Introduction & Sponsorship
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This episode of Nos Arietes is sponsored by Full Pull Wines, a Seattle-based wine retailer and proud sponsor of Nos Arietes since 2011.
Full Pull Wines Overview
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Full Pull was founded in 2009, is based in Seattle, and is owned and operated by longtime sounder supporters. They offer the best boutique wines of the world to members of their mailing list, with special focus on their home, the Pacific Northwest.
Sounders Player Hype
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Hey, this is Christian Roldan. And Jordan Morris from the Seattle Sounders Football Club. And you're listening to... There's no study at this. Here we go. Come on! Hey, Ocean! Let's go! What a save by Fry! The Seattle Sounders have done it! MLS co-pointers! Here comes Ray D'Ace from the middle to crowd it! The vehicle! And now they truly can't stop the celebrations.
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Seattle Sounders, the greatest MLS team in history. This is a tiny f***ing doll.
MLS Season Week 9 Q&A
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Is that why you young people call twerking?
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Welcome back to another edition of Nos Adiates for the week of the question. This is the question and answer session for week nine of the MLS season. I am Jeremiah Shan. Joining me as always is Aaron Campo and our producer Lickett. So we have a bunch of questions. Why don't we just jump right into those?
Sounders Rivalry Intensity
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I think that's a great idea. First one is from Tom Glans. It's hard to not feel like the intensity of the rivalry is lost on some portion of current sounders, especially with Brian's comments along those lines. Is that mainly a factor of our age slash maturity in MLS, the rivalry being overplayed or do you think it's something else?
00:02:22
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You know, that it's a good question and we never really, and I don't necessarily expect to get to the bottom of who exactly Brian was referring to. You know, he, he sort of made it sound like he didn't say players. He just said there were people in the locker room. I think he may even said staff, uh, who were sort of like,
00:02:42
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smiling and laughing after the game. I would be a little surprised if there were any players smiling and laughing after any loss. In my experience, the locker room is not a fun place to be after any loss, let alone a loss of the timbers, especially a loss where you just got totally pantsed in the last 20 minutes. So I don't know. I don't know that it's lost. I don't think it's lost on the
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on the players, but there is some emotional disconnect. I think part of it is that the sounders, I feel like collectively have sort of felt like beating the timbres is
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a path towards bigger achievements and not an achievement unto itself. And it does feel like the timbers are able to conjure up a level of intensity for these rivalry games that the Sounders are just having a trouble meeting. I don't know that there's a really logical explanation for that though.
Timbers' Motivations
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Yeah, I mean, I do think that
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Last year, the Timbers definitely felt like they had something to prove. I think that the motivation of wanting to ruin your biggest rival's banner raising is, you know, can definitely be a motivating factor. This season, I mean, I think there's a good chance Gio saw Varese's job was on the line. I think that the Timbers are definitely at a point where it's like, hey, we've got to start winning games if we're going to have any hope of making the playoffs. What better time to start than now?
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But if anything, I don't. I'm not in the locker room and I'm not in training, so I can't say for sure, but just.
Rivalry Impact on Sounders
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from my position as an observer, if anything, it feels like the Sounders are getting overwhelmed at times like they think the gravity of Oh, no, here it goes again is is creeping in and that doubt is creeping in in a way that it just seemingly doesn't against other teams. Right. And, you know, and I don't know. I don't know. I mean, it's not like the guys on this team haven't played in big games.
00:04:56
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And having played in big games against the Timbers, I mean, most of the guys on this team beat the Timbers at whatever they're calling that stadium now, six to two, right? Like 18 months ago, right? Almost to a man, almost all these players that were in there, like Obed Vargas, Jackson Reagan, I would imagine everyone else played in that game.
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Yeah, it's it's it's baffling. And it's I think that there's I have a tendency to when there are patterns in what is ultimately a pretty small sample like this. My assumption is always like this is just randomness. Right. And I think a lot of the time it is. But you I've watched these four games. Right. Nothing. This is a thing that's that's happening. Like there there is a real effect going on. It's pretty clear.
00:05:45
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And, and I don't, I don't know what it is, but they got to figure it out, man, because it's, I think the point you make about the sounders seeing this game as, as a path to bigger and better things is true. And I think that that's probably the reasonable way to look at it. But an MLS season is not.
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It's 34 games. It's however, eight months, nine months, however long it is. It's a whole hell of a long time.
Continuous Losses Discussion
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Yeah. Obviously the biggest thing is, is winning games, winning trophies, all that, but beating the timbers matters a lot. And.
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to not to fail to do it four times in a row, just getting so badly outplayed like that matters. And it should be said, they haven't beaten the timbers at home since 2000, like in the regular season since 2017. Yeah, that's not good. That's a long time ago. That's really not good. Yeah, it's yeah, it's not good. So kind of on the same note is from interpersonal.
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Will this fourth consecutive loss finally be enough for the Sounders to bring angry rivalry energy to the June rematch? It feels very off that a talented Sounders side has lost their edge against Portland. I hope so, man, because it's it. It kind of feels like if they are not able to write the ship against Portland, that this is going to become a thing like for a while and.
Key Missing Players
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It can't not creep over into the rest of the season to some degree, right? Like when you get pantsed like that in such an embarrassing fashion. And if it happens again, like if it happens, they come up here at home with the motivating factor of everything else that's gone on. Last year, I think it's easy to say, well, yeah, we lost both games, but we lost a lot of games last year. And all because all the other stuff was going on. This year, the Sounders looked like the best team in the league.
00:07:45
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And they get destroyed. And the Timbers were better last year than they are this year. Not a lot better, but a little better. I really hope so. I want them to win that game by several goals, I think. And more that I always want them to win by several goals. But it is important to me that they win that game by several goals. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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Alright, next one is from at Garadimini, where the defensive failure is due to lacking Rusnak and Roldan, poor performances by the CVs, Cascadia, Voodoo, or a mix of all the above.
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I mean, it makes it only above surely is the correct answer. I think Rusnak and Roldon are part of the answer, but it's a little too convenient, I think, to put too much stock in that. I do tend to think that the center back play is was probably the most glaring issue. Yeah.
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But that's not the most, I didn't have a good, fun answer there. Right. Yeah, it does suck that the answer to this is always. It's always, always, always all of the above. Yeah. All right. This is from Bill Jones trumpet. Seems like no matter who else plays, we always struggle without Christian. I've attributed last year's issues to his absence and playing while injured. Is he the glue that holds our squad together? I think, yeah, in a lot of ways. I mean, I do think that
00:09:22
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He's a player that the sounders... It's weird to say that one player is more than the sum of their parts, but he's more important to the sounders than I think.
00:09:32
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his just profile as a player would maybe lead you to believe. I do think in this game that missing both him and Rusnak was sort of like the opposite of a force multiplier, a force divider, I guess. That just it had a huge ripple effect. And I think a lot of it came down to when things started spiraling, the sounders didn't have a way of playing to fall back
Jersey Colors Debate
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Like they'd been able to kind of dominate the game through their talent, but when they were struggling and they weren't able to dominate anymore, they didn't have that identity to fall back on. And I think that Christian is a huge part of that. And I think that his sort of being less than his best down the stretch last season was definitely a huge part of their struggles. Yeah. I totally think that's a reasonable observation. Yeah. I mean, if the question is he, the Sounders most, uh,
00:10:28
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The player whose hardest to replace in the lineup, I think the answer is yes. Yeah, absolutely. In part because he can do so many different things. Yeah, and he can bring his energy and his skill set to completely different parts of the pitch, which is not, you know, it's rare to find. Next one is from AW Stiggs. I feel like we kind of answered the first part of this question, but if there's anything we want to elaborate on, we can do that. Second part.
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This is a new territory. So part one, who did we miss more? Albert Christian or someone else? Part two, any chance we can have green on green for the next matchup? So, yeah, I think we did answer the first one. Christian, I'm going to say is the answer there. So I did some legwork on finding out about the the kit matchup, as you probably know, it was red versus rose or pink. I guess we could call that.
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uh and my understanding is all three games will be played in red versus pink and that is a decision by the league i i guess it is deemed the least
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are the most contrasting of the various kit matchups. I would tend to think that the obvious answer would be to let one of those games be green versus pink. But I don't know. This might be like I've heard that it might be a political somewhat political decision. Like they don't want to let the Sounders wear green because I can imagine that there's a valid argument to be made that
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the timber's greens are too dark to play against the sounder's red. I suppose there's an argument to be made about that, but there's no reason that the sounder's green shouldn't be able to pair against the timber's pink, but that
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is apparently not what the league wants to do.
Ariaga's Role Speculation
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I don't know. I can't tell you why that is, but it's a league decision and this is the way it's going to be at least for now. I can kind of see the perspective of if we can't wear our home at home, why should they be able to wear their home at home? Right. I suppose that's probably the case. I think that a big part of the issue here is that
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the sounder's primary jersey is their light jersey and it's not especially light like it's it's I have some issues with the kit situation in MLS. I don't I think everybody needs to have a like actual light colored jersey so that we're not in situations like this or yeah, yeah, but yeah, so and I will say that of all the
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There's a visceral reason you don't want to see the sounders and timbers play red versus pink. And it's just that it doesn't feel right. Because it's not either team's main color, it's not either team's main palette even. They're both sort of off palette colors.
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But it is a legitimate contrast. I will say that there was no confusion. Like the two jerseys are at a very quick glance, very obviously different teams. Like there's not really a.
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They do contrast well, I have to admit. They do, they do. Yeah, I mean, it's ultimately not a big deal. I'm looking at a color wheel now and yes, the red and green are on actual upset sides of the color wheel. So anyway, yeah, it's ultimately it doesn't matter, but it still pisses me off.
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And it was I was pissed off about it like before the game even started. I always do. But I do think the solution is, hey, everybody has to have a white or white, gray kit or like very light blue or whatever, even if you only wear it in situations like this, but they're going to do that.
00:14:41
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So this is from Death Road, Dear Durham. What's going on with Ariaga? I'm completely content with the starting pairing we have, but seems really weird to have a player of his caliber just sitting on the bench rather than selling him.
00:14:54
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Well, Jeremiah, you would definitely know better than I would about whether or not there are any, you know, moves in the offing. But I mean, we've kind of talked about this in the past and that I think the Sounders probably would be open to moving him if somebody wanted him and they were offering something to the Sounders.
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found enticing. But the Sounders also don't have a great third center back option. And we're not that far into the season. Reagan and Yamer have looked great. We haven't had any injury issues at that position as of yet. And that's not going to be the case all year. Somebody's going to get banged up. Maybe Jackson Reagan gets a US national team call up at some point.
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Who knows, right? So I think the Sounders are definitely not going to want to part with Ariaga unless they feel like they can replace him. And that's just kind of tough to do. So they're going to have to get a really good offer before they're willing to do that. And he will get some playing time at some point. I think it just hasn't worked out that way quite yet.
00:15:59
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Yeah. I don't really have a whole lot to offer to add to that, but you're right. I think the centers are very much in make us an offer mode, but man, after you see a trade like what just happened in MLS where Montreal sent Kamal Miller and $1.3 million in
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to Miami for Bryce Duke and Ariel Lassiter, which is one of the most
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impossible to understand, the hardest to understand trades in MLS history. I can't imagine that helps the trade market for Ariaga to think that like you would, I don't know. Sometimes the best moves are the ones you don't make and keeping Ariaga right now might be a smart one. Yep. The next one is from Better Than.
Team Strategy & Formation
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What's the next time you want to see Jordan as a mostly right wing?
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Well, I mean, like, I think we mentioned that we might see it this week and I wouldn't be against it, especially if it means, you know, essentially if your choice is between starting Vargas and.
00:17:16
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Um, and chew, I guess the other option I didn't, I didn't mention was that you could start Rui Diaz as the, as the forward Morris on the left and Russ neck on the right. That was the, that was the third option that I, which I suppose you could do. And maybe we'll, that is one possibility here. Um, I, I tend to think that choose is probably going to get another start though.
00:17:43
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Yeah, I think if Christian was healthy, I would expect him to be starting and choose place. But if he's if he's not, then right. And I just I think Chu has earned the benefit of the doubt for the starting lineup. I thought he was going to get he's been good in every appearance he's he's right here. I think he's been the most consistently good sounders player him and him and Jordan, obviously. So right. Yeah, I think so. And like Jordan,
00:18:09
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The right wing is not my favorite position for him. I think he's better cutting in or better in the middle, but he's not bad there and he can still be pretty effective there. He's good enough with the outside of his right that he can cut in from the right and still cause problems. It's not a long-term solution I don't think that anybody would be thrilled with, but for now I think it works okay.
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So this is from Elaine in Ballard.
Playoff vs Rivalry Success
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If we make the playoffs, I'm going to assume making the playoffs is not a base standard here. But anyway, if we make the playoffs, win the supporters shield or make MLS cup finals, do you agree that it doesn't matter if we ever win against Portland or not, unless it's actually in the playoffs? So I think what she's saying, and I'm going to be, I'm going to interpret this as a way that
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I feel like is the better way of asking the question is that if you have to choose, if you are in a world where the Sounders are, you know, winning silverware or competing for silverware at the very least in finals and whatnot, would you be okay with continuing to like not beat the timbers in the regular season?
00:19:26
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I mean, if... This is like a monkey paw type of question. Obviously, we want both. Cosmic choice, I guess. But it's not. The sounders should beat the timbers. There was a lot of discussion about this after the game. Steve Zakuwani had a fair number of posts about the scene in one game. And yes, it's frustrating.
00:19:54
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Ultimately in the grand scheme of things, it's still just one game, but it's it's not right. It's not like timbers games are not like the other games. This like it sucks to lose to them. These games are important and and so in the reality where we don't have that false choice, it is OK to be pissed off about losing those timbers.
00:20:18
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especially four times in a row, especially by an aggregate 11 to two. And these games, this isn't happening in isolation. And I understand why that frustration is there and then why it's
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why people are so upset about it. And so yeah, I mean, if you have that choice of like, we can guarantee you that the sounders are going to be competitive competing for trophies every year. And in exchange, you never beat the timbers. Or the other choices, you beat the timbers every time, but you're never competitive. I mean, obviously, you want the chance at silverware if that's the more important thing.
00:20:56
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It's not like those are the only choices that we have. The Sounders can win silverware and beat the Timbers. They've done it several times. It has happened. I will say this, I would trade
00:21:12
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regular season failures against the timbers for postseason victories against the timbers. Like if I have to. Yeah, like if I had to choose one place. So if that has to happen, I guess. But the centers play the timbers twice more this year. They better not lose those two games. Yeah, I'm going to be pretty pissed off about it if they do. Yeah, we're entertaining.
Sounders Players' Pets
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This possibility is absurd. Right. Yeah, it's it wasn't that long ago that the joke was, well, you know, it's a pretty even rivalry, but the but the away team always wins. And right.
00:21:43
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And now it's just the timbers always win and that's not, that's not where I don't like that. No, it's not good. Uh, this one's from Kenny's loft two, five, three. What type of pets does some sounders players have? I like to picture new who with an elaborate aquarium. You know, this might be a good question for us to do some digging on, but it is best. I can tell the only players that are open about their pet ownership are the dog owners. Yeah. Uh, I don't even know if we have any cat or reptile or fish owners on the team.
00:22:12
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Cat owners as pro athletes, men's pro athletes especially, I think, do not seem to be super common in my experience.
00:22:24
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And I don't, you know, maybe it's because there are fewer soy boys like me or whatever, but I... Is that your cat's soy boy pet? I mean, that's what some people would say. Oh, I don't feel that way. But you know, I yeah, I mean, I think outspoken, there are baseball players that are like outspoken cat owners, but baseball players are, you know, they tend to be.
00:22:50
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They can be a little more eccentric or less typical jocks, I guess. But I might just have to start routinely asking players, do you have a pet? Yeah. Find out if there are any cat owners, because if there are, I'd like to talk to them. Yeah. All right. This is a new a new thing I'm going to be looking into.
Handling Success & Rivalries
00:23:08
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Yeah. If there are cat owners, we could do special episodes of the podcast where I talk to the players about their cats. OK. So.
00:23:18
Speaker
Is this oh, I'll ask it. STL Cinderace is this is a St. Louis fan here. Any tips for handling early success without becoming assholes about it? Is there anything you did concerning your early success that you wish you hadn't or vice versa? I want so I have an answer for this, but I think your answer is perfect. So I want you to get it first. OK, so I guess the answer is that it presupposes
00:23:47
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that we, like if I were to read this question more, if I'm to read between the lines, they seem to be suggesting that Sounders fans might be assholes about their success and that we might regret
00:24:06
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uh, feeding into that perception. And personally, I, I guess I agree with the premise in a sense, like, but I also am totally fine with that. Uh, it was a lot of fun. Like one of the, I don't know how many people that listened to this podcast, remember one of the first promos that we ever did was we were talking about riding around on yachts and, uh,
00:24:36
Speaker
and like really leaning into the whole, the whole memeification of our fan base. And if people want to call us insufferable, that's fine. You know, like enjoy the, like, I think worrying about like being perceived as the fan base, everyone likes is overrated. Yeah. Yeah. Like I think everyone probably likes whitecaps fans. Yeah. That's, that's the thing. Is that,
00:25:06
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There is no way to be. If if you're a Sounders fan and you have the whole like perspective of like, oh, you know, hey, man, like I'm a humble I'm humble about our success and like I respect all that's so annoying. That is such like that's the worst guy in the world to be. I would rather
00:25:31
Speaker
Like, like an Astros fan. Be. Just the way they are, right? Like, just like kind of insufferable. Like, yeah, we beat you all the time. We win all the time. We have the best run team in the league, whatever. Yeah, we cheat. So what? So does everybody else? Guess what? We did it successfully and got a World Series out of it. Then be like, Oh, you know, like I have a lot of respect for the Mariners and like you guys will get there. So don't patronize.
00:26:00
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And yeah, I will say you can be, if you want to be like, I'll add this, if you're a St. Louis fan and you don't want, and you just don't want to get too far out over your skis, that's a different thing, right? Absolutely. That's like, I don't want to become too much of an asshole in year one because
00:26:21
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As much as it's fun to be leading the supporter shield after week eight, the reality is that I don't maybe they don't know this, but there actually isn't a trophy for being a supporter shield lead at week eight. You're going to have to maintain this for another 20 odd 26 weeks, 26 weeks. That's a long time. It is. But if you go into Cincinnati and you beat them 5-1, talk to your shit. Right.
00:26:49
Speaker
Enjoy it. None of this ultimately is important. None of it matters. It's not life or death. It's a distraction. It's entertainment. It's important to me in the sense that I love the sounders. I love the sport. Speak your truth.
00:27:05
Speaker
But it's not important. It doesn't matter. Right. And I think the key. The only actual advice that I would offer is that you can be an asshole without being a dick. Right. Yeah, sure. Don't be a dick. It's fine. Enjoy yourself. Talk your shit. Right. But don't be like don't go out of your way to find people to talk shit to. Right. Like if people are being cruel,
00:27:31
Speaker
You should also be cool. Enjoy your team's success. There's no reason that you can't have... Yeah, right. Exactly. Don't get dick. I would say being an asshole is funny sometimes. Being a dick is never funny. Right. And I think an important thing to remember about the sounders and where
00:27:56
Speaker
The Sounders came along. The Seahawks had been bad for a while. They had gone to the Super Bowl in 2007, but it didn't turn out great. And they had been sort of middling for a few years before that, and then just dog shit for a long time before that. The Mariners were a total train wreck. The Sonics had just left.
00:28:20
Speaker
Like the Seattle sporting landscape was not in a good place and the Sounders came in and they won trophies right away and they, you know, they, they were doing things in American soccer that nobody else had ever done. And like, yeah, they were like Sounders fans were annoying as hell and still continue to be annoying as hell.
00:28:39
Speaker
But that's because their team won a lot and they do cool things and they're successful and they engage their fan base. And it's fun to be a Sounders fan. And when you were having fun as a sports fan and other people are not, their teams are struggling. Their ownership doesn't care about putting any good product on the team.
00:28:58
Speaker
Fans of those teams are going to find you annoying. There's nothing you can do about it. So just have fun with it. Right. Like there's no team that enjoys a lot of success where other fan bases are just sort of like, I am so happy for Columbus crew fans for being able to finally get to when the Whitecaps, you know, part of the reason everyone likes Whitecaps fans is because the Whitecaps feel very unthreatening. Yeah. You know,
00:29:29
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And so if they start winning, it's not going to, no one's going to be rooting for them anymore. Think about the Red Sox, right? For years, the first 20 years of my life, everybody felt so bad for the Red Sox. Everybody was happy for them. Yeah.
00:29:48
Speaker
And now they're easily one of the most despised fan bases in the world. But if you're a younger person now who doesn't remember when the curse of Buckner was still a thing, and if you don't remember those days, people... Red Sox. Everyone aside from Yankees fans was rooting for the Red Sox. They love the Red Sox. They made a movie about it, about how much everybody loved the Red Sox.
00:30:14
Speaker
with Jimmy Fallon and what's her name? And I know that it was about Arsenal, but that's not the point. Was it Arsenal or Liverpool? It was Arsenal. Oh, okay. I guess I should read more soccer books.
00:30:30
Speaker
But yeah, it does not take long for the lovable loser to have some success and become just as insufferable as everybody else. The Patriots too, man. Also, can I just add a slight note? I have absolutely zero faith that St. Louis fans are going to be somehow the fan base that bucks this.
00:30:52
Speaker
Cardinals fans, I don't know, maybe St. Louis fans don't realize this, but I think Cardinals fans might be the most despised fan base in the entirety of Major League Baseball. They are definitely the most made fun of. Yeah, like as much as the Yankees suck and the Red Sox suck. I think like Cardinals fans are right there in terms of like
00:31:13
Speaker
I mean, it's changed, but back in my day. Well, I have not seen a lot of the from St. Louis supporters of soccer in St. Louis. I have not seen a lot of the more questionable things that maybe people don't like about about Cardinals fans as much. But you are correct that. And and I think that the common thread in why people find Cardinals fans so irritating is that they try to do that like hottie above it all high road shit.
00:31:40
Speaker
And when they're having success, it's just so annoying. So annoying. Yeah. So I guess the moral of the story is talk your shit. Talk your shit. And hope that your players back it up for you because that's what this is all about. It should be fun. And if it comes to the point where they don't. Doesn't matter.
00:32:02
Speaker
Right. And that doesn't mean you got to show up to the other team's tailgate and be an asshole. But like, you know, like there's a I think we're talking about online banter here and enjoying it. But I don't know. Maybe I misread this and they're like, actually, we think sounders fans are like this would be very funny. I hope that the that this person is listening to the show. And I hope they write in and say like, actually, you totally misinterpreted my question. I think sounders fans are
00:32:30
Speaker
like what we should all aspire to be. I don't think the advice changes. Well, except for it would, it doesn't change, but I would just feel funnier about it because it's like, they're like, no, you guys are actually, you guys do it right. Right. I'd be like, awesome. Yeah. Maybe they're looking. And so maybe that's it. Maybe what he meant is like, how do you not be dicks? Right. And maybe he listened to the interview I did with, uh, the guy from flyover footy and he was like,
00:32:59
Speaker
That was such a good interview. I wish all the opposing teams would have such thoughtful interviews with their opposition.
00:33:08
Speaker
I don't know. I doubt it. But anyway, I hope we answered your question. But yeah, well, that's all we got. That's all we got today. So that was week nine's question and answer session. Thank you to our sponsors, Fullpool Wines and Watson's Counter. And of course, our
00:33:32
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00:33:52
Speaker
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Conclusion & Thanks
00:34:01
Speaker
Yeah, we do. We do. It makes this all much more sustainable. And, you know,
00:34:09
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but it makes us feel good about ourselves. Like we're not just, uh, doing this for, for poops and giggles or whatever. Anyway, I got, I got a little outside my plan there. Uh, that said, I'm Jeremiah Chan signing off for Aaron Campo and Likit. This is Nos Arietes and we will catch you next time.
00:35:06
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We love you. Let's win another one!