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Sounders' Recent Performance Overview
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This is episode 278, and we're recording on Tuesday, June 26, 2018. I'm your host, Jeremiah Shan, and I'm joined as always by my co-host, Aaron Campo, and our engineer, Lickett.
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I want to start off by thanking Aaron for hosting last week. I only listened to the final 15 minutes or final 45 minutes or so. So I imagine he said some very nice things and he wasn't at all passive aggressive toward me. So with all that said, here we are.
Match Analysis: Sounders vs Chicago Fire
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Sounders coming off another frustrating result. 1-1 against Chicago Fire. Frustrating not so much because it seemed like they deserved better. I don't think that they really did, although they easily could have gotten three points in that game. But they just as easily could have dropped all three points.
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But disappointing because this is another lost opportunity at home. We keep waiting for the Sounders to kind of kick this up a gear.
Defensive Challenges and Key Saves
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They had essentially a full first choice starting 11, at least as reasonably available for them. And they generated 18 shots, you know, some good shots. They had some good chances.
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But then this week, their defense, I thought, really let them down. They only gave up one goal, but their defense did not look good. I would say this is the worst their defense has looked at home. Maybe all year? I don't know. That might not be a stretch, but might not be a stretch. I don't think the defense looked very good. And in any case,
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By the end of the game, they were probably lucky to not have surrendered more because Stefan Fry came up with three huge saves. Three huge saves in particular. He had six in the game. And then Alan Gordon missed what was pretty much a sitter toward the end of the game. And then they also hit the crossbar. So Aaron, I don't know. What did we make of this team right now?
Offensive Improvements and Ongoing Defense Issues
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It's good that they looked much better in the attack, because I think that's the bigger problem to solve, but it would have been nice if their defense had not shipped about the way they did because they were awful. I mean, I would go further than this is the worst that defense has looked this year to
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man, maybe against NYC DFC at home in 2016? Oh yes, the two-zero loss at home to NYC FC. Also on Pride Day, I will, oddly enough, I don't know that there's any, there's a weird coincidence. I think it's just the time of year. Yes, I think it is. I just think it's just a funny thing. It is. Chad Marshall, I think that was his worst game as a sounder. He did look slow.
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he looked very bad, Ozzie Alonzo looked terrible. I'm not worried about Chad Marshall, but I'm worried about Ozzie Alonzo, but I don't think that Ozzie Alonzo is as important as Chad Marshall. I'd agree with that. I'm not super worried about the defense, and it was encouraging that the offense looked better, but
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Man, those were three points that they really needed. I think they played well enough in the phase of the game that has been letting them down all season to get the three points, and I think that's the frustrating thing.
Upcoming Game Strategies and Transfer Window
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Because if they get those three points, they're not in good shape by any stretch of the imagination.
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they're in better shape you know and 14 points through 14 games sounds a lot better than 12 points through 14 games it puts them where Toronto is in terms of points per game you know so um and and I think that that's I think that with a competent you know typical Sounders defensive performance that they probably win that game and and not just because maybe they don't allow the goal that they do because I mean you know there's a good chance that they they allow a goal but because they were
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under so much pressure in a game where their attack was actually looking pretty fluid. And that was time that the attack was scrambling to try to get possession back instead of holding possession and actually moving towards goal. So that was a super frustrating game. But at least it wasn't a loss. I think another home loss would have just emotionally, even if it doesn't matter, that one point isn't a huge difference. Man, that would have been a killer.
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So yeah, I mean, Stefan Fry saved this yet again. If he's not on this team, they would be somehow worse, which is stunning to think about because they've been just really bad this year. But I mean, I guess all we can do is be encouraged by the things that we're encouraging. And I do think the offense looked genuinely better than it has in quite a while.
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Um, they were creating chances. The finishing wasn't great, but there was a fluidity to the game, um, that, you know, has been, has been lacking a lot this season. Um, Chicago's not a good team by any stretch of the imagination and they're playing at home, but it was still encouraging. Uh, and I think, you know, Nickelodeon arrows is important to this team. Um, that was, that was pretty obvious. Victor Rodriguez, you know,
Potential Player Arrivals and Team Future
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can, can be a difference maker for this team. And I think that was, that was also pretty apparent. So.
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You know, they've got three games, I think, left before the summer window opens and the reinforcements theoretically arrive. And they really need to build on the good things they did in that game to get as many points out of those three games as possible.
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Yeah, and I guess Garth was on KJR today, and he made it sound like at least one player was going to be ready before the July 10 transfer window. My assumption would be that that's Rui Diaz, who, best to my information, could be announced as soon as this week.
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But he also seemed kind of confident they could get a TAM before the window opens. But still, those are three games. These are three very important games. And they need to start playing better, frankly, because at some point it's just going to become an insurmountable hole that they have to dig themselves out of. I don't think they're there yet, but they're definitely getting close to that point where
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if they aren't collecting points at home against, and this is the thing, it's not that just that they dropped two points at home to somebody, like if this was, if they'd won this game and dropped points against Portland, I think maybe you write that off as like, eh, Portland's playing pretty well, that's sometimes what happens. But the Chicago Fire were coming off a midweek game, they were flying across the country, they were on, so they were on short rest,
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They aren't a very good team. They're not especially not very good on the road. And the Sounders ended up, I feel like the last 15 minutes, they were under a lot more pressure than they applied. They had that open look with Christian Roldon, had it on his left foot, looking at a pretty open net. At least the goalkeeper was out of the net. And if he just keeps that ball down, he could deflect it off Clint Dempsey.
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And that's potentially
End of Game Pressure and Missed Opportunities
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the winning goal. Wolf Ikram and Dempsey had a pretty nice combo where Ikram kind of lobbed a ball backwards to the top of the box and Dempsey tried to volley it and it was saved pretty easily. But other than that, I don't know that they had a real opportunity to score in the last 15 minutes. And the fire had
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two or three breakaways, a chance in front of net, another close range shot, a ball off the crossbar. The sounders were under quite a lot of pressure the last 15, 20 minutes of the game. And like you said, I think that all that pressure forced the sounders to not be attacking as much. And it was just
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Uh, it was a fun game, I think, to watch if you were there as a neutral, but it just was very frustrating from a season standpoint because it's like they took a step forward offensively, but then they took a step back defensively. Yeah. And I mean, I guess it's nice to be frustrated by a draw for a change, you know, but, um, it,
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it feels like those were the kind of games they found a way to scrape out last year and in 2016. And I guess that the turnaround hadn't really kicked off at this point in either season, but I don't think the whole is as deep either, especially last year.
Crucial Upcoming Games and Playoff Implications
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The Sounders did not play well last year in the early part of the season, but they were never this bad. They were never this far out of things.
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um yeah i mean the next three games are they're gonna make the season really i think um and hopefully they take forward more of the good parts than the bad from that game against chicago you'd like to think um yeah you know speaking of of
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of Ozzy Alonzo, you know, it was another, it was kind of a, I thought he was maybe a good bellwether of the game, because on one hand, you could look at his stats, and he completed all 53 of his passes, he had three key passes, which, frankly, I was shocked to see. And you could say like, oh, you know, that's kind of the Ozzy Alonzo that we're getting used to.
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But on the other hand, he just didn't, he didn't move as well. I thought the play that kind of summed up his night was there was a, the play that led to Nikolic's chance around the 78th minute or so, you know, the, I can't remember who it was, but there was someone dribble basically through the midfield, basically just goes around.
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Ozzie Alonzo like he's like he's a traffic cone and then delivers this bowl to Nicklage, which, which Fry thankfully saved, but there was just nothing, there was no sense that the, that the sounders were up for like,
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it's just like their legs were failing them in that moment. And that's very frustrating to see, especially for a guy like Ozzy Alonso, who has been so important to this team. And I don't know what his health level is. He might not be playing at 100%, but he definitely does not look like a player who is anything like someone you can build around at this point. Yeah. And I feel like we've been
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the last two times he's been injured we've kind of been saying the same sort of thing and then he rounded into form but every time that peak form has been a little less closer to peak Ozzy and it's taken a little bit longer for him to get back to it and at a certain point it's just you know peak form that he's capable of is what we're seeing. I hope that's not the case obviously but
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The Sounders actually have competent defensive midfield players that can not do everything Ozzy could do at the height of his career, but can make it so the team's not a disaster when he's out, which is a breath of fresh air for a change. But I hope I'm wrong. But at this point, it's just hard for me to see.
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Ozzy, even being a guy, I think we talked about this last week, and we talked about it in the first 15 minutes, so you wouldn't have heard it, obviously. But we talked last week about how it's not necessarily even about the price tag. It's about the fact that if Ozzy's on the team, he's going to want to play, and he's going to feel like he should be playing every game that he's healthy. And you just can't really, I don't know that you can depend on that anymore without
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you know, a really, really solid backup option and that backup option is probably not going to come cheap and probably themselves are not really going to want to sit on the bench. So it's a bummer of a situation. It really is. Yeah. And I would say that, you know, this is one of the things I put in my column this week, but I talked
Player Performance Concerns and Adjustments
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The Sounders clearly are more dangerous offensively when Nico Lidero can be deployed in that defensive midfield and he and he uses all that extra space and he had 108 touches, which is I think kind of what you want, but you you can't rely on him to be.
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like a real defensive player. Like he, I think he had one defensive action in the game. And that's, you know, that's a problem. But if, if Christian Roldan is next to him, he can cover for a lot of that. Ozzy Alonso just isn't at the point where he can cover for
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for a roaming player like a Nico Lidero. I think even Gustaf Senson, you could probably get away with pairing him with Lidero because he is at least tactically really astute and he's still got some legs underneath him. I don't know that Alonzo is that player anymore. So that's kind of frustrating. And I don't know what the easy answer to that is. Other than once they're at full strength, I suppose you could have Alonzo
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Or you could just basically bring Alonso off the bench as a late sub and he might be effective that way. And frankly, that might be the best position for Dempsey to at this point, as much as it pains me to say that because I would, I think they, as the team is built right now they still need Clint Dempsey to be
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like a offensive force. And I don't know that he's capable of doing that right now. He did at least, I will say if there was one promising thing, I thought Dempsey probably played his best game of the year. And not just because he got his first regular season goal in basically nine months, which is a crazy thing to say. But he did finally tie Freddie Monteiro's regular season record for the Sounders. So that's a nice feather in his hat, but he had several other good chances.
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Uh, it wouldn't have been a stretch to see him score another goal, maybe even two. Uh, so I guess if there was one encouraging thing, it was maybe, maybe it was to play a Clint Dempsey. I say that big drug. Yeah, I guess. I mean, I, uh.
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He looked better than he's looked this season, but that's not saying a ton. It definitely is not saying a ton. But I will say that I feel like he was playing maybe a little bit differently than he has in the past and maybe
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Maybe I'm almost certainly reading too much into it, but maybe it's a situation where he's kind of realizing his limitations a little bit more than he used to and adapting his style to that, which I think would be encouraging. I don't know. But he looked good. He looked pretty effective. And you're right. I mean, he's going to have to be good if the scene's going to have any chance. He doesn't even have to be good for that much longer.
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He just has to be good for the next month or so. And the fact that we're playing Portland helps, because he's usually pretty good. It would be nice for him to have at least one last big performance against Portland, wouldn't it? It definitely would. And it kind of seems like usually he saves those for playing in Portland. But maybe just this once he could do it at home. That would be nice. But yeah.
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I understood the reason for the Dempsey extension at the time. It's another one of those things. I think we both supported it even. Yeah. It's another one of those, those gambles that doesn't look like it's paid off so far, but you know, maybe, maybe that's starting to turn around. Who knows? Who knows? And I guess Victor Rodriguez had another, at least lively game. He hasn't done a ton, but at least you feel like when he gets the ball out on the wing that something could happen.
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Yeah, and he did have one pretty nice look where he cut inside and got off a pretty good effort. Yes, he did. He actually came reasonably close to scoring.
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Yeah, and he's definitely a threat in a way that Alex Roldan isn't a threat. He's drawing defenders with him. He's opening up more space in the middle. He's not a speed demon by any stretch in the imagination, but he gives the sounders a little bit more of a direct threat, somebody that can stretch the field a little bit, just kind of by the nature of the way he plays and uses space. So yeah, I mean, I think that
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Especially for the first hour or so of that game, my general thought process was, you know, yeah, when this seems healthy they're actually pretty good and you know they're actually pretty threatening they're not this anemic offensively for the last half hour, you know, I was thinking about other things that weren't as pleasant, but I think that you can really see the potential there, you know, I think you can really see.
Transfer Market Strategy and Offensive Challenges
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why, you know, there was a temptation to wait to maybe make some big moves. I mean, I get it. I really do. Right. I mean, I really do. I understand the thought process. And that's part of why it's hard for me to get too mad about the thought process, because I think I I really do. I understand, you know, like and again, like
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If Raul Ruodias was available in the early part of the season, if you could have had him then, would you rather have had him? Of course. But I don't see any reason to believe he was willing to move. As far as I know, the Sounders made an offer. That was effectively the same offer that was accepted.
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that they're getting him for now. I don't know that there was, you know, without maybe doubling that offer, I don't know that they could have gotten him any earlier. And would that have been a prudent investment? I don't think so. And so it's like, I'm pretty bullish on him. I think he's, you know, he's exactly the kind of player I want to see the Sounders pursuing for this spot. But man, I'm looking at the stats for the Sounders.
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And I'll tell you the one that jumps out at me, they have zero, they've drawn zero penalties. And even more than that, I don't remember, like there's only one other team in the league that doesn't have a penalty. That's the LA galaxy who I think have had at least one, if not two penalties erased by VAR. And I don't think the Sounders have even really had a good shout for a penalty this year.
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Yeah, I mean, I don't, I certainly don't remember any that stand out. It's possible, you know, that there was like a marginal one here, there, or maybe there was a handball or something like that. But it seems like every year there's like three or four big incidents that are like that absolutely should have been a penalty that everybody remembers.
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And I don't remember. I mean, it turns out that you do actually have to enter the opponent's box to draw a penalty, and the Sounders haven't done that a whole lot this year, so that's probably a big part of it. It's just, yeah, I don't feel like they've been screwed out of it, you know? They just haven't won any. Yeah, and I say that not as a way of decrying the injustice of the Sounders not having a penalty. I'm just saying that they haven't put themselves in situations to draw penalties, which is...
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pretty damning. Yeah, it's not great. No, meanwhile, the Atlanta United have drawn 10 penalties, which is, yeah, alive. They fall down a lot. And, uh, and the Sounders aside from Ledero and I guess Dempsey, but
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Dempsey just gets the shit kicked out of him and Ledero does too, but like, I don't know. They don't, I don't really feel like Dempsey embellishes a lot. He just falls down and looks pissed off. Ledero is, is a little bit of an embellisher, but like Atlanta has like 12 guys that are, you know, like, and it's whatever, you know, I'm not, hate to hate the game, not the player, I guess in this situation.
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Cause it's, I mean, it's effective, you know, this, they get into the, into the box a lot, they get penalties, they get dangerous free kicks. They have guys that can hit, you know, a good free kick. It works. Um, but we just, you know, we don't have a lot of those players, especially playing close to goal. Um, I don't like, I think you'd actually have to shoot Wilbrew and to get him to fall over. Yeah. And you could probably, you know, and what's, I don't, I think he may have drawn one, one foul.
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this week, he looked like he got beat up in the locker room. He had scratches and all kinds of stuff all over his back. Um, I, I felt kind of bad for him and he could not, he could not buy a penalty. No, he needs to start falling over. He needs to throw falling over. I mean, that's, it's an effective way to draw fouls, you know, uh, if referees aren't going to call him, you know, and their fouls like, yeah, fall down. It's cool. Grab the ball.
00:22:33
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Whatever. Wolverine would probably get a yellow card for grabbing the ball if he did that, but... It does seem that way, yeah. Well, that's probably a good place to call this a segment.
Listener Q&A: Sounders' Performance and Future
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We have a bunch of questions and I'm just gonna go ahead and let Likit start firing them off. All right, here we go. Freeman Mester. Freeman Mester, how many points will we get before August? Will it be enough? Portland at Colorado at New England at Atlanta, Vancouver, San Jose, and New York City FC. Those are all before August.
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That's a lot of games. Yeah, I was thinking that when I was putting that together. That's a lot. Gosh. Well, I think, realistically, I think you have to target the home games against Portland and Colorado as absolute no doubt about it must win games.
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And so if we can be optimistic for a second and count those as wins, that's six. And I got to take a closer look at the schedule too, whichever other ones are at home. I mean, the thing that's crazy is that the Saunders just don't have any more room for error at home. The season is not an impossible task based on the
00:25:04
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the pace of the Western Conference right now, 48 points is probably going to get you into the playoffs. For the Sounders to get there, they need to get 36 more points. That means they need to play at like a 1.72-ish or a 1.78 points per game, which is not
00:25:24
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an unbelievable clip they've done similar they've gone on similar runs the last two years so it's it's not like it's literally impossible but they they just don't have any you know you look at their schedule they just don't have that much room for error especially at home i mean they almost have to run the table at home at this point yeah i mean i think i think that
00:25:45
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they're to the point where not only did it did they not have a margin of error at home they've got to win probably not every home game but the vast majority of them they've got to start picking up wins on the road that you maybe wouldn't expect them to get um and i think you know looking at those games i think 11 is probably 11 points from those seven is probably the
00:26:06
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The most optimistic I can be. I don't think they're going to be Atlanta. I don't think they're going to be NYC FC. So, you know, they've got to be Portland and Vancouver and they've got to be Colorado away. And then they've got to pick up points against the the slightly weaker teams there.
00:26:27
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But yeah, I mean, this is this is the big stretch, right? This is the stretch that defines the season. Right. Like this is this is when they've started turning it around in the past. They're in a bigger hole than they've been in the past, which I think is, you know, a key point. But if they can't.
00:26:44
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you know, the reinforcements arrive in August. If they can't play at the kind of pace they need to sustain for the rest of the season over the course of July, then it's just not gonna happen this season. So yeah, I mean, this is really, we're gonna know before anybody shows up, I think the way, you know, the likelihood of this team sneaking into the playoffs again.
00:27:05
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Yeah, and I'll kind of back that up. And as I think you look all the way out to August, it's a little tougher because we don't know what this team is going to look like once they've added some pieces. But if we look up at least until the New England game, which is the last game they played before the transfer window opens, I would fully expect Raul, Rui Diaz to be here by the time the transfer window opens and maybe even ready to hit the ground running for that game.
00:27:30
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against Atlanta on the 15th. So if they can't get six points from their next three, I think you kind of have to just, like you got to call it. I mean, maybe not literally, it's not going to literally be over, but it's going to be very, you're going to have yourself on an almost impossible situation. And I think they got to treat that Colorado road game like a must win. Yeah. And especially because the revolution game is on a short rest and the revolution are pretty good at home.
00:27:58
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Go ahead. Sorry. And that, well, in that game, that game against Colorado away last year, um, I think it was on the fourth, right. Was the game that playing these fourth of July games in Colorado, apparently. Yeah. And that was, I think that was when the switch kind of got flipped. Um, they just trounced Colorado after a pretty mediocre showing in the previous game, if I remember correctly. So, um, you know, I mean, I'm not super optimistic about the season, um, but I could.
00:28:23
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i can be convinced that there's still room for optimism if they if they can get six points out of these next two games for sure yeah i mean i think if they can get six it's okay to be optimistic if they can't get six i i don't know that i have any sort of rebuttal for it because the like my expectation is they're going to get curb stomped against atlanta um yeah and so like any goodwill that they've built and and that maybe get me like there's
00:28:49
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There's going to be a lot of temptation to write them off at that point. But if they have gotten six points up till then, I think they can potentially recover. But I guess we'll see. So in the scenario where they get six points there and let's say they only get three more, how bad of a situation is that?
Season Evaluation and Speculations
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Well, I mean, I kind of think that if they
00:29:16
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Well, okay, if they're at nine points through August. Before August. Before August. Yeah, before August. So that would put them at 21 with how many left to play? With... There's seven games before August and they've played... I don't even know. Well, how many games have they played right now? They've played 11? No, they've played... That's what I'm looking.
00:29:44
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Uh, they play like good, good radio here. Do you think we have it? Like 12? No, they have 12 points. Jesus. Uh, they played, they played 15. So there would be 12 games left.
00:30:04
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Yeah, 12, they need, they need like, yeah, it's, they can't, if they're nine points, if they get nine points by the time August starts, if they're at 21 points at the, at the end of July, I don't see how they can pull that off because they would, they would need like 25 points in 12 games. Which is, I mean, they've played at that pace for that.
00:30:25
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period, you know, that, that sort of extended period, but it's crazy to expect that. Yeah. I mean, I guess they're not lit. Yeah. Again, they're not literally toast at that point, but it's during, they're not in any better of a position then, than they are now. Right. Really bad position now. And the one that they have more than half the, no, they're on a significantly worse situation at that point. Right.
00:30:48
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I just just asked because I honestly I'm struggling to see them getting more than nine. And that's just the home games. Well, well they get if they get not if they get they can get nine just from the home games and then they can pick up three against Colorado that would put him at 12.
00:31:05
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But they've got to beat NYCFC. But that would require them to beat NYCFC. And I think that San Jose Road game is probably a winnable game, but it's on short rest. And if Reed Diaz is playing and ready to go by the time they're playing Vancouver, San Jose, NYCFC, and they've looked good enough to get six points from
00:31:27
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Portland, Colorado, and New England, that definitely changes the equation. But yeah, whether he's going to be ready to play right away, whether he's going to mesh right away, I mean, who knows. Right. Okay. XZag asks, certainly this year's failures are related to lost talent, but there seems to be something else missing. Could the absence of Brad Evans be hurting us in terms of chemistry?
00:31:53
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Brad Evans, this is not based on any insider knowledge, but I don't think Brad Evans was very happy last season at all. And the team got to the MLS Cup final. I just think that bad teams have bad chemistry. Winning teams generally have good chemistry. And- School of Billy Bean.
00:32:14
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, I subscribed to the same philosophy, which is like clubhouse chemistry is much more about winning than winning is about clubhouse chemistry. Right. And I think are they missing some veteran leadership and it's entirely possible. Um, but I just, I think in general that, um, they're missing goals. I think that's really the biggest thing. Uh, and you know, we, I think we know why they're missing those goals that they don't have the players that can score them.
00:32:49
Speaker
Blue82vdub asks, what tips could you share for finding joy in the remaining games, meaning individual improvements, style of play, or other things we should watch that could translate to a better next year? Once the new guys come in, obviously that's an easy one. You know, Rui Diaz, I think, is going to be someone who
00:33:10
Speaker
you can watch, like I think he's someone that you probably will wanna watch regardless of where the Sounders are on the standings just because he's gonna be such a huge part of this team going forward. I don't, you know, and I would imagine the next tan player will be interesting. I mean, I think that there's a decent potential for this to be a fun attacking group down the stretch regardless of where they are on the standings. That might itself be like, it will be frustrating in a way because it's like,
00:33:40
Speaker
on some level, you'll be wondering like, can they even no matter how good they are right now, is it going to translate to next year? So, I mean, I think that'll be that'll be fun. And I think that most of the attacking court other than Dempsey, my suspicion will be back.
00:33:59
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, if they're playing good soccer, I think people are going to want to watch them, even if the games were, you know, quote unquote, meaningless. Because, you know, you're not a sounder fan if you don't like soccer, theoretically. Sometimes I wonder about some books. But yeah, I mean, if they're playing good soccer, then, you know, yeah, that's that's reason enough. Even if you're out of the playoff race, if they're not playing good soccer, if they're playing the kind of soccer
00:34:23
Speaker
um they're playing right now well i don't want to say right now because they actually look pretty pretty decent against chicago but i mean i think as a as a neutral watching the chicago game with no like with no context of the season
00:34:36
Speaker
I think that would have been a fun, like I actually, my neighbor went to the game and he was like, Hey, I gotta see Bastian Schweinsiger, like up and close and personal. I gotta see him get booed every time he touched the ball. You know, he still can still play and it was a fun open game. So I think like, it's like, if you take the context of the season, which is impossible to do for, I think for us or for most of the people who listen to the show, I think they are playing
00:34:59
Speaker
fun soccer. But yeah, it's when they're not they did in that game. I mean, they did on that game. Exactly. If they've been playing like that all year, they wouldn't be in this situation, I guess is kind of. Yeah, exactly. But but if they do, you know, if they revert back to playing like garbage the way they have been for much of this year. I mean, it's always nice to watch how younger players are developing.
00:35:25
Speaker
I guess. So, you know, maybe, maybe, um, Alex Roldan starts getting minutes again. I guess I'm not really selling this, but, uh, no, that's not a good, that's not the best sales job. I guess. Yeah. I mean, that's the thing. I would be a fun player to watch potentially. Yeah, that's true.
00:35:42
Speaker
Yeah. Um, aren't they both like still on crutches though? Yes. I don't know that they're going to be playing anytime soon, but maybe by the time the, yeah, sorry. I mean, and I think that that's the thing. Like if this team is shitty and boring to watch and there's no chance they're going to make the playoffs, it's totally fine not to watch them. It's totally fine. It's not, you should not feel obligated to watch a bad team play bad soccer. It's, it's, it's totally okay.
00:36:15
Speaker
OK, TRS PhD asked of the young players we have this year, which ones do you think have the opportunity for more playing time next year? I'm going to be unpopular and say that I think Alex will man is going to get a fair amount of playing time next year. And I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. He's not been good this year. But he's also played more already, I think, than Christian did in his rookie year.
00:36:42
Speaker
I don't know why he has but he has and I think people have kind of already written him off because he just he hasn't impressed and I think most people's impressions of Christian are from his second year because he really didn't play much at all in this first year and most of his minutes I think were later in the season so
00:37:05
Speaker
He's been better than I expected him to be. I didn't expect him to play at all. I expected him to spend pretty much the whole year with us too. And he has not been universally terrible. He's not been somebody that should be playing a lot of minutes.
00:37:18
Speaker
You know, he's, he's, he's not been. It's not like he's played so badly that I don't think there's any hope for him at all. I mean, I think that there are definitely some things he does well. And I think he's going to continue to develop and I think we'll get better. And I think that, you know, there's a, there's a really good chance that people are going to be pleasantly surprised by him next year.
00:37:37
Speaker
I think next year is a big year for new who I know that he's a regular, you know, and so people don't necessarily think of him as a sort of a newcomer. That's like an unknown quantity. But I mean, he's, he's got big steps in his development still to come. And if he doesn't start making them, you know, down the stretch this year and into next year, it's fair to wonder if he's going to take that next jump.
00:38:00
Speaker
Um, and then Wanna obviously, um, hopefully, you know, he'll be able to stay healthy. Um, but those are, I think those are the big ones that stand out for me. Tony O'Farrar, obviously. Yeah. I actually, I mean, I think Jordan McCreary potentially might be worth watching. He's not super young, but, uh, I do think that he is developing into a solid backup. I don't, I don't think he's going to unseat Kelvin Lirium anytime soon, but he's.
00:38:28
Speaker
He's, I think, I will say that it's funny to look back at the beginning of the season and think that one of our main concerns was back up right back. And it turned out Jordan McCreary was pretty decent back up right back. I would say he's probably a pretty solid upgrade over what we've had there. Now, if he could stay healthy, that would be helpful, but I digress.
00:38:53
Speaker
That's the, that's the new club motto. I think it's right. What's that in Latin? I don't know. Yeah, I was, I just wanted to add on about Alex Rodin. I think he's definitely played a lot more than Christian has. And I think they probably think he's on the same track as, as his older brother. And they just assume that he's going to take the leap next year.
00:39:18
Speaker
Yeah. And I don't think that's especially fair, but that's, I guess, a different conversation. Right. And yeah, I think Nuhu, he's got to prove something probably by the end of the year for me for that next step. Moving on. Ken Why is 2020, if we should get to that point, air quotes, that point where playoffs are mathematically impossible,
00:39:40
Speaker
Will the FO characterize the remainder of the season as a real rebuilding effort? If they do, what effect will that have on the Reams, the teams, and fanbase's psyche? And will attendance fall off no display? We kind of talked about this off air a little bit. And I don't think the danger is what happens when they're mathematically eliminated, because I think
00:40:07
Speaker
That's going to happen kind of late in the year, no matter what, though, unless they really just see no improvement at all, which I don't think is very likely. What I think is a little bit more dangerous is what happens when they're effectively eliminated when, you know, like we're saying, like if they're, they're at the end of July.
00:40:26
Speaker
and they need 25 points in 12 games or something, that's starting to get to the point of unrealistic expectations. And my suspicion is that the sounders are going to play as if the games are meaningful until they literally aren't, but the fan base is not under any
00:40:48
Speaker
the fan base doesn't have to do that. And I think a lot of fans are going to potentially start turning off when the sounders are kind of at a point of this is like playing out the string, even if it's not literally playing out the string. And I don't know, it's going to be interesting to see how that ultimately affects. Like, I think we'll see an emptier century-length field. You know, we've seen, I don't think that we'll actually see the attendance number drop that much. I don't know that I think they have a pretty strong protection
00:41:19
Speaker
38,500, which is probably close to how many seasons, like they probably sold that many tickets already for every game. But how many people are there? I think we're going to see a lot, you know, a lot smaller crowd. And I think anyone that ends up not feeling compelled to attend, you know, even a handful of games on their season ticket package are going to have to start thinking pretty seriously about whether or not they want to buy season tickets again. And so I think, you know, we'll see how that ends up affecting things next year.
00:41:48
Speaker
Yeah, and I think that that's why the team playing well down the stretch is so important. And I think it's why the front office and probably coaching staff is going to feel pressure to treat the games as though they're meaningful until they're mathematically not meaningful. Because if they're playing really well and they just dug deep up a hole, I mean, that's plenty of incentive for people to re-up next year.
00:42:13
Speaker
If they're not, then obviously that's a different scenario. So that's going to be crucial, I think. But in terms of, I mean, in terms of any, I've heard, I know this wasn't part of the question, but I've heard chatter that, you know, the season is going to do long-term damage to the fan base and the team's popularity. And I just, I don't know that I buy that. The Mariners have been absolute trash for a decade.
00:42:38
Speaker
almost two decades getting close to that point and as soon as they start winning games they start selling out the stadium again. Obviously they have a much bigger you know casual fan base to draw from but I don't think we're gonna see you know season tickets slashed in half next season no matter what happens. I think that I just think you know all cities like a winner but I think Seattle especially
00:43:03
Speaker
like some winner and and if the interest falls off this season if they start well next year it will be back if they get you know if they get back into the playoffs next year it will be back and I think that's okay I mean I think like I said earlier I think that sometimes we feel this pressure to
00:43:20
Speaker
spend time and money on teams because that's what good, good fans do. And it's just, you know, yeah, if they're, if they're bad and you don't like watching them and you've got something better to do, that's fine. You know, come back when they're good. That's, that's totally fine.
Fanbase Impact and Roster Flexibility Issues
00:43:34
Speaker
Um, so unless it carries over into next year, big time, I don't really think it's anything worth, you know, spending a whole lot of time worrying about. I think people are just more worried about, cause they've never had to worry about it before. That's just, no, that's fine.
00:43:49
Speaker
So it'll be interesting. I think it'd be good. It's healthy to be bad once in a while. Not to say that that's what I want to happen. No. MacFSU86 asks, how much of the Sounders issues are able to be addressed by adding a DP and TAM player in this window? Or should we be prepared to see more of the same the rest of the season just with more talent on the pitch?
00:44:18
Speaker
I mean, I think more talent on the pitch is a pretty important thing. The problem with the Sounders this year has been pretty clear, and it's that they haven't been scoring goals. And so if you're adding one of the better forwards in Liga MX and another attacking player for depth, I don't know that it solves all their problems. It definitely doesn't solve all their problems, but it makes them significantly better.
00:44:41
Speaker
And so, yeah, I mean, there's still gonna be work to do in terms of getting the roster to be optimized before next season. But I don't think we're gonna see more of the same. I think it's gonna be more fun at the very least. Yeah, I mean, I'll kind of back up most of that.
00:45:04
Speaker
I tend to think that these guys will help the Sounders become a better team. Now, whether or not they're enough to push them into the playoffs, that's a much bigger ask and something that's a little harder to predict. But I think that they're going to be better. They're going to be like, I just can't foresee them playing this bad indefinitely.
00:45:29
Speaker
They've been really bad. I don't know if you realize this. They're really bad. Oh, I noticed. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's 12 points in 15 games. And it hasn't been like the last couple of years where
00:45:46
Speaker
They weren't playing poorly necessarily. They just weren't getting results and they weren't getting goals to go in. I mean, they've been... It's hard to argue that. Yeah. I mean, I'd have a hard time with a straight face saying that they're significantly better than their point total right now. At this point last year, I felt like I was pretty adamant that they were better than their total. Queen Anne acupuncture has over a decade of experience healing the injuries of athletes.
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00:46:52
Speaker
Okay, staying on kind of player, incoming player things. 66jzmstr asked, is the Yanis Salabour rumor regarding this upcoming window? If so, what kind of dark arts would the Sounders need to use to fit his salary to stay under the cap for the latter half of the season?
00:47:11
Speaker
So I don't know that there's much to this rumor. And I'll say that anytime you see a rumor, and I wrote the story up, so I'm not trying to like say I wrote this up knowing that it was complete BS, but I don't know that it's complete BS. But my experience has told me that anytime a rumor of an incoming player mentions multiple MLS teams as being interested,
00:47:41
Speaker
that you should probably be a little skeptical of, you should be a little skeptical because that's not how MLS works for the most part. That's not to say that two MLS teams or three MLS teams won't ever scout the same player.
00:47:59
Speaker
Very rarely do you have a situation where you have scouts getting to the point of relaying their interest to the player from multiple teams. Because that's just not really the way MLS works. I mean, that's competitive. And MLS goes out of its way to make sure that pursuit of players is not very competitive in that way. They're worried more about competing with other leagues.
00:48:24
Speaker
Uh, so I'm a little skeptical that this Salabar rumor is legit. I do think that he fits the broad profile of the kind of player. The centers are looking for, which is, you know, mid to late twenties, fast outside player.
00:48:41
Speaker
potentially a goal scorer and a playmaker, kind of a real winger. So I think that that's the type of player that they'll be looking at. I don't know that, and I guess theoretically they could figure out a way to get them under the cellular cap. If you remember back in 2013, the centers
00:48:59
Speaker
Extended shell re Joseph's contract made him not a DP guaranteed him some money the following year in order to open up a DP spot which they ultimately used on Clint Dempsey now, I don't know if I'm less allowed that simply because they were looking for a way to let clean Dempsey get to the sounders.
00:49:17
Speaker
They let him do it instead of precedent. I would assume that if the Sounders wanted to, they could guarantee Clint Dempsey some more money next year. They could make him a TAM this year, presuming they have enough TAM to do all this stuff. And they could potentially open up a DP spot. I really don't think that's going to happen, though.
00:49:43
Speaker
It just seems like it's a lot of money. First of all, it's a lot of TAM to have to spend. I don't know that they have that much TAM to be able to add a third player that way. But beyond that, it's guaranteeing a lot more money than they were presumably planning on guaranteeing. And nothing I've seen suggests they're getting ready to do that.
00:50:04
Speaker
Yeah, and they would also be losing their ability to use a buyout next year without knowing what's happening. If you can sign Clint Dempsey in 2013, that's a risk you're willing to take. But given the last few years, I don't know if limiting your flexibility in the offseason is a great idea.
00:50:23
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, I don't, I assume like if, you know, you, I'm assuming you have guys like Roman Torres and maybe even Osvaldo Alonzo guaranteed next year. I'm guessing those are guys that they might want to at least consider buying out. And if you have already basically committed to buying out Clint Dempsey, comment, ties your hands.
00:50:47
Speaker
Okay, Antoine LaTran asks, which player on our roster or if you prefer in our 11 will still be here in two seasons? Who will go abroad to retire to another MLS franchise prediction time? I'm assuming players. We're not talking about one player. If it is one player, I'll say Christian, hold on, but I think that
00:51:11
Speaker
They probably want us to go through the whole roster. That's not going to happen. But I think Nuhu will still be here. I think that Kimkihi will still be here. I think weirdum will still be here, most likely. Hold on. Morris.
00:51:30
Speaker
He's not ours yet, but I would imagine he'll still be around. I think Aikram might go back to Europe before, you know, within the next few years, unless something happens and he starts getting plain time. I wouldn't be shocked if Victor Rodriguez is gone.
00:51:51
Speaker
That's not based on anything, just more of a hunch, really. But I mean, it's tough to tell with those TAM guys, especially if they're not guaranteed starters. Because if they're not starting every game, maybe they would rather go back home somewhere where they are going to start every game for the same amount of money. So that's where it gets tricky. So who knows with any other TAM guys. But I don't think Roman Torres will still be here. I don't think Chad Marshall will still be here. Ozzie Alonzo, Clint Dempsey, definitely not.
00:52:20
Speaker
Yeah, that's kind of where I would go with it. But I think, you know, most of them probably still be here. Yeah, yeah, I would think so. I think they're going to keep them here as long as they can for sure. I mean, they tried already and that didn't work out. So yeah, I would think anyone else I'm thinking that you maybe I don't like I was surprised.
00:52:42
Speaker
I don't know if that question is actually on this list or not. I guess I should look. But I saw Will Bruin's name mentioned among a bunch of guys that will almost surely be gone next year. And I don't know that Will Bruin's going anywhere. I think like he's a very useful player as a backup striker. And I don't even think he's a bad starting forward. Like I think you can win with Will Bruin as you're starting forward. It just depends on who you're surrounding him with.
00:53:15
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, I don't, like I can see Will Bruin being here for four or five more years potentially, just kind of as a guy that, yeah, I mean, Alan Gordon's still making a paycheck in this league. And Bruin's not making a lot of money either. Not crazy money. In the new mask, I guess, you know? Yeah, exactly. And I think sometimes people see those salary numbers that are pretty common for depth players now and they, their eyes bug out. Cause like in 2015, even that would have been a ton of money, but
00:53:44
Speaker
It's really not anymore. I mean, that's kind of got you also want around to, you know, Coach Brew and Coach Morris a little bit on finishing. Anyways, next question, Phil Mania. That's some cool names this time. Phil Mania asked if the sounder squeak in the playoffs. Do you think, do you both think that if we get the DP striker, we can make it into the MLS final third, the MLS final third year in a row?
00:54:14
Speaker
If the sounders get to the playoffs, I don't know why, like I said, same thing I said last year and the year before. If there's any, if, if the sounders get to the playoffs, I think they probably would have, I mean, cause you look at what they would have to do, how they would have to play from here on out to get to the playoffs. And if they're playing that well, they're going to have as much talent as anybody.
00:54:36
Speaker
Uh, they are, if they're healthy, I like, I don't know, like, I guess sporting Kansas city looks really good this year, but is there anyone else in the West that like you would think is. And the centers, by the way, tied sporting Kansas city in Kansas city two, two. So I don't know that the center shouldn't feel like that's a team that they can't compete with. And sporting Kansas city always looks good.
00:54:57
Speaker
Yeah, exactly. Somehow they're going to barely make the playoffs because they're going to collapse at the end of the year. So I mean, other than them, I don't know that there's anyone in the West who I think is clearly, again, if we're talking about a world in which the Sounders have reeled off, have managed to claim close to 50 points, which means they would have had to play gangbusters the rest of the year, sure, they could make a run at the N1 Cup final again.
00:55:27
Speaker
Yeah. And if, you know, if they do what they need to do over the next few games and really eyes is ready to hit the ground running and they get, you know, whichever other addition or additions they're going to make in this window wrapped up pretty early. It's not implausible that they can play that well. I'm not saying I'm betting on it, but yeah. I mean, if they get, like you said, if they get to the point where they can get, you know, the points they need, um, they're going to be playing as good as anybody else.
00:56:06
Speaker
Oops, sorry about that. I thought I hit mute and then it looked like I didn't hit mute anyways. Let's see, we're going to less serious questions here. M. Rathkeberger22 asks, what are the MLS's rules on using private supersonic transports for sounders players in the World Cup or potential sounders role to get them here for Saturday? That kind of is one of the three allowed private jet trips a year.
00:56:33
Speaker
So I actually, the more relevant issue is, is not rue Diaz because he can't play until the 10th. Uh, but it's now looking like there's a decent chance that both Gustav Svensson and Roman Torre or Roman Torres will be out. Uh, but that both those players could potentially come back. I, yeah, I, I don't, I, it is not, they, they could absolutely fly, uh,
00:57:02
Speaker
If they could, it would not count. It would definitely not count. Yeah, it's only when you travel as a team, right?
00:57:10
Speaker
Yeah. They could totally bring back. I mean, like all, and I mean, just for like joking aside the way like us national team players, part of the reason that they love playing for the us national team is they get to do things like fly first class everywhere they go. And, um, and that's part of why those guys are often able to come back from national team duty and play right away because they've actually had like a restful trip, which they don't ever do when they are traveling with MLS for MLS games.
00:57:40
Speaker
they should try to get on the whatever that space plane they're building that probably there's probably no endless rules against that yet so space uh space force space force yeah uh walleye rosito asks i have a friend who says pulisic instead of pulisic pulisic should i correct him or is that too petty
00:58:05
Speaker
why not as long as you don't correct him for saying as long as you don't say it's football right you can i think it's football mate yeah i i have stopped using them interchangeably because i'm so annoyed by people that insist it's called football and i did that for a long time too because it's just like you know if i'm talking about english teams it's makes more sense to me to call it football because that's what i do
00:58:30
Speaker
But not anymore, no, because they've been so obnoxious during this World Cup. And like 90% of the time, they're...
00:58:39
Speaker
like replying to women that they don't follow on Twitter and telling them that it's called football and not soccer, which I think says a lot about the caliber of people we're talking about here that care about that kind of shit. Yeah. So, yeah, feel free. I think you should give it a shot. I think it's fine to correct people about name pronunciation. Oh, dude. Yeah.
00:59:02
Speaker
It's okay. Cause it sucks having your name mispronounced. Yeah, we, and we've done it over and over again. As you might, as people may know, it's Campoo. Yes, it is. It is Campoo. Thanks. Look at that picture. Not Campoo. Let's see, it's silent. Anyways, Matt, soccer talk ass.
00:59:25
Speaker
could embarrass them one more time on a major scale. Would you prefer it be Blas Perez or Will Johnson? Will Johnson. There's no question. Blas Perez sucks, but he's not a piece of trash human being and Will Johnson is. Although I do believe Brad Evans once called him a piece of trash. He did. But I agree with you. Will Johnson all day every day. He's far more unlikable. Blas Perez seems like people like, I don't get the sense that anyone
00:59:53
Speaker
whether they were a teammate or a opponent, like, or maybe even respectful of Johnson. But all of Blas Perez's teammates seem to love him. Yeah, I mean, that's, I don't mind necessarily, I mind when we're playing against them, but dudes, they're just like, oh, you know, I'll be the villain, whatever, I want to win. It is a different class than the kind of things Will Johnson has done in his life that I don't want to get into, but you know.
01:00:20
Speaker
Bill Johnson is actual trash. He is actual trash. Okay, last question. Bill Jones TRPTS asks, how many timbers does it take to change a light bulb? Please provide the answer slash punchline. We should have prepped this one.
01:00:38
Speaker
It takes two, uh, one to go to whatever Portland's version of restoration hardware is and get notification medicine bulbs. Um, and the other to actually screw it in. So you can't, so is there, is that because, so I would think I would put a twist on the joke and maybe this is.
01:01:04
Speaker
The twist on the light bulb joke. Yeah, got it. It takes two people to it takes two timbers, one to look through the catalog, make the order and send someone else out to go get it, bring it back and put it in. Like one of them is clearly ordering it, picking it out. The other one is doing the labor. It's always good when you have to explain the joke.
01:01:34
Speaker
Also, I guess they have a restoration hardware in Portland. Yeah, it's like National Chain, I believe. Yeah, I was thinking of that other one that's in Sandpoint or whatever, City Peoples or whatever. It's like, yeah, it's a hardware store, but we've got like, $50 candles. I've never been into that store. It's a trip, man. I can't afford anything in the store, but it's kind of cool.
01:01:58
Speaker
I assumed that it was like a true value kind of situation. It is in the back. Like it's weird. Like the back of it's an actual hardware store, but then the front is like fancy to make fee for millionaires. It's crazy. Yeah. I have to admit, uh, we're doing, redoing our kitchen right now and we just put in some, uh, pendant lights that yes, are, uh, Edison lights. Uh,
01:02:23
Speaker
I like Edison lights, but we got to call a spade a spade. Yeah, I agree. We also say you can't gentrify Wallingford. It's not possible. That's a thank you. Thank you. I agree. It was gentrified when we got here. It's been gentrified since it was built. Yeah, I mean, that was kind of the point of Wallingford, I think. Yes, I think you're right. So guilty is charged. And I will put in my Edison light without any
01:02:49
Speaker
without any guilt or anything else so i get to enjoy mine because it was here when i when we bought the house oh yeah so it's you know it's fine good good i'm not i'm certainly not part of the problem of tech workers displacing lower income people from south seattle because the light bulb was here when i bought the house
01:03:10
Speaker
I love how we can justify these things. It is great. All right. Well, hold on. I got one takes three timbers. Oh, one to put the light bulb in one to cook the vegan meal that they're going to serve under the light bulb. And the third person to take the picture for Instagram. Ah, that's a better answer. But you saw the question earlier. So you probably did prep for it. Yeah, you were. I don't have to answer that.
01:03:38
Speaker
You had that written down, didn't you? You were like one of those Jim Rome callers. I don't like these accusations. All right. Well, good show, everyone. Thanks for hanging with us. It'll be interesting. I'm more worried, not so much about what happens to all you guys, about whether or not you're going to go to game. I'm worried about how if we can keep up the motivation to keep doing shows when the season becomes like lost.
01:04:07
Speaker
Like that's the big question for me. Yeah, I feel like our shows are actually more fun when we're shitty. Well, maybe we will. Maybe we'll just throw off all the pretense and we'll just start letting it hang loose. We'll start doing all our shows at bars and we'll be drunk and carosing and having a good time. Maybe we'll start recording during games. That might be fun. Yeah, that could be fun. Just live. You like Mystery Science Theater style.
01:04:35
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just throwing ideas out here on live, just in case, live to tape. Nobody's listening to this part of the show. It's fine. Oh, okay. Good. Good. Well, they, they won't mind me saying thank you to, uh,
01:04:51
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to everyone for listening and putting up with us. Thanks to our sponsors, Fullpool Wines, Queen Anne Acupuncture, Verity Credit Union, and our broadcast partner Bootstrapper Studios. I am Jeremiah Shan, signing off on behalf of Aaron Campo and our engineer Likit. This is No Study Yet This. Remember, you'll never get alone.
01:05:10
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Green Douglas spur where the water's cut through. Mountain wild mountains and tangents you flew. Canadian northwest to the ocean so blue. It's Roll On, Columbia Roll On. Roll On, Columbia Roll On. Roll On, Columbia Roll On. Your power is turning our darkness to dawn. Roll On, Columbia Roll On.
01:05:51
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