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Episode 179
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This week we talk Netflix documentaries with Oklahoma City Bombing: American Terror, The Biggest Heist Ever and Return of the King: The Fall And Rise of Elvis Presley, we talk 28 Days Later (2008) and 28 Weeks Later (2007), we continue our Year of Superman with the documentary Selling Superman (2024) and finally we breakdown the origins of the Snyderverse with Man of Steel (2013)
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Introduction and Netflix Documentaries
00:00:17
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Keeper.
00:01:25
Speaker
Hey, what's going on?
00:01:30
Speaker
Uhhhhhhhhh... Nothing much. You? Not much. Not much. Good to hear. Good to hear. We have a jam-packed show. Not a lot of new stuff we're talking about. couple of things, but mostly old stuff.
00:01:42
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um And a big, huge Superman topic, which we'll get into in a few. I want to talk about a couple of documentaries I watched on Netflix. Oh, Jesus Christ. Here we go. Netflix documentaries. They're always fucking good. Or usually fun. Oklahoma City bombing. American terror.
00:01:58
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um These are all under two hours long, but if there's stuff, like this is stuff we grew up with, but we were so young. Yes. We don't know much about it. Yes. It's good to know some of this stuff. Oklahoma City of Bombing happened in 95, 96. can't remember year. I think it was 95.
00:02:14
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um But talked about Timothy McVeigh all that. I thought that was very, very good. Netflix does a great job with their documentaries as far as speaking nostalgia. Speaking of Oklahoma City bombing, last night the Pacers beat them by like fucking 30, forcing their game seven Sunday, bitches. Let's go.
00:02:30
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i really i heard mr I didn't do a T-Stray Sports this week, but I heard that Jenny Buss sold the Lakers this week. Yes, yes. For like $10 billion. It's crazy. And I think it was $10 million he bought it is no child bus They bought it for like $10 million on credit. Like they didn't even pay that off for years.
00:02:50
Speaker
Like the way they bought it because you obviously you watch the show. So yeah, they went over that in the show. So yeah, huge investment. return on that crazy you think um and she's married to jay moore from mad tv the comedian yep yep crazy another she was she's been around for a while she's been around the block i've actually heard that before um another documentary this is about a crypto heist um these not the dog No, this is actual crypto, like currency.
00:03:22
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um And this came out, I believe, last year. It's all about Bitcoin. And this couple stole like $4 billion dollars worth of Bitcoin, something like that. They stole it when it was low. But since Bitcoin had that big, huge u surge looked like 10 years ago, yes it grew to $4 billion. dollars And they were all keeping it hidden, and they couldn't access any of it because if they did, the government were going to come after
Elvis Presley Documentary
00:03:44
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them. So they had it all hidden in...
00:03:46
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whole bunch of different accounts. It's great documentary. It's about an hour, oh probably an hour and 45. I got a quick Bitcoin story. Did you see this? This one around the internet about ah probably within the last year. um In 2009 or 10, there was a video game tournament.
00:04:00
Speaker
First place got like 500. Second place got like 300. Third place got like 200, whatever. And fourth, fifth and sixth place got like 10 Bitcoin. Oh, wow. so So if they didn't if they just kept their Bitcoin, then they would be like millionaires now.
00:04:15
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like Yeah, that's hard. Bitcoin is such is such a hard thing. that If you were in the beginning and you kept that. Oh, my God. Yeah. hear You hear stories of people losing their passwords for the Bitcoin from a decade, two decades ago and when it first started.
00:04:31
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And they're trying to get it now and they can't find it because you have specific password. That's what this documentary is about. ah yeahbi go The FBI go in there and try to catch them, but they in order to get and we're going to get evidence...
00:04:42
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They have to get the passwords for the Bitcoin. And this couple are dumb social media influencer. um she They hid the passwords in a computer in like a hidden folder and the FBI found it. um it's great It's a great story. It's on Netflix as
Exploring the '28 Days Later' Franchise
00:04:59
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well. The other documentary... um This is a great documentary. I love Elvis.
00:05:04
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Love his music. Love the story of Elvis. This doesn't get into his death. This gets into pretty much... Him becoming a huge star in the 50s and going into the army and having to get back into his celebrity.
00:05:17
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um And then all culminating in this big, huge TV network special, ah Elvis Returns special. This documentary is called return of out The Return of the king The Fall and Rise of Elvis Presley.
00:05:30
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Doesn't go any further than 1968, so it doesn't talk about him bloated being bloated up and on drugs and dying on the toilet. It doesn't get into any of that. But it does talk about up until this big, huge comeback special was resolved. It's fucking crazy to me that we are both currently older to the older than Elvis was he died, right?
00:05:47
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Did he die at 40 or 41? I don't remember his age, but yeah, he's very, very young. I think he was 41. So we're like at or older than he was, which is fucking insane to me. Yep, yeah, very crazy. But these are on Netflix.
00:06:00
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I wanted to watch these. We're going get into some heavy Superman talk in the next few weeks, so I wanted to get some of this shit out of the way. um Plus, I really didn't have anything new to watch this week, so I watched those. Yeah, on show we have no TV shows. For now, but we're going to have some some coming up. um We're going to have Ironheart.
00:06:17
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Two movies. Yeah, next week. Two movies.
00:06:23
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28 days later. Oh, you found a song good. 28 weeks later. Yes. um Of course, the new one came out 28 years later. came out today. um We'll watch it whenever. But I wanted to get these out of the way.
00:06:36
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28 Days Later came out in 2002, so right when we graduated high school. um Danny Boyle, who before this did Trainspotting, since then he's done a whole bunch of stuff. um He did Slumdog Millionaire. he's he's He's just an acclaimed director, creator.
00:06:51
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um This is a very... In fact, I watched in HD, but the camera is just so... He he filmed it on hand cam, the whole entire movie. Filming it through London.
00:07:02
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It's very chaotic. Chaotic, exactly. Good word for it. um Starring in one of his first, if not his first movie, Cillian Murphy. um Brendan Gleeson, one of his first movies. This was before Harry Potter.
00:07:16
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It was Cillian's first distributed movie. Like, nationally distributed movie, I believe. Yeah. um yeah uh bernie gleason uh bad night moody in the harry potter movies is before that christopher eccleston he was a ninth doctor in doctor who this is before that um and naomi harris who was in all the bond movies with uh daniel craig um great great movie but 28 weeks 28 weeks later i think was a little bit better for me just because it upped the yeah heights to it um It was set 28 days later. so it's It's like alienating an Alien and Aliens.
00:07:50
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Yeah. made five made here Made five years later, 2007. um But dan Danny Boyle didn't come back to to... Oh, by the way, all of this written by Alex Garland. Hmm.
00:08:03
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Who is popular for Ex Machina, we Civil War, yeah Wolf Warfare, modern day great. um yeahp And this this is his first writing, getting into writing. He wrote 28 weeks later. He's also like, to me, he's like the anti-Zach Snyder where he makes a cohesive story.
00:08:18
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um don't think he's ever written a movie that's been like longer than two hours. Like he does all of his movies very cohesively, like hour and a half to two hours, which is awesome. Yeah, these flow. These movies, all these movies flowed.
00:08:30
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um jerry jeremy renner one of his first if not his first starring role he got hurt locker the year after this and the course hawkeye after this ahrisel but idris elba one of his first movies he got the office right around this time that's the first time i saw him in the office he was in one season um robert carlisle you know the face he's kind of the star of this in the beginning and then he turns into a zombie spoiler he was He was in a show called Once Upon a Time. it was on ABC. he took like the Disney um ah fairy tales and they turned it into this this like four, five, six, seven. I can't remember how many seasons it was.
00:09:09
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But was pretty good. um He was in that. He played Rumpelstiltskin. um And Rose Byrne, who was in X-Men First Class. That was the first time I think I saw her. Maybe in Bridesmaids 2 around the same time. But she was in this as well.
00:09:20
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Yeah.
00:09:23
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um where london has been weeks um so twenty weeks sorry and london has been shut down and and they exterminated all the supposedly exterminated all of the virus the zombies and they started opening it up to people to come back in into this quarantined area Not in the city limits of London, because they're still cleaning that up.
00:09:44
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But they brought it in, and of course the virus gets in there. the only thing that i don't like The only thing I don't understand understand about this movie is there's one women woman who is a survivor from being bitten, I guess. And she has some sort of a I'm not sure if they're going to explain it in the new movie or not.
00:10:00
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But she has some sort of an immunity where she has the infection. She can
Massive Comic Collection and Superman
00:10:05
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infect people. She does in the movie. That's how the infection goes into the city of London. But she has no symptoms of being a zombie. She's not, like, craving human flesh. She's not out of her mind.
00:10:18
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um Wasn't really fully explained in this movie. I'm wondering if that's what the new movie is all about. Maybe. Because her daughter survives. but I'm getting into spoilers, but her daughter survives at the end of the movie.
00:10:28
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Everybody else dies, pretty much. But... um Yeah, and that just leaves a whole world open that they're finally getting into, what, 18 years later? They're opening this Pandora's box again. I still wish it was called 28 Months Later, and then they went to 28 years, but I think there was so much of a time gap between weeks and the new one that they just decided to go with this.
00:10:52
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you know the story between Do you know the story between the new movie? you know What's going on with it? What happened with it? All I know about the new movie is one of the main characters is slinging dong and doesn't wear pants the entire time. I don't know that, but you do it's owned by Fox.
00:11:07
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You know what happens with Fox and Disney? Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. The studio didn't want anything to do. In fact, they took 28 Days Later off the streaming sites when fox went the Fox merger happened.
00:11:19
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the original I can't remember. One of the original producers of twenty the 28 Days and 28 Weeks Later bought the franchise from Disney. Which don't hear about too often. And then they sold it to Sony, sold the rights to Sony. So the new movie's coming out with Sony Pictures, Paramount. Okay.
00:11:36
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um But yeah, this that's kind of the history of what happened and why this movie took so long. Maybe because there maybe that's why they couldn't go with months. Maybe that was already yeah and cost in the bank, so to speak, with the other company.
00:11:48
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So that would make sense, just to guess. But yeah. There are comic book crossovers with this, spinoffs. I don't know much about those either. But, yeah, good movies. And I cannot wait to see the new one and see where it goes.
00:12:02
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I heard the ending is fantastic. so Yeah, it's here, too. Big, huge, sets up and opens up the world kind of like this one
Superman Films and Snyderverse
00:12:09
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did, too. so i was I was going to go see it last night, but I had to get back to the fray.
00:12:15
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Okay, Superman. um Speaking of Superman, great documentary, Selling Superman. holy we had to talk We had to talk about this documentary because this is a crazy story.
00:12:27
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um This father, who is who was collecting comic books since the 60s, 50s, when he was a kid, um he had this huge, huge comic book collection. he got I believe at the end of it, they said he got most of the collection during the 70s. He started in 60s. He had deals with a local comic shot he was shop. He was a lawyer, and he was doing work like under table,
00:12:51
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And would get comics given to him, stacks of comics. So they found this collection. and they they ah They knew the father had this obsession. here they They realized he had Asperger's or he was autistic later on, back when there wasn't a word for it. Yeah. Yeah.
00:13:07
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Um, but now they realize that he has this obsession because he was, he was Asperger's autistic, whatever you want to say. um and he collected the whole entire house, not just a room, not just a closet.
00:13:20
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The house was filled with comic boxes, long boxes. The closet was stacked with boxes. He had a one room. Living the dream. I saw this, Kevin, and i looked at your future because you started collecting single issues.
00:13:32
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I told you, Slippery Slope, as pictured in this documentary. Four parts in this documentary came out last year, self-made. um It's on iTunes if you want to watch it. but um The collection had almost every single iconic issue, especially from the 60s going up until the 80s, It was worth tens of millions of dollars.
00:13:57
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The two prized possessions of it are Batman No. 1 and Superman No. 1. Superman No. 1 the most pristine the second most pristine copy. It was like an 8.0. His was 7. The most pristine was an 8. Yeah, that's what it was. I couldn't remember. yeah yeah but yeah the yeah he he ended up The collection was so vast, so much. He had he had so many of different kinds different versions of it, too.
00:14:22
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um From Superman to Spider-Man No. 1. He had a whole bunch of stuff. um And he they he because he had so much stuff, he made a deal with the CGC, which is who graded the comic books, to make their own custom label, which I thought it was cool. Never done before, or hasn't been done since.
00:14:38
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um in There's a very cool dramatic i about cool but dramatic scene in Episode 3, I think, and Episode 2 or 3, where the Superman 1 gets dropped in his plastic case.
00:14:51
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Uh-huh. And they are panicking because if there's any scratch to that comic book, if it goes from a 7 to a 6, you're talking millions of dollars in lots. And it was just the tension of bringing it back to the CGC to get graded, take the broken plastic off, put new plastic on.
00:15:07
Speaker
The tension there was just so thrilling. um And it's a thin line between collecting and hoarding. I mean, this was definitely a hoarding situation. And then when he, when this son, who is a star of this documentary takes over his father's collection and starts looking into it more, he's getting into the Barger game. He's selling and buying to, to still keep the collection, still build the collection. He has them locked up. Like they're in the fucking Pentagon too. Yes. It's in a storage unit. It's like, you have have like a key and a passcode for each door.
00:15:40
Speaker
It's like fucking turning the thing to launch the rocket at the right time, you know? Yeah. He the whole entire Superman run from number one, which is the most expensive, to 468, which came out in 1990. Whole entire run. whole entire run Um, but yeah, crazy documentary, four parts. If you love anything about documentaries, you love, if you want to see something crazy about this story, it's called selling Superman. It's on iTunes.
00:16:03
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It's like 13 bucks. It's definitely recommend like worth. Yeah. Worth watching. It's worth it. Yeah. Um, and just crazy to see what this father and what this collection and it ripped his family apart. He got divorced from it.
00:16:15
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Um, estranged, estranged from his, his, his sons, uh, especially his older son. He was a little bit more, ah successful, you could say, in business.
00:16:26
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And he came in took over the collection. The other one was little silly. seemed like had a lot of money himself, considering he had everything locked up in a goddamn warehouse that nobody could break into. Yeah. With cameras, and he had he had those big trailers in there, like four of them stacked together. yeah It was like the Batcave from like The Dark Knight. Yeah. Outside of not being underground.
00:16:47
Speaker
was cool to see him. He was making business deals to try to sell them in the Comic-Con market yeah with different comic comic sellers, which was really cool see. And people were hating on him too for all this. yeah They showed that part.
00:16:58
Speaker
And then like by the end of it, people were like, good luck, man, keep doing what you're doing, blah, blah, blah. The comic community did not... care for this guy for some reason to the point to the point where at the end of the documentary he wishes that he didn't make the documentary he's right he's had a bad taste about it telling the whole story but a great documentary recommend that highly very good so we are weeks away superman we have our tickets we have our tickets we're ready to watch it but we are now in a new time period in superman We've talked about the 30s, 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s.
00:17:37
Speaker
Got into the 2000s last week with Superman Returns. Superman Returns 2 did not happen.
00:17:45
Speaker
Let's talk about the story of why it did not happen. Before we get into the Man of Steel and the Snyderverse.
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In 2008, a reboot was planned. Warner Brothers brought in a a whole bunch of comic book writers with reboot ideas. Grant Morrison, Jeff Johns, Mark Waid, Brad Meltzer. A lot of those came in, tried to come up with ideas of what they could do to restructure whatever happened in Superman Returns because Warner Brothers thought he did not make enough money.
00:18:18
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um They wanted to keep what the original sequel title was going to be from Bryan Singer was Superman Man of Steel. They wanted to keep the Man of Steel part. That's the only decision they had. Morrison's idea was similar to his work on All-Star Superman. Wade's idea was similar to Birthright, which are two comic books. We've read All-Star.
00:18:36
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um Birthright, you've read. Oh, yeah. I love Birthright. So good. That was kind of the original idea. Mark Miller, who's done a whole bunch of... Kick-Ass. He's done a whole bunch of stuff.
00:18:47
Speaker
um He teamed up with Matthew Vaughn to plan this epic eight-hour Superman movie in 2008. a trilogy, um and it was going to released a year apart, similar to The Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter, and it was going to chronicle the entire life of Superman from Krypton. It was going actually show him growing up on Krypton and having to leave Krypton as a young adult and then going to Earth would have been a sequel.
00:19:11
Speaker
And then the fifth and last part of the trilogy was going to be Superman dying, losing his powers as the sun goes into Supernova. Would have been crazy story. That was pitched. Brainiac, Zod, Lex Luthor were all part of as main villains.
00:19:25
Speaker
They considered Charlie Cox to be the Golden Age style Superman in that series. that That was before he was anything anywhere. Interesting. And it had a similar tone to what the Donner films were. um And Vaughn later considered the Man of Steel sequel um and in 2017, which we'll get into and and probably later on, but...
00:19:48
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um In 2008, George Miller from Mad Max was going to do the Justice League Mortal movie. You remember that? was all cast, all ready to shoot. I think there were 10 weeks of shooting.
00:20:01
Speaker
And it was shelved during the writer's strike of 2008. This is just a glimpse of all the the actors who were in it. Armie Hammer being the one person known that was a um was cast as Batman.
00:20:15
Speaker
um And what's his name was playing the Flash from, he was in onre he was in The ah League. I can't remember his name. Wasn't it the guy from Shazam? The OC. Yes, he's in Shazam 2. I can't remember his name. I who you're about. can picture it. Brody. Adam Brody. Adam Brody. Adam Brody, not Adrian. Not Adrian, yes. He was a Flash. Yeah, I can't remember. There was other younger actors. But they were going to bring the whole entire Justice League to do a movie.
00:20:41
Speaker
But that also got canned and shelved because of the writer's strike. And then 2009, the Seagull estate sues Warner Brothers. um They want to get 50% of the rights back to Superman's origins and the Seagull estate, the copyright of Action Comics number one.
00:20:56
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um So Warner Brothers made a deal with them. and But however, if they did not make a production with a new Superman film by 2011, the Seagull estate would have been able to sue for lost revenue for an unproduced film.
00:21:12
Speaker
So Man of Steel was fast-tracked quickly. Who was the most popular director at the time at Warner Brothers? Christopher Nolan because of the Dark Knight trilogy.
00:21:25
Speaker
He comes in um because of the stipulation. The film reboot was fast-tracked with his idea, with David S. Goyer coming in, with his idea for the movie of bringing in a new take on Man of Steel, a new darker tone, similar to what the Dark Knight was.
00:21:42
Speaker
You know how why Goyer started writing this movie, right? um i read I read it, but I can't remember exactly. He was on Happy, Sad, Confused, and he was talking about, um he and Chris Nolan were writing The Dark Knight Rises, and they just hit a wall, and Nolan was like, just take a week off. So they just both took a week off, and he started writing a Superman film because he was like, i need something to get my creativity going. yeah And then at the end of the week, they got back together, and he basically was like, this is my idea for Superman film, and that's where Nolan kind of took it to the Warner Brothers at that point. Yep.
00:22:15
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yeah He took it right to Warner Brothers because Warner Brothers needed something quickly and that's what they got. um These are the character posters. Superman, Zod, who they brought back, and Jor-El, played by Russell Crowe. We'll get into all the casting.
00:22:30
Speaker
Zod still might be, his portrayal by Michael Shannon still might be my favorite villain in comic book movie outside of maybe Heath Ledger's
In-depth Analysis of 'Man of Steel'
00:22:39
Speaker
Joker. and It's tough for me to put Thanos in there because it's all CGI.
00:22:43
Speaker
But he's he's up there. He's fantastic. which more posters More promotional posters came out, if you remember when this movie came out. um And they brought in Henry Cavill to play Superman Clark Kent.
00:22:55
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Nolan's Choice, not Zach's.
00:22:59
Speaker
The Count of Monte Cristo. The Count of Monte Cristo. Young young Henry Cavill. Was that two thousand and two two thousand and three Yep. um He auditioned its for Superman Flyby, which is the original J.J. Abrams movie in 2002.
00:23:13
Speaker
um I think he it was a couple years later when that movie was going to be... Way too young. Yeah, way too young at the time. and think it was 20 or 21. It was around the same time he auditioned for Bond, and then he auditioned for Returns, I believe, also. Yeah, he he did. He auditioned for Returns. Ralph won out on that.
00:23:28
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um Interesting casting news. I don't know if you knew this. um All considered for the role, Tyler Hawkshan from Superman and Lois, yep Matthew Goode from The Watchman, The Offer, we just watched him a couple years ago, um Jamie Dornan, Joe Mangalelo from Snyder's second choice, yes um Colin McDonough, who played Captain Hook in Once Upon a Time, the show I just talked about a little while ago,
00:23:54
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All considered for the role of Superman by Henry Cavill 1-0. It would have gotten a Mangiello, but he had true blood at the time, so he couldn't get out of that deal, which is why they went with Cavill. So this is what we got.
00:24:06
Speaker
That's Henry Cavill trying on the Christopher Reeves Superman outfit, and that's a test test outfit from the Superman costume that we're going to get for Snyder. um This is the very first picture I remember where is it wrong slide for Superman debuting at Comic-Con, maybe? I can't remember where this debuted.
00:24:24
Speaker
um Superman at the safe. Very first time you see this brand new vision of what Zack Snyder has for a Superman. Dark tone, of course. um We kind of figured that going in with The Dark Knight being the huge, huge success that it was that movies were kind of going into that direction. But yeah, debuted at Comic-Con in 2011, two years before the movie came out.
00:24:46
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um Rounding out the cast... We have Russell Crowe, like I mentioned, as Jor-El. um Original ideas were Sean Penn and Clive Owen. Interesting.
00:24:56
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Islet Zahir as Laura. She was Vanessa in Daredevil. um Kevin Costner coming in as Jonathan Kent. um Signed on before reading any of the script and ultimately hates how the role turned out now. Talks shit about it now to this day.
00:25:11
Speaker
um Diane Lane as Martha Kent. Lawrence Fishburne as Perry White. Amy Adams as Lois Lane. Original ideas were Kristen Stewart, Zoe Saldana, Olivia Wilde, and Mila Kunis. They all tested for the role.
00:25:27
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um Christopher Maloney played a colonel named Colonel Hardy. I love Maloney in this movie. Great in this movie. We'll get that Auntie Trouille, I don't know her name, but she played Ferrara. She played one of the Kryptonian.
00:25:41
Speaker
yeah um Alice Eve. Diane Kruger, Rosamund Pike, all considered. Gail Gadot passed because she was pregnant. Michael Shannon as General Zod. Viggo Mortensen, Daniel Day-Lewis, originally considered for that role. Could you imagine a Daniel Day-Lewis Zod? Yeah, that would have been crazy. That would have been awesome, honestly. i wouldve i would have been down for it. But Michael Shannon, like you mentioned, blew this part out of the water.
00:26:09
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is so good. And directed by Zack Snyder, produced by Christopher Nolan. A little behind-the-scenes glimpse of them chalking it up behind the scenes. Zack looks young there.
00:26:22
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, this was, what, 10 years? Almost 15 years ago. Yeah.
00:26:27
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Things of note, Christopher Nolan's involvement, producer credit. We already talked about that. Dark Knight kind of opened the door. um Story written by David S. Moore. my lawyer um yeahdada He wrote the Blade trilogy, Dark Knight trilogy, Batman v. Superman the year a couple of years later, Terminator Dark Fate. He's a showrunner and writer of Sandman, the Sandman show on Netflix currently.
00:26:53
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um Co-written and directed by Zack Snyder. Guillermo del Toro turned it down. Robert Zemeckis was approached. Ben Affleck was also approached.
00:27:04
Speaker
Darren Aronofsky, Duncan Jones, Jonathan like Liebsman, i don't know who that is, Matt Reeves. and Tony Scott were all considered, all passed, and went to Zack Snyder. So looks like out of all the people they they were looking for, there's only one or two names in the group. Like, Zack Snyder was a name, but, like, his biggest movie at that time was probably Watchmen?
00:27:24
Speaker
Even Affleck. Maybe 300? This is before Arco. This is before Affleck was known as a director. Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, interesting choices. Like, it looked like they were going for somebody relatively unknown for the directing outside of Scott.
00:27:39
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The viral marketing in this, just like the Dark Knight, had some great viral marketing. It was fantastic. um The websites, the website i think I can't remember what it was, Man of Steel. There's a weird website for this whole entire thing where a transmission, a voice message started showing up on this website. And you find out it was actually Zod's voice, a deep space message being transmitted to Earth saying, you are not alone.
00:28:02
Speaker
um Earth must return Kal-El to his custody, and he must surrender within 24 hours, or the world will suffer the consequences. Cool, dark turn. Of course, we're not used to seeing something like this in Superman and in the last decade or two.
00:28:17
Speaker
But, yeah. More ever again, outside of these movies? yeah Yeah, a little dark. But it also shows Michael Shannon for the first time in Saw It. is oh This going to be menacing. This is going great.
00:28:28
Speaker
The movie opens up with the probably the best depiction of Krypton on screen so far. Very sci-fi. Very much solar flares. Camera flares, but yeah, the ships, the the the the space of it all, the galactic spactic opening, the aliens, everything.
00:28:49
Speaker
um But yeah, there's Jor-El, and they have this thing called the Codex, which holds all the life in Kryptonian history. Um, what's it been, 10,000 years, they haven't had a live birth. Um, and in this story, Jor-El and Lara have the very first live birth in 10,000 years, and it happens to be Kal-El.
00:29:11
Speaker
Um, and yeah, at one point, I wanted to put the picture there, um, he does wear the black suit, um, Russell Crowe, uh, as Jor-El. Um... Then you see them, they have they do give a natural birth to Kal-El, and they know that the planet of Krypton, because they've taken so much of the um minerals and stuff out of the planet, they know that the planet is weakened and it's being destroyed from the inside out.
00:29:38
Speaker
um And Jor-El is trying to warn them. It's a big, huge trope of every single Superman story. Nobody's listening to Jor-El's warnings that the planet Krypton's going to explode.
00:29:49
Speaker
So he ends up having just enough time to make one small capsule for their son so he can survive and send the Codex codex off onto a course by close by far away planet with it similar atmosphere out atmosphere and everything. yeah um And that's exactly what happens.
00:30:10
Speaker
Jor-El gets killed by Zod. Weird touch because it never happens. R.I.P. um Zod gets arrested Can't wait to talk about this. But first, ah they send off Kal-El. Goes into space. That's the body it's sent in.
00:30:26
Speaker
That's the head of the dick ship. Yes. Speaking of dicks, Zog gets sent to the Phantom Zone. But why are they sent in big, huge, giant dongs up into the Phantom Zone in these weird-looking spaceships? Why does Zog make fucking vagina portals and rebel moves?
00:30:43
Speaker
Right. What does Zach want his nine-year-old son to be standing in front of his son's mother while she's naked in a movie? he's got He's got some weird twisted sexual things, but, you know, visuality is incredible.
00:30:56
Speaker
Look at that Michael Shannon Zod picture right there. That's like the epitome of what we love in this movie. about this Yes, yes. um But that's the Phantom Zone. It looks like the triangle there on the on the far right is the Phantom Zone, similar to what we saw back in the day with the Donner movies, but a little bit different.
00:31:12
Speaker
um But they're all sent to the Phantom Zone, and as Krypton explodes, which I think he did a great job showing the Krypton explosion in this movie, um the Phantom Zone gets destroyed.
00:31:23
Speaker
The Kal-El ship has already been sent off to Earth. The Phantom Zone that Zod and all of his henchmen are on gets destroyed, and they take over a ship. And they end up following to Earth somehow. They end up going there. um And then 20 years later, however long many years later, we meet Henry Cavill as a crab fisherman. There he is.
00:31:46
Speaker
just He's like Charlie Day in Always Sunny. We're crab people now, dude. But yeah, that's Henry Cavill. His debut is Superman. um And this is him and when he was younger. They show a little little glimpse of him as a young kid and as a teenager getting his powers reminiscent of Smallville.
00:32:05
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um And then, of course, you see Jonathan Kent talking to the teenage Clark. the infamous scene that I want to talk about right now. Okay, we'll stop here and talk, yeah. So, of course, a lot of people take aim with the fact that when Clark says, was I supposed to just let them die? And Jonathan takes a beat and he says, maybe.
00:32:24
Speaker
And then he goes on this sa ramble. This entire scene would have been fixed. If instead of saying maybe what he should have said is, no, you did the right thing. It just might not be the right time to do it.
00:32:35
Speaker
Something along those lines and then keep the dialogue, the rest throughout what he says to him. But when he says maybe that's not Jonathan, like to me um now that I have actually like experienced, cause a lot people might not know Ray knows this is the movie that made me want to read Superman.
00:32:53
Speaker
yeah And now that I've read so much Superman, I understand everyone's issues with a lot of the stuff that happens in this movie. If he had just reassured him that he was doing the right thing But it might not have been the right time to do it I think that scene would have gone over a lot better Or at least a little better But the fact that he was basically just like Maybe Like, no You're Jonathan Kent, you're not, no they're No, you're raising him so that he's not Because there are Superman stories where literally Jor-El sends him to Earth to take over Earth.
00:33:22
Speaker
Jor-El's a dickhead in Smallville because he wants Clark to basically take over Earth. And Clark was raised so well by the Kents that he won't do it. um So we'll see. Which I think, honestly, I think that might be Jor-El in the new movie because of the scenes we've seen of him talking to his father.
00:33:39
Speaker
Of, I'm not who I thought I was supposed to be, blah, blah, blah. um But yeah, i continue with your notes. Henry Cavill hitchhiking. Are you sure that's not in a Rambo movie? No, it looks like Rambo, though. ah Perry White in the Daily Planet. Great Perry White. Love as White. I think he did a great job.
00:33:57
Speaker
And Superman taking flight. My favorite scene from this movie by far. favorite scene and my favorite part of the soundtrack is First Flight. Absolutely love it. You see the gravity going around his his hand as his fist is in the snow, and you see the gravity of all the rocks and the stones and the snow flying around in a circle.
00:34:14
Speaker
And then it just takes flight. It goes crazy into the atmosphere. The picture there on the bottom right is him flying around in space, which is very, very cool. I like Zack using the shaky cam during the flight sequence in this because it makes it feel real, which I love. Yeah.
00:34:29
Speaker
which i love yeah um And my one of my first controversies from this movie. Yep, let's get into it. Lois finding out within minutes, but however, I'm going to get into it in a minute, but figures out in in a minute that he's Superman. Number one, she's a reporter.
00:34:47
Speaker
Literally a 40-second scene of her going to Smallville somehow, finding Pete Ross, hashtag not my Pete Ross, talking to him at the IHOP, because apparently that's all Pete Ross can amount to is fucking managing an IHOP.
00:34:58
Speaker
yeah in Smallville. And then next thing you know, it's like she's talking to him. Yep. She's a reporter, so I get what he's trying to say. and He says she's a reporter, she can figure out she's the world's best reporter, I guess.
00:35:11
Speaker
um But it just felt so quick, so out of place. It just rushed, yes. Rushed, yep. um And the biggest controversy of this movie for me, up until the ending, is this scene right here.
00:35:25
Speaker
Okay, let me just pull up my notes right here because I did some research into tornadoes while I was watching this film. Alright, you go on with yours. I got my notes pulled up and I'll get into mine after you're done. If you've never seen the movie, there's a tornado that goes through Smallville.
00:35:41
Speaker
Jonathan and Clark are in their in their truck and Clark goes to save a whole bunch of people on the other from the tornado. I think he's trying to hide them from the tornado underneath the bridge.
00:35:53
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um And as the truck is going to be destroyed and Jonathan's going to be destroyed, he wants to run to help his father. Jonathan puts up his hand saying no because he doesn't want to risk a whole bunch of people seeing that he's Superman.
00:36:08
Speaker
And then the tornado comes, takes the truck, takes Jonathan, and he dies. yeah That's how he dies in this movie. He always dies in Superman's story, but the way he dies is fucking ridiculous. Yes.
00:36:21
Speaker
Over a dog. Yes, over a dog, yes. And the dog does run out of the truck. i have I have a bunch of issues with this entire scene. um When I saw Man Steel, I didn't have an issue with it.
00:36:34
Speaker
But as I've read, I have more issues with it now every time I see it. um It was a dumb death. Because one, he tells Cal to make sure everyone's safe under the overpass.
00:36:47
Speaker
Which, if you're in a tornado, is worse than being stuck in a tornado is to go under the underpass. Right.
00:37:01
Speaker
and you are essentially fucked now let's talk about cal or him telling cal not to not to get the dog or whatever holding cal back from san okay The fatality rate in tornadoes is literally 1%.
00:37:18
Speaker
There's a guy, David something I was reading about. He got picked up in a tornado. He was in the eye of the tornado and landed over a mile away from where the tornado was and lived with only a broken arm.
00:37:32
Speaker
my He knew that Cal could not be hurt by this tornado. Sure, he didn't he probably didn't know about the super speed yet. Because even though it's a 33-year-old Henry Cavill playing a 19-year-old Clark, he didn't know the extent of his powers.
00:37:44
Speaker
right And that was only because they wanted one scene with Cavill and the father, obviously. So it is what it is. It's like throwing a backwards hat on Jigsaw to make him 30 years younger. Whatever. yes So anyways, he could have survived this and nobody would have questioned that thing.
00:38:00
Speaker
Because people survive tornadoes all the time, especially in that area of the country. yeah um So to me, that's a huge thing. And that's also, I believe i read that that was a Zack Snyder thing.
00:38:15
Speaker
where Jonathan was in the first couple of drafts till Zach was attached this movie. Jonathan was going to live until Clark was at the Daily Planet. Like Jonathan was supposed to live throughout the entire movie.
00:38:26
Speaker
Similar to what we're getting in the new Superman. Cause I love, I love the Superman, Jonathan dynamic when Superman's actually like working the Daily Planet. Sometimes you have that story. Sometimes you don't depend on where they, where they were with the story.
00:38:36
Speaker
yeah But yeah, I think this entire scene is fucking stupid. And the Jonathan Kent stuff, that changed after Christ of Infinite Earths. Yes. and That was when he was, after that, he was alive. Jonathan Kent was alive throughout the entire thing. And he died during the death of Superman.
00:38:53
Speaker
Yep. All Seasons has some great Jonathan and older Cal stuff in it. A lot of other books, too. so Fast forward, current time.
00:39:05
Speaker
Zahn has found out where Kal-El is. And he starts his invasion process on Earth. um And the turmoil that happens on Earth through the army, through all the national media and everything, very cool how it played out in this movie.
00:39:21
Speaker
um Just the hysteria, the fear of what's going on. There's there's there's somebody there's something... A UFO flying over the Earth, sending this weird message message everybody's getting. This movie is basically an alien invasion movie. This is all this movie is.
00:39:34
Speaker
Yep, it is. Just as Superman. Clark, after he's got his powers, he's already flying he's already started flying. He's got a Superman suit. he went By the way, the Superman suit in this movie, already made made by Jor-El, is kind of like a space suit, kind of, with the l the l or the House of hope symbol under the SM. And that's him watching the live footage of the spaceship flying over Smallville. This is scene that I have my notes.
00:40:04
Speaker
I still get a lot of goosebumps. This scene, I love this scene a lot. Like when he's basically like trying to figure out yeah what to do and am I going to save the people Earth or not. This is all from the viral marketing campaign that i talked about in the beginning. This is the whole scene played out where he's saying, um surrender Kal-El.
00:40:23
Speaker
Or reap the consequences of what's going happen to you if he doesn't surrender. Yes. um So Superman ends up surrendering to the army. um Very cool for that scene. Before that, I want to get to one more thing. Yep. Scene with the priest.
00:40:37
Speaker
Yes. Who, by the way, i don't know if you know this, is the kid that's bullying him in the previous scene. There's a quick flashback to him as kid. Okay. Where Pete Ross gets Kevin Costner and he's like, Kevin Costner's like, did they hurt you? He's like, you know, they can't. And he's like, that's not what I mean.
00:40:53
Speaker
He's the kid with, he's allegedly the kid with the dark hair in that scene, which is why it goes to the priest scene. Also get goosebumps during that scene because the priest, like, he knows who Cal is. then when he finds out that's... He's like, oh, like he just kind of has like a grin on his face. love that scene. But he does surrender to the army.
00:41:10
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One of the colonels is Christopher Maloney. um yeah I like that scene of him flying over that's flying in front of the sun. The third scene that gives me goosebumps is Maloney saying, this man is not our enemy. I yeah i love that scene.
00:41:24
Speaker
And this was the big, huge viral marketing of Superman being arrested. Of course, being played out again and Superman, the new one. um And I love this scene too, reminiscent of the Dark Knight, bringing back the visuals of the interrogation room.
00:41:39
Speaker
yeah But he can see and hear everything. You see right through the double double double-sided glass. Guy's got wintergreen lifesavers, which is my favorite kind of lifesaver. Yeah. um And he meets Zod for the very first time, like Shannon Zod coming in, um and he starts to harvest his memories and goes into his brain and see where he's from in Kansas, showing him what will happen if he if if he doesn't surrender the whole entire landscape of what Zod has planned for the whole the whole world of Earth to take over.
00:42:11
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um and make it a Kryptonian metropolis. And he's standing on a whole bunch of skulls. is Basically, the ashes of Earth he's standing on. um And Superman's like, you're not going to do that. So they have a big, huge knockdown, drag out battle that starts in Smallville.
00:42:27
Speaker
Fiora goes in, starts choking Ma Kent. Superman's like, no, no, no, oh no. Don't get into the Martha stuff yet. That's next week. Well, that is her name.
00:42:39
Speaker
Yes, it is her name, but now they go into Smallville, have this really cool epic battle um right in front of a 7-Eleven, and he fights ah Kryptonians there, and then he ends up fighting.
00:42:50
Speaker
And then this whole invasion happens. um They have, what are what do those machines called? forgot to write them down. The World Enders. World Enders, something like that. um And they go and they're trying to terraform the Earth to make the atmosphere like Krypton so all the Kryptonians don't have to wear their face masks anymore because they're wearing these oxygen masks because they can't breathe on Earth. Like, Kal-El has lived there for so long that he's been accustomed to it. but The adapter, which they bring up earlier in the movie when Kent is basically like, I watched you struggle breathing when you were a child.
00:43:24
Speaker
But whats bring this brings on so much destruction. My big pet peeve any of these movies, even the Avengers movie, is so much destruction. you You know what I did during this scene? Okay, so um to me, the Smallville fight scene is probably my favorite action sequence in any Superman film. The Smallville fight is fucking fantastic. I love the Smallville fight.
00:43:48
Speaker
Then you get, like, literally overdrawn, way too much noise, way too much crap during the Metropolis fight. And, like, I literally just put in my headphones, just watched it, and just listened to music because I was getting a headache watching this shit.
00:44:02
Speaker
Yeah, it was a lot. It's a lot, yeah. Yeah, they, Perry White ends up saving... It's a Dragon Ball fight. It's a Dragon Ball fight. Exactly. For 45, 50 minutes. But at the end, Zahn...
00:44:15
Speaker
has been kind of defeated, his machine's been destroyed, um and he has a showdown with Superman. And Zod's finally finding his powers.
00:44:26
Speaker
Superman is taking aim, ready to fly at him. And Zod figures out that he can fly. He's got all these powers from the Earth sun, just like Superman does. And he has all the strength and everything from the the yellow sun.
00:44:38
Speaker
i love that visual of him just taking flight for the very first time. And then they have this big, huge, knock-down, drag-out flight flying over Metropolis. um And you think that Superman has met his match...
00:44:55
Speaker
And let's talk about it.
00:44:58
Speaker
When I left this movie 13 years ago, I told you I cannot stand how this scene played out at the end of this movie.
00:45:09
Speaker
Oh, exactly. Superman does not kill like this viciously.
00:45:18
Speaker
I know you must have notes on this scene in particular, I actually don't. I just wrote down, Oh, Zachary. Oh, Zachary. Because originally, in the script, he was going to be sent back to the Phantom Zone.
00:45:31
Speaker
Yes. um I don't know what... He kind of wrote himself into a corner here, which is the issue. Zod is so super-powered. Yes.
00:45:42
Speaker
And Superman knows that, if number one, he's about to kill all these innocent people, and that's not going to stop. It's going to keep going and going and going. How are you going to defeat Zod? There's not really Superman's decision in this movie. The only way to to defeat him is to break his neck yeah and kill him. they wrote themselves into a corner.
00:45:59
Speaker
Yeah, they had no they had no chance no choice to do it um But I did not like it. and A lot of people don't like it. It's a lot of pet peeves for a lot of people in this movie. This is actually one of my least... I don't really have too many pet peeves about this scene.
00:46:13
Speaker
I can't see what they're going for. um Really couldn't do much else. I mean... If he tried to like do something else, like cover his eyes or like lift him up, like whatever, this fucking movie never would have ended.
00:46:26
Speaker
um And at this point, I'm ready for this movie to just end. Because of last 45 minutes of nothing but noise. um the other so The other thing. Go on.
00:46:39
Speaker
Superman, upset after he killed Zod.
00:46:44
Speaker
Made no sense. Well, I mean, it makes sense because that's the last of his... The inner to strike the inner to maybe the inner turmoil inside of him doing that? Yeah, maybe. And it's also the only time in three movies of this that we see him with any emotion, which is kind of funny in hindsight.
00:47:02
Speaker
Nolan objected to this completely. Yeah. It was David S. Goyer changed his mind. It was his idea, or Zack Snyder's and his idea, I believe. It was Zack's idea, and Goyer wrote it, yeah, because Nolan wanted to end with him being put back in the Phantom Zone.
00:47:18
Speaker
They wanted to show Superman as an inexperienced superhero. um being unrefined yeah and not the hero that he's going to be later on. I get that. But it just it just so it's not the Superman I'm so used to seeing. Yeah, I know. yeah Killing is the last thing Superman wants to do even though it's his worst enemy.
00:47:37
Speaker
I'm guessing it probably doesn't affect me as much because I did not grow up on that Superman. This was literally my Superman oh in 2013 when I saw this movie. first movie i bought on iTunes, by the was Man Steel.
00:47:48
Speaker
Wow. So this was like, so that's probably why I don't have as much of an issue. Even after doing all my reading, I'm like, eh. Like, it is what it is. Like, probably should have been different, but... Right. We went through the hole we went through the whole movie.
00:48:01
Speaker
Lois knows that he's that he's Clark in Superman. Knows no secret there.
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00:48:07
Speaker
Clark does not, and that doesn't start out in the Daily Planet. It ends at the Daily Planet, and this is the last scene in the movie um with Henry Cavill wearing the glasses, the iconic Clark Kent look.
00:48:16
Speaker
This is almost as bad as Martha, the whole Welcome to the Planet. forced. It's very forced. Did like that. Did um like that No reason for him to be working there.
00:48:28
Speaker
And instead of Jimmy Olsen, there's Jenny. she was supposed to be a scene for Jimmy Olsen, which is fucking hilarious. I didn't notice that. Oh, wow. Okay. didn't even think, I didn't put two and two together on that. And Lombard, not Lombard fucking, it's not office space. Fucking, what's his name? The sports reporter there. Lombard. Lombard doesn't look anything like Lombard. No.
00:48:47
Speaker
He's basically just a creep in this movie. Yep. Yep. But yeah, that's the last scene in the movie, him showing up, getting a job somehow at the Daily Planet with no credentials. I mean, um to be fair, they did that in Smallville. He was like 19 working at the Daily Planet in Smallville.
00:49:01
Speaker
Yeah, he worked at his high school newspaper, so that gave him credentials. Yeah, you're right. That does make little sense. But still, they wouldn't hire some kid who just worked at high school newspaper to be working at New York Times. yeah But movie made million dollars in the budget.
00:49:18
Speaker
um I'm sorry. Had a $250 million budget. Before we get to that, dollar but I want to go into my notes that we did not get to. yeah go be Real quick. Rapid fire. Lois and Clark's zero chemistry. We talked about that off pod. Yep. Did they even test together in the same room?
00:49:34
Speaker
Methinks not. Yeah. I didn't really put that together until you mentioned it to me off pod last week. But after we've been going through this whole watch in the last six months. Yep.
00:49:45
Speaker
They have no chemistry whatsoever. They shouldn't even be on the screen together. Yeah. That's how bad it is. Yeah. um There's a picture that you post, I think, on your social media of them in a promo shot. Yes. Henry Cavill looks like he's tense but touching her, but he's like 10 feet away from her at the same time. It looks like he hasn't taken a shit in three days. Yes.
00:50:04
Speaker
He looks so uncomfortable, very uncomfortable, but yeah. Yeah, I didn't notice it until this week. Going on, I love Henry, but he is kind of wooden in this. A lot of his line delivery is pretty bad, and that doesn't get much better as we go on.
00:50:17
Speaker
I already kind of briefly mentioned this, but 19-year-old Clark, l LOL. um yeah Love that Cal doesn't fuck off for 12 years, like in 78, like it shows him helping people as opposed to going to the Forks of Solitude and then just appearing as Superman.
00:50:29
Speaker
I do like that little touch. Right, Without the meeting of the planet, there is no reason for him to love Lois and vice versa. Like, there's no reason for them to be in love with this movie or in the next movie. There's no, like, there's no reason for him to, like, but I guess that all takes place offscreen between the two movies.
00:50:49
Speaker
I don't know, man. But you still have explain where that chemistry is supposedly going to be coming from, and there's no explanation. Yes. I get that. And ah Superman is 33 when he first appears and on Earth or when they first find out about him.
00:51:01
Speaker
Same age as Jesus, but there's definitely no allegory for God in that whole situation. Um... And Zach could have been one of the greatest cinematographers of all time. We have been talking, like we talk about Frasier and anyone else.
00:51:14
Speaker
um But he chose to go in directing instead. So instead of being a top-notch cinematographer, he's a decent director. um I'll put him at decent director. And I like 85% of his films.
00:51:27
Speaker
um I'll say mediocre. What's that? I'll say mediocre for Zach. I don't think he's that great of a director. Visually, he's got some great scenes. I was trying not to use the word mediocre. Um, but because I do like 85% of his films, um, but yeah, I love the watch. He's, he's all visuals. He's all visuals.
00:51:47
Speaker
And anything that like 300 is basically a page for page remake of the book. Watchmen is essentially that he changes a few things in the story. Um, and then we get to his other DC stuff. Um, owls of the hole is fucking great.
00:52:01
Speaker
And of course we know about how we feel about rebel moon. So that being said, let's get into the monies. but money yes The monies. $225 million dollars budget. Made $670 million dollars in the box office. 291 of that North America.
00:52:16
Speaker
Not too shabby. More than what Returns made. So they already made $200 or $300 million more than that. So it's a success. Opening up a whole new universe.
00:52:28
Speaker
um And the speculation going into this is where are we going from here? And we'll get into that next week. Oh, yes, we will. week's going to be fun. i can't wait. Yeah, next week, as it opens up the whole entire world, the universe, that we did not expect Snyder to be in charge of.
00:52:47
Speaker
And here we are fifteen of home well going on 15 years later, and there's a whole entire conglomerate of fans that still wish that this was going on. Mm-hmm.
00:52:59
Speaker
That thing said, let's get into the news. Thanks, partner.
00:53:08
Speaker
And it's not the new segment of the trailer, aren't it? Three pretty decent trailers came out. Great trailer, great poster for the Naked Gun.
00:53:21
Speaker
Liam Neeson comes out August 1st. Great looking trailer. Got a new trailer for The Sandman. Comes out July 3rd. Just a couple of weeks. I cannot wait for this. um It sucks that it's the end. I love the first season so much.
00:53:37
Speaker
I'm thinking of going back and watching the first season. God damn you, Damon. God damn Yeah, it sucks it's not happening. Why are so many people Hollywood creeped? Fuck. I don't get it. but um And the trailer of the week.
00:53:49
Speaker
Yes! Springsteen, Deliver Me From Nowhere. Can't wait for this movie to be fucking c incredible make no money. It's going be awesome. but Jeremy Allen White playing Bruce Springsteen.
00:54:00
Speaker
Perfect. It picked up at the end when he started singing Born to Run. Holy shit. Incredible, and I cannot wait to see how that plays out. But...
00:54:11
Speaker
um Weekend box office last week. How to Train Your Dragon opened up with $83.7 million. Middle and Stitch, $15.5. Materialists, $12 million. That's the one with Pedro and Chris Evans. That's supposed to really good, too.
00:54:26
Speaker
Yeah, got great getting great reviews. How to Train Your Dragon opening day, $200 million globally. So, yeah, doing good, doing good ah decent numbers. Breaking news.
00:54:39
Speaker
I do have it. Joey Chestnut struck struck a deal with Nathan's to return to the July 4th hot dog eating contest. Do remember why he was barred last year? Because he had to deal with the deal yeah Impossible hot dogs. Yes, that's right. And Nathan's like, no, no, no, no. No no deal with it Impossible. You have to eat real Nathan's hot dogs.
00:54:59
Speaker
So they banned him from the shortly July 4th. They had the big huge Netflix thing with him and Kobayashi. But he's coming back next week for the July 4th hot dog eating contest. so ah Champions outlive...
00:55:13
Speaker
I don't know it the saying Greatest athlete of our generation, my friend. Greatest athlete of our generation. ah Yeah, he'll be he'll be play he'll be playing his best next week. Probably 33 Big Macs in 10 minutes during the pandemic. Fuck me.
00:55:26
Speaker
How the hell? I can't even through this. Or maybe it was 15 minutes. I forget what it was. It was like 33 Big Macs in like 15 minutes. Yep. But yep, we'll talk about that probably in a couple weeks. Tom Cruise. We mentioned it when the Oscars, when they came up with this thing for the stunt coordinator. They're going to have the best stunt coordinator award.
00:55:45
Speaker
Tom Cruise should be the one to give out that award. Well, they're actually going to be giving him an honorary Oscar this year. um It's going to give him ah for a commitment to filmmaking and theatrical experience in the stunt community. So was kind of right on that. Good. um Yeah. ah yeah don' He's won for...
00:56:03
Speaker
ah Magnolia? Is that the movie he won for? Something like that. believe it was Magnolia. yeah But yeah, Tom Cruise. Our last movie star.
00:56:15
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Tom Cruise. yeah Him and Brad Pitt. yep um Happy Gilmore 2. Brand new poster with Adam Sandler. Comes out on the end and end of July. July 24th. The weekend of Fantastic Four.
00:56:28
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is this Is this guy over here Danny McBride? Looks like Daniel. No. right that's bad that's That's Bad Bunny. Oh, shut the fuck. Okay. Yes. He plays the caddy in that movie. Okay. um Brand new picture of the new He-Man.
00:56:43
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Yes. um From what I hear, this guy is being canceled at the moment. And they're kind of being quiet about the movie. So we'll see how the promotion of that goes. um Speaking of Sandman earlier, brand new pictures of the Sandman. Cannot wait.
00:56:58
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And we got a picture of Jack Gleeson, who was in Game of Thrones. What was his name in Game of Thrones? The young kid. Joffrey. Joffrey, yep.
00:57:09
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Playing this weird-looking priest named Freddy. and I know that's a puck and Freddie Fox is playing Loki. I can't remember what Freddie Fox has been in, but he looks familiar. But yeah, and this comes out July 3rd, the first part of Netflix. I cannot wait.
00:57:24
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um Harold and Kumar getting a new sequel about 10, 15 years too late. Cobra Kai Creators is her next project.
00:57:35
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Bringing in Cal Penn and what's his name? Harold Ankumar. The other one. The other one. ah They had a Christmas one. They had Cotanamo Bay. They had White Castle in the first one.
00:57:46
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I think White Castle is the only one I've seen. ah White Castle is pretty good. The Christmas one was weird. It was a 3D one. i remember that. Yeah. um Speaking of Tom Cruise earlier, Days of Thunder 2 was officially in the works and Tom Cruise is going to star.
00:57:58
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Why? I don't know. I haven't even seen the first one, but hear mixed things. But, like, the first Days of Thunder was not the first Top Gun in the same, you know? Like, it was just a regular 80s Tom Cruise movie about a race truck car driver.
00:58:13
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Yeah. Yeah. Um, Dan Trachtenberg. We talked about Predator, all Predator all the time last week. um talking about what he's going to do for his next Predator film after Badlands.
00:58:24
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He says he wants to bring back Nauru, who was the indian the Native American fighter who was in Prey. and She wants to follow up. It'll get made depending on Badlands. um and It'll be a killer of killers follow up as well if Badlands performs well. so Hopefully they do. I hope people see those movies. Me too. We both wanted Prey to be in theaters after we watched it.
00:58:48
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um Joining the cast of Hunger Games, Sunrise of the Reaping, Glenn Close. Don't know who the character is, but yeah. Billy Porter. I don't really know much about him other than his Oscar carpet stuff that he does.
00:59:00
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um Netflix has picked up Tom Segura's Bad Thoughts for season two. Great first season. um If you can get through the first episode, it's pretty dark humor. I gotta watch that because love Tom Segura.
00:59:11
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get through it's It's very much on the on the line of Dave Chappelle, The Chappelle Show. Very much on the line of that. and I might check that out. Little cringe. Some of it's cringe-worthy. Especially the first one, yeah.
00:59:23
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First episode. Reacher, season four, has cast three new ah regulars for the for for that season. Most notably, Jay Pershing.
00:59:34
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We love that guy. Love Jay. He's been in everything for my favorite show of all time. Dude doesn't age in 20 years. Yeah, it's not. did Not at all. Him and Ant-Man, they just don't age. Yep. But yeah, looking forward to that. Just going into production soon.
00:59:48
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Dune Messiah has cast the children of Paul Atreides and Zendaya. um And one of the kids is mid ah Jason Momoa's son.
00:59:59
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The kid on the right there. Daughter. son. yes Yeah, yeah, yeah. Interesting. That's good because Momoa will be back, as we know. Yeah, he will. Yep, yep. And Christian Carmago. Carmago, I don't know who.
01:00:10
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but He played Brian Moser in the original Dexter. And it looks like he's going to be returning for Dexter Resurrection. Cool. I guess the guy's talking talking about it. So we've got a couple more weeks on that to talk about as well.
01:00:23
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um Scarlett Johansson, Jurassic Park Rebirth, says she it honors the original. I think it really is a love letter to Steven Spielberg. Fans of the Jurassic universe can expect to really feel the DNA of the original Jurassic Park in this film.
01:00:38
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getting terrible reviews, but all of them have for a while, so yeah not surprised. um This news came out today, very cool news. Russell Crowe joining Henry Cavill I love how our show links up to the news articles of the week sometimes.
01:00:56
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um Joining Henry Cavill in the Highlander movie, the Highlander reboot. um He's going to be playing the character that was played by Connery. Also, I know i mentioned I mentioned to you off-pod, I forgot to mention the Man Steel.
01:01:08
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We happen to be reviewing Man of Steel on the anniversary of it's coming out, which is fucking wild too, how i lined up like that. yeah Yeah, very strange. ah Speaking of casting, Dave Bautista...
01:01:20
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is being eyed to star in Roadhouse 2 with Jake Gyllenhaal. I love Batista. I saw, I forget who was, but he's basically, I heard the rumor that he's going to play a character from the original Roadhouse that wasn't used in the rebooted Roadhouse.
01:01:37
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Okay. So we'll see. that's That's just what somebody online said, so take that with a giant fucking grain salt. Speaking of taking this with a grain of salt. Okay. Okay. Aaron Pierre, one of the names being considered for the next James Bond.
01:01:52
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Um, yes. I love him. I love him. love him. If they were to do an African-American Bond, I would have no problem with it. um Everyone still throws around Idris Elba, even though he's like damn near 60. He's old So Idris would have been a good candidate if they were going to an African-American Bond around the time Craig joined.
01:02:12
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But, I mean, if they sign Pierre, I think Pierre is going to absolutely kill it. I just don't know if that's the way to go with this franchise. All depends on the creator.
01:02:22
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They're going to choose to direct this. And if the writing is good, then it's going to be fine, but we'll see. This article came out today. The names being pitched for the next James Bond movie for director include Edward Berger. Don't know who that is. Denny.
01:02:36
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Denny Villeneuve. I don't want to see that either. Edgar Wright. I do not want to see that. Edgar Wright would be on board. I want to see Edgar Wright. Jonathan Nolan. I would love to see that. I would love Jonathan Nolan also.
01:02:47
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Paul King. um Alfonso Corrin he was one who directed Venom I believe in one of the Harry Potter movies or maybe a couple of them but he was a front earner he has since dropped out we'll know more about this it seems like they're in the realm of casting Edgar Ryder Jonathan Nolan um of course yeah i mean my big thing would be Christopher Nolan but they would have to give him complete creative control he would get final directors cut he would get everything probably have to a trilogy out of it
01:03:19
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If you were Amazon... If you were Amazon with a name like Christopher Nolan and his pedigree, every single movie getting spectacular reviews from critics and fans...
01:03:33
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You would give him that control. Christopher Nolan's favorite movie all time is Honor and Majesty's Secret Service. Okay. If I was Amazon, would hire... One of my favorite movies. Yes. I would hire Jonathan Nolan to write, and I would hire Christopher Nolan to direct. Fuck. like to see they work on the script together, and just let that play out.
01:03:50
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When does... Chris Nolan has carte blanche right now in Hollywood. He can literally do anything he wants. I think this would be... He turned down Troy, and now he's basically making the sequel to Troy as we speak.
01:04:01
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So... Chris Nolan, you do know wrong. He loves Bond. um I just want whoever takes over this this franchise, I want it to come from a place of love and not a place of this is my next big check.
01:04:14
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Yeah, this be a passion project for Christopher Nolan. Yeah, for sure. It would be, he probably is. Yeah. Yeah. yeah um Yeah, I think if Amazon were in the right mind, I think they should definitely consider it.
01:04:27
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yeah Talk about the money. The money they bought for this franchise, the amount of money they'd have to give. i Get it off on a good foot with Christopher Nolan, please. Yeah, fuck. Oh, my God. That would be so... Could you imagine if we had a Nolan? Who would be Nolan's ideal part to be a Bond?
01:04:44
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You want me to say it? Don't say Tom Hardy. Cavill. Ooh. Yeah, you're Thousand percent. Like I said, he's the one that pushed for Cavill for Superman when they found out Joe Mangiello couldn't do it.
01:04:58
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i believe I believe he could do ah because I mean, people say Cavill's old, but he's 42 right now. He turns 42 this year at some point. um I think he just turned 42 in May. um So he could easily do this role. I mean, Roger Moore was 55 in his first Bond movie.
01:05:13
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So he could do this, play Bond for 10 years, but... I'm thinking of regulars that work with Christopher Nolan. like I don't know if I could see Killian Murphy playing him. i would i would That was going to be my second guess, is that Killian would be one of the guys he would think about doing. Killian's been in all of his movies. oh I think maybe 10 years ago, I think Bale could have played him, Christian Bale.
01:05:38
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He could have. I think 10 years ago, if Nolan got this job, Cavill definitely would have been Bond. I think Cavill 10 years ago. Yeah, I think Cavill 10 years ago. But even like you mentioned, Cavill now would be pretty spectacular, especially after we've seen him in Argyle. We've seen him in the Ministry.
01:05:56
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I love that movie. Yeah, he's great in that too. The one I tell to watch that movie loves it, yeah. Yeah, me too. um I wanted to mention this because it's it's kind of swag, but it's not. but I don't even have a picture of it. came out today. John Williams has this whole anthology box set of everything from the 70s and 80s coming out on CD. I'm hoping it comes out on vinyl.
01:06:18
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Today is the anniversary of your Jaws also, by the way. but yeah Yes, yes. And it's back in theaters, too, if you want to watch it. I always say I want to see Jaws, but I want to see it in a pool or in the ocean.
01:06:30
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It's being played on the big screen on the shore. um John Williams' anthology 1969-1990 all the soundtracks from that time period Very, very cool on CD. Probably, I'm guessing, coming out on vinyl at some time, but at some point.
01:06:45
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That's cool. That would worth getting on vinyl. I wouldn't pay for a CD these days. This
Merchandise and Marvel Updates
01:06:51
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VR game looks spectacular. so hole It's called a Titanic Escape Simulator.
01:06:56
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And you're on the Titanic as it's sinking, and you're simulating the whole entire thing trying to escape. I think that's probably one of the most duc creative VR things I've ever seen. That'd be so much better if you could do it in a 4D exterior, have water flowing over you.
01:07:10
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Oh my god. Comes out sometime on PlayStation on 2026 with PSVR. That's dope. bestto Warner Brothers um has resurrected its operations in the game department, and they're focusing on four key franchises. Harry Potter, Game of Thrones, Mortal Kombat, and DC.
01:07:31
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Not Lord of the Rings, nothing else. That's it. um Yeah, interesting. wonder Lord of the Rings has a deal somewhere else. Yeah, because they're Amazon show, yeah possibly, yeah. um Let's get into a couple things of swag.
01:07:48
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Swag! Stuff we all get. Come on, son. You know that's right. These are shelf-worthy material right here, especially the Doc and Marty um out of time at the Twin Malls.
01:08:01
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Yeah, it looks awesome. um You don't see too many pop figures with the facial expressions. Usually they have the old the old stoic facial expressions. But yeah, this is them shocked as the time machine goes off into time. So yeah, really, really cool.
01:08:16
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And of course, Doc riding in the time machine as well. Got some glimpses of the Fantastic Four in their spacesuits in Fantastic Four First Steps as as ah pop figures. Looks really cool.
01:08:27
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um This weird popcorn bucket which with ah Mr. Fantastic stretched around it. um Speaking of Fantastic Four, we get Giganto, the very first villain in Fantastic Four number one in a, of all things, a pizza commercial for Little Caesars.
01:08:44
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But the very first glimpse of him looks comic book accurate, and we know... um There's going to be some flashbacks in this movie going back to the first time they fought him. um There's a memorial statue of that fight as well.
01:08:57
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So yeah, um excited for that movie, excited for Superman. Great time to be a fan of comics and geekdom in general. um Robert Downey Jr. showed up, Ironheart, full in promotion right now.
01:09:09
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Showed up in and told Dominique Thorne, who's playing Riri, kind of handing handing the torch to her, saying, yeah, ah Iron Man loves Ironheart.
01:09:20
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So, comes out next week, first three episodes, and the week after the second three episodes. So, it's airing in two weeks. It'll be all done. so um I cannot wait, kind of. so We'll talk about it in a second here. but um The episode guide.
01:09:36
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We've got the episodes for that. um Of note is episode five. The M is highlighted in red.
01:09:48
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Is that where Mephisto debuts? I don't even want to talk about Mephisto anymore. because Until I see him. We've weve been through this with WandaVision, bro. I'm done. done talking about Mephisto.
01:10:00
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It's been going on five years, Mephisto. Where is he? It's weird the show is coming out soon and it seems like Marvel's burying it as far as promotion goes. So we'll see.
01:10:11
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If anything, if Mephisto debuts in anything because he has so much connection to the hood, the hood gets his magical powers from the devil in the comic books. He gets it from Mephisto.
01:10:23
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If we see Mephisto in anything, it would be this movie that the rumor has been all along that it's Sacha Baron Cohen coming in. Yep. That was the rumor during WandaVision, for Christ's sake. Right. the The big rumor in this is that Dormammu makes a an appearance in this as well.
01:10:40
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Recommended viewing for this movie, they said, was Doctor Strange and Multiverse of Madness, the two movies, were part of that, including Iron Man 1, 2, and 3, and Black Panther, of course, because that's where we re-debuted, but...
01:10:55
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recommended viewing. That was part of it, the Doctor Strange story. So, I'm wondering, i know Magic's going to playing a huge part with the hood, so I'm wondering where the story's going to go. We'll get three episodes next week, three episodes on July 1st, so we'll talk about it.
01:11:11
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um Spider-Man 94, a brand new comic, four issue, coming out inspired by the cliffhanger, continuing the cliffhanger from the 90s Spider-Man animated series, which I'm in love with. I loved it. yeah i just this This comic seems right up your alley.
01:11:26
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Only four issues. Four issues. The creator had no input in it he went on and He went online talking about he had no input into it whatsoever. But continuing the story of where it left off and seeing where that goes. me interest Interesting. Interesting.
01:11:40
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um Thunderbolts coming out on digital on July 1st next week. Thank God. I've been waiting to see this movie forever, so I will be giving you my review as soon as it. Yeah, great movie.
01:11:53
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um We'll talk about the director of that minute. um We got a new steelbook for that. it looks cool. they actually have the new Avengers on the label of that. they're They cool bid they'd abandoned the Thunderbolts that weekend.
01:12:04
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of Speaking of Thunderbolts, the director officially has been announced through Variety. um is Jack Sharier, who was director of Thunderbolts, is going to be directing the X-Men.
01:12:16
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and That was officially announced in a Variety article this week. um And Marvel Studios reportedly has four major movies in development, that being one of them. ah Fantastic Four First Steps has a sequel, Blade back in production, and Black Panther 3, which we know that Ryan Coogler is in the middle of right now with Denzel Washington coming in to play a role, so...
01:12:38
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Very exciting time. um And they also added a date for December 15th, 2028. The Decembers before that, they got Secret Wars. And then before that, we got Doomsday.
01:12:50
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So everybody's speculating, is this a new Marvel, like Star Wars did this? Is this the time to get the fans to go see in December instead of the... Memorial Day weekend, or the May 1st weekend, beginning of May, opening summer blockbuster season, are they going doing that in December now?
01:13:09
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Could this be X-Men? Could this be a next next big tentpole, huge crossover movie? if if I hope it's X-Men. It'll work, if it is, yeah. I've heard that Variety announcing that, if you actually read the article, they don't say he's the director, but they kind of head towards him being the frontrunner.
01:13:23
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So I hope that if he's signed on soon, like maybe just hasn't signed it on the line yet, that they can get it in production as soon as possible, and it's an X-Men movie, is my hope. Massive DC news this week. Lots of it.
01:13:35
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First one is the casting of Clayface. Tom Rice Harry's unknown character. He's in a Netflix movie. i can't remember what it was about, but I heard about it this week. but Technically, it's pronounced Reese Harrys.
01:13:48
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Reese Harrys. He's Welsh. Yeah, that's how spell Reese. Okay. But he's going to playing Clayface. movie ah based off of um Movies based off of the animated series with Mike Flanagan wrote it that way. Very exciting.
01:14:04
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um Batman Begins. David S. Goyer. says that Christopher Nolan told him not to go and write for Ben Affleck's Batman because it's confusing. We did one and just stick with that.
01:14:16
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um Yeah, I just have a feeling there was just so much going on at the time. when no like yeah Honestly, though, that movie might have actually got made if Goyer did write it because of the faith Warner Brothers would have had in him doing Batman after the Dark Knight.
01:14:29
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Um, but yeah, there's just so much baggage with everything at that time. I mean, they, they, certain people rarely ever bring it up that They blame Jeff Johns for a lot of it, but he's the one that co-wrote the script with Ben Affleck instead of Goyer. So, uh, right.
01:14:45
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Yeah. There was just a lot of baggage by the time that movie was getting ready to roll. Right. Right. Um, lanterns, um, the director, James Hawes promises that intergalactic elements are, going be a part of the max series.
01:14:58
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Quote, it won't disappoint the classic fans. We get to meet the characters in quite a rooted way before it takes you intergalactic. Love that. We're going to be seeing The Lanterns, which is going to be exciting.
01:15:09
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And Aaron Pierre, I cannot wait to see him. um It's a buddy cop movie. And then somebody flies, basically, what they say. ah Mixed between True Detective, Fargo, and No Country for Old Men. so You still got to watch the first season of True Detective.
01:15:24
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I have seen it. Oh, yeah, that's right. I did watch it. you did watch it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. um And Superman. It's Superman all the time this week. ah Rachel Brosnahan. um Saying that actors need to stop complaining about their superhero movies.
01:15:38
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Saying, i don't I don't know why people say yes to a project only to then turn around and complain about it. Do or don't do it and then stand by it. I think she's completely right. yep A lot of people are turncoats in Hollywood.
01:15:50
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um The whole Madam Web of it all last year and how Dakota Johnson and promotion started bad-mouthing it. um Yeah. ah People Magazine.
01:16:01
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ah Meet the sexy new Superman. David Kornstead on the cover. um Yeah, this movie is in full promotion mode. Going to be a lot more coming up soon the next couple of weeks. They haven't even done the ah the media circuit, really. They've just done interviews, so soon you'll see them on like Jimmy Kimmel and Fallon and all that stuff. so yeah James Gunn was on an interview today. can't remember if it was on BuzzFeed in the article. it's on um If you go to HBO Max, it's on their DC Daily. That's what it was. They've been doing every actor from the movie. they It comes out every two weeks. next two weeks from now is going Corn Sweat and Holt will be on it.
01:16:39
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o It's a very good interview with James. um There's one thing I'll talk about in little bit after you get through this.
James Gunn on DC Projects
01:16:44
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Yep, but ah talking about the robots in Superman, we already know that Alan Tudyk's playing the number four, but he says that Bradley Cooper, Palm from Guardians of the Galaxy, played Mantis, and Michael Rooker are the other robots.
01:16:58
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um We thought that Bradley was going to be playing Jor-El. Seems like that's not the case, as far as we know. um So who's Jor-El? Is there a Jor-El in this movie? We're not sure. That's what we're still wondering.
01:17:10
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But, um yeah, the other thing I really wanted to bring up real quick is in the interview, at least the one I i saw on HBO Max, is they were talking about Supergirl and how Lobo was originally had a huge arc in Woman of Tomorrow, but they to remove it because of the amount of issues they were doing.
01:17:24
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So that's why he's actually in the movies because right he's supposed to be in the book. Yeah, you mentioned that before. yeah um And this big, huge Rolling Stone article came out this week with James Gunn, and there's a lot of stuff to pick from it.
01:17:35
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I got some notes. We'll go through a little bit one by one. but um James talks about the DCU and the Batman merger and what happens to Batman Part 2.
01:17:47
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um He said, i I would never say zero um because you just never know, but it's not likely. It's not likely at all. Talking about Part 2, the Batman um being a part, Robert Pattinson being a part of his DCU.
01:18:03
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um It's not canceled. He's just giving... he's Basically, what he's saying is Matt Sloan is giving him time to give his script in. um But he has faith in him in that story and finishing it. i like I like how he said Matt Sloan, and then like an hour after that broke, they said that Matt was going to hit him with script on Monday. On Monday. Yeah, I saw that.
01:18:21
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I was like, slow, fuck off. Use my script. The other thing that the media was taking up on, geek media was taking up on, was the possibility of Spider-Man and Superman teaming up in a film.
01:18:33
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um If we ever did it, it would have to be under someone who thought it was going to be awesome and wasn't just a cash grab because I'm just not into that. um So in other words, it would have to be somebody that just love those who loves those two characters or loves a crossover like that, like an Avengers vs. Justice League type of movie.
01:18:54
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it would have to It would have to be somebody that loves that, not just for the further marketing, for the toys, for everything. It would have to be somebody that's neutral party for everything. um yeah I don't know how that would be. It would be way down the line. and They're just at the infancy of the DCU right now. so um Batman is his biggest issue developing in the DCU right now.
01:19:15
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um I'm not writing Batman, but I am working with the writer of Batman and trying to get it right. Our two priorities right now are finishing Wonder Woman and our Batman scripts. I mean, the reason why Batman is so hard is because you've had tons of Batman stories already told in the film.
01:19:30
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He's trying to find what's that one story we haven't told yet. What can we tell that's new? And how can we make this Batman, especially like how can we make this Batman different from the Pattinson Batman, different without making campy, of course, different than the Bale Batman, every other Batman that came before it. So, yeah.
01:19:46
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He did say, no camp, no funny, not interested in that, not interested in a funny, campy Batman at all. Which is good, because I was actually concerned about that when he took over, because the way James Gunn writes, and so that just alleviates a lot of stuff for me. Talked about the Sergeant Rock movie. He says, I feel like we're in a pretty good place. We're still moving forward, but it's not going to be... What would Peter want me to say here? So it's still moving forward, but yeah, right now it wasn't exactly where I wanted to be creatively.
01:20:16
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So he needs to change a little bit. So he took it off the table because of that. um He looks like he's giving the creators the time to write their stories. And if they're not right to the point, he's going to just take it off the cho shake it off and chop it up a little bit to make it up to standards or whatever he's telling for his overall story.
01:20:34
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um About this gods and monsters phase of this whole entire universe that he's created, um he has a favorite DCU project that has not been announced yet. um And he I think he mentioned something about he didn't want it to get out because he didn't want other people like Marvel or anybody else to copy the idea. I was to say, it reminds me of when BVS was announced and Marvel changed their plans for Cap 3 and did Civil War.
01:20:54
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yeah And announced that Civil War was coming out the same day as BVS, which then made Warner Brothers move BVS. Yeah. um But he says there's another TV show that's his favorite thing of all of this, um hopefully getting made soon.
01:21:07
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um He says there's a movie, and he shuts himself up before he talks about it. um He's not allowed to say what it is. um There's a couple other movies that are being written. One of one of them is pretty in pretty good shape. um Another one that's getting closer to the start, and another one that he's writing for his next project. So, the one he's been talking about for a while, which we've seen as a sequel to Superman.
01:21:28
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um James Gunn says a very famous actor is still working on is working on a DC Elseworlds project, which speculation is Michael B. Jordan's Black Superman, which was one of the movies that was planned before James Gunn took over.
01:21:44
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i just hope it's... It was supposed to be an African-American Clark Kent story. I just hope they go with Val Zod. That's a story that's never been told, so would be fresh and unique. I would love a Val Zod story. But he said in order for it to be be to take place in his new DC universe, it has to be a masterpiece. Yes. Masterpiece.
01:22:02
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um He confirmed Supergirl Woman Tomorrow may have been retitled to Supergirl. Still deciding on that. um Also said the Superman's flying scene in the trailer... this picture right here with the cross eyes, um yeah he did not love the shot the way it turned out, so he removed it from the film, but it's in the trailers if you've seen it.
01:22:20
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I actually like it. I don't mind a lot of people i don't mind it. don't at all. It looks fine if you watch the HD, not the compressed version that people share around the internet. Right. Lex looks at Superman like artists look at AI.
01:22:32
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um He's not a real human, in other words. He talks about Superman and the Lex Luthor in this Superman. He clarifies that a Warner Brothers does not depend on Superman.
01:22:43
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um In other words, this does not need to be a huge blockbuster to... show the success of how how how how far far we can get in this DCU. Just like Iron Man was not a huge, big, huge blocksoff box office success, it was a success, but it wasn't the $300 million dollars opening weekend that everybody's speculating a movie needs to be nowadays.
01:23:05
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Um, it just needs to be successful in order to make the next thing and and to continue the story, but it doesn't have to be the ultimate big, huge movie of an end game level, whatever. But, um, what else did he say? Regarding, uh, scrapping the legacy subtitle for Superman, even though I was one of the gave it, the gave it that title, I just wasn't sure. First of all, I'm sick of Superman hero title, the colon.
01:23:30
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The other name thing. So yeah, Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3. BVS, Dawn of Justice. Right. He's sick of the colons. um And Marvel is it's all in the colon thing. So yeah. mom He also talks about the movie movie... Says movie industry is dying, mainly because people are making movies without a finished screenplay.
01:23:49
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I think this is the best thing he said in the article. Um, cause he's totally right. Um, Marvel has this problem. Uh, Star Wars has Marvel. Marvel lucked out with Iron Man script not being finished cause they had Jon Favreau in control things.
01:24:03
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But outside of that, it's a thousand percent correct. Yeah. Yeah. I love that he said that. Um, and, uh, he He addressed DC fan who said, um who wants to restore the Snyderverse. This went over all over on the internet.
01:24:20
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um Saying that, um I don't remember if you remember the article, but he said that, When this movie comes out, let's boycott it. Let's bash it on Rotten Tomatoes. Let's bash it as much as we can.
01:24:31
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Reserve tickets and then don't show up so no one else can go see it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he says, uh, eight people. I'm not sure the eight people that are complaining about it, you're going actually listen to that guy. It's not going impact the course of our events. I'm just assuming it's the guy.
01:24:44
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Yes. But every single person on Twitter that's part of the cult, I'll say, um They're all saying that it was a James Gunn DC fan that did just to make them look bad.
01:24:56
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Oh, man. ah But, yeah, he he says he thinks he thinks we'll survive. so Yeah. um And finally, came out today the best poster for Superman. It's so dope.
01:25:09
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They've been doing these 30-minute screenings um all around. They're starting this week. I think a Manila was where it was last night or the night before. um But this poster is so retro And I mentioned to you off-pod, I love the way the cape is on the black back black border because it looks like it's popping off of the frame. I kind of wish it was just Superman, though. They didn't have the the faces underneath, but I'm in love with this poster. But that's reminiscent of the Superman or eighty but he just looks so superman in that florida
01:25:40
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Yeah, looks awesome. i Cannot wait. Next week, this's the end that's that's it for this show. Next week, Ironheart premieres. Talk about that on the 24th. On the 25th, The Bear.
01:25:52
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Every single episode of The Bear Season 4 premieres on Hulu. Next week, the year of Superman continues in the Snyderverse. Batman vs. Superman, Dawn of Justice.
01:26:07
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They open up the Justice League of it it all. They not only bring in Batman, but they bring in Wonder Woman. um There's a lot of that movie I love. There's some of it that are really cringeworthy. That's the Martha of it all. It's going to fun. It's going be a lot of fun next week.
01:26:20
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The other thing, Brightburn. I have not seen that. I'm going to be watching it next week. We'll talk about that. um In our comic review, our final one for Superman this year, or for now at least, Kingdom Come.
01:26:31
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movie This is the one we wanted to end on before we get into suit before we get into Superman. So Kingdom time kingdom Come. I mean, mostly i mean Alex Ross mostly regarded as one of the best Superman
Upcoming Superman Reviews
01:26:46
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stories.
01:26:46
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So I'm excited to read that and get into it. And that's just the beginning. In a couple weeks, we're going to dissect the Justice League movie. See where what happened with Zack Snyder. Which Justice League movie?
01:27:02
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We're going to... I'm going to... I'm going to do it. You don't have to do it. I'm going to watch both. Okay. I watched... I recently watched Justice League. im Probably not going to watch it again. I have all my notes saved from that, though, so... Good. um I might actually watch Zack Snyder's Justice League because I do have that on 4K. It looks fucking fantastic. Yeah. I'm going to compare them both, and I'm going to look up... Also, the other thing i was going to ask you, Batman v Superman, they have the ultimate cut, which is far superior from the original. We're going watch that next week. That's the one I'm watching.
01:27:29
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Yeah. Yeah. And then the week after that, the finale of Superman. It leads up to the review of the movie, the new one. We're going to have a jam-packed episode that week. I'm not going to get into all the particulars, but, I mean, we got the end of the Snyderverse, how it imploded pretty much with The Flash, with Black Adam. We're to talk all about that the Superman cameo at the end of bat Black Adam and talk about how that fucking fucked up everything.
01:27:53
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um And we'll talk a little bit about Superman and Lois. Talk about the show Krypton. don't know if you've seen any of the show Krypton. I've seen the entire thing. I fucking loved it. It was great. then it was canceled. I started watching it. Literally, as the second season was ending, they were like, oh, we're done. I was like, goddammit. We'll talk about that. We'll talk about everything leading up to what the reboot happened and why James Gunn took over. Just let you know, Aaron Pierre is one of the feature characters in Krypton.
01:28:16
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Excellent. So, yeah, very excited to talk about those and get into the big huge review of next month will be Superman just in, what, three weeks from now? Two weeks from now? Holy shit. Very, very close. Oh, my God.
01:28:30
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