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Toys on FIlm: The Fantastic Four: First Steps
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We're back with another addition of Toys on Film, this time talking about something pretty Fantastic... that's right! Grab a handful of popcorn from Galactus' head and feed that insatiable hunger for a conversation about the 2025 film the Fantastic Four: First Steps along with all the toys and collectibles out to support the box office smash.
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Podcast Introduction and Theme
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Are you ready, kids? Get your parents permission, check your mailbox and grab your shopping cart. It's time for the Adventures in Collecting podcast. I'm Eric.
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And I'm Dave. Welcome to Adventures in Collecting, where we talk toy news, culture and hauls, along with our journeys as collectors.
Introducing 'Toys on Film' Episode
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Hello, everybody, and welcome back to Adventures in Collecting.
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Toys on Film. It is Toys on Film. It is. What is it, Dave? Toys on Film. Toys on Film. That's right.
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Toys on Film.
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Toys on Film. It only took us long enough to...
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It is another episode of Toys on Film.
Main Topic Announcement: Fantastic Four
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um It is a busy, busy month in terms of um of films that have toy implications to them. And we didn't even talk about Jurassic World, but maybe one day we'll circle back to that.
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um i haven't seen Jurassic World. So I saw it. We'll circle back to it at it at a later date, Joey. Let's do it right now. Your candy pants. No, instead, we're going to do something fantastic. ah We're going to do Fantastic Four First Steps.
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um So that is going to be the topic on of ah this episode's Toys on Film. ah But little tiny bit of housekeeping, I guess, um before we get
Energy Drink Controversy and Humor
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started.
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ah Dave is, of course, murdering his thirst with ah what what flavor do we got today, Dave? ah a cherry Cherry obituary. Nice. Nice.
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Nice. Little forward to the energy drink one that's coming. did you Did you guys see the thing about the the energy your energy drink like ah um controversy today?
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yeah. oh yeah So high noon had to issue a recall because they also they also produce Celsius like the energy drink. Apparently they canned a bunch of high noon and Celsius cans.
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It's kind of like finding a golden ticket. one If anything, Celsius is going to cost more than the high noon. Yeah, yeah, that's actually very true, too. But but imagine imagine like the like, sir, you're you're you've you've blown a full point over the legal limit. what where have you Have you had anything to drink today?
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Yes. Three cans of Celsius. going No, like you wouldn't be. You'd be tired. Not. Yeah. Yeah. freak out Also, like It would taste, it I mean, High Noon tastes very different from Celsius. But yes, I i am excited for um the energy drink, the Liquid Death energy drink. What are they calling it?
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Do you know yet? Liquid Death. ah No, but I mean like the, it doesn't have like a sub brand. No. Liquid Death, hit us up. let us Let us get ah not like first in. It's not like it's like mountain water or so like you know even the iced tea is just iced tea. like It's the Liquid Death.
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it's just going to be like Liquid Death Energy or something. Yeah. Okay, got it, got it, got it.
Podcast Housekeeping and Humor
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um Yeah, so a little bit of housekeeping. So um you're hearing this on Monday.
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We were at SummerSlam. yesterday, even though we haven't been there yet, but i expect news coming out of SummerSlam of some kind, whether that's a premium toyetic event or or otherwise.
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it was great to see everybody that came and said hi at GCW hit them up. Thank you. Yep. To everybody. um So we're talking Friday, two days from now. We're talking to you about the past from the future, from the perspective of the present.
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all right yeah it's like it's kind of like moving an egg across the room you see what i did there see what i did there oh and it was good to see everybody emo fight as well i stopped by emo fight um yeah so uh expect expect some news coming out of that um yeah uh I think that's it for housekeeping this time. There will be a new giveaway that's live at this point. But again, from the past present, I don't know what that giveaway is yet.
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It will be announced on August 1st, which is ah couple days after. what we do know is it is not SummerSlam related. Yeah, it is not. It's not wrestling related. we'll We'll go with that. Or maybe it is.
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don't know. I don't know. Life is hard right now. Um, There will be a giveaway, though, and it's cool. We have a bunch of cool stuff lined up. I just don't know what cool thing August is. i got ah There's a spreadsheet somewhere.
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But, yeah, back to the task at hand, toys on film.
Review of Fantastic Four First Steps
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um So, yeah, we all saw ah Fantastic Four First Steps, and, um yeah, we're we're excited to talk about it. i What a month for brightly colored ah superhero films.
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Oh, it feels so good. it's just feels so good. As the kids say, we're we're back, right? we're We're so back. Well, that's been happening in the um MCU for years.
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Yeah, but this one in particular, I mean, like... This was this was a a love letter to Jack Kirby and like the 1960s, like for different for sure that we were. Yeah.
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Yeah. Oh, yeah. So they've got that out of the way real quick. So. um Oh, yeah. Of course. Spoiler alert. We are going to be talking about elements of the movie. Oh, yeah. If you haven't seen the movie yet, it's been.
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Like three weeks, almost. two weeks no two weeks by the time this airs it'd be about two two weeks in a couple days oh yeah it's okay it only came out last thursday so yeah it'll so much is going on i don't yes anymore but yeah spoiler alert um we will be talking about the movie in its entirety so if you do not want to be spoiled um pause this come back later but definitely come back don't forget to come back the coming back part is important um
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But yeah, so ah they they get that out of the way real quick, right? Movie movie starts up and we immediately know we're on what? I think they said like it was like Earth 686 or something like that. It was eight yeah it was like 868 or 886. I it's 868. Yeah, 868.
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Yeah. Jack Kirby's birthday. Ah, that's right. So speaking of the goat, Jack Kirby, like I said, this is a love letter to Jack Kirby. There was a nice little Jack Kirby um cameo of sorts, I guess you could say, in in the movie, which I thought was and really cool. And Stan Lee.
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Yes. um Yeah. 828. There we go. Yeah. um So for those that might are more maybe are more DC oriented, obviously, i'm not obviously Earth 616 is like main Earth.
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um That's where the majority of the MCU has taken place thus far. You know, all kind of the Infinity Saga, all that stuff. um And even in the comics, 616 is the That is like the main Earth, main story storyline Earth. So we know right off the bat that um that we are in a in a different Earth, which explains a lot of things that we saw and have been seeing in the trailers. you know, New York looks like a vastly different New York.
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The only other Earth we've seen is ah one zero zero zero five. which is Fox. Yeah, Fox is Earth. Well, we also saw that the alternate Earth and multiverse of madness where, you know, council of, you know, with the, you know, the body and all that. But they didn't give it I don't know. Yeah, don't.
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Declared a name. Yeah. No, I don't think they have stab. They established because there were so many different Earths that they went to in that um in that movie. um But yeah, before before I came to bargain.
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before Before we jump full in, do we have, Dave, do we have any stats per do have any stats prepared for ah for Fantastic Four? We do. We do. um So Fantastic Four, the Fantastic Four First Steps, a Marvel Studios film ah directed by Matt Shackman, um who you would know as a director of a lot of Um, sitcoms, mostly, uh, most famously, it's always sunny in Philadelphia. Um, screenplay by Josh Friedman, Eric Pearson, Jeff Kaplan, and Ian Springer.
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um story by Eric Pearson, Jeff Kaplan, Ian Springer, and Cat Wood, um based, of course, as we mentioned, on the Fantastic Four by Stan Lee and Jack Kirby. um The stars of the film, Pedro Pascal, Vanessa Kirby, Eben Moss Bacharach, Joseph Quinn as your respective four, Julia Garner,
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as Shala Ball, Sarah Niles, Mark Gaddis, Natasha Lyonne, Paul Walter Hauser as the Mole Man, and Ralph in Innocent as Galactus.
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um It is 114 minutes long. The um known budget of the film is 200 plus million dollars. Box office as of the time of recording, um which is after its first full, I guess, week.
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yeah is uh 241.3 million dollars awesome awesome and shouts to john malkovich who uh was left on the cutting room floor yeah they mentioned his character it was it was it was a brisk film um it was a brisk 114 minutes i'm not upset that it was only 114 Oh, yeah, it was actually refreshing to not be there for a marathon because the the past few Marvel movies like in theaters, the exception of Brave New World, um have been epic, long films. So this was Thunderbolts. that long I don't remember the lengths was a bit over two hours. Was it? yeah Wow.
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Yeah, that just moved really fast. Yeah, it didn't feel like it, but it did not feel like two hours. Yeah. Um, so, yeah, i really, really, really cool. Like like we mentioned, um you know, out the gate, we are introduced to the fact that we were on an alternate Earth, um which, again, like like we were like I was saying, um clears up a lot of the confusion that people had looking at the trailer. You know, what's this going to be?
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Where is it going to take place? Why does New York look so different? um Is it the past? Is it the future? We don't. It's the time it it's the time it exists in. Yep.
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So it's definitely that retro future kind of Jetson Z vibe. um Basically, it posits like a what if you had a read a mind of Reed Richards in New York City, you know, with retro technology, right? Like one of my favorite things that they kept revisiting was anytime they showed Times Square, the giant like CRT, the TV that was you where you're used to seeing the big you know LED screen and in Times Square.
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um you know Like the monorail ah you know ripping around the city. It almost looked like like Tomorrowland at Disneyland. The monorail was like more of like like, it reminded me of the Big Bad Wolf that used to be at Busch Gardens. It was under the track.
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Yeah, yeah, it was it was a hanging hanging monorail. um But yeah, it it definitely exuded that art style and that vibe of, you know,
Character Dynamics in Fantastic Four
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ah that 1960s, you know, late 50s, 1960s retro future. Oh, I don't know if I mentioned her in the cast list, but the great Natasha Lyonne was also in the film.
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You did. and she had a very, very cool, but brief role. um i think we'll we'll talk a little bit more about her once we get into kind of the meat of the film. Um... But yeah, what what was really cool is this continues the trend of not really, you know, giving us like the backstory as part of the story.
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You know, we meet the Fantastic Four four years into being the Fantastic Four. little on nose, but sure. um So they've already established, you know, that they're they're already helping people. They've established the Future Foundation. They've established the Baxter Building.
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It's on the nose, but it it has that... you know, cheesy retro vibe to it that they would totally, that an old TV show would totally like, like Ed Sullivan would have done that.
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Yeah. and i And I love the fact, too, that we get that as kind of the frame story. Right. You know, we're introduced to the story through the lens of this universe's version of Ed Sullivan. I i forget the the um the the talk shows name, a talk show hosts name.
00:13:24
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But we're we're kicking off a celebration of the Fantastic Four four years into their um their careers. Ted Gilbert. Ted Gilbert played by Mark Gaddis.
00:13:36
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As ah you know, were we're we're getting that kind of like variety, you know, primetime special. um That's again of of the time, you know, feels feels appropriate, like something that definitely would have been on TV at that time.
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And we're told this we what you don't realize is as they're introducing you to the, you the TV special, you're then being told the story almost entirely as a flashback, um which I thought was really clever ah because it's it's a well, well guised frame story flashback, you know, very, you know, typical kind of trope of of comic books.
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Really? You know, we've also reached the point to where and I think we talked about this with Superman. um And in hindsight, Spider-Man as well.
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Like the Fantastic Four have had um two fine movies made about them and one enormous question mark.
00:14:36
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Oh, no, that movie is unwatchable. That's an unwatchable. You also have a technicality. and yeah yeah You have a technicality 1997, I want to say. the unreleased that doesn't exist. Yeah, least yeah i've I've seen the unreleased. It's a it's pretty hard to watch, but it's better than fan for stick.
00:14:57
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You fan. I saw that. I saw that on YouTube and I forget where you were. Yeah, Fan Four stick is not not that good. But, you like you know, exactly what you're saying, right? we we've seen We've seen the Fantastic Four dick around with their powers ah after they get them on repeat.
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Like if you go back and you rewatch that original Fantastic Four movie that had come out, you know, in 2000s, I would say good 45, 50 minutes is them putzing around with their powers, Reed stretching his arm out to grab toilet paper, um Johnny pranking the thing, which is fun. You know, like you want to see them kind of have that banter back and forth, but it' just like they're stuck in the Baxter building for 50 minutes. They do nothing else.
00:15:43
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Yeah. Yeah. it's And it's it's tough, right? Like, so to Dave's point, a lot of these superheroes like Superman, Spider-Man, the Fantastic Four, not only have we seen their backstory enough times at this point to a casual viewer,
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there are two things. One, if you tell the story the right way, you can kind of quickly get over how they have their powers and, you know, and be done with it, which is what they did in this. They opted to do in this film, which I thought worked very, very well.
00:16:14
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But also these characters are so ingrained in like the pop cultural zeitgeist that like enough people know. Like the things the orange guy, Mr. Fantastic is stretchy.
00:16:29
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you know, the human torch is the fireball, like a womanizing fireball, like, like, like the invisible woman is an invisible woman is an invisible woman that can also move. That also has telekinesis.
00:16:41
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Um, But yeah, it it the the characters are like well-oiled at this point. Plus like Fantastic Four, they're not called Marvel's first family for for no reason. Like they they've been around a long time. So I found that particularly refreshing as somebody who who loves like the the larger characters. So like I love the Hulk and the Thing.
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to to finally see him in a movie where like he's kind of comfortable being the Thing and he's not dealing with that whole like you know, I'm hideous.
00:17:15
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No one loves me. where He's like, ah well, he's he that that one scene where he's with ah Natasha Lyonne, right? um That one scene with her. It's not like a like ah she's not going to like me because I'm a big Rocky guy. It's more like I'm still like an awkward dweeb from this part of the city. You know, like it it was a different kind of cousin Richie. Like, come on. Yeah.
00:17:40
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ah cousin um yeah it uh it was refreshing to see them like that and like reed still dealing with being apologetic for like screwing up and not making suits that were strong enough to protect them and like you know um well you know what let's let's go let's kind of go character by character here so we' where we started talking about the thing let's let's talk about the thing for for a couple of minutes Um, so, yeah, we we talked about right how he's he's not, you know, ah dealing with his disfigurement. Right. Like the kids love him. He's picking up cars. He's picking up black and white cookies.
00:18:18
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He's cooking with Herbie. the The public isn't freaked out by him as they would be in like six one six. Yeah. And, you know, he's not he's not being like looking in the mirror. I'm a monster. You know, he's not doing his whole I'm a monster.
00:18:31
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the other thing, too, that is like they are the superheroes of this earth. Yep. They have already commanded the respect of people.
00:18:42
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There are no other superheroes on this version of Earth that we know of. Yeah, we haven't. I mean, nothing has. There's no Spider-Man of this universe. There's no, you know, it's it's kind of crazy unless there is. And it you know just turns out to be like when you watch anything else that Marvel puts out it's like, hey, where's Spider-Man? You're in New York right now.
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He's sleeping. He's he's he sees it happening. But Kingpin's allowed to take over. Yeah. Galactus is walking around. I'll sleep in today. Just just do a, you know, do a Star Wars on him. He'll be all right. Do a star. Do a Star wars Yeah. No, what they really needed was what what happened in the Fantastic Four cartoon from the 90s. Ghost Rider just pulls up, does the pen and stare at at Galactus and shuts him down in like 30 seconds.
00:19:32
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Done. um Still one of my favorite things ever. As you know, as far as Galactus goes, like. He's never really had anyone like, you know, step to him.
00:19:44
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Yeah. And one thing we've learned is even though he is Galactus and. You know, there is this. it's He's this big, you know, hungry, all powerful bead being.
00:19:58
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He's like decidedly beatable.
00:20:03
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Well, that's always been the case with Galactus, right? Like I am. I know we're hopping all over the friggin place here, but. um I'm just happy they stuck to that. Yeah. And and I like that they focused on his real story is that like his hunger is actually his curse.
00:20:19
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And you can do that in a way that like they did in this film that doesn't make you necessarily feel bad for him, because the last thing you want is like you don't want to be sympathizing with Galactus. Like, that's not the point. Right.
00:20:31
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But like, you know the the fact that. They managed to make kind of a because when you think about it, it's kind of like silly, you know, that like he was a man ask at one point and has this cosmic hunger that causes him to feed. And he just gets bigger and bigger and bigger and needs to eat bigger and more powerful things. Right. Like that's ultimately what it boils down to at the end of the day.
00:20:56
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But like the fact that like he's sitting there plugged into those machines and, you know, he's like feeding literally like feeding tubes on the cores of these planets like the lava and the magma. And like, I think they did a really good job of making it kind of like believable that it's not like he's sitting there going like im nom nom nom nom and like eating planets like he's he's breaking the planets down into energy and consuming that energy. And he does it through the ship. And like like, I just I thought that that was so well handled, especially considering the last time we had him in any sort of film. He was a goddamn cloud.
00:21:38
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Big old cloud. In fairness, they wouldn't have been able to pull that off this off then. No, but um yeah, I mean, they they absolutely crushed, no pun intended, Galactus. Like, I think they absolutely nailed that. and i think that can actually be said for all of the major players here, like between like the casting and the presentation. This is the best these characters have been pre presented um on screen. and had The one that I was kind of worried about the most was
00:22:10
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was read only because pedro pascal love him to death but like he's reaching that like said those like chris pratt levels of saturation where it's just like he's in all of the things that i watch um but he's an infinitely cooler person than chris pratt which makes it much better but like he didn't play pedro pascal in this movie and i don't know about I don't know how else to like put that without like I mean no offense to him but like he he was not his typical. But he also didn't play Din Djarin either.
00:22:45
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Yeah like he he was he was Reed Richards I mean he did down to that like 60s style like metropolitan accent that he had. Did you hear the story, though, that came out like right before the release?
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On purpose it came
Humor and Legacy in Fantastic Four
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out. It wasn't a leaked story. no, no, no. no It came out in an interview. So I think it was Feige, Kevin Feige, told the story. um Or it might have been like Pedro Pascal or Vanessa Kirby.
00:23:13
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But apparently he wanted to go like full blown, like Cary Grant, like mid-Atlantic accent. Oh, like news on the march. Yeah, he wanted to do this voice.
00:23:25
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And they were like, absolutely not. Like they weren't even like, oh, no, let's talk about it. They were like, absolutely no. No, no, no, no. I just see him in like the pitch room or like and during a read sitting there being like, we will protect you.
00:23:42
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We will protect you. What's what's the what's the family guy joke? High, high pants, high pants, fast talkers. But it was just like, like, imagine that.
00:23:52
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Are we safe? I don't know.
00:23:56
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The cost was too high. They wanted our son. he wanted us son You know, like. It's watching the episode of Johnny Quest. It's how we're like. Oh, man. Yeah. be like It would be it would have become Venture Brothers. It would have been like somewhat accurate to that quote unquote time period.
00:24:17
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Well, there was just enough of it. No, but no, that way it would have been like, yeah, he had like a metropolitan accent, a northeast accent. Yeah. But it wasn't like cranked up to 15. Yeah.
00:24:29
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No, no, no. It was like in about a four or five. It was it was noticeable enough, though, like the most the first time he opened his mouth when he's looking for the the iodine in the cabinet. I like had this like because I didn't pick up on it in the trailers, the bits of the trailers that they showed it. He just was talking.
00:24:47
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I don't want to say talking normally, but like he didn't sound different. um But like it was sound bites to not like conversations. The moment was the moment he's tell like, like okay That was that was definitely the compromise where he was like, well, I'm going to do something.
00:25:05
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And they're like, fine, you can do that. But but the thing is, it worked because he wasn't the only character that spoke like that. Right. Like, so I would say Vanessa Kirby, Joseph Quinn and. um even Moss, ah they had very like modern sounding characters like they didn't. Their characters sounded like like I mean, they're fist bumping and like they're kind of doing like modern isms.
00:25:31
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um But like the rest of the reporters, ah Paul Walter Hauser, like they had a touch of that, too. So there was a consistency with it, at least where like he wasn't the only one that had that, you know, um that kind of accent.
00:25:47
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Well, see, I thought Paul Walter Hauser just sounded like Paul Walter Hauser. He had a little bit of the like grandioseness of that. That's definitely not a word, but like he had a little little bit of that.
00:25:59
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When you're a mole man, come on. i And dude, like leaning into the lore. Progress wrestling proteus champion, Paul Walter Hauser. Yeah. king subterranean um but like i also like that it was just like here's the road sign to subterranean like you go visit yeah like but ah did you notice that it was almost like the lincoln tunnel sign so like subterranean is like new jersey no it's just the river No, I know, but like that I'm so used to seeing that sign like there that it reminded me of like, oh, so instead of going to New Jersey, you take the right tube and it takes you to Subterranean. If anything, he did his his accent was less that because it was just like, yeah, you're in my land now, fools. Yeah.
00:26:49
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But yeah, i i I loved that they leaned into the lore of of the Fantastic Four like pretty heavily. like Even that one scene when you know ah they're they're standing all on the balcony right before the Silver Surfer shows up for the first time, he name-dropped a couple of key pain-in-the-ass Fantastic Four villains. like He named like the Wizard and um i The tinkerer, I think, or the maker got a tinker. He's the maker.
00:27:20
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Yeah, the Tinkerer was at one point got mentioned. Yeah, they mentioned Red red Ghost. which is His monkey army. Yeah, his Super Apes. Super Apes. Which was John Malkovich's character.
00:27:31
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yeah i love they showed that big green you know Jack Kirby monster answerster yeah on coming out of the ground. And I'm like, oh, wow, that is that is just perfect. That's what you want to see.
00:27:43
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Those are the things you want to see right there. Yep. um Oh, Shun McGarrath? Yeah. No, no, that's ah Monstro. Schumagrath's the one-eyed octopus thing that's in ah Multiverse of Madness.
00:27:57
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um Yeah, but but they they leaned into the things that make the Fantastic Four the Fantastic Four. um And I thought, too, this was the first movie that got...
00:28:08
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the like smartest man in the universe thing. Right. With him. We're like, he's thinking the things that he should be thinking as the world's smartest man, but like not the world's best father.
00:28:22
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yeah um and he gets called out on it, which is, I think is, is fantastic. Um, I did it again. i But like, but also like even recognize it's wrong, you know?
00:28:35
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Yeah. Yeah. Which is honestly, that's what I thought this was going to be. I I fully like went into this thinking that this is actually like the origin story of the maker and we're not everything we've seen has kind of been like the first, like maybe act of the movie and it's going to take, it's going to go sideways. Once Galactus asks for the baby, like that's, i had a feeling he was going to, this was going to like position him to be effectively the new Tony. Yeah.
00:29:04
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Yeah. Yeah, right. And I think I think you're you're spot on there. um Speaking of the baby, Franklin, we've got another Omega level superhero in in the mix now. um One of the most powerful superheroes and in in the comics.
00:29:22
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ah So much so that he would have provided adequate sustenance for Galactus and ended his mission of eating planets. Well, he would have taken. Yeah, he would have taken over.
00:29:35
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He would have taken over for Galactus. Galactus would have been able to transfer his his hunger, his cosmic hunger to the the baby to a baby. Yeah. Well, it's kind of like Ghostbusters 2.
00:29:46
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Yeah. Now you go eat the planets. He's pulling a Ghostbusters 2 on him. Yeah. Yeah. No, dan no, Dana Barrett. though Vigo, the Carpathian, you know, hold the whole deal.
00:29:57
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Bring me a child so that I might live again. like yeah he's He's doing it. And meanwhile, I like how they also did the whole mob mentality thing of like, give up the baby. Like, and I'm sitting there in the theater like who would do that?
00:30:11
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And then finally, Sue did the her monologue. And yeah, it was like everyone's like, oh, yeah, I wouldn't give up the baby. Which is fan, which is, i think was to say, no I wasn't know no let's say yeah i was going to say fan service, um which was a nice moment of fan service because we comic books historically have the angry mob. Like the people are like, we trust you to save us.
00:30:42
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give up your damn baby. Like that's totally a thing that would happen in comics. And I, it was great to see the literal, almost literal like group with like pitchforks coming to their door.
00:30:55
Speaker
I, I feel like it would happen not in comics. Yeah. i mean totally. If yeah, um somebody, somebody would have, somebody would have strapped that, that baby to a rocket and launched it at that Galactus. Yeah.
00:31:07
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they take them it would have been very lo it would have been very looney tunes like yeah and then it did did did dan it did it then and that's the people in uh who who drew like the tunnel on the side of the building yeah he crashed it too yeah but that was that that was a great monologue i i honestly think vanessa kirby probably stole the movie for me um I've never been a big like invisible woman fan.
00:31:37
Speaker
I obviously appreciate her and and her role in the fantastic four, but like I left this movie absolutely loving that character. um From, from that, that's that monologue that she gives to the fact that like, I love the relationship she has with her brother, with, with Reed.
00:31:57
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um It's just, she was so well, well, like developed in, in this, in this movie, she wasn't just like, you know, deus ex invisible.
00:32:12
Speaker
And there was a little bit of that too, where it was like, Hey, make us invisible for 30 seconds, which is fine. I mean, that's her superpower. I also liked how they were like, yeah, Johnny, you go listen to your records. We will take care of the the big people stuff here. The adults are talking Johnny.
00:32:28
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Yeah, his... He's like, no,
Character Analysis: Johnny and Sue Storm
00:32:30
Speaker
I can think... can help. Joseph Quinn was great. he was a great human torch. And and there they they balance that really well of still making him, like like Silver Surfer shows up and it's like...
00:32:43
Speaker
Bro, stop trying to bang the silver surfer. You know, like like they they call him out on it like almost immediately, which is hilarious because and little touches to like the fact that he was he has the suntan lotion um billboard where like the puppies like pulling down the back of his pants sort of. that What is that? That's Coppertone, right? Yeah. So like a Coppertone ask ad like he was still he's still very clearly like the heartthrob of the group.
00:33:09
Speaker
But um I love that they have their own cartoon. They had like it's it was done so well. Say the thing. Yeah. Say the thing. like and last day i don't I don't do that.
00:33:21
Speaker
Just the cartoon. He he was he was so good. But yeah. But yeah. Everybody is so good. So just so um you know, Johnny had some really key moments in the in the film, um like throughout.
00:33:34
Speaker
And usually he's like cypher. Yeah, yeah, he he figured out Shalabal's language. um You know, he... ah There's a really, like like, hard right, like, turn in in the movie, in that one scene when they're when they're in the ah the spaceship together. And she's like, east she's trying to kill your your nephew.
00:33:58
Speaker
Go kill her. Yeah, right. And he's like, okay. And, you know you got Ben just... Your girlfriend's here. Yeah. ah Love that. Love that.
00:34:10
Speaker
you I mean, the thing with with this movie and what they didn't do in any of the other movies, in my opinion, and maybe I'm missing something when I might have to go back and rewatch, but they never really...
00:34:24
Speaker
touched on that Johnny is yeah, he may be, you know, he's a ladies man, he's this, he's that and the other thing. But he's also and he's a ah hothead, but he is smart. Well, he he and you see that in the comics, you see that in in other in other forms. But a lot of the times when they do these characters, whether it's cartoons or, you know, the other films, like they didn't really make him.
00:34:48
Speaker
Like that smart. Yeah, they strip them all down to one dimension, right? They didn't do that here. Like everybody here has something and like Sue is is is the leader. I find her to be the the leader of the Fantastic Four um and in this case as well. Like usually everyone's like, it's Reed, Mr. Fantastic. He's the he's the brain. He's the leader. He's the Sue is like overall.
00:35:11
Speaker
Yeah, she's the one that's keeping them all in check. That's that's. exactly And I thought that was really, really clever because again, like, you know, historically, right? Like you got the muscle, you got the the flying hothead, you have the brain and then you have the like.
00:35:27
Speaker
She does shield shield basically. Right. Like, phone yeah. And this giving the characters a little more dimension and giving them more to kind of chew on story wise, like even like, you know, some of the like softest, like most tender moments in the film happen with the thing who is like visually the roughest, uh,
00:35:53
Speaker
You like even like when he's using an angle grinder to shave to like, you know, his beard, prevent his beard from growing in. and you know, Johnny says to him, like, I'll let it grow and it looks great. He's like, really?
00:36:05
Speaker
OK. Or like that one scene when he's holding Franklin and he's talking about like, you know, you know, they say you should sleep when the baby sleeps. At least that's that's what happened in the book I read. You know, like he's doing like the fun uncle stuff and like he's like he's like a big like softy on the inside. Tasting the sauce.
00:36:24
Speaker
Yep. Cooking with Herbie, trying not to offend Herbie. Right. He's like he's like you're throwing a little more garlic. Not because it tastes bad, just because a little more kick, you know, like he he is like.
00:36:36
Speaker
he he is the softy of the group on the inside. And I feel like that that that was never really explored in in other versions of it. And, you know, it just makes him such a much more interesting character. And that being said, I really hope they get rid of the beard.
00:36:52
Speaker
forward It was great. it was a great moment in this movie. But let's he looks so great without the beard. Dave, I love beards, but but he was actually wearing clothes in this one.
00:37:06
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Yeah. Going back to Fan 4 Stick. yeah he has Yeah. They all had those sweet turtlenecks. Yeah, they all had sweet turtlenecks. He wasn't just nude. He just wasn't a giant nude rock man.
00:37:18
Speaker
Yeah, he had shoes too. I thought that that was interesting. Yeah, he had boots. Yeah, he had
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00:37:29
Speaker
I'm like, okay, so there's a dude in a suit. They overlaid, you know, some CGI stuff on it, but there's like an actual guy in a full thing costume, which is pretty awesome. For some of the scenes for reference.
00:37:40
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Silver Surfer and Visual Effects
00:38:43
Speaker
Yeah, i think they still do that for and Dave, correct me if I'm wrong, because, you know, a little bit more about this than I do. But they do that for ah line of sight to make sure that like if characters are talking to each other, they know approximate height. Like the famous example is I'm at best.
00:39:01
Speaker
Yeah. um With the thing on top of his head, with the Jar Jar head on top of his head. Yeah. For for height purposes. So everyone knows where to where to look, where to look. um Yeah, so ah the one character we didn't really talk about yet is ah is Silver Surfer, so Shalabal.
00:39:19
Speaker
i Awesome, awesome execution. i loved, I know some people were a little like hesitant on the effect, and it speak You know, some of the the visual effects in Marvel movies in recent years have not been as good as they were, you know, a few years ago. Like they look a little bit rougher. I thought this looked fancy fantastic. I'm just going to say it.
00:39:45
Speaker
Yeah. yeah i thought this was some of the best effects that they've had and in years. Yeah. I just recently rewatched like all the MCU, the whole the whole thing from timeline order. And got to Ant-Man three and you're just like, OK, here we are. And M.O.D.O.K. shows up on your screen and you get that jump scare.
00:40:09
Speaker
And, yeah you know, but then you you see this and you're like, OK, yeah, this is this is great. can still do it. Yeah. you You can still do the thing. Yeah, there i mean, there are two aspects of this movie that are historically have been tough to like sell visually.
00:40:26
Speaker
Silver Surfer being one of them. It's just a tough visual. No. And I would I would say in Reed's stretchiness. You know, not making that look like goofy, um especially when he's like bounding between things like, you know, and like you got just an arm being stretchy or like, you know, when Galactus was torturing him, that was like brutal to watch.
00:40:50
Speaker
Yeah. And I think it's if at least in the movies, it's the first time his like his power was actively used like against him. I thought he was going to like fling him.
00:41:01
Speaker
i was Yeah, i was I was waiting for the rubber band shot. Yeah. I mean, he effectively did when he gets it. I guess that would have made Galactus a little funny, which. Yeah. Yeah, true. But I i did. like I did like, you know, ah how they they executed on all that. And yeah we were talking about this a little bit beforehand, but they did. um They did change Jalabal's story a little bit for this ah this universe.
00:41:26
Speaker
i um I'm I'm going I'm going to draw on memory here, but I think it is originally in the Earth X ah storyline is when Galactus turns her into a into a surfer. um i i I believe that's correct.
00:41:41
Speaker
But ah typically, typically she is young empress that is i either engaged to or betrothed to. um Noren Rad, who is the the male surfer, and he is an astronomer, scientist on his home planet, and he gives up himself to Galactus to become a herald to save his planet. So we got a little bit of that story mixed in, um you know, with Shalabal, of course, her being depicted as the scientist and sacrificing herself for her planet.
00:42:16
Speaker
Yeah. So it was just interesting to see it, you know, kind of a combination of the two characters. i don't think it you know it didn't ruin anything for me. i don't think it ruined the story. If anything, I think it created a ah pretty sweet parallel between her and Sue.
00:42:30
Speaker
um And for people that might be concerned that this has like an implication on, you know, Noren Rad's involvement at some point, you know, and having the other surfer. That's what you have a multiverse for, right?
00:42:43
Speaker
um Maybe there's another surfer out there. I mean, with this movie and i was talking my friend was like, can I go see? like He's seen every Marvel movie, too. But he's like, does this kind of like stand on its own? And I said, I really think so. Like, even if you if you never saw the first movie, you didn't yeah do homework for.
00:43:02
Speaker
Yeah, if you if you never saw any of the other MCU stuff, you could go into Fantastic Four. Now, obviously, you know, they're they're coming back for yeah for Doomsday. Like it says the Fantastic Four will be back in Avengers Doomsday. So, yeah, now you're going to have to do your homework if you're go to if you're going to want to jump into
MCU Connections and Future Speculations
00:43:19
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that.
00:43:20
Speaker
But for the most part, if it's like if you're just a Fantastic Four fan, you're like, yeah, I could i could go see this and and be fine. Yep. Yep. I honestly think if yeah if you're just a like an action movie fan, like that like to to to what Dave just said, you know, this is the first one in a while that you don't you don't have to do any homework for. it You could go into this completely blind.
00:43:43
Speaker
and And I mean, that was that was evident with um my youngest. So Maddie's watched them all like she's old enough to, you know, remember parts of like kind of where things fit and everything.
00:43:55
Speaker
But like Callie's four, you know, like. What does she know? You know, like in terms of like remembering where characters fit in and timelines and multiverse, like that is so beyond the comprehension of a four year old. Right.
00:44:08
Speaker
And she loved this movie. Absolutely loved it. um Couldn't stop talking about it, you know, for the for the rest of the day. We we we caught a ah kind of an earlier show.
00:44:18
Speaker
But like she was like, I love the orange guy. i love the baby. And the big guy was scary. And it's like, that's it. That's the whole movie. Like, you got it. You nailed it, kid.
00:44:29
Speaker
um But yeah, you could you could go in totally cold. Totally, totally cold to this. If anything, I think this makes a good, like, re-entry point. Oh, yeah.
00:44:40
Speaker
To the MCU. And we haven't had one of those and in again in ah in a while where like you could watch this and not and you not have to worry about like, well, who's this guy? Why is why is he here? Why are why does the why do they care about this?
00:44:54
Speaker
And you don't have to do six months of research to watch a Marvel movie. I just getting to be honest. I honestly think like even Thunderbolts, you get away with. yeah i You don't really need to know who any of them were before in that other than that they're there.
00:45:10
Speaker
I guess they do enough to establish Yelena and her dad as I don't know. I don't know. i don't know if I agree with that. There's a lot happening there that you have to That you don't, that you're not thinking.
00:45:26
Speaker
And why, well you know, now he's a senator, like, like he was a hero. i They do and kind of touch down, but not, not to the point where it's like you care about, you wouldn't care about any of that stuff.
00:45:37
Speaker
And why does Julia Louis, Louis Dreyfus have the amount of power that she has? Like, who cares? Like there's, there's a lot happening there that you need some context for. um Like, I think a smart, yeah like ah above average,
00:45:54
Speaker
moviegoer could put enough together to to figure that out. But like, I would say like your average, your average, like casual moviegoer is going to be confused to all hell watching that movie.
00:46:06
Speaker
um Fair. Yeah. That being said, you know, we started off with saying we're back right now. Now I'm thinking about it. I count Thunderbolt summer, you know, this in the summer movie yeah listing. Right. So yeah, Thunderbolts, Superman, Fantastic Four. Right.
00:46:24
Speaker
Thunderbolts is mental health matters. Love it. Yep. You have been saved by the power of your friendship. Um, Superman kindness is punk. Yep. Like you're, you're there.
00:46:36
Speaker
Fantastic four family and community. We need all these things. We know need these superhero movies now more than ever. We need these superhero movies to be this way.
00:46:47
Speaker
Um, yeah, um I, I, I think my superhero fatigue was the drab, um like just completely sad sack things like just depressing. Everything is dying. Everything is dying and bleak. And now we have all of this coming back into, you know, into the light. and Okay, good.
00:47:09
Speaker
I need it. That's okay. The next movie is called Doomsday. without Nothing bad is going to happen. Nobody's going to die. and the other thing too is like, you know, you have women in, in,
00:47:20
Speaker
high role or a high league leadership roles in both of these movies. All three of them. Lois, super strong character. um Obviously, Yelena and Ghost, i you know, both of them extremely strong characters. And honestly, like, you know, your your main villain really in that movie is Julia Louis-Dreyfus, Madame Hydra. So, yeah. She's basically like...
00:47:50
Speaker
high ranking official. Yeah. yeah And then, you know, obviously in, in, in this movie, you know, you're, there, there's no, there's no stronger power than a mother's love.
00:48:01
Speaker
Well, then you have Lynn, Lynn Nichols is the CEO of the Baxter, the Baxter for the future foundation, future foundation. Yep. Yep. And I, I like the little nod, you know, they, they, when they're showing the, the future foundation, which Sarah Niles great too.
00:48:17
Speaker
Like, yep. when they're showing the future foundation, they're showing all the countries that are a part of it Let Latveria is ah no show is empty. the The seat at Latveria is empty.
00:48:28
Speaker
and i That got an audible in the theater I was in that got an audible like, ooh, because I saw I saw it on on that Friday. So opening. So, ah yeah, that that the theater got it, and gave a nice little audible.
00:48:43
Speaker
and Me too. That's part of it. um And then speaking of Latveria, we get our first ah official look at ah at the MCU's Doctor Doom. yeah Yeah. At the end of the movie. and Back turned.
00:48:56
Speaker
In our first of two s stingers i of of the... ah the the credits, right? um A flash forward, I believe this was six years this time, if I remember correctly. Yes. um So ah Franklin is now a ah is now a toddler. um No, that wasn't six years. I thought that was another four.
00:49:19
Speaker
Oh, so before the credits roll, it went to their sixth year where they're messing with the car seat or they went to their fifth. No, I think the fifth year messing with the car seat. And then it went to it it was a year after Galactus. Yeah.
00:49:31
Speaker
And then another four was the stinger with. Yeah. With dr yeah Dr. D. Yeah. So we get, you know, a teleportation of Dr. Doom into the the living room of the Fantastic Four interacting with Franklin.
00:49:47
Speaker
and i And Sue is on guard. And that's that's ah it ends with that. So he's got his mask off and in one hand, and he's got his other hand on on Franklin.
00:49:58
Speaker
and ah Well, here's the here's the question. Do they know who it is? Right. That's the big question. Apparently that actually was Robert Downey Jr. Because, like, you know, Victor Von Doom is...
00:50:18
Speaker
part of like their crew basically yeah and i mean in in this case in this backstory obviously he's not right like we because we do get the backstory or a or a glimmer a glimpse of the backstory you know that they're all professionally trained astronauts and they're they're going to space right um and there was no there was no victor von doom on the team person yep so um I mean, it does it does seem like, you know, they are wholeheartedly going with some sort of. um
00:50:52
Speaker
you know, subversive or or different ah backstory for Doom. You know, they're not giving him his classic backstory, which is a gamble in my book. I mean, that's he's one of the big, you know I would say probably the top five um Marvel villains.
00:51:09
Speaker
um And to give him a backstory that's not doesn't line up with his classic one is is certainly a choice. But um you know, I guess trust the process, right? You know, most most of most of this storytelling has been, if nothing else, fun. um You know, I love Robert Downey Jr. do Did do I think they needed to complicate the backstory of Dr. Doom on the surface. No, but these aren't my movies. I'm, I'm here a lot. I'm, I'm just along for the ride.
00:51:42
Speaker
So I have to imagine that they have something planned. We do have something. and We do have other things before, uh, Doomsday. So we've got Mr. One, Mr. Uh, what is that? Uh, well, a year from now we have Spider-Man. Wonder-Man. Thank you.
00:52:00
Speaker
Wonder-Man
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00:52:01
Speaker
is December. wonder man i think is the next um live action thing we've got eyes of wakanda is up next that's like zombies that's like in august i believe um this month then uh the zombies is in october um and then wonder man is in december of the year yeah december um again the season two before before spider-man day ah know but Oh, yeah, before Spider-Man.
00:52:31
Speaker
You're right. Because it's March. Yep. Vision Quest, who knows? Right.
00:52:40
Speaker
I do feel like wednesday with you know Tony Stark being or you know Robert Downey Jr. being Doom, you are going to get that emotional level from the people who knew.
00:52:51
Speaker
Oh, yeah. like Especially if if if Peter does see... Tony under that man like if it's going to happen, like they have to make that happen. It's going to be a gut punch.
00:53:05
Speaker
And so.
00:53:09
Speaker
Apparently there was like a storyline in the comics and i i don't read everything and I can only follow so much, but apparently there was a storyline in the comics where like Dr. Doom borrowed somebody else's face like it was like literally like a ah ploy face off scenario.
00:53:25
Speaker
Yeah. So people are thinking maybe this is the case and this he's not actually Robert dan like Robert Downey Jr. is playing the character almost like a um fantastic piece and where to find them situation.
00:53:38
Speaker
Right. Where like, you know, Colin Farrell, um you know, pulls off a mask and it's Johnny Depp underneath sort of thing. um That it could be something like that, which makes sense. I mean, he's you know, he does have those those sort of like magic abilities um in the comics.
00:53:59
Speaker
So maybe maybe that's the case. Maybe he's doing it to, you know. Possibly. To manipulate. It's very, very, very possible. But um yeah. And then and then the last stinger at the very end of the movie um was the amazing.
00:54:16
Speaker
ah intro to the the 60s era ah Fantastic Four TV show. um With the cartoon. I need them to make that into like shorts.
00:54:32
Speaker
I would imagine that Disney Plus, that would be so amazing. And one other thing to shout out, um Michael Giacchino did the the score for this. Absolutely crushed it.
00:54:44
Speaker
The theme that like Fantastic Four theme with like the choral part in it that like very like, boom, boom, boom, theme that kind of like we're going to talk about the song that I would imagine is just the Galactus cult.
00:55:00
Speaker
if That played over credits? Oh, yes. Yeah. Yeah. Which I thought was another funny touch funny touch. We didn't even get into that. But, like, Galactus is coming. So, of course, a crazy cult form. cult A cult forms around him.
00:55:16
Speaker
we didn't even talk about how... of course, make a song asking to be devoured. Right. And we didn't even talk about how great of a choice, like, Ralph in Innocent is for... Galactus like that. Apparently that was a law. That was a practical suit, too.
00:55:31
Speaker
but I saw the pictures of that. yeah I just his tweet was like 10 year old me is screaming right now. Yeah, yeah, he he was he was excellent. He was excellent.
00:55:42
Speaker
um The voice, so even if they didn't capture his face as the likeness, that voice alone for Galactus is just. I wouldn't be surprised if this is one of those situations like.
00:55:54
Speaker
like when Matthew Lillard played Shaggy in the live action Scooby Doo movie and then like became the voice of him in the animated thing. Like, I wouldn't be surprised if they're like.
00:56:06
Speaker
You're kind of Galactus now for forever here, just collect this, he collect these royalties. There was a surprise if any animated stuff happens, that it's not like everybody who is in this.
00:56:20
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. I feel like everybody would kind of play ball. Well, you know, until they're 90. Yeah. yeah Until you're 90. There is a theory that one of my friends read, too, that when they pushed Galactus through the portal, that somehow it actually jettisoned him into the mainline universe. And that's going to be a a talking point as well. Like, ah, shit. Well, remember. Now we got this thing.
00:56:48
Speaker
that's a great That's a great point. Because remember, we don't know... where that goes, where that that portal was supposed to move Earth. So he went to wherever they were moving, planning on moving Earth to.
00:57:01
Speaker
So, yeah, that's a very solid point. And we we did see some sort of Fantastic Four vehicle coming into play at the end of Thunderbolts. We don't know. It's a different looking for.
00:57:15
Speaker
Yep. It's a slightly different looking vehicles, different looking for. So we don't know. There's a lot of there's a lot of unknowns floating out there right now. But um what what isn't unknown are the really cool action figures that have been made for ah for this film already.
00:57:34
Speaker
um This was cool because it was it was very much so um entering into throwback territory where We had new figures on shelves before the movie came out, like available.
00:57:48
Speaker
It's been a while since that has been the case, especially with with Hasbro and just kind of like the timing of things. So I have a picture of them up on screen here, but I actually have them in hand. So I'll switch over.
00:57:59
Speaker
ah So that way you guys can see I can show them off in hand, but starting off with. with the thing so good great these figures are um all new new sculpts new tooling um there is no reuse on these they are like each one of them is a brand new figure from from top to bottom uh and it shows you know there there's just so much detail like even all of the little like I was going to say, it would have to be the suits are... That's not painted. That's actually, like, ah molded in there. All of, like, just, like, the little buckles and things.
00:58:39
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um And they feel really nice. And like that that blue pastel is, like, is captured, like, perfectly on these. so So, Thing. um You've got Johnny.
00:58:51
Speaker
Yeah, I like the blue that they went with. And he's got a nice little... like... updated flame effect so we've seen these effect pieces before on other on other uh Marvel Legends but this has a little bit of extra deco on it there's a little bit of extra um paint um and even like down to their hands like the hands are not reused because they're these gloves like the and they have to have the dual texture so he's got like the rubber insides on on on his gloves um so you get uh and then of course the Human Torch version
00:59:27
Speaker
I like that one a lot and all of that detail on the suit carries over so like it's it's all it's all in there um you get all alternate hands I love that he's got like the fire on his feet and stuff um but yeah great use of of translucent plastic on him um you've got the invisible woman great Vanessa Kirby likeness too yeah it looks better there than it does in that picture Yeah.
00:59:57
Speaker
Yeah, when you see it in person like that, it's... Yeah, even on, like, the um the portrait and stuff of her. Like, it just... They did a really good job. and then ah And then you've got...
01:00:10
Speaker
Pedro Pascal, Mr. Fantastic. I don't have them handy, but um but the ah the arms do come off and they give you bendy wire arms.
01:00:21
Speaker
I love it. That you can plug in um that work really well. I actually took a really funny picked family photo of them on Instagram and i I swapped just this arm out and I had it around Sue's shoulder like...
01:00:34
Speaker
off like around like around the other two. She's on the other end. Yes. Yeah. i Yeah. Again, though, like and they all ah all the suits are slightly different. So like you can see he's got, you know, the white versus the all blue.
01:00:52
Speaker
They even have their ah their wrist communicators on. That's awesome. Yeah. that like like im Like this most 60s, but not turtlenecks.
01:01:03
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Yeah, yeah. and then um And then the final figure is Shalabal. So, really good. um Again, likeness on her.
01:01:15
Speaker
It's a little softer just because of the ah the deco, but it it definitely looks like her. The board even has like those like scrapes that were on them in the in the film. like It's not like a purely...
01:01:28
Speaker
like almost gives it that like um metallic look. And she's got a really cool actually stand that comes with hers as well um that I didn't even know came with it. I didn't notice it in any of the pictures, but it's this really neat.
01:01:45
Speaker
Oh, cool. Stand and the um the board actually her surfing over over fire. Yep. So you get a really cool effect with that. There's a single peg on the board so you can port her on.
01:02:01
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But um yeah, so that's Hasbro's offering ah you know in terms of Fantastic Four. And then, ah of course, Hot Toys, not far behind them.
01:02:15
Speaker
um No Herbie. i I thought for sure Herbie would be like a Build-A-Figure or something in this in the set, but um no Herbie yet. So I'm i'm hoping they they come back with the success of the film. I'm hoping they come back and get us herbie but uh you can get mr fantastic and herbie um there's also ah a non-deluxe that's just mr fantastic um hot toys always just maybe one of those like you know hasbro waves where it's like everything they missed into one wave would be cool like in a like an mcu catch-all um like those disney plus waves
01:02:55
Speaker
Unless you get a baby Franklin and a Herbie together in a Hasbro pack. that would work. um And give me, you know what? Put them with Mole Man. Make it a deluxe. Or give me another thing with the turtleneck.
01:03:09
Speaker
With clothes? Yeah. With the jacket? No, and not the jacket because he wear give me give me bearded thing with the ah I want I want a hat.
01:03:21
Speaker
Oh, clothes thing street clotheslings would be awesome, too. Yeah. um I always think of that as like the Raphael disguise. ah So you could get again, you can get standard um hot toys, Sue Storm, or you can get the deluxe and she comes with baby Franklin, the um the the pram and ah and Herbie again.
01:03:43
Speaker
So you'll end up with two Herbys. ah This is what i was talking about. Give me give me this version of of the thing. But give me but give me the one with the beard, because that's the way he looks at the end of the movie is this turtleneck with the beard.
01:03:56
Speaker
Just two heads. Yeah. But yeah, I love this. This whole look for him. ah Super cool. So um and then. 28 inch.
01:04:09
Speaker
ah I forget what they're actually calling this. It's not soft vinyl, but um it's not like a fully articulated Hot Toys figure. It's just a really tall sort of articulated Hot Toys. What's this, like grand?
01:04:21
Speaker
No, it's actually not that bad because it's not um it's not a like super articulated or cloth goods. So I want to say it's like 300 or something like that.
01:04:33
Speaker
I mean, for that, that's not bad. Jeez. Which is kind of cool because, like, realistically speaking, ah who knows as bro who knows if Hasbro is ever going to tackle this, right? um So at 28 inches tall, I'm trying to trying to see. I don't have anything anywhere near as big as that. But, like, you know, this is a six-inch action figure, so...
01:05:03
Speaker
What is that? Somebody help me with the math. What's 28 divided by six? Think of. Was that six of these four four four five?
01:05:14
Speaker
It's almost five. yeah almost five of these on top of each other. It's not going to be perfect scale. um That would be a big ass Galactus if it needed to scale to this. I mean, that would be bigger. Hot toys is.
01:05:31
Speaker
So this isn't meant to scale at the hot toys. It actually comes with these micro figures that are to scale. Oh, man, if you if they tried to scale this with the one six scale. it to the house yeah just see yeah It would just be gigantic.
01:05:46
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Like it would be because think about it. I mean, he's got Reed stretched between, you know, his hands and he's like looks like a rubber band. So like.
01:05:57
Speaker
even even to scale for these guys, you're probably looking at, like, feet tall. like That's going to be the pull quote. Dave doesn't know how big our toys are.
01:06:10
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um But yeah, so i'm I'm deeply considering this as, like, a display piece to go with... um With the Fantastic Four, because who knows if Hasbro is going to... I mean, they revisited the Sentinel for X-Men 97, so maybe they'll redeco and revisit this. It's close enough.
01:06:30
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Is it, though? no i mean like the whole face and the there's like so much detail and yeah i mean they changed a lot they changed a lot of the sentinel they they didnt barely reused anything if if anything on that x-men 97 sentinel so um and they sold a lot galactuses so um but yeah this is an option for people if uh If you um don't have the HasLab Galactus and you want something to go with your ah your MCU Marvel Legends.
01:07:04
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And then speaking of Galactus, we've got the one of three ah popcorn buckets. So this has got the light up eyes.
01:07:14
Speaker
dollars And it's huge, though. And it's enormous. It is massive. It's uh this miss mr po fantastic popcorn bucket i did get to see this one in person um it's hilarious he's the handle so you just grab you grab on to mr fantastic and uh get a handful of fantastic huh and you get some fantastic popcorn um and then for our final uh do you happen to have the cup i don't have the cup
01:07:45
Speaker
Don't actually. Yeah, I've never actually seen the cup, I don't think. But for our final ah popcorn bucket. Yeah.
01:07:54
Speaker
yeah Look at guy. Look at him. Look at him. He's so adorable. I love this thing. um Having this in the theater. I thank God we went to a 1045 show.
01:08:06
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There was nobody sitting next to me. So I got to put my child in the free seat next to me. And he just sat there and he watched the movie. This thing is this thing is fantastic. no Once again, no pun intended. but It's really hard to not say. It is. It's really hard to to not say the word fantastic.
01:08:23
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But like it it has so much to it, though. like It's got articulation in the in the arms for no reason. and's good It's got the hand articulation. You can put candy in his chest.
01:08:36
Speaker
Candy pants meet candy chest. Yeah, candy pants meet candy chest. I mean, I probably could store other stuff just... right Is that where you that's where you're supposed to put the popcorn? You're supposed to put the popcorn inside of this, like that, and then somehow jam your adult-sized hand in there. This is for children.
01:08:54
Speaker
this is it the This is not for an adult to stick his his or her hand into. Even my wife was like, I couldn't even put my hand in there. Yeah, know. They also really, really, you know, they want you to put drink...
01:09:11
Speaker
inside of his head. um Does his head come off to clean it? Yes. ah yeah the The head spins off. It actually comes detached like that.
01:09:23
Speaker
But I couldn't imagine putting a drink inside of this, even just in the cleaning in general. How does that not mess up the like the... Because it's not connected to anything else.
01:09:35
Speaker
correct Correct. Yeah, like all the electronics. But his eye, like the electronics are in his eye. It's all separate, though, like inside... that's like has like a piece of something like there's a piece of plastic in there to block any electronics supposedly yeah right like i'm not gonna put a drink in here that's just not gonna happen i ain't putting drink in there if i had that either but it does have little things like you know you hit this button you can't see it obviously but this light in here is actually a projector it projects the i don't think it's gonna work
01:10:06
Speaker
I could see. Yeah, there you go. Oh, there you go. It projects the Fantastic Four So Herbie's Herbie's eye projects the Fantastic Four. OK. And then he has another button and he just plays the theme.
01:10:20
Speaker
Yeah, I can imagine you getting this for your children and them doing it in the theater. Yeah, just sang it. Yeah, that's I'm sure that I'm sure that went over really well on like the matinee viewing.
01:10:33
Speaker
Oh, yeah. Like imagine filling that thing up with like cookie dough bites, popcorn and a ginger ale. Right. Be honest, though. ten year Ten year old us were putting candy in that thing.
01:10:43
Speaker
No way. Candy and kind and popcorn. i I don't know if 10 year old me is brave enough to put a beverage in there. Plus, like, I think I could put a cup inside, like open that up and throw a cup in there and then just have a cup there.
01:10:58
Speaker
But I would never put the actual liquid inside yeah into Herbie's head. um Too much respect for Herbie to do that. Exactly. I mean, in all this thing, after it was all said and done, at AMC has seltzer.
01:11:13
Speaker
deskup saucester um After everything was said and done, like after tax, it was like $86. So you maybe the you you have spent in the last month, you have spent a hundred over $100 on popcorn boxes.
01:11:26
Speaker
Yeah, just shut up.
01:11:31
Speaker
well i say i say over because i know you got two for superman right you got the no i only got the only the dog bowl okay so just well no no or no wait yep i got the dog bowl i forgot about the dog bowl and the newspaper and the newspaper dispenser yep yeah over a hundred dollars um that's like yeah that's like a buck 20 isn't it i didn't do the the red guardian limo um okay that was an option i did not did you do the alien romulus alien I did not do the alien Romulus alien. um
01:12:01
Speaker
Do you have the Dune one? I do not have. I don't have the fuck bucket. I don't. so Well, which one? That could be two different ones. That could also be Logan's head. You have Logan's head. I do not. So I didn't I didn't really start doing this popcorn bucket thing until.
01:12:20
Speaker
Ghostbusters Afterlife. OK, so I got the eta one. Oh, it's an Ecto one. I got the first Ecto, the Ecto one, and it has ah the lights turn on on it. And then when Frozen Empire came out, they had the ghost trap.
01:12:34
Speaker
And I'm like, all right, this thing is yeah awesome. Definitely a less expensive endeavor than the one I took to get both of those things.
01:12:42
Speaker
has labbs Oh, yeah. um The ghost trap actually has a practical use, though. During Halloween, I put candy in it and I use it as my pants. oh ah yeah I use it as my pants.
01:12:55
Speaker
um but Candy and my legs in it. Yeah, I use it as my dispenser for the children when they come to the door. Just, you know, and I turn the light on. So, you know, school i I only have one of the promotional buckets. I do the dog bowl now.
01:13:10
Speaker
you Dude, that the suit in the Superman dog bowl. That's adorable. but um I have the um ah hand handbook for the recently deceased.
01:13:23
Speaker
Oh, shit. I bought that one, too. Yeah, I have. I have that one. That's the only one of these. I'm a popcorn bucket guy now. I like I just I just like that. It looks like the book when you put it like on a shelf. So it's become just a Halloween decoration.
01:13:39
Speaker
it's It's now become the dad joke that I tell every movie. I go, Christina, do you want to get the such and such bucket? She goes, do you want the such and such bucket? And I'm like,
01:13:49
Speaker
no I did almost get that Jaws one at Cinemark. They had a really cool like shark, shark cage, Jaws one for the fifth and AMC had like the post the movie poster style, like shark with the mouth open. and But it's one of those things where it's like, how many buckets?
01:14:07
Speaker
What am I going to do with this? It's like getting collector's cups from sporting events. The one I did want to get was the Fantasticar. um But I none of those I couldn't find them anywhere because somebody took a picture of of it with them and they scale with it like it's like the right size.
01:14:25
Speaker
If you go to the AMC in West Orange, they always have every popcorn bucket. It's it's like never fails. They usually have like every single one if you really want the ft fantastic car.
01:14:38
Speaker
Yeah, I might I might have to look into that. We'll see. Well, so you know what though? That being said, the fact that Herbie did come with the the large popcorn, a large drink, and the candy, normally that combo alone is like $35. So you're getting all the snacks for $35, and then they're charging you buckets. Yeah, and they don't make and they don't make you put it in there.
01:15:03
Speaker
Right. Like, they give it to you separate. Yeah. yeah Imagine they were like, you can have it. but you need to put it in there. I want to watch you put it inside of him. i I want to watch you die a little on the inside.
01:15:16
Speaker
want to watch you fill him with liquid. um And Usher follows you to the Coca-Cola machine. Yeah. Yep. Yep. Coke zero, huh? Sure. We'll follow you home. um Okay. So that wraps up ah fantastic four.
01:15:34
Speaker
um As we, we usually do um guys. What, what did you think about the film? What's like, what's your, what's your one sentence takeaway and should people go see it? There's an, I know what you did last summer toolbox.
01:15:47
Speaker
Oh, I was going to say, is it a fisherman's hat? No, hope it's like hat upside down. ah That's kind of fun. It's just a hook around a bucket. Yeah. ah So, Joey, should people go see Fantastic Four? Yes, I think people should definitely go see Fantastic Four.
01:16:05
Speaker
I loved it. I thought it was, for lack of a better term, fantastic. um Yeah, I loved it. i would I would definitely go see it again if I didn't have like 100 characters.
01:16:16
Speaker
summer movies to go see i have the rest of august to to tackle through and um i wanted to go see superman and fantastic four on repeat and you know now i have like there's horror movies and i've already missed one that's completely out of the theaters now i believe ick with brendan routh it was only like four days and that's gone now like i that out of out of sight out of mind i cannot go into a service though i forget which one ah Okay, that's good. least that's... I want to see Together.
01:16:44
Speaker
that's That's the one I think I want to see is Together. Together. i got to see Naked Gun. want to see the Naked Gun, yeah. oh yeah. Naked Gun, too. Yeah. Yeah, that looks really good. um I agree with you. This was awesome. I didn't think that i it was going to be possible for a superhero movie to be better than Superman this summer, and...
01:17:04
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The Fantastic Four
MCU vs. DCEU Preferences
01:17:05
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did that for me. So um as much as I loved Superman and I thought that that was, you know, a great start for the new DCEU, it was just so great to be back in the Marvel Cinematic Universe again this summer. I don't and i don't know if I'm there, yeah but it's very good and you should see it.
01:17:23
Speaker
Yeah. It was it was great. Yeah. It was great, Dave. hmm.
01:17:33
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Just great. Yeah.
01:17:38
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I thought it was fantastic.
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