The Heat (2013)

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Speaker: All right. Well, welcome everyone to the Stakeouts and Shakedowns podcast. ah Feels good to be back. I took an unintended hiatus from this program.

Speaker: I had the best of intentions to do an episode following our wonderful, ah spooky Halloween episode of Dead Heat. I had already picked out what I was going to do in November and my guest in November. And then November got really busy. If you want to know a little bit about my life, I tested for my black belt. in karate in November and things got a little crazy.

Speaker: And then ah in December, it was the holidays. It was Christmas. And so that got busy. And then I'm just going to tell you, January and February felt like they didn't exist. So here we are, March 2026th. And this podcast is back from its unintended hiatus. I hope you enjoyed your break.

Speaker: I am Wes Clifton. I'm the host of the Stakeouts and Shakedowns podcast, a buddy cop film review slash history podcast. I'm just a movie nerd who loves to watch movies and talk to my friends about them. And I'm really glad you're here. My guest today is a very special guest.

Speaker: It's my girlfriend, the wonderful and talented Crystal Penton. Mi amor, how's it going? Good. How are you doing? i am doing very, very well. I'm glad that you wanted to do this.

Speaker: Me too. I think it's going to be fun. ah Crystal, I know a lot about you. Uh, maybe tell the listeners at home, ah anything you'd like them to know about you. Um, so I think I'm kind of different than your usual guests because I'm not like full on movie nerd, like many of your other friends have been.

Speaker: Um, so things I'm into are like quilts and sewing. um Jane Austen. i like to drink tea and just kind of like have a cozy vibe.

Speaker: i don't know what else. No, I like that because I feel like that's already bringing a particular brand of highbrow to this podcast that's sometimes missing. Just a little tea, little quilting, a little Jane Austen, bringing that on in to mix in with my Canon films, watching people blow stuff up, Jean-Claude Van Damme vibe that I usually have going on. So pretty great. think they compliment each other, right? Yes, yes. So the fact that you are not a traditional movie nerd, uh...

Speaker: I will was the reason why I was kind of surprised when you said you wanted to do an episode. So just to tell the people this episode, which we haven't said yet what we're doing today, but this episode is what we were going to do in November. We got together, we watched the movie, we were ready to go, and then everything just got crazy. And so now we are just bringing that forward into the year 2026. Crystal, I think that the thing that I like to do on this podcast to let the people at home know a little bit about the guests is to ask a handful of questions, which I will ask you now. So first off, what are some of your favorite movies?

Speaker: So the first one that comes to mind when i think favorite movies is actually Last of the Mohicans. I love that movie. And we recently missed an opportunity to see it in the theater, and I'm still sad about that. I wasn't going to bring it up.

Speaker: Well, I was because it hurts me in my heart. It's very tragic. I know. um Another one of my favorite movies is Little Women, both the 90s version and the newer version that came out in like 2019 or 2020.

Speaker: um I think Little Women is just like my favorite story, like book. And then to see it as a movie, they're both really good in different ways. Both those versions.

Speaker: Um, What else? Pride and Prejudice. Yeah, probably Pride and Prejudice. The 2005 one is, I love the score to that. And I just think it's like one of the most beautifully shot movies ever.

Speaker: You saw it with me recently. I did. You we are opening. We have we have opened each other's eyes to so many films. ah You you have seen The Glimmer Man and ah Invasion USA and I have seen Little Women and Pride and Prejudice. So we're doing really great. um So, yeah, great. Well, Crystal, so what is ah do you have a favorite buddy cop film?

Speaker: Also, I had to look at your list because I was like, well, I can't even think of what's about it. You mean the stakeouts and shakedowns list on Letterboxd? That's a really good and comprehensive list that everybody should go check out. It 140 something movies on there. Yeah, yeah and that one.

Speaker: So I think three stood out to me. So Rush Hour, I feel like is definitely on the top of that list because that one came out. Was it in the 90s when that came out? Yeah. Yeah. So we were kids and it was just kind of like that time in life when like movies were king, right? Yes. Absolutely. And it was a big one.

Speaker: um Hot Fuzz was another one. Awesome. And then you haven't seen this one, I don't think, but 21 Jump Street. Correct. Channing Tatum and Jonah Hill. So funny.

Speaker: I have not seen it, but it is on the list because the list is meant to be wide and comprehensive. But no, I've actually not seen that. I'm told it's good. ah Rush Hour, you you may or may not know this about me. When I went to college, I got my first DVD player and I had to select. i had to make a very difficult decision to select the two d the DVDs that I will be bringing with me.

Speaker: to college and I decided to only take two I don't know I had to go buy two I had no DVDs I'm saying I had to go I had my first DVD player I had to go buy some DVDs so actually I had three because somehow I ended up with like this like punk rock i can't remember if it was like a Christian punk or just a regular punk rock like variety DVD of like videos but also then movie wise I went to the store and I bought rush hour and dude where's my car that's where my head was going into undergrad um well awesome those are great picks and then finally is there are there any movies that you've seen recently they don't have to be recent movies um that you would recommend for the listeners does it have to be movie can i do tv oh yeah go for it um so right now i'm watching it's on pbs masterpiece app or whatever but i've been watching um a

Speaker: show called miss scarlet and the duke and then later it just becomes miss scarlet because apparently the duke leaves the show i've not gotten to that part yet but it's a victorian era um mystery series where miss eliza scarlet is the first um female private detective in london um so that's been kind of fun and you love a good mystery I do. i do love a mystery because the other one I was going to say is I recently watched the new season of Lincoln Lawyer. And that was really good.

Speaker: Yeah, I agree. I watched that as well. Nice. So you're just you've been TV in it up. I have because I also watched Bridgerton, which I loved, but I don't know that that's really the vibe for your podcast. Look, look, look, we're not discriminating on here, okay? We want a wide range of listeners with a wide range of perspectives, and so it's totally fine.

Speaker: Well, cool. I have some wrecks as well. When you brought up TV shows, I'm just going to stick with what I originally was going to say, because otherwise I'll go off on a tangent. ah Well, actually, I will.

Speaker: I'll go off on a little tangent. So for one thing, on on Friday – so I'll just go ahead and tell people. You've seen it. You've already had to click on this episode. This episode, we're going to be talking about The Heat. Yeah. And so on Friday, we went to the retro film series, shout out retro film series, to see Miss Congeniality. So we're having a real a real Sandy Bullock weekend over here. But so we went to see Miss Congeniality. I'd never seen it.

Speaker: And I really liked that movie. you had You had told me you thought I would like it. And we went to see it. And I really did like it. Yeah, there were a couple moments where you like legitimately laughed out loud and I was very funny.

Speaker: It was very funny. Also, it had one of my favorite actors. Michael Kine was in the movie. And um Ernie. What's his name? Oh, yeah. e Ernie Hudson. Yeah. Yeah. He's a Ghostbuster. He's a Ghostbuster. I met him once. He was a very nice guy. Yeah.

Speaker: What's-his-name is going to be a theme of this podcast where that's fine I don't know any of the actors' names. It's no problem. Well, how about another theme is I'm going to switch back and forth between calling people by their character name and their actor name, and that's just yeah is what it is. ah So anyway, so that's one recommendation. I really like to miss congeniality. But um so – I will say the ones I had intended to plug. ah Everybody, if you haven't already, you need to go to Netflix and you need to watch the movie The Rip. It was so good. It was a great way to start my year off The Rip. It's on Netflix. It's got Ben Affleck. It's got Damon Williams. Matt Damon. Matt Damon.

Speaker: ah So it's it's got Matt Damon. I wish you had Damon Wayans also. That would be great. It's and been at like a met Damon and and a lot of other people. And it's just a really suspenseful, great film that I loved. We went to see Crime 101 in the theater, and I really, really enjoyed Crime 101 as well. So that's another one I would really recommend people check out. It felt like if they took – Grand Theft Auto 5 or maybe Grand Theft Auto Online. And somebody was just like, let's make this into a movie, but take out all the goofiness and just make it a straight crime thriller. It was really good. And then the other thing I'm going to recommend, just because we did ah this weekend lose the great Chuck Norris. And so I am going to recommend to everyone my personal favorite Chuck Norris film, which is Code of Silence. I think everybody should just watch whatever Chuck Norris film speaks to your heart in tribute. But I'm putting out Code of Silence. Same director who would later do Under Siege and um The Fugitive. i almost want to say Witness every time. The Fugitive. And just stay a really...

Speaker: A great film. Also an early appearance from ah Dennis Farina. Just ah a great movie, I think. a Great score by David Michael Frank. So anyways, check out Code of Silence. All right. So we are going to take just a tiny little break, and we're going to come back on the other side of that break, and we're going to be talking about The Heat.

Speaker: Sir, I don't understand. I've closed more cases than any agent here. You are a solid agent, but you're not a team player. None of the other agents like you. for my

Speaker: You got a situation in Boston. I'm sending you out. FBI, we recently got intel that you brought in a dealer, Terrell Ross. Hey, look who's here. Detective Mullins isn't back for lunch yet. I'm sure he won't mind. Well, he's she.

Speaker: I'm Special Agent Sarah Ashburn. Are you about to be interrogated by an officer? I am an officer, and that's my perp. Could you just close the door on the way out? I'll shut the door on you. Will you lay down here, and put your head in the door, and I'll slam it about 157,000 times. Aw, girl, you better run.

Speaker: I'm gonna make you bend over, and I'm gonna reach up to your pocket and get the keys to your house. And then I'm gonna drive there and stab you with your own badge. That's what I'm gonna do.

Speaker: Let's loosen that up.

Speaker: Surprise! Oh man! Get out, bull in China shop! What part out do you not understand? wanna go out? We'll take you out. I can't hold you! All right, let's pull him up. Come on. No wait, I'm not kidding anymore.

Speaker: I really, I can't lift him up. He's all right, right? the The metal car broke his fault?

Speaker: That was pretty awesome.

Speaker: You are killing us out there. You don't fit in. i am a federal agent. What are those? They're Spanx. They're Spanx. They just hold everything together. Why? What's going to come popping out?

Speaker: All right, we are back. And tonight we are talking about the 2013 action comedy classic, The Heat. um This movie was, let's see, it was directed by Paul. I never know if you pronounce it Feig or Feig.

Speaker: I'm saying Paul Feig. I think that's how you're supposed to do it. He's a very dapper man, always wearing a suit. Paul Feig. He was the director. The score was done by a composer that I'm not super familiar with named Michael Andrews. I did look him up and he had done a lot of films, actually, including Donnie Darko, Out Cold. ah Probably most apropos of tonight, he worked on Bridesmaids and also the movie Neighbors. It was written by Kate Dippold, who um was also a writer on Parks and Recreation.

Speaker: um it scores everyone It stars It stars Sandra Bullock, Melissa McCarthy, Marlon Wayans, Michael Rapoport, Taryn Killam, Jane Curtin. Michael McDonald, not the singer, the guy who played Stewart on MADtv, Tom Wilson, Chris Gethard and like a thousand more people like when they go to the the family dinner scene, which I'm sure we'll talk about later, just like there's just like a billion people at the table and you're like oh it's that guy's that guy. Yeah. So when I was watching this, I just like made a list of people.

Speaker: Because it's like one of those movies, for me anyway, where like you recognize the actor, but you like don't really they they may not be like a big name actor. Right. But they've yeah been in stuff that you know them from. And so my list is like B from Always Sunny in Philadelphia. Yeah. Because I don't know her name. It's Caitlin Olsen.

Speaker: Yeah. uh did you notice that there was a new kid on the block at the dinner table for them of course the first do you not remember the first time we watched it and i went is that joey mcintyre and you were like who's joey mcintyre yeah yeah i did not know who it was uh i know only one i know one new kid on the block and his name is donald walberg walberg Um, so yeah. So yeah, it starts everyone. And, uh, Bill Burr, I left out Bill Burr. Uh, he was one of the brothers. Yep. It was the third brother was in an episode of new girl.

Speaker: Oh, and you're a arrested. New girl expert. Uh, apparently he was, he was in the episode where Jess is like teaching in college and they are like writing stories and he writes this story and they think she, that he's going to murder her.

Speaker: Oh, my. You don't remember this one? No, I've only I really liked that show, but I watched like the first few seasons a long time ago and I don't remember a lot about it. Well, so, yeah, shenanigans ensue as they do on that show. So.

Speaker: Awesome. um And this movie was released on June the 28th, 2013. It had a budget of $43 million dollars and its box office, it brought in a whopping $229.9 million. dollars So this movie definitely made its money back and made a great profit of many millions. That's so interesting because I don't feel like it's...

Speaker: super well known necessarily. Yeah, it's weird. Well, I think maybe, and we can maybe get into this, but I think maybe it might get a little overshadowed by um the success just previous of Bridesmaids, maybe. um But yeah, but so it was a big success and it has a Rotten Tomatoes ah critic score of 66% and a 71% audience score. So I'm just going to go ahead and tell you listeners at home how I feel about the movie. I think those both those scores are way too low. I think this is a a great movie. But before we get into our thoughts on the movie, let me just real quickly, if I can get some good light here, read the brief plot description from the back of my Blu-ray. Okay.

Speaker: Oscar winner Sandra Bullock and Oscar nominee Melissa McCarthy are a dynamite duo in this outrageously funny comedy from the director of Bridesmaids, Paul Feig. Uptight FBI special agent Sarah Ashburn, played by Sandra Bullock, and foul-mouthed Boston cop Shannon Mullins, played by Melissa McCarthy, couldn't be more incompatible. But when they join forces to bring down a ruthless drug lord, they become the last thing anyone expected.

Speaker: Dot, dot, dot. Buddies. so So perfect. Yeah, it's so perfect. um Especially for anybody following along, the original name of this podcast was going to be Hey Buddy. So we we love some buddies on here. So, Crystal, I have a little history with this film. But remind me, what is your history with this film? Had you seen it before? What's your history with this movie?

Speaker: I had seen it before. I think I may have seen it in the theater when it came out um because I do love Sandra Bullock. I also really like Melissa McCarthy. I first knew of Melissa McCarthy from watching Gilmore Girls. And so she was,

Speaker: um i don't know, but well known to me, I guess, when this movie came out. But I feel like this movie for her is like in her era of when she first became like got her big break, I feel like in bridesmaids, both that character and then this character, they're like gross versions of her. And i was like, I just always thought that was kind of strange um because that's not how she was in Gilmore girls, but she was always very funny.

Speaker: So I've not seen Gilmore Girls, and I've – confession, I've not seen Bridesmaids. I know I probably should because everyone says it's really good, and I really did enjoy this movie. It really good. I think at the time – I hate to, like, tattle on myself, but, I mean, anybody who's heard me on this podcast talk about how much I love things blowing up and people getting kicked in the face, this probably won't surprise them. I feel like when it came out, I was like, that's a girl movie, and so I didn't go see it. But it's supposed to be a really good movie, and I think now – Being grown up and mature, I i think I would enjoy it. um So my history with this movie is i I did also see it in the theater. And at the time, I remember thinking it was just it was fine.

Speaker: It was just fine. I didn't really have like a huge it didn't make a big impact. And so knew i was going to do it for this podcast. and this is something we can get into a little later because there are this is not the only one, but there are relatively few buddy cop films that really ah represent like have female representation. Right. In the leads. And so I knew that I wanted to do this movie as as part of the podcast. So anyways, this was the episode we were going to do back in November. So you and i got together and watched it back in November. Yeah. And I laughed uproariously. The whole time. And I wasn't expecting because I remember just kind of thinking like, this is fine. But I laughed so hard the whole time. I don't know if it was just a great company or if it's like I said, I have i have matured as a film watcher. I don't know if somehow- It's also just legitimately very funny. Yeah, I don't know if... like Maybe it's because I watched the unrated version instead of the theatrical, which today I noticed is only about three minutes difference anyway. ah I'm assuming just some of the really crass stuff they had to cut out for the theater because this movie is crass. I know. That was one of the things I was kind of like surprised about, even watching it the second time because I watched it again earlier this week since it had been so long since we'd seen it back in November.

Speaker: And I was like, man, i just... ah just It just surprises me sometimes, like how crass it is. i don't I don't want to be like a pearl clutching podcast where I'm like... oh No, no. It's unexpected. Oh, no. But what I was going to say was it makes it hard to... um It makes it hard, I think, for me to ah talk about some of my favorite lines because I do try to keep this podcast somewhere around PG-13. It's okay to say some swear words every now and again, but I'm not trying to just be like a constant bleep factory. So it does make it hard to I feel like my favorite lines do not have cursing in them. Well, once again, as we've discussed, you're a much more highbrow and culture than I am. Cause someone, one of my favorite lines, we'll get to this later. One of my favorite lines in my notes, I don't like taking notes. We were some, when I was, when I'm watching movies, I'm trying to watch a and have a good time, but I did take a few. And one, I just wanted to remember a line and we'll talk about this later. So I'll just set it up for you right now. My note says toilet humans. So,

Speaker: but so so that's not let sure what that means toilet humans well we'll get there and if we don't get there then the listeners will be like he never addressed toilet humans and that'll be fine with me um all right so that's my history with the movie though like i've now seen it three times once in the theater when i thought it was just fine uh once when we watched it back in november when i laughed uproariously and thought i was gonna roll off the couch and then watching it by myself um i laughed a lot out loud by myself Me too. I just think it's really funny. i think that Sandra Bullock, as we talked about the other day, is ah is a really likable and great actress. And she is perfectly cast as the as the the kind of the straight man, if you will, in this comedy duo. And I just think that Melissa McCarthy is really funny. She really delivers her. I was looking at her filmography, and I'll tell you, I've not seen a lot of her movies.

Speaker: And maybe I should. Like i i saw I've seen this one and I've seen the Ghostbusters like that. I guess you call it remake, which you didn't really like. Well, I feel like that movie is a little contentious. And once again, we'll get into this. i I definitely didn't want to be seen as one of those dudes who didn't like that movie. I feel like at the time there was ah i feel like at the time there were a lot of like Internet misogynists. Like I know it'll surprise everyone to know that like nerds are. I don't feel like you didn't like it.

Speaker: I didn't, but I tried really hard at the time to not be one of those people who was like, no, I don't like this. These ladies. Um, but at the same time, I thought the movie was, I thought the Ghostbusters remake was just fine.

Speaker: It was just fine, which as I've said, I thought that about this movie. So maybe i need to go back and rewatch it. Uh, but, uh, as of now, I, I thought it was, it was okay, but it wasn't great. Um,

Speaker: Yeah, so that's our history with the movie. Well, I think we've just already started the next thing I was going to talk about, which is what did you think of this film overall? I really enjoyed this film. um

Speaker: Like I said, there were several moments where I just like laughed out loud alone in my house watching it, which is kind of my favorite thing. Yeah.

Speaker: Yeah, it made me really laugh out loud. But also, um so it's extremely funny. um and But also it's just, I just think it's a really good movie. I think that the actors turn in some great performances. I was really impressed by the... um The back and forth, kind of the chemistry between the two leads. I think that's what makes a buddy cop movie typically. mean, because you have to kind of put yourself in a world where like I'm a huge, as you know, and this comes a surprise to you, but I'm a huge like law and order fan. I love police procedurals. A lot of the books I read are going be police procedurals, even though I just picked up that hard ticket to Hawaii novelization. And I tell you what. Yeah.

Speaker: excited about that possibly being in my summer read um but so i i like a lot of uh police procedures and so when you watch a movie like this and really a lot of buddy cop movies you kind of have to like get out of that mindset like you're not living in the real world they're not following the laws they're not following bla proper police procedures that was one the things that i noted early on i was like because i've been listening to a lot of small town dicks podcast which is real detectives talking about like solving their crimes and they were multiple times where I was like, no, that would not work. These cases are getting thrown out of court for sure. yeah But, but i think that a buddy cop movie, you have to suspend your, your disbelief or whatever a little bit, but they, they really rely on, on the chemistry between the leads. And I think that this was really well done. Um, according to, i got a little mixed messaging when I was researching for this, because one place kind of made out like at first, there were some problems with, um,

Speaker: you know, contracts. And so it took a while to get the lead actors like on board. But then when I was watching some of the special features or maybe it was, no, I think I was reading, I read some interviews with Kate Dippold, the writer. And she was talking about how actually it was presented to her. She had this like spec script.

Speaker: She wasn't sure who was going star in it. And somebody told her they were like, well, actually Melissa McCarthy and Sandra Bullock are are looking to do a movie together. So we should approach them to do this. So, you know, Yeah, I actually looked up Melissa McCarthy's um like film.

Speaker: What do you call that? Her filmography. Filmography. Yes, thank you. um Because in my mind, she was in the Ocean's 8 movie with Sandra Bullock, but she's not. Well, I did like that movie.

Speaker: I like that movie. Yeah. i feel like she would have been good in that movie. She would have been good in that movie. Yeah. she would have been good in the movie. i don't remember if that... I guess that movie is kind of more... it's It's more action than comedy, right?

Speaker: I mean, I know it's funny in a way. but It's kind of like the George Clooney ones were where there's like funny moments, but it's really more about like the heist, right? Well, as you know, Crystal, my big familiarity with Ocean's Eleven is through the original with the Rat Pack. Oh my gosh. As you know, you're not the only one who likes the classics. I've learned never seen that one. Well, you really need to.

Speaker: You know, I own an embarrassing amount of like copies of that movie. like Over the course of time, I would like upgrade whenever a new version would come out. And so I just have like i know that'll come that'll come as a shock to you. But you know what's funny? is they're almost all on DVD for some reason. and I think maybe one them on Blu-ray. It's not like some movies where I have like the VHS, the DVD, the Blu-ray. like These are just different DVDs. I think I've given some of them away over the course of time because I was like, I don't really need all these Ocean's Eleven DVDs. But anyways, um what was I saying? Oh yeah, just so we both really like this movie. And I'm glad. I i just thought it was And what I was going to say was, I think...

Speaker: As someone who's seen a pretty good amount of buddy cop movies, I think it's just a really good buddy cop movie. Like it's a really good example of the genre, um which i I just I don't know. Obviously, that's a little special to me. And I just I just really enjoyed it. So enough of that fanning out. So the first question that I think is is pretty reasonable to ask about anybody cop film is what do we think of our two main characters, Ashburn and Mullins? Once again, we've we've kind of been talking about that a little bit already, but let's talk a little bit about the characters and kind of what we thought about them. What were some of your thoughts about Ashburn and Mullins, a.k.a. Sandy Bullock and Melissa McCarthy? Yeah. So when the movie first starts and Sandy Bullock, like, so she's the FBI agent, right? And she, they,

Speaker: are on like the SWAT teams coming out and they're like doing this bust. And she is so annoying in that scene. all that And I was like, wow, I kind of hate her a little bit, like just a little bit.

Speaker: um But then i don't know. She comes around and she's not as bad going through the rest of the movie. But I didn't, I did find that interesting that I was like, just, She was just ah under my skin at the start of it. Well, and I think that is I think that is an an instance of Sandra Bullock being really a great actress, because um I think that's the intention. And she does a really good job. Like she is arrogant.

Speaker: Yeah. I like that you said she's under your skin because she's under all the other FBI agents. yeah Like there's so much like visible eye rolling and like they just you can tell they all just cannot stand her. And it's because she is just so.

Speaker: arrogant and like, and so confident. Cause you had mentioned on Friday that Miss congeniality reminded you a little bit of this. And I was like, I feel like they're very different characters. Like she's so arrogant in this movie and like her FBI character in Miss congeniality is um like, she hits it off her boss because of a decision that she makes, but her, her other like agents that she's around,

Speaker: There's more camaraderie. They don't like hate her guts. Yeah. Well, I was actually don't worry. I was going to come clean. I was going to say, OK, upon watching this, I I recalled that exchange from Friday and I was going to tell you that you were in fact right. They are very different characters. They are very different characters, ah but they're both FBI agents.

Speaker: Okay, they're both agents. They They're definitely both FBI agents. She loves to play FBI agents. But yeah, i she's more of kind of a a slob, tomboy type. ah In some ways, like a less rude version of the of the character type that Melissa McCarthy's playing in this movie. ah but But she's also good at her job. She's just under-recognized in Miss Congeniality. Whereas in this one, she's recognized, but people don't like her.

Speaker: They're like, we just yeah know, but no one likes you. Yeah. Well, I feel like Melissa McCarthy's character is a little bit the same way, yeah but for totally different reasons. My description, I said that Ashburn is arrogant and initially very unlikable. Mullins is brash and mean slash rude. She's just very rude. And I mean, once again, she's not arrogant like that. But man, there are just moments where you're like,

Speaker: dang she is really rude to people and she doesn't that part she doesn't get better like i can't remember when it is but there's a part at the end i tell you it's towards the end of the movie somebody's walking i think it's when they're in the hospital actually not to skip too far ahead but when it's when her her brother gets shot and she's in the hospital and she's like walking out she's like i'm gonna go catch the bad guy and a nurse comes up and she's got a cup of water and she just slaps the cup of water out of her I was like, dang. They're really mean to that nurse. There's that one like blind headed nurse and they're terrible. So that's that's Kate Dippold. That's the writer of the film. Oh, really? The blonde ER nurse. Yeah, she's she's kate she wrote the film.

Speaker: um So she asked for it in her own writing. um But yeah, so ah but but then my thought was and this is what I liked. I think that these characters are.

Speaker: So you don't have to give in a comedy if you just want to be funny and say outrageous things, you don't have to give the characters a lot of depth. But what i I think made these characters likable because you have to like the characters eventually. I mean, yeah, you can maybe try to make a movie where we don't come to like them, but it's going to be tough. And I think what happened and you said that about about Ashburn becoming more like was moving along to me.

Speaker: she kind of reveals to us through that whole bar room drunken scene, kind of that her arrogance comes from her insecurities, right? She's very insecure about her life and how her life has been. She had, you know, she grew up in foster homes and she never really felt like she belonged. And so her, her insecurities are the reason why she acts that way. And I think that makes her, um, I think that's the thing that makes her relatable to us.

Speaker: Plus, she grows as a character ah you know through her relationship with with Mullins. ah And to me, I'll tell you this. i don't know what you thought about this. I think that one of the things that most impressed me about the writing of this movie was the the angle with Mullins' brother. um So Mullins has this brother. I didn't actually write down the brother's name. Jason. The brother's name is Jason. And he's played by Michael Rappaport. And he is like – he has been – a ah drug addict and all this stuff. And she, she actually, we find out is the one who arrested him. When we meet him, he's in on his last day in prison. She's the one who arrested him. And so her family's all mad at her because she arrested her own brother. ah and but what we find out and she has some really like emotional, like acting moments.

Speaker: And what we find out is that even though she is the one who arrested her brother, she was doing it because she was trying to get him away from the crowd he was running with, trying to help him get clean, which Sandra Bullock is like, you know, actually a lot of people who go to prison, it's when they get addicted to drugs. It's like this really funny moment where she's like, is that what you want to be saying to me right now? It's really funny.

Speaker: ah But so anyways, I just found a lot of the stuff with her brother and like she's really concerned about her brother and she's trying to. ah you know, get her brother away from these bad guys. And she's the whole movie. She's very protective of her brother. And I just I felt that that added a a little bit of emotional depth that maybe you might not ah expect from a movie like this that really added a lot to that character, in my opinion.

Speaker: Yeah, I think so. her the All the family dynamics with her are just kind of funny. Oh, yeah. So there's a commentary track on the Blu-ray that is the Mullins family talking about the movie. so like I didn't listen to it, but it says the Mullins family, so I'm assuming they're in character. So apparently they were they were a big hit. Actually, not to once again skip ahead in the notes, but whatever. ah There was a a plan initially to do a sequel to this movie, which got which fell through. but then But then they were apparently going to do a spinoff with the two...

Speaker: um Brothers? No. With Gina. Oh, the girlfriends? Yeah, the girlfriends. Yeah, I don't remember Gina, and there was another one. But ah but the two girlfriends, they were going to get their own spinoff. And I was like, oh, is that still happening? But I looked it up, and the last thing I saw about it was from 2013. So I'm assuming that that hasn't happened. But yeah, so that's that's kind of what I think um makes them, even though they're there they have their personality flaws. Also, I should say, one thing I wanted say about this movie is that...

Speaker: A lot of the movies I've talked about on this podcast, especially ones that were like earlier in the 80s and kind of when it was first starting, they they didn't necessarily know they were doing a quote unquote buddy cop movie. I know Mo and I talked about this when we talked about 48 Hours. Like when they made 48 Hours, they didn't know they were doing a buddy cop movie.

Speaker: This movie, they did know they were doing a buddy cop movie. Yeah. Kate DePold talked about intentionally being really influenced by a lot of buddy cop films. She had talked about, you know, she said, i wrote a few things here. She said, ah I've seen Lethal Weapon now about 2000 times. Running Scared and 48 Hours were big ones for me. So those are all great buddy cop movies I recommend people check out Lethal Weapon, Running Scared, 48 Hours. i was pretty was I liked that. I liked hearing that she was influenced by it. So she was influenced by the genre. So the characters really...

Speaker: like I said, pretty intentionally fit the archetype. You have the uptight, plays by the rules, stick in the mud, played by Sandra Bullock, and you have the like slovenly rogue cop, always in trouble with the brass, ah foul mouth, you know, cop played by Melissa McCarthy. So I like that, but I just think that the two actresses I just, I felt like their performance, there they had a really great sense of comic timing. Melissa McCarthy in particular, but actually Sandra Bullock too, ah seemed to really be able to improvise. There was a lot of improvisation apparently that went on behind the scenes and and that made it onto camera. And I just, I was impressed by them. And I think that's what helped them rise above their, they're just being an archetype.

Speaker: I feel like Melissa McCarthy, I feel like almost... Everything she said had to have been improvised. Like it just it just I don't know. I feel like a lot of her lines are just if you're not paying attention, you might miss it.

Speaker: Like the way she delivers it. And it's hilarious. Well, it's it's rapid fire and it's almost under her breath to the point where I was right. And what i was trying to think about all the funny things she said. and I was like, there's no I'd have to see this movie so many more times before I could remember every hilarious early on.

Speaker: She calls Sandra Bullock an angel of the law. I lost my mind. That was so funny. It was like early. um And she was talking about. when it is yeah I think it was like right after they're interviewing the. Isn't when in the jar It's when they're in the bar and she's trying to like suck up to her so she can like steal her. Steal the file. Yeah. Steal the file. um Yeah. She says you're an angel of the law. Just was like.

Speaker: That is so funny. Yeah, so I really like that. And I do think once again, i guess I'll just talk about it over and over again, but I just thought that both these these people like... they They fit their roles, but also I think the vulnerability of the characters, both of them have moments where they're pretty vulnerable, really just kind of helped them. they they were They didn't just feel like archetypes to me. Like when it first starts, you're like, oh, okay, we got the straight man, we got the the slovenly rogue cop, but they they they were those archetypes, but I just feel like they kind of were were more than just that. Well, they give each other like a little bit of a hard time, but actually once they decide they're going to start working together, they they they don't really have too much

Speaker: I mean, they kind of have verbal friction, but like, I think what I'm trying to say is they're both pretty good at like letting the other one do whatever they're going to do. And then they're like, okay, now it's my turn to do what I'm going to do.

Speaker: Yeah, definitely. Like they, they do that, but, and they say slowly learn to work together. It does the thing, which I think helps where like, we see their relationship develop. Like, you know, that when they start out, they can't stand each other. i mean, you know, there's the really funny scene where, where Melissa McCarthy is trying to park and she and Sandra Bullock just like obliviously steals her parking spot. I don't know. I feel like it's a really relatable moment because everybody's had some person just be a jerk with traffic and like just be oblivious to it. And you're so mad. And she's so mad. And she also she is eating a pepper in the car like ah either. See, that's like red pepper.

Speaker: That's so funny. And so then she has to go park her car and she parks between these squad cars and they're so tightly parked that she's like having to crawl through the windows and she finally gets in. So she like hates this person by the time she gets there. And Sandra Bullock in her arrogant, you know, she doesn't even know she's going to walk in and see Sandra Bullock interviewing her prisoner. Sandra Bullock's like, did we meet? Yeah.

Speaker: and Really funny. ah So I just, I loved all that. Another thing that's funny is, so when Melissa McCarthy's walking in, she ah busts the side mirror on Sandra Bullock's car. And in one of the special features, they, on the the Blu-ray, they showed that like a props guy just like found a couple pieces of junk on the street.

Speaker: And, and they, and they were trying to figure out what to use. And Paul Feig was like, well, let's use this thing because you it actually was just a piece of junk found on the street. And so she, but she picked it up and broke the the, the side mirror out with that. Um, so yeah, I, I really liked, I really liked that. Like there, so now here's the thing. And and the real reason that I, I'm so happy to have a female perspective on this episode, because we, when we're talking about this movie, we're obviously going to have to discuss, um, the role that gender plays in this movie and also, um, plays in the the really action films, buddy cop films, uh, in general. And I feel like it's hard for me as like, uh, you know, just a dude to like, to sometimes talk about it without getting a female perspective. It wouldn't have been quite the same if I just had a couple of dudes on here talking about it. As we've said, this movie is kind of a standout in the buddy cop genre because it does, it it features two female leads, which is pretty rare in the buddy cop genre. So I just was curious to get your initial thoughts on kind of the,

Speaker: Any of that on the the, you know, having the female leads and, and how you thought it affected the film and how it fits into to the overall film genre. I guess just my thought is like, if anything, it proves that like, there's no reason that two women can't be the leads. Like this was a super successful film.

Speaker: We both enjoyed it. Like it holds up like, Are there any buddy cop films that have like a male female lead or is it the ones with females? Are they just female female?

Speaker: Well, actually, that's a great question. um i think it depends on how how far you're willing to go to define like I in order to make utopia one, I guess you could call that's a male female. Yeah. In order to make room on this podcast, I've decided I'm going to play a little fast and loose with the rules. So like the first one that comes to my mind is a movie that I really love called Martial Law. ah It's an action movie starring Chad McQueen and Cynthia Rothrock.

Speaker: um It's probably not really ah what you'd call a traditional buddy cop movie, to be honest, but that was the first one that came to my mind. um I'm mostly putting it in because it kind of works and because I love that movie and I want to talk about it at some point on the podcast. I guess if you're talking about like buddy cop films, there's this like policing.

Speaker: Like undertone, right. Or overtone, if you want to call it. And so, yeah. In real life, there are a lot more male police officers than there are female police officers. So it's not a surprise that it's like more dominated by men.

Speaker: Well, actually, that's kind of interesting to me because I hadn't considered it from like a real life policing aspect. So i I think that's true. But also, ah honestly, i think that in the 80s, when the buddy cop genre first kind of started, I mean, there were some before, but there were probably definitely a lot more male cops than female yeah cops. i Oh, hey, how how about maybe I still am not sure if this counts as a buddy cop movie, but what about RoboCop with ah with.

Speaker: I don't think that counts. You don't think Robocop counts the buddy cop movie? I don't know. I think I'm pretty strongly on the side of buddy cop, uh, movie for, for, for, uh, for that movie Murphy. And is her, is her name Nichols? I don't know. All I know Murphy. I can't remember her name. Um, but anyways, um,

Speaker: But so anyways, that's male and female pairing. um But so, but anyways, in the eighties, there were definitely way more male cops. And I think over the course of time, there are more and more female police officers. And so maybe that's why you, you know, you can have a movie like this more than maybe would have been accepted at the time. um What I was going to say was one thing that I really liked about this movie, and this is where I like, I don't want to like step in it, but I, I don't like when movies feel gimmicky or kind of like,

Speaker: Like they're throwing the message in your face a little bit. There are movies that I think have tried to kind of do a girl power thing that it it almost feels like the point is no longer making a good movie, but the point yeah is making a point. i don't want to throw too many out, but I mean, you know, that it's it's.

Speaker: I kind of felt like having a – I kind of felt like that was almost a little gimmicky in the in the Ghostbusters remake. um you know i thought it would have been better to have like a mixed gender team or whatever. It's not a huge deal, but I thought it was a little gimmicky, and and there's been a few other movies. But then there are movies like um the Mad Max movie –

Speaker: Furiosa? The one before Furiosa, but the one that Furiosa was in. What was that movie called? was the fourth Mad Max movie. I can't remember. don't know. Was it just called Mad Max? I don't know. Anyways, I really liked that movie. But the Furiosa character impressed me because she was a standout character. She ended up getting her own film. Female, strong female character. But it was just like she just it wasn't like, see, even girls can. It was just like she was just there. She was just part of it. And I was really like this movie definitely does that. Like, it's just. Yeah.

Speaker: Yeah. You know, there's these two cops are good at their jobs and they're women, which is I feel like how women operate in the world. Like we're not we're just we're just people out there doing what we're doing like and, you know, we're good at that.

Speaker: Just like dudes are good at what they do. And that's what I really, really struck me about this movie. So like when you start reading about this movie and when you read the interviews with the filmmakers, Paul Feig, Kate Dippold, all of them would talk about the gender thing. I mean, it was there. It was a big deal to be making a female fronted buddy cop action comedy. It just was. So it's going to be part of the conversation. But I really liked it. Like it really didn't feel gimmicky. There are times when they discuss being women in in a male dominated field and You know, there are times when they talk about that. There are times when they make very specific, you know, female humor. um But but it's but it feels the same way as it would if like a dude was just was making like a dick joke. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, it just feels like. Yeah, it's just like two friends having a conversation. Right. Like, yeah.

Speaker: Yeah. And I just was really impressed by that. and At no point did this movie feel gimmicky to me. And I just really liked that. And so a couple of things I wrote down about this. So for one thing, I wrote down just a little bit about Kate Dippold talking about how she was inspired to write this movie. And she was she's talking about buddy cop movies here. She said, I always loved them growing up. I have such an early memory of watching Running Scared And I feel like with every buddy cop movie, there was always this great bond between the two cops. They were really funny and there was great banter and they were so cool, just awesome, running around taking down some drug lord. And I always wanted to do that. In Running Scared, they go down to the Caribbean and there's this montage of them on scooters. And there's a different hot girl on the back every time it cuts to the scooter. Yeah.

Speaker: And it just and it just felt like I don't want to be the girl on the back of the scooter. I want to be the awesome cop doing this stuff. And I really thought that was cool. Like, I thought that was just interesting. She's like her point is like, yeah, like ladies should be able to see themselves represented in in these roles. But it but it wasn't like it was just because why not?

Speaker: You know, ah Melissa McCarthy was talking about kind of like. quote unquote girl humor. And she said, I just think funny is funny. There's no such thing as girl funny or guy funny. You just want the movie to just be a funny movie. And I liked that. And then another thing I wrote that Paul Feig said, he said, ah what I liked about this one. Now, obviously he's had a lot to do with bringing ladies to the the forefront of you know comedy at that time with things like Bridesmaids, which was a huge smash hit. But he said, he said, what I liked about this one, Was that it didn't have any of that. He's talking about some of the things that other ah like romantic female led movies might have. He said it's just two professional women in the workforce who are great at their jobs and who are on this adventure.

Speaker: I don't know. So all those things together just kind of summed up better than ah than I think I'm doing of how I felt about this movie. Like, I just think it was great. To have um a female fronted buddy cop film, but just to be like, almost like it was just always there. Like, why not do it? You know what i mean? Like, it was like, yeah it know it felt like it was just like, yeah, sure. This is a natural thing to do. And I like that.

Speaker: But the way I wrote it out for me, my own personal thoughts about it was I said, um you know, the the gender thing is definitely important. And you have to bring up that, you know, it's ah it's great to have representation. And I think it's really important to the to the genre. But if you end up focusing too much on, hey, there's girl leads in this, what you lose sight of the fact is that it's just a really great, funny movie. And it stands on its own without any of that. Like if that wasn't even a big deal, this would be a great film. It's just funny because like I was completely unprepared for you to ask me that question.

Speaker: I was like, oh, I don't even have any thoughts about it. Like, it's just a movie. Like, it's ah just a buddy cop movie. Like, it didn't really occur to me to, like, have special thoughts about it because it had two ladies in it.

Speaker: Honestly, I think that's great. I think for me, it's just like maybe because I've been trying to prep, you know, for for this and to like talk about the history of the genre. And it's just there's just so few um female led films in those. Yeah, I mean, that's true.

Speaker: It's true. And this isn't the only one I did make a note. You know, there's a movie called Feds starring Rebecca DeMornay and Mary Gross that came out in the 80s. There are some great Hong Kong films, whether or not you want to count them as buddy cop films. I don't know. Michelle Yeoh. with Michelle Yeoh and Cynthia Rothrock. So there are some great... want to that. That sounds fun.

Speaker: Hey, I know a guy who has them all. So anyways... Actually, the only movie I've ever seen with Cynthia Rothrock is The Last Kumite, which I feel like she was barely in. Really?

Speaker: Yeah, I guess so. Because, you know, I know. So like in my mind we had, but then I remembered it was some a huge listeners. I'm a huge Don the Dragon Wilson fan. We were we watched Red Sun Rising, but she's not in that. Somehow my mind she was. And then I was like, wait, no, she's not. Yeah.

Speaker: But yeah, so I thought that was – so so there's those, those – and then also Miss Congeniality 2, which has been – That's part of why we had to go to the movie on Friday because we were laying the groundwork. Laying the groundwork. For Miss Congeniality. Also in my notes ah in my notes, I was trying to write Michelle Yeoh to talk about that, and I wrote, Michelle-O Yeoh.

Speaker: So that's what I – michelo yo is in these movies uh and another thing that i just wanted to point out is kate dipold said that one of the things she wanted to do in this uh was just have a movie about female camaraderie uh you know it's a a movie just about female friendship it's not about you know like a romance angle or any of that stuff it's yeah just it's just i was actually female friendship thinking about it and i was like there's not any real of a romantic anything i mean i guess her brothers have their girlfriends like Gina and whatever the other girl's name. Well, when I was Gina, we found out that Mullins has, hat has, has, oh blazed trail she's, she's blazed quite a trail across. That's true. Cause the guy who played David Wallace on the office is like in the early part, they like encounter him on the street and he's like, hey we had such a great time. And she's like, yeah get away from me.

Speaker: And then later in the bar. So when the guy talks to her in the bar, that's actually her husband in real life. And yeah you told me that the first time. That's how knew that. always in her movies. He always makes like a cameo in her movies.

Speaker: I really loved that. I thought that whole exchange was really funny when he comes up to her and she's like, oh, great. And she's like, it's not you. It's me. I need to work on myself. How can I be part of two until I'm a better one? Like just the whole thing like was so funny to me. And then he goes, and then she grabs his face and makes out with him super hard. And she's like, I'm being completely clear. Yeah.

Speaker: like yeah right she's like yeah I don't know. I just thought that was yet another like really funny exchange from her and just delivered. So this her being like, I can't be part of two until I'm a better one. like it was really good.

Speaker: Uh, so yeah, so that's enough about the gender, the gender stuff. I just wanted to bring it up and I wanted to get a female perspective on that. Cause I'd wanted to talk about this movie and it's, it's kind of place, uh, in the sub genre for that, but I didn't just want to have like me and one of my guy friends being like, yeah, it's cool. there's ladies in this. Uh, so, you know, um,

Speaker: So here's the thing, as I mentioned a minute ago, there was supposed to originally like almost immediately there was talk about um would there be a sequel to this? And Kate Dippold apparently had an idea. And in some of the interviews I read, she was like, I'm really excited about it, but I can't tell you what my idea is. But I really wanted to do it if this movie is success, which this movie was a success. But then for some reason that I didn't ever really see in my research, it just didn't happen.

Speaker: uh sandra bullock apparently one point confirmed that it was you know not really happening she wasn't involved and and so it just didn't happen and uh i just want to come out right now and say i really loved this movie i would love to see more of these characters i know it's i know it's been 13 years since they made the last one but hey they took a lot longer than that between the second and third bill and ted movies this podcast steakhouse and shakedowns is endorsing officially the heat too. I want to see it. I want to see that movie. Um, so, you know, Hey listeners, write your Congressman, you know what i mean? Um, so yeah, I just want to see that. Also, I wouldn't mind seeing the spinoff. Don't really know what that would have been about. Just the two girl, the two girlfriends of the brothers, but Hey, let feel like they were the most uninteresting part of this movie.

Speaker: That's funny. I think people thought they were pretty funny. Uh, Especially the scene when like Gina is coming out of her house to go to the. And her boobs are everywhere. Well, OK, but I mean, like, it's funny that she's like, you bought me this luggage, this rolly cart so I could carry my own luggage. And like, i don't know. she The credits, her boobs are in the credits. Yeah.

Speaker: Yeah, I know. i saw that part. I saw that part. But hey, it's better for you to bring it up than me. um So yeah but so who knows what that spinoff would have been about. But I'd love to see another movie with these um with these characters. The one that so before they go to pick her up and all the family is getting in the van and Joey McIntyre goes, we're going to Gina's. And I just thought that was so funny. Yeah, so you had mentioned that to me the other day, and so then when I was watching it, I caught that line as well. it funny everything i just Everything about this is is funny to me. ah Paul Feig was like, I really wanted to have all the people in the Mullins family be Boston natives so they can have like the right accent and everything. like The part where he's like, are you a knock? Are you a knock? And she's like, am I what? Are you?

Speaker: Or are you not Anak! Are you Anak? Am I speaking English? Like, it's just really, that part was all really funny to me. There's so many parts in that that I just thought funny. Also, all of the, like, velvet paintings of Jesus playing sports.

Speaker: Really funny. I loved when the dad was, like, so, Melissa McCarthy's like, Gina says something and she's like, who are you? And then the other girl's like, she's my best friend. And she's like, who are you? and like, just She had said something. Oh, man, where's my phone? I had met making my little notes on my phone. I think I had written down something about what she said right there. This is really good podcasting when you have to like look up what she said. While you're looking that up, I can tell you when we first meet Mullins' mother, she's driving her minivan. So they're like walking down the street and this minivan drives by and there's this woman in it and she's just like flipping them off.

Speaker: And... um Sandra Bullock's character is like, who is that? And Melissa McCarthy is like, oh, my mom. And she's just like, the way she delivers that line, it's like a little bit sad, and but like, really like, just like Like it's not even a big deal. it It's just like, oh, it's my mom.

Speaker: well i think that's what's so funny because it's Sandra Bullock doesn't know how to react to that. um So like I forgot he was. Oh, another thing I was going say at the dinner scene that was really funny to me is. ah So then the dad gets mad at Gina and he's like.

Speaker: She she wore sweatpants to your mom's dinner table. And like, I just thought that was really funny to me. And in the in in like one of the cut scenes, there's a there's a she goes, she goes, yeah, well, that's a compliment to her to her cooking. I didn't know how much room I was going to need to make or something like that.

Speaker: It was just funny to me. It's like, she wore sweatpants to your mother's dinner table. ah That scene was all really funny to me, which like, you know, I had sometimes the conversation about these movies can just go without plot by plot, bit by bit plot breakdowns. But I wasn't sure if this one would be like that or not, but we've mostly done topics. It's 45 minutes in to the discussion and we haven't really discussed the plot of this movie at all. So we can go through it real briefly. I don't think we need to like break it down too much. Um, But so, you know, the movie starts, um the movie starts with Sandra Bullock, as we said earlier, on a drug bus. I think that's the very first thing we see, right? Yeah, it is. She's like doing this drug bus. It's in like New York or something. She's in, well, she starts in New Jersey, I think.

Speaker: I don't know. Paul Feig said this movie was originally supposed to take place in New York City, and he just said it would be more fun to shoot in Boston because he likes the city. And he thought that like the people's attitudes and stuff would make up for some comedy, which obviously we got the Aiyu and Nyack Mullins family. So ah I think that worked out great. But so i I don't know. So I don't I don't remember where it was. Some of my mind it was New Jersey. Maybe it's New York. I don't know. But she she comes in and like she's as we said, she's like all the other feds can't stand her because she's just so overconfident and she's really good at her job.

Speaker: you know But she's like a showboat about it, yes which is what makes her annoying. But she does. She is really good at her job. She finds the drugs and the guns and all the stuff that all the other agents, including the drug dogs, had not found. oh you like that? Well, she just like disses the drug sniffing dogs. just It's so funny because the dogs like look sad. More than once she disses the drug sniffing dogs. Yeah. yeah The dogs look sad. And so the dogs.

Speaker: So then we find out, you know, that Sandra Bullock is trying to go, that Ashburn is trying to get this promotion. And her boss is like, yeah, you're a great agent, but just like, I don't know how you're going be a leader because nobody likes you. And then somehow he ends up assigning her to go to to go to Boston, guess, because they're trying to track down this Larkin. He's he's like, he's like, he's He's like the top dog in the the food chain of the drug lord people.

Speaker: Yeah. So he sends her to Boston and kind of sort of like the the message is like, you need to do well on this if you think you're going to be able to get that promotion. ah And so then we see Melissa McCarthy's character, Shannon Mullins, ah doing a prostitution bust, which is a great scene. Like everything about that scene is really funny. Yes. um You get the guy from Arrested Development.

Speaker: Buster. Yeah. Yeah, thank you. That's his character's name on it. Yeah. but Not his real name. I should remember his real name. Well, I just watched like the behind the scenes and they had his name on there but because he was talking a lot in the behind the scenes for somebody who's barely in this movie. ah But it's really funny. So he's talking to this prostitute and then she comes up and she's like leaning in the window and she looks very slobby, you know, as she does the whole movie. And she's driving this terrible car and she comes up and he's like,

Speaker: yeah, maybe you should like get out of here. This is between me and her. And she's like, oh, and he's like, I don't want to buy any drugs from you. And she's like, oh, yeah, yeah. And he's like, what are you, her pimp? And she's like, no, just her friend. And then she like flashes her badge at him. and He's like, oh, maybe it's it's good thing I didn't get those drugs, huh? And so they laugh about that for a long time. Yeah. And then she's like, uh,

Speaker: She's like, somehow she finds out about his his wife and kids and stuff. She's like, oh, yeah, good, because I was really worried you were going to tell me you didn't have a wife and like 100 kids at home. And he she makes him give her a cell phone and then she calls the wife. And she's like, yeah, well, I got him here on the phone. And that sound you hear me breaking his hand. And she's like, look do it more? She wants me to do it more. so basically this guy has a really tough time. And then like...

Speaker: She has puts him in the back of the car. She arrests him and puts him in the back of the car. And then she's driving down the street and she sees these guys sitting on the corner. And I guess she knows the the one guy is like a drug dealer.

Speaker: Yeah, Rojas. And a pimp. Yeah, that's what it is. Yeah, he's a pimp. And ah he's like, look, I'm just hanging out out here. And he smokes a joint right in front of her. So anyways, she ends up chasing him. And there's this crazy chase scene. She like jumps over a fence. By the way, Melissa McCarthy did that stunt.

Speaker: Jumping over that fence. There's stuff about that in there. She just like slams him on the fence. He's got one leg on each side. Yeah. And there's a part when somebody is worried about her and in the behind the scenes features and she just looks and she goes, oh, no, I love this stuff. but So like she she did that. And then she said that the the guy. So the guy who I'm going to mess his name up, his name is something like Spoken Reasons or something like that. But anyways, they were apparently they had worked it out where she throws that watermelon at him. And she's like they had worked that out before. and And he had been like she was trying to like kind of lightly throw it at him. So not to hurt him. But she was like, this doesn't look right. And he was like, oh, it's fine. Just go ahead and blast me with it. and She's like so then he threw she threw it at him and it just like smashed him. and so There's a scene where she's like.

Speaker: it's like must be right after they got it where like in the behind the scenes she's like are you okay and like she's trying to make sure he's all right but i guess that's probably the one they got in the in the movie because she just smashes him in the back and he falls down and he's like limping i don't know i love that scene and i really liked the few times in the movie that the character of rojas made to came up i just thought he was really funny i love that he was like smoking weed right in front of her she's like what's that and then later in the movie Later in the movie, they go to see him and they know they like find him because he's involved in the drugs and they show up and and he's like, no, I'm out.

Speaker: and They're like, what do you think we're here for? And he's like, I'm out. I told you what part of that don't you understand? And then Sandra Bullock immediately goes to his freezer and opens it up. And there's like all this cocaine in there. And he's like, ah I just bought that.

Speaker: I just bought that freezer. That's not mine. That was in there. Came with it. I don't know. just really like that a lot. You just bought a new refrigerator. know. That's what I was just going to say. Did yours come with a bag of Coke? and Not that I'm aware of. yeah Well, give it a look later and find out.

Speaker: nice but ah But yeah, so I just i love that. So anyways, then you get to... um um right So Ashburn goes to the police station yeah because she they gets she gets pointed to Rojas by the f like the local FBI office. They're like, oh, they just arrested this mar local drug dealer.

Speaker: um so go talk to him. Yeah, and that's when we get the scene that um we were talking about earlier where Sandra Bullock makes her so mad with her parking job. Yes. And then we also kind of get a little bit of – that's when we first meet Tom Wilson as the put-upon police chief. Biff from Back to the Future. Yeah, Back the Future, Biff, who's her boss and apparently is just like almost running scared from her. He's like, oh, no, we don't mess with her collars. He's just shes we don't like her so defeated in his life in every way, I feel like. like He's like, I got a five-year-old son who calls me grandpa. I don't know. It's really funny to me. So then, like I said, there's all this stuff and they had the interrogation scene where you can tell that Sandra Bullock and Melissa McCarthy's characters have very different interrogation styles, to say the least. It's less good cop, bad cop, and more like stick-in-the-mood cop and insane cop.

Speaker: Can we circle back to the beginning? Because there's one thing. So Sandra Bullock is like, alone in her home in New York before she goes.

Speaker: And she's watching TV with the cat, which turns out to be her neighbor's cat. But on the TV, we see three things. And those things all come back around. um The first scene is like a scene from Foul Play where Goldie Hawn is being attacked by an albino.

Speaker: Yes. The second scene is a scene from The Matrix Reloaded where Trinity is fighting an albino. And then the third scene is a how to do a tracheotomy.

Speaker: Oh, can I tell you that I didn't put any of what you're saying together? Well, do you remember the first time we watched it? And I was like, she's about to give that guy a tracheotomy. And you were like, what? And that's what she starts to do because I had seen it earlier and it was like how to do a tracheotomy. And I was like, this is going to come back around. I feel like. This is why I would be a terrible detective. Like, I want to notice things, but I just don't. You want to know what happened to me when I saw that scene both times that we've watched it recently? i went, oh, look, foul play. I love that movie. And then I just stopped paying attention to anything else.

Speaker: I'm just like somebody jingled keys. And I was the first time we watched it in November. I remember you saying it was foul play. But the second time I was like, oh, that guy's an albino.

Speaker: And then i saw the second clip and I was like, that's a clip with an albino. And I was like, there's an albino in this movie. So you want to know something that makes me kind of sad about that? when um i can't remember if it was this movie. Maybe it was this movie because it was long after The Da Vinci Code. But like there was some movie that came out and I read this article and it was about like ah albino people talking about how much that it bothered them that they are represented in films as villains so often. Like and they were like, we are villains in this, in movies a lot. And it like referenced the Da Vinci code and stuff because there's a bino villain in that. And I just kind of, though I was thinking about, I think about that a lot. Whenever I think about the albino villains, I'm like, dang, that's right. They're right about that. That sucks. It's sort of like when, uh, some of the old universal monster movies, like eventually they would be like the vampire, the werewolf, the hunchback. And I'd be like, Oh no, no, that's so sad like they' like love it so don't don't do that hollywood um but anyways um that i'm so glad you pointed that out also i'm glad you brought that up because i totally skipped over that and that thing about her neighbor's cat is one of my favorite things in this movie how she loves that cat and she has pictures with the cat but it's the neighbor's cat and we find out that it's the neighbor's cat because we because we hear the neighbor call the cat and she goes away

Speaker: ah I really liked that a lot. um So, so yeah. So then the fast forward back to the president. So after they, they kind of clash over Rojas in the interview, in the interview scene, that's when we have this bar scene that we talked about earlier where she kind of like, she kind of like makes nice. Melissa McCarthy kind of makes nice with Sandra Bullock, but it's only because she's trying to take a look at her files. She stole Sandra Bullock's car keys. Yeah, that's right. and that's why Sandra Bullock has to go find her. to go to the bar. Yeah. That's right. That's right. Because she stole her car keys. I don't know. I just think that's funny, too. So then she like, she like, act she like makes this woman think that Sandra Bullock hit her or pushed her or something. Yeah.

Speaker: And Sandra Bullock's like, I'm a federal agent. And she's like, I'm a federal agent. I work at the post office. Yeah. And Sandra Bullock is like, oh, well, I respect what you do for us down there. something like It's a really funny moment. And she's like, she says something that I got to go catch a drink. And she's like, it's like 2 p.m. I don't know. it was It's really funny to me. i Oh, she's like, I guess nobody's getting the mail today. That's funny.

Speaker: I like that. So then is when they um they find out, I guess, through the files. Oh, no, they found out from Rojas about Tatiana. Tatiana, who's his like his supplier. So they both show up there. And that's when Mullins visits her brother in jail, too. Oh, See, you told me you you had written down the plot as you were going and I just was drifting along. I did. I was oblivious. So she goes to visit her brother and she asks her brother about Larkin.

Speaker: Because her brother had been like a low level drug dealer. And she's like, do you know this guy? And he's like, no, I'm, I'm out. I don't know. I'm getting out tomorrow. Yeah.

Speaker: So wait, is that how we found out about, Oh no, but that's not how we found out about Rojas. That's just just another scene that was in there. Yeah. About Rojas. Okay. Yeah. um And so then they go to Tatiana's house. I think that seems funny. And this just in case I don't remember to talk about this when I talk about favorite lines later, this is where the toilet humans thing comes up. So they're, so they're in there interviewing Tatiana played by Caitlin Olsen and she's being very uncooperative and they're trying to get details. And all of a sudden, Melissa McCarthy,

Speaker: kicks in the bathroom door and there's a woman just sitting on the toilet and caitlin elson's like that's my mother and she's like you've been in here the whole time and she's got a gun pointed at her and it's like everybody's screaming so i don't even remember now what they all say it's just like she's like caitlin elson's like get out of my place and that's when sandra bullock is like okay i think that's enough and she's trying to like get her out of there and melissa mccarthy says who closes the door when they take a dump and And Sandra Bullock goes, humans? and that just It's like a throwaway line. She's like, humans? And I just really thought that was so... she like Who closes the door when they take a dump?

Speaker: Humans? So when Sandra Bullock pulls up at the building where Tatiana is, Mullins is already there in her car, and she's like, what are you doing here? And she's like, i live here. And it's kind of like...

Speaker: It comes off like it's maybe a joke, but then she actually does live here. yeah They go to her apartment right after they go to Tatiana's. And Sandra Bullock goes, oh you really do live here? And she's like, yeah.

Speaker: and so And it's like a disgusting place to live. Oh, it's dump. All her windows are boarded up. And she's like, yeah, i don't have the i don't have the window carpets or whatever she calls them. And she's like... Also, her refrigerator is just full of guns and ammunition and grenades. Yeah.

Speaker: Which objectively awesome. That's objective. Well, but that's that's like the first moment where she and Sandra Bullock bond because Sandra Bullock is like, is that a blah, blah, blah? Is that a blah, blah, blah? So she likes she knows her guns. Yeah. Yeah. And they're kind of she's like, yeah. And they kind of just like have this moment.

Speaker: But then it gets ruined by the the hand grenade. She picks it up and she's like that one ticks and she's like going to pull it down slowly. And then also this is where another one of my favorite running gags comes up. Melissa McCarthy is like, you want anything to eat? Like I got a little bit of a sandwich I didn't finish the other day. She's like, I would rather i forget what she said. She's like, I'd rather lick the floor. forget what she said. and She's like, you know, you she's like, well, you don't be rude about it. She's like, ah you could just catch a staph infection from eating it like it's just that's the first time we hear about that sandwich, not the last time. No. so So then they go to Club Echo, which is where they're tracking down. Man, I do sometimes forget how we find out about people. I guess from. So they stole a cigarette.

Speaker: Oh, they stole a cigarette from Tatiana's and they had it DNA tested. Oh, yeah. And that's how they learn about. um Shoot. I can't remember. Hank Lesoir. Oh, Hank.

Speaker: Hank Lesoir. And they go to the club because I guess he's just known to hang out there. Yeah. And that's when they're, so they're trying to figure out how to get close to him. And she's like, all right, I'm going to pull the fire alarm. And when he comes out, I'm going to like bump him and then he'll drop his phone and I'll get it. And I'll put the bug in. I call it a cop drop. And then she pulls the fire alarm and there's just not wired at all. And I'll just, I don't thought this was really funny. Cause I'm a child, but she's like, what is this? It's like, and she starts poking and Melissa McCarthy's like, don't touch that. That's a condom. it' like it's like tucked into this like fire extinguisher this fire alarm that's not wired up at all so then they have to come with plan b so they decide they're gonna like use their feminine wiles to get close to uh le soir because he's out on the dance floor so they go in the bathroom uh and that's when melissa mccarthy decides to beautify i don't know what the term she cuts up the sandra bullock's clothes she's giving her a really hard time about her clothes yeah

Speaker: She like cuts her pants into shorts and like cuts the sleeves off her, ah her blouse. She says, in go ahead. Sorry. She does not look good. She does not look good.

Speaker: What do you mean? I mean, she looks crazy. oh yeah. She comes out of the bathroom. She looks crazy. And her hair is all like crazy. She for sure looks crazy. I think it adds to the scene, but she for sure looks crazy. But I like the part when she like cuts her pants off into shorts. And she's like, she says, something like, everybody loves shorts. And she's like, what are these? And she's like, these are my Spanx. She's like, what? She's like, my Spanx. They hold everything. They keep everything where they're supposed to where it's supposed to be. And Melissa McCarthy says, she says, Like medically? And I think that's so funny. Like medically? And she's like, no, just it keeps everything where it's supposed to be. It's just really funny to me, though, because she's she's like making fun of whole time about like being dressed like a square. And later when they go to the family dinner at her house, one of the brothers says, so what are you? ah You like a Bible salesman or something?

Speaker: Are you selling Bibles? One of the girlfriends is like, are you a boy or girl? Are you a boy or a girl? It's a fair question. Yeah. syria yeah Apparently, like that scene, a lot of that stuff was improvised and Sandra Bullock just had to like go with it. And she was talking about how hard it was because she was like, they're saying the meanest things. And she's like, I just like I can't give anything back. I just have to like take it. Um, so i thought that was funny, but so anyways, they do this whole thing, but like they finally get close to, Le Soir and he says something like, he's like, your moves are really weird. Cassandra Bullock's dancing with him He's like, your moves are really weird, but I love it. Yeah. and melissa mccarthy's like running defense and she's like like shouldering all these women off of him so sandra bullock can get close oh my goodness and i almost forgot chris gethard is in this scene yes uh and he as soon as they come out of the bathroom he says something like wow and she says what and he's like uh i just like the way your friend's shorts are making me feel in my shorts well look he's like sorry that came out way creepier than i'm just like kind of like Mackinac on Melissa McCarthy the rest of the time, I feel like, the dance floor. But once again, she's not having it. And she's just like, no, no. And so...

Speaker: He's really funny because he's so clueless. And when they finally are going to do the cop drop, like ah most McCarthy, I guess it is runs by or maybe he said a bullet does. They knock his phone out of his hand. So goes to the floor and like sweet and Santa Bullock is just about to get it and do the cop drop and put the bug in the phone. And Chris Gethman picks it up. He's like, here you go, bro. And was like, thanks, bro. So they have to stick with him way longer. So anyways, they eventually bug his phone when Sandra Bullock is really awkwardly hitting on him at the that their private table. And then they get called out. And that's when we first meet the DEA agents. Yes. They get followed by a van and you think it's going to be a bad guy. Right. Because it's a chase scene. They do little chase scene. But it's actually the DEA agents, one of whom is our albino. is our effort and the other whom is uh teron killum uh of snl fame um yeah and so they basically are like we have the whole moment where it's like a trope in these kind of movies where they have the jurisdictional pissing match and whose whose jurisdiction isn't they're like we've been sitting on this guy for months and you two just walk in here and ruin the whole thing and it turns out that the albino is like pretty sexist like he's yeah that's what i was about to say yeah i was like this is where we get like

Speaker: the, all of the misogynistic stuff about gender and everything is from the albino. He is a huge jerk. Yeah. He's basically just like these ladies are ruined and everything. Um, and so they, that's when they see the video in the DEA van. Cause they have like, apparently a video bug in there. And that's when they find out that Jason who's out of prison now actually is meeting with Lessoir and Julian, who I don't know if we even know him yet, but we see him in the video.

Speaker: So that's when they decide to go to um ah Ashburn convinces Mullins that they need to go talk to him. So they and she's basically like, my family doesn't like me because I'm the one who arrested my brother. So they go to they go to family dinner the next day. And as soon as they walk in the door, one of the brothers goes, oh, look at this asshole. That was pretty funny.

Speaker: Like as soon as they come in the door. And so, you know, something's going to be up. and so then they give them a hard time. And we've already talked a little about how she's like, who are you? Who are you? ah And then she sneaks her brother away. And she once again, this is a touching part because she finds out that he's like he's he's trying to be like, oh, you know, everything's cool. They wanted me to work for him again. And I was like, no, I'm out. I'm going straight. And she's like, why are you wearing a long sleeve shirt? She pulls it up and they've like burned his arm with cigarettes. Yeah. ah And he's like, he's like, you know, don't don't do anything about this. You know, don't go after my I handled it. It's OK now. But she gets really mad. And so she's going to She's like, who did this? And that's when she goes to find Mullins. I mean, I've read her name. Julian at this like warehouse place. How do they find out where he's going to be?

Speaker: you know um Jason tells them about some other guy who was murdered. So Julian is like the guy, like an enforcer guy who like cuts everybody up.

Speaker: Yeah. Because at the very beginning, um sandra Bullock's boss is like showing her all these pictures of all these like right right mutilated bodies. And Julian is the guy who does that. So the they go to the morgue.

Speaker: That's where it was like, you know, they cut out his tongue and shoved it in his butt. Yeah, yeah, and She's like, they put googly eyes on it or anything like that. So that it missed a real opportunity.

Speaker: And then Sandra Bullock makes some joke about being tongue in cheek. And she's like yeah such a nerd about it. It was really that part was really well delivered, though, because it is funny. But it's like just like such a corny joke that everybody's like, ah man, come on. OK, so that's right.

Speaker: So but that body like the shoes had a powder coating on them. Right. And so they go back to like the FBI office and all of the bodies have this powder coating and they're like, oh, it's like a paint factory.

Speaker: And that's where we get this really funny scene where they they trying to finish each there well they're both trying to finish Marlon Wayans' sentences before the other one. So he's trying to tell them something, and they keep cutting in.

Speaker: And then he's he goes to say some kind of name, which turns out to be a pretty normal name. I don't remember what it is. It starts with like an S. And they're like he's like, Marvin S. And they're like, S.

Speaker: And he's like, what? And then he tells them, and they're like, oh, so not Starvamendabjabir? And he's like, no, not that. I don't know. i just thought that was really funny. um And then they go to the to this paint factory, which, fun fact, I don't know if it was that scene or a later scene or maybe both, was shot in like this old, apparently this old... um the Boston Herald maybe like had moved oh buildings and they, they, they've shot it in this old newspaper of place. So like they were talking about how it was like dirty and grimy and there were no, there was no air conditioning in there. So they had to vent all these air conditioning units like vented in there. They're like, that stirred up all this dust and who knows what else. So apparently it was not a very pleasant experience to film in there. um

Speaker: So anyways, they go there and they end up having this like whole gunfight where they like have a, have a shootout kills a guy. Yeah, Mullins does kill a guy, a but a bad guy who's going to kill him. Yeah, but I was just like, whoa, she is. Let's try him. Yeah, and then they arrest those two, um and then they bring him in, and then the DEA comes in and raises a stink, and they bring him into the FBI office. And so then um Ashburn's boss is there, And she and he's like, you need to just go home. He's upset about this whole thing because they didn't tell anybody before they were doing this. and They got into a gunfight. The DA is all mad. And he's like, you just need to go home. And this is yet another moment when we kind of start to see the relationship kind of progress between the two of them, because then they go. ah Most McCarthy's like, you want to go get a drink? What's the point of being a cop? if you can't have a drink at the end of the day. So they go.

Speaker: And basically, Melissa McCarthy is like tricking Sandra Bullock into getting drunk. and And they end up getting really drunk real drunk. We get a montage. We get a montage of them just having a real drunken time. They're like doing a dance, which apparently they had a lot of fun doing that dance. There was a whole thing in the behind the scenes where they were like, we didn't want to...

Speaker: we didn't want it to seem too good. We wanted it to seem like two drunk girls had been forcing everybody to watch them for 20 minutes, play the same song over and over again and come up with this dance. And so they're like, we just like they had a choreographer and we were just like, go away somewhere. We are going to do this. And they just like apparently choreographed it out themselves. And like a lot of it was sort of like made up almost on the fly. And Sandra Bullock was like, Sandra Bullock was like Ashburn's character doesn't understand rhythm. So I had to make sure that my dance moves seemed really awkward. i don't know i just thought it was really fun. So we also get a really hilarious line from Mullins in this bar scene where so like Sandra Bullock is like having these drinks and she's like having a mental breakdown about how sad her life is. Yeah. And she goes, I was actually married for like six or seven years.

Speaker: Mullins goes, was he a hearing man? And it was kind of a throwaway line if you're not paying attention, but it's so funny. Because I remember the first time we watched that, you died when we. I think we had rewind it. Yeah, I think we Because I couldn't stop laughing. I don't know, just little lines like that. was he a hearing man? The other thing they do is they put like tape on their nose. They like take their noses up.

Speaker: And it that makes me laugh because when I was a kid, my mom would sometimes do that. And then she would be like, that was when she would adopt her snooty personality was like.

Speaker: And she would say her name was Tiffany. wow. It was just, it was like a little bit that she would do. And it was funny. um i think there was I think that was one of those things that they were kind of improvising and just kind of stayed in the movie. And I like the fact that we actually don't get an explanation of why they're doing that. Like in some of the behind the scenes stuff that did in the movie, it was like at one point they were talking about, I want to say they said something about who did your nose job. And then at one point she was like, i smell bacon or something like that. And so they were like doing a pig nose. I don't know. But I really like the fact that in the actual movie, we don't really find that out. It's just something goofy they did. So the next morning they wake up just like,

Speaker: Well, I say they're hungover. Melissa McCarthy doesn't seem to be too perturbed. yeah she's She's playing poker or something at a table. And Sandra Bullock like comes stumbling in just in time to see Melissa McCarthy bet Sandra Bullock's blazer and lose it. And then she's like, well, you didn't seem to care when you gave away your car last night. And so they follow this like old guy. And she's like, you were making out with him all night. And so they follow him outside and they're like trying to get the car back. But then about that time, they get a call from the brother Wait, I'm getting things mixed up now.

Speaker: No, the car. He gets in the car. Yeah. And it explodes. yeah Well, that's what I was going to say, because obviously I love a car explosion. It's just one of my great joys in life. But I feel like. No, I think Sandra Bullock gets a call from her boss that Julian escaped or something. Yes, that's right. Yes, they get a call. That's what I was trying to remember. They get a call and they're like, Julian escaped. And about that time, they're like, he gets in the car and the car just explodes. And bless that guy's heart. Nobody seems to be too broken up about that guy passing away in the Mullins goes. Mullins goes.

Speaker: Your first boyfriend. You two are electric. You two are electric. ah So he blows up and that's when they they're talking to the cops and they get and Sandra Bullock gets a text or something, their email. And it's a picture of Mullins's family. And that's when they know his family is being threatened. So they moved them into a motel. It's a hilarious scene. And that's how they they also find out that there's a mole is. Oh, right. Julian escapes. Right. That's that. Yes. So we know there's some, there's somebody on the inside. That's a bad guy, but we don't know who. So then we get this hilarious scene that we're, they're moving the family to the hotel and none of them want to do it. And they're like, we have to go get my, we have to go get Gina. We have to go get, we're going to Gina's. And, ah and they bring like this huge dog. He's like, it's my puppy. I've had him for four months.

Speaker: And so it's pretty funny. So they bring them all to this hotel and nobody wants to be there. um And, and, i can't remember exactly when. Maybe I'm getting this backwards, but i don't think so. But at some point they're off doing something and the brother Jason calls and he's like, I had to get out of there. I was too bored and I came down here I'm with the bad guys.

Speaker: Sandra Bullock and Melissa McCarthy, they go to like a Denny's for right yeah breakfast. And that's where there's the unnecessary tracheotomy. I can't watch it. I couldn't watch it the second time. I was curious if you made it this time. i did not. I did not. I didn't. It's just so gross. I actually didn't even like let it play. I fast forwarded through part. Oh, so then you'll miss the hilarious part when Melissa McCarthy is going, yeah, yeah. let's just I just couldn't do it. It's like, Sandra Bullock is doing all this, and Melissa McCarthy's going, ugh, ugh. And then afterwards, the guy who played ah Gabe on yeah um The Office, he's like, yeah, you're a really reckless person. You could have just, he's like, you're a really reckless person. Could have gotten the pancake out of his throat. And he tells Melissa McCarthy, he's like, thank you, thank you very much. And he looks at Sandra Bullock and he goes, not you, not you.

Speaker: I really liked that part too. So anyways, yeah. So that's when they get the call from, uh, from the brother and he's like, I had to get out of there and I'm with the bad guys, but I've kind of like, I'm on the inside now. And so I'll let you know what's going on. And, and Melissa McCarthy is like, no, get out of there, go back to the hotel. But Sandra Bullock really wants to use him as a mole on the inside of the bad guys. And so they, that's a part where they really have this kind of falling out and they're fighting over the phone. um,

Speaker: And in the end, he's like, he tells them where the shipment is coming in. He's like, I'll be there. And she's like, well, we'll be there. And so go they go to the Boston Harbor for the shipment that night of drugs, I guess. He's like, it's supposed to, it's a it's a a boat called the Tanked.

Speaker: And when it comes up, it's a, they're all there. All the FBI's are there. And when they pull up, it's a party boat. yeah And he's like, the boat was clean. And Sandra Bullock goes, well, it wasn't clean. We found a joint in that one girl's purse, which was really funny. ah And so then that's when she's like, where's, where's Mullins? And they're like, oh, she had to go to the hospital, some kind of family emergency. We find out that they apparently learned, I guess once again, because the cops have a mole, with yeah there's a mole inside of the cops who's feeding information back to the bad guys. But,

Speaker: And we find out that Jason, brother Jason, got shot and he's in an induced coma. And so that's when they have this big falling out because Sandra Bullock put her brother at risk and she's really mad. And she's like, sir, you know my partner anymore? And she's like, no, get out of here. That's when we have the scene when she slaps the cup out of that a nurse's hand. She's like, I'm going go find the bad guy. So then they break they like break up for a minute. We have one of those scenes where they're like yeah doing their job on their own.

Speaker: That's apparently where I stopped writing down the the plot I wrote. Our buddies break up. And I don't have anything past that. Dot, dot, dot. I have to remember. The end. Our buddies break up the end. Yeah.

Speaker: But so they they're both just basically going out busting bad guys. But this is when we have our scene where the DEA is going to come in and like take over the investigation. It's Sandra Bullock, you're off the case. And they're like, we're going pick out.

Speaker: Our own members of the Boston PD to help us because we don't want somebody like this one. And they put up a picture um of Mullins and they're like making fun of her. And Sandra Bullock walks in and we have the moment where she's like that cop that you have up there that you're making fun of is the best cop I've ever worked with. She's better than me. She's better than all of you. and she like really takes up for her. And it's really honestly kind of moving, like softy, but it's very moving.

Speaker: But then she walks out and the door is glass and she gives them the double bird across the glass I laughed so hard when she slides the double bird and it makes a squeaky sound across the door. I laughed so hard. It's also when Sandra Bullock first tries, like her character Ashburn first tries out swear words. And she sounds like me when I'm playing video games and I lose. Like she... She just throws out like a string of them that don't make any sense. And so, um but yeah, I like that. So then they eventually, we we come up to Melissa McCarthy's character who gets, she's found a bad guy, but then another bad guy comes in and gets the drop on her and is like, you know, put your hands up or whatever. Yeah. She's actually like, she's doing like old school police work where she's going through all these, like she's following the the chain everything.

Speaker: where the evidence has taken her to find out who this Larkin guy is. Yeah. But she gets some bad guy gets to drop on her. And then wouldn't, you know, it's Sandra Bullock has come somehow founder and she gets to drop on that bad guy. Yeah. And suddenly she looks cool as fuck. And she's just like, sorry, I'm not supposed to say. phone No, you can. Like I said, we keep, we, you can, we, it's not, she's got like the bulletproof vest on. And she's I don't know. She just looks, she has like a totally different vibe.

Speaker: Did you notice that? Yeah. Kinda. I kinda noticed it, but I don't know if I even paid attention her clothes. I just thought maybe she's had a new attitude as Patti LaBelle would tell us. Well, has like, cool cargo pants. She looks like... Like...

Speaker: military chic. I don't know. Well, she's doing, she's doing swear words now. So she's, yeah like I said, you know, she's, she's so am i apparently she's cool cop now. So like, and you're a cool cop. And so like, uh, but so, uh, that's when they like team back up and they're like, all right. Oh, cause that's when she says the name of the movie, right? She's like me and her,

Speaker: We're the heat. Yeah, they actually say it one time earlier in the movie. I don't remember where exactly, but yeah. Well, i think that's when Melissa McCarthy is trying to be like, we're the heat. Like she's trying to convince her. And this time she's like, we're the heat. So then they do another thing that I really love. which is they they go down to Melissa McCarthy's apartment and they just like have this moment where they play like military dress up. And they just, they just like, it reminded me of Commando when Arnold Schwarzenegger is like putting on all his gear to go blow everybody in the world up. And that's what they do here. And I just, I i like scenes. I don't know. It's just another one of those things like exploding cars where I'm like, yes, please show us a scene where you're putting on every gun in the world. I love that. And then she picks up a

Speaker: the grenade and sander billet goes not that when you said it ticks and she goes not for days how was they really what that meant i just really liked it not for days a little disappointed so like when they first go and they're looking at all the weapons in her apartment the first time we're in her apartment she has like a rocket launcher yeah oh that never comes out yeah they they broke the rule at Chekhov's rocket launcher we want to see that rocket launcher get used but it it doesn't get used sad shame that um shame that um and so actually maybe it does I don't remember I don't remember

Speaker: No, it's the grenade. It's the grenade that gets used. Yeah, right. Sure. Yes. Right. Because the it was like the whole ring thing. Yeah. Yeah. So there. um So, yeah. So then they go to this um to this warehouse. And how do they know where to go for that?

Speaker: Do you know? Yeah. I mean, it doesn't matter. I think maybe the the one of the drug dealers tells them. Rojas again, right? I think it's Rojas again. Yes. Because they've come that's when we get the scene where he's like, I'm clean. And they're like, what's this drugs in your fridge? He's like, that came with the freezer. um So then they go to the warehouse and they have this final fight scene, which is pretty cool. Like you said, they're like blowing people up. they Well, because there's all these bad guys that keep like showing up. Because at first they're like two on two.

Speaker: I like those odds, which the second time of the movie they said that. And the second time it hasn't worked. And so then all of a sudden these dudes, all these dudes come out. She's like, how many, you guys are all coming back from break at the same time. and so, uh, Sandra Bullock is actually, uh, is it Sandra Bullock or Melissa McCarthy's character here? Who's the quick thinker? I think it's Sandra Bullock. Yeah. Cause she's like, just has la so whatever his name is. Yeah. He shows up.

Speaker: And she was like, oh, I guess you guys are engaged now. and he's Well, yeah, because she she's like, she's like, put your guns down and and we'll throw you the bag with all our stuff. And Melissa McCarthy's character, if she doesn't know what's going on she's like doing a great job pretending. She's like, you suck. You know, she's mad that she's putting her guns down. Well, then when they slide the bag over, I guess she must know what's going on because they slide the bag over. Melissa McCarthy's character says, well, it looks like you guys are engaged now. And he's like, what? And she's like, because you put a ring on it or something. And there's it's she Sandra Bullock has pulled out the grenades.

Speaker: the ring. And so then the, the bag just like blows up. Cause it's got all those weapons in there and blows all those guys up. But then there's like another bad guy. And Melissa McCarthy's like, how many of you are there? Um, so eventually they get tied up. Um,

Speaker: Julian, I keep wanting to call Stuart from Mad TV, but ah Julian is is tied is tied them up. Oh, we totally skipped over the scene where at some point they were interrogating Julian and Melissa McCarthy played Russian roulette with his crotch. Oh, yes. Which we found out. We find out later that um she said she'd taken all the bullets out. But we'll get there. ah she made out like she only took out five of the bullets and she had like, she, she did, she clicked the gun five times on his crotch. And that's when he told him everything you wanted, they want to know. um And so anyways, now he's got them tied up and he's like, now I get to interrogate you. And he's got all these knives and,

Speaker: He's he like pulls out a little tiny oyster shucking knife and he's like getting ready to torture him. And he's like, oh, the boss is here. I've got to go see the I've got to go see Mr. Larkin. And he's like, hold this knife. And Sandra Bullock's like, my hands are are tied up and he slams the knife into her throat.

Speaker: I know. Even I was like, yikes. And so she's got this knife sticking out of her thigh. And so then they're going to try to get out. And Melissa McCarthy is like worked around. and She's like, got to get the knife out. And so she pulls the knife out, which I was worried about. i was like why is this leg not bleeding? But once again, it's movie logic. And so she's like used it to cut her.

Speaker: wrist ropes and then julian starts to come back and she's like oh no i've got to put the knife back and she's like what and she's like i gotta put the knife and she stabs her one time and she's like oh i'm sorry it was gonna be so hard to get it in there and she stabs her again so now she sandra looks gonna stab three times in the in the in the leg yeah it reminded me of talladega nights when ricky bobby thinks that he's paralyzed and he stabs himself in the leg with the steak knife i didn't even think about that that's funny um And so – but then they like – they pull a fast one. Melissa McCarthy's hands are – Well, no. The DEA guys come in. It's not Julian. Oh, right. OK. Thank you. Right. The DEA guys come in, and that's when we find out – And they're like, what are you doing here? And they say, we followed you. We knew you wouldn't leave the case alone. So they followed them to the – that's how they found out where the – how the DEA guys found out where to –

Speaker: but Yes. stuff And then she says so he says the albino is giving her hard time. and He says something about your brother getting wasted. And she's like, well, something about he's in a coma. And that's when all of a sudden Taryn Killam's character is like, wait, he's not dead.

Speaker: And she's like, no, he's like, he's like, what hospital is he in? and she's like, what are you going him a card? And all sudden they put together, they're like, you're Larkin. And he's like, I really wish you wouldn't have said that. And he shoots the albino. Yeah. And Melissa McCarthy's like, so it wasn't the albino. I kind of feel bad for that guy or something like that. And he's like, no, he was just a huge sexist or something like that. Like Darren Kilbanks, he's a misogynistic jerk. um And so then we find out he's the he is the bad guy. And honestly, I have a hard time remembering how this fight scene, um this final scene.

Speaker: um, ends because Julian comes back and, oh, and know because Taron Killam is like, got to go take care of Jason. You take care of these guys. Yeah. Um, but then how do they get free from Julian?

Speaker: Because Melissa McCarthy has cut her rope. Right. And so, They just like attack him. She attacks him. Yeah. And then he's like ah going to go after her. And Sandra Bullock like trips him with her. She's still tied to the chair. So she like throws her chair in front of him with her body. And I was trying to remember because that's when he gets Sandra Bullock and he's like, you can't. He's using as a human shield. And Sandra Bullock like does a back headbutt into his nose. Yeah. I was trying to remember that because she was like, oh, I think I'm going to throw up.

Speaker: And Melissa McCarthy goes, yeah, that was a bad head bump. You did real good. You did real good. And so then they go to the hospital and there's this whole funny scene where like they they go into the hospital and Sandra Bullock can't get in there because her leg's been stabbed three times. So she's struggling to get in. Melissa McCarthy runs in and she's like the blonde nurse once again is at the desk and she rips the phone out of her hand and throws it against the wall. And she's like, get off the phone.

Speaker: so They've been trying to call the hospital. Oh, yeah, right. So another thing in the behind the scenes, they show that scene and they're like, she just maybe kind of sort of improvised that. And she like picked that phone and said, get off the phone. And she throws it and it apparently broke this lamp and shattered the phone. um elizabeth Melissa McCarthy turns around and she goes, i hope you got that or something like that. You're like, did you get that?

Speaker: um so then they go to the room taron killum's in there he threatens to like inject um oxygen air into her brothers you know which will kill you and um so he's got the drop on her with like his gun and and she's like she's she sees center bullet like crawling down the hallway and And so she's like trying to distract him. She's like, I get it. I get why it's hard to be on the job. And, you know, your moral lines start blurring. You see all these bad guys. and You start thinking, are they the bad guys or am I? And he's like, she's like, you don't have to do this. He's like, I don't.

Speaker: Except the fact that i have plans and none of them involve going to prison. And so all of a sudden Sandra Bullock like manages to slide in and she's got her gun and she's ah and they have like they're like just a moment where they're holding their guns on each other. And he's like, drop your gun. And she's like, you drop your gun. And he's like, no. And he's he says something and and she doesn't even wait. She just goes, boom, boom, fires off two shots right into his groin. Yeah. She shoots him right in the crotch and he like falls. And that's when Melissa McCarthy is like, whoa, you shot him twice in the crotch. And she's like, yeah. She's like, I learned it from you. And she's like, yeah, but I never did it. I'm not, I'm not a psychopath. I'm not a crazy person. She's like, but you, you held the gun to Julian. And she's like, I take out all the bullets. You should just scare people, but you really did it. But no, you did great. You did great. My thought there in seeing the behind the scenes was,

Speaker: Did Terran Killam have to have squibs attached to his crotch? I never even thought about that. ah But like I guess so. guess I would think that would still hurt. Dude, it definitely would hurt. So I used to listen to – everybody should listen to the I Was There Too podcast. It's an older podcast now. So good. But the the host was obsessed. I should know his name. Who knows how many – Matt Gourley. He was like obsessed with squibs since he would always ask people about squibs. And one day he got somebody explain to him and they were like oh it still hurts. Yeah. Like if you get squibed, it still hurts. It's an explosive thing. and So that's my first thought. I said, do you have two squibs on his crotch? But anyways, so he gets wheeled out of there, not having a great day. And then we kind of start wrapping it up. They've had their like buddy moment. They're walking out of the hospital and they're like, Sandra Bullock's like, should we be leaving the hospital? And she's like, no, spin around. And so they put her on a stretcher. Marlon Wands comes in and like basically him and Sandra Bullock hit on each other.

Speaker: Cause he like comes in and he's like, He's like got the situation handled. He's like, I'm in charge. You guys do this stuff. You guys do this stuff. And she thinks that's really hot. Yeah. And then she like she like somehow props her like wounded body up and like a hot girl pose. And he's like, take care of this lady. She's one of the FBI's best agents. And oh no, he says he says she says something about he says she says, are you good? He's like, are you good? And she's like, I'm good. And I left. Melissa McCarthy goes, I'm good, too.

Speaker: Because they're like hitting on each other. Melissa McCarthy goes, I'm good completely missed that one. It's really, shes i'm good too. ah And so then Melissa McCarthy is getting an award and um Ashburn, Sandra Bullock has convinced her family to come because, you know, they've not been proud of her for being a cop this whole time, but now they are proud of her. Are they though? I feel like.

Speaker: Well, they support the mom especially is still not proud of. she's Yeah, well, that's kind of the joke. But the family comes and supports her at the award ceremony is what I'm saying. You know, yeah she's she's really happy they're there because they're like, hold it up, hold it up. And she holds it up. So I think they're being supportive. Then we find out that Ashburn has been moved to Boston.

Speaker: um and she's like did you get the package i sent you and it's a really sweet moment because we found out earlier that sandra bullock's yearbook only had two signatures both from teachers and i wrote one of them down i wrote one of the things that i said see you next year student that's that's the lot So anyway, she's like she's written a a vulgar like FU or something in the front of it. She's like, now look at the back.

Speaker: Don't make it weird. And it says like foster kid. Now you have a sister. And it's very so very touching. And then she makes some kind of joke. And then most of crowd goes, yeah, you made it weird. And she eggs up and that's basically the end. Right.

Speaker: Well, Melissa McCarthy brings her that. Yes, that's mid credits. So that's what i was going to get to another one of my favorite things. Oh, we totally left out that there's another part later where for where for some reason she's like at the end, I think when she's leaving her in the hospital, she's like, you may bring you that sandwich. And she's like the same sandwich you offered me five days ago. And she's like, it's cheese. It doesn't go bad.

Speaker: but so yeah So then we get to a scene that I really loved, which is at the very end, like partway through the credits, there's a knock on Sandra Bullock's apartment door. And Melissa McCarthy's like, I felt bad.

Speaker: I felt bad about your cat. Because she told her earlier, she'd seen the picture earlier of her cat of the cat. And she's like, you got a cat? Where is he? I'd love to loved pet the little fella. And she's like, oh, he ran away. It's really sad. Because then we get this whole thing where Melissa McCarthy's like, it's so sad. He looked at your sad life. Yeah. He was like, even that cat was like, I don't want any of this. She's like, I don't want any of this. Even the cat ran away. It's so sad. And she's so um she's like, ah I felt really bad. She's like, so I went and I was looking all around. And finally, I heard this jingle. and I looked in the window and there was this cat sitting in your neighbor's apartment. So I went in and I got him. And he's she's like, I brought him back to you. And there's this awkward moment.

Speaker: and so And she's like, it was never your cat, was it? And she was like, no. And she's like, she's like, I got to go take it back to their neighbor now to you put your neighbor's apartment now. is I loved that callback. I thought it was funny. So the first time that they're at Sandra Bullock's apartment, Sandra Bullock is in her pajamas. And yes, McCarthy's like, let's go. And she's like, well I got to change. And she's like, why? What's wrong with your pantsuit? Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker: She's like, they're pajamas. And she's like, oh, I'm sorry. go get your top hat. It was really that was really funny. As a person who loves to wear a matching top and bottom pajama set, it just feels really nice. You do.

Speaker: It just feels really nice. Do you wear a monocle too? Of course I wear a monocle. um But it is um i just I thought that was really funny. She's like, your pantsuit. Well, go get your top hat. So, yeah, so that's pretty much The heat. I feel like I'm trying to think if there was anything else I really wanted to really needed to talk about. Anything else you really wanted to talk about?

Speaker: No, I was most proud of my observations of the like TV clips and the albinos and the. Honestly, I was very impressed by that. i that That's what I was. leaving Because I had texted you and said.

Speaker: I have one thing that I'm actually really proud that i observed and that was it. You did great. um So usually I talk about the film score because as you know, I'm obsessed with film scores. I didn't have a lot of thoughts about this film score. I thought it was a good score. it just wasn't anything that jumped out to me. And I don't know a lot about the the composer whose name I said earlier, but we'll say it again. Credit where credit's due. Michael Andrews. Did you have any thoughts about the score from the movie?

Speaker: No, I didn't really even notice it. I don't feel like. Yeah, it didn't really stand. But it I mean, it fit the movie. It was a fine score. I will say that like um the songs that were chosen for the movie, apparently Paul Feig was like really intentional about choosing the songs. And he was like, I just he's like, I'm gonna have to watch this movie 100 times to make it. So I want to really enjoy the music. And he's like, every song in this movie is like a Desert Island song for me. So apparently he he really was careful about choosing all the music and all the songs. Yeah. That's cool. Yeah. So finally I will do my little, my little buddy cop crossovers thing. I didn't have as many this time, not really trying to force it, but I will say Sandra Bullock star of Miss Congeniality to debatable amongst some people in our friend group, whether Miss Congeniality one counts as a buddy cop movie. It does not.

Speaker: It's in debate in our friend group. It's in debate in our friend group. But Miss Congeniality to definitely a buddy cop movie. So she's in that Marlon Wayans is in white chicks and, And apparently Melissa McCarthy. that buddy cop movie?

Speaker: Oh, yeah. I've never seen it, but it's listed as a buddy cop movie. And I mean, you read the plot, it seems like it is. um So it's on my buddy cop list on Letterboxd. And ah Melissa McCarthy apparently had a small role in Central Intelligence. So that was the ones I had there.

Speaker: So, yeah, so that's pretty much it. Crystal, thanks so much. This was a blast. It was fun. I am going to plug the podcast socials, but I just wanted to say, like I said, thanks again for coming. I was really glad you wanted to do this. I really enjoyed watching this film with you and I enjoyed getting to discuss it. And it was great because you definitely followed the plot a lot better than me, apparently, and noticed some things that I didn't notice. I watch movies and I'm like, yeah, then they punched him and there funny joke and then it blew up and then there was a sidekick. You know, the first time we watched it, we just watched it.

Speaker: And then when I watched it earlier this week, then I was like, I'm going to write some things down because I'm not going to remember how this goes. And the second time I watched it, pretty much I just watched it again because I was just like, I don't want to write. um So, yeah.

Speaker: So anyways, I did want to plug some things. First thing that I wanted to plug, um this is not even my thing. I just really care about this project. um There is a film. I'm a huge Sam Furstenberg fan. Sam Furstenberg, the director of such classics. as Revenge of the Ninja, my all-time favorite ninja flick, American Ninja, American Ninja 2, Cyborg Cop, Avenging Force, one of my favorite directors. Steve James, one of my all-time favorite action stars, starred as the sidekick to Dudikoff in the American Ninja franchise. He was in Blood Fist 5. He was in The Hero and the Terror with the late, great Chuck Norris.

Speaker: um Big Steve James fan of yours. So anyways, there's a film called Riverbend. River Bend was one of the few movies that Steve James got to star in before he passed away tragically early. ah It has been what's called an orphan film. It has been one of these movies that was only ever released limited on VHS for a while. My dear friend Mo, who was on the first episode of this podcast, acquired one of these VHS tapes and we watched it together a while back and really loved it. So both he and I have been really following this project where – Real Black Cinema, that's R-E-E-L, like a film reel, Real Black Cinema, has been working to do a 6K restoration of Riverbend. And so there is a Kickstarter. You know what? That's a great question. that's As a VHS collector...

Speaker: I could, I have a hard time explaining the, all the different specs to you. don't expect you to actually explain it to me, but like, I've never heard that. You know, who could probably explain to you is Mo. So it's a 6k, it's a 6k, uh, restoration and it's coming out on Blu-ray. I'm an early backer of this project. Um, the Kickstarter only has about 63 hours left or probably this point, 61.

Speaker: um So by the time this episode comes out, it it probably won't still be up. I just would encourage everybody to follow this project. I just got while we were recording the announcement that they have, they are showing it here in Raleigh. They are going to be doing cinematic screenings across the United States. I just really want people to check out riverbend check out real black, uh, on Instagram and, uh, just follow this project. I think you'll really enjoy it if you like action films and, um, it's, it's going to be real great to have this movie, um, released on, on Blu-ray. So i just wanted to plug that, um, plug the socials for the podcast. We're on Instagram at steak and shake pod. That's S T A K E. We have the person on the podcast right now who thought that up for me. Thank you very much. Uh, and ah you you can follow me on Instagram at cliff Weston. And you can follow me on Letterboxd. My name on there is the underscore strongbow. As we've mentioned, hey, I would love for you to just keep up with what I've been watching. But also I do have a very comprehensive list of buddy cops. I've got buddy cop films on Letterboxd. So check that out as well.

Speaker: And until next time, y'all be cool right on.