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Episode 156: Off-Season Transactions
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Alex and Corey give their reactions to the Cavs off-season moves so far. We discuss the drafting of Tyrese Proctor at pick 49, the Isaac Okoro for Lonzo Ball trade, the return of Larry Nance Jr., and the signings of Sam Merrill and Luke Travers. We mourn the loss of Ty Jerome and debate if these roster moves make the team better. We also talk about the rumors of a possible Lebron James return to Cleveland. And last but not least the WNBA has officially announced that Cleveland will be the home of an expansion team in 2028.
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Introduction and Overview
00:00:15
Speaker
Hey Cavs fans, welcome to another episode of the Cavs Pick and Roll Podcast, the podcast for diehard fans. Bye, diehard fans. I'm Alex, and I'm here with Corey. How's it going, Corey? It is going
Thunder's Championship and Halliburton's Injury
00:00:26
Speaker
great. The NBA season is finally over, and we're the to that exciting time of the year, Alex, where all fan bases once again think they have a chance.
00:00:37
Speaker
Ha as they watch their teams try to improve. But I wanted to ask you, and I know it's been done here for a little bit now, and I remember last time you said you weren't really watching, but I think everybody by now knows that the Oklahoma ah City Thunder won the championship this year.
00:00:54
Speaker
you have any thoughts, takes, opinions on how you know that kind of won and how the Thunder ended up being you know this year's champions? No, not really. i mean, they were the most dominant team pretty much all season in the West.
00:01:14
Speaker
Not surprised. It sucks that Halliburton went down with the injury in Game 7. that's That's just the worst for any team. Wouldn't wish that on anybody, but it happened.
00:01:26
Speaker
um Yeah, I don't know. What are your thoughts? that that That was pretty heartbreaking to see, right? from ah From a basketball fan perspective, like i like I've said on the last episode or two, i watched way more than what I was you know expecting to.
00:01:42
Speaker
um Years prior, I kind of checked out after the Cavs would get eliminated, but this year I was dialed in. Seven games, NBA finals. you know Last time that happened was back in 2016, just slugfest.
00:01:54
Speaker
And even how, even after Halliburton went down, that game was very competitive and tight.
Player Comparisons and Offseason Moves
00:02:01
Speaker
Pacers even had a lead going into halftime, but after halftime, you know, the thunder just came out and, and rolled them.
00:02:08
Speaker
But I guess my thoughts are, you know, the thunder just had the right pieces, the right players, right. The right style of game. They really didn't face adversity during their run as far as like a major injury or anything like that.
00:02:23
Speaker
And they were able to win it all. and And there'll be a team that'll be likely labeled as the favorites you know next season. But the biggest takeaway I took, Alex, from the and NBA Finals,
00:02:35
Speaker
is that TJ McConnell is this generation's Matthew De La Vadova because he won he won the hearts of many NBA fans worldwide with his efforts, much like Dele did 10 years ago back in 2015 with his heroic performance after Kyrie Irving went down and he's trying to guard Steph.
00:02:56
Speaker
Curry, um you know, so that was kind of cool to see ah both in losing efforts, unfortunately. But yeah, TJ McConnell definitely got some love. And what was disappointing for me was that was supposed to be what Ty Jerome was supposed to do.
00:03:12
Speaker
Like that was the kind of run Ty was supposed to have, you know, and get that recognition. And then instead it was it was somebody else. But yeah, now it's done, Alex. The season's over.
00:03:24
Speaker
And again, um you know, offseason is here. The draft has happened. Free agency is happening. Trades are happening. Everything's in full swing.
00:03:34
Speaker
And what I love about this offseason compared to past ones is I feel like there's always been somebody holding back. everything hostage. There's some big free agent.
00:03:46
Speaker
There's some, you know, trade that needs to go down to where like the NBA kind of waits to do everything until that first ball drops. And this year, everything happened relatively quickly, right? I mean, it's about to be July 4th this weekend. And I feel like all the major free agents are going to be signed up by this weekend.
00:04:06
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. It sure seems like it's going that way. There's already been some big moves with Kevin Durant going to Houston. Yep. Yep. We'll get in. Yeah, we'll get into all that.
00:04:17
Speaker
We'll get into it. But um yeah, just just kind of different, fast paced this year. And there isn't too many big names in the free agency pool, um but anything can happen, right? Trades and and so on and so forth. And like I said, there's kind of this illusion if you're you know whatever NBA fan base you're a part of, there's this illusion of my team can somehow get better. They can make a trade. They can make a great draft choice. They can make a free agent signing.
00:04:45
Speaker
And it's just that refreshing sense of being able to reset again. And for Cavs fans left with a bad taste, that it's probably no different here, right? We just want to see this team perform like they should
Cavaliers' Trades and Strategy Assessment
00:04:58
Speaker
and excel. So, um,
00:05:01
Speaker
Alex, let's get into kind of the offseason transactions the Cavs have made so far, which when you think about it, they've actually made quite a few already considering how limited they were.
00:05:13
Speaker
Which one do you want to start off with and talk about? Well, I think we should start with what I think happened first, which was the Okoro trade. Okoro for Lonzo Ball.
00:05:26
Speaker
Man. I mean. Straight up. Straight up. Yeah, straight up. No picks. No throw-ins. That was what was most wild to me because it's how often do you see a trade just straight up?
00:05:40
Speaker
But their salaries were close enough that it allowed it. And I don't know about you, Alex. like that came that That caught me. That blindsided me.
00:05:50
Speaker
Yeah, I didn't expect that at all. I mean, I you know i thought for sure that Isaac Okoro could be moved and that he was likely to be moved. I did not see Lonzo Ball as a target at all.
00:06:04
Speaker
No. Not at all. Not at all. Yeah. And, you know, you start you start looking into him again. Right. And you're like, crap, he's played 35 games in the last three seasons. That's right. He has those knees that just, you know, have have kind of wrecked his, you know, almost half of his career now. He's been in league six years. Yeah.
00:06:29
Speaker
But at the same time, Alex, he is a player that when healthy can be dynamic, can be valuable to this team. And the Cavs decided to roll the dice with with going with Lonzo Ball.
00:06:43
Speaker
um We were kind of looking at his contract situation before we started recording. He's got two years left on his deal, both at $10 million a year, but the second year is a player option.
00:06:57
Speaker
And I feel like at least, Alex, if you know he's unable to be healthy or just doesn't contribute the way that the Cavs are hoping, at least there's a little bit of an out after this season. I don't and don't care about the out.
00:07:10
Speaker
i don't care that I don't care that it's an expiring contract or... any of the benefits from that point of view, because Cavs are in win now mode and we need players that can play and and help us win.
00:07:23
Speaker
So I don't really care if we're going into the second apron or how much Dan Gilbert is spending. Like, I just want to win and I want to add players to this team that can help us win.
00:07:35
Speaker
and I don't know if Lonzo Ball is the guy. Lonzo Ball scares me a little bit. He didn't play at all in the 22-23 season. He didn't play at all in the 23-24 season.
00:07:46
Speaker
He only played 35 games last season. he And he only played until February. So he's been sitting again since February. He hasn't played a full season his entire career.
00:07:59
Speaker
Man, I, you know, I read the threads on Reddit. Everybody's high on him talking about he's a dynamic player. He's a great player. He's a better player than Okoro. Is he a better player than Okoro if he's on the bench that injured?
00:08:12
Speaker
Like, no i is he helping us win if he's not playing? I don't get it. There plenty of fans that were thrilled that the Cavs have finally moved on from Okoro. But I'll say this, Akuro is a body, a young body, a healthy body that can be on the floor when when needed.
00:08:31
Speaker
to where we don't know if that's going to happen with ball, and you're absolutely right. We need somebody that's going to be able to contribute. And i guess the Cavs, for whatever reason, decided to take the gamble anyways.
00:08:42
Speaker
it's It's very high risk, but also has the potential to be high reward. Because if somehow he magically is able to be around when it matters, come playoff time and plays the way he is capable of, you know, that that could be a very nice piece. But yeah, Okoro at least was stable.
00:09:05
Speaker
you You know, he he's had some injuries throughout his career, but nothing like what we're talking about with Lonzo Ball. Right. Yeah, you know it's it's high risk, high reward with Lonzo Ball. ah yeah We got lucky with Ty Jerome. Ty Jerome was coming off a significant injury the season before where he only played for two games and then was out the entire season.
00:09:26
Speaker
yeah Maybe we'll get the same thing with Lonzo Ball. you know I don't know. It's tough to say. It's tough to say. Time will tell. There'll be a lot of eyeballs in that situation.
00:09:36
Speaker
But Alex, let's talk for a second about Kuro. He's drafted number five overall. I've seen plenty people that label him as a bust as a result. you know um He probably was drafted higher than what he probably should have been.
00:09:53
Speaker
I don't remember that draft being a stellar draft though, either. And you know, he started to develop a little bit of a better shot from, from three, you know, the last year or two, but he did never really blossom into that three and d you know, kind of player that we were looking for.
00:10:11
Speaker
But what are your thoughts or any just kind of final things to talk about with, with Izo Akuro's time as a Cleveland Cavaliers, it has come to an end. I think you I remember Isaac Akuro. Yeah.
00:10:22
Speaker
I think he is a solid 3 and D player off the bench. I think that he never, like you said, he never developed to be more than that.
00:10:33
Speaker
He was never aggressive enough on the offensive end. He was a good defender, but you know you can't be a plus on one side and a minus on the other side. You need to you need to be you know decent.
00:10:46
Speaker
and His three-point shooting was up. you know he He was just never a playmaker, never an incredible handle. There was never anything very you know anything that really stood out as spectacular in his game.
00:11:03
Speaker
that I think made him, you know, invaluable enough to to be in that starting lineup or be or to, the you know, to keep on a team that that that is in win now mode. So, you know, i he'll he'll be a good role player somewhere else, just like he was for us.
00:11:23
Speaker
I think he can contribute very good to a winning team. I'm sad to see him go, but maybe it was just time for so for you know a fresh face on the roster in his place. Yeah, I was telling when he couldn't even get consistent rotational minutes throughout the playoff you know run this past season. right That says a lot right there.
00:11:41
Speaker
And listen, he's going to Chicago. Chicago is not, you know, in a great place right now. um And maybe that'll be good for him. He'll he'll he'll probably get minutes. I could see them throwing and throwing 20, 25 minutes to him a night over there. And that'll allow him to continue to work and develop. And, you know, who knows what he turns into a couple of years down the road. But um yeah, the Cavs have it decided to move on. What I what I'll always remember from him, i can't remember if it was two years ago now.
00:12:07
Speaker
But he had this dunk against the Houston Rockets, where was over three players at once. It was amazing. um Just even that still image, like watching the video is amazing. But just seeing the still image of him just dunking on three people, it's like reminding me of like Shaq days doing that back in the day. it was probably one of his best plays as a Cavalier.
00:12:29
Speaker
Yeah. so Somebody had reposted that clip on Reddit and I i just just watched it. Yeah. Yesterday, I think. That was spectacular. i wish i This one thing I wish he would have developed more into is just like attack that rim and just throw it down everybody's throat because he's he's athletic. He's got he's got hops. But, um you know, it is what it is. The Cavs made the trade. They decided to move on, bring in a bit of a gamble. It'll be interesting to see what they do or how Lonzo Ball.
00:12:56
Speaker
you know, kind of handles, you know, the season. um I hope his dad, I hope his dad stays home. Yeah. I hope he doesn't come anywhere. don't want any of that as well. I don't want any of as well.
Cavs' Draft Picks and Guard Discussion
00:13:09
Speaker
All right, Alex. So you brought up Lonzo ball first. absolutely make sense. That was a big trade that we'd really didn't see coming, but I want to talk about something else that actually happened just right before that was the NBA draft.
00:13:22
Speaker
And the Cavs didn't, you know, do anything too exciting. They didn't trade into the first round. They didn't move up or anything like that. um But they did have a pair of picks in the second round, late into the second round.
00:13:34
Speaker
We really want to talk about one of them at the 49th pick. The Cavs took Tyrese Proctor out of Duke, a guard, um Alex. And what's cool about him is he's another Australian that we're adding to the roster.
00:13:49
Speaker
Um, but he, um, looking at his stats, he 40% three point shooter, which is fantastic. I think we'll take shooters all day. Averaged about was shy of 13 points, played almost 30 minutes a game.
00:14:02
Speaker
And, um, the Cavs even already locked him up with the, with the multi-year contract, a four year deal. 8.9 million first two years guaranteed. um You know, have you seen anything on Proctor or do you have any kind of thoughts on the Cavs, you know, taking a guard there?
00:14:21
Speaker
So I haven't really read too much about him. Just a, just a little bit. I haven't really seen any clips or anything. I, you know, I saw some like stuff from ESPN giving us draft ratings. You know, they gave us ah a minus for drafting Proctor Um, just, just the kind of similar to what you said. I saw that, you know, he's a six foot four guard. He's in his junior season at Duke.
00:14:44
Speaker
So he's already kind of seasoned. He's 21 years old. So ah couple of years older than some of the 18, 19 year old kids that, you know, other teams are drafting. So, uh, you know, I'm hopeful, uh, you know, we could always use a guard to, to help fill in that space behind Garland. That's always an issue for the Cavs every season.
00:15:05
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. And, you know, after they took Proctor and then shortly after the draft, you know, make this trade for Alonzo Ball, it kind of spelled out the fate for Ty Jerome pretty pretty quickly, right? Unfortunately.
00:15:22
Speaker
um And, you know, i guess let's talk about Ty next is... you know I think he became easily a fan favorite last year.
00:15:32
Speaker
you know he was one of my favorite players to watch. I think you said that as well. Kind of just had a season that came out of nowhere and surprised a lot of NBA teams, a lot of NBA fans.
00:15:44
Speaker
And we knew because of our cap situation, there was a high risk of Ty Jerome not coming back. But the problem is, Alex, is it feels like the Cavs could have brought him back. Consider contract. He ended up landing with the Memphis Grizzlies.
00:16:03
Speaker
Yeah. I feel like we're missing a key. We're skipping over a key piece piece here. And that was that the Cavs signed Sam Merrill to a four year, $38 million dollar deal.
00:16:14
Speaker
So 9 million per year. So they traded for Lonzo ball. They drafted Tyrese Proctor, another guard. They signed Sam Merrill that, yeah.
00:16:27
Speaker
Like how are we bringing Ty Jerome back now? Um, I don't know. I don't know what to think about it. You know, Ty Jerome made a social media post that that made it, I don't know, did he directly state that that we the Cavs never offered him anything? I think that it kind of did, but there's rumors that we offered him anything.
00:16:48
Speaker
Something, you know, I've heard, I've read 10 million. I don't know how true any of this rumors are, but that we offered him 10 million, but he didn't take it.
00:16:59
Speaker
You know, he took 9 million with the Memphis Grizzlies. You know, I could see that he'll get plenty more playing time with the Grizzlies than he would with us more than likely.
00:17:11
Speaker
But either way, it's disappointing. you know We could add Ty Jerome for $9 million. you know I'd take Ty Jerome over Sam Merrill all day. Tyrese Proctor is a rookie. It's not like he's going to fill in that spot. Lonzo Ball, who knows if he's going to be healthy.
00:17:26
Speaker
feel like we're leaving a huge hole here behind Garland. It's very risky. It's very risky. very And Ty Jerome... like I'll say this. There's people that are mad at Ty Jerome and saying good riddance because he had a bad playoff series.
00:17:43
Speaker
He had a bad five game stretch, six game stretch, whatever, whatever it was. Well, guess what? So did a bunch of the Cavaliers in that series. It wasn't just Ty. But yeah, it was it was the worst possible time for him to to to basically not show up.
00:17:58
Speaker
But if we're willing to give this Cavs team this core four, year four of the core four and trying to get over the hump, I'm going to give Ty Jerome more than a five-game bad series.
00:18:11
Speaker
I would have brought him back all day for that and more. Yeah. Even though i know the Cavs couldn't really afford much more. But, I mean, give me Ty Jerome over Proctor Ball-Ostow.
00:18:23
Speaker
a curl and Sam Merrill altogether. Like, yeah, give me him and some vet mentoring minimum guys. And I would have been more confident because you just said it Alex, like Garland may not even be starting at the beginning of the season. Right. Yeah.
00:18:39
Speaker
um Maybe it's Lonzo Ball. I don't know. Right. um But you don't want Proctor to have to be in a situation where very early in the season he needs to all of a sudden, you know, try to contribute.
00:18:51
Speaker
And yeah, there's Craig Porter Jr. out there it was a nice story, you know, two years back when he filled in for Garland. But, you know, and maybe this is his season, his opportunity to try to take a jump if Ball isn't healthy or so on and so forth.
00:19:05
Speaker
Um, and then just call it the fact that Garland is undersized. I wouldn't call him injury prone, but it's like, man, out of all those guys, Ty Jerome felt like he was the most solid. He was the most consistent.
00:19:20
Speaker
I don't even know when Garland's going to play and I have no confidence in the other three players we have behind him. So it's going to be an interesting season at that point guard position, I think.
00:19:31
Speaker
Yeah, man. I'm going to miss Ty Jerome a lot. he was He was electric. Yeah, he could be streaky, but youre yeah you know he was hot more often than not. like He was always the instigator of the Cavalanch.
00:19:47
Speaker
When Ty Jerome would go off, you know the game was over. He was hitting three after three after three. Once we got Hunter on the team, Ty Jerome and Hunter played so well off each other.
00:19:58
Speaker
You could put them just the two of them together with any other three guys on the court in the second unit and they would still dominate the other teams, ah you know, second unit.
00:20:09
Speaker
It was the difference maker. Yeah. Right. He was part of who are the yeah he was the part of the reason why our, our bench was so much better than just about everybody else's bench in the league.
00:20:20
Speaker
And, you know, what's crazy is you know, 10, 15, 20 years from now, you know, we're going look back like, oh yeah, remember that one year we had Ty Jerome and he just went absolutely nuts. How did we, whatever happened, we lost him the next year for $9 million?
00:20:41
Speaker
For Sam Merrill and Lonzo Ball? like It's going to be, that one's going to hurt. And i said this to you, I think at work, through through a kind like a team's conversation or whatever, but his his time here feels very rubio Ricky Rubio-esque.
00:20:58
Speaker
In the sense that Rubio was here for ah couple years, but he had the injury. And then when he came back, it wasn't really the same. It was only really that one year that he was like electric and kind of just took everybody by storm and by surprise, much like Ty did.
00:21:15
Speaker
And it's just crazy how both of those scenarios were kind of like a one and done. It's just unfortunate because Rubio was great with with running Kevin Love and that bench group, just like Ty was great with running with Hunter and whoever else you throw out there. It's just, man, I don't know how in either of one of those two situations we we didn't capitalize on that better. I'm I can't believe it. I still can't believe it. I'm so disappointed.
00:21:39
Speaker
he He was definitely my favorite player, you know, throughout the season. don't know how many games where he went off and I was just shouting Tysanity. Oh, yeah. it was It was wild. It was awesome. It was like, where did this guy come from? He came out of nowhere and he's playing like Michael Jordan out there. It's crazy. Yeah, he's having 30-point games and just jacking it up from 35 feet out and just...
00:21:59
Speaker
Man, he was fun. And the craziest part of it all is that the market for him was much lower than what I was anticipating. If we would have lost Ty Jerome via money that we couldn't actually afford,
00:22:16
Speaker
if he would have got 18 million a year for four years, okay, whatever that adds up to, 70 million or whatever that is, okay, it would have hurt, but I can i can live with it a little bit better than we lost him for 9 million. Right.
00:22:30
Speaker
Yeah, exactly. You know what i mean? I feel the same way. Sam Merrill, nice story, last draft pick and in and that draft that he came out, and he's found his his niche and his his his little role here in Cleveland and love me a sharpshooter.
00:22:43
Speaker
But man, it's just again, give me give me Jerome over all the transactions. Yeah, have yeah I mean, and I don't want to to gloss over the Sam Merrill signing because it's a good signing.
00:22:54
Speaker
Merrill can knock down the three. He's also streaky, though. yeah He's either hot or not. And, you know, if I had to choose a three point shooter between Merrill and Jerome, I would choose Jerome because I think his game has more facets to it than Merrill's does. Merrill is definitely just a three point specialist.
00:23:12
Speaker
Jerome had playmaking three point. He had a good amount of playmaking ability. He was a great passer. Like he he did a lot of little things and got other player involved, other players involved. And, you know, I feel like Merrill's more of a one trick pony.
00:23:29
Speaker
I still think he's great. I'm glad he's on the team. But, yeah you know, if I had to choose one or the other, I can't believe that we let Jerome walk away. Right. Yeah, and Jerome, another reason why it reminds me of Rubio too is both of them were capable of playing beneath the free throw line, and both of them played patiently, kind of at a different pace.
00:23:49
Speaker
Like Ty Jerome like kind of just went a step slower than everybody else, which allowed him to take that extra second or so to wait for his defender to jump into the air and you know, make a little floater and be laughing and pointing at the bench the way that Rubio used to do the same stuff. Go back and watch tape.
00:24:07
Speaker
He's backing down his defender. He does a turnaround spin move off the glass. Nobody can stop. i It was very similar. Both could run an offense. Yeah. Ty Jerome, I thought was a better shooter, but man, it's just, yeah you know, they, they remind me of each other a lot and yeah, just it just, it just sucks that, um you know, Jerome's gone. i will say at least he went out West, you know, to a team that I really can care. you know, he's not over in New York or, or something like that or Boston or, you know, we're not going to see him four times a year or anything like that, but
00:24:39
Speaker
Yeah, it's still. Yeah, Ty Jerome had that Tony Parker floater down the middle. Yeah. The teardrop. Yeah, I love that. yeah Yeah, like you said, he had the the Euro step that was just a step slower, a step hitchy that caught people off guard.
00:24:56
Speaker
Yeah, I'm going to miss him. I love reminiscing about Jerome already. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm going to go. I'm going to before I go to bed. need a Jerome jersey. actually went to the cab shop to see if I could get a Jerome jersey super cheap.
00:25:08
Speaker
Like maybe they're like super discounted on sale. They were sold out like the Jerome jerseys were sold out. That's funny because at least in one color way. That's funny because I recently went on eBay just to see what Ty Jerome Cleveland Cavalier cards were out there that I could snatch up for cheap. And yeah, so like we're both going to like after we're done recording this episode, it'll be like, you know, 1130 at night or whatever. And we're both going to go look up Ty Jerome highlights on YouTube and cry ourselves to sleep. Yeah.
00:25:39
Speaker
ah But yeah, so, and yeah, you brought up the Sam Merrill thing. That was another transaction that happened the same day the ball trade went down. And I was like, holy crap, you Cavs, Cavs making moves here.
00:25:50
Speaker
And I was happy for Sam too. um Again, good story. um But, Yeah, it is what it is, unfortunately. um Another move that the Cavs made just just was it today or yesterday? Very, very recent um is bringing back a former Cleveland Cavalier.
Larry Nance Jr. Returns and Injury-Prone Concerns
00:26:12
Speaker
Larry Nats Jr. is coming back for another stint with the wine and gold signs for the vet minimum. He is coming off of an injury as well. I can't pronounce it, so I'm not even going attempt Alex, but um he only played 24 games last season. I've been in the league 10 years now, kind of bounced around a couple different teams, right? The Lakers, the Pelicans last year was with Atlanta.
00:26:37
Speaker
Did four years with the Cavs prior. It might not have the same hops he did his first stint around. But when you learned of the Cavs making that signing, kind of what was your initial thoughts? You think it's a good signing or you you kind of just, meh.
00:26:55
Speaker
Yeah, you know, kind of a kind of kind of just indifferent. Like, I don't really know what he's going to add to the team. I think he'll play nicely alongside, you know, other bigs Mobley and Allen.
00:27:07
Speaker
Does this, ah you know, kind of mark the sign of not bringing back Tristan Thompson? That's what i was thinking. Probably, but probably. And and can Nance give you more production than what Thompson was able to give you?
00:27:25
Speaker
Meaning Thompson was never able to play, you know, rotational minutes unless there was an injury or, you know, there's some garbage games going on or something. Can you know, it's one of the gaps, I think, on this team still. There's not much behind Mobley and Allen.
00:27:41
Speaker
Right. Um, you know, you got Dean Wade, you got Hunter, I guess, but both of them I would say aren't true bigs. Right. Um, Tristan was undersized. Larry Nance is undersized as well, but can Larry Nance give you more than what Tristan did? Meaning can he play 10, 12 minutes a game and, and give Jared Allen a breather, you know, on a, on a consistent basis. Can he go grab five rebounds, four or five rebounds and get some garbage points? Like if he could do those things, I think it's a great signing.
00:28:11
Speaker
I think it's a great signing for vet minimum. And it's a good story, you know, you know with with him being Larry Nance Sr.'s son and, you know, a second stint and all that. um It's better than some veteran that's, you know, 37, 38 years old.
00:28:28
Speaker
What about 43 years old? 43 years, yeah, Kendrick Perkins style or something like Chris Anderson. If we could start going down all those, you know, signings that we've made in the past. um At least Nance has got a couple more years left on him.
00:28:42
Speaker
ah Granted, he's he's able to come back from that injury. Yeah, again, that I mean, that's the thing again, right? Like taking taking a flyer on a on a player coming off of a big injury, a player that has battled injuries pretty frequently recently. it's just like Lonzo Ball.
00:29:00
Speaker
Like that's what's plagued us these past three, four seasons when we make our postseason runs or players getting hurt. And now we're putting all of our eggs in the basket of players that are hurt all the time. It's like, yeah, I mean, but at at the same time though, this is the reality when you're a good basketball team and have the salary that you do, you know, you're, you're stuck with having to take risks like this because you don't have 20 million to go out there and sign somebody that high, that has a higher value.
00:29:32
Speaker
So, and I wouldn't say it's putting all their eggs in that basket. Cause again, like, ah me like Tristan and and Nance, that that' that's a wash in my opinion, where the big risk is, is is ball and and Jerome obviously, because that production value most likely will not be the,
00:29:54
Speaker
the chances of ball coming back and having a tie drum ask season after a major injury yet again are are pretty slim to none, I would say. Um, so on that front, yeah, they, they're putting some eggs in a basket that maybe really doesn't make sense, but Larry Nance doesn't pose too much of a threat. If that doesn't work out too great, it's, it's that minimum, you know, you know, he probably can still give you more than Tristan knows what I'm thinking.
00:30:21
Speaker
Yeah, i'm not going argue that. You know, i don't know if we're talking regular T-top Tristan or Tristan on PEDs because he was pretty good player then. Yeah, yeah.
00:30:32
Speaker
But yeah, yeah, I agree with your assessment there. Like, yeah. I'm glad he's back. It's all good. So the last transaction the Cavs have made up until this point is with Luke Travers.
00:30:45
Speaker
They're bringing him back on another two-way contract. um Travers was was a nice story a couple years ago in summer league. um you know Kind of came out of nowhere, had a great summer league, and you know earned earned up to this point. you know um he's He's been in some NBA games. He played, I think, 12 games last year for the Cavs.
00:31:06
Speaker
um still hasn't earned that rotational slash important role on the team, but I don't have any problems with with him bringing him back for another two-way contract. um I don't know. i I don't hear you really talk too much about him. Are you Travers fan are you kind of just whatever until he can actually contribute? Yeah.
00:31:24
Speaker
I was a couple of seasons ago when he had that really standout summer league. ah Yeah. You know, that very first summer league. He was in. he Yeah. He was great. He's out there looking like Larry Bird.
00:31:34
Speaker
I'm putting him. I'm putting him in there with the Rubio season and the Ty Jerome season. We were just remember that. But when we, when we 20 years from now, actually like, man, I can't believe Ty Jerome. Remember that one year that Luke Travers took the world by storm in four summer league games.
00:31:51
Speaker
All right. All right. Maybe. i don't know. We're building memories here, Alex. We're building memories. All right. We have we need something to hold on to. All right. If it grows, grows the mullet and the stash back out like I'm all in.
00:32:03
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. And speaking of Summer League, we were just looking into that and Summer League is right around the corner um starting July 10th to the 20th down or over in Las Vegas.
Summer League Excitement
00:32:16
Speaker
Rosters haven't been announced quite yet. We were joking that it'll be announced tomorrow, the day that we release this episode, but high probability that you'll be able to see Luke Travers yet again in in Summer League along with with Proctor and Craig Porter Jr. and you know The Cavs will have a pretty decent squad. um and It'll be fun to watch watch those guys and and get to see Travers running around out there as well.
00:32:40
Speaker
Maybe he'll be locking down Cooper Flagg in Summer League. You never know. Yeah, maybe. I hope so. That'd be awesome. Yeah, but I mean, I don't have any expectations. Two-way contract.
00:32:51
Speaker
He'll probably play a lot on the ah you know in the g League. Yep. Yep. Exactly. Exactly. It is what it is. So it feels like the Cavs have actually, when again, when you look back at it's like, wow, they've made four or five kind of kind of moves here.
00:33:05
Speaker
um i feel like their offseason might be 90% done already. ah But with that being said, Alex, you know, is there anything else you want to see the Cavs address? Yeah.
00:33:18
Speaker
Position wise, um do you think that the Cavs should still try to make a splash trade? Or is it like, okay, I don't know what with their roster situation is, if they have you know another roster spot open or not yet.
00:33:32
Speaker
um But if they could do one more thing, what do you think it is? Is it just get another get another guy at the end of the bench and call call it a day? Should they try to go for some some home run or Hail Mary and try to shake things up?
00:33:46
Speaker
so don' else I don't really know who's left out there that we could go after. That can contribute. Yeah. Like, yeah either i don't I don't even know who's available. and And with us being in the cap situation we're in, like, what is the reality that we could actually get a contributor?
00:34:06
Speaker
I think the team that we have is the team, you know, right now after these transactions is the team we're going into the season with. Most likely, most likely. And I think that's OK.
00:34:18
Speaker
I think it's OK. There'll be tons of Cavs fans that aren't happy about that. Right. That are ready to shake it up, to not give the core for another year. and we talked about this in the last episode. Like, I wouldn't be disappointed if if they shook things up there.
00:34:34
Speaker
But I also know that, hey, we dominated last year.
Cavs' Future Prospects
00:34:38
Speaker
We just unfortunately had a bad second round. And we're most likely going to be a very solid team again this year, bearing, you know, the team is relatively healthy at the right times of the year.
00:34:50
Speaker
So there's still gonna be a fun team to watch. And with these extra additions like ball, like Larry Nance coming back, like, pra you know, Craig Porter Jr. may be giving opportunity. Like, it'll be interesting to see, you know, Sam Merrill maybe now gets a bigger, like,
00:35:03
Speaker
It'll be interesting to see what other players kind of potentially take advantage of that. And and hopefully the Cavs can take you know advantage of what they learned from last year, Alex, and finally apply it this year.
00:35:19
Speaker
Let me ask you this. Do you feel like the changes to the roster that we've made so far, you feel like this team next season will be better than last season's team?
00:35:32
Speaker
No. Do you feel like the roster has improved? No.
00:35:40
Speaker
I mean, i Alex has taken off. He's taking off the microphone. He's turning off the microphone. It is now a solo show. um I mean, again, because here's why.
00:35:54
Speaker
Yeah, there's things I don't like about Okoro. There's things that fans don't like about Okoro. But again, he is I could put him out there. He's a body. He's young. he could do he can go He's not going to win, but i can go throw him on Jalen Brown. i can i can He's going to hit a corner three every once in a while and make a nice play at the rep.
00:36:09
Speaker
Ty Jerome, we know everything that he was able to do this year. And both of those players would have came back next season and most likely would have continued to contribute. I don't know what Lonzo Ball can do yet.
00:36:22
Speaker
I don't know what Larry Lance Jr. can do yet. I don't want to have to rely on Tyrese Proctor. and And Sam Merrill, I don't think he's he's he's approaching 30. He's a sharpshooter. He's a specialist. I don't think his game's going to blossom any more than what it is.
00:36:38
Speaker
So I would argue we've actually taken a little bit of a step back because of all those unknowns versus we would have known what we would have had with the Currow and Jerome if we didn't make you know the moves that we made.
00:36:52
Speaker
yeah How do you feel? I mean, I agree. I, to put it simply, we lost a Coro. We lost Ty Jerome. We gained Lonzo ball. We gained Larry Nance jr. Sam Merrill. We had last season. He's a known quantity.
00:37:06
Speaker
Yeah. Tyrese Proctor is a rookie. He's not going to play.
LeBron James Rumors
00:37:11
Speaker
I'm just going to throw it out. He'll get garbage minutes occasionally. Yeah. Um, yeah.
00:37:18
Speaker
I feel like we declined a little like, uh, I don't know, man. ah
00:37:27
Speaker
It'll be interesting. I'm bummed. I'm bummed. The off season isn't over yet, Alex. It's not over. It's not over. And it's not like we're going to, there are some rumors. Are we going to talk about the elephant in the room? We are. All right.
00:37:39
Speaker
We are because that's, what's going to save us, Alex. That's what's going to save this whole thing. Are we talking about this? Wait a minute. i don't know if we're talking about the same thing now. Well, hell you're wearing the guy's damn Jersey. shot Go ahead and show it. Let's,
00:37:52
Speaker
Alex drinking Kool-Aid drinking the Kool-Aid. i feel like until LeBron James retires, it's going to be the same storyline every off season.
00:38:05
Speaker
And this year is no different. Alex, people, the media just grasp any straw they can. So LeBron has opted in. to his 52.9 million player option, which I don't know if it's true or not, but somebody said has never been done before. He always does like a one in one. And this is like the last year of his contract. It's, you know, he's technically a free agent after like, so, so the media is going wild writers all around, you know, the NBA world are trying to write up any trade scenario. He's going to Dallas. He's going to play with Kyrie and Cooper flag. He's, he's going to go, he's going to get trade. He's going to to demand a trade to golden state. And,
00:38:45
Speaker
you know, run with Steph Curry. And then of course there's going to always forever be the return home to end his career in Cleveland. And, uh, there's just every day there's, there's been stuff on it since he opted in Alex.
00:38:59
Speaker
Um, I call it hogwash, but what do you think? Uh, where there's smoke, there's fire or, or, or mirrors where there's smoke. There's mirrors too, Alex. yeah That's true. That's true. You know, you know, uh,
00:39:14
Speaker
yeah there's a, there's a recording. All right. Like, no, I'm not. No, there is like, you can look it up. Right. So there's a recording of LeBron at dinner and he's talking to his buddy and he's saying something about,
00:39:29
Speaker
ah what is it? I'm trying to remember. He said something about so Savannah. One more. yeah Savannah wants him to retire. and know One more year. Yeah. He also supposedly was wearing a welcome home hat.
00:39:43
Speaker
you know Well, that's that's that's a different... That wasn't this video. That's like photoshopped. yeah Yeah, that's a different... You just got to remember, there's AI now, Alex. So many things are just... But now reports are coming out that LeBron wants out of LA and l LA wants LeBron out...
00:40:01
Speaker
i'm I'm sure they want to cash in They definitely don't want to lose LeBron for nothing. um But here's a couple of things that I think potentially go against that. um Unless it were to happen like now, if we get to the start of the season, sure, there'ss there's all all the up until the trade deadline, until that trade deadline has gone and passed.
00:40:22
Speaker
You know, everything will go away until the offseason next year when, oh, he's going to do it one more year. He's going to go to Cleveland or he's going to go sign wherever. Right. But if Luka Donich is actually in shape like these Instagram videos show and he's back to his form again, um they just signed DeAndre Ayton today.
00:40:42
Speaker
So now they have a starting center and Damian Lillard is available now and is linked to several teams being the Lakers. One of them, yes, coming off of a season ending injury.
00:40:54
Speaker
But what if he ended up out there? You know what i mean? And what if all of a sudden the Lakers aren't half bad to start that season? And I just wonder, is is the run really going to demand out of there in that scenario?
00:41:07
Speaker
Like if he's going to do it, it has to be now, in my opinion, or or if the Lakers are going to do it, it has to be now. um I don't know. it's it's It's interesting, but I also don't feel like it's it's reality. I mean, are you going to move Garland, Allen, Max Drews, and whatever picks we don't have for the rest of this decade to go to go get LeBron for one year?
00:41:32
Speaker
but You wouldn't have to if they buy him out, which would be the the scenario likely scenario. I don't know, man. They're going to cash him in. They're going want talent back. They're going to want to quarterback.
00:41:46
Speaker
DeAndre Aiden just got bought out. ke andre Kevin Durant got bought out. they're They're buying out $50 million dollars contracts left and right in the NBA right now.
00:41:59
Speaker
I don't know if you waive LeBron James, though. i don't know if that's how want go. You are if he says, I want to leave. And if he says what team he wants to go to. when in the When in the history of LeBron James has he gone to a team that he doesn't want to go to?
00:42:11
Speaker
He does have a no trade clause, which he would have to waive. So he would have all the control in any kind of deal that went down, basically. LeBron would say, buy me out. I want to go somewhere else. That's all he's got to do.
00:42:23
Speaker
yeah unlikely. Yeah. Yeah. It's unlikely. Very unlikely. could do it absolutely We've already spent too much time on it. we'll We'll do it again in the off season, Alex, and we'll do it again, you know, next year, you know, for his farewell, you know, again, until he retires, it'll, it'll always come up.
00:42:39
Speaker
Does LeBron make the Cavs better? Depends on what, again, depends on what you lost to get them. And although I would love to get them in your scenario,
00:42:51
Speaker
I mean, now now now there's it's it's smoke and mirrors. It's not smoke and fire. That would be the ideal way to get him, right? if We'll play this clip back when when LeBron's taking his farewell tour with the Cavs.
00:43:04
Speaker
Yeah.
00:43:07
Speaker
I don't know. i and There's still that argument, and maybe DeAndre Hunter fills that. It'll be interesting to see if Hunter still comes off the bench next year, but the argument can be said, Alex. We have not had a true starting small forward, a reliable small forward since since LeBron James.
00:43:25
Speaker
We've always just been kind of plugging in random players that we're never really going to have a chance of remotely securing that. I think Hunter can, though.
00:43:36
Speaker
Yeah. Well, somebody had to play devil's advocate advocate. I know. I know he's in L.A. He lives in l L.A. He's got his mansion in L.A. He's playing with his son, which was his dream. Yeah. So very unlikely.
00:43:48
Speaker
Very unlikely. So let's get into some other big things that kind of happen around the NBA.
Trade Movements and League Changes
00:43:52
Speaker
You kind of said it earlier in the episode and was really the biggest ball to drop. I would argue so far.
00:43:59
Speaker
um And everybody knew it was coming. And this is one that I thought was going to drag out longer and what was going to kind of keep the rest of the and NBA idle. But then it happened, Alex, on game seven day, game seven day of all days for the Kevin Durant trade to go down. And I didn't even realize that trades can happen while the playoffs were going on.
00:44:21
Speaker
Indiana Pacers made a trade while they were in the finals with with the draft pick. like I don't remember any other years where trades were going down during the finals, but Kevin Durant goes out to Houston.
00:44:34
Speaker
But what I want to get your take on real quick or your opinion on what's interesting is Phoenix had a conversation with Cleveland about Darius Garland. And when that first came out, it came out as like, oh, the Cavs offered Darius Garland for Kevin Durant. Like they were a wild card in that.
00:44:51
Speaker
whole situation. And then, you know, a couple days later, it comes out that Phoenix actually called the Cavs with interest in Darius Garland. And when the Cavs came back and said, well, it would not only take Kevin Durant, but also like draft picks or,
00:45:09
Speaker
or whatever, I think it was when Horst said, you know, Phoenix didn't like immediately because say like, you know, piss off and hang up the phone. So it was interesting to me to learn that Phoenix had the interest in in Garland, seemed to be entertaining Kevin, like a Kevin Durant-esque type player for Garland, didn't hang up when the Cavs asked for even more, and that the Cavs were even in that, you know, conversation without us initiating it.
00:45:38
Speaker
What was your thoughts when all that kind of came out? Like to me, that was wild. It was it was wild that that happened. It's definitely wild. And I would say, no, no, I don't want Kevin Durant. no I especially don't want Kevin Durant and give up our only point guard on the team.
00:45:55
Speaker
right Well, the only the only scenario because I was like that to the only scenario where I could have bought into a little bit more. Is if somehow that allowed us to bring back Ty Jerome.
00:46:07
Speaker
right Now, Ty Jerome isn't a ah tygerome is capable of being a starting point guard, but he's going to be not in the top tier. He's not going to win against John Morant on a nightly basis.
00:46:18
Speaker
He's not going to win against Steph Curry. He's not going to outdo these guys. He was runner-up for six-man. But he could be serviceable. Yeah. Right. And it's like, you know, maybe in a scenario like that same thing with like Giannis, right? Like if they would have somehow got Giannis and it required moving Garland, but we got to keep someone like a Ty Jerome you got Giannis Mitchell, you know, Evan Mobley and Ty Jerome out there running around and then plug somebody in. It's like I could have bought into that.
00:46:45
Speaker
Giannis, I would have been interested in. Yeah. Yeah. You know what i mean? um But yeah, that was just that was just wild to me. Of course, he ended up with the Houston Rockets, who were already a ah pretty good team, and they've been doing some retooling here in their offseason.
00:46:59
Speaker
I think they're going to have interesting season. they're they're going to have an interesting season And most likely might run right back into the Thunder again next year in the playoffs. But that was definitely the biggest shoe to drop in the offseason so far.
00:47:15
Speaker
um What other ones jump out to you, though, that kind of you took notice of, of, you know, either trade or free agency signing? you know anything like that that was really it.
00:47:25
Speaker
Come on, man. I just don't think you're paying attention to the miles Turner, I guess. I guess yeah that was huge, man. That was a big one. That required the Bucks, you know, waving Damian Lillard, stretching out his contract.
00:47:38
Speaker
Damian Lillard is going to get paid 22 million, 22 and a half million. I think it is for the next five years, Alex, to not play for the Milwaukee Bucks. Yeah. Think about that. Yeah. And here you are worried about LeBron's 50.
00:47:51
Speaker
That's way more. Or Ty Jerome's nine. Yeah. Ty Jerome only nine million dollars. Nine million. What? How do you not pay nine million for that production? could have started like GoFundMe or something for that. Jesus Christ. Yeah. What the hell?
00:48:07
Speaker
But yeah, Damian Lillard, you know, leaving and, and, and, and how gut wrenching is that for the Pacers? Yeah. right You lose Halliburton, probably a lost season for him next year.
00:48:19
Speaker
You lost Miles Turner. Played 10 years there for the Pacers, by the way. And now you don't have a center. And now it's like now it's starting to feel like, man, was that finals run a one and done?
00:48:31
Speaker
Because that window is... it's, it's, it's, it's going interesting to see what Indiana does here but by, by trade deadline of next, you know, the start of next season here. Cause um they're not going to be as good as what they were last year. year i was I was going to say, certainly their roster didn't give it any better.
00:48:47
Speaker
No, no. Another one that jumped out to me, not on the kind of the same level, but I was like secretly hoping like, oh shoot. You know, he got waved. I would love to see somehow the calves be able to gobble him up.
00:49:01
Speaker
Jordan Clarkson. Utah waved him and he unfortunately ended up with the New York Knicks. So he's out in New York now with another former cabinet Cavalier person.
00:49:17
Speaker
Mike Brown. Mike f Brown is now brown the head coach of the New York Knicks. And that just might be our saving grace right there, Alex. Because right now, luck i it's probably the Knicks and the Cavs, the top two teams as of today.
00:49:32
Speaker
Granted, the offseason isn't, but I would say the Knicks are up there. you know with the Boston's definitely a step back. Indiana's a step back. Detroit, you know they're not going to take that leap yet. think there's other teams. you know Milwaukee might be okay. you know Atlanta might start to rise up the ranks with getting Porzingis, which we didn't talk about that yet.
00:49:51
Speaker
But ah Mike Brown out to the Knicks, man, is just kind of comical. Yeah, Mr. Potato Head. Yeah. See him standing on the sidelines spitting into a cup all game.
00:50:04
Speaker
Oh, boy. I don't know. I don't know. i I'm glad he's in New York. Yeah, exactly. I'm glad he's in New York as well. Granted, he's not the same guy he was. I wonder how many teams are paying him right now. He always seems like he's got like, he's being paid by two other teams and ye and now he's with another team and he'll be fired from that team. He'll be collecting checks from three different teams while doing nothing.
00:50:27
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. It's crazy. I do think Atlanta will be an interesting team to watch. um They got Porzingis in a trade that landed Niang back in Boston.
00:50:42
Speaker
That's a ah great recoup for Boston fans to be excited about. Well, the Cavs
Cavs' Draft Strategy and Future Talents
00:50:48
Speaker
drafted a Niang. We kind of skipped over it, but pick number two from Senegal.
00:50:52
Speaker
yeah I don't know if I can pronounce his name, but I'm going to give it a shot. Say Lou Niang. Pick number 58, six foot eight wing. Draft and stash is what, what you're saying, what we're hearing.
00:51:06
Speaker
It'll interesting to see if he plays in the summer league though, at least he, maybe he plays in the summer league and then he gets sent overseas. Probably. I don't know if he'll play, you know, for the charge or anything like that, but, um, summer league is always interesting. It's just, just, man, you're just at a point where you just want to see some basketball again. You don't care who it is. So that'll be interesting.
00:51:25
Speaker
Um, But yeah, so I mean, you know, there's other moves that have happened. um um We're probably forgetting a whole bunch. um But what I kind of am glad to see so far, Alex, is I don't feel like anybody in the East has gotten like significantly better to where like I'm not scared of Miles Turner joining the Bucs.
00:51:46
Speaker
Does he make them better? Yeah, because Damian Lillard wasn't playing. They haven't had a real great center for a little while, and him and Giannis will be quite the pair to deal with, with their with their height and all. Sure, but i'm not I'm not worried about them.
00:52:00
Speaker
Atlanta, I think, is going to have a run like Detroit did this year where they start to they could be a top four or five seed potentially. I'm not worried about them. You know i mean? Like I'm not worried about anybody right now so far.
00:52:13
Speaker
I'm glad Kevin Durant didn't come out East. I don't want Damian Lillard to go sign, you know, with, I don't know, Orlando or something like that. Like go out West, tie Jerome, go out West. You know mean?
00:52:24
Speaker
Push everybody out that way. So, um, but there's still a lot of time left in the off season, Alex, and and and we'll be keeping our eyes on things. And especially, yeah know, we'll be curious to see if the Cavs do end up doing anything else.
00:52:37
Speaker
Yeah.
00:52:39
Speaker
So, Alex, we've we've rambled about a lot of different things. Is there anything else you wanted to bring up? One last thing. Hear it. What do you got? No, no, I said let's hear it.
00:52:50
Speaker
Oh, okay. The WNBA officially announced that the Cleveland will be a site for an expansion team in the year 2028. Okay.
00:53:02
Speaker
Yeah, um we talked about that a little while back when it was kind of in a rumor state. And it is now official.
Cleveland's WNBA Expansion
00:53:11
Speaker
And Alex, I'm already seeing the what should they name their team?
00:53:17
Speaker
i think it's obvious. I think it is, too. But I saw some here. I'll give you some from what I remember. Yeah. You tell me which of these is the best.
00:53:30
Speaker
Cleveland Blizzards. Cleveland Cavalettes, Cleveland Kryptonite. There was one more that I forget. And then the Rockers, because it was five names total.
00:53:42
Speaker
Take out the Rockers. If you had to choose between the Cleveland Blizzards, the Cleveland Hip. I almost said Hippocryps.
00:53:52
Speaker
Kryptonite. And what was the other one I said? Cavalettes. I'll tell you one thing. I probably wouldn't go to a game, but which one would you pick? Uh, let's see. Cavalettes is just terrible.
00:54:06
Speaker
yeah The blizzards. I, I don't know. That's, that's like something i get at Dairy Queen. Um, my kids go, would that mean they would always offer blizzards at games? Because then I want to go.
00:54:17
Speaker
that Well, yeah, now I'm in. They could have a good tie in with Dairy Queen. That would be smart advertising. Could go for a cookie dough blizzard. Hell yeah, man. Um, what was it? Oh, Kryptonite.
00:54:29
Speaker
Kryptonite. Um, I, I kind of like it because of the tie to Superman and Superman, you know, just go with the iowa with just go with the rockers, man. it's like so It's like Seattle finally getting a team back and they go other there something else besides the song. Yeah.
00:54:44
Speaker
In the Rockers, you know, Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, Rocket Arena, yeah Rocket Mortgage, like the logo already in the name. Yep. And you still have a generation, like whatever, whoever, whatever fan base there was for the Cleveland Rockers when they were around back in the late ninety s and early 2000s.
00:55:07
Speaker
you know, there's, there's, you know, still a generation that is still going to be aware today, like alive and, and, and remember the rockers. Right.
00:55:19
Speaker
I'm sure there's some folks that that are up there in age and stuff like that. Like you and I were pretty, weren't young, but we weren't. I know the name, but I can't just say that I ever watched a game. Like, I don't know i don't remember what the logo was really.
00:55:31
Speaker
Oh, the logo was like a guitar and it's a great logo. It was really good. You'll have to go look it up, Alex. But I think i think the Rockers just makes the most sense.
00:55:42
Speaker
um And we'll see what will happen. 2028 is still, you know, kind of pretty far away as well. Right. And maybe maybe Caitlin Cart will be demanding trades by then. And that's what was going to say. I'm only interested if there's a expansion draft and we can get Caitlin Clark. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:56:01
Speaker
We trade our number one pick in the expansion draft for. Yeah, so. But yeah, that's that's a. No complaints there. And that was a three city announcement. Cleveland was one of them. The other two was Detroit and Philadelphia.
00:56:19
Speaker
Yeah, there you go. There you go. So if you're a WNBA fan, there you go. There you go. All right, Alex, this episode's been pretty long.
Conclusion and Listener Engagement
00:56:28
Speaker
Yeah. Let's go ahead wrap it up.
00:56:30
Speaker
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00:56:40
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00:56:53
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Peace out, Cavs fans.