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Content for the Content God!
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Slop for the slop throne! Biggs dredges up a topic for the night to cram in an episode for you wonderful people!
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Introduction and Podcast Background
00:00:38
Biggs
ah Hello and welcome back to another episode of the unknown. into the unknown. The unknown podcast.
00:00:47
Truthiness
Unknown podcast. Come on, man.
00:00:49
Biggs
We're very unknown.
00:00:51
Truthiness
We may be a little tired tonight.
00:00:54
Biggs
So this one, uh, this one, we might not be, uh, doing what we wanted to be doing, which was playing our, uh, third mission.
00:01:06
Truthiness
Yes.
00:01:06
Biggs
of the intro missions, but...
00:01:08
Truthiness
Yes, yes. Sorry about that. we we We had big plans to do live and then here we are an hour past when we were supposed to start.
Hosts' Personal Updates and Schedule Changes
00:01:19
Truthiness
I've got the kids doing soccer five freaking days a week and you're coming off of a lot of shifts, right?
00:01:28
Biggs
Yeah, and I'm only going to be night shift this week.
00:01:29
Truthiness
Yeah.
00:01:33
Biggs
So three in a row.
00:01:34
Truthiness
Oh, that transition's brutal.
00:01:37
Biggs
And then I transition back into day shift with only 24 hours off.
00:01:37
Truthiness
So, yeah. um Yeah. Yeah. And unfortunately, we're not going to be able to record next week. So we figured it would just be better to bigs to throw together a quick outline.
00:01:48
Biggs
Slop you out some content.
00:01:50
Truthiness
Content slop.
00:01:51
Biggs
Some content from the content slop trough.
00:01:52
Truthiness
Content. Content for the content god.
00:01:57
Biggs
All right.
00:01:57
Truthiness
What's the fuck?
00:01:58
Biggs
So, it as you probably know, I'm your emergency medical hologram Biggs, and I have with me today, as always, Captain Truthiness.
00:02:10
Truthiness
Hola. All right, so what are we talking about today?
00:02:12
Biggs
Anyway, our slop our content slop from the content trough is going to be um planning out the complication.
Planning and Game Complications Discussion
00:02:25
Biggs
Now, I know what you're saying. Biggs, truthiness, you already spent multiple episodes on list building, on deep dives into the ah overtures and complications and situations. and why why are we talking about this again?
00:02:49
Truthiness
Because we've played more games and we know stuff.
00:02:51
Biggs
because Because we've played more games, because we have more experience, Because maybe you have played more games and have more experience, and we're going to do more of a, well, let's be honest, it's not going to be advanced, but it's going to be more of an intermediate look out at how things are instead of just the evergreen overview.
00:03:15
Truthiness
Yeah, so I think looking through your outline here real quick, your general idea is how to bring everything together. Like, you know your heroatures, you know your complications, you know the flow of the game.
00:03:27
Truthiness
There's some additional stuff I think Biggs has identified that we're going talk about that's just how you bring all of that together, how you set yourself up for the transition, because I think that's...
00:03:39
Biggs
Setting yourself up for success, especially in setting yourself up for success once the complication rolls around.
00:03:48
Truthiness
Yeah, because I think that the complication flip is my favorite part of this game. And like getting either your complication, knowing what's coming and setting yourself up for it can be a really like a lot of these complications score way more points than the overtures.
00:04:04
Truthiness
um So.
00:04:04
Biggs
But some of them don't.
00:04:06
Truthiness
But some of them don't.
00:04:08
Biggs
Like, for example, just to pull one out of nowhere, Race for Knowledge. that one That one, there are not a lot of points on the table.
00:04:19
Truthiness
Whereas what's the the one that currently has the scoring record? Because it doesn't put a... What is that one?
00:04:26
Biggs
cloak and Cloak and Dagger can get...
00:04:27
Truthiness
Yeah, because it doesn't put any flags down, so everybody and their mother just kind of sits over, object to point and barbs the ever-level yell out of
00:04:28
Biggs
Mm-hmm.
00:04:36
Biggs
I mean, heck, and ah inscrutable entity can be farmed for an ungodly number of points, too. There's there's so many ways to score too many points in some of these.
Strategies for Game Success
00:04:52
Truthiness
Okay, so...
00:04:52
Biggs
But...
00:04:54
Truthiness
yeah yeah Now that I've distracted us wonderfully...
00:04:56
Biggs
Mm-hmm. So that's what we're going to be talking about, but let's, let's kind of pull back from that key point in the game and talk about how you bring it all together, how you, how you bring this plan to fruition.
00:05:13
Biggs
And it all comes down to, again, building that task force at the beginning of the game. Now, If you're playing a pickup game, if you're... yeah Or even if you're playing the learn-to-play scenarios, the the um the missions for the...
00:05:39
Biggs
ah What's the word I'm looking for? Truthiness. Truthiness. Truthiness.
00:05:44
Truthiness
I don't know. but you thinking about a Beazoid over here?
00:05:49
Biggs
I'm thinking of the the the campaign. That's what I'm thinking of. The campaign. if you're If you're playing the missions for the campaign, you get to build your task force after you know what your overture and your situation are.
00:06:07
Biggs
And if you're if you're playing a pickup game, you also know what your complication is going to be.
00:06:18
Biggs
So you have, at that point, you know, based on the overture, based on the situation, based on your directives,
00:06:18
Truthiness
Yeah.
00:06:32
Biggs
what your ways to score in those first three rounds are going to be. um And that will help you.
00:06:43
Biggs
First off, that helps you with list building so that you can bring officers that will help you carry out the plan to score during those first three rounds.
00:06:56
Truthiness
Mm-mm.
00:06:56
Biggs
You can focus on taking, if you're the Federation, taking the right ships or flexing in officers or upgrades that help you facilitate that plan.
00:07:10
Biggs
but you do still have to be looking ahead those complications.
00:07:17
Truthiness
I would almost say like a lot of that, what device you're giving here is very Federation-focused in general. like The Federation is the more flexible faction, has officers that can accomplish all those missions. There's just some missions that I don't care what officer you bring for the Dominion, you're not going to be good at.
00:07:34
Truthiness
And I feel like their...
00:07:34
Biggs
Mm-hmm.
00:07:38
Truthiness
What is it? The combat ah directive? I feel like that very much is something they... are good at keeping in their back pocket. Like, I i found more in a couple missions where I just um just didn't even bother.
00:07:51
Biggs
me
00:07:52
Truthiness
Like, I i dare...
00:07:53
Biggs
I mean, that can be that can be part of it. That can be your path to scoring points, but you've got to you've got to go into the game having an idea of where are my points coming from.
00:07:58
Truthiness
Your officer selection? Yeah.
00:08:07
Truthiness
Yeah.
00:08:08
Biggs
um for the For the Dominion, it may be a good idea to go into that complication keeping your score close or even already having that two points, being two points behind so that you can get hostile as quickly as possible to get you a way
Faction-Specific Strategies: Federation and Dominion
00:08:33
Biggs
to score those points.
00:08:33
Truthiness
yeah now you can if you and if you keep your ships together honestly you can one turn pretty much any ship the federation is going to bring like i don't know if you're going to bring down a galaxy that fast but ah a a constellation no no but a constellation you can you can pick off a constellation with relativities um but like if like i feel like
00:08:45
Biggs
A defiant, even a defiant's not going to hold up too well against concentrated fire.
00:08:58
Truthiness
That's my my play with Dominion most times is i feel like I am concentrating less and less on overshare objectives, um kind of keeping my focus on complications. So if a scenario has objectives that are just just not going to work for me, like I'm not testing a difficulty three science as Dominion. It's just I'm not going to keep up.
00:09:20
Truthiness
It's just not going to happen. um I like to keep everything together. um take advantage of the Federation tendency to like to spread because man, the Federation loves putting random crap on the board all over the place.
00:09:34
Biggs
Oh my goodness. ah If you go on to the official um the official Star Trek Into the Unknown Discord and take a look at in the 2025 World Cup um thread, they' there is the most Federation of Federation games.
00:09:34
Truthiness
um
00:09:49
Truthiness
How much crap did you two have on the board?
00:09:56
Biggs
we had um He had all six of his probes out. I had three probes and a shuttle.
00:10:03
Truthiness
Oh dear lord, yeah. Oh good god.
00:10:07
Biggs
it was
00:10:07
Truthiness
And there's three constellation class ships on this in this picture.
00:10:11
Biggs
There are three Constellation-class ships on the board. um One Defiant, because I was worried I might have to go hostile at one point. And not a single person fired in anger.
00:10:23
Truthiness
Oh this picture is this picture's ridiculous. Oh you dirty hippies.
00:10:26
Biggs
and not a single person and not a single person fired in anger
00:10:31
Truthiness
Oh god. be Be more Star Trek right now. Yeah, I just feel like i feel like that's my play that's more successful as Dominion.
00:10:39
Biggs
Mm-hmm.
00:10:40
Truthiness
like Even in a mirror match, um' I like playing the cagey, I'm going to build my influence if I've got the complication I want, and we're going to play my game when it flips. And in the meantime...
00:10:54
Truthiness
you want to score some points, I'm going to make you pay for it. ah So like, I'm, I'm just often as soon as like, even as early as turn one, I'm just taking my time, you know, just changing alert dials or something like that, doing kind of the minimums and just waiting to see where other ships go.
00:11:12
Truthiness
And then I'm moving all of my ships in one place.
00:11:14
Biggs
And I...
00:11:18
Truthiness
I'm going to keep them all together.
00:11:18
Biggs
And I will say... i will say that even as Federation, that isn't a terrible idea. Your galaxy shouldn't necessarily be warping in on turn one.
00:11:25
Truthiness
Battle Ball it?
00:11:30
Biggs
It should be...
00:11:30
Truthiness
No.
00:11:32
Biggs
It should be addressing the fleet. You should be setting yourself up for a splashy turn two. or maybe even just a splashy turn three.
00:11:42
Truthiness
Yeah. Well, and that's actually what I like to set up is like, I'm, i am, I will happily just ignore objectives on turn one and two and just kind of, just kind of see if I can stall things out until the other player passes and then try and try and jump something.
Advanced Tactics and Complications
00:12:02
Truthiness
Cause you can, man, you can, you can, if you can knock something out, before the overture turn or before the complication flips, man, that's that's a huge advantage.
00:12:14
Biggs
Now you're playing now you're playing with house money.
00:12:15
Truthiness
um like Even even if well, and even if the combat objective flips back to peaceful, like you're now a ship and probably some officers down on the other side the table and it's yeah and hopefully you've spent your time worrying about influence and not objectives you can't pass.
00:12:33
Truthiness
Um, and you it's to your advantage. Hopefully sometimes the complication deck, you just don't want to, it just gives you the the bottom of the barrel and you're just like, okay, you know what?
00:12:46
Truthiness
I'm not even bothering. Nope. No influence.
00:12:48
Biggs
Well, I actually want to talk about that because there are some situations um where you may actually want to play to get your opponent's objective.
00:12:48
Truthiness
I don't care.
00:12:59
Truthiness
Yeah, especially since we're in such limited decks. It's not terribly hard to figure out what your opponent might have. Like, you... Like...
00:13:09
Biggs
I crunched the numbers.
00:13:11
Truthiness
Ooh-hoo-hoo. Ho-ho-ho-ho.
00:13:12
Biggs
I crunched the numbers. um the the one where you're The two that you're least likely to know what your opponent has is Battle Mystery and Politics Threat, where there are six complications between them.
00:13:24
Truthiness
Okay. Okay.
00:13:28
Truthiness
Okay. Yeah. So there'll be two that neither of you even have a choice at.
00:13:31
Biggs
Mm-hmm. Yeah, two two that no one even bothered to drew ah to draw. But on the other hand, if you ever decide that you want to try playing a three-player game and you know make up rules for that, ah those would be the ones that you'd have to do.
00:13:43
Truthiness
Hmm.
00:13:49
Truthiness
yeah
00:13:49
Biggs
Because it'd give everyone an option to have a complication. Okay. Battle Intrigue, Politics Mystery, and Study Intrigue have five potential options.
00:14:04
Biggs
So once you have your the two that you get to choose from, you can have a pretty good idea what the remaining three are and kind of narrow down based on what your opponent is doing.
00:14:20
Biggs
You might be able to guess what their complication might be. But the ones that you will definitely be able to figure out if you have an idea of what the complications are is your battle threat.
00:14:37
Biggs
your politics intrigue, your study threat, and your study mystery all only had...
00:14:42
Truthiness
Yeah. you'll Yeah.
00:14:44
Biggs
There's only four to go through with them.
00:14:46
Truthiness
So you'll know exactly what's in your opponent's hand. You won't know what they discard, but you'll know what their choices are.
00:14:49
Biggs
Mm-hmm. But you can guess... You can often guess pretty easily what they what they're planning on taking.
00:14:52
Truthiness
Yeah.
00:14:55
Truthiness
Yeah. Just got to remember.
00:14:58
Biggs
Because you know what... You know what... If you've been paying attention to... the potential complications. If you've been studying the complications, you know which one you want to draw.
00:15:11
Biggs
You know which one you don't want to draw. And you can be sure that your opponent's probably taking whatever you don't want, unless it's some kind of weird mirror match.
00:15:22
Truthiness
Yeah. Yeah. But even then, a lot of the complications give advantage to the player that flipped it. um So it's.
00:15:30
Biggs
I mean, there is the there is the tie that the tie goes to the player that flipped it to to begin with.
00:15:33
Truthiness
Yeah, yeah.
00:15:36
Biggs
Mm-hmm.
00:15:36
Truthiness
Well, there's a few placement things as well, where it's, you know, just starts with that person as well and they get to place more. So. Yeah.
00:15:42
Biggs
Mm-hmm.
00:15:43
Truthiness
so like
00:15:43
Biggs
My personal favorite one that benefits the player that flips it is um Tactical
Game's Foundation and Expansion Potential
00:15:51
Biggs
Extraction.
00:15:51
Truthiness
yeah
00:15:52
Biggs
I love that one. Oh, I love it so much.
00:15:53
Truthiness
yeah it's a fun one. It's It's certainly a fun one.
00:15:56
Biggs
But, mm-hmm.
00:15:57
Truthiness
i would, you know, I think we've talked about this elsewhere, but or while we're on talking about, you know, complications and planning, i would really love to see, um like, yeah we've got incident missions right now.
00:16:13
Truthiness
um One thing that I think I'd love to see I don't know what you call it, like, call it, you know, Sector battle or.
00:16:24
Truthiness
yeah I don't know. Or basically organized play. Type overtures. Like that's the category of them. That way you have your own subset. Of complications. And I want those complications.
00:16:36
Truthiness
To be faction specific. Like I want to be able to. Basically walk into a tournament. And I have my two choices. From. Let's say there's there's five.
00:16:50
Truthiness
five ah faction complications for perfection or four, whatever the hell it is.
00:16:52
Biggs
Mm-hmm.
00:16:55
Truthiness
And you just walk in to an organized play event and you've got two selected that you want to, that you have built your fleet around and takes a little bit of the randomness out, lets you,
00:17:08
Truthiness
kind of build to your strengths a little bit more. ah Because one of the things that that can be kind of irritating is you you get your two complications and they're both just terrible for you.
00:17:17
Biggs
and
00:17:17
Truthiness
You have no interest whatsoever in in playing them. um and And I think there's some real potential there to just have some some flavorable things that really benefit the faction that flips the complication.
00:17:32
Biggs
I will say, the that's not a bad idea, having like a faction-specific complication that can get shuffled into the deck when it's your turn to pull.
00:17:44
Biggs
Maybe that might be an idea.
00:17:45
Truthiness
you've got, good that's saying, you've already got a good bones that you don't, you can create a different type of scenario.
00:17:46
Biggs
Mm-hmm.
00:17:52
Truthiness
It doesn't have to be incident missions.
00:17:53
Biggs
Yeah. Mm-hmm.
00:17:54
Truthiness
It can be, you know, whatever you want to call these. I'm sure people who are more imaginative than I am can come up with something really good. And then you you know, have the, you basically, instead of battle, threat, politics, intrigue, the label is that organized play label and, know,
00:18:09
Biggs
Mm-hmm.
00:18:13
Truthiness
the complications are yours faction ones. um yeah Because it's it would be really easy to make that. And the bones are there.
00:18:20
Biggs
Mm-hmm.
00:18:20
Truthiness
And that's it's kind of the thing the thing i've kind of love about this system is the bones, once you get past the initial complication.
00:18:24
Biggs
Mm-hmm. Heck, heck with with ah with some if with some... Even some minor organized play support, those could even be...
00:18:36
Biggs
like cards that are handed out at the beginning of that organized play game.
00:18:39
Truthiness
Yeah.
00:18:42
Biggs
Like, okay, here's your, here's your new complications to play with.
00:18:46
Truthiness
yeah Yeah, I'd absolutely love to see that. It would be so fun. and They've got so much room to work with because the bones are just so good um to to start with. like They put a lot of time and effort in
00:18:58
Biggs
And you can feel like, like even with just the base game, this game sings. Yeah.
00:19:06
Truthiness
It really does. It really does. And it's part of you what I'm loving so far is that variability to play. like Even with just these limited sets of overtures and complications and situations, I don't think I've played the same game twice.
00:19:21
Truthiness
like It's different every single time. like There's just some variability that makes it makes it intriguing this time. you know Even if I've played Cloak and Dagger ah bunch of times on the complication, you know there's probably a different situation that's added some ridiculous obstacle in the way that's just made life that much harder.
00:19:39
Biggs
Well, you've got
00:19:44
Truthiness
Yeah.
00:19:45
Biggs
Well, you've got 30 potential combinations of overtures and situations.
00:19:51
Truthiness
Yeah. yeah And you're not going to get it, even if it's in your deck and you want to play it.
00:19:57
Biggs
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:19:59
Truthiness
Like you got to vie for the influence. And sometimes it's just not going to work out for you. And you got to react to what the other side of the table is doing. Okay.
00:20:07
Biggs
But speaking speaking of that, there is something to be said about planning and setting yourself up for round three, being able to be, but even if you don't know, especially if you know which complication, because it's going to be your complication, you know, what's coming.
00:20:19
Truthiness
okay
00:20:28
Biggs
You want to be ready for it. um And you can spend, you can spend that last round being ready for that complication to flip, having the right teams already created,
00:20:42
Biggs
having your ships in a position where they'll be able to pounce on whatever new objectives come up, or if you're Dominion, having your ships in a position where they're going to be able to easily hail your opponent since you're down two points and start shooting again.
00:20:58
Biggs
But... But... but
00:21:01
Truthiness
Yeah, man, that's exactly how Minty and I as game one is. ah I think I flipped the the directive, the combat directive of him on turn two. Maybe it was three. And essentially, I didn't quite kill it.
00:21:17
Truthiness
This stupid constellation survived on one hull, but it took a critical that I was able to place in his engineering.
00:21:21
Biggs
Oh
00:21:24
Truthiness
So it couldn't recover energy. It was just dead in the water. um but it then got saved by the complication flipping back to peaceful.
00:21:35
Truthiness
So it got a it got a full turn of reprieve, just kind of sitting there with these poor officers just going, gotta fix it, man.
00:21:35
Biggs
oh no.
00:21:43
Biggs
but
00:21:43
Truthiness
We gotta fix it. Oh God, we're going to die. And then, you know, bottom four complication flips, you know, and I just shove a torpedo its way and blow up, but it still sat there. Just like, I'm still here. I'm still alive.
00:22:01
Truthiness
um not dead yet. That was, man, I had a great, that was another Cloak and Dyer game. But yeah, Minty, I think so far Minty's, I think got, Minty Punch in the World Cup has, I think, one of the best beats on this game I've seen yet. um he yeah he's He's always commenting on this podcast about something we got wrong in the nicest possible way.
00:22:23
Biggs
i will I will say that in our in our game i in our game with him, i learned more than a few rules that I had gotten wrong or or just had glossed over and didn't quite understand.
00:22:33
Truthiness
Well, it got wrong. Yeah.
00:22:38
Biggs
But conversely ah conversely, we also discovered that his understanding of one of the rules was incomplete. So
00:22:46
Truthiness
Yeah, and that's something that you find at the edges of this.
Game Distribution and Future Episodes
00:22:51
Truthiness
Because, again, very complicated game to learn up front, but once you get into the flow of it, you start finding those little things and fixing them.
00:22:59
Truthiness
It's really any game that kind of happens, but I do feel like because the complication in this game is so front-loaded on the player, um it it creates grid great it creates great design space for the designers living on.
00:23:05
Biggs
and i feel like we're I feel like I'm finally starting to get there where like everything is finally finally starting to click you know
00:23:14
Truthiness
Yeah, and that over that that high complication creates a lot of design space later on for the designers. that they've got I love it when you can create a base of the game that you don't have to keep adding more rules with each wave to keep things interesting. You're able to tweak with the base and give things its own flavor. um This is something I think Star Wars Armada did really well um because...
00:23:38
Truthiness
You didn't need to add a whole bunch of rules because you had so much variability in that nav chart. You could mess with arcs quite a bit. You could mess with dice allocations, with range, um just through the sheer, that not um through the the the native parts of the game.
00:23:56
Truthiness
And I think that's another thing. like You can see the lessons that Gerns and Brooks have taken from their other games and how to you know keep something going for a long time without needing a bottom-up rebuild.
00:24:09
Biggs
Yeah, this this is definitely a game that has been that has been built. you You can see that a foundation has been put in place for other things to come in later.
00:24:26
Biggs
already plays tight and already it already plays really tight and and fun But you can see where there's so much more that is ready to be snapped in, like almost like the first module of an International Space Station.
00:24:34
Truthiness
Yeah.
00:24:45
Truthiness
Yeah.
00:24:48
Truthiness
Dude, it's right out of the box, too.
00:24:49
Biggs
know there's no module that's going to
00:24:50
Truthiness
Like, it is just straight out of the box. It's ready to go. it's tons of fun. like I, yeah, I no notes. yeah I just wish that I had no notes on the game. I just really wish this game was available everywhere.
00:25:06
Truthiness
Cause man, God, the, the overseas distribution is killing us. Uh, like,
00:25:12
Biggs
Oh yeah, yeah.
00:25:14
Truthiness
Yeah, because i don't think I don't think they're expecting it until in Germany.
00:25:14
Biggs
Yeah.
00:25:18
Truthiness
I think the Germans are saying like the summer, maybe it was spring. Brits are still don't have it in hand. i think there's some Brits that just freaking caved and and bought it from the U.S. and got it shipped.
00:25:31
Truthiness
And how that beats organized shipping companies, i don't know. But here we are.
00:25:40
Biggs
yeah i don't I don't pretend to be an expert on international shipping, but...
00:25:50
Truthiness
Let's get Colin Looney on here. He can tell us all about yeah about logistics. ah my favorite My favorite jarhead.
00:25:55
Biggs
you know that's I hate to say that's not the worst idea for a future episode idea that I've ever heard of.
00:26:01
Truthiness
yeah Get our our our marine buddy that used to be a logistics captain on here and explain to us what in the actual F is going on with the international shit.
00:26:10
Biggs
yeah
00:26:14
Biggs
Oh, logistics is logistics is difficult.
00:26:15
Truthiness
Oh, man.
00:26:19
Truthiness
Logistics wins wars. and It's hard. It's so hard. don't. Oh, God. i do some complicated things at work, but you throw logistics in front of me. My eyes just glaze over.
00:26:33
Biggs
Well, um, I think on that note, you folks have wasted a perfectly good, uh, better part of 30 minutes listening to us ramble about stuff.
Adepticon Insights and Industry Concerns
00:26:43
Truthiness
Hey, I can ramble some more.
00:26:43
Biggs
Um,
00:26:44
Truthiness
Have you seen any of the... ah but I just got back from Adepticon last week. um from It was ended last week.
00:26:52
Biggs
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:26:53
Truthiness
Yeah. um I don't know if you...
00:26:54
Biggs
tell us about Tell us about those ah first look at those models for the Klingons.
00:27:00
Truthiness
Yeah. So... um they had an interesting little treat for us. And if you're on the discord and saw crab box pictures, they had, they had the fortune the bread of prey out.
00:27:11
Truthiness
um And once again, i've I've said this elsewhere, but it, the Vortia is a medium base. It's not a capital ship foot stomp, which is going to, I think it tells us where they're going with the click. They're intending to go with the Klingon faction.
00:27:28
Truthiness
um I think you'll see a Navar, uh, like i have i can't you know say for certain i haven't seen anything but um i think anybody who knows the klingon faction from the lore background i think we ah can i expect a nangvar at some point in the near future um but models look great uh bird of prey wings move um and they had an extra treat for us they had an extra treat for us a
00:27:49
Biggs
Oh, so cool.
00:27:54
Truthiness
cloaking or decloaking bird of prey it looks funky and i don't know if it's like gonna be a a like an event prize or something they're sneaking i don't know what it is uh but they had a depticon it looked nifty as all i'll get out um so yeah jump on let me see if i can find this on the discord i'm crab box the one that posted the picture um
00:28:19
Biggs
I bet it's in either... Is it an intelligence brief, I'm guessing?
00:28:26
Truthiness
Yeah, I mean, he posted a lot of stuff during Adepticon. ah So I have no... I have no idea where you put it.
00:28:39
Truthiness
I'm sure it's somewhere. know it's somewhere in the Discord. i remember seeing the picture because I didn't get a chance to go see it until the next day. um it It looks empty. What else else do we have? So yeah, DeptCon, and then there there was um plenty of demo games going on downstairs. They had ah all a full starter set out, so this wasn't your traditional or the the the preview kits. It wasn't the Defiant and the Jemadar cruisers or Jemadar fighters that we have been seeing from the past year.
00:29:07
Truthiness
They had full-on core set intro game, like that first game of the... campaign and they had demos out on the first floor of the Bard Center um and i I was playing Heresy the first day i saw quite a few demo games going on people looked like they were enjoying it um yeah and the ships the models just look great ah attracts plenty of good attention those tables every time I walked by they were they were hopping so hopefully you know more people catch on oh
00:29:42
Biggs
Very cool. Hopefully they do. And if you do catch on, the best way to learn how to play is to listen to us.
00:29:50
Truthiness
Yeah, look at it listen to our evergreen shows.
00:29:52
Biggs
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00:29:53
Truthiness
like we We made them just for you.
00:29:59
Biggs
ah What, 13 episodes in?
00:30:02
Truthiness
yeah right.
00:30:04
Biggs
the
00:30:05
Truthiness
What else we got? I think I saw Gerns and Brooks drop in the Discord. they The f FAQ is written and heading to layout ah as of, I believe, when was that?
00:30:14
Biggs
ah Yeah, excited for that. i'm sure we'll be I'm sure we'll have an episode dedicated to just talking about that when it comes out.
00:30:23
Truthiness
yeah Yeah, definitely. ah Yeah, that was a two days ago. Gerns chined in to say that it was their top priority over the last month. um And they've been they've been pulling questions from all over. ah Board Games Arena, I think they were, or whatever the forum is.
00:30:40
Truthiness
um And then um then the Discord as well. Just grabbing as many FAQs as they can. I've been also trying to, you know, slide extra questions I thought needed attention on the download to them.
00:30:53
Truthiness
So I love working with these guys. They're super great devs. So um i'm I'm hoping they get the space because I know everybody's really worried about not that we want to get political here, but everyone's a wee bit worried about the game, and the board game industry right now.
00:31:10
Truthiness
um
00:31:10
Biggs
just ah Just a skosh. It's not a good time to be producing board game components.
00:31:16
Truthiness
Yeah, so especially given the struggles we've obviously seen with this game and logistics, ah hopefully the baby doesn't get killed in in the cradle. Because, man, again, were the reason we we're ragging on how much fun we're having in this game is that we want it to see be successful. We want it to continue. like It's not a selfish thing. like We want this podcast to blow up and make us YouTube billionaires. Yeah.
00:31:41
Biggs
I mean, we've always...
Speculations on Future Game Developments
00:31:43
Biggs
For Armada, we were horse famous, but we're not going to be we're not going to be anything more than horse famous, even if this even if this game does well.
00:31:52
Truthiness
exactly exactly i mean we're we're doing this because we're having fun and because we're we're liking the game like this is costing me money we're not making money off of this uh because it's just fun to sit here and talk to bigs and talk to y'all about you know what we're enjoying about this game um yeah i mean i what do you think the next wave's gonna be um i i
00:32:16
Biggs
I'm i'm hoping for um' hoping for Cardassians and Romulans, but we will see.
00:32:24
Truthiness
i think what might be kardassians and klingons like i'm wondering how long they'll leave that klingon capital ship void like it feels like that's something that should be addressed sooner rather than later and then like the dominion could use a little fleshing out too and the kardassians are kind of a perfect way to do that like do you remember what
00:32:43
Biggs
Yeah, it could be Dominion Cardassian.
00:32:47
Truthiness
you mean klingon klingon kardassian
00:32:47
Biggs
i would give you That would give you some options. I mean, heck, we still don't know what ah we still don't know what Sway does.
00:32:58
Truthiness
No, we still don't.
00:32:59
Biggs
And it could be it could wind up that the design um the design is like here are several main factions and you take a sub-faction and then that sub-faction has sway into the other factions and you kind of have two blo two blobs that aren't completely separate but overlap a little bit and who knows?
00:33:14
Truthiness
Yeah.
00:33:19
Truthiness
Yeah, it's the one thing we don't know.
00:33:25
Truthiness
Yeah. yeah
00:33:27
Biggs
Who knows?
00:33:28
Truthiness
Yeah. We got check the living rule, the living rules document, which, um, oops, that, that doesn't exist yet.
00:33:35
Biggs
Mm-hmm.
00:33:36
Truthiness
So it'll be interesting to see. um You know, I think I've seen Minty speculating. Maybe it'll, you know, allow the Klingons, like, to since they don't have a capital in the the box they're coming in, maybe that's how they get a capital for incident missions in the time being is just through Sway.
00:33:53
Truthiness
Maybe they bring ah bring a galaxy along with them and, and you know, it's ah you know a galaxy and a couple birds of prey tag teaming or a galaxy and two vorges.
00:34:04
Truthiness
Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh.
00:34:04
Biggs
oh ah
00:34:07
Truthiness
That's some beef.
00:34:07
Biggs
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00:34:08
Truthiness
That's some beefy looking chips.
00:34:12
Truthiness
ah All
Farewell and Encouragement to Players
00:34:14
Truthiness
right. I think we blather on enough for one night, unless you have something else you want to tell these fun people listening.
00:34:20
Biggs
ah Nope. have ah Get out there, put some put some plastic on the tabletop and have fun. It's only going to get better from here.
00:34:32
Truthiness
I'm not hitting random things on the soundboard. Nope.
00:34:36
Truthiness
All right. Y'all have a good night.
00:34:39
Biggs
Later.