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Episode 358: Behind the Attraction, Pirates Update & Holiday Previews
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Behind the Attraction Season 3 debuts on Disney+ with a deep dive into the history and creation of Disney Cruise Line. The Disney Store is launching a new AI Personal Shopping Assistant to help guests curate gifts and park outfits. Disneyland's Pirates of the Caribbean re-opens featuring a highly debated, next-generation audio-animatronic that transforms from a human to a skeleton. Disney Parks released an early preview of the upcoming holiday season with dates and ticket details for Mickey's Very Merry Christmas Party and Jollywood Nights. Disney confirmed that the iconic Grand Floridian lobby gingerbread house is officially discontinued.
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Introduction to 'Welcome Home' Podcast
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Episode 358 Introduction
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Hello and welcome home. This episode of welcome home is brought to you by DVC resale market. Thank you for joining us on episode 358 of welcome home a Disney parks and vacation club podcast. I'm Tom here with Trevor. How's it going Trevor? Hey, pretty good.
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Yeah, I mean, it's just it's been a been busy, huh? I mean, i I'm still...
Tom's Vacation Planning Challenges
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I was talking to people about this, how, like, I've... You know, and I've talked about on the show, like, how I'm just so not prepared at all for my vacation. And it's, like, really creeping up on me very quickly here. And I've just been so busy that I haven't even thought about it. And I really need to get on it. But... I mean, you know...
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Crazy enough, you know, our listeners have talked about this, is, you know, you can just show up and, like, see where the wind takes you. Yeah. Yeah. It'll be all right. like I'm not worried about it. Yeah. I know that that sounds crazy to me, but, i you know, i I know that is a feasible way of doing it. Yeah.
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Yeah, I think it know as long as like, you know, you you get to the hotel, i think that's like. Yeah, that's the most important part. And then after that, yeah just take us where the wind blows us. so well Once you're there, whatever. like Yeah, it'll be fine.
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It'll be. Yeah. Well, I don't know. I was earlier, though.
Discussing 'Behind the Attraction' Series
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Like, i mean so here's the thing, right? Like the planning stuff just takes up too much brainpower sometimes. Right. So like I can watch like, you know. things on disney plus or you know whatever else to just relax and try have you watched any these behind the attraction ah episodes on disney plus yeah i i've watched what i think it was the the haunted mansion one i think think i could watch all of them i think i watched all i mean because there's not that many of them they're fairly easy watches
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Yeah, I'll admit I haven't watched them because I tend to default to like shows that we have shows we watch on repeat. And i get that. Yeah. Oh, like we tend to go there first instead of watching something new. So unless I like make a a conscious effort to sit down and watch these.
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Yeah. um I'm usually not watching them. But except like, yeah, I think, yeah, I know I did watch the one for sure. And, and you know, they're great. Like the the they're well done. You it's they they've I think I've said this before, you know they remind me of like, you know, when Walt Disney was doing like all the preview stuff. Yeah. And kind of like selling it basically. Right. I think these are like yeah it's the same kind of thing, but it gives you the extra like, you know,
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nitty gritty stuff about what goes into building some of these things. But I know where you're going with this is that they um they have a season three of Behind the Attraction coming. Not coming. It's out now. It's out. I watched earlier today. Oh, you already watched it? Okay. Well, i watched I watched the first two episodes. Okay. So I watched the the first two episodes, which are about... So interestingly enough, I... What? was going to say that the the topic of this season is interesting to me because...
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I didn't consider this an attraction, but it it is I guess they are. Absolutely. So, yeah. So well it's only two. I don't know if the whole season's only two episodes because it says the stream, the two episodes special, which makes me think that it's just these two episodes and nothing more. But I don't know. I could be wrong. um But.
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you know It's about Disney Cruise Line and creation of Disney Cruise Line and you know all the stuff they do to build these ships, and which is you know crazy. ah and i mean and this is I like these a little bit ah you know differently than I liked Imagineering Story. Imagineering Story was much more like... um serious and deep and this is more kind of silly and fun kind of you know like it's the narration's funny and like you know they're just they have fun with it you know um but which is and not that they don't in the imaginary story but the imaginary story is different you know it's it's kind of a more of a serious documentary about like the history of things but this is really interesting because ah this um
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You know, they go into Disney Cruise Line and, ah you know, i didn't really see too much on there that I hadn't seen previously, to be totally honest, you know, because I do watch a lot of this stuff.
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You know, the one thing that got me, though, which I thought was and this has is such a weird observation that i I
Disney Cruise Line Economics
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gathered from this. But they, you know, one of the complaints, Trevor, that Disney Cruise Line gets a lot is that it's expensive.
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Right. mean, it is. But I, yeah, I get that. But like cruises are expensive. So I don't know. They're more, they are more expensive than other cruises though. Right. Like a fair amount more. Yeah. And one of the things they pointed out in, in behind the attraction, which I never thought of before is a lot of the reasons why they are one of the big reasons I should say why they are more expensive than the other cruise lines. Gosh, this makes so much sense. I don't know why I didn't think about it before. Right.
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Is that the other cruise lines essentially subsidize their fares by the fact that they make profits from gambling in the casinos. And Disney guy like does not have gambling.
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Yeah, so that is a very good point. Yeah. So the other cruise lines make a lot of money off of gambling so they can offer lower they can offer lower fares. ah by mean You know, also Disney Disney is also luxury, too. And so they offer, you know, a little bit of a step up.
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So, ah so there's that too. But one of the things they mentioned was because Disney does not do gambling, which is like a profit center. And this was Eisner talking about it. He was like, he was like, yeah, we said we're not going to do gambling. And like, the and he goes, basically, you know, everyone told us, well, that's where all the money is, is in gambling. Like, how going to make a profit on this? Like, ah and I mean, so then it makes sense why they have higher fares than everybody else because,
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you know I just hadn't thought about it before. It was interesting. Because yeah you know the the people arguing that you know how are you going to profit on this? I mean, clearly it works because you know the fleet is expanding. They're they're constantly you know offering more and more and more crew stuff because you know people obviously like it. you know they've They've hit a They've hit a sweet spot for offering something that, you know, it is it is very family-centric. And I think maybe that's the draw of it versus other cruise lines is that, like, the the ones that have, you know, gambling and whatnot, I know that there are...
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I noticed there are other cruise lines out there that are offering like similar type boats to Disney or, um, ships. Sorry. Yeah. trial No, you can say boats. but, but you know, they're doing like the, you know, they have like the water coasters on board and yeah they're offering like the extended entertainment, which to me, funny enough reminds me of, um,
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back in the 90s when Vegas was doing the same kind of thing where they were offering like there was some hotels and I mean they still kind of do but it's not and they try to they try to make it seem like it's a family friendly destination yeah they wish and yeah we we we went to Vegas we we did family vacations to Vegas and it was you know you know they they were definitely offering something there as like you know hey this is you know you know, MGM had a lot of cool family stuff, you know, Excalibur was great. Circus Circus was, was great. Right. And it's like, so, so, you know, it seemed like they were doing that for a while until the, yeah um until the reservoir dried up, so to speak of like families coming. Right.
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And then they kind of went back to what they were doing. So, so, you know, bringing this back to, to Disney cruises is it's like, I feel like this, it's kind of going the same way that it's like, you know, all these other cruise lines are offering their own version of it.
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But eventually, you know, people will come back to the idea. It's like, well, that's nice, but the Disney cruise is better. Right. That's kind of, but because that's I think that's kind of what happened with, with the whole Vegas thing. It was just like, yeah, the Vegas stuff is nice, but it's like, if I really want to go to a theme park though, I'll go to a theme park. I'm not going to Vegas for a theme park. Right. So exactly. oh I feel like, you know you know, Disney,
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has hit a niche for sure where it's like you know people want a particular type of cruising and yeah to your point yeah you know that you know you know it's the the uh the constant you know balking of you know you know but prices and all that it's like yeah but you know cruises are expensive you know the reason that you're getting cheap cruises elsewhere is you know look at the entire picture of what they're offering which is yeah you know gambling like you said it's it's a great way for, you know, people to, to make money, but you know, Disney is choosing to not do that. So yeah.
00:08:58
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yeah And they make their money other ways. And, and, you know, obviously, but there, there is a lot of interesting things in there. Like if you're curious to how they figure these things out and, and they are, uh, very quick to talk about all of the things in the cruise industry that they revolutionized and and did before anybody else, including you were talking about the water coaster. They were, you know, they were saying that they were the first to do that and that when they asked for it at first, they were told that they couldn't do that because it would mess up like the stable, like how the ship stabilized. There's some interesting stuff in there. You're interested like how they build stuff. But like I've watched a couple things on on Disney Cruise Line before and I don't really feel like it brought out
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too many different things that I didn't know about. um You know, so, but it's it's still good. They're well produced and they're entertaining and they're, they're really, you know, cool to look at and they, they've got ah interesting things in there. So, but I just wanted to bring that up because, you know, we haven't been talking a lot of Disney crews lately and,
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You know, I just thought it was it's interesting. I think like to your point, you know, it's a good thing to, yeah you know, it it helps these kinds of shows, you know, even though I'm, er I guess kind of like you, it's like i've I've consumed a lot of like information outside of these shows. So it's like, you know, watching them is like,
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Oh, yeah, I knew that. Oh, yeah. Yeah. but
Disney's AI Personal Shopping Assistant
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Yeah. That makes sense. Like it's it's like and and not to be like, you you know, like I know everything. I'm not like trying to like top hat and monocle. It's just more like, oh, I learned that somewhere along the way. And, you know, they're just reinforcing it.
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But, yeah you know, for anybody who's, you know, not deep diving this stuff. Yeah. these shows are actually a great way to, you know, get, get a good understanding of context. And, you know obviously it's, you know, it's Disney putting their, their spin on it. Like you said, you know, you know, they'll make sure that they highlight all the stuff that they've done and revolutionized and everything, but it also is, yeah, you know, it's a good, it's a good, just, you know, extended look into things that you already enjoy. So yeah, nothing wrong with that.
00:10:53
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So, um, Yeah, so i go check that out on Disney+. I saw a couple people talking about it, and yeah like I said, it was good. ah This next one is a little bit interesting, Trevor. I like that we are like not starting with anything Disney parks related here. And this next piece is... We are at the next topic after this one. It is. Yeah. Yeah. yeah we We'll get there. But but this one... Okay. Okay. Hold on. I would argue this is semi-parks related. it It is. It is. But also this is a hot topic. And I think we should preface this by saying, you know...
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You know, if you have any feelings about AI, you know, ever because there's there' is a lot of people that have very strong feelings about AI. You know, you're you're welcome to them.
00:11:40
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We're talking about this entirely from just what Disney is offering, not about the larger like Ecosphere of AI. Like it's, you know, that's a bigger conversation. I'm, trust me, I work in IT. t I am very aware of it. I have a lot of mixed feelings about AI, but this is just, you know, Disney is offering an AI platform.
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option Again, it's an option. They're not forcing it. so And this is also just for, as of right now, the Disney store. So they're testing out a Disney store AI personal shopping assistant because that's one, two, three, four, five, wait six words. ah That's long. They need to like come up with a fun name. D-S-A-I-P-S-A. Which, you know, yeah, i but yeah whatever. But that' that's not the official acronym. I just that's um know.
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ah But the the idea here is to to help. And, you know, so they give some examples here. Right. So like they have like a what's new thing, frozen gift ideas for a four year old outfits for a day in Magic Kingdom.
00:12:42
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Really, this in this particular. Version of context of AI, this is really just a souped up search. It is. Yeah, that's all it is. Yeah.
00:12:55
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So right I mean, so so I will say this is, you know you know, my my general feelings about AIs when when when something for or when when I go to a site and like it's immediately like, you know, like the the help section is like an AI chat bot or something. Yeah, yeah.
00:13:13
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I am immediately turned off by that because oh yeah because it's like i I don't want to talk to a machine. I want to, you know, talk to people if I need help. But this is different in that, like you said, it's it's it's a personal shopper assistant.
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The thing I will say about this is that the way that they've they've done this is, you know, it's it's targeting specifically just the Disney store stuff. It's not... It's like, you know, obviously because of that, Disney is tuning it to, you know, you know, they can use this as a means of like, you know, pushing certain things forward. yeah You know, you know, keeping that in mind is, you know, ai they can they can train the model to do whatever they want.
00:13:53
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But the other interesting thing that I actually like about this is that the AI is kind of a funny double edged sword in that. if If you know how to to talk to it correctly, so it's like the examples you brought up is like, you know, hey, saying like, I'm looking for stuff for a four year old that likes Frozen.
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Like you can potentially like do it. Searching through the Disney store is cumbersome and. Because there's just an insane amount of items. Yeah. and and And I've spent like hours like flipping through stuff going like, oh, I wish like, you know, looking for stuff for for my wife because, you know, i do I do buy stuff from the Disney store from time to time. And and it's like, you know, trying to find like obscure things can be hard. Right.
00:14:37
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Yeah. and So having having access to a tool like this where it's like. I can like be very specific about like, hey, I want to know what Gravity Falls merch you have. Like like knowing full well that it's like, you know, there there won't be a lot or you you know, whatever. But it's like without having to like dig deep down through like searches and, you know, are going through like the sections and, you know, trying to find stuff. Right. Like I don't think it's a bad thing that that they're offering this and they're trying to do.
00:15:07
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They're trying to do something with it. Right. And again, it's, you know, keep in mind that this is a very, specific use case of it. It's not like the the other like, like people people like like to conflate that like every AI agent is like an extension of like Google AI or ChatGPT or something like this is very clearly a specific model targeted very very specifically at the Disney store, which I don't think it's a bad thing, right? Yeah, I actually, i like this one example here is I actually like because it says, hi I'm looking for a gift for my sister, Sophia. She's 19, loves Mickey Mouse. My budget's $100. And it gives them all the answer, all the like Mickey Mouse gifts for someone in that age range for under $100. Like that's a great use case for that, right? Like that's because otherwise you're just kind of trying to figure it out, right? So it's making, you know, making recommendations. So that's good. I'm fine with that. I mean,
00:16:02
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I, you know, i think there are certain use cases in which AI can be helpful. I was telling you yesterday, Trevor, about how I i bought a smoker and because report it to July and how I'm going to smoke some smoke some meats and stuff. But I have no idea what I'm doing. And so I had actually done a lot of stuff with with like AI where, you know, having it help me like make out a schedule of ah how to do everything, you know, how to like And that just saved me a lot of time, you know. So there's like certain things like that that it's good at and and can be good for. And like you said, this is a fairly limited use case at this point. This is just them, you know. And first, and I have to say this is another thing, though, that they have done that ah is always, this always bothers me. And I think for the rest of the Android users out there, it bothers you as well that Disney always deprioritizes Android devices. And listen, I understand why. I understand why. Right. Like, you know, i get it ah because, you know, they have a really close relationship with with Apple. I get it.
00:17:03
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I mean, Apple, they almost merged at one point like that was in the news recently. And, you know, there was rumored for
Tech Preferences: iOS vs Android
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a while. And then Iger, I guess, was talking about it. And he said there were talks. um But, you know, and they also remember, too, though, that, you know, that the whole that that Steve Jobs was the was ah the essentially the owner of Pixar and and and was the reason, you know, Iger and Steve Jobs talking was the reason why Pixar. So there's some history. There's history. like yeah Yeah. So I get why they do it. It just is really annoying because, you know, you go to the parks and they sell phone cases and the only phone cases they ever have are for are for Apple today. Or Samsung Android devices, which, again, there's so much more than Samsung Android devices out there. I feel like I haven't even seen Samsung ones. I've just seen Apple always. like I have seen Samsung ones because i I've gone looking specifically for phone cases and I found like, oh, here's like a a Galaxy 10 phone case. And it's like, great, that doesn't help me with my Pixel. Like, it's. Yeah, but so for for to that point, though, this is only available on the Disney Store iOS app for the moment. yes which and again, I'm just going to circle back on the whole, you know you know, them being in bed with Apple about stuff. It's so crazy because...
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Like in terms of like I get that, you know, this is Disney in North America, but like on in the larger scope of the world, Android devices are far more prevalent. It's just they just happen or iOS happens to just be the the preferred platform in North America. So, like again, I get it. That's like they're kind of tailoring to to North America. But.
00:18:43
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um they they are kind of shooting themselves in the foot because there is internet, you know you know, they have a lot of international, you know, users that come and it's like, how am I, like, how much lost opportunity is there for you to not offer both? But, and and I get like the, you know, there's all the history of like, well, but you know, Steve Jobs, it's like, okay, but that was like, you know, 15, 20 years ago, I'm sure you guys can, you know, get past your exclusivity contract or whatever, if you really want it to. I think it's just, yeah.
00:19:12
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I'll be honest, I just don't think Disney cares at this point. but Yeah, I mean, i think at one point, you know, the like ah Steve Jobs, is you know the the ah her his his widow was the ah was a big shareholder. I mean, she was I think she was Disney's largest shareholder at one point. So it's, you know, so I mean, I don't know.
00:19:32
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it ah it I understand it, but it is also it is annoying. Yeah. Yeah, it is super annoying. And and again, I guess, you know, back back to the point of like, you know, and having an AI shopper option, you know, again, this this is just a beta. They're they're testing it out. They're they're trying to to figure it out.
00:19:50
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I wouldn't be surprised if, you you know, in the next six months you see it like, you know, if you're just going to the website on a browser and, you know, they'll have it. there as an option and all that.
00:20:00
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um Like i said, yeah you know, I, you know, to your point about like, you know, you you using it to learn about a slow cooker is like, you know, AI is a tool. It's, it's not meant to replace everything, but yeah you know, I think it's people are learning that and companies like, you know, Disney's learning that it's like, Hey, there are use cases for it, but it has to be very,
00:20:22
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like clearly defined use cases. And this is actually like the best example of it is like, hey, this is very specifically looking at our store, giving you the ability to, you know, do enhanced searches through it or and get recommendations and all that.
00:20:38
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Um, yeah, that's, that's fine. Uh, but like I said, I, I, and you know, you know, I, I understand, you know, people have all kinds of opinions about AI and it's, like I said, I, I have mixed feelings about it too. It's not that I'm like always like agreeing with it and it's mainly because of how people implement it. Right. Like it's, yeah know you know, I see a lot of like, just like turn it on and go kind of stuff. And it's like,
00:21:03
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ah what I see here is Disney's not doing that. Like that they're not just turning it on and saying AI for everyone. Right. Like that's, yeah. yeah Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, I, I don't think it's a bad thing. i that other than, you know, you know, give us Android users some love, but you know, that's another conversation.
00:21:21
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It is what it is. Right. Yeah. All right. well you Do you want to get to the the, is this the elephant in the room or is this the parrot in the room? so Okay. So maybe I've just been out of the loop this week. This came out like two days ago. Yeah. Okay. But when I was when i was you know getting this this week's show ready, I read this and I thought, oh, wow, this is really cool.
00:21:42
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And I didn't realize that there were people mad about this or not happy about this. And I'm like, I don't know. It just didn't strike me as a thing that people would be mad about. i um i I'm honestly shocked about it, to be totally honest. so So the context for anybody wondering is Pirates of the Caribbean in Disneyland has reopened with a brand new animatronic in the...
New Animatronic in Pirates of the Caribbean
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um It's in the scene or one of the scenes. Yeah, the it's the treasure room like...
00:22:13
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ah Towards the beginning of the ride, when you know before you go down the drop into like Tortuga, right? So it's like it's the room where it's all the skeletons were previously. But now there's an animatronic in there.
00:22:25
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So you have you have a pirate there that is like li I mean, yeah, I guess if you watch the video, like he's living and then he touches, you know, ah ah one of the cursed tabloons. Yeah. and And then turns into a skeleton, right? In front of you he turns into a skeleton. Yeah. The the problem is um the the video and, and you know, we we talked about this on Discord before before the show a little bit was, you know, the the issue I have with it is that the video that they're using to show it off does not show the effect
00:22:59
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to its best potential, I think. And and really, the the thing that struck me was I looked at it and I was immediately reminded of the old faces that were in Frozen Ever After, connected faces. this is different though. This is different. I mean, it it is and it isn't. that The problem is, is that it's close enough that, yeah like, I know what you're saying is like like the the face articulates and it moves and it's so it's not just like a flat Yeah.
00:23:27
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but it still it still has that obvious look of like this is being projected i get but again the problem is too all i've seen is videos of it from what i've heard of people who have accounted ah you know you know going on the ride the The thing that they did wrong was they got a very close-up video yeah of what ah what was going on. When you're actually on the ride, you're much further back.
00:23:52
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And, you know, the lighting and everything is different. Like, you know, you don't have, like, ah you know, a camera light right in its face. So, the the projection is better hit, I guess, is the the way to say it. Yeah.
00:24:02
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In general, anytime I've ever watched a ride video that includes projections, they they don't look as good as they do in person. They just don't. yeah and true And it's partly because of the way that, you know, because all these types of things and projections in general require there to be a dark room around it. Right. It's you need some darkness around that. Right. or you know.
00:24:22
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any even if it's just like the Even if you just watch a video of like Happily Ever After, it does not look as good on on a video as when you're there and seeing the projections on the castle in real life. right like It's not even close. right And this is the same kind of thing. And to me, like you know looking at it, there's some other I shared some other videos. There's some other videos that are better.
00:24:44
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ah Where it really it. I think it looks like a really great effect. I think it looks looks awesome, but also just like and we actually talked about the patent behind this Trevor. I don't know when ah months ago where what they're doing here is they are ah they are real time projection mapping onto a moving object.
00:25:03
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which is kind of crazy if you actually think about that. It is not a yeah thing to accomplish um because it is how it's different than the frozen ones. Trevor is it's not, they're not doing the rear projection from inside the face. They're doing it from, from outside the face and tracking it and, and, ah and ah you know, and, and making it move along with the figure. So it's um it's the, the tech is very different, right? And it's, it's the way they're doing this is incredibly cool to me.
00:25:31
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um i don't know i just thought it looked i some of the videos i saw like the one that like if you look at the tech radar article um that that was put out i think these videos look great i think it looks really really good uh i think but like i said before part of the problem like you talked about is anytime you have more light than is you know you're that you're supposed to facing these things it washes it out and so it looks not as real as it could.
00:25:58
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But there are videos that exist that look pretty good ah on this. And I i think it's so i think it's awesome. i i Yeah. Sorry, I agree with you, Tom, but I'm going to point something out because, you know, as you were explaining all that and you were explaining the, um you know you know, the projection technology and everything that they're doing, yeah the the funny thing is, is that it's this is kind of...
00:26:23
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um suffering from the same problem as Dinoland in that, you know, so so the the way that, yeah you know, the the detail, that the thought that went into it is there, but the final product doesn't get conveyed as well. like like Or the way I equate it is like like, you know, like I said, a lot of people are looking at the same as like Frozen Ever After going like, oh, that's like It's like a cheaper... like like you know They just replaced all that stuff and froze never after because it looked cheap and they replaced it with proper stuff. Why are they not doing the same thing here? Why is it you know you know why are they going back to this is what it feels like.
00:27:00
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And you're right. It's a misconception of... what is actually going on but it's very hard to emphasize that because again people don't get yeah you know how like how they do this stuff or it's it you know when when you're dealing with projections they don't understand front versus rear projection and all of that and like you said it's it's kind of the same problem as dino land where it's like dino land it was a very well thought out space but the end result ended up making it look cheap but it was It was because of the choices that they made. yeah Like, it's so it's kind of like, i you know, you know, the same. I do look like I do look at it as the the next version of that rear projection face thing they were doing. Right. Like, because. Yeah. When you looked at that, you could clearly feel like it was a screen. I feel like especially when you're looking at certain videos of this, that it doesn't look like a screen to me. like there's there's a When it's darker, yes. yeah Absolutely. because Because the problem is is that it's masking the the the skeleton transformation.
00:28:00
Speaker
there is There's negative space in it. And yeah yeah and when when you can clearly see like the the surface that's being mapped onto, it just looks like a like a projection. It just looks like a picture.
00:28:12
Speaker
But if it again, if the if the lighting is low enough, it does it does blend into the background and it looks correct. Yeah. So, yeah, i I get what you're saying. But like I said, I I have a hard time with it because it's like they they did something that, you know, without understanding the deeper context of it, it looks like they they're repeating a mistake.
00:28:35
Speaker
The other issue I have with it, too, is where they chose to put it in the ride um is. it's that entire front scene is like the, it's all the dead pirates. It's all the skeletons. Right. Yeah.
00:28:50
Speaker
Yeah. And the silence of that, um, that whole space is kind of what does the storytelling. So having, having like the, like, Oh, you know, this guy's touching the the curse to blue. yeah You know, it's, it's, you know, it's doing a callback to the movies basically. Right. Like it's kind of retconning for, for the movies.
00:29:10
Speaker
Um, the, the problem is, is that, or And again, i'm not I'm not going to be like a purist of like, this is like breaking the the chronological storytelling of the ride or anything, but it is jarring in the fact that the entire rest of that scene is very...
00:29:30
Speaker
limited motion, very silent. And then all of a sudden you have like just one animatronic, like, you know, he he could be like almost disco dancing in the corner. Like it's, it's, it's just very like, it's a little too over the top. Like, and and it kind of goes back to, you and I know, I know I say this all the time, but it's like, just because you can doesn't mean you should is, is kind of how I feel about it. Like, I feel like they could have,
00:30:00
Speaker
They could have maybe like, or again, to be fair, I need i need to actually ride the ride. And I know, yeah you know, we we talked about this as, you know, you know, we need to ride the ride to kind of see how it flows. But I feel like, you know, it could be something that like, you know, leads like it almost feels like they should have done something like right before the drop where like it, you know, it leads into like the next scene.
00:30:20
Speaker
But because it's like kind of in the middle of it or I'm pretty sure it's in the middle or or towards the end of that scene. it doesn't feel right to me. Okay. And that, and that's, and, and I know that's a hard thing to convey. Like I'm, I'm i'm not, I'm not hating on this. I'm not saying that, ah you know, it's awful and they should take it out, but it's like, I feel like sometimes it it feels like,
00:30:44
Speaker
they They put in these things, and it's to show off new technology, but sometimes it's tone deaf to the larger storytelling of the ride, which I do hold with higher priority, I guess. And I'm not saying that everybody else should. It's just for me personally, I like the i like understanding the flow of the story. And when they kind of throw stuff in the middle that didn't need to be there, that doesn't sit well for me.
00:31:08
Speaker
i But I would argue that they see this as enhancing the storytelling and not... did not have not changing it like in a bad way. yeah That's fair. i'm looking at it yeah like And again, I guess like I need to see it too. Like like i I get that. But just looking at it from the outside and the initial impressions is it's like Why did you need to change that?
00:31:30
Speaker
Like, like what what was wrong with that particular part? Right. Or what what needed to be enhanced, I guess, is the the question I have. And I feel like I feel like, again, back to the point of like Dinoland is it's like if you have to like explain it.
00:31:46
Speaker
but Like after the fact. It wasn't good storytelling in the first place. Yeah, I mean, i don't i don't know. I just, I don't think that, I think, I don't think that they're shoehorning anything here. That's, ah but I mean, i guess I understand what you're saying, but I could also see it as they're they're explaining, you know, why the skeletons exist there, right? Like, you know why the skeletons existed before, and now they're showing you why how why the skeletons are were there. you know I mean, you're right. And maybe that's, maybe that's the intent is you know, you know, it's not that,
00:32:21
Speaker
all these people just miraculously died in this room in particular positions and whatnot. It was, you know, you know, Hey, the, the coin is, you know, the curse treasure is, is the reason fair. That's, that's exactly what I'm saying. Like that's, yeah that to me is like adding to the story. Like you didn't know why before now, you know, and i mean I guess the thing was for me, I, I never, I didn't feel like I needed to ask why they were there. Yeah.
00:32:47
Speaker
like And so this is going back to like, like, you know, as a child, right. And I don't, I'm, I'm, I'm being that person right now and I don't like it, but you know as a child riding pirates of the Caribbean, all I saw was a cool skeletons. Like, like and that was the end of it. Like it did, I didn't need to know like why they were there, but I get, yeah, it you know, it is, it is another form of expedition or exposition. yes I'm good with words. I swear. Yeah. Um,
00:33:15
Speaker
And yeah, i I get it. Like it's just I think the problem is the way that it was introduced to me. Sure. Is hitting me the wrong way. And that's and and it's the video that they released about it didn't do it any favors. Yeah. And I think that's the biggest thing for me is it's like if you're going to show something off, show it off the way that it's supposed to be presented.
00:33:38
Speaker
Don't put extra lights on it. Don't like like. Especially if it's like an element of a ride, like do it in the right lighting. Don't put a camera lens on it where it's like you where it's screwing up the lighting because yeah that to me immediately put a bad taste in my mouth. And I think that's behind the scenes look though at it, you know, like it was like a broader thing and it was, you know, but I understand what you're saying. I just,
00:34:00
Speaker
i would i'm just like i I saw it and I was like, oh, well, they're they're explaining why everyone there is a skeleton, like how all the skeletons got there. Like, that makes perfect sense to me.
00:34:11
Speaker
I also, i listen, I don't like the the whole thing where people go, well, what was the life he'd do X, Y, and Z? Because it's, you know, because it's not, we don't know anything, right? But at the same time, I believe if this technology existed in that time, they would absolutely have this in the in the original Pirates the Caribbean now. I just think they would. i you know, they keep moving these things forward and keep enhancing, you know, and, and listen, i think there's a certain amount of, it's always difficult whenever they're updating one of these rides that is legendary classic,
00:34:39
Speaker
and they put new things in it it it yeah it. A lot of people have issues with that. And I understand it, because like you lived with this this one way the entire time, and to you it doesn't need to change, right? But yeah, I don't know. I just think to you know to to keep up in the world, they gotta do stuff like this. But, i you know, it's like the same problem that they had with the hatbox ghost. And and i'm I'm fully aware of that. is you know yeah know again i'm not You know, I'm saying all these things just, you know, I'm giving just my initial feelings on it. and And I'm not, again, you know, any, like, you know, even, you know, you saying that, you know, it's great. You know, I agree with you on some levels. I just...
00:35:17
Speaker
I have my own criteria of what it is. The funny thing is, this versus the hatbox ghost. The funny thing is, in Disneyland, the hatbox ghost is actually in a great spot because he's right as come out the attic.
00:35:33
Speaker
um attic And so he's like right before you go down into into the graveyard. Whereas in Disney World, they put him in next to the ah the infinity hallway with the the the candelabra.
00:35:46
Speaker
And yeah I feel like in Disney World, they they they missed on on the location with him there. like And like a lot of people have said, like it's not it's not awful. It's not like, you know, it ruins my immersion of the rise. Just kind of like okay, like did he need to go there is kind of my thing. And and this is my same problem that I have with this animatronic and pirates is it's like, did that scene need... Did he need to go there? Right? Like, it's... Yeah, yeah. And, yeah, you're right. Like, and the other thing, too, is it's like, know, once you get past the initial shock of it, it's like, like anything else, like, I'm sure people...
00:36:19
Speaker
you know, forget that, you know, there there used to be the, um when you come down the the drop, there was like, they had the ah um the fog wall where there was a projection of Blackbeard and Davy Jones and all that kind of stuff. and it's like, I wasn't in the ride initially. And they just put that there for, for you know you know, the movie stuff. Same thing with adding the Jack Sparrow animatronics, which again, yeah they better blended into the ride because, you know, They were put into scenes, but, you know, when you really look at it, he does stand out because it's Johnny Depp and then a bunch of, like, cartoonish characters around him. Like, like they don't...
00:36:55
Speaker
Yeah, it doesn't make sense. But but everyone's more fine with it than this. Right. It also it also reminds me and Becky brought this up in the in the discord is like, you know, you saw so many people making fun of the Walt animatronic on the Internet. And then the people that actually went and saw it like, oh, it looked pretty good. like you know And it's like, i think it's so hard to capture things on video when you're in instead of doing it, you know, and I think that is just a big thing, you know.
00:37:24
Speaker
I think maybe there needs to be more of a conversation with the people who are doing the video capturing than anything. It's hard, to though. It's hard to capture these things, though. Yeah. But, okay, let me argue this, all right?
00:37:36
Speaker
If you're being hired by Disney to do, you know, any kind of media production, you should have knowledge of lighting. You should have knowledge of composition. You should have knowledge of, like, how these things get presented. course.
00:37:50
Speaker
You should know enough how to review a video and be like, it looks like he's standing weird or, you know, that angle doesn't do it any favors. like Like, even again, this animatronic is like sticking the camera that it's looking like up his nose because that's what it is. it's like the the angle is like from down below, like, I guess kind of where the boat is. But it's because it's where the boat is. That's what they say in the article. But it's way closer than it. Like it's zoomed in.
00:38:15
Speaker
or closer or whatever. That's the conceit of the video, right? So, yeah, I get it. You're shooting up his nose and yeah because of that, it's the same, it's the equivalent of like, you know if I'm taking a picture on my camera, do I, you know, do I put it down and look down on my camera? Does that look great? No. yeah Like, yeah like i you know,
00:38:35
Speaker
Yeah, sorry and I get it. I think I think they they they're not doing themselves any favors by the way that they're presenting these things. So I just I think I think what happens is and this is this happens all the time. We do we we call this right. You remember when we first started the podcast 10 years ago at this point. Almost. remember. um Yeah, I remember Happily Ever After was replacing um wishes placing Wishes. And everybody was mad about it. Like the whole Internet was mad about it. Right. A whole Disney Internet was mad about it And I remember saying very specifically, i you know, I can't wait for Happily Ever After to go for a while and for them to take that away. And then everyone's going to be mad about that and want that back and forget that Wishes even existed. And that happened. Yeah. We saw that happen in real time because what happens is things change. People don't like change.
00:39:22
Speaker
And then you kind of get used to things or you you experience them and it and it becomes like the new memory. You know, it's now this is the way it's always been in your head, even though, you know, it hasn't been always that way. You know what i mean? It's just it's a it's it's that thing of change that that is difficult for everyone. So I'm not even like saying anyone upset about this is wrong.
00:39:42
Speaker
I think I understand, you know, the concern about changing these things, especially with like Disneyland and, and you know, what because people hold it a little more sacred than than most things. Right. As far as like Disney goes.
00:39:56
Speaker
ah But I don't know. I just I always look back at, ah you know, Walt Disney said we keep moving forward. And and he was. ah very much a futurist and wanted the latest technology and created a lot of that technology always like a lot. And to me, every time they do something like this, that to me is like kind of fulfilling Walt's vision of these things, innovating, doing new things,
00:40:19
Speaker
plussing up the attractions trying to tell better stories and listen i so i'm not like like disagreeing with anyone here and i obviously don't have a soft spot for disneyland right because i because i didn't like grow going there yeah it's a bit of a different it's a different thing yeah yeah yeah so like i get it i so i understand i was just surprised by it because i see these things that i was like whoa that's really cool like they should do more of that And actually they are doing more of that, Trevor, because there's there's another part to this too.
00:40:46
Speaker
um This is kind of just the first of a lot of things. They're they're saying that this animatronic is a platform for different and for more ah animatronics that ah can emote better, you know can do things like you know cry and you know do just do say blush with that they can't do now. right and But the other part of this is they're just building a whole lot of new kinds of robots too.
00:41:09
Speaker
ah and And some of those are, you know, really interesting, ah you know, so that's it's they've got the, you know, obviously the new animatronics, but they show in this video that we're looking at um ah a animatronic manta ray.
00:41:24
Speaker
which is clearly something they would use for something Moana related. But it's it's a Manta Ray animatronic in the water that swims around and they have a fully robotic dolphin that they have built, like, which is nuts.
00:41:43
Speaker
Right? Yeah. and And like, you're right. The the thing is, is that Yes, this stuff is going to continue coming. Yeah. I i think the fair thing, though, is, yeah you know, these things need to not be made in a bubble, i guess. Like it's the the hard part is, yeah you know, look like you said, you know, looking at the technology, look at how looking at how they're doing, you know, the articulation, everything. It's like this is amazing. This is a good way to plus up these attractions and, you know, you know, make things better. better in the parks but it's yeah I don't know it again it's it's such a some sometimes I feel like that you know it's
00:42:26
Speaker
It's the same kind of thing as, you know, when when you when you have a joke with your friends where it's like, you know, everybody gets the joke and, you know, you know, within your friend group, you all you know, you can just say like, you know, you refer back to whatever and everyone like laughs or gets it. But then somebody who's outside of the group is like, you know, you know, either takes it the wrong way or doesn't get the joke or whatever.
00:42:52
Speaker
Disney Imaginary kind of has the same problem, if you think about it. Like, you know, I feel like a lot of times these things, like, they they build them and it's like everybody in the room is convinced that it's like, hey, this is like the greatest thing ever, but it doesn't hit with people the same way because we don't all have the extended context and the extended, like,
00:43:14
Speaker
history of what it was or what where it came from, right? like does it Does that make sense? I i don't know. i don't But I don't feel like I need, like, I mean, if I didn't know that they were building animatronic dolphins and manta rays and I saw, ah you know, the...
00:43:28
Speaker
a manta ray from Moana just swimming around in a Disney Disney waterway. i mean, I think I'd be pretty amazed by that. Like, I think that I would look at that and go, wow, if I'm pretty cool, like, again, if if it's done correctly, yeah, fair. You're you're right. yeah You know, it should it should be something that, you know, without context, you just see it and you're like, wow, that was amazing.
00:43:48
Speaker
I'd feel that way about this animatronic in Pirates 2, though. If I didn't know anything about it, I would just be, wow, that's really cool. Yeah, like I said, I'll be honest. that My initial reaction to it was i I immediately remembered the stuff from Frozen. And that yeah and I think that kind of and like that kind of hurt it, unfortunately. Yeah.
00:44:06
Speaker
But, I mean, even like this, but you're you like you're even down on these Manta Ray robots and the dolphin thing. I'm not hating on the Manta Ray robots. I'm just saying that, like, it's...
00:44:18
Speaker
I don't know. it like
00:44:21
Speaker
There's a lot of stuff that looks good when when they're developing it, and then when it actually gets to like in the parks, it just doesn't hit the right way. like I guess I'm...
00:44:33
Speaker
For me, that's kind of the double-edged sword of, like, looking at the behind-the-scenes stuff is that I see it and it's like, oh, you know, whatever they were developing, like, it looks amazing. But then, you know you know, the one that makes it to the park, you know, there was a technical reason why it couldn't move the way that it does in in the preview.
R&D Innovations vs Park Attractions
00:44:48
Speaker
And it just ends up looking like a floaty in the water, right? Yeah. Like, it like and again, i'm not I'm not trying to, like... hate on everything. i'm I'm really not. I'm just i've I've seen the pattern before is I think the problem for me and And i'm I'm skeptical until I'm actually standing there looking at it is probably the best I can give at the moment. Yeah, I mean, I just, I can't think of a whole lot of examples of of when that has occurred for me. But, um you know, because I mean. I think to like, you know, the yeah the um Galaxy's Edge opening when, you know, there was talk of there being like,
00:45:29
Speaker
The roaming droids. Yeah. Roaming droids. and And, you know, you know, there was, you know, the the the drone um X-Wing fighter, which they had at the opening and it was like, oh, my gosh, are they going to this? It's no, that was just for that one thing. And you're never going to see it again. Yeah.
00:45:44
Speaker
yeah And it's like, well, I think Universal also figured out really quickly that that was going to be not feasible because they remember they came out and said they were going to have those dragons flying around all day. And that yeah still hasn't happened. And so it's so that's challenging. so So that's my point with that is that it's like, you know, yeah a lot of things are built in a bubble in ah Imagineering and they don't always scale out to like the parks the way that you think they should. well These things, though, too, that we're talking about right now a lot of this is like R&D, right? So it's not necessarily things that will even make it to the park. It's things that they're building because they want to try new things. and But one of the things they're saying here with the Moana robot and and this dolphin thing, it says, you know, it mentions that the...
00:46:24
Speaker
parks, the waterways within the parks are, you know, not really utilized during the day. They just kind of sit there. And so the thought, you know, you can make these synchronized daytime shows that, and you know, involve like this manta ray and, you know, this dolphin and and some of this other stuff that they're they're building. And they also too, they also mentioned a, what was it? Oh, it's a a floating ah um ah ah food cart.
00:46:52
Speaker
Did you see this? a floating food cart? They didn't show a ah picture of it, but apparently it's it's been seen. ah It's a hovering ah hovering droids ah delivering beverages at ah at a food car o court in ah in a Galaxy's Edge potentially at some point. Oh, so so instead of people bringing your food out, it's kind of kind of like DoorDash drone delivery. Yeah, but hovering. like So, yeah, like they're you utilizing, ah you know, magnets and stuff to make them hover and ah and stuff. So, I mean, if that comes to fruition, that would be amazing, too. So, i listen, there's a lot of cool stuff coming out. it i i love i love all this stuff. I think i think they're really trying hard to
00:47:31
Speaker
to really revolutionize and and do some things that are, are really, uh, you know, innovative. So I, I think this is, this kind of stuff is great. They should be striving to do this. So that, that's just me though. I mean, I, I agree. like I said, I, it's, I, I agree with you. Like I said, that the thing for me is the, where it goes from r and D to the, how it lands in the parks. That's the part that I feel,
00:47:58
Speaker
or That's the part I get stuck on. Just because... like i And I get because it's like, you know, there's always... We don't see all the like challenges and everything that they go through to build these things. Right. And yeah and sometimes it's, you know, you know, the the way that they want to do it in R&D just doesn't work because, you know, for reason X. And we don't always get to see and hear that, you know, understandably, you don't get to hear of all the challenges that yeah they face along the way. So, you know, but and sorry, I know I sound like I'm being like the the pessimistic one, but I feel like.
00:48:29
Speaker
I feel like I just, I try to temper my own expectations so that I don't go into it feeling like, You know, like even this animatronic, it's like, you know, if it's better than I expected, then it's a plus. But if I go in having a very high level of expectation and I'm disappointed, then... Yeah, I get Then I don't want that, right? like But I think the best example of the R&D stuff translating to the parks is probably the Spider-Man animatronic that flies over, ah you know, in in Disneyland. I mean... Yes. It fails sometimes, of course, but... i but
00:49:01
Speaker
um I immediately replayed the video in my head where he where failed yeah where he missed. and and was it it's it But, you know, this we always if it works. Ninety nine. know Nine percent of the time. Everyone pays attention to the point one percent. right Yeah, that's the problem. Everyone loves seeing the the drama and the negative. And yes, that thing probably shoots off like 20 times a day and it's failed like a handful of times. But that's the thing that everybody always looks i like. Come on.
00:49:27
Speaker
I'm in the same boat with my job where, you know, we we do stuff. I actually had a conversation this week where we were doing a deployment. It was like, hey, we we deploy this out to hundreds of users. And they were like, but there was like three users that had an issue. And it's like, yeah, but we deployed it to 300 users. like its Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. But yeah anyway, I mean, i listen, I think this kind of I think this this stuff makes me excited even more for the future of what they're they're planning. So.
Anticipation for Park Updates
00:49:54
Speaker
I think the the thing for me is that I, you know, I've I have a trip planned next year to Florida and, you know, i'm I'm not going to Disneyland anytime soon The interesting thing is there is there is a ton of stuff that has changed at Disney. And and I know that and I know I've not been in quite some time. And, you know, by the time I go back, it's going to be.
00:50:16
Speaker
like there there's going to be so much new stuff that it's going to feel like a new park like a whole new place now yeah which is what they try to do because i you know and and again you know you know even me saying earlier you know i i do have my memories stuck in my head and and i don't try to go by like but this is the way it was when i was 12 because it's like that doesn't matter it's you know it's how it is now and and and actually you know i'm i'm gonna put this one out here because i i saw some of the hate about this when uh when Tiana's Bayou Adventure opened up.
00:50:45
Speaker
um so So some people are like, well, you know you know, Splash Mountain was better. like like You know, you know the the animatronics were better, whatever. What? That's nonsense. Well, so so the thing I will say, the music in ah Tiana's, I feel, is a vibe. Like, it is it is so much better. The scenes that go with the music, like, especially after, like, the the drop with the dip and everything, like...
00:51:10
Speaker
way better and i'm speaking this from the from the disney world perspective by the way i haven't written the disneyland one but i assume it will be like similar and but there was a lot of people that that yeah at the time and i know like it's the internet and people love hating on things um there was a lot of hate about it i thought it was awesome i i think it's awesome and and i i now have i have both versions of the ride living rent free in my head now Which is interesting because it's like i i you can you can have both,
Reactions to New Attractions
00:51:40
Speaker
right? like I mean, I don't even think you can make a real argument to say that the old animatronics were better. better Like, who could make that argument and keep a straight face? I'm not talking about the animatronics. I'm talking about the so i'm talking about the whole package of the rides. You started with the animatronics, because i was and that's why was like, really? Somebody said that? Fair, yeah. Those animatronics in the old ride were literally throwaway animatronics. like They were literally, you know, old and, yeah. Yeah, they were recycled from previous rides and whatnot. and
00:52:10
Speaker
But, no, it wasn sir it wasn't just the animatronics. It was the whole thing. It was people that were, like, you know, you know complaining that, like, um I think one of the gator animatronics, like, failed early on and stuff like that. in handbreak And, yeah, but ah but, you know, again, that stuff happens. But,
00:52:29
Speaker
The general sentiment of the ride was like, you know, oh, I liked, i you know, I liked the music in Splash Mountain. I liked the way that, you know, you know, the the story played out because it it did follow like a particular story. Tiana's does as well. It's just it doesn't follow the story of the movie. It's a different story. It's like an extended story.
00:52:48
Speaker
And but, you know, in and of itself, it's good. Like, ah you know, you know, anybody who says that it's not, you know, you haven't. Yeah, that's exactly what we're talking about. Yeah. Right. It's like yeah people don't like the change. They have their they have that they have the comfortable thing they've been doing for years and years and years. And then you change something and they're like, oh, it's not the thing I loved for years and years and years. And then eventually it becomes the thing that you that you do love because it's the new thing that you. And but like you also look at it, too.
00:53:16
Speaker
My daughter will never know what Splash Mountain is. in her mind, Tiana is the only ride that exists, right? That's true. There's never been a ride before that, right? like And that's part of why they do these things, to make them relevant to a new generation, and I understand that. just for my son yeah For my son, he so he's not ridden Tiana's yet, um so he only has memories of Splash Mountain because it was me and my brother that went last year. My son didn't come with us, so the next time we go, he's going to get to ride it and you know you know see what what's changed. What's changed, yeah. But the funny thing for him is that
00:53:49
Speaker
Splash Mountain is going to become a fever dream. yeah yeah like like kid Yeah. You know, he will have memories of it when he was a kid, but not like, but it'll be like, a was it really that way? Yeah. I mean, yeah. It's like, I mean, you know, you you don't, you don't hear people talking about, you know, World of Motion anymore. You hear people talking about Test Track, right? World of Motion didn't exist as far as people are concerned. You know, like it's. Yeah, we we will all get over it.
00:54:15
Speaker
Yeah, you do. i just think I just think Disney, like, or I guess, you know, me being not able to experience these things firsthand when they first come out, Disney needs to do just a slightly better job of selling it, I guess, is the only thing. that That's my only takeaway from this is that they didn't sell it as well as Where I'm going to disagree with you on it is I don't think they were trying to sell it with this because it was for TechRadar, which is a tech site. They were talking about the tech behind it.
00:54:43
Speaker
You know what i mean? It wasn't like a. I wasn't looking at the TechRadar stuff when I first saw it. It was. yeah it was on i Yeah. I was looking like the Disney Parks advertisement of it, which well they didn't do a great job of it. Fair. I'm just yeah mean it was the I the video that I shared out from Instagram was was is from TechRadar, right? Like they posted it. And so, yeah, I think maybe that's where the disconnect is, because what I saw was it was not TechRadar. It was I'm actually need to go back and I'll have to go through my history. I'm pretty sure it was it was a Disney Parks one because they were like. They might have just like re you know re-shared it or whatever, and that could be it. But I just didn't – I didn't view it as them marketing it. I viewed that it as them doing an article about the – or doing a ah thing about the tech that they were we were doing. yeah so
00:55:28
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There was a – like i guess it wasn't just covered by TechRadar. Like there was a bunch of people – recording, commenting. And that's the other thing too, is like people doing like, oh, check out my video of this. and And again, it's the same problem of like, you know, you get on the ride, you have your flash on and your phone because you're trying to record and you don't have low light settings, which by the way, most phones do have low light settings. Learn to use them. Yeah.
00:55:49
Speaker
No, but you shouldn't be that person to have your flash on. Yeah. if If you've got your flashlight on and you're recording on the ride, what are you doing? Yeah, get off the ride. Like I, I seriously, I, If anybody does this, I want you to hear my voice in your head saying, what are you doing? What are you doing? Like turn turn off the light. You have low light settings. You're the worst. Like, yeah, don't do that. yeah We talked about this way longer than I anticipated. i know. Come on. We knew that. But we we do need to do our ad. yeah And we do have one more thing to talk about. Yeah, let's let's do that.
00:56:19
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Let's do that.
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00:57:06
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Well, Trevor, it's June, so you know what that means. It's time to talk about Christmas. Yeah. Like, listen, I understand why they do these things.
Holiday Events and Announcements
00:57:16
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It's been June. Eggnog. Yeah, I understand why they do these things, right? Because people plan their vacations pretty far in advance. Absolutely. I'm a person and not me. So I mean, I'm planning 11 months out most times. So yeah, this is definitely like stuff I would be factoring in my planning.
00:57:34
Speaker
Yeah, and also because the tickets go on sale pretty early. I mean, tickets go on sale July 9th for Jollywood. We're starting with Jollywood here. Yeah. ah So, I mean, that's that's just ah two weeks away, basically.
00:57:46
Speaker
Right? So, I mean, that's that's really soon. And, I mean, the first Jollywood Nights is going to be starting November 7th this year. It runs until January 5th.
00:57:56
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January 5th. Yep. January 5th. So resort guests at ah the ah the Disney Resorts Collection Hotels in Swan and Dolphin and Shades of Green have access to tickets July 9th, July 16th general on sale.
00:58:11
Speaker
I know Jollywood has been I feel like Jollywood has been getting kind of better and better since it debuted. I remember that first one was not great and a lot of people were mad about it and didn't like it. Yeah. But made it a lot better since then. It's found its stride. It's it's giving that like 1950s glam like yeah kind of Christmas, which I think a lot of people appreciate as as a, you know, as an option for your your Christmas celebrations. Absolutely. And ah they they have mentioned ah here to the characters. And this is just the beginning, by the way. So this is they're just giving us this information, you know, to start off as a tease. And there's going to be obviously a lot more. But ah the characters are Phineas and Ferb, Max Goofus, Powerline, Chippendale, Rescue Rangers, which is, you know, awesome that they're doing the Rescue Ranger, Chippendale, Stitch, Justice, Santa, Baloo and King Louie.
00:59:01
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ah The Mandalorian and Grogu Chewbacca celebrating life day, which is a specific Chewbacca. Yeah. mean And should be there. you know, yeah life day is important. yeah Life day. You kind of got to celebrate life day. Lotso from Toy Story 3.
00:59:15
Speaker
Interesting inclusion of a villain. Interesting poll. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's a villain. I mean, OK. But whatever. Party source Rex. Again, again, interesting poll, but I appreciate it. I like party source Rex. Love the fact that Bing Bong is going to be there. Yeah. Huge fan of Bing Bong, and Bing Bong should be there.
00:59:32
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ah Duffy. All right. Got some Duffy going on at Hollywood Studios. ah Scrooge McDuck, Donald Duck, Daisy Duck, Goofy, Pluto, and of course, Mickey Mouse and Minnie Mouse. So i like how I like how they have Max or Powerline Max, but Goofy gets paired up with Pluto.
00:59:51
Speaker
That is kind of weird. What's going on there? That is odd. That is odd. But as of right now, it seems like the I'm sure there's going to be new things. um But as of right now, it looks like ah pretty much similar to last year.
01:00:04
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Uh, so I, I don't think they've said anything new in here. So we can, I think we can move on to Mickey's very Merry Christmas party. Yep. but And yeah, you know, as we, as we get more information, we'll, you know, we'll show that out. Preview. So leave you so yeah this is very, very early preview stuff. So, but they're selling tickets in a couple of weeks here. So, I mean, I don't remember them selling tickets this early in the past, but I just could not be remembering correctly. My, my dates are all over the place. so I feel that they were because I, I remember buying tickets for very Merry Christmas party. Like,
01:00:34
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in the middle of the year. Yeah. You know, you're probably right about that. Yeah. ah So Merry Christmas Party is going to start on the 8th and on December 22nd. ah So we've got a bunch of dates in there. ah They will go on sale July 9th for resort guests, July 16th for regular, you know, non, non, ah non resor on non resort guests. I feel like that's, that's just their general, like Christmas stuff is going to go on sale July 9th. If you have a reservation yeah across the board. Yeah. Yeah, exactly.
01:01:04
Speaker
Uh, again, i don't see anything particularly different here. Uh, there's going to be, you know, I, I'm sure there's going to be new things, uh, and obviously exclusive merch and, you know, they're going to put out, uh, you know, different food items like they always do, which we will certainly talk about, uh, once those are out, but, uh, you know, really not a whole lot of, uh, new details here. I mean, they do mention that,
01:01:27
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ah the couple characters that they've confirmed, which are Anna and Elsa, Jack Skellington, ah as Santa and Sally, and then Mickey Mouse Minnie Mouse, of course. ah But that's really it for right now. I assume there will be a lot more coming for that.
01:01:44
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Yeah, it's um kind of interesting, too, is towards the bottom of this article, they have, ah they mentioned rides available. And they they talk about, like, the ones that will have the specific holiday theme overlays. So, like, Space Mountain, Tomorrowland, Speedway, all that. And then they say, in addition, here's just a few of the classic attractions that will be available for guests during the party. They lift stuff about five different attractions, and then they say and more. I wonder if they're...
01:02:10
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I wonder if they're doing that that way because maybe there's some plans for possibly some maintenance or something going on. And also, you know, factoring in that, like, you know, the area around, you know, former Rivers of America is under construction.
01:02:23
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I feel like they're they're very carefully saying, yeah, there'll be stuff, but maybe not what you think is going to be there. I mean, usually they take stuff down for for renovations like or ah refurbishments in like January, I feel like, because it's busy during the holidays. you know but yeah i think it's a little different, though, because of the construction going on. I feel like they're they're just trying to... They're hedging a little bit, yeah. Yeah, yeah you know they're covering themselves that you know because some people, you know there's always somebody that will be like, well, I booked this back in July and you promised that you know I could ride...
01:02:57
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you know, Tiana's and it was closed that day. It's like, okay, really? Like, yeah. Yeah. We also have the dates for, we have the dates for the Epcot International Festival of the Holidays, which is November December 30th, a very short one.
01:03:16
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I'm not a short I mean ah shorter than the Festival of the Arts it's you know this one's just a month yeah but I wish it was longer because yeah we do want to go and see it but it's yeah it's very late and late in the year I will say that the decor during that time is pretty amazing and yes that's why we want to go because yeah yeah yeah and the Spaceship Earth ah gingerbread ah house which we saw last year We saw it somewhere. ah And it was, it was, it's pretty awesome. I mean, I'm not, I'm not gonna lie. It's pretty great.
01:03:47
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So, and then and of course the return of candlelight processional and all the stuff you're used to, all the storytellers and all those, you know, living with the land overlay and, you know, all that fun stuff.
01:04:01
Speaker
ah So obviously we'll have more when that comes closer to, but, And then just around around the resort, right? So ah Christmas this year, you know, because as we know, the holidays start at a different time at Disney than anywhere else. And ah in ah just, you know, listen, when I'm there in August, ah Halloween will be in in in full swing. I mean, the Christmas stores open 24-7, 365 in in Well, not 24-7, but yeah. mean Well, it might as well be 24-7. It's always open.
01:04:36
Speaker
so was an yeah, I mean, you know they they're they're always selling Christmas stuff. Yeah, yeah. but ah so So the holidays start for Magic Kingdom on November 13th and through January 6th. So that's when we get all the decor and everything.
01:04:49
Speaker
ah And, you know, there's ah again, this is they're not they're not necessarily announcing anything new here. But one of the things and it's not actually in here, but ah we you know, we should probably talk about because it it was a big point of discussion in the discord.
Gingerbread House Changes at Grand Floridian
01:05:06
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And so I kind of take that as something that people care about is whenever there's a lot of discussion in our discord is ah that the gingerbread house at Grand Floridian will not be returning.
01:05:17
Speaker
Yes. Ever again. or yeah Well, no, I wouldn't say ever again. i mean, we never say never. We never say never, but it's been discontinued. The previous incarnation of the gingerbread house is not going to happen anymore. And I i feel or I forgot about this, that, you know, they they had built that whole bar in the lobby and everything that, you know, it makes sense now that they just there's not space for it. Sure. Unfortunately. Yeah.
01:05:42
Speaker
Not to say that it'll never come back, but it won't be like how it was in In the lobby in the Grand Floridian. Now, that's not to say that, you know, Disney's not doing gingerbread house at all because there is other gingerbread houses that get done at other resorts.
01:06:02
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yeah It's just overshadowed by the one at the Grand Floridian. And if you haven't been to it or haven't seen it, it's a, I don't know, I guess you'd call it a life-size gingerbread house that you can...
01:06:14
Speaker
kind of walk into and buy stuff and it's it's a it looks the same size as like when you would go to the mall and they would have like a Santa's workshop building in the yeah in the center of But made hang out of actual gingerbread. yeah But it was entirely gingerbread. which Yeah. that That was the insane part. is Yeah. It yeah was a building made of gingerbread. And listen, I listen it's i i had seen it ah maybe two or three times because we've been during the holidays a fair amount.
01:06:44
Speaker
And it is a, I mean, it was a pretty cool sight to behold, but it also was a zoo. You know, it it it was very much a lot. of it brought a lot of people to the resort. And um it,
01:06:57
Speaker
ah you know, it it got very busy, you know? And I'm i'm not like... super upset about this. I, I didn't write only because i'm I'm not, you know, like it wasn't the most important thing in the world to me, you know? Yeah.
01:07:14
Speaker
I got to see it and I'm good with that. Like, I don't even think I would have planned to see it again. You know? Yeah. The thing is for some people, it was like part of their traditions. Yes. And and i get I get, I totally get that.
01:07:27
Speaker
um Instead, they're going to do a bunch of different ah smaller displays. Yeah, which, and the interesting thing about that is that, you know, kind of the same as like when they do the Easter displays and whatnot, is that it does open itself up to more creativity. Because, you know, the massive gingerbread house, the problem was, you know, there's not a lot of ways you can do load-bearing gingerbread houses. Oh, yeah, that's true. Right? Like, it's, and not to say like the entire thing wasn't, like they did have a structure underneath it and everything, but...
01:07:59
Speaker
But it's, you know, I feel like, you know, people are like, well, you know, the the it was a massive display. And it's like, yeah, but because they're spending so much energy on that one display, it does limit their creativity.
01:08:13
Speaker
Right? Yeah. And and also, i'm I'm curious to see what they do in its place. That's always the thing is it's like when these things change, you know, I am curious. I don't want to say that, you know, it's always going to be better. But sometimes, you know,
01:08:29
Speaker
you'll get you'll get a bunch of things that's like, oh, this didn't hit quite the same way, but then... Sometimes it'll just they'll do something. It's like, hey, this new thing is amazing. And and, you know, like I said about, you know, my thing with Splash Mountain, it's like then both versions can live rent free in your head. So, well, you know, the other thing that the the one article ah i on DVC News mentions and I this feels, you know, legitimate. It says, well, you know, it says, well, this may be disappointing, a disappointing outcome for some. The Grand Floridian has had morphed into a magnet for guest complaints. Due to the crowds attracted to the life-size display, not only did it mean more folks crowding the resort lobby for a full two months of the year, but the monorail system suffered from the burden of moving that many guests both to and from the resort.
01:09:14
Speaker
I actually think that's probably more of the reason than anything, to be totally. Interesting. I could understand why if I was staying at the Grand Floridian at that time a year and that just the lobby was just an insane amount of people in there, that that would kind of bother me, especially with how much money you pay to stay at the Grand Floridian, you know? Yeah.
01:09:31
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, that that is a fair point that, you know you know, a lot of us, I guess as DVC members, we take for granted being able to move freely amongst the resorts.
01:09:42
Speaker
Yes. And, yeah you know, were because we are we're staying there already, you know, you know we're paying for for, you know, DVC accommodations and everything. But to that point is, yeah, there's a lot of people that, you know, you know not to say that people who are staying off-site or anywhere else, you know, shouldn't, you know, be able to enjoy these things, but...
01:10:00
Speaker
When, you know, a when it becomes a thing to a point where it's like, hey, there's an attraction here and I don't have to pay, yeah you know, that like because they have like stuff in the parks that are, you know, as equally grandiose as as the gingerbread house in the Grand Floridian, like even like in in. ah in Haunted Mansion in Disneyland every year, they do a gingerbread house for, Nightmare Before Christmas and all that. But the difference is is you still have to pay to get into that space. And, you know, it's, that controls it somewhat.
01:10:33
Speaker
I see the point of, you know, having a, having a space, which is a resort that people can, you know, freely come and go from, but there's, you know, there's something there that it's like, it's drawing people there that it's not, it's not a reason that they're staying there. They're just coming there to see like, you know, an attraction of sorts.
01:10:51
Speaker
I can see why Disney, you know, is probably looking at that and and yeah, you know, probably based on their feedback of, uh, um you know, guest satisfaction. because ah Because I know it's been a thing for a while. has. You know, guests have been saying like, you know, hey, the the resorts are crowded. There's, you know, I'll say this too, is, you know even my last couple of stays at the the Polynesian, like we usually go in relatively like off seasons. But, you know, I've noticed just the amount of people in the ceremonial house and whatnot. like and And part of that is because of, you know, you know,
01:11:25
Speaker
the um the tower opening up, you know, obviously it's, it's more people. The new restaurant there too. Yeah, exactly. But, but yeah, because there was something new, it was drawing more people to the resort, which, which makes sense. But it also, like, like you said, you know, you're kind of paying for this resort going like, you know, Hey, I don't, you know, I don't want to be at a resort and be in equivalent crowds to being in magic kingdom.
01:11:50
Speaker
So yeah, I get why Disney would make a decision like that, you know, you know, just based on, you know, what it's become. And the the funny thing is, is that they like, it actually kind of speaks to, they have the ability to really control where people go if you think about it.
01:12:08
Speaker
Because, you know, the gingerbread house drew people to the Grand Floridian. They could do something at one of the other resorts and they could draw people to that resort.
Respecting Opinions in Disney Discussions
01:12:18
Speaker
So it's kind of kind of an interesting thought exercise that it's not a matter of like, you know, getting people in and out of the parks, but they do have means of deciding how many people show up at resorts that are, you know, you know, just because of, you know, things that they're doing in the lobbies and stuff like that. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. yeah It's interesting.
01:12:39
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. All right. Well, I think, yeah, yeah, we should call it there. I think, I think we we had a few interesting topics today and and I, and let me just follow up the, you know, our previous discussion with, you know, you know, Tom and I,
01:12:54
Speaker
we We don't always agree on everything. Trevor's a hater. Yeah. Okay. Sure. I mean, yeah, you can say that if you want. I mean, now you're a hater too sometimes. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I kidding i know. but But that's the point is, you know, I think it's good that, you know, we don't always have to agree on this stuff, but it's also like...
01:13:15
Speaker
you know, you you were, we're allowed to, you know, have our opinions on it. Listen, yeah I Trevor, to your point, I think the most important thing in any discussion where people disagree is that you respect each other's opinion, regardless of whether you agree with it or not.
01:13:30
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And that's when you don't respect the other person's opinion. That's when you have negativity and, uh, and bad feelings between people and and nobody likes listening to that. So, yeah.
01:13:42
Speaker
But, but ah you know, i'm I'm glad that we were able to navigate that because I know, like, sometimes i I'm very cautious about approaching hot topics around Disney stuff. Well, cause because, you know, a lot of people, like or, you know, if you spend enough time on social media, there's there's a lot of people that...
01:14:02
Speaker
So I don't know love going to social media. Well, yeah, fair. I mean, i mean there's there's a lot of people that that gravitate towards the negativity of it, right? Oh, yeah, for sure. And I don't like to be negative. It's not – You know what, though? I don't think you're being negative. i't There's a difference between between being negative and being – and having, you know, feedback or – you know, just feeling a certain way about something. I don't think you're being negative by saying these things. Because they weren't even criticisms, really. Like, you just were... it was more so just observations. It was just how I i saw things being presented. but But again, I guess, you know, that's reason I don't like comment on stuff on Facebook a lot, you know, outside of our group, because it's, you know, people misinterpret that as like, you know, you know wanting to start a fight, right? Which...
01:14:51
Speaker
Yeah. is I don't know. I feel like there's there's room for for, you know, opinions and creativity and, kind you know you know, commenting on things. But, um yeah, i I'm just glad that we can, you know, talk about this stuff and when we're done not be like...
01:15:09
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you know, or not feel like we have to like take a stance on it, I guess. Cause you know, yeah I will admit some of the points you brought up actually changed my mind about like my initial reactions to the, the, uh,
01:15:21
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um to the animatronic and all that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, like, I i think that's always he's good in these constructive conversations, you know? Exactly. um i Listen, you could have changed my mind, too. I mean, you know, I understand where you're coming from completely. I get it. I am never, i never want to discount anyone's view on the nostalgia piece because I understand that piece, it right? It's a hard thing. It's it's hard to to, it's hard to remove somebody's experience because everyone has their own experience. And,
01:15:50
Speaker
You know, just because i see it a certain way doesn't mean that it's wrong for everybody else. Right. yeah like Listen, one of my probably my earliest memory of Disney is the Main Street Electrical Parade. Right. Like I remember that and that that lives in a spot in my head always. Like I still have a memory of it from when I was super young.
01:16:11
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So I do have a special kind of connection to it. And it does make me sad that it's, you know, it's retired. You know, it's not around anymore. But I. I also feel like I, you know, i under I believe that not everything things don't last forever. Nothing does. Right. That's the hard part and about this is that you know we we want to believe that this stuff is eternal and none of it is at the end for as much as, you know, it's been around for a long time. None of what happens at Disney is eternal.
01:16:41
Speaker
Or just in life, you know, or just in life. Yeah, exactly. But more importantly at Disney. Well, listen, there are probably a couple things that are going to be eternal at Disney, which I feel like we could do whole waitlist episode on. I mean, like, you know, Small World's never going away. it has evolved. It has evolved. There have been changes. Yeah. Yeah. Like, you know, the traffic between Liberty Square and Fanny's Land, never going to get better.
01:17:07
Speaker
It's just it's going to be terrible forever. You know, it's ye Whenever you do get to ride Small World in in Disneyland, you're going to be like, what the heck is going on here? Because it is way different. It is different. Yeah. i from what i I mean, I've watched, you know, even though I haven't Disneyland, I've watched an insane amount about Disneyland. And i've I've seen it. But again, things are different when you experience them in person. But even just watching videos of Small World at Disneyland is like...
01:17:31
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was like, oh, yeah, yeah it's it's it's a whole different experience. Right. And and a whole different thing. So anyway, um we were going to wrap up and then we yeah I just I just wanted to put that out there, you know, for anybody listening to the show that, you you know, you know, Tom and I having these discussions, I I feel it's a net positive. And I just wanted to put that out.
01:17:49
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Listen, yeah it's I don't I don't want to say that, but yeah it's it's not it's not the way things used to be. You and I respect each other and we we respect each other's opinions and nobody's here to tell each other that your opinion is stupid or wrong. It's it's just your opinion and I disagree with it and you disagree with mine. You know, that's okay.
01:18:06
Speaker
Yeah, it is. Yeah, yeah. and So yeah, now now we'll actually wrap this up because I know... No, we're not done now. no, we're done. We're done when I say we're done. I was just trying to argue with you. No, I know. No, Tom. No, you're not arguing with me, Tom. You can't argue with me, Tom. Oh, yeah. Wait minute. I'm going the producer card on you. Yeah, you can mute my mic, I guess. But I have to do the wrap up. So I could just do it myself. All right, go.
Engagement with Listeners
01:18:35
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I'll insert. I'm just going to insert a recording of you doing it from a previous episode. Yeah. Anyway.
01:18:42
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Or you'll find all ah like an AI voice to replace me. Oh, yeah. I'm already working on AI Tremors. Oh, no. All right. Just I can make you have different opinions on things. I'm going to replace that whole section with, you know, yes, Tom, it's the greatest thing ever. ah Anyway, can you wrap it up? Now you're going to break my brain because I do have to try and wrap this up. Yeah, wrap it up. my remember All right. So if you if you ah if you have your own thoughts and opinions or anything you want to share about anything we talked about on the show,
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01:19:22
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01:19:54
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01:20:12
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01:21:11
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And ah everyone who supports us through Patreon gets access to the Discord server, which as we talked about, we have lots of great discussions before and after the show. Sometimes there's little sneak peeks of stuff from the show. Sometimes it's, you know, people...
01:21:25
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Doing trip planning. I know there's been some discussion about Alani in the Discord the last ah week, which is cool. yeah You know, I love that people, ah you know, bring up stuff that they're, you know, trips they're looking to to make and all that. so Also, somebody called out and said, last week, I said that the Lakeshore Lodge pool is going to be the best pool, DVC pool. And they said, well, Alani is the best pool.
01:21:45
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oh ah Okay, but I don't care. I'm talking at a Disney World, not all over the place, but it's a good call out and fair. If you're looking at all DVC resorts, yes. I view everything in the lens of Disney World only. So so remember remember, Tom tom tom is has not traveled the world of Disney. Yeah, I... That being said, I had a very long list of resorts that I've stayed, of Disney resorts that I've stayed at. Yes, you you've stayed at far more than I have because yeah I've only stayed at i've only stayed out a handful in Disney World and only one actual DVC resort. I've only got like five I haven't stayed at total. But –
01:22:22
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so but yeah But I've stayed at half of the ah the resorts in in Disneyland that are
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01:22:29
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DVC resorts. so that's I mean, that feels like a misleading statistic, but... It is accurate. It's accurate, but misleading. Correct. Because there's only two. Because there's only two. And sorry, we we just completely got derailed on the, on the, design yeah. What were we talking about? Oh yeah. we three most right drawn And discord and and all that. And yeah, yeah you know, last but not least, if you, you want to leave a review about the show, um you know, you know, you can find us on iTunes, you know, leave us a review and us what you think about the show. But if you're on any platform where you can, you know, rate the show, you know, leave us five stars. It just helps more people find the show and, know,
01:23:05
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And, you know, we we would love that. You know, we'd we'd love to have, you know, more people just find and listen to the show. So, you know, leave us a five star review because it does help with that. that's The other thing that helps, too, is subscribing to Welcome Home Podcast so you can be reminded every time we release new episode, you can find us on Apple Podcasts, Amazon Music, TuneIn, Spotify, YouTube, YouTube Music, any podcast up that's out there, you can find us. Just, you know, search for our names and you'll you'll find us. A huge thank you to the sponsors of this episode, DVC Resale Market, and ah I always want to say World of DVC, but it's Keyholder Vacations for sponsoring this episode. World of DVC, which is easier to remember, but Keyholder Vacations.
01:23:40
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ah Join us next time for more Disney Parks discussion. Of course, more DVC talk. We hope to see you all real soon.
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This is Skipper Albert A. Wall, the voice of the jungle, signing off from Welcome Home Podcast on the DVC. We do a hug when we head to church.
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How she can cuddle, she's no man's affair. I look around for all the poles, found her in her sugar bowl. Hey, look out, here goes my ball and chain.
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