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From Self-Centeredness to Service: Redefining Church Community
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In this episode, Dan Sanchez and pastor Ridley Barron talked about the significance of nurturing a healthy church body. The discussion revolved around last Sunday's spicy sermon delivered by Pastor Barron, who received cautionary looks from his wife for his controversial comments. The conversation explored the value of an external perspective in breaking familiar patterns and how a high view of God and self-reflection can impact lives with the gospel. They touched on the early church's communal living, the importance of serving others, and the necessity of shifting from a minister-centric to a body-centric mindset. Pastor Barron highlighted how fasting and engaging with different voices in conferences can offer fresh insights, ultimately fostering a stronger, more purpose-driven church community.
Timestamps:
04:13 Repeatedly hearing words from other sources is familiar.
07:43 Early church acted out Jesus' teachings practically.
11:09 Serving others helps shift focus from oneself.
15:13 Resting leads to feeling more tired.
18:38 Shift away from minister-centered to body-centered approach.
22:03 Consistency of God's character in Bible stories.
24:47 God desires free heart-driven seeking, grace with choices.
27:22 Recognize sin, confess, and repent always.
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Transcript
Introduction to Sermon Review
00:00:01
Speaker
Welcome back to the Grove Hill Church sermon. I'm Dan Sanchez, and I'm here with Ridley Baron to go back into our Scripture Unfiltered series to kind of break down the sermon from this past Sunday, which was a fun sermon. In fact, I remember recording the sermon in the second service, and then my wife Amy came in.
00:00:20
Speaker
in between the services. She's like, oh, how'd it go? I'm about to go into the 11 o'clock service.
Challenging Sermon Topics
00:00:25
Speaker
I'm like, well, it's a tough topic because we're talking about that part in Axe where the two congregation members dropped dead. Ridley was especially spicy. He's usually throwing punches, but there are a lot of punches in this one, so buckle up. It's my feedback to her going into the sermon for the 11 AM service. I was definitely getting my
00:00:48
Speaker
I will call them my cautionary glances from my wife on the front row about things I was saying. Do you count those? How many glances did you get? I know at least three in this sermon yesterday. At least three. There you go. Just during one session. It wasn't spread across the three. Oh, no. No, that was three per sermon.
00:01:09
Speaker
And I think in the second service, I specifically said something pretty spicy and she kind of gave me a look like, okay, you did that in the first service and it was bad enough and now you're turning it up a notch and so. You're like, yep, and I'm doubling down. What was it, by the way? What was the thing that you decided to double down on? Well, the one that I specifically got to look is where I said, some of you don't have any talent, or at least I wouldn't know because you never offer them. That's right.
00:01:37
Speaker
And I don't even know where that one came from. It came out of my mouth. I thought, oh, did I mean that? And then I went, well, I guess I did, actually. So I didn't go back and issue an apology and say that was a dumb comment. But I did get the look. Yeah.
First-Century Church as Role Model
00:01:54
Speaker
This is hard stuff, man. The first century church was not perfect by any stretch of the imagination, but it definitely is a role model for us in the ministry objectives, the heart of those people, their devotion to what was at that point still a very new faith. There's a lot of cool things we can learn from it. I've really enjoyed going through this series. I hope it's awakened a lot of us.
00:02:21
Speaker
You know, talking about like your, your, I guess your preaching style, which can, I really enjoy and appreciate. I know.
00:02:31
Speaker
I can't say I've heard otherwise because I feel like everybody who's around loves your public speaking style. But I find that I often need somebody just as a man to come and be like, hey, cut it out. Stop. You know you're doing wrong. I know you're doing wrong. Stop it. Just to kind of be like the sports coach. You know what I'm saying? Has that kind of feeling to it that you know they love you.
00:02:59
Speaker
enough to say the hard thing that you both know is true, and that just needs to happen. I know not everybody works with that style too. I know in sports specifically, the way you coach boys or men is different than how you'd coach girls or women. You guys tend to like that style better, like that tough love kind of a thing versus over on the women's side, it's just a little softer.
00:03:22
Speaker
How do you balance that as a pastor in the pulpit? And it's funny that you say that because I do recognize something. There are Sundays where I will make a statement like that and I will watch the expression of men and it's almost like they're going, attaboy, good job. Yeah, we need to hear that. And I see some women who look at their husbands to see how they're responding.
00:03:43
Speaker
I don't think that's right. Pastor, get them. I've been saying the same thing for four years and he's not listening. I hope he hears what you're saying. That's the power of the outside speaker too. Sometimes when we get the feedback from the people closest to us, it just doesn't hit the same. And that would go for people even in our congregation, right?
Impact of Diverse Voices
00:04:05
Speaker
Like you can go to a conference, they say the same thing you've been preaching every Sunday. And it just because of the, I don't know, the power of the outside speaker just hits different.
00:04:13
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, I've had, had that moment. I mean, literally in my ministry and dozens of times preaching where somebody will come back from a concert or a great speaker at another church or something. And then we'll say something that I literally said word for word four months before. And I'm like, well, you didn't pay attention then. Why did you hear it this time? And it is, it's that outside speaker. I mean, it's like our kids. You tell your kids a thousand times to have good manners at the table and they go to somebody else's house and
00:04:42
Speaker
But they report back to you. The other parents do going, your kid has such great table manners and like, well, they don't do it at home.
00:04:51
Speaker
In marketing, there's this thing called ad blindness, um, where people don't, they don't, I mean, I mean, you probably saw some ads today somewhere. Do you remember any of them? Probably not. Maybe one. You probably saw dozens of them already today. Here's feed somewhere. You just get blind to them because there's so many of them and they would call them banner blindness to the ones that are like on the sides of the website or whatever.
00:05:15
Speaker
And it's a big problem. My marketers have to figure out how to deal with that. But often time we kind of run into that with our daily lives in multiple areas. It's not just advertisements. It just, yeah, we go into cotton routines that the power of the outside speaker is it breaks and interrupts the pattern, which causes us to see and hear things differently. One thing I've discovered in marketing.
00:05:36
Speaker
In preaching, you can say something several times, but it's that one time where the Holy Spirit really has opened their heart and prepared it that it gets in. So it's not necessarily they didn't hear it before, but before they just weren't ready to react to it and to be obedient to whatever it was. But then all of a sudden, on the fifth time, sixth time, ninth time, saying the same thing, they'll go, oh, now I get it. So.
00:06:02
Speaker
Makes me wonder, like we all probably get into this, right? I mean, even you, you and I get into this route where we're kind of hearing the same things over and over again. How do we get out of that? Oh gosh. That's a great question. I mean, if we know what's happening to us, do like, I mean, we can go and it's good. We can go to the conferences and the outside stuff to break the pattern. And that's what men's retreat treats for and all the old women's retreat, all that kind of stuff. But if we want to do intentionally interrupt ourselves,
00:06:30
Speaker
Well, I guess we just make the decision. Don't be afraid to attend the conferences. Don't be afraid to listen to the other voices because they do sometimes present the same exact information in a different way so that we hear it. Um, so. I'm not telling you to visit around other churches. I think that's absolutely one of the worst things in the world to do because you need the consistency of your own congregation, your own fellowship, those relationships.
00:06:56
Speaker
But I do think during the week, we should take advantage of the fact that we have a plethora of good Christian teaching that's offered to us from other voices. So listen to podcasts, read books, read articles, you know, follow a good, make sure it's a good solid person. Now, somebody who's strong in the word, but you know, follow them on Twitter. So did you see some of the things they share and see if those things don't shake you a little bit from a different perspective? That's good. I wonder.
00:07:25
Speaker
I think some of the things, one of the things I've tried that don't do nearly enough because I've had, you know, you go through seasons of doing things, but as fasting. Oh yeah. It's amazing how that shakes up everything because it just makes you angry at life. If you stop eating for a day, like how that puts yourself into perspective sometimes. Kind of clears your head of a lot of different things. So how to, and specifically going back to the
00:07:48
Speaker
sermon from Sunday, had a great question asked by one of my staff members today, and it's probably a great place for us to ask some questions.
Community and Stewardship
00:07:56
Speaker
He said, you know, you talked a lot at the Acts of chapter four, end of Acts chapter four, about the community of believers and how they held everything in common. They shared those things. He said, why do you think that was the way that they acted? What caused them to do that? And why don't we do more of it today?
00:08:18
Speaker
And I told him, I said, well, you know, I think probably the early church was trying to find the best expression, the best practical expression of what Jesus had commanded them over and over, love one another, love one another, take care of one another. And for them, it turned into the practical application of, I'm going to sell my goods and help pay for somebody's medical bill, or I'm going to help get somebody out of debt, or I'm going to take care of them in their moment of need with illness or
00:08:44
Speaker
whatever those cases may be. But I think the reason we've gotten away from it is because as human beings, we have this tendency to mess everything up. And they took a concept which was really good and pure and genuine in its origination, but over time we have corrupted it into things like communism, socialism, and even, I would argue, capitalism that might be taken to an extreme.
00:09:14
Speaker
So yeah, I think especially the Western church has missed out on this idea of true community in that sense and a right understanding of what our possessions are. So much so that we as a church, if we do have a giving heart, most of us see it as us giving God something when in reality it's God who has given us the ability to use that item. How do we keep our hearts in line with that reality?
00:09:45
Speaker
Oh, you know, as simple as it may sound, I think you start that day every day by just acknowledging, you know, first of all, the breath that I breathe is yours. There's nothing underneath my authority, nothing that's a part of my personal kingdom that I really have the ability to take credit for. And then, as we said, I think I said this Sunday, hold on to those things very loosely.
00:10:12
Speaker
Um, don't become so connected to our possessions that our possessions possess us. That's hard. It's really hard. You know, I find that I get stuck in a rut sometimes and it takes, it always takes longer than I wish it would.
00:10:32
Speaker
When you find yourself complaining in your mind about others, about your life, about things that you want, you can't get, or that maybe someone's treating you in a way that you shouldn't be treated in or whatever it is, it doesn't really matter. But if you're thinking about yourself and I find over and over again, and I wish I could get to it sooner, but it always happens real slowly and gradually. And I come to this realization and I'm like, Oh my gosh, I did it again. I made it all about me.
00:10:59
Speaker
Yeah. The more you make it about me, the harder it freaking gets. I'm just like, ah. As soon as I just focus on others, everything just goes so much more smoothly. Right. And I think that's probably why God created us all to have gifts and passions and talents to serve other people because he knew that the best remedy for having a focus on ourselves was serving and loving other people so that the focus wasn't about us.
00:11:27
Speaker
And I think I would argue that if you will stay active in your church, if you will stay active in one or two or three ministries that you have a passion for and that you serve regularly without hesitation, if you will engage those things, you'll find that you have less time to think about, you know, do I have the best car? Do I have the best house? What do my clothes look like? And you really, most of the time ministry, let's be honest, ministry is,
00:11:56
Speaker
Ministry is done for people who are in a position that we aren't in, which enables us to have that position to serve them. So the most common thing that comes to mind is something like a refugee program. As an American, I have the ability to serve refugees because they can't serve themselves. Well, when I do that, what the spirit does is he helps me to look at their situation and go, dude, you've got it really, really well, and you need to quit whining about what you don't have. We were talking specifically, we've got a family in our church has tremendous
00:12:25
Speaker
limitations financially is what that's the way I worded. They have tremendous financial limitations. But when you talk to the father, the husband of this family, he is constantly talking about other people's needs and what we need to do help meet them. And I'm thinking this is a guy who has every ability, every probably right in our minds to complain about his life situation. He never does. It's always about other people that he's trying to take care of.
00:12:51
Speaker
I find that it ends up yielding such better results. And usually, not always, but usually will actually lend to the things that you actually wanted and will make you happy. It doesn't always. But even just having that heart of service and focus on others attracts better friends, attracts, you know, in a business world that certainly attracts
00:13:15
Speaker
more of the finances.
Purpose and Work
00:13:17
Speaker
The business is made around helping others at scale. I actually just ran into this principle just the other day from a podcast on artificial intelligence, something the government's actually put on the table that they're debating in Congress right now is forcing a four-day work week. It's not a bad debate. You're like, well, if we're predicting huge job losses because of AI, then maybe a four-day work week's
00:13:45
Speaker
I wondered about it. I'm like, hey, I wasn't in favor of this now, but maybe it's worth talking about. There are lots of places in the world where they do that. There's lots of places in the world where they already do this. They're testing this already. Yeah. And it's not a bad idea. But one of the things that this podcast host I was listening to went up and said was like, well, for one thing,
00:14:04
Speaker
Let's, I want to debate like the whole notion that like more free time is better period. Yeah. Because we're made to work. Yeah. He's like, he was using language. I'm like, this guy's a believer for sure. I'm like, only a believer would be debating like we're made to work.
00:14:20
Speaker
I'm like, I don't know for sure, but I'm pretty confident he's a believer because he was arguing how study after study has shown that without work, that brings purpose. We suffer. A lot of depression will come from. There's lots of
00:14:36
Speaker
like kids who have grown up with rich families and have no need to work and they're miserable. Not that we all wouldn't want some more money around or some more free time because we're all busy, but there's a purpose for work and it's okay to not have three day weekends or four day weekends or whatever we think we need or we want.
00:14:59
Speaker
And it really just brings it back to we're created to not just be focused on our own fulfillment or our own self, but to be focused on others. And when we get away from that, bad things happen. Yeah. I have observed an interesting personal phenomenon for me. When I get so tired that I get a day off and all I want to do is lay around,
00:15:25
Speaker
When the day is over with, I feel like I'm even more tired and that I have wasted my life in that eight hour period or whatever. But on those days when I constantly push myself to be active and engaged and it doesn't have to necessarily be work, it could be reading a book, it could be
00:15:44
Speaker
spending some time visiting with my neighbor, those kinds of things. I always sleep better at night and finish the day going, I've accomplished what I needed to accomplish. It's amazing, interesting thing.
00:15:56
Speaker
You know, I read in college book by Aldous Huxley. I can't remember the name of the book. Just slipped my mind. But he was in a prison of war camp in World War II. And one of the things he observed was that there were two groups of people in the camp, in the Jewish camp. One of them was basically given the assignment to do nothing. They were just allowed to do whatever they wanted to do.
00:16:20
Speaker
The other one was given the assignment of filling up wheelbarrows of dirt on one side of the compound and moving them to the other side of the compound. And once they get them all moved, they tell them to turn around and do it and go back. That's all they did. But that second group lived longer than the first group because they had some kind of purpose. There was something they were excited to do and they could see the progress that was made in that. And so it was an interesting thing to hear and understand that God did really, truly create mankind to have some kind of function he was supposed to perform.
00:16:51
Speaker
And that makes sense to me when it comes to the vitality of the early church. It was this new thing, this new way of living and working and it kind of clicked of like, oh my gosh, even if we're not perfect, we can be made perfect. New things always catch on fast because it's new and exciting. It has the shining moment. Yet this one's still going strong today and is the world's largest religion. So clearly there's truth. Yes.
00:17:22
Speaker
But it was that fact of people were now given a mission and a purpose that was beyond themselves, and it was less focused on themselves than even before. Even if you were a Jew, Jews had this focus of an eye for an eye, kind of a focus, or bless your neighbors, but also where Christianity was like, now let's go all
00:17:40
Speaker
It was almost like a total refocus on it's all for others. And it's through the Old Testament, but you can see we're along the lines. Israel became all focused on the blessing for the sake of Israel being blessed when God clearly states in multiple places, like, no, I'm going to bless the nation so that you can be a blessing to the rest of the world. It's always for the sake of the whole world, not for the Jews' sake, though, of course, they're special in their own way too.
00:18:06
Speaker
So there's an interesting that's happened in the church over 2000 years and it's kind of been a cyclical kind of thing. And honestly, I think we've heard the church more ourselves by the way we've done this, but in that early church that you're talking about.
Church Involvement and Responsibility
00:18:21
Speaker
everybody felt like they had a place in it. They knew that there were things that they were supposed to be doing. They understood that they were all part of the body, as Paul taught. If you read through the New Testament, you will see names of church leaders mentioned, but that's usually about it. They don't go into great detail about them. They don't talk much about their character. They just simply mention that so-and-so might have been the head of this church or the starter of that church. But it's always about what the people are accomplishing.
00:18:45
Speaker
Well, then you move in towards the period of, you know, where the Catholic church really became prominent. And then later, even after the Reformation, it was all the ministers that were carrying out everything and the people lost their sense of purpose in the church. I think one of the most beneficial things that can happen in the church today would be for us to get away from a ministry mindset that a minister, a professional minister is to carry everything out and get to this idea that it's the body that's going to accomplish these things.
00:19:14
Speaker
Um, and I, I will say very proudly, I think that's one of the things we're doing pretty good at our church. And I'm very pleased. And I think it's why we are a healthy church in that, um, you may come to us and bounce an idea off of us, but we're pretty quickly going to turn around and you and say, Hey, God gave you that idea and I'll go run with it. Use your talents and your skills to do what God gave you a vision to see done. It's that kind of stuff that gives.
00:19:39
Speaker
I don't know, it gives you a purpose and a place in the community to serve. I feel that very much even with this podcast, being able to do this and have a way that I use in my day job and as a skill that I've developed in being able to serve the church in this way. I want to continue to find other ways where I can serve the church more and more, but this is certainly a place that gives me purpose within Grove Hill itself.
00:20:01
Speaker
I think it's a great example because I mean, first of all, I never thought I'd be doing a podcast, but I love it. I've really enjoyed doing this with you. So thanks for giving us the opportunity to do this. I'd love to see it expanded more. You and I've talked about other ideas we have, and I would just say if you're listening today and you have an idea for how to direct these podcasts, get in touch with Dan. But I think it's a good example of somebody going, hey, here's
00:20:23
Speaker
what I'm created to do. Here's what I'm really passionate about. Here's some skills I've got. Now, how can I take this and benefit the kingdom of God or the body of Christ? I mean, it could be anything from painting walls to fixing mills to leading a podcast. Which reminds me, I think I've had like four or five different couples actually ask me about podcasts and now I'm like, huh, maybe you should just come do it for Grove Hill.
00:20:49
Speaker
I've had people be like, hey, I know you're into podcasting. We want to do a podcast about Christianity, but with this angle to it, it might be parenting or something else. And now I'm like, well, you should probably come talk to Pastor Ridley about it and I'll get you set up. And that literally just becomes something we publish on this podcast. So you're listening and that's you. You're one of those people that have talked to me.
00:21:07
Speaker
Maybe this needs to be the channel you published. I think it would be outstanding to have a whole stable of podcasts that provide as a resource to people who may not make it to church or maybe want to have this be a front end for them getting into church, maybe an on-ramp for them to listen for a little while and then go, I trust these people. These voices seem solid. So now I want to go try out the church.
00:21:27
Speaker
So to segue back into from here to the sermons, we were talking about the sermon living in a selfless manner, which coming back to, what was the exact chapter?
Lessons from Ananias and Sapphira
00:21:40
Speaker
It's Acts five. No, it's four. It's the end of four, beginning of five, we overlap. End of four, beginning of five, yeah, about Ananias and Sapphira. Yeah.
00:21:49
Speaker
Gosh, this has always been a really interesting passage, right? Because it seems, it seems like to stand out, like you see more of this stuff happen in the old Testament where God's like, no, I'm just striking people dead. Vipers are coming and biting people on the ground, swallows people up. It seems like a very old Testament thing, but it just goes to show like God's fairly consistent. Like the same God of the new Testament is the God of the old Testament too. Same, same, same God. And this dramatic thing happens.
00:22:15
Speaker
And a lot of people ask like, why? It seems out of character, but it's not out of character. So it's almost like you have to ask yourself the question, like, obviously I'm out of alignment with God more than is God out of character. Like, no, I'm out of character. How do I learn from this? When this story happens,
00:22:34
Speaker
It seems like it ties into what we were just talking about, about ultimately focusing on yourself more than focusing on the good of others. Would you say that's true for these two individuals? Yeah, absolutely. You got to remember, this is a new church, a new movement, lots of groundwork being laid, lots of foundational stuff being put into place. And if you talk to any builder worth his salt, he's going to tell you, if you don't get the foundation right, you'll never get the building right.
00:23:02
Speaker
And so God being the ultimate builder recognizes this and he says, if we're gonna get this foundation built right, there's not gonna be room for any selfishness. We're gonna have to deal with it pretty severely. Do I believe that Ananias and Sapphira are Christians? I do. Do I believe they're probably in heaven? Absolutely. I believe that grace would be extended to them as any other believer. I think they made a big mistake at a wrong time and in a wrong category for God. And he said, okay, instead of letting you continue to mess this up, we're gonna take you out of the picture.
00:23:32
Speaker
And there might be like, I imagine there's things that we don't even know what would have happened if God had allowed them to live. Imagine like, oh, as if we'd allowed them to live and something major happened because they caused this church division later and that church ends up becoming this huge anti-church later on. You don't know where these things go. You just have to trust in God's sovereignty to know that God foresaw where this was going and decided to cut the root on that one.
00:23:58
Speaker
I was in a iPhone message thread with some other friends that I feel are out of place in this thread because all of them have their MDivs and one's working on his PhD in theology and somehow I'm in this thread. My friend was asking, why does God allow
00:24:18
Speaker
like so many denominations and so many weird beliefs about the bible it's like it creates disunity it's like such a bad thing and another friend like well like who's who's to know what like obviously god's allowed it and so on god's sovereignty he's infinitely wiser than we are to allow this to happen for some kind of reason that we can't explain but it makes me look back at this and be like oh like god doesn't intervene in some ways and is a mystery to us and we just have to trust him but clearly he he like intervenes in some points and times he's like no bam
00:24:47
Speaker
Right. Done. Well, from the very beginning, I think God's desire has always been that people would seek them with all their hearts out of their own free choice. So if you can imagine a God who strikes dead everybody who makes a mistake, then that's not free choice. That's us operating out of an unhealthy fear of him rather than a healthy fear of him. So I think God early on did some things that he wouldn't normally have done in order to, like I said, get the foundation right, but eventually
00:25:17
Speaker
Because of Jesus Christ, grace was going to enter the picture in a more prominent way and God was going to allow us to make choices.
00:25:26
Speaker
You go back to what you just said, this idea of what would have happened if Ananias and Sapphira had been allowed to live. I think we actually see evidence of this in a very strange way today. And it's the number of cases where we hear stories of pastors who fail morally at a church. They are dismissed by that church and they go down the road to another church. And the first church, the original church, doesn't call out or give a warning to that church where he is hired to say,
00:25:55
Speaker
You just need to be aware of some choices they've made. And what happens is he winds up bringing down another church or harming another little child or breaking up some marriage because this is a man who's not moral, not living according to God's standards. So if Ananias and Sapphira were going to lie about such a little thing where they really didn't have to lie, um, I think maybe God was going, you know what, Ananias could, he could be the next pastor of Antioch and he could screw up that whole church.
00:26:22
Speaker
and early on it mattered, because how you starts so important. And of course how you finish, but luckily we don't have to be in control of how it's finished, because God's already set that in place. That's right. Thankfully he did not leave the interview determined by us. Praise his name. Yeah. Yeah. So I think there's, I mean, good, good stuff in this story. I wasn't joking when I started the sermon Sunday saying, there's a lot of sermons in here.
00:26:49
Speaker
You know, we're, we're doing again, the 30,000 foot view of what happened in the church. And I think we're pulling out some really good stuff, but some of these, some of these passages easily could be two or three or four sermons in one. So to kind of wrap this up, how can we look at our own mistakes or own things that we're hiding and kind of say, sorry to God and start fresh.
Confession and Repentance
00:27:12
Speaker
What would you recommend for anybody listening to this? That's kind of knows they're holding onto something where they feel like
00:27:17
Speaker
Yeah, if I had been Ananias and Sapphira, that might have made me struck dead. I think there's several things that we always have to keep before us. Number one is there is no such thing as an excusable sin for God. The danger of us trying to rank our sin is that we're always going to rank our sin less important than everybody else's. We're very judgmental that way. So don't get caught playing that game. Number two,
00:27:42
Speaker
always take the time to confess and repent when God brings things to mind. I don't believe it's really humanly possible for us to confess and repent of every sin because we don't always recognize every sin that's in our life or sometimes they come in such bundles that we can't get to all of them. I think, but we do have a responsibility that when one comes to our mind, the first thing we should do is confess and repent and we should not dismiss that practice as being unimportant.
00:28:12
Speaker
because, I mean, God clearly says it's important to keep your relationship healthy. And then I think the third thing that's really, really important is to work really intentionally to keep our view of God as high and as elevated as it possibly can be. You go back and read through the Psalms, there are several Psalms that have that phrase in there, ascribe to the Lord, the glory do his name, ascribe to the Lord,
00:28:39
Speaker
glory and honor and strength. And I think what the Psalmist was doing was in every one of those cases, starting off the Psalm by going, let me remind myself of how big and holy my God really is. And then I'll properly see myself in the right perspective. So thanks for listening to this podcast.
00:28:57
Speaker
Remember the mission of Grove Hill Church and thus this podcast is to impact the life of every person with the whole gospel by any means possible. So as you're listening to this today, remember that not only does the world need to hear the gospel, but often we need to preach the gospel to our own hearts in order to stay true, in order to stay pure, in order to think less of ourselves.
00:29:19
Speaker
or think of ourselves less, to put it that way, to think more about our brothers and sisters around us and our community. So with that in mind, let's go through this week and take this hard lesson learned in the past in order to help us learn how to live better today. It's good.