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RIP Mr MX-5, used EV battery checks made easy and more 911 money woes!
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Sad news this week as the man behind the Mazda MX-5, Tom Matano passes away.
Paddy has had a good experience with the Ford Puma Gen-E this week doing his usual Dublin-Cork-Dublin road trip.
Should a dealer ever be bringing your car home at night when it's in for work?
And Mark has another expensive week keeping a near 20 year old Porsche 911 on the road!
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Transcript
Introduction and Hosts' Weekly Recap
00:00:00
Speaker
Hello and welcome to the Drivers Republic podcast brought to you in association with Dundeele Cars, Ireland's favourite car buying website. With the widest selection of cars from certified trusted dealerships, most Irish drivers find their next car on Dundeele Cars.
00:00:12
Speaker
Hello, hello Mark. Hello Paddy, what's the story? How are you? You've been busy this week. Yeah, yeah, quite a busy week. How's your week been, firstly? It's it's also been being a bit frantic.
Volkswagen Golf: Enduring Appeal Despite Costs
00:00:24
Speaker
um I haven't yet, but I'm off after this to collect a Volkswagen Golf. Because I just thought, you know, obviously you get the the natural feed of press cars every week and every month and what ah what's on. But I just thought, and I think from chatting to you as well,
00:00:39
Speaker
The Golf has had a bit of a it's it's almost an underground car now. It doesn't it sells itself, maybe. Yeah, and I remember speaking to Martin Cardiff, who was on the podcast a few weeks back, and and he was saying that the Golf has really seen a resurgence for them.
00:00:55
Speaker
And it's quite an expensive car now, the new. Well, the O-line, yeah. No, but any of them now new are pretty expensive. I don't think there's such thing as a cheap one. I remember time when I worked there that there was one that snuck in under 20 grand.
00:01:08
Speaker
Yeah. Wow. Yeah, and it was $19,995 and that those days are gone for sure. so So yeah,
Car Repair Experiences and Pre-Purchase Inspections
00:01:15
Speaker
yeah it's it does really well for them now because there's a bit of a thing where people are like, look, I don't want an SUV and I'm not really sure I don't want an EV. Don't Maybe, yeah. So just give me a Golf.
00:01:26
Speaker
I just want to find out is still a sillyr relevant car in 2025 slash six? Do you know what? You are going to get into the thing and it's going to feel like wrapping a warm blanket around yourself because it'll just be so familiar, so nice. Everything is in the right place.
00:01:38
Speaker
ah Sure, they messed around a little bit with the with the haptic buttons and the controls, but I think that's that's ah that's going to be fixed. For me, 7 or 7.5 was Yeah. tungsten.
00:01:50
Speaker
i that was i remember having a seven point five gti manual in tungsten and it was all the car you need i so regret not buying that car because obviously you know i would i would say i would still have it it just did everything right it wasn't even bad on fuel but it was it i didn't put any options on it out of the wrapper and bought a car so so yeah i missed that one So that's what I'm doing later on. I've also been torturing myself because, well, I've had an expensive week with my own car. I spent €1,500. Dave O'Brien, ah poor specialist in Ballymount who do excellent work.
00:02:29
Speaker
ah Like all good specialists, they're not necessarily the cheapest person you can get your car fixed at. But I had a thing called a tandem pump on my 911 sorted. So my driveway is no longer covered or being dripped in oil.
00:02:42
Speaker
So I watched the video, Mark, and I and i really like these updates on the 911. They're very relatable. And what struck me is you showed that work in inverted commas, if you're not on videos of doing the rabbit ears, that was done on on your car to patch things up.
00:03:00
Speaker
Can you tell us bit more about that? and in the sense of what else needs to be done or sorry they showed a clip in the video where there was it looked like oh sorry yes sorry patch up job done in the car literally patch up yeah so so ah yeah Dave sent me photograph a
Electric Vehicles: Power vs. Safety and Efficiency
00:03:15
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few hours into the job and said someone was here before I said, not in good way, I suspect.
00:03:22
Speaker
No, I said, is that car putty? And he sent back a laughy face going, well, kind of. It's it's a metal kind of sealant. So a tandem pump, as far as I know, is actually a porous part. i don't know why Porsche put porous parts on cars, but they do. And they did.
00:03:38
Speaker
So it will always go over time. and But obviously just to get that car back in the road, maybe it was in between being sold somewhere along the line. I don't even know when it was done or who did it. Basically, it's like this green, slimy looking sealant. that and And you could see actually at the bottom where someone is like a pinhole had obviously formed.
00:03:56
Speaker
And that's where because the oil wasn't, you know, it wasn't bursting out of the car. It was still driving and all that. And there was no lights or anything on. So it wasn't leaking in enough oil to even justify the the light coming on.
00:04:06
Speaker
ah So that basically just gave way. But it just shows you that, you know, it doesn't matter what the car is, if if it is in between a sale or maybe it's gone to a trader and like, you know, someone just wants a quick fix.
00:04:18
Speaker
and and let's get it back on the road again. So, yeah, I suppose it's another reminder. i I didn't in this car um get a pre-purchase inspection. You can get them done for about €400. They put cameras into the car to check for bore scoring. They'll do the usual appraisal of everything that could potentially be, you know, a problem down the road or whatever.
00:04:37
Speaker
i think definitely worth getting done if you're buying anything exotic. would Would that issue have come up? Would that have been a deep dive enough in the inspection? I would imagine so, particularly particularly if it was leaking. So my understanding is this part is actually, they had to take the exhaust off to get at this part. So I i don't know if you've visually seen it, but, you know, Dave was able to have a look when the car was up at a ramp, looking at the RMS part of the, underneath the car and said, well, that's not leaking yet, but...
00:05:09
Speaker
it you know it will in the next 12 months you need that sorted. So I think that's the other beauty. A lot of people are commonly saying, oh, specialist, you know, any old mechanic can work on these cars. Of course they can. You know, lots of the parts have a VW badge on them, I suspect. But the point is, when you're used to seeing these cars every day, it's like going to your GP.
00:05:26
Speaker
You can Google it, right? But
Ford Mustang Mach-E Review and EV Insights
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if you go to your GP and, ah you know, you have to show them something or explain something, there's a good chance they've seen it before. and And I always use the analogy, does anyone want to get the cheapest vasectomy?
00:05:40
Speaker
Exactly. Exactly. Sure, you can sure you can you probably get your butcher to do it. but ah Did you go to the same guy I recommended or did you go somewhere else? I went to a place in Bath Avenue.
00:05:52
Speaker
i went I found the most expensive one I could find. Yeah. yeah So I think that's one of those things. i was well Search by price for vasectomies. Tell you what, you could get three vasectomies done for the price of a tandem pump on a 911.
00:06:05
Speaker
Right. So, yeah, either way, your tandem pump is removed. One or the other is not reversible. No, no. I want to start this week with a question, Mark. How electric cars become too fast already?
00:06:21
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comes on foot of news that the U9 Extreme, previously known as the U9 Track Edition, which is... that very expensive BYD, has set a top speed record of 496.22 kilometers per hour at Germany's automotive testing Pappenberg in September, surpassing the 490.48 kilometers set by debugati in two thousand is this the Is this the Yang Wang or is this a spin-off? The Yang Wang.
00:06:49
Speaker
The world's this car has the firstest fastest car. but so So obviously with electric vehicles, they can just go bananas with horsepower and vertigo. So, it does, you know, ah interesting video that I saw on Wired to give credit to them.
00:07:04
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and And I was posing the question, you know, have EV manufacturers lost the plot already? Now, obviously, this car was just to show to show what can be done. But showcased in that video that there is now a Volvo EX30 Jew motor that has a faster zero to 100 kilometer time than Porsche 911T. I've driven It's mad. A car that is aimed at sort of urban environments, families, Volvo, the world's probably one of the world's safest car brands, is producing a car that has that sort of acceleration, three and a half seconds, I think it is, to 100 kilometers per hour.
00:07:44
Speaker
And the the question is, why is this happening? Is it necessary? and would these manufacturers not be better off
Chinese Cars and Cultural Influences
00:07:51
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focusing on the thing that people want, which is range? It's a good question.
00:07:56
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It's something that I've thought of a lot. And also Volvo are always the one that kind of starts the conversation because they are, know, famous for being so safe. But for quite a long time, actually, they have been producing even the recharge versions, which could have been plug-in hybrids.
00:08:12
Speaker
They had like 400 plus brake horsepower, twin motors, nothing to do with Polestar. These were just, you know, and you can get the Olins dampers on them. Yeah. Is it, are they overcompensating for the added weight?
00:08:27
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Is it just to, you know, give another USB to EVs to make them a bit more attractive? But there is no doubt. I mean, any, even ID.4 now has an almost, it's nearly 300 brake horsepower car.
00:08:39
Speaker
ah You know, 20 years ago, an E46 M3 had slightly more brake horsepower. And, know, I actually am surprised we don't see more accidents with them where people just aren't aware of how quick they can be. Maybe just and people get used to them quickly. I don't know what it is, but you know your average family car now has way more brake horsepower than it would have if it was a 1.5. Well, I would put forward that the people who are buying them aren't interested necessarily in
Understanding EV Battery Health Over Mileage
00:09:07
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the speed they have them.
00:09:08
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We're not necessarily seeing the accidents perhaps because they're just not being driven like that by the people who buy them. You know, petrol heads like petrol cars, and you know, the that cohort hasn't moved across.
00:09:21
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just yet to the, um to the EV. So maybe we're not seeing those accidents, but it just, it struck me as, as a really valid point. You know, if you're in, think you know, think of some of the Polestars, the dual motor Polestars. Yeah, yeah. Absolutely bonkers.
00:09:36
Speaker
Absolutely bonkers. So, and you know, where, where are we going to go to that? Where is the point where they're going to say, right, this is enough because how quickly do you need to get to 100 kilometers per hour?
00:09:47
Speaker
You know, is there, I would imagine that the, you know, even on a, You know even on a a road that allows it, it's not a particularly safe thing to try and do is to get there as quickly as possible.
00:09:58
Speaker
No, and quite often the suspensions can't really cope with the power. Like that's the overriding fact that I thought with the BYD C-Line 7, it was dual motor. And I got a lot of BYD fans in the YouTube comments telling me I didn't know what the hell I was talking about. And it's just very simple fact.
00:10:13
Speaker
The brakes didn't feel capable of of bringing that 500 plus brake horsepower car to a stop. The suspension couldn't cope with it. It was uncomfortable. was body roll. You could see the chassis trying its best to manage the power through a corner.
00:10:26
Speaker
And as you say, would these cars not be way more efficient, extracting more range if they had, I'm not saying half, but I drove the new Kia last week in Malaga. It's 200 brake horsepower, front wheel drive car.
00:10:38
Speaker
It was plenty, loads of torque anyway. Loads of power, plenty of power. Yeah, I mean, I worked in the EA before, one of my several jobs. And at the time, EVs were sort of just coming on stream into main vehicles.
00:10:53
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you know, the mainstream because ID4 and the likes had come. and And a lot of the initial problems from the AA's point of
Tribute to Tom Matano and Car Legacy
00:10:59
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view were tires, particularly, you know, two, three tires at once failing.
00:11:04
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So that's on the back of a truck. You can't tow something like that because it's 2.2 tons. um And various other components, you know, suspensions were having issues.
00:11:15
Speaker
Because huge weight, sometimes shitty roads, and the result is that some of these were having issues. So again, the basic one had 204 horsepower. So it just seems like an unusual situation.
00:11:33
Speaker
and Following on from that, though, a car i want to talk about this week is one that I have outside, which is the Ford Mustang Mach-E. And i was on my travels again, as I do,
00:11:44
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and from Dublin to to Cork earlier in the, or sorry, towards the tail end the last week. and And we'd spoken last week about the Citroen EC3. the This is a totally different prospect. And it's a car that I've really warned you. get Similar size battery, 44 kilowatt hour battery, little bit more expensive, obviously, to to purchase.
00:12:06
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but just radically different performance from this car. I mean, radically different. and I, no trip computer in the Citroen. So, you know, I figured out that I was doing about 19 or 20 kilowatt hours per 100 kilometer on the motorway, 100 kilometers per hour, no air conditioning on.
00:12:28
Speaker
And I had some comments from people, you know, no one drives at 100 kilometers per hour on motorway.
Workshop Ethics and Listener Interaction
00:12:35
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from the trucks, obviously, which are What do they do? Oh, people speed, like.
00:12:39
Speaker
Yeah, so that. well you Well, you could, you could do 120 to Cork, can't you? yeah its No, you can do, sorry, the limit is 120, but some people were giving out that I was driving in 100 kilometres per hour. I was in the left-hand lane. There's no trucks overtaking me. It's not a target. It's not a target, to quote the Gardaí.
00:12:54
Speaker
Yeah, so um so so the reason I do that is just for continuity. Like, it's the, you know, you sure you could do 120, but physics, physics you know, in a heavier car, yeah yeah it takes an awful lot more ah effort to get from 100 120. So I tend to stick to 100 and I just leave the air coming off just for and control.
00:13:14
Speaker
It's also a very relevant test because one of the questions you get is for people, you know, can I do the longer journeys in an EV? So, and and you're not always doing them in large battery sized cars. You're doing them in something like the Puma Gen E and so it seems to be quite efficient. It is efficient. So, so in this car, um now again, I was leaving at about 16 degrees um and I was getting 12 or 13 kilowatt hours per hundred kilometers in that car.
00:13:43
Speaker
So just a radically different performance. And the trip computer in that is also quite conservative because when it shows that you're down at sort 18, 19%, it seems to almost be, you know, adjusted down so that your range is your available range technically if you're working out, right, I'm driving 100 kilometers per hour, my battery's this size, you know, it was showing me that I had 29 kilometers of range left, whereas I probably had about 37 kilometers of range. It was actually, was actually erring on the side of caution for that.
00:14:14
Speaker
But them yeah, so from from last week's one where I was ah stopped at Duro and gave up and because I wasn't going to get to Fermoy, I arrived at Fermoy with about 20% battery.
00:14:27
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um And, you know, just really, really impressive. So it wasn't 20%, but had 37, 37, 37 kilometers left. I think was 12 batteries. Sorry. And that resulted then in stop to chart for how long? and batteries sorry but um and did that resist ah resulted then in their stop to show it for how long 10 minutes?
00:14:45
Speaker
I would always have to go, i would probably know unless it's a fairly big battery car, I would generally have to stop somewhere because I live another 40 minutes from Formoy. So I've chosen Formoy as my destination because I can work out pretty much everything from the range doing that set test from Sandiford to Formoy. So and I stopped and charged and the Puma was gobbling down charge at speeds of 80, 90 kilowatts, which was pretty impressive. So I was on my way again pretty soon and
00:15:22
Speaker
It's also one of the most entertaining cars are of those CDs that I've driven in some time. You've spent time in this, by the way, have you? Owning abroad. i Yeah, I don't know how the Ford's booking is working these days. Do they do they contact you or how how does how and does that work? i haven't i went i was I couldn't make the launch, so I asked for ask for a date instead. go go got a reason you and so It's really entertaining to drive on a back road. It has some of the You know, when when Fords were fun wired into it, there's a bit of a sound to it when you push it on.
00:16:00
Speaker
And and <unk> nice it's a nice seating position. Yeah. you can get Good steering feel. Yeah, set up and drive position. so Really impressive car. It's been, perhaps not last year, but it's it's been quite regularly the best-selling car in the UK.
00:16:18
Speaker
Yeah, well, in the UK. The Puma, not the electric version. So that's why suppose they really do have to try and make it as, not that they're making the car efficient just for the UK market, but it's a pretty big market for them.
00:16:29
Speaker
And, and um you know, if you're trying to get someone out of ah Puma into an electrical industry, You can't be offered them half the range of your of their petrol one, I suppose.
00:16:41
Speaker
Yeah, absolutely. And and ah I was on LMFM in Dorada last week and the presenter, Jerry Kelly, was is a Puma owner and is now considering getting this one. And he said and something that struck him was the fact that in the standard for Puma, there was only one stock.
00:16:58
Speaker
And now all the controls were on on one stock. And in the electric version, you go back to having two two stocks again. and It seems like there was more effort put into the... The boot is also ridiculous. Both myself and Dave Humphries managed... not Not at the same time, but we both climbed into the boot. There's a 100 kilo load limit in the megabox.
00:17:18
Speaker
So unless you're a particularly overweight or maybe a very tall person... yeah you'll you'll fit you that can take your weight you could wash a small child in it you could have you know put the football boots from the training sessions with the kids and there's a drain hole in the bottom of it so it is actually a very practical car and there's a lot more interior space than you would expect it's just a little bit expensive it needs a little bit of a haircut Yeah, it does. I mean, the one I have is 41 grand. think it starts at 32. The one I have very well equipped.
00:17:51
Speaker
Yeah, I know, but you could buy an X-Bine G6 for that. Oh, of course. Close to it anyway. Of course. And look, if the sales numbers don't... you could go I would imagine you'll see haircut soon.
00:18:02
Speaker
You could buy a Leap Motor C10, which I've been driving this week. Again, not not exactly price for price, but starting from 39 grand. i I don't ah Look, i haven't made the video. Well, I haven't made the video yet. So, you know, I don't have too many spoilers. Don't give it away.
00:18:17
Speaker
um I do feel you're kind of a beta tester driving that car right now. Oh, really? It's like, man. Tell us what they said.
00:18:28
Speaker
So, but but it is quite efficient. It's, it's you know, 15 kilowatt hours per 100 kilometers. And again, it has a little, of it's about 218 brake horsepower to the rear wheels. Loads of power, absolutely loads of power.
00:18:41
Speaker
I was thoroughly enjoying winding someone up last night between the M50 in my house. It was in an insignia or something with end plates on the car. And right they just, every time... To be worried, yeah.
00:18:53
Speaker
Every time the lights went green, you could hear them revving the hell out of it. And then within about three seconds... The C10 was just gone. See you later. carrigan So it starts from 39. There's a range extender version with a 1.5 petrol ah engine, which never actually drives the front wheels. It tops up the battery. We've seen this before. I'm in the EV.
00:19:14
Speaker
You know, the the interior is very spacious. It could look like any other car. People who I, you know, just have a passing interest in cars this week said to me, oh, God, that looks like a Porsche Jeep or a Range Rover Sport. It's in black.
00:19:26
Speaker
Yeah, it could be. It could be. um But the only thing is like little quirky things like so the seat comes back to get you into the car. Easy entry, it's called. Sometimes it returns to your saved spot.
00:19:38
Speaker
Sometimes it doesn't. If you've ever been in a BMW, we were the first time I encountered this, where you put the car in reverse and the mirror on the passenger side dips down to help you park the car, not curb your wheels. It dips in the C10.
00:19:50
Speaker
Sometimes it doesn't come back. It stays dipped. am Ever. when you when Ever. And then to to manipulate it, you've got to go to a screen to adjust it like in a Tesla, but a Tesla is even probably quicker.
00:20:04
Speaker
and what What way do you push down the button when you want to open an electric window, Paddy? I would push it down. Yeah, no. It's up in a C10. So you pull up to for the windows to go down. You push up for the windows to go down and you push down for the windows to go up. Right.
00:20:23
Speaker
I don't know why. Is it for the Australian market? I just... works What way does the water go down the bath over there? So when you open the door to get out, you know, some cars now have this safe exit warning to, you know, tell you if there's a pedestrian cyclist coming up on your inside.
00:20:40
Speaker
The C10 just puts the driver's side indicator on when you open the door. Now, i don't know if that's on purpose or not. and they They claim they can do over-the-air updates. They've done 26 over-the-air updates since the car was first tested by media.
00:20:53
Speaker
it It still needs some more over the air updates. Right. Yeah. do you you kindt Do you want to plug it in and just leave it for a day or two and see see what happens? Let the magic happen. It's a what look, I mean, it's it's too early for you to say. i know the video when video is probably out next week, is it?
00:21:09
Speaker
um But, you know, what can you can you give us a couple of bits you like and don't like? The interior space fantastic. The boot's only okay. boot's about 430. So Kia EV3, Skoda Elrock, both have bigger boots. And the C10, it's a bigger footprint of car. you know you kind of But the interior rear leg room is amazing. So if you have teenagers or young adults in your family, it would be great for that.
00:21:33
Speaker
and My only main gripe is, you know, it's it's a bit like, you know, little Johnny has the potential but could do better in in school. That's kind of how I feel. Like with some over the up over the air update tweaks, tweaks even, it will be a better car. You know, it's got McPherson and a five link independent suspension on the back. So it absorbs bumps.
00:21:52
Speaker
It's got the usual SUV body roll. But um i just that that space now is so competitive a bit like now as we're seeing with the smaller cars so there's other things in the market um that that will software wise at least perform better but it is very efficient for a big car but i'm already starting to struggle to tell the differences between some of the new chinese entrants i see them on the road like i look at them and i go oh is that the what's the that again So, yeah, it's going to take a while to put this bed in.
00:22:22
Speaker
also, you know, it's separate. And I do get, I'm not going to hide behind it. Quite often under Chinese branded cars, you would get comments about human rights issues. And obviously they they have to be getting state funding to make these cars the price they are.
00:22:37
Speaker
Yesterday for my other hat, my Radio Nova hat, I was just doing some prep for the show. And there's a film that was out in Sundance at the start of the year. um And it was basically about a same sex couple story.
00:22:52
Speaker
And there's a shower scene where a guy is naked, but the Chinese version has been altered. So they put steam into the scene so you couldn't see his parts. And then then there's and another so part of the and film where they literally they they've put a woman's head on a man's head.
00:23:16
Speaker
Because you can't have any of that over here. And then I did it down more. No, there's no no one gay in China, of course. No. Well, they're not very, you know, accepting of LGBTQ plus rights and stuff. So um like Florence Pugh in Oppenheimer, she was in the birthday suit.
00:23:34
Speaker
They AI'd a black dress on to her. So they're they're fully, and this is common practice in China. Now, not that all ah all Chinese people agree with it, but it does give you a little snapshot into it is a different world.
00:23:47
Speaker
you know And many of us haven't been to China on our holidays. So and unless you have been there, it like you know there are colleagues of ours who have been. it it would not be unusual for them to go into your room on a press trip and help themselves to a little look through your bag and what you're writing and what you're taking pictures of. And, you know, it it is a very different place. And I'm not being, oh, European car pro here versus Chinese. I think ultimately people will will vote with their pockets. And, you know, maybe if European manufacturers can make their cars more affordable, everyone wins out of this.
00:24:24
Speaker
But there definitely is an argument that, know, humans living in China don't necessarily get the same freedom and liberties that we do in this part of the world. That we enjoy, for sure.
00:24:35
Speaker
For sure. Well, look, let's take a quick break um and we'll be back after the break to talk about... I can't see you there, Paddy. There's some steam coming over here. Sorry, I've been moved out of the way. Yeah, we're goingnna we're going to come back and talk about a new ah product that diagnoses the state of health of your battery and we'll have a quick chat about used EV values after the break.
00:24:54
Speaker
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00:25:06
Speaker
So one of your many projects this week was to go talk to people about stuff. Yeah, yeah. I went to... Kill there. I was in Kill down at Goffs basically. There's a golf club down there and it was to see something that I'd i heard about before. I'd spoken to them years ago when I was the AA but it's it's a company called Avalu and Avalu don't make toilets.
00:25:31
Speaker
They make... have a loo, love? Do you have a loo? I do have a loo. and They make a diagnostic system, which is very simple to use. That tells you the state of health, the S-O-H, and that phrase is going to be one that we get very familiar with over the next while.
00:25:49
Speaker
of and of a battery. So it can be just, it doesn't have to be just an EV, it can obviously be a plug-in hybrid battery. And it's very simple to use. It's a flash sort of drive that goes into the OBD. It's a little box.
00:26:02
Speaker
And you plug that into the onboard diagnostic system. and you do You have to plug the seatbelt in, turn the car on, then turn it back off, put it into drive, sorry, and then put it back at into park.
00:26:17
Speaker
And then three minutes later, you can see the box doing its thing, dancing lights. Three minutes later, you get a report sent to your um into your mobile phone or your desktop or whatever. And for anyone on video, I'm going to briefly show you one here.
00:26:35
Speaker
and For those listening, it is and a battery certificate, which has, this was on a BMW 5 Series plug-in, five thirty e Mileage was 65,000 kilometers and 91.5%.
00:26:48
Speaker
They also had which was Mercedes-Benz EQC 400 with an 85 kilowatt hour battery. Mileage that was 37,928 kilometers. State health, 97.8%. but an eighty five kilowatt hour battery mile that was thirty seven thousand nine hundred and twenty eight kilometers state of health ninety seven point eight so um So two different cars, um similar and enough um vintage, I suppose, but two quite different results.
00:27:16
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And, you know, what really struck me about this, Mark, is that state of health in an EV or plug-in hybrid, for me, potentially more so with the BEV, it's probably better marker when buying a used EV than mileage.
00:27:36
Speaker
Oh, well, it's the new, has the timing belt been done? You know, how many services has has it had? And the kid i mean, that is a brilliant product because it gives, ah I'd assume, a lot of peace of mind to people if they're buying a used car. And I think we're going to, we've spoken with this before, you're going to see more of this on windscreens in used four-court premises because, you know, again, it it's it gives you reassurance.
00:28:02
Speaker
and So was that that was a G35 series, was it? Because there is a five thirty in the new model, but there's not that many of them around. No, it's G30. It was a couple of years old. So that was always kind of a 40, 50-kilometer range car.
00:28:17
Speaker
Yeah, so, but but see, you're now working off 90% of that at maximum. Yeah, so and that's a car that can't do fast charging. So that was only charged at someone's house or, you know, maximum of, I don't even know, it does it do 7kW? It might be 3.6 something.
00:28:32
Speaker
Yeah, I think it's slow. but but But interestingly enough, and and we'll hear from Alex Millinger later, asking him, and they've done 300,000 of these tests so far. So they have 300,000 data points, you know, cars, individual cars that they have data on.
00:28:48
Speaker
lot of research. Yeah. And it's amazing to to ask, you know, what are the factors that contribute to your battery, you know, the state of health your battery dropping?
00:28:59
Speaker
And there were ones that we probably knew about fast charging. um repeated, repeated, repeated fast charging. It heats the battery up significantly and it is, they are seeing quite a significant effect.
00:29:14
Speaker
I had wrongly assumed um that you could charge to 100% frequently enough if you were doing it home or you know on a ball box or whatever that it wasn't really going to be too much of an issue no i was wrong on that yeah they want people charge no more than 90 percent um they're seeing you know for the best sort of results they would say okay we don't don't drive too aggressively don't so you know obviously there's you know we were just talking before the break about cars and having crazy acceleration and doing all sorts of 3.5 seconds.
00:29:50
Speaker
If people are doing that, they're affecting the state of health of their battery. If they're charging um almost entirely on fast chargers, and when you consider, like I, but over the course of my week with most press cars, only fast charge because I might head to Dublin, stop it for charge, go to Dublin,
00:30:15
Speaker
turn around, stop at Junction 14 and go again. So a constant rotation of fast charging. And there are are probably lots of people who, you know for a living, spend time driving around you know the country and they're probably only fast charging or or majority fast charging. And it'll be interested interesting to see what that is doing to the state of health of the cars. Now, it doesn't mean that you know, all cars are going to be wrecked in after after a couple of years. He gave told me the example of a Tesla Model 3 that they had seen 400,000 kilometers on and the state of health at the body was 86%, which is incredible. Yeah, it is. I've seen a lot of videos of Model S's as well, but with high, high mileage and similar, um,
00:31:01
Speaker
like years and years ago, like 10 years ago, one of the first drones they ever bought from DJI had a feature built in that if you charge the batteries to 100% and you didn't use it by day five, they would automatically discharge to 50%.
00:31:15
Speaker
So we've always known this about lithium-ion batteries. ah Maybe LFPs are slightly less susceptible to this, but unless you're doing, like if you know you're doing a big, long journey in the morning, charge your car to 100% overnight, no problem.
00:31:30
Speaker
But don't do that all the time. And, you know, the problem is leaving fully charged. Any of those batteries are bursting full of energy. yeah And if it's sitting there 100%, it's got nowhere to expel that energy.
00:31:42
Speaker
Yeah. And I suppose, you know, we've been talking recently about long journeys. I did a quick video during the week about charging curves using the Citroen as an example.
00:31:53
Speaker
ah So many people don't understand the charging curve and, you know the fact that, OK, when you charge these cars at chargers, the car itself is going to slow down the speed of the charge to protect the battery. So, you know, we've all been in situations where we're waiting for a charging point and someone there is charging to 100%. Now, they've probably taken 30 minutes to get to 80% and it's another 35 minutes to get from 80 to 100%. I'd say.
00:32:20
Speaker
Yeah, in the Citroen that I was using at the start, I was getting 61 kilowatts out of the charger. By the end, I was down at eight.
00:32:31
Speaker
Wow. It's definitely different. So many of us have mobile our phones. Just look at that, for example. You know, the phone will really quickly charge to 80% and then it will slow down. It's the same idea. It's the same chemistry-ish.
00:32:47
Speaker
So, like, I have a power bank that actually has a display on it. And you can see, like, the iPhone will charge certainly up to about maybe 25 watts and then it will trail off. Exact same thing. But yeah, you are wasting your time. The whole point is like, unless you're driving somewhere really far, surely when you get to 80% of the fast charger, you don't enough to get home and just be on your way.
00:33:07
Speaker
Yeah, and it's about timing as well. like when I'm doing a lot of my long journeys, if I'm not doing a range test, I'm charging to 60, 70%. I'm driving off again. i might stop again, 60, 70%. sixty seventy percent So, and so, cause it's just about the speed of getting up. I would say that it makes sense if you're driving long journeys and you know, you're going to have to stop is to drive as close to zero as, as you feel comfortable with, because the bulk of the speed of charging happens at the start of that charge curve. So if you're, and when you plug in at eight, sorry, go on.
00:33:40
Speaker
What do they say about going down to zero or close to zero? Is that also like, is 20 to 80 the sweet spot? Yeah, 20 to 80 is the sweet spot. that the you know they don't you know the They didn't actually make a huge point about it being the lower end, but they did stress that it's the fast charging, the the rough acceleration.
00:33:59
Speaker
um And the charging over 90%, even you know up to 90% that they sort of said is all right. So 80 is obviously optimum, but there's no major issue at 90. They feel that they're from the data that a lot of the damage has been caused beyond 90 and from fast charging.
00:34:17
Speaker
do think that, you know, not driving hard is a bit of a funny one because it's a bit like, you know, again, in the petrol diesel world, having a nice three litre engine, you're going to stretch his legs from time to time. There was a guy in front of me yesterday in a BYD seal, the twin motor version with the 3.4 or whatever on the badge on the back.
00:34:35
Speaker
And he kept pulling these huge gaps and then obviously just getting stuck in traffic. But, ah you know, you've bought the extra motor version for the power. And now you're being told, well, go easy on that now.
00:34:49
Speaker
Yeah, well, look, I mean, you can do what you like with your own car, but the, what the evidence suggests is, is that when you come back, and this is what's going to likely be in the future, more of a metric valuing these cars than necessarily the mileage. because Well, yeah, suspension and tires are easier to replace than the battery. so So if you're going in, you're going to be faced with the prospect of, all right, Mark, we have one here that has 80,000 kilometers on it, but on the battery state of health is 90%, or we have one with 40,000 kilometers 60%.
00:35:25
Speaker
Obviously an extreme example, but you know which one you're going to go for. um Is battery size relative to damage or is it just you know less or more to lose? all individual. i mean, they they have three types of tests. There's the flash one, there's the standard one.
00:35:42
Speaker
Then there's a sort of a premium one. Then there's an expert one. The premium and the expert one involve you know, actual driving of the car, but they're saying even at the expert one, they don't quote a price because it's individual towards each model. So they're very specific and, and, and even doing one for the Tesla's are all is quite tricky. There's a whole lot of different weird procedures you have to go through. So that's the trickiest one to test.
00:36:09
Speaker
But um but otherwise otherwise, it's pretty straightforward. Like they when they they did the they tried was sorry they tried the Puma or Gen E that I had, they didn't have data on that yet because it's such a new car.
00:36:22
Speaker
But by the fact of you know, they'll have that for me fairly soon because they have done it now on my car. So I'm interested to get that that data back. So... and While I was there, I spoke to Alex Millinger who's from Avalu and I put some questions to him about what the product is um and also what it does and we can listen to him now.
00:36:43
Speaker
Alex, I've seen a really interesting presentation today on how Avalu works. Tell people who aren't familiar with what the product does, you know very simply, what what do you get from an Avalu report? um You get an independent and battery certificate.
00:36:58
Speaker
So, which produced with our unit produced Austria in roughly three minutes. Just to connect the unit to the OBD, put the car in drive mode and then after three minutes you get the whole result where you can see the diagnostic um state of health of the battery.
00:37:16
Speaker
It's probably fair to say that when you're buying an electric car the state of health of the battery is probably more important than something like mileage. Would I prefer to say that? and Yes, because um when we are looking in the battery and there are different ah types of driving with the car, and the indication of ah the state of health as a battery is, from my perspective, much more um important than just the mileage because it can be different way of driving, aggressive driving, fast charging, all this stuff.
00:37:47
Speaker
You've done over 300,000 tests on EVs over the past few years. Are there things that consumers should know in terms of keeping their battery healthy? ah Yes, we can say about, also we have to admit that ah different OEMs, different ah batteries, so we ah can't make an overall perspective, but what what we can say, for example, i ah fast charging.
00:38:14
Speaker
so Maybe also make a normal charging, still charging, or just don't keep the car um on the charger when it's already by 100% for the next couple of weeks when you go on holiday.
00:38:26
Speaker
so and um And also, um you don't need to charge to 100%. You can also, for the battery, it helps also for 90%. Yeah, these are things people might necessarily have ever been told. So it's interesting to get that sort of and information.
00:38:41
Speaker
If someone wants to get a report, is this something that they can go to their dealership to to get or how do they go about getting one? So for the moment, um they can get in contact directly with Avelu, with our headquarter, and we will link them to a dealer where they can connect it. And we're building more and more infrastructure in Ireland at this moment, and also in other countries, to get them the network where every customer can go and then get their car checked.
00:39:07
Speaker
Thanks for joining us. No pun intended there, Paddy, but I'm sure a bit of a learning curve for lots of people. Yeah, no, we at an interesting product, and I think it's one we'll probably see little bit more of in the future. So where do you get them? What sizes? it's Like a Game Boy size?
00:39:22
Speaker
Well, you don't buy the unit. the The unit itself is a test that's done by a dealer right at the moment. so You're not going to use it all the time unless you're in the industry. so No, you shouldn't need to. NVD are the local resellers of this.
00:39:36
Speaker
and there's two NPD who distribute the bulk of the cars in Ireland. they But at the moment they're saying if you're a private customer, gay contact Avalu themselves.
00:39:48
Speaker
and their website, avalu.com, and then they will direct you to a dealer close to you. Tess is about 70 euro. Okay, it's well worth it. Well worth it.
00:39:59
Speaker
if If you're thinking about buying a used EV, definitely. um And good gu maybe, i don't know if bargaining power is the right word, because if obviously if there's alarm bells, just going to walk away.
00:40:10
Speaker
There'll be another ID.4. you know Yeah, those things are there will be. and and And I suppose it's also you know for yourself, if you are if you've held your have your own EV for a while or you plan on selling it privately as well, that could be an interesting route to go down to give you that extra leverage.
00:40:27
Speaker
Right, well, still to come on this week's episode of Drivers Public Podcast, you can, of course, get in touch at driversofpublicpodcast at gmail.com. ah A motoring icon sadly passed away this week. And is it ever acceptable for your garage or mechanic to bring your car at home for the night to road test it?
00:40:48
Speaker
Go. Welcome back to the Drivers the Public podcast brought to you in association with Dundeele Cars with Ireland's widest selection of cars for sale from certified trusted dealers. The right car for you is on dundeele.ie.
00:40:59
Speaker
Mark, as a former MX5 owner, you lost a legend this week. Although once again, a car that I probably didn't have it long enough to actually calm myself. Tom Matano, the designer of the Mazda Miata or MX5. He passed away during the week at 76. God bless him.
00:41:17
Speaker
Yeah, young enough. And yeah, look, what a, what a, what a great car and, and what a, what, you know, what a piece of motoring history to have created that car. The. It started with watching people on horses and he just wanted the whole being at one with beast and machine and whatever.
00:41:35
Speaker
Yeah, I remember like i remember vividly. My dad was a motoring journalist and I remember when he got that car first, 1990. um ninety ninety and So would have been an NA.
00:41:48
Speaker
Yeah, and he was writing for Sunday Independence so he got those cars pretty early and was one of the first around. And it was just, the reaction to this thing was outstanding. And there were some other cars the time you know MGTF and a few other bits and bobs this thing was absolutely um blew them out of the water because it was so good and know and and still to this day if you jump into any Mazda MX-5 it is it's not about power it you know they're not particularly fast um it's just the most fun you will have it's incredible but you've look you've you' you've owned one you know tell us your story
00:42:29
Speaker
That was great. It was it was ah an NB, which was the second model. So that came out, i think, oh, 1998, I think maybe it was the start of the NBs. I'm going to say 1998, yeah.
00:42:42
Speaker
So it was the one that didn't have pop-up headlights, which would not pass Euro NCAP safety tests today. They're far too sharp and can dig into pedestrians' legs. Yeah, they did look good.
00:42:54
Speaker
And I had driven a few of them before as as press cars. And there is, there's absolutely, there's just something about one. Even the last ones I i would have driven with the Mazda Ireland were the ND model, kind of the current model.
00:43:08
Speaker
um There was a the the anniversary version. There was there was an orange one Bose sound system. little to deflector behind your head just ah brilliant brilliant car lightweight litres 1.6s there's five i think now because of emissions.
00:43:30
Speaker
ah ah Gearbox, unbelievable. Like, if you've never driven one, such a tight, tight gearbox. The the car I had only had 26,000 miles on it It had been babied. Loads of service history. Hadn't got rust, because a lot of them can be rust buckets, you know.
00:43:45
Speaker
These are old cars in some cases. um Just a very raw... I don't want to say primitive, but, you know, pretty primitive a little sports car. Just great. And, you know, they've ah they've often suffered from the hands of, oh, hairdressers, Porsche, ah not needing a hairdresser and having owned a Porsche and an MX-5.
00:44:06
Speaker
A very worthy little car. And if you're snooty about them, more fuel you. Yeah. Often I would expect a comment thrown around by someone who's never sat in one or driven one.
00:44:17
Speaker
Yeah. If you have spent any time in one, they're just such fun. and it's It makes every single journey feel special. You don't need a radio. You're never going to be attempted to glance at your mobile phone when you're driving an MX-5 because it it's it's it feels like being on a motorbike. You're so involved.
00:44:35
Speaker
There's so much going on. And, you yeah you know, if you look at the speedometer, you're not actually going that fast. No, no, no. They still rev pretty well. um There's actually, there's nowhere really to put your mobile phone also, depending on what version you have.
00:44:46
Speaker
Mine had a pop-up aerial, so when you turn the ignition, the aerial came up with the back of it. Oh, I love it. Mine had a hard top as well, which is kind of essential for for Ireland, really, because it means you can enjoy them ah all year round.
00:44:57
Speaker
But they have to make a Tom edition. They have to. Of course they will. Of course they will. And I think it seems to be a car that Mazda are resisting electrifying. You know, they they're going to plow on to the bitter end until they absolutely can't have any choice of of leaving it ah as a petrol. You see, weight will ruin that car.
00:45:19
Speaker
Yeah. And unless they come up with some mad battery, the way we all have SSD hard drives now that the size of your ATM card, it's, I don't know how they'll do it. And it's a car that they, you know, despite different generations, they haven't really...
00:45:33
Speaker
you know dialed up the power at any stage no they don't need to 140 brake maybe I mean and people have modded theirs and you know very interesting things you can do to them but no just a cracking little car one of my kids was like distraught when it was being bought and it was leaving the driveway so very lovable little things if you ever get a chance and you know what like used ones I was only looking last night you know get a good one for nine grand Yeah, I would quite happily get one, drive one every day, to be honest, because it's just, you know, it's when you get into your car, if you're not, you know, if you're especially if you're working a lot, you don't get into your car that much to be getting into something that gives you that smile on your face.
00:46:18
Speaker
And every journey is an event. That's, you know, there's so much to be said about that. um do Do you miss yours a bit? I do miss, like, you know, as I've just mentioned on this podcast, you know, some of the repair bills for the 911 are different gravy.
00:46:32
Speaker
and I i get those the master didn't have to do it. put some tires on the Mazda. That was it. um Flew to the NCT. The Porsche didn't fly through the NCT the first time it was NCT'd, which I thought was hilarious, like the difference in value. um Yeah, no issues.
00:46:48
Speaker
Started every time. um non-interference engine, so... Really very little can go wrong in them if you just service them and keep an eye on them. um Yeah, just a great little thing. And if you do buy one, you're at this stage, unless you're buying one of the newer ones, obviously, and which will have some depreciation, you'll you'll probably get your money back or close to your money back afterwards. Cheap tax, you know. Yeah, just a ah very affordable. I think what was my, oh God, I think my insurance would have been like 300 euro or something. It was...
00:47:19
Speaker
And there's plenty now that are 30 years old as well. So, you know, you yeah classic tax you'll find classic tax and insurance. It's the way to go. m we got ah We got a comment from ah a listener called Leah, who has a beautiful Alfa Romeo in that lovely alpha blue color.
00:47:36
Speaker
And she had dealt with um a workshop who were working on the car and basically said, the car had been taken home overnight to test it.
00:47:47
Speaker
right And this kind of question quite often sparks debate in a slightly but related version. The drop and go parking at Dublin Airport, a colleague of ours parked a Skoda Octavia RS in there.
00:48:03
Speaker
Start of the summer. Yeah. And in the terms and conditions of drop and go, they can move your car to a long term car park if they don't have enough space in the short term. But when you when you come back from your holidays, it will be back in the short term car park.
00:48:16
Speaker
But it clearly says your car needs a tax disc and a valid NCT because they'll be used on public roads. But again, there's quite a lot of mileage put onto this Octavia RS and they responded on TikTok to the person who had an issue they're like, oh, the car was well driven. It's like, now look, Scota Ireland didn't care because they just saw the funny side of it.
00:48:37
Speaker
But people do get a little bit precious and and I'm just wondering, rightly or wrongly, my own situation, our Nissan Aria had a little bit of a cosmetic rear ending from old deer, uh,
00:48:49
Speaker
think the end of last year and it was literally just minor stuff, but it did need a new bumper. It had to be resprayed. And in lots of modern cars, obviously there's location services in the car so you can see where it is and you can leave that on or you can turn it off if you've got something to hide.
00:49:04
Speaker
So we got a notification on the Nissan app to say that the not of the location thing had been turned off when it was in the workshop and I thought that was a bit strange. So... We asked the question, how come you, why why did you turn that off?
00:49:16
Speaker
And straight away, they were like, well, why did you need it on? was like, well, just because it's always been on. That's that's why. And then when we pressed a little bit more, pressed little bit more on it, they were like, oh, well, we had to bring it home, you know, to to test it overnight. And and I just thought, but it was a bumper being resprayed. So one, do places use it as a mobility solution?
00:49:42
Speaker
I've no doubt there are certain, like if you have a misfire or, you know, there's something majorly done with your car that they have to spend a bit of time and, you know, you're in a workshop all day. you So, you know, within a reasonable mileage distance, whoever's working in a car brings it home.
00:49:58
Speaker
But I don't know. don't know. Yeah, I think, look, I think the bumper example is cheeky um and I think it's probably not something that you should see happen. I mean, like I agree with you, if there's been an engine issue, if there's been some, you know, something that affects the way the car car drove that will require a road test, fine. But in this case, absolutely not.
00:50:25
Speaker
You know, and it does beg the question, do we need to start keeping a a closer eye on our cars when we hand them over to a third party because, you know, there are are issues other issues like what are they doing when when they're in your car? Are they using it for something else? God knows.
00:50:40
Speaker
Yeah, I've heard heard stories over the years where they have been used and where, you know, cars were seen by other people. If you have, you know, a standout car, someone might see it um Obviously, there's the added wear and tear. But look, but anyway, it's just why can it not be tested during working hours?
00:51:00
Speaker
um what what what is the reason for for bringing the car home overnight and i guess weird i guess this has got probably been going on for years and now we just have the technology to see when and when and exactly how it happens mean it's very easy to slip look maybe you'd be ultra paranoid to be doing this but you could just slip an air tag in your car um an air tag not notify someone that it's in the car Yeah, I have heard this one as well where, yeah, like if you have it from a theft point of view, it it will pop up on someone else's iPhone, for example. You know, I don't get notifications about AirTags all day long when I'm going around my everyday life, but I'm sure they're out there. and Yeah, I think it's when it's connected it's connected to york your phone or whatever. I don't know. I've never put one in a car for someone. but Yeah.
00:51:47
Speaker
Now, equally, you know, if your car is getting worked on and you have a dash cam on, right, and that's, you know, last weekend I was home with parents and I could see the dash cam was on and the LROC and I was like, why is that on?
00:51:58
Speaker
Well, because it's easier than disconnecting it and I was like, but that's going to use the battery. Ah, it doesn't use very much. I was like, okay, i wrote whatever. But, you know. Leave them out of jail. If you're a bunch of lads in a workshop or girls, whatever, you don't want, you know, a customer's car recording your, you know, you're working on a car, you're having a chat.
00:52:14
Speaker
What are you doing this weekend? How are you getting on your woman? Oh, your man's wrecking me head. You know, you don't but that shouldn't be recorded either. no and good So have seen people kind of lose their mind over people disconnecting dash cams. Now, I've also seen, i think in the NCT, it actually says, ah please disconnect any sort of because it's a privacy issue there, no doubt about it, you know.
00:52:34
Speaker
and for well Well, look, hopefully that they um lovely that won't happen to you again. But I think it would be an idea for people, if they are handing in their car to a car park, to a dealership, to zero the trip on their car. So just go into your trip computer, reset all of the trip one, two, sort whatever else there, all to zero, hand over the keys, and then you should have a fairly clear picture. Now,
00:53:02
Speaker
the dealership might reset the trip themselves. but You can record the mileage. You can type it down or whatever. Even if you record the mileage, you'll have a a decent idea because, yeah yeah, it's a bit naughty. Now, maybe that's people being really, really paranoid and just like, would you relax? But I think you're proud enjoy going home for a rally overnight, maybe. Especially if it's something nice. Not really necessary.
00:53:26
Speaker
No, not very cheeky. um Next week, Mark, I'm going to have the done deal. price report oh yes exclusively for well probably not exclusively but we'll have a we'll have a good discussion about that some interesting things in terms of pricing of used cars happening in the used car market so uh lots to tell you on that next week I heard a very interesting fact about Dundeele. You can maybe verify this or not. So we've all seen ads for new cars or, you know, used car in a garage and it says pictures coming soon or car in prep.
00:54:01
Speaker
And there's no actual pictures of of the car. is it ah much harder to sell a car without pictures? Yeah, those cars will. Makes sense, I suppose. Those cars won't sell as quickly. So, yeah, that's why we would always encourage people to have decent photographs. Even if they're selling car privately, lots of pictures and decent pictures. Don't just sort of half-ass and because it because really does make a difference. So,
00:54:23
Speaker
um and And those dealers that don't put them up or have car are coming soon, they don't do as well. Interesting feature though, we've we've added and something that you and I before both said was you said noise when people wouldn't put the price up or they put some made up price. There's now a filter.
00:54:44
Speaker
that you click that and it will show you cars with the will exclude all those cars that don't have a price or it even includes those make yuppie prices one two three four and the like so that so so people advertising can still do that but you can weed them out yeah you can weed them out with a fairly easy click so it's an now um so it's now uh one of those functionalities that we've been asking for before is now there so they would they did listen to us mark that's That's much handier. Good, good, good. It's good it's good to know.
00:55:13
Speaker
and Next week, I'll be reporting on, well, quite a few things, especially the Volkswagen Amarok Panamericana version. Right.
00:55:25
Speaker
CO2 friendly, I suspect. Oh, these things are very, well, they're quite practical for people if you have a business and you can ride off the VAT and you can claim back the diesel and Yeah, for some people.
00:55:37
Speaker
Other people, they they feel like they're an extension of ah another part of their male anatomy. Right. and People are very split about pickup trucks. If you need one, fine. But if you don't, people get very triggered by them.
00:55:49
Speaker
Any travelling next week? ah No travelling next week, no. No, a bit more radio work and a bit more minding children. So my next current trip is not till ah the middle of October ah to see the new and drive the new Nissan Leaf in Copenhagen.
00:56:05
Speaker
Very interesting, yeah. My colleague Dave O'Keefe will be there joining you on that one, so... Right. Actually, Dave met a nice gentleman up in ah where we all film lots of cars in Zippet in the Dublin Mountains there last night. And Dave actually messaged me.
00:56:20
Speaker
And I'd say he probably thought at one point there was a hidden camera because an elderly gentleman came up and asked Dave, did he know me? And he knew ever everything about the channel, the cars.
00:56:32
Speaker
have So I said, Dave, did you get his name? Give him a shout out. He goes, I didn't. I didn't. But his his wife said he watches all your stuff. I was like, OK, thanks. so It's nice to know someone's watching, right? At least one person. Yeah. So shout out to that man up in the Dublin mountains walking his dog who met Dave.
00:56:46
Speaker
um Yeah. And actually, the only other time I've ever had comments from women but on the channel was that collaboration I did with Dave and the key EB3. And he had this go to Elrock.
00:56:57
Speaker
And ah these women came out of nowhere commenting on my channel, who obviously are... He's a beautiful man, in fairness. They're subscribers. And not only that, but he's a wakeboarder. So, like, he has it all going on. He's also happily attached. Yeah, he's ripped. He's he's got model good looks.
00:57:13
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He's terribly nice. And they're they've they've also just taken in a disheveled alpha like mc me, so I don't know what's going wrong with the world. He'll learn. He'll learn from you. Don't worry. No no doubt about it.
00:57:23
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Right. Well, look, thanks for watching and listening and make sure you subscribe and maybe share the podcast if it's of use to anyone. Lots of interesting injury stuff discussed there this week on the channel as well. So we'll see you soon.
00:57:34
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Bye for now.