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Speaker: That's just a giant ape and a giant iguana type lizard.
Speaker: It's a giant ape versus a giant metaphor for a nuclear war in Japan.
Speaker: And that's just a tale as old as time.
Speaker: You're listening to Pixel It, because the only thing better than playing a video game is reading about one.
Speaker: On today's episode, we delve further into the world of S.D.
Speaker: Perry's Resident Evil, The Umbrella Conspiracy.
Speaker: As a content warning, this episode will contain spoilers, as well as discussion of gore and coarse language.
Speaker: And now, on with the show.
Speaker: We're back.
Speaker: It's episode three.
Speaker: Three?
Speaker: Three.
Speaker: And we're trucking on through Resident Evil, the Umbrella Conspiracy.
Speaker: And for those of you who have been listening and following along in the
Speaker: Last episode, we got up through chapter eight, in which the big twist in the reveal was made that Captain Wesker is, in fact, a bad guy.
Speaker: Dun, dun, dun.
Speaker: And this was actually... Who would have thunk it?
Speaker: This actually was not revealed in the original game.
Speaker: This was not revealed until basically the end of the game, in which you... Oh, wow.
Speaker: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker: You don't...
Speaker: Like Wesker basically just disappears and then you see him again at the end.
Speaker: He's like, ha ha, I've been behind it all along or something along those lines.
Speaker: I can't, I can't remember specifically.
Speaker: And I, that probably changed between the original game and the remake because I haven't, um,
Speaker: I honestly, I haven't played the remake recently and I can't remember what the difference is, if any, if with how Wesker is treated between the two of them.
Speaker: But anyway, chapter eight, Wesker's a bad guy.
Speaker: Oh no.
Speaker: And we're starting up with the chapter nine and nine.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: And it brings us back to that, that cradle to the grave puzzle.
Speaker: Yes.
Speaker: You know, which I believe is the first puzzle that brought us here, basically.
Speaker: And it's a very distinctive room.
Speaker: If you played the game, it's a U-shaped room.
Speaker: There's portraits all over the place.
Speaker: And Jill is walking around trying to solve it.
Speaker: There's crows.
Speaker: Attack crows.
Speaker: Attack crows.
Speaker: Not just regular crows.
Speaker: Hungry, hungry, zombo crows.
Speaker: Zom crows.
Speaker: Are the crows zombies or are they just crows and thus assholes?
Speaker: You know, that's a great, you know, that's a really good point.
Speaker: If they were, if they were cats, we'd be asking the same question.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: I mean, there's like the dogs, like you have to, you have to assign them the status of being evil zombie dogs because you, you just be like, Oh, well, if they're regular dogs, I mean, you know, with a dog that has no skin, that's coming at you.
Speaker: you know, you're like, hey, something's up.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Something's wrong with this good boy.
Speaker: A crow or a cat attacks you.
Speaker: You're like, well, that's a crow or a cat.
Speaker: That is a crow or a cat.
Speaker: And you know what?
Speaker: Even if the dog has been ravaged by the T-virus, still a good boy.
Speaker: Still a good boy.
Speaker: They're all good boys.
Speaker: We're all good dogs.
Speaker: Jill tries to, she just like flips a switch and that was, that was really not a good idea.
Speaker: I guess she, she figures out that the bar, the ledge that the crows are standing on is electrified.
Speaker: And if you flip the wrong switch, it sends a little shocky into the crows' footsies.
Speaker: And they need vengeance.
Speaker: And they need, they need vengeance because,
Speaker: Crows are smart birds, you know, they're up there.
Speaker: They are.
Speaker: And they will figure out that, oh, well, she clearly did something because she flipped a switch and now my feet hurt.
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: Now my feet hurt.
Speaker: It's time for vengeance.
Speaker: It's time for vengeance.
Speaker: And that's just a regular crow.
Speaker: So we don't even know if this is some sort of mutant Zomcrow.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: So that little section ends with her dealing with that.
Speaker: Then we get a little smash cut over to Chris and Rebecca.
Speaker: They're making their way out of the file room together this time.
Speaker: Rebecca shows off in her little biology knowledge and just starts talking about all these papers they got to do with virology.
Speaker: And she gives us a little bit of an exposition dump.
Speaker: There's actually a really nice bit of information in this expo dump.
Speaker: At one point, Chris asks her, is there any way to tell if we could be infected?
Speaker: And Rebecca responds, not without more information.
Speaker: All that is pretty old 10 years plus.
Speaker: And there's nothing specific about application, though an airborne with that kind of speed and toxicity.
Speaker: If it was still viable, all of Raccoon City would probably be infected by now.
Speaker: I can't be positive, but I doubt it's still contagious, which actually is a nice thing.
Speaker: It's a nice line because when you play the Resident Evil games and you have these Zambos that are constantly gnawing on you, but your character never becomes a zombie, it suddenly makes sense because it doesn't matter.
Speaker: These zombies are just zombies.
Speaker: It's not like they're contagious zombies at this point.
Speaker: It's like any other zombie franchise.
Speaker: A bite is the kiss of death.
Speaker: That's it.
Speaker: Exactly.
Speaker: Vampires, too.
Speaker: There are some where it's just getting bit by vampires enough to become the vampire.
Speaker: And she's kind of throwing it out there.
Speaker: It's like, oh, yeah, you remember all those times you got chewed on by zombies when you're playing this game?
Speaker: Here's why.
Speaker: Here's why nothing happened.
Speaker: It's because you're past the viral infection stage, which makes sense.
Speaker: That is a thing with viruses.
Speaker: There's a part at which you are just ill, but can no longer spread the virus.
Speaker: That's just how viruses work.
Speaker: Now, I'm not going to say that's just how viruses work.
Speaker: Please write in if that's not how viruses work, because I'm not an expert on viruses.
Speaker: Please send your complaints to that's not how viruses work at gmail.com.
Speaker: We'll be checking that on a near yearly basis.
Speaker: Yes.
Speaker: Every flu season.
Speaker: And only when I've been drinking.
Speaker: And we do get, we get another wonderful moment in a segment I like to call, it's getting awkward between Chris and nearly jailbait McGee over here.
Speaker: Oh my God.
Speaker: And yes, that's a, that's a, that is absolutely the name of this segment.
Speaker: And I'm sure I'm going to remember that.
Speaker: Go ahead.
Speaker: I think I, I think I have that highlighted where you,
Speaker: The part you're about to bring up.
Speaker: I would love to.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: So they're basically they're getting their way down the hallway.
Speaker: He tells her he needs her to watch his back.
Speaker: And the quote here is, yes, sir, she said quietly.
Speaker: And Chris grinned in spite of the situation.
Speaker: Technically, he was her superior.
Speaker: Still, it was weird to have it pointed out.
Speaker: Why?
Speaker: Is it weird because you wish that she was calling you daddy instead of sir?
Speaker: Because that's the impression that I'm getting.
Speaker: I'm really glad that you pointed this out because I had the same exact read on that paragraph.
Speaker: Good.
Speaker: Okay, good.
Speaker: It was just me.
Speaker: I'm glad.
Speaker: I'm really glad.
Speaker: And Chris grinned in spite of the situation.
Speaker: Like, why is he grinning?
Speaker: Why is he grinning?
Speaker: Why is that?
Speaker: Why is this so weird, Chris?
Speaker: Chris, you're making it weird.
Speaker: You're making it weird, Chris.
Speaker: She's 18.
Speaker: You're 20-something.
Speaker: You're probably too old for her.
Speaker: The only people allowed to go after 18-year-olds are 19-year-olds and 17-year-olds, and that's it.
Speaker: That's it.
Speaker: My God, man.
Speaker: There are zombies outside.
Speaker: Quit your grinning and grab your linen.
Speaker: We don't have time for this crap.
Speaker: Ha ha ha.
Speaker: Not just any zombies, Resident Evil zombies.
Speaker: We got Resident Evil zombies, and there's other monsters, Chris.
Speaker: Spoiler warning, there's other monsters.
Speaker: I'm pretty sure there's a snake wandering around the building.
Speaker: And meanwhile, you're more concerned with the snake in your pants.
Speaker: Ayo!
Speaker: I think we all saw that coming.
Speaker: I think, yep, yep.
Speaker: You know what?
Speaker: That was a beach ball.
Speaker: That was a beach ball right across on plate.
Speaker: What choice did you really have, Kevin?
Speaker: I'm not mad at you.
Speaker: We have more hallway and corridor walking and talking.
Speaker: So many.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: So many.
Speaker: It's like an episode of the West Wing in here.
Speaker: It's basically.
Speaker: It's Resident Evil.
Speaker: Resident Evil by Aaron Sorkin.
Speaker: Oh dear God.
Speaker: Someone make that fan fiction happen.
Speaker: Oh, just walking and talking down hallways, zombie hallways, but hallways.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: And every now and then it's just, you know, interrupted by zombies slamming their way through the windows and,
Speaker: But it would have to be a West wing, like West wing resident evil crossover, because I really would love to see president.
Speaker: Jeff Bartlett would handle, uh, the zombie outbreak in raccoon city.
Speaker: He would, I can tell you what he would do in a vague, broad sense of the term.
Speaker: He would, he would handle the situation in a way that liberals would absolutely adore in a world that does not, nor cannot exist.
Speaker: Uh,
Speaker: I say that as a man who's pretty far left.
Speaker: Liberals, liberals love it.
Speaker: The Republican Speaker of the House would get would stand up and give him give him a standing ovation.
Speaker: Jeff Daniels would walk in and start talking about how we used to be great and we can be again.
Speaker: And now we're we are the welcome to the newsroom, Raccoon City.
Speaker: And that zombie's name was Albert Einstein.
Speaker: Fuck.
Speaker: We are inspiring some fan fiction here.
Speaker: And I think that means we're doing good work.
Speaker: If it worked for that Twilight fan fiction that became Fifty Shades of Grey, it can work for the Resident Evil West Wing fans and all of us.
Speaker: Chris watches one zombie eating another zombie, which is actually not something that happens.
Speaker: I've never really seen zombies show interest in one another.
Speaker: Another nice lurid description of it moaned again, a wet, phlegmy sound and brought a handful of slushy gray matter to its eager lips.
Speaker: Honestly, I would get that tattooed across my back if I could.
Speaker: I mean, yeah.
Speaker: We've got some really solid grotesqueries written here.
Speaker: It's such a funny situation to be here where
Speaker: There are so many moments in this where you're like, why are, why is this a book?
Speaker: Why is this a book?
Speaker: And then something like that happens and you go, okay, yeah, that was pretty cool.
Speaker: I think Edgar Allen Poe would like that description.
Speaker: Oh, he would have loved it.
Speaker: I just, I'm just, I just don't like Chris's point of view chapters, especially when Rebecca's around.
Speaker: And I think we can, we can all agree to just pretend that they'd never happened.
Speaker: Be gross with someone your own age, man.
Speaker: That's my advice to all men.
Speaker: Be gross.
Speaker: Be as gross as you want, but be gross with someone your own age.
Speaker: And only if that person wants to be gross with you.
Speaker: Exactly.
Speaker: All consensual grossness.
Speaker: Love it.
Speaker: That's our first t-shirt.
Speaker: So we get another scene change.
Speaker: So that's three scene changes in the chapter.
Speaker: And we're jumping over to Barry now.
Speaker: Barry is, he is killing, killing ghouls and taking names.
Speaker: Suddenly someone shows up.
Speaker: Somebody who had already made his plans known in the previous chapter.
Speaker: And oh no, it's Captain Wesker.
Speaker: Cue the saxophone solo from Who Could It Be Now?
Speaker: That's just...
Speaker: Who would have thunk it?
Speaker: Wesker is here.
Speaker: You, the sax.
Speaker: It's just one long sax solo when he comes on.
Speaker: Speaking of the saxophone, which we can all agree is the skeeziest of instruments.
Speaker: He's so skeezy here.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Like weirdly skeezy.
Speaker: I kept, I'm expecting him to ask Barry what color his underwear is.
Speaker: His stock as a character just, it just keeps going down.
Speaker: Yeah, it's getting worse.
Speaker: Like, he's already the bad guy.
Speaker: Every single second of his, of him in this book, he somehow becomes a worse person.
Speaker: For different reasons.
Speaker: For different reasons.
Speaker: He just, like this one, he's, like, before, we hate him because he's threatening Barry's family, he's the bad guy, fine.
Speaker: Here, he just feels...
Speaker: scummy you know there's something really just about the way he like he's grinning at Barry really really pointedly and uh and then he tells he says something about like you know sorry about that I had some uh business to attend to you know call in nature
Speaker: Goll and nature.
Speaker: He's basically Lumberg from office space in this.
Speaker: He basically comes out of the elevator, just like has a cup of coffee.
Speaker: He doesn't actually have a cup of coffee.
Speaker: I just imagine him having having gotten coffee somewhere in this building.
Speaker: And he comes out of the elevator and he just goes to Barry and be like, hey, Barry, what's happening?
Speaker: Listen, I'm going to need you to have to work on this weekend.
Speaker: It's like...
Speaker: absolute worst boss.
Speaker: Just so weird.
Speaker: And, and, and it's just, and, and he, and he basically tells Barry, he just, he basically just lets him in on it all.
Speaker: He's like, Hey, you know, he's, I'm the bad guy here.
Speaker: And, uh, you're going to help me because if you don't, I'm going to kill your whole family where we've got a team waiting outside your family's house, ready to kill them.
Speaker: The moment I send in the signal,
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: And Barry, as we've established, he's the family man, the old one, the 38 year old man who's just two weeks away from retirement.
Speaker: He's old and he's been married for 20 years.
Speaker: Yeah, which is longer than any person has ever been married before.
Speaker: His kid, his oldest kid is heading off to college next week.
Speaker: And then he can't take that chance, man.
Speaker: He doesn't believe Wesker necessarily, but what choice has he got?
Speaker: What choice has he got?
Speaker: I like the fact that he lies about having to go attend to, you know, call of nature.
Speaker: And then like in two seconds, he just lets Barry in on the plan.
Speaker: Like what was even the point?
Speaker: What was even the point of telling of like lying to Barry about having to go take a dump?
Speaker: I would love it if like his he's like halfway through that lame excuse.
Speaker: And he goes, you know what?
Speaker: Fuck it.
Speaker: Actually, I'm going to kill your family if you don't help me.
Speaker: I'm sorry.
Speaker: I can't even say that out loud.
Speaker: Like I felt so stupid.
Speaker: So dumb.
Speaker: No, not.
Speaker: That doesn't mean I'm not looking for a John.
Speaker: Have you seen?
Speaker: Have you seen one that isn't like dirty and scuzzy?
Speaker: Because I got to take a poop.
Speaker: and just filled with crazy poop eating zombies.
Speaker: I don't know if that's a thing.
Speaker: I don't want to know if that's a thing.
Speaker: I just need to pee, man.
Speaker: Like, and I, and I'm a gentleman and I can't do it out in the open.
Speaker: I just, it feels wrong.
Speaker: Anyway, gonna probably kill your family if you don't do what I tell you to do.
Speaker: Yeah, he basically becomes the big bad villain.
Speaker: The cool thing is, though, in this moment is we get a scene that we didn't we didn't get in the games because honestly, we don't we don't find about the twist about Wesker until later.
Speaker: And then we also don't find out that Wesker had blackmailed Barry until like later.
Speaker: It's it's just it's a straight up twist.
Speaker: And it it's becoming more clear to me that this book was written.
Speaker: It's for people who played the games.
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: Clearly.
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: Because if you've played the first Resident Evil game, you know, Wesker's the villain.
Speaker: You know, Barry was being blackmailed.
Speaker: So instead of like trying to set it up as a twist, S.D.
Speaker: Perry just wrote it as, all right, I'm just going to I'm just going to write it in here.
Speaker: This we're going to see this scene and we're going to and we're going to use this moment to have full on character development.
Speaker: really make Wesker a villain instead of in the games where he's like, oh, he just is suddenly, he's like, oh, I guess he's the bad guy.
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: Which is, which is frankly, again, another good way of adapting it to a novel because,
Speaker: a twist is not going to be nearly as interesting in the grand scheme of things as actual honest to God character development.
Speaker: Even if that character development just involves, I'm the bad guy.
Speaker: I had to take a piss.
Speaker: That's still, still better, still better than, you know,
Speaker: I was dead the whole time kind of shit.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: You have you've seen the Resident Evil movie a long time ago.
Speaker: I remember it had basically nothing to do is with zero.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Zero to do with the games like nothing.
Speaker: I remember it was like I think we were an hour and 10 minutes into the movie before we saw zombies.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Something like that.
Speaker: And I think the movie's only an hour and 21 minutes long.
Speaker: There's like a moment in which there's like this character.
Speaker: There's this character that's with the main character the entire time, this guy, and he has amnesia.
Speaker: And then...
Speaker: heading into the final act there's like this gas that he gets sprayed with that causes him to remember everything and the moment is basically he doesn't say this but it's he basically says oh yeah I'm the bad guy
Speaker: Upon remembering everything, he's actually the villain.
Speaker: Just, hey, Aqualung starts playing over the speakers way too loud.
Speaker: Just, Jesus.
Speaker: And so, like, this kind of precludes that.
Speaker: This is like, okay, we're going to set up Wesker as a villain.
Speaker: The only thing that I had issue ahead with Wesker's little spiel with Barry is when he tells Barry,
Speaker: Of course, you tell them you've seen me.
Speaker: That could complicate matters.
Speaker: If I run into trouble, say get shot in the back.
Speaker: Well, enough said.
Speaker: Let's keep this to ourselves.
Speaker: I don't get why if he wants Barry to lie for him, right, and work for him.
Speaker: Why not keep it just a little bit simpler and say and say and tell Barry like, hey, you run into Chris or Jill, you know, and so you like tell them that you saw me, but you can't tell them anything about this.
Speaker: Now Barry has to have like two layers of lie.
Speaker: He's like, first of all, I'm not working for Wesker.
Speaker: And second, no, I don't know where he is.
Speaker: Right, right.
Speaker: It's just anyone who has ever had to fib on any occasion knows that the easiest thing is just to change the one detail.
Speaker: Keep lots of truth in there otherwise.
Speaker: Barry doesn't seem like a guy who's really able to deal with multiple lies at once.
Speaker: No, absolutely not.
Speaker: I'm not sure that he even knows how many bullets are in his gun at any given time.
Speaker: I think I think Wesker's best bet is to be like, yeah, you can tell him you saw me.
Speaker: Just don't mention the whole boom boom on your kids thing.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: It sounds more like he's going to poop on them, which might be more of a threat.
Speaker: I don't know.
Speaker: I don't know.
Speaker: That would be not good.
Speaker: I'm not great at taking hostages.
Speaker: So that's not on your resume.
Speaker: That's not on your resume of skills is taking hostages is.
Speaker: No one, no one on LinkedIn has sponsored me as that being one of my, my expert skills.
Speaker: You know, I'm going to go ahead and do that.
Speaker: I think, I think that might be, I think your, your current employer will appreciate that.
Speaker: It's at very least a conversation starter, and that's always valuable.
Speaker: It says down here you're an expert at taking hostages.
Speaker: Now, I'm not going to ask you to explain that, but what I will ask you to do is just put your hands on the desk and wait here while security comes to escort you out the building.
Speaker: Listen, here, I'll explain it.
Speaker: It's very simple, okay?
Speaker: You can't tell anyone that I...
Speaker: have been endorsed as a hostage taker.
Speaker: And furthermore, if anyone asks you about it, you never saw me.
Speaker: You've never been to North Dakota.
Speaker: And even if you did know me, my name was Glenn Yoshington the entire time.
Speaker: Can you remember all that?
Speaker: Barry, Barry, Barry, are you paying attention?
Speaker: Barry, Barry, Yoshington, say it back, Barry.
Speaker: Barry.
Speaker: Chapter ends.
Speaker: Chapter ends with Barry clenching his giant fists, knuckles whitening.
Speaker: Oh, yeah.
Speaker: And promised himself that Wesker would pay for what he was doing.
Speaker: Oh, that sweet vengeance is coming.
Speaker: With interest.
Speaker: Yeah, with interest.
Speaker: Vengeance, thy name is Barry.
Speaker: Barry Yoshington.
Speaker: Barry Yoshington.
Speaker: The third.
Speaker: Where the hell did that come from?
Speaker: Of the Westchester Yoshingtons.
Speaker: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker: Straight out of Philly, baby.
Speaker: Straight out of Philly.
Speaker: Oh.
Speaker: The Fresh Prince of Yoshington, West Philadelphia, born and raised.
Speaker: Raising Yoshis is how he spent most of his days.
Speaker: Most of his days.
Speaker: On the other days, it was shooting zombies.
Speaker: Shooting zombies.
Speaker: All right.
Speaker: Chapter 10.
Speaker: That was a brisk chapter.
Speaker: I think we got through that chapter faster than I feel good about any other chapter.
Speaker: We're picking up the pace here.
Speaker: Jill slides a heavy copper crest right into the right into the thing.
Speaker: And I like that we that we just kind of skip her like solving the puzzle.
Speaker: Like she basically does two puzzles off camera.
Speaker: It's like, we're just going to skip that, you know?
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: It's kind of like, ST Perry's kind of like going, you all know how this goes.
Speaker: Anyway, she puts it in the thing and yeah.
Speaker: There's only so many ways you can write a somebody solving a Resident Evil puzzle, especially when it involves just like trial and error for like five minutes of flipping switch sin rotating something.
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: Like if she was playing, I, one of, one of the questions I plan on asking, uh, Ms.
Speaker: Perry is if she was basically given a script of how these went, or if they gave her a copy of the game and they're like, Hey, play the game.
Speaker: Take some notes.
Speaker: And yeah, take some notes because at this point it feels like this is the moment where she like puts down the controller and she's like, Oh, for fuck's sake.
Speaker: Like, just, okay.
Speaker: I see what I'm getting into here.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: How the hell am I going to deal with this?
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: But it does lead, however, if you want to talk about moments that everyone in this game franchise loves, it leads to one of those classic, wonderful toe curling moments.
Speaker: The discovery of the shotgun.
Speaker: Yes.
Speaker: Just, oh, oh.
Speaker: It's always so good.
Speaker: A pump action shotgun was mounted on dual hooks.
Speaker: And I feel like that's that that happens so often where it's like it's mounted on it's mounted on a wall and you're like, oh, yeah, I know what I got to do.
Speaker: But Jill doesn't know what she has to do.
Speaker: She's got no idea, but she's about to find out.
Speaker: She's about to find out Horde.
Speaker: Don't tell anybody I said it like that.
Speaker: That's the sound it makes when you take the shotgun off the wall, it goes, whore.
Speaker: Whore.
Speaker: It's like that.
Speaker: It's actually a voice clip of Andy Samberg saying that.
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: And the moment, because the moment, for those of you who don't realize what is absolutely about to happen here, she's setting off a trap.
Speaker: She's sitting off a big old trap.
Speaker: I don't get a shotgun in this game.
Speaker: I have a lot of logistical questions about this trap.
Speaker: And like I, these are questions I did not have when I played the game because it was, I was like, this is a game and that was a thing.
Speaker: And that was a harrowing experience.
Speaker: Now, when I read it in a book, I'm like, this is absurd.
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: This is the most absurd trap.
Speaker: Just from an architectural point of view, I'm not exactly sure how this works.
Speaker: Just imagining, what's the name of the guy who made the mansion again?
Speaker: The guy who owned it was Spencer.
Speaker: The guy who built it was Trevor.
Speaker: It was like George Trevor or something like that.
Speaker: I just imagine him like looking like he's got the plans and the guy who's building it is like, sir, I just had a quick question in this room.
Speaker: It just says Indiana Jones ceiling.
Speaker: And I'm not clear what that's supposed to mean.
Speaker: And he just gets he just goes, I think, you know what I'm talking about.
Speaker: Are you a professional architect or not?
Speaker: And he was like, yes, okay, but at least which Indiana Jones?
Speaker: And then there's a long pause and he goes, Temple of Doom.
Speaker: And you're like, okay, okay, I can work with that.
Speaker: Okay, cool, got it.
Speaker: And the first time they went in and like just not enough bugs.
Speaker: Then the second time they tried it out too many.
Speaker: It's just it's it's standard trial and error.
Speaker: We've all been there.
Speaker: It's OK.
Speaker: You just give your contractors a break.
Speaker: Yeah, it's cool.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: And we're all going to be all right.
Speaker: Except for the contractors that get caught in the trap.
Speaker: Those absolutely are not going to be all right.
Speaker: But anyway, for those of you who don't know what the trap is, if you are listening to us apropos of nothing, have never heard of Resident Evil and you just are turned on a random podcast, well, I don't know what to tell you.
Speaker: But here I'm going to explain the trap.
Speaker: There is a shotgun mounted on a wall.
Speaker: Jill picks it up off the hooks.
Speaker: There's a click.
Speaker: She leaves the room that the shotgun is in and she goes there's there's like two rooms off of this hallway.
Speaker: She leaves the room that the shotgun was in, goes back into the room that and then the next door would take her into the hallway and then whoops, all the doors lock in the room.
Speaker: And the ceiling is starting to slide down with the intention of crushing her.
Speaker: Well, the ceiling, the ceiling has no intention.
Speaker: The person who designed it does.
Speaker: But, you know, you you get what I mean.
Speaker: You can't blame the ceiling.
Speaker: You can't blame the ceiling.
Speaker: Ceiling's just doing what it does.
Speaker: Ceiling, falling ceilings don't kill people.
Speaker: People with falling ceilings kill the person who put that falling ceiling in there.
Speaker: They're the one to blame.
Speaker: Absolutely.
Speaker: So she's absolutely I don't want I don't want to get Congress in on this.
Speaker: I think we all know how this second amendment right includes my right to have falling ceilings in my house.
Speaker: It's my property.
Speaker: It's my property and my property is allowed to murder.
Speaker: Somebody somebody's listening to this getting really dewy eyed being like, God damn right.
Speaker: Damn right.
Speaker: Clarence Thomas.
Speaker: Probably.
Speaker: Yeah, probably.
Speaker: Hey, Clarence.
Speaker: Thanks for listening.
Speaker: Make sure to make sure to leave a five star review there, big guy.
Speaker: So we love you.
Speaker: And I think and by the way, her reaction to.
Speaker: the ceiling caving in on her basically, um, is to say, holy shit, bad thing, bad thing, which, which is, which is, which is clearly the author's opportunity here to, you know, uh, add a little bit of levity.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: It's, you know, in the face of danger, but I,
Speaker: I went too far in my brain with it.
Speaker: I just kept hearing like Jerry Lewis, you know, bad thing.
Speaker: Like just, just high nasally nutty professor-ness.
Speaker: That's all I can think of.
Speaker: I love it.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: That's, that's it.
Speaker: Like fly even.
Speaker: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker: Where's that mod?
Speaker: I demand that mod.
Speaker: Uh, and so Jerry, yeah.
Speaker: Jerry Lewis or, or, or, uh, or a professor Frank from the Simpsons.
Speaker: Who is just a Jerry Lewis character, but I think Frank would be a nice touch.
Speaker: So yeah, the holy shit, bad thing, bad thing, panic rising.
Speaker: So she tries to get out by shooting the door, and as the wood splinters away, it just reveals that there's just a metal plate with a gigantic...
Speaker: deadbolt through the door there's like there's really not much that she can do um nothing with you know she's all of 110 pounds and you know she can't just keep firing bullets at it uh that's not really gonna do much um and then suddenly a barry ex machina
Speaker: Thank God.
Speaker: Thank God, by the way.
Speaker: Thank God.
Speaker: Barry arrives on the scene and saves her by throwing his big 38-year-old burliness at the door until it breaks open.
Speaker: And he pulls her out of the room and the ceiling comes down.
Speaker: It's actually a nice little description of the door just in your mind's eye because the door opens inwards.
Speaker: The door getting caught by the ceiling on the way down and being crushed.
Speaker: Yeah, it's good writing.
Speaker: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker: No, it's really well done.
Speaker: It's very evocative.
Speaker: Very evocative.
Speaker: And then this is where the problem I ultimately had is now there's just like a ceiling.
Speaker: In the doorframe, there's just ceiling now.
Speaker: There's nothing left.
Speaker: How is this house holding up that ceiling?
Speaker: well, you know, Kevin, they're not all load-bearing ceilings.
Speaker: That's a thing, yeah?
Speaker: That's a thing.
Speaker: Sure.
Speaker: I think the part of this that I question is when Barry, you know, opens up the door, grabs her out of there, and looks her in the eye and says, who's the master of unlocking now?
Speaker: I question that decision.
Speaker: That was a bit of writing that I wasn't so sure on, but, you know,
Speaker: You gotta do what you gotta do.
Speaker: You gotta get dramatic, man.
Speaker: Very 90s.
Speaker: I dig it.
Speaker: And then he puts on his sunglasses and in the background you hear, Yeah!
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Which is, this is where they got the idea for that.
Speaker: Bob O'Reilly starts playing and, you know.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: And they both just start air guitaring out for like three solid chapters.
Speaker: Yeah, it was three elaborate chapters describing them air guitar from from as the chord changes everything.
Speaker: And this is an air guitar.
Speaker: Nobody here is hearing anything.
Speaker: No, no, they're not even here.
Speaker: They're not even here.
Speaker: They make a point.
Speaker: They make a point in the chapters to say that they're not like
Speaker: like making mouth noises to imitate the whole thing.
Speaker: They hear all this.
Speaker: It is all silent.
Speaker: Nothing but the shuffling of their feet and the rustle of their hands moving up and down and the moan of some zombies off in the distance.
Speaker: It's a dual portrait of two stars agents who have lost their minds.
Speaker: It's really eerie.
Speaker: I liked it.
Speaker: I thought it was avant-garde, but good.
Speaker: We're back with Chris and Rebecca.
Speaker: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker: They make their way into the piano bar room.
Speaker: Yes.
Speaker: And this is where Chris is going to leave her.
Speaker: And then Chris has a thought.
Speaker: This is wrong.
Speaker: All wrong.
Speaker: Joseph, Ken, probably Billy.
Speaker: Who the fuck is Billy?
Speaker: I forgot who Billy was.
Speaker: Was Billy the guy... You forgot Billy?
Speaker: Was Billy the guy at the beginning who died right away?
Speaker: Billy was the...
Speaker: Hold on.
Speaker: He was the guy who that really that really well written Billy William William William Billy Billy Billy Boy cut to like the episode the first podcast or something of us talking about.
Speaker: Please, please do that.
Speaker: Yes.
Speaker: Or if not, just put like footage not found footage not found.
Speaker: Yes, that guy, Billy.
Speaker: It's just the way.
Speaker: Who could forget Billy?
Speaker: Who could forget Billy?
Speaker: The way the name Billy is just thrown in there.
Speaker: It's just like.
Speaker: Just, yeah.
Speaker: She wants to go, remember?
Speaker: Remember?
Speaker: There was a guy named Billy.
Speaker: Oh, wait, is Billy his friend?
Speaker: Was he the one that.
Speaker: Oh, yeah, the guy who called him.
Speaker: Yeah, but do we know that Billy is dead?
Speaker: Maybe.
Speaker: Maybe.
Speaker: Did we miss something?
Speaker: I don't know.
Speaker: I don't know, man.
Speaker: I don't know, man.
Speaker: Billy.
Speaker: Good old Billy.
Speaker: Good old Billy.
Speaker: No way.
Speaker: Well, we're assuming Chris.
Speaker: Oh, yeah, it was.
Speaker: Okay, yes, it was Billy.
Speaker: Billy was the one.
Speaker: Billy's the one that tried to contact him, who wanted to warn him about everything that's going on.
Speaker: Got it.
Speaker: So, yeah.
Speaker: We're good.
Speaker: We're back on the same page now.
Speaker: Billy is super professional.
Speaker: Billy is the one who tried to contact him, but right now Chris is kind of listing him along other people who are definitely dead.
Speaker: Definitely dead.
Speaker: He just does like, well, Billy's dead.
Speaker: I think we can all accept that.
Speaker: I think we can all accept and agree that my best childhood friend Billy is 100% dead, dead, dead-ski.
Speaker: So, yeah, so he's he's he's been he's considering all of his friends who are dead.
Speaker: Yes.
Speaker: And he finds himself a headless Bravo team member.
Speaker: Is this now is this the same headless one from before or did I miss something?
Speaker: I believe it's still Kenneth.
Speaker: We also are with Rebecca, too.
Speaker: Yes.
Speaker: As she starts just playing the piano.
Speaker: Seems like a lost opportunity for some.
Speaker: boogie woogie soundtrack additions here.
Speaker: I just imagined like if this was a film, like they cut back and she's like halfway through chopsticks.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Like very slowly.
Speaker: She does actually, this does lead to one of the better translated puzzles, uh, in the book.
Speaker: Uh,
Speaker: which is the sheet music puzzle.
Speaker: And I've got to ask, because as I've pointed out before, I've never played this game all the way through.
Speaker: Is this in the game?
Speaker: It is.
Speaker: So what happens is... This is a great puzzle.
Speaker: It is a great puzzle.
Speaker: You find the sheet music as Chris, and you go in, you find the piano room, and you just, you tell, you're like...
Speaker: You try to play it as Chris, and Chris doesn't play the piano, so it sounds like garbage.
Speaker: And then Rebecca enters the room, and she's like, holy shit, that was terrible.
Speaker: Not only am I a biology genius, but... So Rebecca then sits down and starts practicing it.
Speaker: You leave Rebecca there to practice, and then I think in the game you have to advance the plot a little bit before you can... By the time you get back, Rebecca has it ready to go, and then she plays Moonlight Sonata, and it opens a secret passage in the room.
Speaker: Yes, which does happen.
Speaker: in this chapter.
Speaker: It's just that she finds the sheet music where she is.
Speaker: It gives her a look.
Speaker: Yeah, she has a little bit more agency in this version.
Speaker: It's not like in the game.
Speaker: It's like it's all driven by Chris's actions in this.
Speaker: It's like she finds the music.
Speaker: She decides to play the music and it she's the one that kind of finds the the emblem.
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: And at this point, she recognizes this gold plate, this emblem, and realizes that it matches another one that's over the dining room fireplace and decides to go on her own to switch them out because she's a cop.
Speaker: Damn it.
Speaker: Like she has this.
Speaker: She's a goddamn cop.
Speaker: I'm gonna do it moment.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: And I won't lie to you, I'm just going to read out my note here.
Speaker: At this point, I've entirely lost track of puzzle pieces.
Speaker: I don't know where we are.
Speaker: Yeah, no, I'm I'm I'm trusting the book to keep track of it for me.
Speaker: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker: And thank God that the book I wanted to make to mention.
Speaker: They actually I forgot to point out that Chris and Rebecca, you know, I'll read this little passage.
Speaker: They hurried around the end of the long table past the elaborately decorated fireplace, stopping in front of the shattered pile.
Speaker: Chris nudged the great pieces with the tip of his boot.
Speaker: From the angles and shapes, it appeared to have been a statue of some kind.
Speaker: So this is actually another puzzle that they that S.D.
Speaker: Perry just like kind of throws in there that it's been solved by somebody else at some other time.
Speaker: And we don't need to talk about it.
Speaker: So there's a there's a in the dining room.
Speaker: There's a statue in the dining room of the second floor of the dining room that you can push over the ledge and the statue will fall, hit the ground and shatter.
Speaker: And there's something embedded into the statue.
Speaker: I forget exactly, specifically what it is, but it's like a piece to another puzzle that gets solved.
Speaker: And I thought this was kind of smart to be like, yeah, we don't need a, like, it's, it's almost just like an Easter egg of like, yeah, somebody did it.
Speaker: Somebody did the statue.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Somebody did the statue thing.
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: Oh, cool.
Speaker: Statue.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Statue.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: People, the people who played the game.
Speaker: Yes.
Speaker: The people who played the game are like, oh yeah, yeah, I did that.
Speaker: Cool, cool.
Speaker: Got it, got it.
Speaker: So we jump over to chapter 11 and Barry and Jill are doing the puzzle stuff.
Speaker: And then Barry decides to say the famous line.
Speaker: Well, the one that I even know about.
Speaker: Lucky for you, another couple of seconds and you would have been a Jill sandwich.
Speaker: Is it Jill?
Speaker: It's not Jill sandwich in the game.
Speaker: Yeah, he says that in the game.
Speaker: is a Jill.
Speaker: He's like, Oh, I saved you from becoming a Jill sandwich.
Speaker: And, and, and I'll tell you what, and I'll tell you what, what's the reason that he's making this God awful joke.
Speaker: He's hiding something.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: And Jill recognizes that she, she, which you know what?
Speaker: Good save.
Speaker: I know I said, I know I said the previous episode that the, one of the big mistakes that people who adapt stuff like this is they try to come up with an explanation for every little thing.
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: This one, I accept fully.
Speaker: I award full points.
Speaker: This is, it's like, oh, he's making a stupid joke because he's hiding something from her.
Speaker: That works.
Speaker: You know what?
Speaker: Honestly, 10 points to Gryffindor, uh, 10 points, 10 points, all 10 points.
Speaker: Um, we're not, we're not going to get into, you know what?
Speaker: I, I'll be honest.
Speaker: I, I don't even like Harry Potter that much, but I, I just, I just made the reference because it felt right.
Speaker: Um,
Speaker: It's just sometimes it feels good.
Speaker: Both Phil and I have a strong dislike for JK Rowling on her.
Speaker: Yes.
Speaker: Because of her stance on trans people and trans rights are human rights.
Speaker: And I figured this would be a good time to say it because I just made it.
Speaker: There's always a good time.
Speaker: I just made a Harry Potter reference and then I immediately felt.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: It left us unclean.
Speaker: Yeah, I got to go wash my hands.
Speaker: Yeah, I understand.
Speaker: And I'm back from washing my hands.
Speaker: Just like that.
Speaker: Just like that.
Speaker: The miracle of editing.
Speaker: Miracle of editing.
Speaker: It took him four and a half hours.
Speaker: It was a really, and he didn't turn his mic off.
Speaker: There was a lot of grunting.
Speaker: I feel weird.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: I mean, I had to stop and take a pee break in between latherings.
Speaker: That's an action word that bums me out.
Speaker: Lathering.
Speaker: That's, that's just lathering and lathering.
Speaker: I gotta be honest.
Speaker: It's a real bummer, man.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Total bummer.
Speaker: Oh, Lord.
Speaker: Jill is really certain that Barry is hiding something.
Speaker: But Barry is just like, oh, no, I'm just worried about Chris, you know?
Speaker: And then Jill kind of like, you know, she beats herself up thinking bad about Barry by saying, paranoid much?
Speaker: This is Barry Burton you're talking about, the backbone of raccoon stars, not to mention the man who just saved your life.
Speaker: What could he possibly be hiding?
Speaker: Newsflash, Jill, it's quite a lot.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: And now, and of course, the irony is that Jill's still hiding the little computer that the supposed Trent, if you will, I'm wildly gesticulating quotation marks here.
Speaker: Trent gave her.
Speaker: So what are you hiding, Jill?
Speaker: What are you hiding?
Speaker: I think she mentions that in the next paragraph.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Oh, she totally does.
Speaker: But she doesn't, she doesn't, I don't think she feels as bad about that as she is suspicious of Barry because she's a thief and once a thief, always a thief.
Speaker: And for our, for any of our listeners who don't know, thieves steal things.
Speaker: They do.
Speaker: So you can imagine.
Speaker: Jill then says to herself, that's it.
Speaker: Keep rationalizing.
Speaker: Next thing you'll be suspecting of Captain Wesker planning this whole thing.
Speaker: And wink.
Speaker: Wink.
Speaker: She looks at the camera.
Speaker: She winks.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: And credit.
Speaker: She does her Jim Halpert face.
Speaker: Jim Halpert face.
Speaker: It cuts to Dwight saying false.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: And that's the end of the chapter.
Speaker: It continues on for a quick.
Speaker: Office music plays and it ends with the Curb You're In That Enthusiasm theme song.
Speaker: Office music plays and it ends with a really unsatisfying final season.
Speaker: That's not it.
Speaker: So Jill and Barry split up again because they're stars to find more of the puzzle pieces that I've lost track of.
Speaker: There's like 15 or four.
Speaker: I don't know.
Speaker: Something like that.
Speaker: It's a lot.
Speaker: It doesn't matter because this is not the only puzzle piece.
Speaker: There's like there's there's the four puzzle pieces and then there's the crests and then there's the keys and then there's the like I don't like it doesn't matter.
Speaker: There's there's there are so many there are puzzles within puzzles and the book will tell me when we're good.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: And you know what?
Speaker: Thanks book.
Speaker: Thanks book.
Speaker: Thanks.
Speaker: Thanks for being there.
Speaker: Thanks for being a, the immutable written word.
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: I know it's real because I can read.
Speaker: I can read.
Speaker: Thanks.
Speaker: So forest is dead.
Speaker: Just add another name to that list.
Speaker: Chris.
Speaker: I'm sure we've got a good paragraph of backstory to read up on here.
Speaker: Well, he's a laughing southern good old boy with his ratty clothes and easy grin was no more.
Speaker: I'm gonna miss him so much.
Speaker: I'm gonna miss him.
Speaker: I'm gonna, you know.
Speaker: I'm gonna miss him.
Speaker: It's a shame.
Speaker: You know what Forest's favorite restaurant was?
Speaker: What was it?
Speaker: It was Lady and Sons down in Savannah.
Speaker: Where you can get the most authentic Southern style comfort food this side of the Mississippi.
Speaker: Like just so real.
Speaker: I didn't work there for six months.
Speaker: You didn't.
Speaker: You never worked there.
Speaker: I can't tell you what it's like in there or how the food tastes or how people would stop me and ask me if I could interrupt Miss Dean from working the kitchen
Speaker: to come out and take a picture because they believed that in order to stock a southern buffet on a Sunday in March, that Paula Deen was back there with the deep fat fryer.
Speaker: No, none of those things happened to me.
Speaker: Good.
Speaker: Good Fred chicken, though.
Speaker: Forrest really liked that lady and son's fried chicken.
Speaker: Who doesn't?
Speaker: I gotta say, I only ate there once, and I honestly felt like somebody had shot me in the neck with a bear tranquilizer for the rest of the day.
Speaker: As a man who has joyfully and purposefully enjoyed bear tranquilizers, it's a very similar feeling.
Speaker: Not all that dissimilar.
Speaker: The park service would like to know your location.
Speaker: No, they don't.
Speaker: Well, they do.
Speaker: That's just because I keep stealing their bear tranks.
Speaker: Where are we?
Speaker: Forrest Spare was dead, the good old Southern boy.
Speaker: Good old Southern boy.
Speaker: Paula Deen aficionado.
Speaker: Don't ask him about his opinions on the words that she uses, but yeah, still good.
Speaker: Still good.
Speaker: Forrest is like a, there's a bunch of differences in like a Chris playthrough and a Jill playthrough.
Speaker: There's like, you experience things differently.
Speaker: If I recall correctly, in Chris's playthrough, Forrest doesn't actually have anything on him, or he just has like a clip.
Speaker: And then in Jill's playthrough, you actually get a machine gun off of his body.
Speaker: Good Lord.
Speaker: That's one of the things that I vaguely recall.
Speaker: I'm probably wrong and will get many, many angry emails to know this is actually what Forrest had at gmail.com.
Speaker: Please, please send them there and I will...
Speaker: And if that kicks back, make sure to send an email to noneofthismatters at AOL.net.
Speaker: They really want to know.
Speaker: That will forward on to my other email address of the sun is going to explode in five billion years.
Speaker: Why do we care about anything at Yahoo.com?
Speaker: Yeah, that's good.
Speaker: That's good email real estate you got there.
Speaker: I'm surprised you picked that one up before anyone else did.
Speaker: You didn't have to do a serial number or anything.
Speaker: No, no.
Speaker: Pretty good.
Speaker: So anyway, Forrest was killed by the crows.
Speaker: Crows that we've already, we've kind of already talked about.
Speaker: Yeah, he got worked over.
Speaker: He got worked over.
Speaker: It sounded like crows, an entire flock, or a murder, actually.
Speaker: Pack of dogs, Kindle of kittens.
Speaker: I didn't know that that was a group of kittens.
Speaker: Kindle of kittens?
Speaker: I thought it was a litter.
Speaker: I thought that was what it was too.
Speaker: I thought, I thought, I thought both like puppies and kittens were litters.
Speaker: Um, a Kindle.
Speaker: Hey, baby, did you know it was a Kindle of kittens?
Speaker: A Kindle of kittens.
Speaker: That's what it's called.
Speaker: A Kindle.
Speaker: Why don't you ask Jonesy?
Speaker: You'd think he would know, but that, that little bastard has no interest in his own history.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: He knows nothing.
Speaker: Meanwhile, he's probably just even tell you who rum tum tugger is probably just under your desk, chewing on a cable at some, at this point.
Speaker: That is definitely, I'm amazed that more of my cables aren't completely shut to shit.
Speaker: So yeah.
Speaker: So yeah, then he makes the connection murder of crows because he's super clever.
Speaker: Very clever.
Speaker: He realizes that the birds are bad and he should feel bad.
Speaker: He runs away like a good old stars boy.
Speaker: He runs away.
Speaker: Always run from crows.
Speaker: Like the...
Speaker: Always.
Speaker: That is the first thing they teach you in Star's Train.
Speaker: And actually, a public service announcement.
Speaker: Birds will fuck you up.
Speaker: Yes, they absolutely will.
Speaker: That's not even a joke.
Speaker: This is actually me taking my joking face off and putting on my serious face, a la Mr. Rogers.
Speaker: I've put on the cardigan of seriousness.
Speaker: Plus two.
Speaker: I was going to say it's a plus one, but plus two.
Speaker: It's a good cardigan.
Speaker: It's definitely a plus two cardigan of seriousness.
Speaker: Plus two cardigan.
Speaker: Give yourself some credit here, man.
Speaker: Plus two.
Speaker: He's throwing it on and Mr. Rogers is here to tell you, run away from birds.
Speaker: Don't fuck with the birds.
Speaker: Don't fuck with the birds.
Speaker: It takes no time for
Speaker: Oh, look at those birds to turn into.
Speaker: Oh, sweet Jesus.
Speaker: Look at those birds.
Speaker: If it, it, we were, we were literally my, my fiance and I were hanging out one day and we looked outside and there were a couple of birds on a tree and we like birds.
Speaker: We like bird watching.
Speaker: And so she goes, Oh,
Speaker: Oh, look at those birds.
Speaker: And then about four other birds joined them, like within five seconds of her saying that her tone just went to, Oh, Jesus.
Speaker: Oh, look at those birds.
Speaker: Oh, no.
Speaker: Run from birds.
Speaker: That's our second t-shirt.
Speaker: I like this this fourth wall line here where Chris says, thinks to himself, this wasn't some kind of game where he could push a reset button if he missed a trick.
Speaker: People were dying.
Speaker: His friends were dying.
Speaker: I was like, I get it.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Nice.
Speaker: Nice.
Speaker: Pray there wasn't an auto save.
Speaker: He's stumbling around and Rebecca, Rebecca startled.
Speaker: He looks down to see the young stars member at the base of wide steps, grinning up at him.
Speaker: They they meet up and Rebecca kind of like breaks down what what happened.
Speaker: She she found the silver key.
Speaker: All is good.
Speaker: And here we go.
Speaker: We have a nice actually tie in to Resident Evil 2 where.
Speaker: Yes, yes.
Speaker: Chris thought about lying but saw that she wasn't going to buy it and realized suddenly what it was about her that made him feel so protective that made him want to shield her from the sad and sickening truth.
Speaker: Claire.
Speaker: That was it.
Speaker: Rebecca reminded him of his little sister from her tomboy sarcasm and quick wit to the way she wore her hair.
Speaker: So you're telling me, Chris, that you're feeling a brotherly concern.
Speaker: Okay.
Speaker: I believe.
Speaker: Sure.
Speaker: I believe, man.
Speaker: I believe you.
Speaker: 100%.
Speaker: Mm-hmm.
Speaker: Mm-hmm.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: And we're just going to box that up and we're going to move on, Chris, because we're just going to put that.
Speaker: We're going to take all that and put that right here on the side of the room where you can't trip over it.
Speaker: We're going to move on.
Speaker: We're going to move on.
Speaker: Chris lets Rebecca know that Forrest and Kenneth are quite dead.
Speaker: That's the end of that.
Speaker: Then we have a scene change.
Speaker: I referenced this in episode two of the show.
Speaker: This is the moment where Wesker is like full mask off bad guys.
Speaker: Prime, prime evil here.
Speaker: This is, we started out with like coy sleaziness.
Speaker: Then it got into standard.
Speaker: I'm threatening to kill your family nineties, bad guy territory.
Speaker: And here,
Speaker: We get into.
Speaker: Yeah, this is just gross.
Speaker: We get Wesker admitting that he pushed the statue off the balcony instead of searching around for things.
Speaker: And I believe here we go.
Speaker: him and he'd had the good fortune to run into Ellen Smith while he'd been in the library.
Speaker: Oops, scratch that.
Speaker: It's Dr. Ellen Smith.
Speaker: Thank you very much.
Speaker: And we get an entire backstory for Wesker about how so much, so much, by the way, so much like Stephen King levels of like, where did that come from out of nowhere?
Speaker: Can you tell me a little bit about Dr. Ellen Smith?
Speaker: OK, so Dr. Alan Smith was a scientist he'd been working with through all of this, and he'd asked her out a bunch of times.
Speaker: She'd always said no and given him that kind of cold ice queen treatment.
Speaker: And and and now.
Speaker: And he asked her on a date.
Speaker: She says no.
Speaker: And now in the present day, he gets to kill her because she's a zombie and he takes no small amount of pleasure in it.
Speaker: Just in case you needed to hate the guy more.
Speaker: If she hadn't been so damned good looking, he never would have bothered in the first place.
Speaker: But my, how your beauty has faded, Dr. Ellen.
Speaker: Wesker closed his eyes, smiling, reliving the experience.
Speaker: Jesus Christ.
Speaker: It's too cartoonily evil, but also very real at the same time.
Speaker: We've all met that guy who would be like, oh, fucking bitch.
Speaker: I wish she turned into a zombie.
Speaker: I excused to shoot her.
Speaker: Literally what he says.
Speaker: Wesker didn't like to think of himself as a shallow man, but pulling the trigger on that high riding bitch had been wonderfully, no, deeply gratifying.
Speaker: He is like he is a patron saint of fucking incels at this point.
Speaker: Oh, yeah.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: And this is also something that doesn't really age well.
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: Because now we're 20 years later.
Speaker: 23 years after this book is published.
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: And we've had literal we've we've had literal instances of incels perpetrating violence against women because because of bullshit like this.
Speaker: And obviously, I'm not.
Speaker: Don't get me wrong.
Speaker: I'm not saying that it's it's it's not it's not the media.
Speaker: It's not the portrayal in media that has caused the violence.
Speaker: It's just that this portrayal in media, which at the time felt so cartoonishly villainous, has suddenly become something that is almost too scarily real in 2021.
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: Yeah, my guess is that when faced with, you know, having an opportunity to make this character just ugly and gross in a way that everyone can appreciate and and no one's getting it doesn't have to be all that realistic and that sort of thing.
Speaker: In 1996, you know, S.D.
Speaker: Perry wrote this and and, you know, this was like, oh, yeah, this this guy's gross.
Speaker: This is awful.
Speaker: Never, never imagining how close to home this kind of shit would come, you know, nearly 30 years later.
Speaker: Like, how could she know?
Speaker: Like, that's absolutely it's so it does hit close to home in a really, really horrible way.
Speaker: But it does a great job of really making Wesker the absolute piece of shit that we want him to be or we need him to be to kind of buy into the story.
Speaker: And then there's the rest of his chapter is more or less more exposition dump as to like, you know, some of the science, some of the puzzle solving, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker: And it comes to a close with him finding a puzzle piece to the labs, which pisses him off because he had assumed that the labs wouldn't be locked.
Speaker: And so he realizes that this whole thing is going to be a lot harder than because originally finding the piece means the labs are locked as well.
Speaker: So it's just like an extra layer of bullshit that he has to go through.
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: What do I got to kill five more of my exes?
Speaker: God damn it.
Speaker: Damn it.
Speaker: This is the worst.
Speaker: Oh, what a lousy Tuesday this is turning out to be.
Speaker: And we'll leave it there for now.
Speaker: We made it through another, I'd say, about 20% of the book, and we're coming in on the homestretch here.
Speaker: Yeah, we got some big nasties coming our way, which is kind of a prerequisite for Resident Evil anything.
Speaker: I kind of appreciate that.
Speaker: It's like, sure, there's zombies and monsters, but then like a solid 50% of the monsters are just oversized versions of
Speaker: of regular animals absolutely and you know what it works just fine we're we're once works just where it's 2021 we've just King Kong versus Godzilla which is has has just been released into theaters again and I mean it those are that's just a giant ape and a giant the iguana type lizard
Speaker: It's a giant ape versus a giant metaphor for a nuclear war in Japan.
Speaker: And that's just a tale as old as time.
Speaker: Tale as old as time.
Speaker: So if it's good enough for our kaijus, it's good enough for Resident Evil.
Speaker: Damn right.
Speaker: I don't know why I got so aggressive there.
Speaker: Anyway, I'm Kevin.
Speaker: That's been Phil.
Speaker: We'll see you next time.
Speaker: Later, guys.
