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Daily Manchester United - Episode 175 - The BOMB SQUAD
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Introduction with Niall and Ciarán
00:00:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hello everyone and welcome back to another episode of the daily Manchester United podcast. My name is Niall Hannigan and I'm joined by Ciarán McGinley tonight. Ciarán, first of all, how are you getting on?
00:00:25
Kieran McGinley
Yeah, I'm getting on all right. Busy weekend. ah yeah Yeah, you and Tom have already discussed sort of the game afterwards. ah
00:00:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm-hmm.
00:00:35
Kieran McGinley
We're doing well. 16th.
00:00:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:00:38
Kieran McGinley
Couldn't be going any better.
00:00:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, couldn't say it better myself. We're recording this just about 15, 20 minutes after the the big game St. James' Park there this evening. i remember when we were we used to be good, Kieran,
Reflecting on the New Season's Challenges
00:00:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
you know, looking at that this evening.
00:00:51
Kieran McGinley
no. It wasn't. well It was felt like such a long time ago.
00:00:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
A long time ago. Yeah, it's a tough one. It's a tough one. But yeah, um it's amazing. Two weeks into the season and I'm already back into the the mindset that I was last season where I'm not looking forward to watching them anymore.
00:01:10
Global Sports Podcast Network
You know, I was so upbeat after the Arsenal game.
00:01:10
Kieran McGinley
please
00:01:13
Global Sports Podcast Network
and Everyone online is kind of slagging us now saying that, you know, United are back and um we had lost the game against Arsenal. But there was a lot of positives to take from it. And then...
00:01:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
for the majority of the game at the weekend, it just really, really felt like back to square one again for and lot of PTSD from last season. um And I suppose that an apt kind of place for us to be ah languishing, as I was saying on yesterday's episode down in 16th.
Evaluating Manchester United's Current Strategy
00:01:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
Is there any positives at all, Ciarán, to cheer me up here?
00:01:45
Kieran McGinley
Well, I was going to say it could have been Jorah, but it actually went down as a Mane's own goal. So we didn't even score any of our own goals yesterday.
00:01:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:01:52
Kieran McGinley
I say yesterday. when you're When you're listening to this, it's Sunday. Way to ah age the episode. Thanks, Kieran. Yeah, but it was just... it we We never felt in control.
00:02:03
Kieran McGinley
ah was just ah kind of all over the place. I thought, you know, De Ligt Ahmad, when they were on, were were well probably our best players. I mean... They get all started from Fernandes.
00:02:16
Kieran McGinley
where The penalty's still going.
00:02:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
Still in the air, yeah.
00:02:19
Kieran McGinley
It's still going. i' You know, it's ever reliable from the you know from the spot. And no, it's still going. it's for I think from that moment, it was just a case of, I've got a bad feeling about this.
00:02:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:02:32
Kieran McGinley
I don't think this is going to go to plan at all. um
00:02:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:02:36
Kieran McGinley
But, you know, as we've already said, you know, It's great to have a new system. It's great to spend 200 million on basically a new attack and it's still misfiring for now.
00:02:47
Kieran McGinley
And you just sort of think, how long are we going to give this before it's sort of a case of, have we learned anything? Because this seems like windows of the past where once again, we overspend for players.
00:02:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm-hmm.
00:02:58
Kieran McGinley
We... I would say we have a plan this time. There's definitely a strategy there. But is it the right strategy? I don't know. Heck, a 16-year-old from Newcastle came on, as we're recording this tonight, to score the winner.
00:03:13
Kieran McGinley
And you just think, ah
Player Development and Future Prospects
00:03:15
Kieran McGinley
you know what? United used to be great at that. Just bringing on a 16-year-old to win the game. That would have been great. ah Rio Nguma came on in the 96th minute of the game, scored in the 100th.
00:03:26
Kieran McGinley
Obviously. Obviously it had to happen.
00:03:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:03:28
Kieran McGinley
But... Yeah, I miss those days where we could just bring on a player and they would be amazing. And, you know, it was just standard to to have a player just burst onto the scene. And that was that. i We've used that phrase a lot. I devolved that strictly from Micah Richards.
00:03:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, it's only his phrase now.
00:03:45
Kieran McGinley
Yeah. i
00:03:46
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:03:47
Kieran McGinley
But I love it. I love it so much. But yeah, you you get players who come through the academy, not necessarily steal the show, but they put in a good performance and you just, you sort of know from that point onwards, yeah, they're going to be a bit of a ah menace whilst they're around in the squad. And through course, they maybe even more than that, i end up getting sold on or released anyway at the end of the end of their contracts from the academy. So it's just a case of what could we do with players like Scott McTominay and, um you know,
00:04:14
Kieran McGinley
He's over there now on the Ballon d'Or shortlist, winning Serie A titles and playing alongside Kevin De Bruyne.
00:04:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
Oh, man.
00:04:20
Kieran McGinley
I mean, it's the man's loving life now that he's not in Manchester.
00:04:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
No. McTominay has it sussed. He is living the life, honestly. Like, that man. Did you see the photos of him at Wimbledon in the summer? like that italian glow i don't think you can't buy that like there was no way he was getting that in manchester i am i'm absolutely delighted for him i mean like he is living the life there's a photo of him syria just started at the weekend he's just lying on the grass after being substituted two nil up in their first game of the season defending their title he's on the shortlist for the ballon door life's good man life is good yeah
00:04:56
Kieran McGinley
Yeah.
00:04:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
And it was funny you mentioned the the Liverpool youngster that came on. It was very Rashford-esque, you know, scoring on the debut. um And speaking of the bomb squad, actually, ah Rashford has found a new home. But the rest of them, Garnaccio, Sancho, Anthony...
00:05:15
Global Sports Podcast Network
Malassia still just lingering on. and Whether that Chelsea deal with Garnaccio is going to happen, I don't know. There was ah further rumours over the last couple of days that they might be sending a bit of ah a player swap option there.
00:05:31
Global Sports Podcast Network
and Obviously, we had Sancho that was at Chelsea last year. Seemed to be doing some sort of a rotation of... of cast aside wingers and and see how they get on um we've got malasia doing his own training as well which is always good to see and then anthony haven't heard much from recently but surely he's making his way back to spain i mean what do we do with these guys i mean is there is there a is there a stage where and hoyland as well actually is there a stage over the next week where they end up being reintegrated back into the squad
00:05:59
Kieran McGinley
i For some of them, maybe.
Managerial Decisions and Team Dynamics
00:06:03
Kieran McGinley
But I think that, you know, if Amorim wants to make his point and make it clear, the players that he has outcast and the players that he has pretty much said has have got no place in the squad can't return.
00:06:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. Yeah.
00:06:14
Kieran McGinley
Jadon Sancho is one of them. If he's allowed back into the squad, that's going to undermine Amorim to to the nth degree. Yeah. You've got to back a manager in in in those you know player versus manager scenarios um because otherwise you undermine the manager's leadership and in in the first place.
00:06:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:06:31
Kieran McGinley
you know There was a reason Rashford is out on loan. He's out on loan again, ah first at Villa, now at Barcelona. you know It's clear that Amirim doesn't see a future for Rashford at Manchester United.
00:06:44
Kieran McGinley
And if that Rashford is and then integrated back into the squad, that undermines the whole raison d'etre for Amorim coming in and and you know grabbing the squad by the scruff of their neck.
00:06:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. Mm-hmm.
00:06:57
Kieran McGinley
You go back on your word... you know what What else will you go back on? Next to will we call into the tactics or why can't we just go back to this? you know you In essence, whether it's the right or wrong decision as a manager, you've got to rule with an iron fist and you've got to say, no, that is my decision. I'm sticking by it.
00:07:13
Kieran McGinley
If it's the right decision, great. If it's the wrong decision, well, let's see what happens down the line. But you've you've got to have the iron fist. You can't go back on your word as a manager. It's one of the worst things you could do.
00:07:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's a really tough one because if they do align with the kind of the the regiment that Amram has and the new kind of feel-good factor that apparently has been you know quoted and really pushed out to the fan base over the past few weeks, over pre-season and also in the first couple of weeks of the season, you know if they do buy into that and and the players accept it as well, then there's an opportunity to do it. But if at any stage that turns against them, then...
00:07:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
you know everything's undermined and you make a great point around the form formation as well we saw Ange coming under serious pressure in the Premier League last season where he he said look this is just how we play mate and you know at the end of the day he probably did slightly change his style in the Europa League final against us where They did go a little more pragmatic and
Addressing Recent Performance Concerns
00:08:16
Global Sports Podcast Network
in a way because he knew that we wouldn't be able to break them down and they had such success and throughout the season, beating us twice, three times actually.
00:08:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
um So yeah, it could be an issue where Amram becomes completely undermined, but... it's, it's a tough one. It's a tough one. Well, he's got more games now with United than points. Like that's a, that's a horrific stat to have really. Um, and you see, you know, the, the reaction that managers get from, from clubs, uh, within the league with, with lesser players than ourselves. And, you know, we, we constantly kind of give them excuses and, uh,
00:08:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
And kind of a pass as well to say, look, he needs a ah preseason to kind of get these players used to assist them. He needs to get new players. I mean, now we have a whole new attack. um And it's crazy just how the narrative has shifted so quickly because that that really felt like ah a must-win game against Fulham. But these next few are 100% must-win games. And after the Burnley game, they're not getting much easier.
00:09:15
Kieran McGinley
I mean, we go away to Grimsby now and the risk of sounding, you know, what was it? MK Dons-esque. and that That we cannot lose to Grimsby.
00:09:26
Kieran McGinley
If that happens, not only will we be the laughingstock of the Premier League, but there's going to be some serious questions raised about the entire season.
00:09:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. Mm-hmm.
00:09:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:09:34
Kieran McGinley
And I do wonder, you know,
00:09:36
Kieran McGinley
Now that we've dropped points against Fulham, because I'm ah willing to admit that we dropped points against Fulham. um you know We missed the Xerxes winner from last season. That's one of the only things I remember from last season.
00:09:47
Kieran McGinley
ah Much better times, apparently. But, you know, it it is... do i won't say it's not possible, but it cannot happen. It cannot happen. If it does, then the whole season's in question and the whole window's in question as to how, once again...
00:10:03
Kieran McGinley
We've missed out on potential targets. I mean, I i hear from Fabrizio that Donnarumma is potentially going to City.
Goalkeeping Issues and Potential Transfers
00:10:13
Kieran McGinley
So, yeah we you know, Trafford in two games apparently is not good with his feet.
00:10:13
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm-hmm.
00:10:17
Kieran McGinley
So that's his City career done. um That's just the Pep way. So I guess Donnarumma's coming in who is good with his feet.
00:10:28
Kieran McGinley
Okay. But yeah, I just, I don't know. it's It's not a game now that we can afford to rotate. And that's probably what what should be happening against Grimsby.
00:10:39
Kieran McGinley
And now I don't think it will. it It can't happen. We need to win that game. We have to. There's no there's no other alternative. We lose that game. We lose everything.
00:10:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, we might as well pack up and go home.
00:10:50
Kieran McGinley
Yeah.
00:10:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
um
00:10:50
Kieran McGinley
Throw games in. See you, lads. It was a nice effort. See you in the championship.
00:10:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. It was a great feel-good factor in preseason, but we'll see in America next year.
00:10:59
Kieran McGinley
Didn't even make it two games before we lost the vibes.
00:10:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
don't know.
00:11:01
Kieran McGinley
Like, come on. We didn't even get a here we are so back from Niall. The season's over, lads. Season's over.
00:11:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
No, we did get a We Are So Back when I saw a random ed edit in the summer of Mbwemo, Cunha, and Ahmad. I was like, oh, we are so back. It was just a slight bit of inspirational music and behind it and and that was enough for me.
00:11:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
It doesn't take much to get a wee or so back so you never know a oneno victory against Grimsby could could bring that phrase back out again.
00:11:28
Kieran McGinley
After extra time, 120th minute.
00:11:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
But anyway.
00:11:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. Own goal. Yeah. 100%.
00:11:36
Kieran McGinley
Yeah, that's the United way now.
00:11:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
Still haven't scored for the season yet.
00:11:40
Kieran McGinley
Does it even go to 120 minutes in the league cup?
00:11:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
That's the plan.
00:11:42
Kieran McGinley
I don't even know. ah probably doesn't.
00:11:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
I don't know. and know Anyway, I think we need a bit of bionic.
00:12:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
Getting back on our favourite topic of my United goalkeepers, there is i let little little bit of news about our goalkeeping situation. and Sen Lehmans, or Lammans, not sure how to pronounce it, playing for Antwerp.
00:13:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
We've been linked with him. um And he also missed his last game in the Belgian League against Mechelen on Sunday. um there's ah There's a chance that we can get him for in around £17 million.
00:13:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
pines I mean... Looking at the weekend, again, at Bayon Deer, I asked the social media guys to put a compilation together of of him trying to defend corners because um it needs to be studied.
00:13:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
And we do need a a replacement very, very quickly to come in. So this lad just needs to have played a couple of games before and I think he'll be straight in. But thoughts on on a new keeper, Kieran?
00:13:46
Global Sports Podcast Network
I mean, bit of a relatively unknown player. I'm not going to pretend I know anything about him, but it can't get any worse.
00:13:53
Kieran McGinley
I mean, yeah. mean, that's just a phrase that I think we're going to use this season. Unless we finish, you know, 16th, where we are right now. It's going to be a you We didn't know how good we had it.
00:14:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
Man, last year was so good. We were 15.
00:14:06
Kieran McGinley
Honestly. Honestly. um no i I just... yeah You're right. it It can't be much worse. I think Mayandir has sort of shown over the last couple of games that he's not he's not the guy. He's not the guy we need in goal. And...
00:14:23
Kieran McGinley
you know Tom has said on an earlier episode that he wants Tom Heaton in goal for the Grimsky game. And and you know to use our third choice keeper, who is there as a homegrown nation player, specifically for European competition that we're not in this season.
00:14:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
you
00:14:41
Kieran McGinley
So make of that what you will. But to be calling on Tom Heaton, I mean, it's not a bad thing, but third-choice keeper, when your first is out and your backup should be you know giving the first-choice keeper ah about a hard time, not the fans, um in terms of performances in goal, is a little worrying.
00:15:04
Kieran McGinley
But as you said, for if it is £17 million, if that's £1-7, I heard, i mean, you know we've already spent £200 million on our new attack, we might as well just... Throw another 17 million in there. Apparently, what's that? What financial crisis? Huh? What was that six months ago?
00:15:18
Kieran McGinley
We had a financial crisis. No way. I don't believe you. um What was that? we were letting go staff. No, I don't believe you. What's that? The dinners were scrapped. No, I don't believe you. Like, come on.
00:15:29
Kieran McGinley
Come on. um so I'm just so tired, man.
00:15:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
This is Manchester United.
00:15:35
Kieran McGinley
let's just stop it there i mean just come on now come on i i don't know how long this is going to go on for like i i am i am get it in there play the clip roll the role the roll of all the episode roll the clip it can and yeah i know it does and it will know
00:15:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
you trying to You're trying to get Mick McCarthy into this episode. um You're trying to weave it in there some way.
00:15:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
It can't go on like this, Ciarán.
00:15:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
And it does, yeah.
00:16:00
Kieran McGinley
But to bring it back to the point of a new keeper, if it is 17 million, we can't be doing a lot worse. um So, yeah, why not? Splash splash the cash and let's let's see what happens. I just think you know we're going to miss out on Donnarumma and I think we'll probably regret that because I think Donnarumma is a fantastic shot stopper.
00:16:22
Kieran McGinley
I don't think he's as good with... I don't want to say he's like terrible technically, but he's not what Pep wants in Edison. but Essentially, a midfielder in goal.
00:16:33
Kieran McGinley
I just think he would have been a better fit and he would he would look better in the United keeper kit. Come on. Let's not lie about that.
00:16:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah I would and we don't need a ah goal a footballing goalkeeper like we just need someone who doesn't stumble in the box when there's a corner coming in like let's just start from the basics first and we had ah we had a keeper that could play with his feet and he's horrendous at everything else so I'm not too concerned about that
00:16:39
Kieran McGinley
but
00:16:44
Kieran McGinley
No.
00:16:51
Kieran McGinley
I can hand...
00:16:56
Kieran McGinley
Well, I was going to say, like you know, in Unana, it's a case of, it's a style of goalkeeping that Manchester United is may maybe not quite used to with with the likes of David De Gea, with Peter Schmeichel.
00:17:09
Kieran McGinley
You know, they would defend their line. I think the closest we would have had to someone eccentric and it working was Fabian Bartes. but But that's because he...
00:17:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
Cartes, yeah.
00:17:18
Kieran McGinley
For a keeper, wasn't the tallest round. He was about six foot, six one maybe, which when you say like that, it's like, oh, that's not short. But it is when you've got six foot four, six foot five, six foot six keepers around.
00:17:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
Regoula, yeah.
00:17:29
Kieran McGinley
It is it is you know a disadvantage. So he had to think of something else. And that was being eccentric. That was closing down the space. So, you know, ah the great keepers of Man United of of the past have defended the line, have made themselves big.
00:17:43
Kieran McGinley
But in terms of the goal, you know, David Tejia saving with his feet, for example, which, was unheard of, apparently, in the Premier League. you know Saving with your feet, that's not a thing.
00:17:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm-hmm.
00:17:53
Kieran McGinley
Well, St. David made it a thing. I just feel like Inanna, I've given that a chance. And I've always said that Amra will probably give him one more season. It'll be this one. And this will be make or break for Inanna. If he doesn't settle in this season, if he doesn't show what he can do and what he's shown in the past, then I think it's going to be, you know, it might be curtains for him.
00:18:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, and I mean, if we do get this over the line with this keeper, I mean, i think he's coming in to start. I can't see. We don't need a fourth keeper. um And I don't think he'll be fighting for his place. I think it'll be it'll be made very clear if if we're bringing in another keeper and we already have three, he's he's coming in to start.
00:18:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
um And like we said, look, it's ah it's not that much money. And to be fair, if you look back at the signage that we've made recently, Patrick D'Orgu's been excellent and he's probably one of the ones that went under the radar and was good value and not overpaid for him, which is something that we do all the time. So, you know, um it might not be the worst thing in the world going for someone little bit under the radar and seeing how it works out.
00:19:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
But like you said, the goalkeeping position at United, that's ah It's a tough one to follow up on. And when we've had those really long standing goalkeepers, we've had a lot in between. And we feel like we're in one of those phases as well, trying to get through from and find the next David De Gea or the next Van der Sauer. So it's it's going to be a rough one, but it's ah it's a rough one all over the pitch as well,
Looking Ahead to Upcoming Matches
00:19:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
to be honest. And yeah, it could be a rough one against Grimsby.
00:19:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
But let's see how we get on.
00:19:27
Kieran McGinley
Oh, that's... Oh, no.
00:19:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
I know. Yeah.
00:19:32
Kieran McGinley
Do you get to a point?
00:19:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's still August, Kieran. It's still August.
00:19:33
Kieran McGinley
I know.
00:19:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:19:34
Kieran McGinley
i know. i think it's taken me two games before like, oh, no, we're playing again? Really? When's the international break? Like, when's the next international break so the media can say, oh, here we go, and it's another international break, another chance for Amarim to drill in the system. How long do you need to drill in the system? I don't understand.
00:19:54
Kieran McGinley
what's What's stopping? We didn't have the Club World Cup. Very few of our players went away on international duty. Make of that what you will. like How long do we need to drill in this system? How complicated is it? I don't understand.
00:20:06
Kieran McGinley
These are professionals. ah How long does it take? i don't know. oh
00:20:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:20:11
Kieran McGinley
Well, anyway, look, if it takes you know taking over a team that was in a bad way, I guess you give it time. You see how it goes. But there has to be an improvement in results. you know Arsenal lost...
00:20:26
Kieran McGinley
It happens. You lose against Arsenal. It's not the end of the world. But a game where we should have been winning at Fulham, you know a game that we've proven, even at our worst last season, we could still get a result.
00:20:37
Kieran McGinley
We dropped points. So it's worrying. And I'm hoping that there are brighter brighter results on the horizon. And what needs to happen is... yeah know lots of goals at Grimsby.
00:20:49
Kieran McGinley
Otherwise, again, it's going to be called... It can't be a 1-0 win or even a 2-0 win. A 2-0 win in my book and in a lot of other books will not be good enough in that strange way.
00:20:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:21:01
Kieran McGinley
It needs to be ah a route.
00:21:04
Global Sports Podcast Network
But we had that last year, didn't we? Was it, I can't remember the name of the team now. Was it Bradford or something? it was at home and we won, honestly, must have won about eight, seven or eight nil. And Garnaccio was on fire and Rashford was on fire, but it was, um yeah, it just wasn't enough.
00:21:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
So I'm more looking for, I mean, do I really want to be tuning into Grimsby? I don't know, probably have to.
00:21:26
Kieran McGinley
You have to, you have to.
00:21:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
We have to.
00:21:28
Kieran McGinley
It's what we're here for now. is you have to.
00:21:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
grimsby on a wednesday night or whatever day it's on but yeah um the burnley game has to be three points like that i like non-negotiable because i honestly felt the fulham game was like that this weekend so it really does need to be that way and like you mentioned performances need to turn into results we need to get performances first which we didn't get at the weekend and then we need to start getting results and uh if not we're in for a
00:21:41
Kieran McGinley
yeah
00:21:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
another long season and it's going to be documented fantastic it'll be there now for for everyone to listen to but uh we move we move kieran thank you very much for joining me um i hope it didn't ruin your weekend too much and uh we have a lot of games to look forward to so uh thank you for joining me and we'll see in the next one