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Culture, Science, and Revelation: Engaging with the Promise of Christ’s Return #ScriptureUnfiltered
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In this episode of Scripture Unfiltered, where Pastor Ridley Barron and Dan Sanchez delve into the intricate subject of Christ's Return. Today, we'll explore the complexity of eschatology, the dangers of false prophets, and the beauty of hope that stems from the anticipation of this pivotal event in the Christian faith. Join us as we navigate through scripture, intellectualism, and faith, unraveling the mysteries surrounding the second coming of Jesus.
Timestamps:
00:00 Discussion about heaven and God's kingdom plans.
06:15 Curiosity drives the quest for the right date.
08:26 Countless self-proclaimed messiahs, but obvious warning signs.
13:14 Imagining God's longing for peace and patience.
15:53 Christians should embrace intellectual complexity in faith.
18:59 Book "Reflections on the Existence of God" discussed.
21:36 Different beliefs about Christ's return have consequences.
26:04 Remaining in culture is important to impact.
29:23 Request for audience questions for future episodes.
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Transcript
Introduction to the Sermon Series
00:00:01
Speaker
Welcome back to another episode of Scripture Unfiltered, where Pastor Ridley and I are going to be doing a deep dive into this week's sermon, which Ridley just preached on Christ's return in the Do You Really Believe series.
00:00:16
Speaker
As soon as the topic came up this Sunday, and I was sitting down taking notes, I'm like, oh, man. I'm curious to know what you're going to preach on. This is a big topic. It's such a big topic. They don't teach this in Bible school. In fact, they rarely even teach it in mid-EMDIV programs, I found out. This is often a topic or a class you would take at the doctoral level
00:00:37
Speaker
Because it's there because there's so many opinions. There's so many different angles. Every viewpoint has sub viewpoints and sub viewpoints of a sub viewpoints kind of a thing, right? So this is a hotly debated topic. But it's a fun one talking about the end times, you know, the end of the age. But is a necessary topic. But I want you to really tell start kick this thing off with telling us like, why, why is this topic important? Like, what do we lose if we don't have this topic?
Urgency of Christ's Imminent Return
00:01:06
Speaker
I think one of the things to me, the overarching thing is the big, big drive behind it is that this subject brings a sense of urgency to everything we do. The imminent return of Christ. I think that's why the gospel writers and others were inspired to use terminology like soon. And in those days, like it's coming in imminently because Christ always wanted us to believe that it could be happening at any moment because he wants us to live that way.
00:01:34
Speaker
So it kind of serves as a motivation, inspiration for us, not only to live righteous lives, but also to invite others to join that journey with us. So can't get too comfortable with the idea that it's going to be another 10 years or another 100 years or whatever. I know.
00:01:52
Speaker
Without this topic of thinking about what's gonna happen next, there would be something lacking, right? Like Christ came and did the thing, yet we all still see a lot of pain and hurt and injustice in the world. So it's like, okay, well.
00:02:10
Speaker
What's going on? It doesn't seem like it fixed anything. There's still a lot of bad things in the world, but this kind of gives you hope. Like, hey, the story isn't over yet. We're still waiting for the end of the book to play out here. At least the end of the book on this age or life, if you could call it that. Right. Right. Well, this topic, along with next week's topic, we're going to be diving in a little bit to heaven and explanation of heaven.
00:02:34
Speaker
The two of those together serve very nicely as a bow on the end of the story, to your point, that God's plan for humanity isn't done yet. It was obviously advanced, you know, long way down to the ball field by Jesus' arrival and his teaching, his life and his death and his resurrection. That propelled us into the last stages of the story. But the final, the final bow is yet to be put on it. And that day when Christ comes and things,
00:03:03
Speaker
unfold as we anticipate, then we'll get to see the end of evil, the end of darkness, the end of pain and suffering, and we'll get to see the establishment of God's kingdom here on this earth.
Second Coming in Christian Creeds
00:03:16
Speaker
Is the second coming on the Apostles' Creed? I'm looking at it now. I actually don't see it on the Apostles' Creed. Maybe it's in the... The Nicene Creed? The Nicene Creed. I remember it's one of those critical things.
00:03:30
Speaker
I was fixing to say, I don't remember it being in the Apostles' Creed, but I'm not sure that it's in the Mass. Might be the other one. But I feel like the Second Coming is one of those critical things that's a major part of... It's not essential for a salvation, but it becomes one of those key tenets of the Christian faith. Yeah. Well, sadly, I feel like sometimes you catch people
00:03:52
Speaker
Even some scholars almost apologizing for the fact that Jesus hasn't returned yet, almost like Jesus was wrong. He's not coming back. But I don't feel that danger at all. I absolutely understand the nature of God's timing, his plan for this planet, his plan for humanity. 2 Peter talks about how he desires that all would have an opportunity to come to know him. Those kinds of things are unfolding. There's so many pieces that are moving around in this.
00:04:22
Speaker
but I never felt a need to apologize for the fact that Jesus hasn't come back, just to understand that when his time is completed, when those things are done that he wants to see done, then he'll show up when it's all, when the table is set like it should be. I remember the first time I did a study in the end times and it was a ministry that had, it was like one of their major pillars of things they talked about. There's a prayer ministry, which I don't know, prayer intercessors kind of,
00:04:52
Speaker
probably gravitate towards the end times more than others.
Historical Belief in Imminent Return
00:04:55
Speaker
But their end times and song of songs, interestingly, were like their two major topics they talked about, which is kind of like coming back for the bride of Christ. It was kind of like one of those things, like the allegorical song of songs, not the other interpretation of it.
00:05:15
Speaker
What I remember being a young person getting excited about it. At first I was like hesitant. Something like, ah, nobody knows. Oh, maybe we can now. Hey, this is really interesting. Oh my gosh, he's coming back. It could be soon. You know, and then I eventually I got older and started hearing other viewpoints. And one thing that I've heard now is that pretty much every generation
00:05:37
Speaker
has thought Jesus was coming back in their time. Like that's just a common thing. If not every generation, then like at least every century, there was like a movement of like, he's coming back soon. We're seeing the signs. With that being said, like, how do we know? Can it be known or is God just like want us to every generation to be ready? Is that the point? So here's probably one of the most freedom offering things for believers. Know you will never know.
00:06:06
Speaker
There's just no way to know. Jesus doesn't know. The apostles didn't know. The prophets didn't know. John, who wrote the book of Revelation, he didn't know. And what amazes me is the number of people who spend hours and hours trying to nail it down and figure it out. And I want to go, you could save yourself a lot of heartache. You could go into a different hobby, something else to do because you're never going to be. And I don't know if this is even right or wrong.
00:06:33
Speaker
you know, heretical to say, but sometimes it makes me wonder if God has picked the date and several times moved it. Cause he said, somebody picked that date. I'm moving it to anyone. Cause I told you nobody would know this, you know? So I don't know. Uh, I don't know what compels this. I guess curiosity of human beings to try to drive that, that search for the right date and the right alignment of events and those kinds of things. And I get it. There's some, there's a little bit of me that kind of enjoys,
00:07:01
Speaker
discerning the times, you know, but we have to be clear, absolutely clear that it's not, it's not going to be picked, not going to be so. I think something that gets me is you read the New Testament of through the gospels and you read about the Pharisees and many of the people who looked at Jesus and they're like, how did they not get that? Like it's so clear that he's the one. Yeah.
00:07:27
Speaker
They had a lot of scripture about him and it partly what gives me some empathy for them is that they had a, they had a lot of scripture about his first and his second coming. They get mixed in together and then you're expecting him to come back in power. Like he came as a lamb, but he, they also expected a lion in there and he, you know, that's, that's the second part. But then, you know, they're going to be held accountable.
00:07:52
Speaker
to how they interpreted it. And I'm almost like wondering, I'm like, am I, I don't wanna be in that same place of not being able to recognize him on the second pass through. Because I think it says like, he will be a rock of offense. Like he will come and people will be offended by him. And I'm like, oh Lord, let that not be me. Now I think most Christians will be safe if you're doing what we say on the podcast all the time, you're spending a lot of time in the word, you get to know him, become familiar with them, familiar with other people who are following after him. So you can make sure you're chasing after
00:08:20
Speaker
him, actually him and not like some false version of him, right? You're probably not going to be offended by him, but still. Well, should we know? Since Jesus ascended from this earth, there have been hundreds and hundreds of self-proclaimed messiahs who have come to, you know, bring an end to this earth all the way from the cult leaders to even some mentally ill people who have convinced people that they are Jesus, you know, those kinds of things. And it's tragic. It's sad to see the number of people who follow them.
00:08:49
Speaker
But if you go back and look at their stories, and I haven't done an in-depth research at it, but the ones I have seen, there are obvious things that a consistent Christian would pick up on that would be just early warning indicators to go, ah, this guy's not the
Warnings Against False Teachings
00:09:05
Speaker
guy. This isn't possible. Primarily the fact that
00:09:10
Speaker
There was no trumpet sound. There was no, you know, no chaotic event in the universe. There were none of the big picture things. It's always just, hey, I'm here and I can do a miracle or two and that kind of stuff. And people begin to follow him. So I guess what I'm saying is if people do what we talk about here all the time, stay in the word. Then when Jesus shows up, not if, but when he shows up, you'll be able to go down a checklist and go,
00:09:35
Speaker
He did this. He has this. He does this. He's accomplished this. And I think it will be very, very easy to recognize that this is indeed the Son of God who's come to bring an end to all of the chaos.
00:09:51
Speaker
Sometimes I feel like it's easy to discern, but sometimes, like I just heard of a case this weekend where it wasn't. And a lot of people were influenced by a man who had a very evangelical statement of faith and did a lot of things and said a lot of good things, but in it kind of redefined some things and led people into weird past too. His name was Bill Gothard. He ran a major ministry called, I'm like pulling it up right now,
00:10:15
Speaker
The Institute for Basic Life Principles was part of a scandal and then kind of went after homeschool families. But because he was so successful in evangelizing a lot of his ideas, some false ideas around grace and especially around authority,
00:10:30
Speaker
Uh, raised a lot of families and their children and many of those children became pastors and like it subtly leaked into a lot of Christian American Christianity. And I'm like, it was hard to catch and only now are like people kind of catching up with like some of the. This isn't a full scale, like false Christ, but this is definitely like a leading of a stray where somebody was in a false mindset about what we're leading a family is in a Christian life.
00:10:57
Speaker
That was a hard one. Not every false teacher aligns himself to be the Christ or the Messiah. Many of them just align themselves with him to be powerful, to enjoy that flood of authority that's given to somebody who is recognized as being with Jesus. And Gothard's probably one of those guys. I think I remember his name. Was he back in the 90s? Is that
00:11:21
Speaker
Was that when he really started? He got to start in the 70s, but yeah, he was really influential and was really influential. He's the reason why the Duggers, 19 and counting, or whatever number of the kids they were on. The reason why they kept having kids was because of his idea that Christians should always keep having kids. You should never put a cap on that.
00:11:41
Speaker
Even beyond like basic, like, well, unless the mother might die, if she has another kid, you should probably stop having kids, you know? He would say like, well, you should let God decide that. I'm like, or use wisdom. There's no one in the Bible that says you have to have as many kids as possible, even though we should be fruitful and multiply. So like there is something there, but you know. Yeah, so some of those guys like that not only
00:12:09
Speaker
create problems because like you said, they create issues in their generation while they're alive and they're using their authority to lead people straight. But then they create these disciples that go out and spawn off new things. And yeah, I feel like the church is constantly battling Satan and then battling this deceptive stuff out there.
00:12:31
Speaker
So with this topic of the end times, sometimes it can become discouraging. Like there's so many viewpoints, like it's so even scholarly, the viewpoints you're like, Oh my gosh, it's all, but at the same time, it seems to be all over scripture. Like I've heard someone say that there's more scripture, more ink in the Bible about his second coming. There is it about his first coming.
00:12:53
Speaker
I have not heard that. I've seen the word documents that like actually do a side by side comparison. I haven't actually gone and vetted every single scripture to make sure there's no repeats in there, but it seemed pretty convincing. You're like, well, it does come up a lot in the Old Testament and the New Testament. And you have a whole book dedicated to it. Lots of Daniel, Ezekiel in there, lots of stuff. Yeah. Yeah. I might be true. I imagine just, just my perception of God based on what I know of scripture.
00:13:21
Speaker
I imagine that God's just as eager to bring this thing to an end as we are. He doesn't like what his children do to each other. He doesn't like what Satan does to his children. He doesn't like that this thing has turned out to be as big a mess as it has. I know that just because of his love for us, he would love for this to all be put to peace so that we could come and enjoy eternity with him.
00:13:45
Speaker
But there's that other part of his character, that long suffering part where he puts up with us, just hoping that somebody else will be able to join the celebration when it's done. So yeah, I imagine that probably all through the Bible, God, even as he was inspiring those guys to write it, he was saying, just hang on. It's coming, I promise. I'm excited about this. I want you to be excited about this, but don't give up. Don't lose your hope. It's coming, I promise.
00:14:13
Speaker
Is it worth studying then if it's so complicated and the scholars can't even agree on even some of the simplest things about it? Yeah. I do think it's worth studying just because it does spark hope in us, especially when you get beyond the differences of thought regarding the actual second coming and get into the idea of heaven and what heaven's going to be like and the eternal nature of that existence.
00:14:40
Speaker
Those kinds of things man they get you kind of excited get you kind of pumped. And there's there's parts of the second coming right where i go man i'm kind of anxious to see that i'm kind of anxious to see that unfold you know. But yeah i get where people can sometimes kind of shy away from books like revelation or the book of daniel with all the prophetic stuff and go.
00:15:01
Speaker
It's hard to understand. I don't know what really happens, so I'm just going to stick to the Gospels. I get that. That's kind of easy to do, but I would encourage people. It's worth digging into this and reading it, reading some good, reliable authors and letting them help guide you through some of this cryptic stuff that you read about in the End Times.
00:15:25
Speaker
I had a class on a book. It's like a leadership class, kind of like the ones we're going through at the Leadership Academy where a leader had taken a book and then essentially turned it into a class. It was on a fantastic book. I don't know if the book was fantastic, but his teaching on the book was fantastic. The book was called Fit Bodies, Fat Minds.
00:15:48
Speaker
And it was a book about Christian anti-intellectualism, which is a long loaded word. You break it down. Christian anti-intellectualism as essentially like Christians pushing away things that seemed intellectual or comp too complex. Like we want to simple, we just the simple gospel, like just keep things simple. What would Jesus do? You know, kind of simple, simplistic things.
00:16:16
Speaker
The lesson out of it was, no, we should worship God's not only with our whole hearts, but with our whole minds. We should be able to roll up our sleeves and get down to some topics that are hard to understand, if only to understand the greater nuances and complexities and wonderful things that God has that there are about God. There's so many wonderful little mysteries. I think about this when it comes to this topic that it's worth digging into, even though it's hard and maybe we need to hold these things a little bit more loosely because
00:16:44
Speaker
Who can know is some really smart people that are truly love love the Lord and been studying this a long time that disagree Yeah, but it's still worth it's still worth wrestling with
00:16:54
Speaker
I agree, and I'm glad you put that phrase in there to hold it loosely because the Bible's clear that we're not going to know down to the nth degree here the details of what's going to unfold in those days. I think he's been kind and gracious enough to give us a little foreshadowing of what's going to happen and let us
00:17:15
Speaker
pull back the curtain just a little bit. But people who just kind of go the complete opposite extreme and say, you know what, I'm not going to study this. I'm going to be an anti-intellectual, to borrow the term from the book. They're the ones that give Christianity a bad name and make Christians think that we need to run from things like science and history because they're scary. But I'm of the opinion, and you've probably heard this before from other people,
00:17:39
Speaker
It's not science that affirms the Bible, it's the Bible that affirms science. And the reason we have science, if people go back and read the real stories of guys like Isaac Newton and some of those guys, it was Christianity that started that stuff because they began to look at the creation that God had given us and how amazing it was and what order there was to this.
Aligning Science and Faith
00:18:01
Speaker
And they started looking at it going,
00:18:02
Speaker
Man, this is amazing. It's just further proof that Jesus is real, that God is real. So, I would say that in this particular instance, when you're talking about eschatology, that look at end times, man, the Bible encourages us to look at that stuff. It wouldn't have wasted the ink on it if He didn't want us to know about it.
00:18:24
Speaker
I've heard it said that a little bit of science pulls you away from God, but a lot of science will pull you back. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Right. And I found that phrase to be true. And there's kind of a movement of strong intellectual atheists finding their way back to God. I think someone just showed me a podcast series that I need to check out. I mean, people like Jordan Peterson and others in his caliber are kind of like, wait a second.
00:18:48
Speaker
There seems to be the thing that is pulling things together. Let me explore this a little bit. They're starting to find and go into the historical evidence for the faith. You're like, seems to be... I have referenced a book over the last several months since I read it for the first time. I think I've mentioned it even here on this podcast, but I gave it to somebody just a few weeks ago and she texted me back and said, this was an amazing book and helped me with my confidence in God. It's called The Reflections on the Existence of God.
00:19:18
Speaker
What he does is he recounts numerous tales of guys like Jordan Peterson, some of these guys who have been staunch, adamant atheists for years. And the closer they look at the universe, again, borrowing from your your statement just a minute ago, the closer they look, the more they get into science, the more they go. There's only one explanation for all of this. And it is that an intelligent creator put all this together for us. And if you go on into the
00:19:46
Speaker
Study of eschatology you go, and then there's only one logical way for all this to end. And that's that, that creator brings it to an end the way he just chooses to. That's what gives his hope knowing that there's all this stuff going on. I think it's important to remember that studying these things can kind of clear away the fog in our eyes regarding cult current cultural things that are going on. This is going to be a little controversial, but I'm just going to say it.
00:20:13
Speaker
I don't have any confidence at all that man creates climate change, none whatsoever, because that gives us the power to bring this planet to an end. The Bible says there's only one thing that brings this planet to an end, and that's God. I think there are things we can do, obviously, to be good stewards of the planet, to take care of the planet, those kinds of things. But if you dig into Revelation, you realize that there's only one person who holds this whole world into his hands, and he has full authority over every inch of it.
00:20:43
Speaker
So as human beings, we do the right thing. We try to take care of things, but don't buy into the lie that somehow because I drive a car to work that I'm going to bring the world in. So when I was listening to the Sunday sermon,
00:21:02
Speaker
I thought it was fun because obviously I was part of that past ministry that
Consequences of Eschatological Beliefs
00:21:05
Speaker
was really into it. I had a very specific viewpoint that I even found afterwards. And then after I was part of Christian higher ed, I found out that their viewpoint wasn't even, even in some of the main segments, it was an interesting combination of things. But now I'm starting to like unpack that and challenge some of those beliefs and go back through it. Would you say that some viewpoints have worse consequences or some viewpoints of the end times
00:21:31
Speaker
could are more risky, let's say, than others. Oh yeah, I think so. And I think because there are consequences associated with what you believe, it actually causes people to believe things despite what they see in the Bible. It's more like wishful thinking rather than actually reading and interpreting what the Bible says. But yeah, you know, your understanding of when Christ actually returns in relation to the millennium or in relation to the tribulation,
00:22:00
Speaker
For one group of people, it's going to mean great relief. They hold to the promise of Revelation 3.10 that he says, I'm going to save you from the hour of testing that's going to come on the whole world. And man, that's a good feeling. But if you choose to believe that Jesus comes after the tribulation, then obviously that means you better buckle up your belt because you're going to have a rough ride before Jesus comes to bring you that relief that you are anticipating.
00:22:23
Speaker
I know I have three friends that I go to that are much, they're like, one's pursuing his PhD in theology from Midwestern, the other one's a Regent University MDiv grad, and the other one, he's only got his bachelor's in theology, but he's one of the nerdiest theological people I know. So I often will invite them out.
00:22:48
Speaker
for coffee and just let them debate the three of them. They all have different viewpoints. One of these friends has the viewpoint that the world will essentially continue to get better and better until the whole world is just Christian, essentially. Right.
00:23:07
Speaker
It's an interesting viewpoint. I'm like on the way other side from that. I don't see how that happens. But some of these things have consequences because I've noticed his life, he's way more active on social media pushing for things versus some people are like, I'm just going to pull out from culture and even create not just a subculture, but essentially try to completely pull out a culture because of their view of the end times. I have some friends that like almost take
00:23:37
Speaker
I don't know. There's a book written called The Benedict Option, which was a monk back in the medieval ages that totally withdrew from society and had a monastery and then made more monks, but they were completely separate from anything going on. I have friends that just completely removed themselves from society. Almost, not Amish level, but
00:23:57
Speaker
somewhere between where we are and where the Amish are friends in that camp. Yet my friend who thinks Christianity will continue to grow and prosper over time with setbacks. He's out there pushing and championing and it's like he's like social media warriors, but he's that for Jesus. Of course, he's getting his PhD. So he'll put you if you run into him on Facebook, he will put you to shame really quickly. You know, maybe that's part of the reason why God chose to make his
00:24:28
Speaker
His little glimpses of the end times to make them so vague that we couldn't know all the answers because your friend's passion for pushing truth because of what he believes, it advances the kingdom of God.
Uncertainty and Diverse Actions
00:24:42
Speaker
Whereas our interpretation, my interpretation, which is a little different from yours, causes both of us to act in different ways, but those ways actually help push forward the kingdom of God in different areas than your friend does.
00:24:55
Speaker
So maybe part of that intentionality behind God's vagueness there is that he wanted to use that to, again, motivate us to do our part in advancing his kingdom.
00:25:10
Speaker
I had another friend that I asked this question once. I'm like, based on what's going on right now, and it seems like we're in a culture that's slipping towards a very dark place. If it continues in this direction and there isn't some revival, which I feel like would come on the back of some actual disaster, not our fake pandemic, but a real pandemic.
00:25:28
Speaker
Right like an actual world war or something big like revivals happens on the back of these things We're just the move of the Holy Spirit. God's like this is the time something something happens and bam awakening If not that then we're gonna be in a really hard place It should we be is it better to be the kind of Christians that push against it? the ones that make a subculture or the ones that pull out completely and her answer to that was
00:25:58
Speaker
Some groups will be called the one, some groups will be called to another, and God used all three of those options throughout history. I'm like, I think the hardest, the one I have the hardest problem with is the ones who pulled totally out of the culture because I don't, I mean, Jesus called us salt and light. And he said, if you're going to be salt, you have to be spilled out of the shaker, right? You have to come in contact with that, which you're trying to preserve or whatever. And so I think to completely pull out is, um,
00:26:24
Speaker
at best limiting to your ability to try to impact the culture. Yeah. So that one would concern me a little bit, but I can't argue her point. They have all been used at some point. I mean, even some of our Amish friends, you know, you watch the testimony of their lives and you hear people who are changed by that. And there's a reason why Benedict, I mean, other than eggs Benedict, you know, the name lives on.
00:26:51
Speaker
We all know this guy's name because, well, he pulled out and saved a remnant of Christians when the time when barbarians were taking over Rome and sacked everything and Christianity got preserved in this little part of the world. I mean, it was existing in multiple parts of the world, but in this part of the world, it became a major thing and benedicting months became a major influence later on when they eventually came out and then started evangelizing more widespread.
00:27:17
Speaker
I don't know. There's probably not exactly a wrong answer, but in this case, I do like that we push a little bit more. I'm a marketer, so I'm tending to be pushing and trumpeting and beyond social media and posting videos and all kinds of stuff. Hence, we're here recording this podcast, right? As a pastor of a growing church, I love having marketers around because of what you're doing.
Preparation for Christ's Return
00:27:39
Speaker
I think that the whole thing we kind of summed this up on Sunday this way that the responsible thing we have to do is to be very careful with our exegesis of scripture. Let's not read into it anything that's not there. Let's continue to live lives that are righteous, believing that Jesus could come literally at any moment and be very intentional about living out our faith in front of the world so that others might join in this journey with us so that they can receive the hope that we have.
00:28:10
Speaker
So to kind of summarize this episode, it's really important. We should know it. Even though every generation has expected it, it's not wrong for us to look around the corner and be like, hey, it could be happening soon. It could be happening really soon. It could be hundreds of years from now. We don't know, but we can continue to hope for it, even work for it in our prayers and how we asking him to come. It's a biblical thing to do. It's even an emotional thing to do. He said he wouldn't return until every nation or people group
00:28:40
Speaker
Right has heard the gospel so missions is really important to accelerate that work you could almost say it's worth studying even if we have to hold it loosely. Because this is not not a.
00:28:57
Speaker
A critical area to faith, but it's still something worth Wrestling with still something worth knowing and understanding because it is part of the Bible It is part of the word and he's put it in there for a reason. So it's worth reading memory memorizing parts of it and wrestling with So man, this has been a good conversation Thanks for having it with me. Whatever you whatever you believe hold on to it loosely and get ready. It's gonna happen. I
00:29:23
Speaker
Thanks for listening to this scripture and filtered series. If you ever have any questions, I'd like to start opening this up for others to ask. I need to create a forum for people to ask so I can insert them into this interview time so we can actually address not just my questions. I'm happy to continue adding conversations. But if you're listening to this and you remember after the sermon,
00:29:47
Speaker
I'll create a form somewhere that maybe we can announce sometime. Cause I'd love to start collecting questions from a congregation to insert in here and have like that, like almost make it a segment of this. So if you're listening to this, you've been enjoying this series for awhile and you have questions. I want to start making them part of the show. So great idea. Stay tuned for how to do that soon.