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Episode 113: Match Review - HOW DID WE LOSE THAT?!?

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Southampton – It's the hope that kills you... What a game of football that was and somehow once again we come away with nothing from it. We discuss where we think it all went wrong...

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Introduction to the Daily Southampton Podcast

00:00:09
Zak
and welcome to the Daily Southampton, part of the Global Sports Podcast Network. I am unfortunately your host, who is full of some weird manic energy that I can't quite

Match Recap: Southampton vs. Manchester United

00:00:19
Zak
describe. but ah zaing go finch I'm also joined by my co-host, Gregory Elliott.
00:00:27
Zak
We just lost 3-1 to Manchester United in a game that the commentators described as, well, after what was for an hour an outstanding performance, which I think you could put as the tagline for so much of this season.
00:00:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
it's Yeah, it's the story of the season by far.
00:00:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
Look, for 81 minutes we were by far the better team.
00:00:49
Zak
Perfect. We're going to have so many gold stars. There's going to be the same type. but It's the same type of accolades that Spurs have in their trophy cabinet.
00:00:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:00:58
Zak
It's like, oh, beat a team.
00:00:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
But at the end of the day, mate, if you're breaking it down to the basics, it's the same problem is that even with being the best team for 82 minutes, we didn't score a goal.
00:01:06
Zak
We can't score.
00:01:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
They knocked it in the net for us. like And, you know, the goal came and they said it on TV and they were like, Southampton, haven't scored from a corner all season.
00:01:12
Zak
Oh, my goodness gracious me.
00:01:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
I'm like, well, let's hope that's the commentator's

Game Strategy and Substitution Concerns

00:01:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
curse. And then it went in and I'm like, we didn't even score that.
00:01:22
Zak
Yep.
00:01:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
i
00:01:25
Zak
We did not. I had to try and explain to my wife during half-time as I ran around the house happy that she was like, well how did that even happen? I was like, du I don't know, kind of came off the back of Tyler Diblin's head and hit a Manchester United player into their goal.
00:01:39
Zak
Definitely not a goal we should have scored. but you know the problem with that is that you had great shot from Silamana, 12 minutes, great save from Anana, Fernandez on target but straight in the arms, a few set pieces but they didn't redo a lot, Garnaccio missed.
00:01:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
We'll take the brakes.
00:01:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
There was a chance, I was going to say, how did Gornachro miss that sitter from the penalty spot? At that point, we should have been going.
00:01:57
Zak
i I am, of all the players they brought off, I am very surprised he remained on the pitch because we do we absolutely, to be honest, for me, was a, that obviously it was classic Saints doing Saints things, and we'll get into that in a bit, but for me, that was really a,
00:02:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:02:15
Zak
That was really a game of game management and our substitutions were bad and seemed to make little to no sense in my mind. I'm sure we'll talk about it later. Manchester United didn't.
00:02:26
Zak
They looked significantly better. As much as Agate and Rasmus were really, really sad and you can see how miserable they were, you know, everyone else who came up with was better.
00:02:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:02:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
I feel like, you know, I feel ah feel exactly the same as when we got beat by Arsenal, where it's like, well our substitutions were rubbish, but honestly, who else have we got?
00:02:36
Zak
Xerxes was better.
00:02:47
Zak
yeah but but this is my problem is that i don't i don't think maybe we should have made the substitutions i don't think that they the players who they took off looked like they were done like dibbling i understand was an injury but but swapping him off for a returning will small bone who i don't remember much as an attacking footer and the
00:02:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
were good at the quality shot through.
00:02:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
I would have maybe bought on downs at that point if we were forced to, well yeah.
00:03:11
Zak
all the la Why would you not bring Lalana on? why does he Why does he warm the bench? i Where I'm at is genuine genuine thing. I love Lalana. But if he is never going to play for us, surely having a Samamoo on the bench would make more sense because he might actually off offer another alternative.
00:03:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, I agree with that.
00:03:31
Zak
Because at the moment, I feel like he's just there to kind of like learn management skills from the manager.
00:03:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, I don't don't disagree, but I just think that in that moment, what the game needed was shoring up.

Player Performance Analysis

00:03:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
And I don't know if Lallana's in a state of fitness that where that's what he brings. He would raise the game of everyone or else around him. We've seen that. And I don't think it would be a bad call.
00:03:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
I just think bringing on downs and leaving on Ugo Chukwu feels like the more sensible option.
00:04:02
Zak
i
00:04:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
Or even like Archer, what's Archer got to do to get on the pitch? like At least he's going to run at the centre backs and not give them time to...
00:04:07
Zak
No, no I didn't
00:04:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
it just it was a straight That was the first of the strange decisions towards substitutions.
00:04:18
Zak
Yeah, but the thing is, is it's it's it's a tale as old as time for Saints this season. right it's It's that we should have put away all the chances that we didn't put away.
00:04:29
Zak
And like this isn't to take any disrespect from Salamana. He was electric. I don't know what what has happened, whether he's seen like a lifestyle coach, whether he's realized that he's not going to get a certain bonus.
00:04:42
Zak
I genuinely don't know.
00:04:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
i think you said it i think you said it last episode mate it's uh it's january so we might be able to move
00:04:43
Zak
like I don't want to be that cynical.
00:04:49
Zak
it's is it Is it shop window time? Is he suddenly going to be bad at the end of January? Who

Style vs. Effective Play Debate

00:04:54
Zak
knows? like Is it because he's been given, I guess, the confidence of a manager to play in a position and and do those things?
00:05:01
Zak
but The problem is is that you cannot... like that was Usually, obviously, we complain of the style over substance, but a lot of the style did actually pay off today. But there were a lot of times where he held onto the ball a little bit too long and then to try and make it a fancy goal when it could have just been a tap-in.
00:05:10
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hmm.
00:05:17
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:05:18
Zak
and that's that's a problem but that's a lot of you know I don't I still think he's managed to create more chances than most of our forward players this season in the two games he's been involved in so either way yeah dibbling was really really good
00:05:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. 100%. Ibbian was pretty good until he went off as well. Like he got, had that, might've drawn what most seasons would probably be save of the season from Onana with that double save.
00:05:39
Global Sports Podcast Network
obviously save of the season earmarked for Ramsdale but at one time earlier in the season but yeah I don't know I feel I feel so sad and yet entirely at peace with that is exactly what I expected to happen so
00:05:59
Zak
yeah Yeah, but but that's that's the devastating thing about it. And this is this is why, if we if we don't beat Darby's point record, this is exactly going to be why. Because like again, classic sense of we we spend our the entire game one, like you said, not the entire game. but We spend a lot of you know the second half of one nil up. We really need a second goal to kill it off. We don't quite get it. They start having chances. They start to build confidence. They build more confidence. We make some strange substitutions. They score.
00:06:26
Zak
we We panic, we try and shore things up, but there's you could feel it. It was like a buzz in the air. And I literally put 83 minutes, like the vibes are changing. And this was after we sort of brought on Wood and Analachi for Bednarek, which I don't really understand why he wasn't carded.
00:06:39
Global Sports Podcast Network
Thank you for that one. like
00:06:43
Zak
and Ugo Chukwu where again like I don't really understand he was one of the best players we had today as well to to bring him on for a cameo of the big man who I think had the ball like once or twice and then obviously because of that vibe change and the fact that our team are no longer gelling together because we've got a lot of changes going on they score again and and they score again both by getting around Karl Walker Peters who again is playing on the left and not the right I don't think that's
00:06:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:07:09
Zak
I know that he would play better on the right, but I also know that Sugawara had a pretty good game as well.
00:07:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
but
00:07:14
Zak
All things considered.
00:07:15
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah Karl Walker-Peters, I've written down or I wrote down before the goals admittedly Karl Walker-Peters continues to be incredible has been absolutely solid at the back and I think the first goal he got, unluckily he took an unlucky bounce off his leg and
00:07:23
Zak
Yeah.
00:07:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
You know any other player on the pitch of the other 22 players isn't striking it as quickly as that in In such positive way. It's just an unlucky break Yeah i add Yeah, the second goal walkers could probably have done better, but I mean but then the third goal is just plastic paints in it I actually think I wrote it as
00:07:39
Zak
I just think that Ahmaud's a better player, that's not his fault.
00:07:50
Zak
the The third goal, and and yeah because it was directly after the commentary team.
00:07:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
just completing the full house bingo card of a classic saints capitulation. look
00:08:02
Zak
I feel really bad for the traveling fans, like going off on Coach, and buy it like to Manchester all day on a Thursday of all days to be able to, you know, they wanted to...
00:08:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
but They had 82 minutes of the best day of their lives and they had
00:08:11
Zak
Well, this is the thing, right? Somebody commented on one of our TikToks a while back, the Sheffield United fans say they feel for us. It's like, you've got to enjoy every moment, every goal. And I'm like, you literally do. That's all we have

Future Prospects for Southampton

00:08:21
Zak
now. Like, we we have to enjoy this sort of 80 minutes of football that's good.
00:08:26
Zak
But the problem is, is it's like, I just worry, are we ever going to win in the Premier League ever again? are we, is this it now? For the rest of time, we're just cursed to not. So yeah, some of my so sort of like, outsidey notes is obviously sort of, I don't get it done, preplayed really well, considering the sort of, I guess,
00:08:47
Zak
courage or trajectory he has had at Southampton is joining under a former manager to get to play in the Premier League as the team he left is then promoted to the Premier League, play some championship football and now seems to be sort of in to Zurich starting 11 finally in a really bo bad season so I'm really happy for him.
00:09:08
Zak
I so i pointed out that the centre backs barely had the ball which was a lovely change so there was not a huge amount of passing around at the back lovely and
00:09:15
Global Sports Podcast Network
Old Venice had quite a bit of the ball, but mostly through stepping up into midfield.
00:09:18
Zak
Yeah but that must follow me like usually whenever he had it he was passing it forward though it was the big difference but let's let's talk a little bit more about the game after a word from our partners at Zencaster.
00:09:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
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00:09:54
Zak
And we are back. So yeah, the other performance I wanted to point out, like a Rebo played a lot better than he has the last couple of games as well. like I just genuinely think that like the commentary team has said it quite well with the fact that we we weren't playing like a team at the bottom of the table.
00:10:12
Zak
But we did, as soon as they started scoring.
00:10:15
Global Sports Podcast Network
we've We've seen

Signs of Team Improvement?

00:10:16
Global Sports Podcast Network
that all season. if there's not Apart from three notable exceptions where we've not shown up at all and been absolutely battered, apart from those three games, every single game this season we've been there all thereabouts for Bournemouth as well in the first half we got annihilated but but it's been spells here and there where it's good and the spells are getting longer which are giving a bit of hope that maybe there's a trajectory to getting something here but it's just...
00:10:48
Zak
Yeah, but you do you see us now going on to beat Newcastle or Forest, genuinely?
00:10:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
i know know ah but one of the notes I wrote down early in the first half here is
00:10:54
Zak
No, not even...
00:11:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
This aggressive style of play is good, but leaves us susceptible for a counter-attack. Thankfully, United don't seem to want to move the ball that quickly forward. However, not even Forrest are notoriously a counter-attacking team.
00:11:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
So if we go in on Sunday with that same approach, we could be in for another Spurs, honestly, because we're just going to get annihilated by the counter.
00:11:20
Zak
Well, I think that he's... I'm hoping with like the game plan that he had today, really, really sort of... I don't know if it's just because Sulibana is now showing up or what. It showed that like, okay, maybe maybe they'll be on something. So I'm really hoping we don't go after watching Summer Forest Games and go, maybe we should just play the same way we did last week. Because that's that's why we got rid of the last match.
00:11:49
Zak
So you know that that's the only piece of hope I have. but you know and And also you can tell how how furious Zurich was in comparison to sort of where Russell Martin's nervous tick that I pointed out to you that you didn't really notice much was he would constantly crouch down and pick up and rip up little bits of grass all the time.
00:11:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:12:06
Zak
Zurich seems to be pacing more and more

Manager's Frustration and Psychological Barriers

00:12:08
Zak
frantically but genuinely sort of shouting at the players, getting mad.
00:12:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
I think he took out a Man United fan in Rosette with a water bottle at one point.
00:12:16
Zak
yeah That's the thing. like and I can understand why he's human. and i hope you you know i don't know I don't know what is needed to stop the capitulation after we concede a goal. I don't know whether it's giving them a hug. I don't know whether or not it's going to be somehow getting a run of games where we don't do that, every even if it's just a bunch of draws. I don't really mind if it's fear. If it means they've got to be scared of him shouting at them.
00:12:40
Zak
And that's why they don't want to lose. I'm kind of right with it because maybe they need that a little bit. Like maybe they need to be consequences to the actions because like our fan base has traveled all the way to Old Trafford in a season where we have six points to watch 80 minutes of us be amazing.
00:12:46
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:12:57
Zak
Completely undone by a hat trick that took place from the 82nd to the 94th minute So that is that that is eight minutes of football.
00:13:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. Yeah.
00:13:05
Zak
It went from one nil to three one Sorry,
00:13:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
12 minutes, that's awful fast, come on.
00:13:13
Zak
sorry yeah, no, you're right that's that's
00:13:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
faiomane territory yeah is
00:13:17
Zak
but And then the thing is as well is, you know, we we have a couple of our fellows at GSPN, and we're talking about, you know, how insane the decision was to captain Diallo tonight, and guess what, it paid off real well on their, obviously their FBL.
00:13:31
Zak
But like, yeah just...
00:13:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
Also, one of the hilarious notes I wrote down at the start in the first half was that he got booked for diving in the first half.
00:13:33
Zak
you
00:13:39
Zak
he did. That is something amaged for yellow for simulation and to which I put dot dot dot low in the 45th plus one minute. But yeah that's the thing, you kind of they they didn't really turn up and until he had what I could only describe as the missive of the season.
00:13:55
Zak
That was that was i genuine genuinely like maybe it would be a turning point for them because ironically when they were playing their players who
00:13:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
That was horrendous.
00:14:03
Zak
had nothing to do with the antics of previous Manchester United. They played a lot better and fair play to them but it's like we we could have won that had we put away those chances and that is the story of our season. I don't know who we could get in to start putting chances away. We had we have like the top goal scorer for the championship last season and we're talking about dipping in now to get like Whittaker from Plymouth who probably wouldn't want to come.
00:14:27
Zak
with yeah it's it's like I don't know if it's just, there's something weird about when the ball gets into the box. It just doesn't ever feel like it's going in. I keep pointing this out.
00:14:37
Zak
It's like a feeling. There's a whole vibe to it. And it felt a lot better tonight, but there was still, you're you're watching.
00:14:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
Even then it wasn't us that scored the goal.
00:14:45
Zak
There you go. And and that's that's the kind of thing and it's like, I don't know what we need to do. if you know Do we just shove them in front of shooting practice? Because I don't think it's that. I think it's a a worry at the end.
00:14:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
not It's not You don't get to be a player at any level who gets paid the amount of money they get paid without you know being able to kick the ball in the net.
00:14:57
Zak
It's it's so weird.
00:15:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
in a non-pressure situation. It's clearly its mentality. It's dealing with the pressure. It's dealing with the fact that they haven't been able to do it so far this season.
00:15:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
And that again, you know, how many times at the start of the season did we just say, they just need a goal and then it will start piling on. And then, you know, ah ah Cameron Archer gets a couple and looks like he's going to be hitting the ground running.
00:15:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
it Now, all of a sudden he's the one that can't get in the squad.
00:15:36
Zak
you say you say a couple it was but it was like it was like two in two mate let's not get too i i know this for a fact
00:15:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
a copwell That's still better than the rest of the team. but he
00:15:46
Zak
Yeah, but this is my point is that then we played him for a significantly large portion of it after it and it never came afterwards. And this this is, like again, like if it I can understand why we're we're trying anything, right?
00:15:58
Zak
we've We've now had the tool pool. We've still not had the tool pool. I think we had it for five minutes of before a substitution.
00:16:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:16:04
Zak
We've had Armstrong not really managed to even get slightly to where he was last season. You've now got dipling up front with Sulamana who, yeah, they managed in the FA Cup, but they need to do something in the Premier League for it to matter.
00:16:17
Zak
you know I don't think that yeah we would be talking about Sulamana being one of our forward players that we're expecting to be a goal-scoring threat even even four weeks ago.
00:16:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
But look, there's only one... we I know that we don't tend to pay too much attention to statistical analysis on this show. But there's a stat from the game that really drills home probably why it never feels like we're going to score when we're in the box. And that's just total touches inside the opposition's box. So we had 18, which to be honest is high for us. Man United had 48.
00:16:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
i and you know it's and that's why when it came it felt like it was coming they probably should have been 2-1 up before they even scored because if a competent footballer that's not Anthony gets on the end of that chance like even tall Paul could have scored that you know what I mean and then on that show had one in the first half like
00:17:06
Zak
Yeah, you're not wrong.
00:17:13
Zak
and You're right. falling Falling to the ground like a sniper had taken him out for no apparent reason did seem like a decision. And I'm sure when he looks back, his when he's playing for like some sort of low-level Greek team, because that's where the only place he's going to end up after a terrible season.
00:17:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
like Genuinely what success if he did his trademark 360 spin move what and Yeah, don't know it's it's sad to lose in the way that we lost but also Also, it had been coming For a while like I say if if they put away that you say if we put away our chances we'd have won but also if they'd have put away some of their chances and
00:17:37
Zak
ah right, you might have accidentally rolled it into the goal at that point.
00:17:46
Zak
It's the hope that kills you. We say it every time.

Reflecting on Missed Opportunities

00:17:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
like Garmacho's miss was a ridiculous miss. Anthony's miss was the most ridiculous miss I've ever seen. Bruno had a chance that if there were any other players up in the box supporting him, and he'd have been able to drag it back instead of trying to trick chip Rambo, was probably a goal then as well. So it's it feels like it was a harsh way to lose, but to get to that point in the 82nd minute, we'd ridden our luck.
00:18:26
Zak
yeah but yeah they this ah ah yeah
00:18:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
We didn't sit off, but we did slow down.
00:18:28
Zak
but
00:18:31
Global Sports Podcast Network
and
00:18:31
Zak
i'll be but But then again, I think that's slightly to do with the substitution. You should end up having a group of players that that were jelling that were playing really really well and I understand that there's tiredness and bits and pieces and like with dipling I understand it he he basically picked up a small knock how that's going to affect the rest of our season who knows but but like when it came to the other ones like they seem to not it seemed to just not work like and it's like maybe maybe playing the non Russell Martin players has been has been good because they don't seem as tainted by but the defeat.
00:19:03
Zak
Whereas, you know, we brought Oda Flynn down to, quite frankly, this season just hasn't been the player he was last season. First thing he did was come on and get booked and then, unfortunately, gets in the way of a really good tayloror harwood bennet but Taylor blog.
00:19:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:19:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
That was a classic Russell Martin booking for Flynn Downs as well just to take one for the team.
00:19:15
Zak
Taylor-Harvard-Bettis playing
00:19:21
Zak
Absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah. just It's very, yeah, it's it's it we're going to have the problem because we've changed the manager halfway through the season. And and I think your episode on and philosophies, and if anyone's not listened to it, you should probably look have a look back into it. I think it's titled how Pep Guardiola ruined football.
00:19:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, I'll stand by it.
00:19:40
Zak
that's worth a listen. That's worth a listen because like that explains why whenever you shift the manager in such a way like I remember I was talking to the Wolves podcast as well with them still struggling about the way that they play because a lot of the players still want to play the same way as they did under Nuno because they just that's that's kind of what's drilled into them and
00:20:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
You're right, though, because with that freedom, Sulamana looks like a completely different player and now that he's willing to get his head down and take a player on like I've seen multiple pundits say that he had the the young lad he was up against on toast right up until the point they decided not to take him off the pitch and then he turned into the invisible man maybe it's just not the game to bring back a Will Smallbone
00:20:21
Zak
And then you're, and then you'll bring, yeah, you're right. That was a bit, a bit strange, but you're bringing all the sort of players that that are lacking confidence and don't really know which way is up. And then, you know, maybe, maybe that is a bit of a problem. And I don't.
00:20:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
recover him from injury when you're taken off admittedly by not by choice because he's taken or not probably your blinding starlight of the season because we're trying to ignore how good Matthew Fernandez is please everyone um it's it's it's just yeah it's it's just not you know like exactly like we said against Arsenal you look at who they bring on off the bench and who we
00:20:39
Zak
Yeah.
00:20:54
Zak
Yeah, I'll keep saying that.
00:21:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
are able to bring on off the bench and it's like and and and in this case I think there were still better options.
00:21:07
Zak
And who do we have to bring on? Well, we'll discuss that a little bit. they There were, and I think this is one of those things where, like,
00:21:19
Zak
I'm not saying as we're we're armchair managers at the end of the day. I don't know what's going on behind the scenes. I don't know what's going on in training. I don't know why those decisions necessarily were made. I'll have some final thoughts though about what can potentially be done, of how we should feel maybe going forward. After a word from our partners at the Global Sports Podcast Network.
00:21:40
Zak
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00:22:09
Zak
And in in regards to potentially purchasing people, obviously I think that Jurek was asked about, well, are you going to look to pick up some players from the Italian League? And I think you said that his answer was, no, they're not good enough for the Premier League, which says a lot.
00:22:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
I think what he actually said was probably the wordiest answer of his entire press conference that it was something along the lines of, no, I think Italian clubs look for English players because they're better.
00:22:37
Zak
But one of the one of the developments since our last podcast on transfers, Greg, is in a chaotic fan forum, Sheffield Wednesday fans discovered that Shay Charles had been recalled from loan as the owner left to take a call, took that call and went, by the way, Southampton have recalled Shay

Ownership and Player Management Concerns

00:22:56
Zak
Charles.
00:22:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, just as a side note for everyone calling for new owners and sports Republican, when I say be careful what you wish for, it could be worse.
00:22:57
Zak
but
00:23:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
If you just want to take a look at that Sheffield Wednesday fans forum as a whole, I think that really beautifully makes my point.
00:23:15
Zak
yeah it's it is really really bad like i'm happy to sell the club uh find a buyer for me if i'm happy with the price i'll sell or you cannot cross the line with this if you are not happy then don't come you don't have any right to protest you just buy the ticket to watch the game cool and that is from tweeted out uh from i think quotes from the wednesday till i die podcast which obviously are a chef wednesday podcast but it's one of those things where after seeing this because he originally i was just like oh shae charles uh here you go here's a question have you got a list of targets for january no
00:23:48
Zak
but so yeah you're right well i mean that's basically the same as us but we have recalled a very good player who whether he's ready or not to step up to the league who knows but i guess now is a better time to find out as i had said i would have preferred him to get some good minutes and game time under Sheffield Wednesday, why we've recalled him, whether it's for him to play, whether it's for us to sell him, or whether it's that we looked at the situation of what's going on at that club at the moment and went, we want to get anything that we've got to do with them away from that, which I wouldn't blame them either.
00:24:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:24:21
Zak
So, you know, potentially we've got some other players, you know, I don't know how Wellington looks really, hopefully maybe we'll see him at some point,
00:24:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
Uh, the description I read, admittedly I did not watch the under 21 game, but, uh, and in fact, I think it was Ivan Djuric who commented on it in the press conference as not fit enough.
00:24:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
So not ready yet.
00:24:42
Zak
Right, there you go. You've got Masuki at our sister club in Turkey. So like we've potentially got things that we could we could do. um very much doubt any of these things will happen.
00:24:53
Zak
I could 100% see the window closing on the 31st of January with us not signing a single player and...
00:24:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
I actually think it shuts in February this year, mate.
00:25:01
Zak
Oh, does it?
00:25:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, I think it heads slightly into February for no reason that I can justifiably think of.
00:25:03
Zak
I'll stop saying.
00:25:08
Zak
Good.

Fan Reactions and Emotional Impact

00:25:10
Zak
Well, it depends. All the big clubs need to finalise all of their... Every year I get more confused by the transfer windows. However, not the point of what I'm trying to make. As you can tell, it's more just the points I'm trying to make are frantic because there's a lot of emotion after a game like that. And it's, it's again, the to be the better side and to do all of that for so long and then for us to just do exactly what we do have and have done all season, week in, week out, it's just...
00:25:37
Zak
It's deflating in a way that I can't really describe because I really enjoyed the game. It was very entertaining and it must be very nice to be a Manchester United fan right now.
00:25:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
Ref had a good game as well.
00:25:46
Zak
I just... Yeah?
00:25:50
Zak
I guess. Apart from apart from that goal kick we got given that was definitely not a goal kick.
00:25:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
that was yeah no youre right no and there was And in fact one that didn't get given as even going off the pitch which was about three yards off I think like Rambo kicked it and was almost behind the back of his net at that point.
00:25:58
Zak
That was...
00:26:10
Zak
Yeah, sure. um So he who knows? But yeah, it's been one of those one of those games, mate, where like it could have been such a different story, and it's ended up as the same as as as it always is. And you know yeah, there's probably some fault on the manager there. Yeah, there's some fault probably elsewhere.
00:26:30
Zak
but It's just another another game that we've lost and we'll go down in the season of a game where we a season where we've lost lots and lots of games. And that's the problem is that we probably won't, you know, we probably won't mention this game in a year's to come maybe we'll think about it the next time we play Manchester United but that's it for at least probably the next two years unless we get him in a cup and hopefully we never get him in a cup again because we don't really have historically good records against them but it is unfortunately my predicted outcome was 3-0 at a Xerxes hat trick it was still a hat trick and we scored a goal except they had to be nice enough to score it for us it's just
00:27:15
Zak
just not the way that it should have been. And so shout out to all of our away fans that made that trip. You're men and women than I, because there's no way, you know, I think that anyone deserved that. But like, the players tried, I think that it just shows you the gulf of quality and gulf in the gulfs between the teams. And when we go for rebuild 2.0 slash 3.0,
00:27:38
Zak
Hopefully, it will be better and there is a chance for it to be better. There are potentially new footballing people coming in to run this club at the back end. There is room for positivity in an area that currently is full of negativity.
00:27:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
And we weren't a million miles away today either. It has to be said, we were good for 75 minutes.
00:27:54
Zak
No.
00:28:00
Zak
If we could give
00:28:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
If we can turn that extra 15 minutes up a notch and start converting some of those chances, we've got enough time left in the season to get the two wins we need.

Hopes for Premier League Survival

00:28:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yes. To not be, to not be the worst Premier League team ever.
00:28:18
Zak
And that is that is all all we can really hope for in and what has been tough season.
00:28:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
I dunno mate, we're gonna win the FA Cup on the route as well, so...
00:28:28
Zak
There's the delusion we know and love. Well, everyone, as you can tell, it's been a bit of a weird week for us with all of the weird scheduling, so I don't exactly know what's going to happen over the next couple of days. We're probably just going to build up to the forest game one way or another, and we'll have some more wonderful discussions. The frantic energy that I have will have calmed, and I'll be back to my morose-depressed self.
00:28:52
Zak
Greg will probably start to build up to another game where he thinks we're going to win 2-1 because he quote, but unquote, has a feeling. And as I will always point out,
00:28:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
I currently feel like we're going to be lucky to escape with 9 or less against Forest because I watched them play this week and ah her my notes to tonight on us on in the best part of our game said we look susceptible to a counter attack so
00:29:16
Zak
oh.

Conclusion and Fan Reflection

00:29:17
Zak
It's a little part of the fun. So, Sights fans, thank you once again for joining us for -induced sadness.
00:29:27
Zak
With some laughing on the way, I'll leave you with a quote that we always say on this podcast, it is the hope that kills you. Have a wonderful evening, morning, afternoon. and good-bye