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Episode 431: What happens when a team doesn’t win a ‘must-win’ match?
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For a half, all was seemed good in the Sounders world. They were flying around the field, scoring goals and beating the Timbers at home. They took a 2-0 lead into halftime that easily could have been 3-0, but just as importantly were making the plays they needed to make to keep the Timbers off the scoreboard.
We all know what happened next. Léo Chu picked up what I still insist was a pretty soft second yellow card, the Sounders went down a man and the Timbers came roaring back to tie the game and ultimately claim a point.
Jeremiah and Aaron unpack it all and come away with some very mixed feelings.
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Introduction by Christian Roldan and Jordan Morris
00:00:00
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Hey, this is Christian Roldan. And Jordan Morris from the Seattle Sounders Football Club. And you're listening to NOS Arietes. This episode of NOS Arietes is sponsored by Full Pull Wines, a Seattle-based wine retailer and proud sponsor of NOS Arietes since 2011.
Celebration of Sounders' MLS Cup Win
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A.O. Shen! Let's go! What a save by Fry! The Seattle Sounders have done it! MLS Cup win! Here come three years through the middle to crown it the vehicle! And now they truly can't stop the celebrations. It's the Sounders' MLS Cup! Niko Liddo leaves out!
00:01:12
Speaker
Is that what you young people call twerking?
Match Analysis vs Portland Timbers
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Welcome to another edition of NOS Adiatus, sponsored by Fullpool Wines, Watson's Counter, and our subscribers. This is episode 431, and we're recording on Wednesday, September 6, 2023. I am your host, Jeremiah Shan. Joining me today is my co-host, Aaron, and our producer, Lickit. Four and a half all seemed good in the sounder's world. They were flying around the field, scoring goals, and beating the timbers at home.
00:01:53
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They took a 2-0 lead into halftime and eat that easily could have been 3-0, but just as importantly were making the plays they needed to make to keep the timbers off the scoreboard. We all know what happened next. Leochou picked up what I will still insist was a pretty soft second yellow card. The Sounders went down a man and the timbers came roaring back to tie the game and ultimately claim a point. I am still annoyed about that, but I also have some mixed feelings about what this all means.
00:02:20
Speaker
But let's start with you, Aaron. How are you feeling? And what does this say about the Sounders chances? We had built this up as a sort of must win game and they didn't win. Yeah. And now I think both of us are kind of looking for ways to not necessarily backpedal, but because I do think that there were reasons to be encouraged. Yeah.
00:02:43
Speaker
And I think that if you're being coldly rational about everything, you can point to those and say, you know what? They're starting to turn this around. Raul scored. Yes, Leo made a mistake by taking his shirt off and was probably unlucky to get a second yellow. But he looked great. The timbers kind of caught lightning in a bottle. And that's not wrong.
00:03:10
Speaker
But I don't, me personally, maybe this is a failing on my part, maybe I'm becoming more superstitious in my old age, I don't know. But I can't remove this from the context of the rest of the season. Like I can't be dispassionate about it because it just does, everything does feel so cursed. And, you know, just to play that well and
00:03:35
Speaker
and not come away with a win under those circumstances just feels like predictable because of the way the season has gone. And I, you know, and hopefully I'm wrong and hopefully they have started to figure things out and turn it around and players are getting healthy and, you know, coming back into forum and, um, this will be a blip, you know, uh, uh,
00:03:58
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minor bump in the road on the way to glory, right? But I just, as much as I think you're right that there are encouraging signs in that game, I can't get there yet. I guess I think I actually agree with most of what you said. The one thing I will offer in
00:04:19
Speaker
Maybe not rebuttal, but the thing I'll offer is if what you were looking for was a hint of hope that the sounders still have it,
00:04:32
Speaker
There is a hint that they have it, but I think you actually, I think you use, I think I'm stealing this line from you. You basically said they, this is a team that appears to have the talent to win, but they don't have it right now. And I, I think that's, is that what you said? Did I just totally butcher the line you gave? Cause I was going to use this in something and I'm like, I'm not going to use this. I'm going to give it to Aaron. So why don't you use this line? I'll take the credit for it. I don't remember saying it, but I think it's true. I mean, I, I definitely, it's possible. I said it and I don't know.
00:05:01
Speaker
It seems like something you would say. Yeah. That works for me. And I think that that's true. I just, I don't think that they have whatever that, whatever that is, they ain't got it. Yeah. You can find it, right? Like not all hope is lost, but right now they ain't got it. Yeah. So this is, I guess, I think I, I know where I wanted to go with this. The sounders showed
Coaching Decisions and Player Trust
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me enough
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that I'm willing to believe they might figure it out, but I think they also showed how far they are away from figuring it out. They still have some real flaws in this team, and I don't necessarily think they're talent flaws. The timbers aren't good.
00:05:51
Speaker
You can't convince me otherwise. They aren't a good team. And I think the Sounders are in better shape than them. I think like you can go down the roster and I think almost in every identifiable way you can say the Sounders are better. But that only underscores how frustrating it is that they can't figure out how to beat this team. Yeah. It's been two years.
00:06:11
Speaker
Six games since they've beaten them. I said, I wrote in my column that it's like, it's almost like there was this monkey paw situation where someone was like, I would give anything to absolutely pants the timbers in Providence park. This would be, I give almost anything. Yeah. Okay. This is what you're giving, I guess. Like the timbers haven't been good for two years and the centers can't beat them. It doesn't make any sense. No, it's nuts. And I think.
00:06:41
Speaker
Nothing more than the last two years against the tempers, I think really hammers on the point that for a long time when the Sounders were at their best during their best years, they were frequently more than the sum of their parts. You would look at the roster and you'd say, yes, there's some really good players here, but a lot of teams have really good players. This team overachieves based on the talent on the roster. And now it feels like the opposite. It feels like they are less than the sum of their parts.
00:07:11
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Yeah. And I suppose that you could say maybe that's a coaching failing. Maybe it's a, maybe the team isn't put together as efficiently as it could be. I don't, I don't know what the answer is. And I, and yet I will say that if you are looking for an excuse to
00:07:32
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feel like this is worth paying attention to. I think the sounders kind of gave you that, right? Like if you're, if you're, if your bar for being engaged was just give me reason to believe that something is that better days are ahead. I think the sounders actually achieve that. And, and that's not so much just about the result against the timbers, but it was about putting together back to back to back three consecutive
00:07:57
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quality performances, at least performances in which you could find genuine positives out of them. And that's, you know, those are like, these are babies, these are these like lowest bar that you can clear type things. But at least they're giving us that and you know, you know, two weeks ago, we were saying this team is unwatchable. Right.
Defensive Lapses and Missed Opportunities
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And I, I mean, I think they have at least they've
00:08:25
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improved significantly from unwatchable. Yeah, I mean, the first half against the Timbers was objectively entertaining, I think. It was the most fun. It was the most entertaining half of soccer they've played in probably five months. Yeah, they were they were stringing together good moves. They they had their incisive in the final third.
00:08:45
Speaker
They, you know, they pressed effectively. They were fun to watch. They looked very good. And the tempers do suck. And I don't think you can discount that from the equation. But, I mean, the sounders
00:09:01
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MLS is one of those leagues where you're generally only going to look really good for extended periods against bad teams. And the other games are going to be kind of tense just because the talent gaps are so small. But the Sounders
00:09:17
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one, one of those tough kind of scrappy games against, against Austin and looked like they were going to blow the doors off a bad team, which is really all you can ask. And then second half happens. And really it's like that five, 10 minutes of the second half really that happened. And, um,
00:09:37
Speaker
Yeah, but, but you're right that that is for the first time in a very long time. I had fun watching them. I was having a good time watching the Sanders play soccer and not just because they were beating the timbers because they were playing attractive soccer and doing it effectively. Well, let me ask just because I feel like this is a thing we should address. What did you make of the, of the whole layout to situation? Did you, how, how mad are you at him? I'm not that he deserved to get red carded.
00:10:06
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I don't think he deserved to get red carded. Um, I do think my understanding of that yellow card was that it was a persistent infringement yellow card more than just the foul itself. Yeah. I mean, that's probably, I would think that's, it would almost have to be because it was barely a foul. Right. Yeah. Um, I.
00:10:32
Speaker
I, it shouldn't be this way, but it almost always is. It's exceedingly rare for players to get persistent infringement second yellows, uh, unless they're being really, really reckless. And I don't think that was the case here.
Positive Performances and Future Outlook
00:10:50
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Yeah. But I do think, I mean, it's like that's.
00:10:54
Speaker
The other side of that is that's why you don't get a yellow for taking your shirt off in the 30th minute. But I'm not mad. I mean, he's a young kid who scored a big goal against the Sounders biggest rival in a game where it really started to feel like they were turning the tide. I wish he hadn't taken a shirt off. I think if you're mad about it, you should go outside.
00:11:12
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Yeah. Well, so the other line, and this is a, and I don't want to like create a straw man argument, but I think this was what was articulated. I think I'm fairly articulating what Mark Kastner has said in both print and in private was he really felt like Brian Schmetzer messed up by not removing two at halftime. Where do you fall on that?
00:11:44
Speaker
I think Leo, I mean, I think he played really well. And I think you can make the argument that. In a game that's probably going to continue to be chippy, maybe you don't want to have a younger player who is. I don't think a reckless player, but is occasionally prone to making. You know, I don't want to say dumb fouls, but just fouls you'd rather they didn't make. Right. But I don't think for me, it doesn't rise to the level if you should have come out for the halftime.
00:12:14
Speaker
Right. And that's because he had been really good. I mean, he was a really, really good player in the first half, I thought. And I think that if you want to reward players for good performances, like, I think if he comes off at halftime, yes, he doesn't get sent off and maybe they win that game.
00:12:36
Speaker
But then I think you're having a conversation of, is it really proportionate to the nature of the offense to take a guy who is your best player off at halftime because they got a silly yellow card in a passionate moment? And I don't think it does, personally. I don't think that the...
00:12:58
Speaker
It's one of those things where I can totally see the other side of the argument. For me, I just don't think I agree. And I think especially because of the nature of the second yellow card, right? I wish he had not fouled as much as he did, but I think that's a really soft second yellow, especially in the context of what they're usually given for.
00:13:21
Speaker
Yeah, and I guess the argument here is the soft nature of the second yellow sort of underscores why you take him off at halftime because it just underscores how how you're just leaving it up to the referee's hands. Yeah. I where I maybe this won't come surprise but I tend to agree with you on this though is in a world where you take him off
00:13:50
Speaker
you are maybe increasing your chances of winning based on what we know happened, but you're now having to spend a bunch of time answering questions and dealing with the fallout of, so what you're saying is you don't trust your players to pick up a first half yellow card, which happens all the time, to be able to manage themselves.
00:14:17
Speaker
Or you specifically don't trust Leo Chu to manage himself in that situation. And sure, you can argue we don't need another goal. We need to keep Portland from scoring. But I want.
00:14:34
Speaker
Brian Schmitzer, the next time he's faced with a situation to trust his player, because that's, I think the better strategy is to try to get that third goal than it is to try to hold onto a 2-0 lead, especially at home, especially against a rival. And sure, you can, we can get into like, look, you're playing a team you haven't beaten at home in six years or whatever. You got to just, if you got to grind it out, you got to grind it out.
00:14:58
Speaker
But that's not, I don't, I don't think I, that's how I want this team managed. That's not how I would want to manage. Not the way this came in had gone. Yeah. Yeah. So I don't know. I, I understand the argument.
00:15:12
Speaker
I understand that there were plenty of people that have presented this argument. I tend to think that it's mostly like I can't tell you. I don't think I've ever seen an MLS coach remove a player at halftime in this situation like this one where regardless of how they picked up their first yellow, regardless if they have been warned about potentially getting another yellow.
00:15:56
Speaker
I think that the second yellow was ridiculous. I think that if he had made a very obvious yellow card foul, then that changes the equation. But I think that he didn't. I don't think it was a reasonable second yellow card. I'm trying to find the number of fouls he committed in this game. He only committed three fouls. The two that he had before and then the one that got him sent off.
00:16:04
Speaker
or get with the
00:16:25
Speaker
And that just, to me, that just doesn't... I don't recall him being warned. I mean, a lot of people have pointed out that he was. I did not. And I guess it was before he got the yellow card, the first yellow card.
Playoff Chances and Western Conference Standings
00:16:40
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, I think the only way that yellow card makes sense is that it's a persistent infringement in yellow.
00:16:46
Speaker
I think the maybe the more likely scenario is that it was a yellow because the referee made a very bad call and thought that it was a professional foul when it wasn't. I don't. Reckless. I think you probably would have been calling it reckless. What happened just in case, and maybe this will jog your memory, what happened was
00:17:06
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Nuhu made a interception, pushed it forward, Chu controlled it sort of off of his chest, I believe, or maybe off of his knee, took about two steps, sees Zach McGraw in front of him, and clearly is like pulling back. He maybe steps on his foot. While getting knee in the chest. I remember like watching the replay a bunch of times and not seeing anything that
00:17:34
Speaker
really rose to the level of a yellow card or potentially even a foul, frankly. I think it's just a bad luck situation. And it is a situation that it has to be said that Leo Chu in a large part put himself in because he got a silly yellow card in the first half. Watson's counter wants to thank everyone for their patience, but now the wait is over.
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00:18:27
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And I think we should also probably talk about the Sounders inability to manage the game. I mean, they were still up 2-0 at home against a bad team. They shouldn't have given up two goals. And I guess they managed the first 15 or so minutes okay. They didn't give up a ton of chances.
00:18:51
Speaker
What I, but it is, it's very, it's very, very frustrating that on a throw in they lose the guy who seemingly always scores against you. Yeah. Like, how do you not have it? And I guess it was Obed Vargas's Mark knew who was sort of in the, was definitely in the vicinity as well.
00:19:14
Speaker
And they just both kind of got caught ball watching on a throw, on a throw in. Like you can't give up that goal. That has been a theme of late that is really, really frustrating. They've given up set piece goals on six in six of the last seven games. They'd only given up one set piece goal before that. And, and a lot of these are sort of these back posts, like almost exactly same situation as Austin.
00:19:41
Speaker
where they gave, they just sort of lost a back post run. It was a corner, not a throw-in, but similar principles at play. And, you know, on the flip side is they've suddenly started scoring on a bunch of set pieces, which is great, but it's not a good trade. No, it's at best you're breaking even in a situation like that. And I don't think they are breaking even.
00:20:07
Speaker
Um, no, they're not. Yeah. I it's, and I think then giving up the second goal in such quick succession is just like, if you, we talked about all the reasons that there, there were to take positivity from the game, them having another collapse like that.
00:20:23
Speaker
That's just clearly like they make the same kind of mistake they've been making. That is a mistake that you would have at one point, not that long ago, you know, characterized me and uncharacteristic of this team. Right. And then they make that mistake and then immediately, you know, they just fall apart and allow the next goal. And I mean, at least they didn't end up losing. Right. Right. And I will say, I feel like it's worth pointing out.
00:20:52
Speaker
that over the last 15 minutes of the game, they outshot Portland four to zero. And they the centers weren't exactly they didn't look like they were going to score themselves and they didn't exactly control the game. But they did. They they absolutely avoided completely collapsing, which is like, again, we're talking like lowest bar to clear I get
00:21:16
Speaker
but they did clear that bar. And I will also say, Evander was open on that shot. It's also a 25-yard curler, like his one really good moment in the game. Yeah. See, it was great. I mean, a great goal. It's a great goal. But, you know, again, I mean, it's like.
00:21:39
Speaker
We've said this, I've said this a whole lot this year. I don't know if you agree necessarily, but it's just, there have been all these games where in the context of a season that's going well. Right. You just write it off and you don't. Yeah, I agree. But they, they all stack up. Yeah, exactly. And if you, you know, you can spend that in a maybe semi-positive way and say, but they, you know, they've been in a position where that's, that's what's like in the downfall of the team rather than just getting drugged, you know? Right. And I, and I think.
00:22:09
Speaker
Schmetzer has sort of alluded or had said this is he's more frustrated that the Sounders didn't find a way to get a third goal than they than he is frustrated that they gave up that they gave up the two and I think there's that's fair like for as well as they played in the first half
00:22:30
Speaker
You know, probably the play of the game ends up being David Bingham making a save, point blank save on Raul Rui Diaz that would have made it three zero. Souners had multiple chances to get a third goal in the first half. And they just didn't come out in the third. At no point in the second half did they look like they were adamant about scoring a goal, you know?
00:22:52
Speaker
And I would say if you get a third goal in the first half, the case for taking off Leochu looks, I think, much, much stronger. Sure. I will say that. Yeah, I would agree with you there. I would also agree. I also think that the game has effectively put the bet at that point. And it's just a complete mentality change. If you get that third goal, everything changes. Weirdly, it almost would have been preferable, I suppose,
00:23:20
Speaker
for the timbers to score. If the timbers had scored a first half goal, the Sounders would have come out with a different mentality in the second half, like more committed to putting the game away or something. I don't know. I feel like that's going a little bit too into like game theory or something. But it does sort of just underscore the Sounders inability.
00:23:44
Speaker
good teams find a way to win that game and bad teams find a way not to. And that feels a little bit like the situation. And this is maybe going back on some of the stuff I said earlier in the show about being mostly encouraged or at least entertained. But like I think even the optimist says the Sounders haven't given me any reason to believe that they are
00:24:09
Speaker
that they are likely to go on a run. Now, I think they've given us enough belief that they could, they're capable of going on a run. Or maybe they're worth watching. Or maybe the lower bar that they're worth watching, exactly. But anything beyond that, tough to say. Yeah, definitely.
00:24:31
Speaker
I think that the second year in a row kind of that we're saying this, but I mean, I feel I feel personally like I'll be somewhat relieved when the season is over. I hope it goes on as long as it possibly can. Yeah, but it has felt like a slog.
00:24:44
Speaker
Yeah, a lot of it. Thank God we're done with Portland, you know, but And yet they're sitting here in second place in the Western Conference. Yeah, that's great. It's it's so which I guess should be like I haven't mentioned that yet and it should be highlighted like for all the sounders foibles. Yeah, the West is so wide open.
00:25:05
Speaker
that that's the that's really what gives me like any sense of hope that the West is so wide open that anything can happen. Yeah, you could do reverse 2016 could do a reverse 2016 within the playoffs would have to get the same, you know, right?
00:25:21
Speaker
But yeah, St. Louis is leading the conference six points ahead of the Sounders. And I don't know, I'm not convinced that there are any great shakes. I mean, the Sounders beat them 3-0. Different time, but sure. Sure. Yeah, a long time ago. LAFC is a point behind the Sounders. Granted, I realize that they have games in hand on the Sounders. But even by points per game, the Sounders are fourth in the West. Yeah.
00:25:48
Speaker
I don't know, like I definitely still expect him to make the playoffs. I definitely think like Ben Wright who covers national SEAB does these projections based on points per game at home and points per game on the road and what games they have left. And these projections basically suggest the Sounders are probably going to finish somewhere between second and ninth.
00:26:15
Speaker
Yeah, that's fair. That seems fair. Somewhere between second and ninth, all of which are playoff games. I will say that the most ridiculous, like, you know, you just said the centers are done with the timbers, which is something I put in print today. And then I realized, like, I suppose there's a scenario where the centers finished second and the timbers finished ninth and they face off in the first round
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00:26:40
Speaker
of the playoffs.
00:26:41
Speaker
Yeah, that would be great. I mean, if you are going to break the duck. Yeah, sure. That would be great. That would be great. I should have thought of this before we started recording. You're right that the Sounders obviously are in second place. You're right that they're fourth on points per game. But since May,
00:27:06
Speaker
is really the question, right? Because like, I don't think you can throw out what they did early in the season, but I think you've definitely got to treat it a little differently. And, and I genuinely don't really know where since that hot start, they would rank, would they be down to Colorado? That would be great. Yeah, I can, I can tell you exactly where they'd be. But
00:27:34
Speaker
So since April 9th, which is the day after they beat, uh, they beat St. Louis, the Sounders are sixth. I'm shocked by that. I am just in the West. That is really shocking. I mean, that really does hammer home how bad the Western conferences, but honestly, I mean, MLS in general is kind of bad this year.
00:27:59
Speaker
And maybe that's not the right way to characterize it, right? But there's just like, there's very few standout teams. Yeah. FC Cincinnati is going to probably run away with the shield. They might actually break the points record. That'd be very funny, but they are a flawed team. You know, they, uh, they're only, they're only plus 14 goal difference, which is like not that great. Uh,
00:28:25
Speaker
Yeah, I'm still sitting here shocked that the Sounders are sixth in the West since April. I mean, they would be seventh in the Eastern Conference now. I don't know since April, but they'd be just behind Atlanta, point behind Atlanta. MLS in general is just not great. The West probably is worse, I think. I mean, if you look at the table, the West certainly appears worse.
00:28:54
Speaker
Um, but you, the thing, the reality is that the sounders don't have to be great even in the playoffs to make her run. No, because there's just not like, this is a year that you can win a trophy being mediocre. Hey, uh.
00:29:17
Speaker
Miami was the worst team in the league in the first half of the season, or two-thirds of the season, and they've already won a trophy. That might tell you something. I guess my overall point is that
00:29:32
Speaker
Any other podcasts about any other team, they're probably having very similar conversations because there have been very few teams that have been consistently good this year. Yeah. Well, I mean, you're probably right. And I suppose if that's, if you, if you want their silver lining, maybe, maybe that's it. Uh, I don't think we have much else to, I was going to say we, we might, we will come back and do a second segment. I don't think we have a second segment of content.
00:29:53
Speaker
No, we don't have anything else to I mean, there's nothing to preview. We don't have another game for a couple of weeks. Do you have a mailbag episode coming up? We do. It's a good one. And you got to unfortunately or unfortunately, I suppose you have to be a paid subscriber of sounder heart to get that one. We're putting that one behind the paywall. We're going to that's the way it's going to be for now. Hopefully people appreciate that. Yeah, you know, we do a lot of stuff in front of paywalls.
00:30:21
Speaker
That one isn't, uh, you also, if you also, another thing, if you are like one of these people that only, only is a podcast listener, they don't read the site. Uh, maybe those people exist. We also are the other, the other perk for, uh, for subscribers is I've been doing this like 10 minute mini podcast called sound bites. And I don't, that one won't probably come out for a while. I I'm doing that mostly around games.
00:30:51
Speaker
I'm still kind of trying to dial that in, how it sounds, but that's another, we're trying out stuff. My hope, fingers crossed, I'm going to have a long interview with Hugh Webber, the president of sounders in the next.
00:31:24
Speaker
paid subscriptions this week which blows me away that's great like i'm really excited about this and i'm excited what it hopefully where this is going you know we still need and i don't want to like pump the brakes on on people signing up i really want to encourage everyone to sign up and i hope it's like
00:31:30
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10 days.
00:31:43
Speaker
People just want this content. That's my hope. You're not just doing it because it's like, oh, I want to make sure this is around. No, I actually want the content that you're providing for money.
00:31:57
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Anyway, do you have anything to add there, Aaron? This has been quite an adventure. It has, yeah. I feel like we are starting to figure out value ads for subscribers. I think that we're starting to figure out ways for anyone, whether subscriber or not, to utilize the new platform, do things a little differently, and maybe a little more interesting than had to be done during the heavy
00:32:24
Speaker
CO days when everything was traffic related. There's a lot of great content on the site these days, always has been, but you know, I think. Yeah, I'll plug. I'll plug another piece. I think it's coming out today. Ian Lamberton, who you may know as
00:32:42
Speaker
uh, a handle for Ian on Twitter. He writes for American soccer analysis, among other things. He's has a really fun, interesting piece on Josh Tatencio and sort of the, what statistics are telling us about this midfielder. Yeah.
00:32:59
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There's a ton of great content on there, whether you're a subscriber or not. We'd love to have you, obviously. Our Discord seems to be people figuring that out, having good discussions. Business is picking up over there. There's good stuff in the forums.
00:33:15
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If you aren't a subscriber, but you miss the questions, episodes, that's the only way to get on there now is in the Discord. And there's also some great discussion in the Discord about those questions. So yeah, sign on up. Discord is fun. I think a lot of people are intimidated by it, but it's fun. Well, it's new.
00:33:40
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Yeah, it's like, what, 10 years old? That's no time at all. New for us Gen Xers. Yeah, no, it's true. I've only been on Discord for a couple of years, so it's not like I can talk.
00:33:51
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Yeah. Well, uh, all right. Well, that's, that's probably a good place to call this. Uh, thank you to our sponsors, full pool wines and Watson's counter. Uh, thank you again to everyone who is subscribing to sounder heart and making this possible. It's been a lot of fun bidding. Uh, like I, people say they're humbled by these things and I, I am, uh, genuinely by everything that's been going into this. So thank you to everyone. Uh, we'll be back in,
00:34:20
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around the time that the Sounders, hopefully we'll be talking about a win against, aren't you glad we recorded after the Austin game? I am. Yeah. Oh my God. It's been too rare that we've been on to record episodes after a win, but hopefully we'll have more of those to come. But I'm Jeremiah Shan signing off for Aaron Campo and Lickett. This is No Study Yetis. Remember, you will never get alone.
00:35:41
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We love you. Let's win another one!