires body movement to move through the lymph because it goes in the lymph first.
00:51:15
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um So i think that's the main thing that I always have used as sort of reassurance to go, well, if I get bit by a snake, you lie still, you'll be fine. Like don't stress too much.
00:51:27
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Now I was lying still, but then I was stressing because I was shivering all over. And I'm like, well, this defeats the purpose of lying still. So lesson learned there. Also try and carry something so you can stay warm.
00:51:39
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Um, And, yeah, like at that point, as soon as you've got a call out, then they'll talk you through it anyway. So, yeah, as long as you're prepared, everything will be fine.
00:51:50
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And I learned that. It was a whole – it was all systems go. i think three SES trucks rocked up. I had so many people there. It was kind of overwhelming. um But it was also good to go, well,
00:52:01
Speaker
know Even if it was the worst case scenario, like help was there right as soon as it could be. um It wasn't going to go too far downhill no matter what. So hopefully that reassures people. this is This is not a, I'm hoping I'm not putting people off trails right now.
00:52:17
Speaker
and i think I think probably the most important thing is to run with your phone and remember that it's 000 and not 911. Oh, yeah. Also, I have the Vic Emergency app. but um So, yes, a lot of your watches might have longitude, latitude, those sorts of things.
00:52:32
Speaker
But sometimes I find mine says it's trying to find my location and it's not completely working. um So I have the Vic Emergency app, which you can call 000 through, but also it will just, the screen shows you your longitude, latitude, which is the easiest way for them to find you, especially on a trail.
00:52:48
Speaker
That was interesting trying to explain to them how to get the ambulance to me because I knew exactly how to get them there, but it seemed to be a whole like rigmarole trying to actually talk them through it. um So yeah, definitely you want your long lat as well. That's going to be the most important thing that the ambulance wants to know. Yeah.
00:53:06
Speaker
Yeah. Have we we covered that story enough? I'm back running. I ran on Sunday. All is fine. i will be at Warby. I might be a little, little freaked out a little bit at times, but I will be fine. That's just a mental game. I've got to play with myself for a little while.
00:53:21
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um But, yeah, any questions? yeah Brady, what were you going to say before? I was just going to say it was good podcast content at the least. That's why you did it.
00:53:33
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oh I also don't know how much noise a snake makes, so I'm not sure you would have heard it if you didn't have music anyway. Like often they're just sitting on the track sunbathing and that's where you come around the corner and it's there.
00:53:46
Speaker
Yeah, I think that was the case. And the the lucky thing is that when a snake isn't expecting you and a snake is just sunbathing, that's the time you'll almost never get a venomized bite because the thing is that snakes don't actually want to produce venom unless they have to because it takes time and it takes energy.
00:54:01
Speaker
So they'll only do it when they're fully prepared, like if they've seen you coming ah like or like they're already under threat. um So if you catch a snake by by surprise, like you've got a very good chance that there's no venom that they've even got um at that point in time.
00:54:15
Speaker
So, um yeah, I think that was the case. i Because I have heard, i have with my music on heard snakes before and seen them when they're actually fully moving through stuff because I don't actually have it that loud ever.
00:54:28
Speaker
um But, yeah, this one there was no warning whatsoever. I guess the main takeaway for me is like I always assume like, yeah, yeah that's never going to happen. Like we've got I've got my snake bandage or and often like usually I would, but I'm like, oh, the chances of it happening are so low. So I think this this scenario, this experience just reminded me that like it legitimately can happen and you should therefore not let your Don't let your guard down and therefore at the very least have your phone. If you go into a place that doesn't have full service, definitely take a snake bandage. Probably take a snake bandage on every solo run you go on.
00:55:04
Speaker
um Yeah. And the jacket. And group run. What if someone else? Someone else might need it as much as you. but you I guess you should be extra, extra careful when you're going by yourself.
00:55:15
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Yeah, 100%. 100%. Like, yeah, I certainly, I think my brain's not going to let me not be careful for a while or now. Slightly traumatized. ah But yeah, not too bad. And also, funnily enough, I have got a few, I did my reel on Instagram and I have got a few comments about the song, that Badger, Badger, Badger, Badger song.
00:55:36
Speaker
honestly came to my head while I was lying in the ground um it was like trying to keep myself calm and I'm there singing badger badger badger mushroom mushroom like yeah I am my brain is strange I will admit to that ah um Cool.
00:55:53
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Cool. That's about enough fun for this week. What a
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00:55:55
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00:56:47
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So get over there, order some stuff and keep showing up. Hope you guys enjoyed that one. And to be fair, this episode is not about to get any less fun for us in particular because ah we have a couple of races coming up next weekend to run through that are pretty damn big races.
00:57:04
Speaker
um So we'll start off with ah Donna Double. which is, well, the whole of Warby Trail Fest. it's ah It's a great big weekend. Honestly, one of my favourite, well, my favourite weekend in trail running, um but just because of the amount of things they put on and bring the community together with.
00:57:22
Speaker
But, yeah, this is the first round of the Golden Trail National Series, which has had recently over the weekend or last Friday, had the rules for 2025 and the prizes for 2025
00:57:37
Speaker
fully updated um and published on the website. There has been a few changes, ah mainly that there's actually not that many Golden Trail National Series um series around the world anymore. There's no more in Europe.
00:57:50
Speaker
um They're kind of going more towards just trying to encourage people attending the World Series, especially when it's more accessible. ah But we still do have ah Asia-Pacific National Series. So there's Japan, South Korea,
00:58:04
Speaker
China and Australia um left. So there's those four. um Now for the prizes, that means there's a slight shift as well just because the Golden Trail World Series final, there is no longer a National Series category.
00:58:18
Speaker
ah So it's just a straight final. But the ma the open, just the overall winner, male and female of all the National Series, still get their ticket. But the prize is that you go race and you race against the best in the world just in the elite category like with everyone.
00:58:34
Speaker
and or the open category. So ah long story short, the prize or the overall prize is just one male, one female, the outright winners of the national series.
00:58:45
Speaker
There is also cash prizes listed on the website. um I can't remember off the top of my head what they are, so I'm not about to put my foot in it and say them. I've got them if you want. Oh, you've got them? Sweet, go.
00:58:56
Speaker
Yeah, first is $1,250 plus the golden ticket, which you'll touch on a second. ah Second $950, third $750, fourth $500 and then there's a under 23 category for the prize money for $500.
00:59:13
Speaker
Perfect. Yeah. So, yeah. So the the golden ticket, which is the all expenses paid trip to true the final um to go race in the final. Yeah. That's just open. There's no longer an under 23 category ah for the golden ticket.
00:59:27
Speaker
So the under 23, someone that's under 23 can still win, but they've got to win overall. um and But there is that separate under 23 category just for the prize money. So that's a little different to what we went through in the first episode of Targeting Ticket because we went off um last year's rules.
00:59:47
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um But they have been updated since. And that's coming from the whole global system. This is how the new system is for this year. And i we'll see how it is in future.
00:59:57
Speaker
But that's at least all updated for now before our season's the first one to get started um because all the others start a little while later. But, yeah, that summarized it well enough, Brodie, you reckon?
01:00:08
Speaker
Yeah, I think so. think so. Cool. Cool. Awesome. Well, starting out with Warby Trail Fest Donna Double, Brodie, I'll get you to run through what men do we have to look out for? Yeah, so we've got we've got a fair few coming along to the first race, which is great to see. Yeah.
01:00:26
Speaker
I'll just chuck out a... I'll go through all the names. So we've got... um so Some of these are some ones we pulled out from the start list, so sorry if we missed you. i David Bailey from Tasmania.
01:00:37
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um ah Declan McKenzie. Jack Gill from up in Queensland. Toby Lang, who is the under-23 winner and is on our... targeting the ticket. and We heard from Toby a few weeks ago ah last week.
01:00:50
Speaker
um Michael Kernaghan from Victoria, he's a really accomplished sort of ah road and cross-country runner and he was racing on last year and was first to the top, I believe. Maybe came sixth or seventh in the end, but he's a really good uphill runner, it'd be cool to see how he goes this year.
01:01:06
Speaker
Nigel Preston, ah working for Singletrack. He's done this race a few times before, I believe. Tom Dade. We often see Tom running a lot of races and winning a lot of races, so it'd be cool to see how he goes in there and this field. Toby Sparks, who's also from Tasmania, recently ran a Cadbury Marathon, I think, in Hobart too,
01:01:30
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high 220s i believe and then yeah actually ran gone nuts last weekend the 50k so might be close to race day but we'll see how toby goes our very own vlad exel running off the back of his own marathon so we'll see how vlad goes um And Zach Newsham, who's also, believe, under 23. He's from up in Queensland, has been in a few Worlds teams and whatnot. So, yeah, it's pretty pretty good field, a bunch of people. So it'd be exciting.
01:01:59
Speaker
I think there's yeah there' really anyone in that list possibly could get the win. So it'll be cool to see. Who's your pick, Ben? Come on, don't hedge your bets. Who's pick? oh How you feeling, Vlad?
01:02:10
Speaker
Feeling covered? A little bit cold. yeah Yeah, well, if it was anything last year, it might be really hot because last year it was like 30 degrees or something and the bottom part of the climb was really hard because it was so hot, and but it was a bit cooler up top. um Yeah, I don't know. I think if Toby... It's like 25 degrees. Yeah. 23 degrees, sorry. 23, it should be good.
01:02:35
Speaker
Yeah, there Vlad's from Perth, so he'll be all right. I'm going to pick Vlad. um That's not podcast bias, but I think Vlad might be the strongest there in the... Well, it is a bit of podcast bias, but um the I think Vlad might be the strongest there, but I think... um yeah Michael Kernaghan will be interesting to see if he's done any more downhill from last year. I follow him on Strava. I'm not sure that I've seen any sort of specific training, but I think that's where he struggled a bit last year. it'll be interesting to see how he goes now doing it again.
01:03:07
Speaker
ah Toby Sparks I would have picked to go fairly well as well, um but he ran 50k last weekend. I actually think an outside chance, my sort of um outside chance is Toby Lang. He's...
01:03:19
Speaker
had a good season last year. He's young and he's getting, really he just seems to have stepped up a lot. So yeah, if you want to hear a little bit more about Toby's prep and what he's been doing, um you can listen to the Target and the Ticket episode. But yeah, I'm excited to see how Toby goes because I think he could be, um sorry, this is Toby Lang. He could ah be on for a good one.
01:03:39
Speaker
Yeah, I reckon with Toby's recent, what it was it, 5K PB, like he's he's coming into form, 1527, he's a year older. Like I'm going to say Toby's going to be right up there.
01:03:50
Speaker
Koerner's I'm going to give first to the top again um yeah I think you might go with him but yeah um at the same time Koerner's is usually the first to the top and he's a bit he's a beast on the way up there but um but yeah Vlad how are you feeling in that field like are you backing yourself in um yeah i'm not 100% sure um like I said like I don't feel like 100% fit but also obviously I'm I'm in an okay shape so um Yeah, maybe like run the uphill conservatively and then save it for the downhill.
01:04:25
Speaker
Yep. It's a good call. It's a very fast downhill if you've got the legs and the capability to do it. so um And do you have any idea on what sort of – is your level of contentment going to be based on a place, based on time from previous years or like just how it feels in the day?
01:04:43
Speaker
Yeah, just how it feels. I mean, I think that, you know, even signing up to this race, I knew it was going to be really close to this trip to India. And um I think like I said, probably a few episodes ago, my main goal was just to do a bit more races in Australia.
01:04:57
Speaker
um So I just signed up. I think I'll just send you a message. It was like, oh I think might just do it. And you said, yeah, do it. And i was like, you'll love it. no You know, the good thing it's it realistically, it's a pretty short trip. It's only like three days. So not a really big deal. So yeah, I'm just there to be a part of it. And I will be doing more race in Australia this year. So this is just the first one out of a few.
01:05:20
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Good stuff. Good stuff. Well, on the women's side, ah there is, again, ah good few names that I'm looking forward to ah being on the start line with.
01:05:31
Speaker
A couple of under 23s, Maddie O'Donnell. I think she's from like Blackheath up in near the Blue Mountains. um i believe is an under 23 coming through and from vic mia noble she's on the start list now too so um yeah i think those two will be right up there we've also got coming across from wa annika keel i'm hoping i pronounced your last name wrong right there annika ah Annika was fourth at last year's Transcend Ultra, big difference in distance.
01:06:05
Speaker
But, um yeah, if she's coming all the way across from WA, I'm going to say that she's going to be prepared to race. And ah then who else we got? Demi Caldwell, who recently, I think, was um racing two bays in Jan. I'm not sure if she's raced since, but she did quite well at two bays.
01:06:23
Speaker
Courtney Gilfillan, who has come from triathlon background up in, is it Queensland I think she's from? Maybe. um Should have looked this up again. Yeah. ah Bridget Lunn, who everyone can hear about her um build towards this ah in targeting the ticket as well. She's one of ah the people on that epis on that series for us and she fantastic She did race last year um and she did come top 10 last year but has come leaps and strides since then in trail and is very new to trail running.
01:06:57
Speaker
ah So then ended the season with a third at the final. So I'm gonna be very interested. I reckon she can take a very long time off her time from last year. So I'll be very interested to see how she does. And then, yeah, myself, um I'm in there. I am very excited to be going back to Donna. I haven't raced this one since 2020 now. So, yeah.
01:07:16
Speaker
yeah so It's been a while since I've done this course, but I did actually get a good taste for the uphill on my session on Friday still. So I'm a little bit more mentally in tune with what I'm in for and how much it bloody hurts in that middle section but it gets real good after which is the tip I'll give you Vlad from 6k's onwards it's a fast race up till 6k's it's a slow race um because yeah that after that first sort of maybe 7k's after that first aid station and road crossing everything is smooth moving um but before that it's just about 4k's of a horrible climb um so
01:07:52
Speaker
so seven k Yeah, exactly. Like you can honestly, you can fly from there onwards. it's Yes, it's still uphill and parts, but it's the gradients, not much. Good portion of it's on gravel um and yeah, smooth across the top and then you absolutely fly down. So the course feels really long for those sort of three, 4K of the steeper section.
01:08:13
Speaker
But um after that, it's yeah, all very much smooth sailing. So if you've got good legs off the top of that climb, it's um It's really good going. So, yeah, I think it'll be a real cool race on the women's front too.
Warby Trail Fest Race Strategies
01:08:28
Speaker
um um I don't know if I want to give my bets on how it's going to go down because I'm not entirely sure. I will say, yes, I am out there trying. Like I'm going to see how close I can get to the time, the very impressive time Lara set last year 2.04.
01:08:43
Speaker
um at two ah four I have the, I run 208 high in 2018 when I first ran it. But then in 2020 when I ran it, um I don't remember the conditions or anything, but I ran like 215.
01:08:56
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So um yeah, I think I'm hoping to be, I'm going to say under 205, but at the same time, have no idea. haven't run it in five years. So we will see what progress I've made in five years.
01:09:12
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Yeah. Were backing yourself in, Sim, in that field? um Look, realistically, I know that I i do remember that 215. I do remember some of take, like I was one of the tactics. I was my faster time downhill because I took it fairly easy on the climb.
01:09:27
Speaker
And even that 215 last year would have put me in second. behind Lara. So like, I know I'm, I like this course. I'm good on this course. So yes, I'm going to be there to win and I will, but I will absolutely love any company up the front as possible and a race, the closer the race, the more fun I'll have out there.
01:09:46
Speaker
So um I'm not an all expecting an easy win. I'm hoping there's as many girls near the front as possible. um But that's the competitor in me is going to absolutely love flying down that hill. and if there's anyone in front of me, I'll be, I'll be chasing pretty hard.
01:10:00
Speaker
Nice. Who you most scared about? i don't know i like i've I've not seen a lot of these girls on this sort of terrain. That's that's the thing. like it's It's a long climb. like Mia, I know, is probably going to be very good at climbing, um but I've i've never raced her, never seen what she's like on a descent. So um I'm fully expecting to not be leading it out.
01:10:23
Speaker
like I'm If I know how to race this race and I'm more than prepared to let a few people go at the beginning because I plan on as I've said, like people can know my tactic, I plan on getting to that 7K aid station with a lot of running left in my legs and fanging the downhill.
01:10:39
Speaker
um But also because I want a fast time, like it's kind of a case of I'll be pushing, um but goal number A is the win, goal number B is the time and this one.
01:10:52
Speaker
So, See how we go. Nice. Nice. It looks like a really good field. Like it's good to see like a bunch of women, like that's that's a decent size field. Like it's nice when you get more than five of like yeah notable names.
01:11:08
Speaker
So, yeah, that's really exciting. It'll be interesting to see how it plays out. Yep, I'm going to be having a lot of fun. Now, um in the other races, just a few names of note, unless either of you have anything else to add on Donna Double.
01:11:24
Speaker
But, um yeah, cool. The 50K, a couple names of note. Vlad Chatrov, he's coming down to race the 50K after getting the win last year.
01:11:35
Speaker
um And then Sarah Tapp, who is quite um an accomplished runner in her own right. Her name stood out in the fifty k um But I did only have a cursory glance. So 21 run in the 50K that I've missed.
01:11:47
Speaker
I apologise. And then just a couple other names that quickly stood out. Sarah Klein, one of our Oz marathon reps at World Champs, is down for the 27K, which is a nice overall flat, fast 27K with a 1K climb to start and 1K climb to end, descent to end.
01:12:06
Speaker
And ah podcast, friend of the podcast, Kate Avery, She's rather pregnant at this point, 23, 24 weeks or so, but she's racing the 14K. um And just seeing her in training, she's probably still going to run bloody fast because she's not slowed down a huge amount yet.
01:12:23
Speaker
um But, yeah, that I think sums up the Warby Trail Fest. um There'll be a lot going down other than those races too. That's just a few of the notable ones. And then Brodie, six-foot track.
Preview of Six Foot Track and Other Race Highlights
01:12:37
Speaker
Yeah, so we've got ah another big event on the same weekend. Six Foot Track is, yeah, quite ah got quite a bit of history and always attracts quite a strong field.
01:12:48
Speaker
um So, yeah, we've got a bit of a throwdown happening in and both the the men and the women. In the men, we've got, I'll just read out some names. We've got David Byrne, Rhett Gibson, Morgan Lindquist, Mike Carroll, Joe McGrath.
01:13:04
Speaker
Dean McNamara, Sam Burridge. I'm sure there's a few more that I may have missed that might be right up there as well. Also got Sean Crichton running, which is which is very fun for those who know. He's quite a well-known name in the running world.
01:13:19
Speaker
um So, yeah, it's it looks like it's going to be a pretty good race. I know both Rhett and Morgan have really high ITRA scores. I don't know any of their sort of big results off the top, but they're always at the top of the ITRA list, so they've definitely got some um good results.
01:13:36
Speaker
Mike Carroll um has definitely had some um great races over 40 to 40. Yeah, even longer distance, 40 up to 100 distance. um Joe McGrath also always good up in that sort of Blue Mountain stuff. So, yeah, I think that's going to be a good race.
01:13:53
Speaker
um I don't know who would be my pick. ah Maybe Mike Carroll. He seems to always be training really well in Canberra. um So be interesting to see how he goes. But, yeah, I don't know i don't know the current form of all those other guys. So it'll be interesting to see how that one plays out.
01:14:09
Speaker
Any thoughts? Yeah. I'm, yeah, honestly, like then none of them are names that I'm super-duper aware of. So I'm going to, like I definitely know Rhett and Mike Carroll probably, like they'll be right up there. But, yeah, I think overall by the looks of all of those names, it's going to be, as usual for six-foot track, quite close racing.
01:14:32
Speaker
but Yeah, I reckon there'll be a bit of bunch racing there, which would be cool to see. Yep. And then on the women's? Yeah. And then in the women's, we've got um again, pretty strong, strong field. So we've got some so really accomplished trail runners, Lou Clifton, Steph Austin, who's I think won Six Foot Track a few times, maybe won it last year, I believe.
01:14:53
Speaker
um Sarah Leavitt, who we know from UTA, was it, that she did have quite good result last year? UTA and then UTK, she was battling that with Jess. Yes, that's it.
01:15:05
Speaker
So she had both of them. And then coming to the trails, but I don't know if has done any other trail races before, but this, I guess, Six Foot Track is well-known maybe for being...
01:15:17
Speaker
um this sort of transition point for road runners to get out there and have a go at trail. But we've got Marnie Ponton, who is quite an accomplished marathon runner. Sim, is that right? um Ultra more so recently. She's been doing the 100Ks. She's training up for um ah South Africa race.
01:15:36
Speaker
Oh, yes, Comrades. Yeah, i did hear that. She's training up for Comrades. She has done a few trail races. I believe she might have even done six-foot track before. Okay, cool. But can confirm Steph Austin won on the female side last year. Rhett Gibson was actually second behind James Nipperus, who's not racing this year.
01:15:53
Speaker
um So Rhett certainly has the pedigree there in terms of recent results on the course. um He ran 3.38, so he was even five minutes ahead of third place last year.
01:16:06
Speaker
so And then, yeah, Steph Austin won year. behind ah with Kelly Emerson behind her last year, who which Kels is not on the start list. But yeah, title that gives an idea of I'm going to put my money on Rhett based on that result because he's going to be hungry for the win after coming second, surely.
01:16:24
Speaker
Yeah, definitely. Yeah, I think he's probably a good good one of the favourites. I think Mike and maybe even Joe McGrath will probably give a run for his money, but it will be, i can imagine those three and maybe some of the other guys in a nice little pack out the front. So yeah, it'd be cool to see how that that goes i reckon there'll be a quick time from someone this year and fun fact marnie won six foot track all the way back in 2017 damn there you go okay three hours 50 so it doesn't look like she's raced it since but she has won it before a very long time ago cool well we get to see how she goes maybe against some more of the traditional trail runners ah her versus steph would be a good good race i reckon
01:17:06
Speaker
Yeah, it'll be a lot of fun. Awesome. So there a couple of the races coming up next, sorry, races coming up next weekend. For couple of quick results of races that did just happen over the weekend, just quickly there was the Bogong Conquestathon.
01:17:22
Speaker
That is ah from the bottom to the top of Mount Bogong and back down via the staircase. yeah, Ian Best got the win there in two hours and seven minutes, which was a very big win because second place was Hugo Lee in two hours 21, third Minter Barnard in two hours 27. So Ian, incredible uphill runner, and I've no doubt he was incredibly quick to the top and then held on very well for the win in a quick time.
01:17:53
Speaker
On the women's front, Jaz Volmer. She was first in 2 hours 36, which is also seems damn quick for the course that it is. And then Nicole McKilliam was second in 2 hours 47 and third was Mimi Bennett in 2 hours 48. So,
01:18:10
Speaker
so Also, fourth was two hours 49. So there was only two less, sorry, about 80 seconds separating second and fourth on the women's front. So bit of a close race there, much closer than on the men's side.
01:18:23
Speaker
And then Brodie, we also had something down in Tassie, Gone Nuts. Yeah, so Gone Nuts happened, which is up on the northwest coast. ah nears So it starts near Stanley Nut, or one of the races might even start there, which is like this like little rock outcrop at this town called Stanley. It's a bit of a funky place.
01:18:44
Speaker
It's pretty cool. um And it runs through Rocky Cape National Park. um So it's a really nice coastal race. um And we had, yeah, a lot of, I think it's quite a popular race on the Tasmanian region.
01:18:56
Speaker
trail running calendar, um one of the first races for the year um and always seems to get quite a good field. um They do have quite a few distances, so like the runners are spread across a few of the different distances. I'll just pick out some of the um of the the main stuff. So in the 25K in the men, Piotr Babis won in 158.20 and I believe he got the course record for that course as well.
01:19:21
Speaker
Not far behind was David Bailey in 201.25. So David's running on a double this weekend. So be interesting to see how he goes backing up from that. But he looks like he's in good shape. And third was Thomas Merton in 201.31.
01:19:35
Speaker
In the women there, Jen Phillips was first in 225.59. Second was Rachel Young in 232.59. third was Felicity Lovett in 235.43. and third was felicity lovet in two thirty five forty three ah In the 50K, we had Ben Burgess, who we spoke about a bit last year. He's from Victoria, believe, but he has moved over to Tassie to live for a few months, um which is pretty cool. So he's going around doing...
01:20:03
Speaker
different races he was doing he did um cradle mountain ultra now he's done this one and i think he's running the tarkin race uh in i don't know when that is it might be in a couple of weeks and then he's running kmr so he's over there doing some cool tassie adventures i'm very jealous um he won the 50k in four hours 10 26 and twenty six Second place was Toby Sparks, who we spoke about before, in 4 hours 17, 26. And from what I read, Toby went out really fast to try and get Piotr's course record for the 50K.
01:20:37
Speaker
um And he was sort of running pretty strong for a good portion, but unfortunately blew up a little bit um and got passed by Ben at the end. But he did hang on to second, so a good run from Toby. um And third was Gerald McPherson in 4 hours 39. In the females,
01:20:51
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in the fa First was Hannah McRae in 5 25.01. Second was Mel Clark in 5 hours 27.01. And third was Tracy Tasker in 5.59.
01:21:04
Speaker
Just give the winners of the other races. So there was a 75k. Gareth Hines was first in the men in 8 hours 26. And Jesse Whittle was first in the women but also second overall um in 8 hours 55. So it's a pretty impressive run from Jesse. I don't think I've heard...
01:21:22
Speaker
her name before but good on her great race i have she's she's very good okay cool what's she what's that what's she done before oh now you're testing me is she from the mainland though no i think she's from tassie okay there you go um letting out i can tell you that much yeah um there she was third at kmr solo last year i sixty six okay fantastic yeah um and she's come top 10 at tara where a miler Okay, there you go
01:21:53
Speaker
Okay, so quite accomplished. Sorry for that, Jesse, not knowing you, but well done. Great race. And then in the 100K, Angus Tolson, who we spoke about um few weeks ago, I believe he was first at the Cradle Mountain Ultra, i managed to knock off Matt Cran in a really good race. He backed up and won the 101K in 10 hours and eight minutes.
01:22:18
Speaker
And Anna Pillinga won the... female race in 11 hours 23.13 so also quite an impressive time. um for the 100k there.
01:22:29
Speaker
um It is a bit like tough. It's a classic Tassie tough trail. um Looks really nice in places and it's quite hard going in different places. So, yeah, I think there's some pretty decent times.
01:22:42
Speaker
um But, yeah, that was gone nuts. Anna has also come, she was 10th at UTA 100 last year. yeah She's got a top 10 there and has got some very good results around the country over the last few years as well.
01:22:54
Speaker
Yeah, I definitely know the name. Um, fantastic. Yeah, cool. That was gone nuts. So we had one other, um, result, uh, that we going to read out and that was Billy Curtis running at, um, Simon ultra trail in China.
01:23:10
Speaker
Um, he did the 20 K distance there. I think Billy's doing a fair bit of racing in Asia. Yeah. I think he's put up his schedule. If you want to go and have a look at his page. Um, he doesn't sound like he had his greatest race but he said he learned a lot of things about how to race in china um but he did manage to sort of have a strong finish and come third place um in that uh 20k distance but i believe it was more like 26 or something like that um so yeah good work there billy putting yeah putting australia on the map is just a
01:23:43
Speaker
Everyone else in the race, I think, is Chinese ah in the top 10. So, Philly's put Australia in the top 10, which is cool. um Represent. And, yeah, we know the Chinese runners, there's a lot of lot of good runners. So, I'm sure the field was was fairly strong.
01:23:59
Speaker
So, yeah, even though it was yeah always is he didn't he wasn't super pleased, I think it's still a good result and still good to sort of learn things on racing in different places. Yeah, for
Closing Remarks and Listener Interaction Encouragement
01:24:10
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sure.
01:24:10
Speaker
For sure. Awesome. Well, that sums up the results from this week and what's coming up next week. Overall, it's just Sick Foot Track, Warby Trail Fest. There's a couple of other in Queensland, Kumbaba Trail Run and another one of the Southeast Queensland Trail Run Series at Hins Dam.
01:24:25
Speaker
But on the whole, it's already ah very big weekend with all the races we've gone through. And I think for us, that sums up the pod for this week. It's been a big week. So please continue to send through all listener questions, comments, feedback. We are open to everything. DMs are open on Instagram at peakpursuits.pod.
01:24:47
Speaker
And, yeah, thank you so much for listening. And what have you – oh, I suppose we've all just got races coming up this weekend between Brodie's Orienteering and me and Vlad both at Donna Double.
01:24:59
Speaker
So should be a fun week. I'll see you on Friday, Vlad. Yeah, I'll see you on Friday. Yeah, nice. Well, good luck, guys. I'm excited to watch and good luck to everyone racing this weekend. Yeah, awesome. Thanks so much for listening, everyone. We'll speak to you next week. you, guys. See you.