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Season 3 Episode 10: Planting seeds and watering gardens with Jarrod Moore
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00:00:00-00:02:46 Intro
00:02:46-00:25:18 Headlines of the Round
00:25:18-01:05:46 EGG GOTW: CoE vs. Hornsby-KuringGai Spiders (Men)
01:05:46-02:19:18 - Interview with Jarrod Moore (Penrith Panthers and BNSW)
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Transcript
Introduction and Show Overview
00:01:07
Speaker
Hello, hello, hello, and welcome to East Got Game, where we give you the X's, the O's, and the insights of NBL One East. Thank you for joining us tonight on YouTube and Instagram as we are streaming live.
00:01:22
Speaker
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00:01:35
Speaker
On this week's episode, we'll be covering our EGG Game of the Week, our top performances of the round, and have a very special guest to interview to close off the episode.
Comets Break Curse with Victory
00:01:47
Speaker
But first, Lockie, we've got to check in with how you are. What's happening down there in the East? A big weekend in the East because Will Constantinidis and I, at our fifth attempt, finally called a Comets win.
00:02:03
Speaker
Oh, awesome. Notch that one on the milestones for the season. Oh, it's what? Oh, and four in games we commentated together before before this weekend. So the curse is broken. The curse is broken. Yes. Comments got two wins.
00:02:17
Speaker
Against Penrith. ah Yeah, two really good games as well. Had lots of fun calling them. But it was a topsy-turvy weekend in the East. A few upsets, few boil overs, and then a few games that were kind of blowouts that we didn't really, you know, expect to, pardon me, you know, expect to be so such lopsided games.
Illawarra and Individual Highlights
00:02:42
Speaker
Well, yeah, maybe that's the perfect segue to start talking about our headlines from the round. ah So one of the headlines that I think you have planned to talk about is ah Bradley Ballinger.
00:02:55
Speaker
What's happening with him this weekend? Well, Brad Ballinger came into last weekend with... He hadn't scored a total of 21 points across his five games so far this season for that Illawarra team that's got, you know, the big three but needs players around to step up.
00:03:12
Speaker
And yeah, after 21 points in five games to this point, he went and dropped eight from 12 from three-point range and scored 24 points to help Illawarra to a big, big win over Central Coast. So they've got, you know, the big three are there and then, you know, now they've got another player hitting form because, ah yeah, I think after Ballinger's season last year, we all expected him to take another step up and now he maybe he's found his feet and hopefully he can continue.
00:03:41
Speaker
Yeah, especially because going into next round being round six, Illawarra look like they play Hornsby away and it also looks like they're playing Penrith Panthers away as well. So doubleheader away if next weekend.
00:03:56
Speaker
And Todd Blanchfield, one of the big three from that Illawarra Hawks men's side is going to be a away on Boomer's duty. So perhaps another opportunity for Ballinger to step up again.
00:04:09
Speaker
Definitely. And and an opportunity maybe for someone else as well. and It's like Comet's men have done in the past. You know, players get their their chance when someone's out and they end up taking that opportunity, rolling with it and, you know, becoming a bigger part of the a part of the team going forward.
00:04:28
Speaker
if What could be a challenge could also be an opportunity. Christ-a-tunity. Love it
00:04:37
Speaker
ah it. Deep cut. Deep cut. Really hoping that we have some other Simpsons
Obi-Chan and Wally Bales Updates
00:04:42
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nerds out there that picked up on that reference. and Speaking of comments, just a really quick ah observation, and please correct me if I'm wrong. Did Obi-Chan get a haircut?
00:04:54
Speaker
Oh, yeah, that was a couple of weeks ago. Ah, and i think I think it was the game. So what I called Penrith. Maybe Anzac Day was the debut or the Anzac Day weekend.
00:05:06
Speaker
um I'm not sure if it was before that, but he definitely had it on the Anzac Day weekend when I called the game. But yes, OBJ has had a haircut. yes It's very aerodynamic. Yeah, i was going to say that, unlike Samson, he's managed to maintain or retain his strength. He had 24 points, 15 rebounds and three assists against Penner. So it looks like, yeah, perhaps the haircut has made him more aerodynamic if he's getting on the glass like he is.
00:05:35
Speaker
yeah He was it was fun to watch, fun to watch this weekend. can And staying on the comments, man, it sounds like there's some more news that we need to talk about coming out of their camp.
00:05:47
Speaker
Yes, so a certain player who's been over in Switzerland, his team was just knocked out of the playoffs, but Wally Bales was in the house. He got off the plane and came straight to Alexandria. Dave O'Hickey was there as well, but ah more importantly, the player who's actually signed for Comets, but Wally Bales was in the house watching Comets. So hopefully are we'll see him back on court very, very soon.
00:06:15
Speaker
Yeah, are we expecting Bawali to be back on court for round six against Manly? Maybe, I'm not sure. i i honestly only, are I was so busy commentating that I only noticed him when he was ah walking out the door. it was the only time I saw him, so i didn't actually get to talk to him at all.
00:06:33
Speaker
Well, I think his timing is going to be perfect because, yeah, they've got Manly in round six, so they're going to want to capitalize on that. And then they've got Yashaki's in round seven the Shark Tank.
00:06:46
Speaker
Yeah, which is going to be ah pretty good test for for both teams. It will also be my 100th NBL one game. 100 MBL1 games. That is the perfect game for you to celebrate your 100th MBL1 game.
00:07:02
Speaker
Sharks, Comets at the Shark Tank. Someone in the MBL1 universe gods is looking after you. They certainly are. Yes, I'm psyched for that.
00:07:13
Speaker
I've been psyched that game, but wasn't my 100th. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So hopefully someone from Sutherland is but is watching right now or is going to listen to this episode well before round seven to know that it's going to be Lockie's 100th NBL1 game as a commentator.
00:07:30
Speaker
Please do something special for him or at least go and shake his hand. That's the least you could do. Bring a cupcake or dare or a packet of snakes. I think that will go a long way. Please do us a favour and shout, Lockie, a packet of snakes.
00:07:47
Speaker
Actually, last week they did bring me a packet of snakes. Anyway. i can Oh, okay. They've got that sorted Two packets of snakes. A hundred packets of snakes. One packet for every game you've commentated. You're in me.
00:08:03
Speaker
Okay, but something, you know, make sure you go and congratulate Lockie for reaching that milestone. um Because we also know that you're probably the only person that's going to stay up to date with those types of statistics and milestones, so...
00:08:17
Speaker
There you go. Rewarding yourself. Yes. Yes.
Women's Teams and Undefeated Streaks
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ah
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And from the women's competition to headlines, first of all, the Central Coast Crusaders women get their first win of the season against Illawarra with only seven players suiting up, one of them being fouled out and the other only playing about ah less less than five minutes. So the Crusaders women really did it tough, but I think they are probably very happy and relieved that they finally notched up a win.
00:08:52
Speaker
Definitely. And, you know, seven players and, you know, it's not like all their stars there because Jasbo Cadillac wasn't there. So, know, it's not like they they had everyone just with a short bench. They were actually missing a starter of two because their other Jasmine is injured.
00:09:10
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And, you know, Leilani went and dropped 24 and six and then Muffy came up with the big double-double, 18 and 10. And they both played the full 40 minutes and, well, they had to because it was a one-point game in the end.
00:09:26
Speaker
Yeah, and I think sometimes in these situations when you're down on numbers, you're down on starters, we know what Muffy can do and what she's capable of. Perfect time for her to be able to get some confidence back and be more of a scorer, ah hence her 18 and 10.
00:09:42
Speaker
And because up here in the North last season, she won a championship with rocking Rockingham, And her role was definitely a lot more of the organisation and distributing. So sometimes when you get used to one role, it can be hard to, again, play a little bit selfishly and shoot the ball a bit more. But we want to see more of that from you, Muffy. We know that you're a great scorer. i Just go for it. 100%.
00:10:08
Speaker
set it And just on Instagram Live here, we've got our friend SJ from Love of the Game, just referring back to your 100th game coming up in Round 7, Lockie. Just no hot chips, though, as you won't get to it until the fourth quarter.
00:10:23
Speaker
That's a very good tip. Very good tip. You can't even scoff them at halftime when you're commentating. There's no time. No. No, there isn't. No time. so so only Especially with the Lions at Sutherland.
00:10:35
Speaker
Yeah, right. We we pack the joint out, so... So maybe we can pre-order your hot chips at the start of the game to be picked up at the end. Thanks. And then i just also wanted to give a good shout-out to...
00:10:51
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three MBL1 East teams that are still one of the few teams that are undefeated in the entire MBL1 competition, ah one being the Canberra Gunners, who are 6-0 and sitting at the top of the men's ladder.
00:11:07
Speaker
And also we've got the Norths women, who are seven and oh and the Falcons women are 6-0 as well. So from memory, we had a quite a few, if not the same teams,
00:11:20
Speaker
have a very similar start to last season where they went on these very strong six and oh or maybe eight and oh runs and i think maybe the manly women were up there as well last season uh but yeah really strong starts from those teams and representing the east well on the national stage but are are we surprised um i'm I'm not really surprised that these teams are doing as well as they are.
00:11:50
Speaker
ah I mean, newke and Newcastle survived that big test against Aubrey Wodonga, but that was on a Sunday at Newcastle.
00:12:00
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um So you probably have Newcastle favourites in that situation. um I'm not really, I mean, I'm not surprised, but I'm no less impressed.
00:12:12
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He's still got to go out there and win seven games in a row, six games in a row. i mean, i think do Newcastle play COE pretty soon? Well, one of them play COE pretty soon in the Newcastle North.
00:12:25
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um So that will will be another test. But, I mean, they could both be sitting... nine and ten and oh when they play each other at the end of the month because yeah they don't even play each other until 31st of may so we could have two teams reach almost the halfway point of the season undefeated in the women's competition and a higher chance of being the only undefeated team in the entire competition but when they finally meet that tension is going to be on point yeah but uh It looks like round six, it looks like ah Sutherland are hosting Newcastle in round six.
00:13:02
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And also the Norse Bears are playing Penrith at home. Then the Newcastle Falcons are also then playing a game at home against Canberra.
00:13:16
Speaker
So the Gunners, you know, Newcastle Falcons men, they're on the up and up. They just had a huge win against Maitland. Now they're playing the Gunners while they're red hot. This could be also a nice early test for the Gunners. What do you think?
00:13:28
Speaker
That will be. I mean, know, Beastie and Cherry are starting to find their form. You know, you beat Maitland. That's, I mean, beat you beat Maitland, you should be able to take that kind of form into a game against Canberra.
00:13:44
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I mean,
00:13:47
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I wouldn't, I wouldn't be outright shocked if Newcastle got the win over Canberra. I would still have Canberra strong favorites in that one, but I mean, it's just been so topsy turvy the start of this season.
00:14:03
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Like just who's beaten, who has just been all over the shop and Canberra has just been the only unscathed team so far. Uh, so, yeah nothing would Nothing would surprise me at this stage in this season.
00:14:16
Speaker
And, yeah, Newcastle, what, they're 2-4, but they just beat Maitland. Convincing win against Maitland. Convincing win. So, i mean, there they're primed to very soon be a lot better than 2-4, regardless of the result against Canberra. I think they'd be ah they'll be on the up and up.
00:14:35
Speaker
And Norse women, I'm pretty confident they will beat Penrith Panthers in the next round. And then come round seven, though, Norse face the COE. So I think for the Norse women's team, that will be a really, really good test.
00:14:48
Speaker
Pretty confident that they'll end up having the edge over COE in that game purely based on, you know, what we love that Norse women's program to be. Lots of experience, lots of history with each other, great coaching staff.
00:15:02
Speaker
But I think that's going to be a highlight for round seven and another perhaps early test for them. Yeah. Yeah. I think that that's probably the main game that either one of Newcastle Norse women is probably the sketchiest one at the moment of what they've got to come before they face each other. It's just, we could have two teams that for all intents and purposes are both qualified for finals before they even play each other.
00:15:30
Speaker
Yes. And then, yeah, like you mentioned, end of the month on May 31st, the Norse women and the Newcastle women face each other. so So that will be a ah real and that ah if it falls, that may have to be.
00:15:43
Speaker
i was going to say that may have to be our East got game game of the week, but we've already done the Newcastle women, but that's all right. We've got some weeks to decide. We do. Yeah.
00:15:54
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So no stress, no stress. ah And then We had a question from one of our very loyal listeners via our East Got Game Instagram page who chooses to remain anonymous.
00:16:08
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So we will respect that. But we really appreciate ah this person sending us a question and helping us generate the conversation. ah Basically just asking questions.
00:16:20
Speaker
if NBL One East has the best photographers. So I don't know about you, Lachie, but I've certainly noticed this year so far there's been certainly an ah ah big increase in content creators in the east so not just uh photographers but also people who are creating more instagram reels and interviews or any kind of athlete highlight packages that are featuring players from the east is it just me spending too much time on my phone or have you noticed the same no i've definitely noticed the same there has been a big increase um and
00:16:59
Speaker
I think, I mean, we weed we we had a lot in the early days of NBL One East
Impact of Content Creators in NBL1
00:17:05
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as well. And I will give credit where it's due that basketball in New South Wales and NBL One East content, official content has increased greatly.
00:17:15
Speaker
But back in the day, it probably lagged behind the other conferences. So there was a gap, a space that was filled by, guess, us, to feed in the paint James O'Donoghue taking photos and that's been seen as a space where people can enter and now we've got so many people creating content because it's we got so many people creating content and the official channel is supporting them
00:17:48
Speaker
and building their own content. So it's just all come together really well. You know, we started from probably behind and then people have seen that there was a space where, NBL One East needs some, you know, it needs some content. And these players I like or these guys I know, you know, you might you might be a content creator who you might play pick-up ball with some of them in the summer or something, whatever, you might know them.
00:18:09
Speaker
You're like, oh, want you know, the league's not doing much, but now the league is doing stuff, but all these guys are still creating great content and it's just so good for the league. I don't, I'm not an art critic. I can't speak to do we have the best commentators, but I do ah best commentators. We do have the best commentators.
00:18:28
Speaker
Yeah, we established that. That's okay. Do we have the best photographers? I don't know. I'm not an art critic, as I said, but we have an excellent group of a lot of people who all support each other and all put out great work. And I feel like it is...
00:18:47
Speaker
um appreciated by not just the players that are getting content created for them about them, but by the league as well. So i think the league is in a very good space content and media wise.
00:19:03
Speaker
Yeah, I think that's really well said and I definitely like the point you made about one of the differences in content creation but mostly access to content this season is that the BNSW and a fa official MBL One East social media content manager yeah is trying to create a community between us content creators and be able to collaborate with with each other.
00:19:29
Speaker
And that platform is also sharing us too. Essentially, lot of us are doing it for free. I mean, ah the exception of some of the long-standing very professional photographers in our league like James O'Donoghue and also want to give mention to Greg Francis who's Discovery One Photography on Instagram and also Rob Schatz who covers a lot of the Illawarra Hawks.
00:19:55
Speaker
Obviously they're probably doing that as their full-time gig and you know that James O'Donoghue does a lot of the team photos every year for a lot of the clubs in Sydney so he's making his bread.
00:20:07
Speaker
Rightfully so because he's hustled a long time for it. ah But for a lot of other people, we just do it for the love of it and we just want to have more eyes on the league that we we enjoy.
00:20:19
Speaker
and um so it's really nice when the governing body then wants to share our stuff too and show appreciation in that way. Oh, 100%. And you mentioned James. hu james was James was out there taking photos of Warratah League games.
00:20:35
Speaker
He's been around. Yeah, that's right. He's from Perth. He's not even from Sydney. He has no reason to be invested in the league. Yeah. And we've got some great comments.
00:20:47
Speaker
We've got some great comments on our Instagram live as well. One from Burnix8. I'm sorry. I hope I pronounced that correctly. ah But yeah, James hands down the best in the business and also giving a nice shout out to Zach Roberts, who's also was on the list to give a shout out.
00:21:04
Speaker
And MVP underscore AU says, Zach Roberts content is fire. Well, it says fire emoji and then camera. So I'm going to say that means that his content is lit.
00:21:15
Speaker
And James is the goat. The goat, James O'Donoghue's been called the goat of east photography. So um yeah I'm glad that it's the love's being shared and I think as other content creators like us and ah even athletes you know if you get tagged in some of that stuff um make sure you share it with your friends try and give some love to to the our photographers as well um but who else is on your radar that's been creating content for MBL 1E's Lockie
00:21:47
Speaker
Well, being at Comets, there's one guy I see every week. That's Damian Clark. He's always there, gets there real early, always. Like I'm talking you like I'm still setting up for commentary and hes he shows up real early.
00:22:01
Speaker
And now he's got his his podcast as well, which is really well done, really professionally done. So he's he's definitely one that I see around the traps and he's doing really good work. And I mean, there's so many out there like but Silver Slashes.
00:22:16
Speaker
I mean, i think even Caleb dropped their name when um we had him on the show a few weeks ago. So we are yeah so many out there who are doing such great work.
00:22:29
Speaker
And, ah yeah, another one on our Instagram comments, just mentioned Damien as well and also Anna. ah i I think it's Anna Amos is her name on Instagram but her handle goes as Anna, S-A-R-C-H-I-V-E-S.
00:22:45
Speaker
I don't want to attempt to pronounce that in case I'm butchering it, but also known as Anna Amos, she also does some great content, including some really nice WNBL content, and she looks like an absolute sweetie, so give her a follow as well on Insta.
00:23:00
Speaker
um And we you mentioned Silver Slashes. um Yeah, we mentioned Zach Roberts. He was on the list and Damien Clark on the list too. There's also Captured by Rex, which is,
00:23:13
Speaker
R-E-K-Z. um Also Aaron Kamua, who we know that does some stuff with Norse time to time and I think used to dabble some Sydney Kings content back in the day.
00:23:25
Speaker
And, of course, Floyd Mallon. Someone's got you covering the Stangers. The OG. The OG.
00:23:35
Speaker
And I think the most recent one that's popped up is an account called Robert's Creative. They did some work over at the Falcons-Maitlands game at Broadmeadow this weekend.
00:23:48
Speaker
And, look, we will take the opportunity as well to say we have probably missed a lot of people whose content we share on our stories, and for that we apologise. But we tried to...
00:24:00
Speaker
put together a quick list of people that uh was easy to find and came off the top of our heads but yeah just wanted to highlight that uh east east got game
End-of-Season Photography Competition Discussion
00:24:12
Speaker
ah in the photography and and creative content department as well i think a great example actually is if you go to the nbl1 east website uh there's the east recap from round five just on sunday with this opening shot of it looks like uh Raw Accor and Madin Kawane just celebrating after Raw Accor's big three-point buzzer to beat Hornsby on Sunday.
00:24:38
Speaker
Perfect example. 100%. And that was ah Greg Francis took that shot. so Yes. Yeah, really nicely done. You know what they did up here in the north, actually? they think I think they had an end-of-season photography competition where fans could vote. I reckon there's space for the east to do that too. Oh, 100%.
00:24:55
Speaker
one hundred per cent And if not NBL 1 East, should we just do it? Yeah, probably. Yeah. Yeah.
00:25:08
Speaker
Yeah. All right. I'll try and add that to the mental list. All right. Well, that was our headlines of the week. We should probably get onto it and start talking about our East Scott game, Game of the Week. And, Lockie, this one was a barn burner.
00:25:24
Speaker
Tell our audience which game we'll be reviewing today. Well, we we picked this one late because it was but the last game of the weekend. It
Exciting Game Recap: COE vs. Hornsby
00:25:33
Speaker
is the Basketball Australia Centre of Excellence versus the Hornsby Keringai Spiders in a game that was chaos in the final minutes.
00:25:44
Speaker
It was chaos a lot of the time, but especially in the final minutes. It finished seventy nine seventy six As you just mentioned, Squinn, Brodacore hitting a game-winning three after also hitting a buzzer beater to end the third quarter.
00:26:00
Speaker
So two absolutely vital baskets. ah ah Just, I mean, two of the teams that play at the highest pace in the league, and it showed.
00:26:13
Speaker
No one was slowing down. No. When you mentioned it was chaos, not just in that final minute, but a lot of the game, I was puffed out watching this game by the level of pace.
00:26:25
Speaker
It was really, really quick. And you're right. No one showed slides of slowing down.
00:26:33
Speaker
So talk me through some of your main points for this game. Yeah.
00:26:42
Speaker
Well, it was, it was fast, but it was also very physical defensively to like Hornsby wanted, I think ah SJ mentioned it about last night when we were on love of the game about COE running things in the half court.
00:27:04
Speaker
Um, And you were talking just before we went on about their motion as well. And I think Hornsby recognized that they had to knock Stareway off their rhythm in the half court and make them make them come up with things on the fly kind of thing.
00:27:23
Speaker
mean Which i I think they did a pretty good job of because there's a few young guys on the Hornsby team, but They've got plenty of guys out there that can battle physically. And I think that is probably the one thing, well, it is definitely the one thing that most teams will have over COE that you have to use to your advantage is for the most part, you're going to have some grown men on your team that are going to be bigger and stronger than just about everyone on that COE roster. And you have to use it.
00:27:57
Speaker
And even if you're not, you still have to give as good or better than you get on the defensive end. I think that's what Hornsby did really well. um I did but ah found it interesting that a team, because usually when you're playing a team where you're,
00:28:16
Speaker
ah you know, Hornsby sitting so on the table would be kind of outsiders. And I always come back to the game, the college semifinal between UConn and Mississippi State, the Mississippi State one, where they ran.
00:28:31
Speaker
28 of the 30 seconds off the clock. Every single possession um basically condensed the game. But Hornsby didn't do that. They kept playing at their pace. They played at their high place.
00:28:42
Speaker
They played their game. And it kept them in it. And it didn't just keep them in it. They were ahead with 15 seconds to play until both teams decided that five-second inbounds calls were the best thing to do.
00:28:55
Speaker
Come on. Mate, now, yeah as we mentioned on our Instagram Live last night with SJ from Loving the Game, we are both nerds and I can imagine we have both documented that last 45 seconds of this game, which we will get into. We will definitely get into. So I'm holding on to it for later.
00:29:17
Speaker
But I think, I mean, the free throw count, 27 attempts to 14 in COE's favour. And think... in soes favour and i There was just times where Hornsby would be so physical, they'd hard show on someone and then get caught behind them and foul trying to chase the chase the ball. like If you're going to do that, you've got to either pick and choose who which ball handlers you do that on or pick and choose which defenders are allowed to do it.
00:29:53
Speaker
You don't want someone who can't stay in front of the ball handler to jump out and get caught chasing.
00:30:01
Speaker
Yeah, I totally agree. And so at all of the notes you have made so far were, this I've made the same observations, ah particularly where you mentioned when Hornsby changed their defensive strategy. There was a marked change in their defensive strategy strategy from the first quarter to the second.
00:30:20
Speaker
So the first quarter, COE, they came out and it looks like they're running sets, but it's just their motion offense have particular looks like they have particular rules. So it's always getting an entry down to one side.
00:30:32
Speaker
trying to, you know, if the ball's reversed, it's reversed through a handoff. You play off that handoff. Otherwise, the weak side high post comes up and then either a catch for another handoff or a pick and roll. That's just how their motion works.
00:30:46
Speaker
And in that first quarter, COE were running it like textbook. It was almost like a demonstration video of like, this is how we play our offense and this is how you get scoring options from it.
00:30:56
Speaker
But as a fan, it was beautiful to watch. It was just like, oh, was drooling. It was like Homer in a pink donut. It was like, I mean, and that's why they were up eight niil after two and a half minutes. And they had other good looks. It could have been more.
00:31:15
Speaker
Yeah, so it was really great that Hornsby were able to make that defensive adjustment so quickly in the second because they certainly picked up the defensive intensity.
00:31:26
Speaker
ah They weren't letting the COE get as many easy catches, especially in that compared to the first quarter. A lot more bumping, and that is definitely when they started to do the hard show and the switching on pick and rolls and handoffs, and that really caused a big disruption. Yeah.
00:31:44
Speaker
I wonder, do you think, because John Kutch match started for COE standing 7'4". I mean, that has to play into how Hornsby are able to defend.
00:32:02
Speaker
Because there was one play early where he was wide open, and I have easy dunk written, but that's unfair because the guy barely jumped and he still nearly ripped his rim down.
00:32:15
Speaker
Yeah. kind modern That Futurama episode where the professor grows the guy with the really long arms to play basketball. That's what the dunk looks like. It was just, he was standing so far out and reefed it down. But back to my point is, yeah, that has to change how Hornsby are able to play defense. If they know that there's a guy out there that see a way their passes can put the ball anywhere and only he can go get it.
00:32:45
Speaker
Yeah, that's right. That's right. So, yeah, just being able to throw it up in his general vicinity where he's able to reach it and grab it and just put it in. Look, and it didn't work 100% of the time, to be fair. There were certainly times where um probably his foundation was ah a little bit unstable, so it made some of those easy shots quite difficult.
00:33:07
Speaker
But, yeah, how do you guard someone that is seven foot four Or how do you... how do you get that person away from the rim as well? And to be fair, there were a couple of times when Aaron Redhead was on and matched up against him ah quite a big chunk of the game.
00:33:24
Speaker
And Aaron Redhead was able to outsmart him a little bit by putting up some pump fakes and sucking him into a block. He ended up getting heavily fouled or, playing a little bit more of an outside game to draw drag him away from the rim.
00:33:37
Speaker
Because, you know, Redhead can hit a three as well. So you've got to try and respect that while not being beaten off the dribble. ah So Hornsby managed to, i think, cope with it for the most part.
00:33:49
Speaker
And I really liked how... A lot of these young guards from Hornsby really dogging the ball up in the passing lane and they seem to have quite a harmony about them at both ends of the floor.
00:34:02
Speaker
They're... early shots in that first quarter. You mentioned that COE had an start, and that was partially because everything was coming so easy for them in offense, but also because Hornsby just couldn't make a shot.
00:34:19
Speaker
They had so many great looks in transition and second chance opportunities, they just couldn't make a shot. But that didn't dent their confidence at all in this game. They kept shooting the same shots at in the stretch as well.
00:34:33
Speaker
They did. the The one thing I noticed about Hornsby, right and I'm talking like first three possessions of the game, which they quickly knocked off, was... CLU, when they would double a ball handle, it was... Mohamed Kone was backing down the defender really high.
00:34:51
Speaker
ah but He was bringing the ball up, he would back down the defender, and CLU would just be able to almost trap him then and there, which was really... it It felt like it made him really vulnerable to that.
00:35:03
Speaker
Once he knocked that off... that's when they started looking looking better because it just makes you less vulnerable to the trap because you're facing the opposite direction, are you going to throw the ball to?
00:35:14
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah, no, I totally agree. But ah yeah. um So, yeah, things changed a lot from that second quarter. Like we already mentioned, Hornsby being very disruptive on the defensive end, starting to get themselves a little bit in foul trouble though. So the downside of up in the ante on defense and being disruptive in the half-court offense for COE is that then they tended to foul, especially in similar ways that you mentioned before, a couple of overplays when they were showing on pick and rolls or handoffs and having to play catch up.
00:35:51
Speaker
And Hornsby's team foul count was quite high very early in the second quarter, which meant that I think COE had like a good six minutes to play ah going to the free throw line.
00:36:04
Speaker
I think they ended up scoring 11 of their 14 points in the second quarter just on free throws. Yeah. And I mean, you can't really blame them for... i mean, they shot 33% from two-point range. So, but...
00:36:20
Speaker
um You know, so many of their points are coming at the free throw line. It's probably a lot of the time it's before they even get a shot. They get sent to the free throw line. So it's not like they were, you know, jacking up shots and missing everything. and That's why they only got three points from open play. It's just not as many opportunities because they were always at the line.
00:36:41
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, that's right. And it really slowed the game down as well, ah which was – not really the style of play that either team wanted to play. They both wanted to play with pace and get transition buckets and transition three. So it was certainly a big adjustment for both teams in that second quarter.
00:37:02
Speaker
And think I put, um but yeah, while there was great defensive pressure, as we already mentioned, I don't feel like either team ended up making huge or drastic adjustments in their half-court offense.
00:37:18
Speaker
So we mentioned how they both started the game playing with pace, wanting transition baskets. COE's great motion. Then come second quarter, Hornsby have put in ah a heavier defense, showing, switching.
00:37:31
Speaker
But then COE didn't really do a lot to overcome it. Like they didn't kind of change the pace to play in like grinded out in the half-court offense or run sets or um slow it down at least a little bit so they could make some better decisions. They kept playing at that pace.
00:37:49
Speaker
And I don't think it was really very fruitful for them overall. No, and I wrote down as much. i I was writing down that Hornsby were looking solid in transition and COE, I wrote, you're attempting to respond the same way, but why?
00:38:05
Speaker
We we've watched we watch your offense. We... Yeah, if you can run a motion like that, I'm sure you've got other tricks up your sleeve. You've got something else you can run in the half court. oh Yeah. these guys These guys are training together all the time. I say that about COE all the time. They should be maybe not the most polished because they're still kids, but they should probably have the best idea of what everyone else is going to do on court because they are either training with them in the offense or defending them every every training session.
00:38:35
Speaker
Yeah, and like I think Hornsby's – Well, actually, this was a note for both teams is that both teams then continued to kind of play with pace, but then they ended up dropping some of those fundamentals that were so successful in the first quarter. So they started to, you know, fall out of their floor spots.
00:38:55
Speaker
um They weren't really focusing on execution and good passes anymore. So they were all really quite under pressure, but nothing was kind of done to to counteract it, which I thought was...
00:39:07
Speaker
um kind of interesting so i was hoping to see something different come the second sec uh sorry yeah the second half uh and it was great that in this particular stream we could see some of the halftime stats because that's not always available when you go and watch a replay uh but field goal percentage was pretty close you know coe had 38 field goal percentage at halftime and horn speed had 32 free throw percentage though Oh, you know, this is the name of existence. ah
00:39:40
Speaker
Mate, half-time. Both teams sub-60%. 59% at half-time for COE, for the Hornsby Keringai Spiders. at halftime for the hornsby corin guy spiders And to finish the game, COE, you know, increased that a little bit to 62.96.
00:40:02
Speaker
And Hornsby increased it even more with 64.29. Still, guys, come on. We've got to be getting at least 70, and that's me being generous.
00:40:13
Speaker
You should be getting at least 75. Come on. I'm not sure many. I don't know if any team shoots 75% in this league free throws. Surely. the ti Come on, guys. Semi-pro. You should be nailing your free throws. And i I know I harp on it a lot, but I feel like I can because my free throws, i had a good free throw percentage. So that's the only thing that's saving me right now.
00:40:39
Speaker
and Well, then I've got absolutely zero legs to stand on. Yeah. and So third quarter for me, i didn't see very many changes. I continued to see Hornsby Keringai overplaying and perhaps overreacting on a lot of switches. They started to switch a bit too early. They started to overplay ah some of the shows a little bit too much. And then COE did start to read and react to those overplays a little bit better and started to get some more open drives.
00:41:10
Speaker
COE though, you just got to be careful of that three second violation. Woo. couple of times where, yeah, they were in there a long time. It was close.
00:41:21
Speaker
Yeah, they were in there a for a little bit. and I mean, I think as ah ah um as Alex Dickerson started to get more of a read on how things were progressing throughout the game, I think he found a lot more
00:41:38
Speaker
a lot more avenues to get the ball to teammates that perhaps he wasn't finding in the early stages uh i thought he came into the game really well but i mean read exactly the same just horns be just overextending um and i mean what coe players yes being in the paint for a long time because they're pretty open in there and just begging for the ball almost on occasion just like just throw me the ball i'll put it in the basket Or at least catch it. Or at least get free throws.
00:42:09
Speaker
Yes. Yeah. Yeah, there was one just sticks in my mind, just burned into my brain where they doubled. Hornsby sent the double on Dickerson way out, probably like six, seven feet behind the arc.
00:42:27
Speaker
left a man wide open on the other side. He just threw it, passed straight in the middle, and um just easiest basket of all time. And it all came because they brought two players and there was significant distance between... Diggins took a step out to throw the pass and there was significant distance between him and the two defenders. was like, well, you're doubling, but you're not actually pressuring him. If you're going to be out that far, get right in his face.
00:42:54
Speaker
Yeah, it's... And I think... the ah what's the word, the emerging theme and and presence of Hornspeak perhaps overplaying ah and over, um yeah, overplaying essentially some of those handoffs and um switches.
00:43:14
Speaker
I'm going to have to circle back to that when we get into the nitty gritty of what was the last minute of this game because actually, you know what, that's all i'm going to say at that point. But ah third quarter for me,
00:43:27
Speaker
Yeah, I didn't see – I saw a lot of what we saw in the second quarter really. Again, teams not making huge adjustments. I think COE, like I said, just managing to drive a bit more.
00:43:39
Speaker
Hornsby ended up winning that third quarter twenty three to twenty two So team that was the highest scoring quarter of the game. Each team still – Shooting at a reasonable clip as well. So COE were 50% from the two-point range and 40% from the three-point range for that quarter.
00:43:58
Speaker
um And Hornsby were 50% from the two-point range and 37.5% from three-point range. So not not too bad for each team.
00:44:10
Speaker
But did you see any other anything else significant in the third quarter for me, of the team? Well, you mentioned the three-point shooting. so thirty So that's three of eight from Hornsby in the third quarter, whereas they were five of 18 beforehand. So shooting a little bit better percentage, but um I think Daniel Titus was three of three from three-point range for the game, which ah certainly helps. And he had all of those within the first three quarters.
00:44:35
Speaker
um What I did note down is at that point in the game, there had been zero blocks from yeah i I noticed that as well. Given the size of each team, I was really surprised that there was zero blocks recorded.
00:44:53
Speaker
Me too. You mentioned like COE driving in and... I mean, the three-point shooting, it was there, but it wasn't, I mean, especially COE then in the first half. They only shot eight threes in the first half or something. So, yeah, I found it really interesting that there were no blocks at all in the first three quarters and only one for the entire game.
00:45:17
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, and... ah um That was surprising. I was also really surprised as well by the assist count. I thought it was quite low by three-quarter time and for the rest of the game for COE. So they only had nine team assists by three-quarter time.
00:45:33
Speaker
And then they had 13 for the whole game. But I suppose given how much of their scoring came from the free-through line and from pick-and-roll opportunities or one-on-one penetration after a ball reversal, maybe that lower assist count makes a lot more sense.
00:45:52
Speaker
Hornsby, on the other hand, great team ball. Well, a little bit better anyway, 17 assists in the end, um getting five assists in the last quarter and eight rebounds in the last quarter. So they were really hustling in the fourth.
00:46:06
Speaker
They certainly were. And they were, well, first they had to come back from a significant deficit because it was 64-55 and then they went out. You know, they didn't just reel in the deficit. They then put a bit of a margin on COE.
00:46:24
Speaker
I think actually before we get into the fourth quarter, one other thing I did notice in the third is that COE started to also then fall away from things that were working for them well in the first and second quarter.
00:46:35
Speaker
They weren't moving the ball as much as they were. They were relying a lot more on dribble penetration, spending a lot of time just getting the ball over the halfway point. and relying a lot on ah one-on-one opportunities pick and roll opportunities rather than letting the ball do the work.
00:46:51
Speaker
But come the fourth quarter, and looked like they were generating better scoring options very quickly when they were exercising a bit more patience and definitely got back into that ball movement rather than relying on penetration.
00:47:06
Speaker
ah What did you see going into the fourth? I mean, c oa I think they had one possession at the start of the fourth where it just was, I didn't know why they took the shot they did.
00:47:20
Speaker
And then for the next couple of minutes, it was back to them actually looking pretty good. Dickerson, who finished with four assists, didn't have biggest scoring knot, but finished with a good few assists and probably a lot of other passes that are like, well, the player had to put it on the floor. So he doesn't get the assist, but the pass certainly you know, made the play happen kind of thing.
00:47:43
Speaker
um And i mean, they were up by nine with 8.44 to play. And then Hornsby, and then Hornsby were able to come back into it.
00:47:58
Speaker
And it was like, they just had a couple of minutes COE where they looked really good again. And then went back into kind of some of the old, old habits of the third quarter.
00:48:09
Speaker
Yeah, they really just started to fall asleep in some patches in the fourth quarter. So I'm not sure if it's just a concentration thing, miscommunication thing on the COE. But you say that Hornsby came storming back in the fourth.
00:48:24
Speaker
I'm going to be more specific and say it was Akil Douglas who came storming back in the fourth. He owned this quarter for Hornsby. He was everywhere. He was protecting the rim.
00:48:36
Speaker
He was chasing O-boards. He was getting like he got a bunch of transition baskets and the timing of those transition baskets was what kept the Hornsby Karinga either in touch with COE or putting ahead.
00:48:50
Speaker
So he really... putting them ahead so he really kind of came alive in that fourth. I think his best transition basket for me was at the 4 minute 25 mark in the fourth, where basically he was the second line of rotation and had to double down in the low post.
00:49:08
Speaker
Then the balls turned over and he's the one sprinting ahead to go and make a layup at the other end. Like that is just pure effort. I was so impressed. And that was when COE called the timeout immediately after that?
00:49:22
Speaker
I have a feeling, yeah. I think i think there may have been a timeout very soon. That was the tie game. Yeah, that was the master to tie it fire up. um Yeah, and I wrote COE tightening up at that stage.
00:49:35
Speaker
um Looked like they were like, you know, got out to a big lead and then Hornsby comes stalling back. And I think like that timeout, it had to be called.
00:49:47
Speaker
Um, and it was a good, it was a good thing. It was, and it, it really, it really settled COA. I'm sure Robin McKinlay had some, uh, some choice words for his charges at that stage to, uh, you know, get them, uh, get them set for the final few minutes.
00:50:07
Speaker
Yeah, Douglas only played 18 minutes and 42 seconds in this game. He was in foul trouble, so perhaps his limited minutes is more reflective because he had foul trouble. He had four fouls, I think kind of early-ish.
00:50:19
Speaker
um Because he, okay, another point I'll get back to at the end, but a couple of his fouls were um illegal screens. ah But he ended up with 12 points, three rebounds, all three being offensive rebounds, an assist and a steal.
00:50:35
Speaker
Yeah, just hustling in that fourth quarter to try and make the most of it. And I think that was a huge difference for Hornsby in the fourth quarter. Yeah, it was really, really tight to call going into the final few minutes of this game. Did you have any, regardless, like before you saw the result,
00:50:54
Speaker
Did you have any inclination of who you thought was going to take over in the last few minutes to get the win? ah i've If I had to pick someone, i pick one player from Hornsby, i felt like ah Brian and Sir Yaboa.
00:51:12
Speaker
because he hit that top three during there when they were nine down and brought it back. He hit that top three. And he just, he always looked primed to take a shot, make a shot.
00:51:25
Speaker
He was 6-13 for the game, from three-point range. But he just always looked confident. um Like he believed his shots were going in regardless.
00:51:36
Speaker
I actually really enjoyed watching him play in this one. And I think I felt like he was ah someone that might take over and get it done down the stretch. But I mean, when it goes back and forth that quickly and teams fall in and out of what works and what doesn't work, it was probably destined to finish as ridiculously as it did.
00:52:01
Speaker
Yeah, I agree. As we mentioned at the top of the review, the pace did not let up. The pace was maintained the whole game. So, yeah, you can kind of think that a game like that is, and it was getting physical and there was definitely parts in that third quarter was getting scrappy where there was lots of loose balls, lots of perhaps poor decisions and things like that. So, yeah, that's always showing signs that it's going to be a close game in the end.
00:52:28
Speaker
But, yeah, really like that shout-out for Brian Ansar, Yeboah. He ended up with 15 points, three rebounds, two steals, 50% from the three-point line.
00:52:40
Speaker
Stats aside, I totally agree. but me, what I was most impressed with was his confidence. He was shooting like he was a shooter. like he yeah I was like, that's the shooter of this team, just how he carried himself, just the shots he was taking that were all, in my view, the right shots to take, all open,
00:52:58
Speaker
all in rhythm, in transition, a lot of them all on a ball reversal. He wasn't forcing things. Like he didn't have that mentality of like, I'm going to be the scorer so I'm going to take all the shots because I have to score.
00:53:10
Speaker
He shot the ball when his shots came to him and he shot it like they were all going in. He's got a really lovely technique too. So, yeah, I was really impressed with how he carried himself in this game more than anything.
00:53:25
Speaker
Yeah. ah So... Are we ready to get into the final, say, 45 seconds of this game? I do want to point out, because it got really low scoring from about the poem, it was about 72-71,
00:53:41
Speaker
seventy two seventy one um seventy three seventy two i just want to make mention of a couple of moments that I think wade things the rim check on the dunk with about four minutes to go from Hornsby that would have given them the lead.
00:54:01
Speaker
And then the abhorrent cross court pass by the Spiders not long after two plays that well, cost them two points with the rim check. And then there we have, because it was just there. I don't remember which player it was just came straight out and,
00:54:23
Speaker
straight back down on the other end. Just two plays that could have really swung the game in the spiders' favour down the stretch. Instead, with a minute to go, it it was still a one-point game at Hornsby with a minute to play, but i think that's where we can start it. seventy six seventy five
00:54:44
Speaker
oh All right, here we go. Let's break this down. Now, the first thing that I have put down is COE managed to get possession from a jump ball with about 45 seconds to play. That's where I've clocked it first. yeah Have you clocked something significant before that?
00:55:00
Speaker
um
00:55:04
Speaker
No, no. I've got ah i've got ah Hornsby beating a double and getting a tough shot away. But then my next one is... Yeah, COE missed, had two O boards on that possession, missed them both.
00:55:19
Speaker
Oh, no. Have you got the one after that? No, so yeah, i I've got the COE managed to get possession from from a jump ball with 45 seconds to play and then a timeout's called.
00:55:31
Speaker
They have a baseline out-of-bounds play, get a five-second violation. ah So i bought and yeah I've got the actual play that happened to create the possession arrow.
00:55:44
Speaker
Oh, okay. They had two O boards, missed both the baskets, and there was a scrap. They had the arrow you're talking about. Yes, yes. So, yeah, that that's what led up to that jump ball situation. And then timeout was called.
00:55:58
Speaker
COE have a baseline out of bounds, and they get called for a five-second violation. And at that point in the game, with that with the score as it was and 45 seconds to play, COE have missed the opportunity for a two-for-one.
00:56:14
Speaker
Oh, i hadn't considered that. Yeah, because their possession on the baseline, 45, and I was like, bruh. And then it was a five-second violation.
00:56:26
Speaker
oh my God. And then I was like, I was stressed. And so ah then I've got it 41 seconds to play. Hornsby called their timeout and chose to advance.
00:56:39
Speaker
ah And then i wrote that. Hold on, have I got the right player here? ah Yes, and then their number four, Mohamed Kony. he had He had a great drive.
00:56:56
Speaker
he had a really, really lovely drive from the top of the key. I think he took on someone like Dickinson. It was wide open on the right, but unfortunately he missed. Yeah. Yeah. did you have Did you have anything else before that?
00:57:10
Speaker
Well, don't. No, there that was that was pretty much the play that transpired. Yeah. ah And then coe came down the other end because got the D board and Emma Nalo had the three-point shot.
00:57:29
Speaker
And then there was a possession arrow favoring Spiders.
00:57:34
Speaker
It was another scrap for the ball. Yes. ah Yeah, a tie-up anyway. Yeah. And yeah. And then, as we mentioned earlier,
00:57:47
Speaker
another timeout, another five seconds. This time the spiders. The second five-second violation. And by this time of the game, it's at 15 seconds.
00:57:58
Speaker
Yes. So there was a big chunk there of this 45 seconds where, like, it was just nothing. It was just scrap. Yeah. Wasting time. Yeah. Yeah.
00:58:10
Speaker
o Yeah, so turnover, Hornsby there. So at this point, it's 75-76 in favour of Hornsby, 15 seconds to play. They've just committed five-second violation on the sideline out of bounds.
00:58:24
Speaker
And then ah number seven, Brian and Sir Yeboah fouls r Dickerson. ah But thankfully for the first time in the game, Hornsby aren't over the team foul limit.
00:58:37
Speaker
LAUGHTER Otherwise Dickerson would have had free throws a lot earlier than what he did. Yes. So he goes to the free throw line and what happens next, Lockie?
00:58:50
Speaker
He goes one of two tie the game.
00:58:59
Speaker
And then he gets a steal. Yes. Yes, he does. Fine... the The ball gets to roar core.
00:59:12
Speaker
No. Yeah, the ball gets to roar a core.
00:59:17
Speaker
And for the second time in the game, in the second half, he buries a three just before the clock goes. Yeah. So this, I should go back and say, like,
00:59:32
Speaker
what i documented in this kind of last 15 seconds of when Dickerson draws this foul, right, to have two free throws. This is where I'm going circle back to us saying before how Hornsby did increase their defensive intensity, but it started to go a little bit wayward when they were overplaying like the hard shows and the switches on screens and the switches on handoffs.
00:59:58
Speaker
So to get Dickerson, Dickerson was a good couple of metres, above the three-point line. And what actually got him open was a pick and roll. Someone from Hornsby did a hard show and, and like, was way overplayed.
01:00:14
Speaker
Dickerson was just able to split the screen and cross over. There was no help coming because one person that was on the split line had to cover someone like Mading Kawane, I think, in the weak side.
01:00:27
Speaker
So what do you do? do you step up and try and, like, take dickerson and protect the rim or do you go out and take that shooter you know medin kawane can hit it from out there so they in the situation and then so the help that ends up coming comes from a totally different side or is the person that gets caught up in that high pick and roll after the hard way too hard show has to hustle back and that's how dickerson ends up getting fouled so it's almost like this recurring theme of the hard shows and the hard switches
01:00:59
Speaker
were great and then it ended up being a little bit of their downfall. So Dickerson, as you said, goes one of two from the free-throw line to tie it up. And the steal that he gets isn't even in play.
01:01:11
Speaker
Yeah. It's from a baseline out of bounds that Hornsby takes from under the basket. No one moves from Hornsby towards the ball to get open.
01:01:22
Speaker
Stands there. Dickerson just comes from around and steals it. And it was just... just I hate to say that it was just a brain lapse and brain lapse one on top of each other and COE capitalized at the right time.
01:01:37
Speaker
It certainly did and Yeah, but I mentioned it, talked about it on the Instagram Live with SJ last night. I just, for Hornsby's sake, I hope they don't have these situations where they keep losing these one-point games, these overtime games, like they did a couple of seasons ago, because they're a better team than that.
01:01:56
Speaker
And they showed that in even being close against COA. There are a lot of teams out there that will not come within even close to three points of COA, let alone having a chance to wheel it with 15 seconds to play.
01:02:11
Speaker
I think, like, my final notes from this game ah for COE is that they've got to learn to adapt quickly when the defensive pressure is disrupting their half-court motion. They've got to try and adapt a little bit quicker in either changing the tempo or changing the tactic to continue to get and really good open looks and not kind of get caught up in the style of play that the opposition is is setting for the tone of the game.
01:02:38
Speaker
ah For Hornsby, I think they've just got to work on playing a little bit smarter with those hard shows and the switches that we saw in their half-court defense. But honestly, really liked how there was a the majority of this Hornsby team played really well together. You could see they were all buying into the same thing. There were a couple of players who I thought would have been kind of like the leaders of this team. They ended up slowing down the rest of the team.
01:03:05
Speaker
Ball would get to their hand and it would slow down, so it would kill their momentum in the half-court offense, and which I thought was a little bit disappointing for them. So hopefully they'll watch some tape and be able to identify that.
01:03:18
Speaker
But final note for both teams, please work on your free throws. And please work on your screens every week. You can always do anything. I have a high standard for free hosts, but screens.
01:03:30
Speaker
Oh, yeah. Most teams need to work on their screens. Their screens were either non-existent or very poorly set. I want to see, you know, you don't have to be the Brindabella beacon to be going to set a hard screen.
01:03:43
Speaker
You go set your feet, stand your ground. Like I want i want to see some better screens. going to ask for it. There we go. What are your final notes before we bring in our special guests?
01:03:54
Speaker
Gwyn has made her demands better screens. Yes. I mean, I think you've covered it just about perfectly. You know, COE,
01:04:08
Speaker
they play double headers every week and then go to tournaments or have camps in between. I think by the end of a second game of a weekend, they are going to be mentally fatigued and physically fatigued, even though their kids probably mentally more than physically.
01:04:20
Speaker
And I think that's probably where their lapses, you know, going one out a bit too often as the game progresses, um, Happens. And also, they do have a lot of squad for like rotation in the roster on game day because they're a development program. They've got to play all 12 guys or as close to all 12 guys as possible.
01:04:41
Speaker
So... so
01:04:46
Speaker
They don't, whilst, yes, they train every day, they also don't have the luxury of, you know, running four guys for 30 minutes a night or five guys for 30 minutes a night and throwing guys in here and there to complement that.
01:05:01
Speaker
So oh wouldn't surprise me if CLV are a team that just, you know, upward trajectory throughout the season. And these little things um disappear by the time it gets to close to finals.
01:05:17
Speaker
Yeah, let's hope so. But, yeah, that was our review of the COE and Hornsby Keringai Spiders men's game that was played on the Sunday of round five. Let us know what you think. Contact us on Instagram.
01:05:31
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Send us a DM. Just share your thoughts. Did we get it right? Or maybe we will... way way off who knows um i think we got we i think we did all right but let us know on instagram but uh all right we have our very special guests patiently waiting in the green room and just before i bring on our guests let me tell you a little bit more about them they are Born and bred in Concord West, and they're very well known across Australia, not just in New South Wales or the NBL One East, for their ability to coach at any level and any age group.
01:06:06
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They started working at Penrith Basketball Stadium from 2012, and after helping grow the grassroots basketball program at home, they were the basketball development officer at Werribee in Victoria in 2018 and then made their way back home, thankfully,
01:06:24
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ah to take on a role at Basketball NSW as the coach development manager. He is also now being the head coach of the Penrith Panthers NBL1 men's side since their inclusion in the competition.
01:06:37
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But not to be confused with the former AFL player or the budding musical theatre performer, our special guest today is none other than Jared Moore. Hello, Jared. How are you?
01:06:52
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Very well. G'day, Squint. G'day, Lockie. How are you going? Good, mate. Good, thank you. Very, very good. Thanks for having me. ah My first question was actually going to be to you, Jacinta, because I know people call you some people call you Squint, but I didn't know whether it was Squint or Squid.
01:07:13
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And then I just was going to get some clarity, but it's already on your screen, so that helps immensely. Yeah. Well, just to add some confusion, though, I do also get squint and squid as well. So squint is the original nickname, but it does come with variations that include squint and squid. So you are welcome to use one of them or make your own, you know, but whatever you're comfortable with.
01:07:40
Speaker
Well, thanks for having me on, folks. It's, um yeah, exciting. They'd always love talking about the game. Yeah, absolutely. And i will I will say before we start that we do apologize for ghosting you two years ago when we were supposed to interview you in season one. But look at us, we made It's perfectly fine. Perfectly fine. ah Lockie, would you like to um kick us off for this? I will. I will do the honours because, yes, so ah it certainly has been quite the basketball journey for you over the years. But how did it all begin?
01:08:18
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Well, being um being half Filipino, it's ah it doesn't go without culture that one of your birthdays when you're young has an uncle that has a Michael Jordan basketball set up.
Jared Moore's Basketball Journey
01:08:32
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And thankfully, that was on my sixth birthday. And it came with a Michael Jordan DVD. but But in that same time, there was a DVD going around about Shaquille O'Neal.
01:08:44
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And there was footage in the mid-90s of Shaquille O'Neal breaking backboards, and I fell in love with Shaquille O'Neal. Now, it wasn't Shaquille O'Neal that kind of got me it got me started, but it was more so that little basketball set.
01:08:59
Speaker
Then Shaquille O'Neal took me to Penny Hardaway. Then Shaquille O'Neal signed with Los Angeles Lakers, and then that made me discover the greatness of Kobe Bryant. And um Kobe Bryant in in his rookie preseason did this one crossover against the Washington Wizards right down the middle of the free throw line and yammed it on a defender.
01:09:19
Speaker
And it was just so athletically and ah like all of it was just beautiful. And I just fell in love with him as an athlete. and And then the rest is history. I just started playing all the time, trying to be like my hero Shaquille O'Neal and Kobe Bryant and Penny Hardaway on the side.
01:09:38
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um And then I got coached in high school by a famous coach around Australia by the name of Rex Nottage. And then the first year i left um first year I left high school, Coach Rex Nottage said, Jared, you should come coach for me.
01:09:53
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And so I started and i haven't left. So here I am. Here I am. Wow, that's a huge journey. I mean, you had me when you said you're half Filipino and the and I was like, oh, everything makes sense now.
01:10:09
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Just knowing that ah filipin the Filipino community have a very strong relationship with basketball. Yes, yes, that is for sure. And it has a glyph.
01:10:19
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It has a glyph. I love that you mentioned MJ and Shaq because when I was in primary school, everyone either had a Bulls hat or a Magic hat or a Jordan jersey or a Shaq jersey.
01:10:33
Speaker
My first basketball jersey, my mum... was the volunteer uniform lady at my primary school. And so she had, ah when the lost property got to, you know, the cutoff date with throwing out the lost property for the year, she was always able to look through it. And my first basketball jersey came because some kid lost this Shaquille O'Neal oh jersey at a mufty day and it was sitting in lost property for the entire school year.
01:11:01
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And so it's still hanging up in my wardrobe. The kid that lost him could have been Andrew Gaze, mate. You never know. So it could have just been handed down from one generation to another.
01:11:12
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but And a good shout out to Penny Hardaway as well, right? Yes. But also when I was eight or nine years old, i actually wrote the Orlando Magick a letter and I found their address somewhere.
01:11:25
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And then I sent them this letter all the way from inner West Sydney. And and like two or three months later, I got a whole gift bag of Orlando Magic gear.
01:11:36
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um But it was just so unfortunate. The Orlando Magic sucked for so long. And I just followed Shaquille O'Neal wherever he went. So I ended up becoming a Kobe Bryant and Lakers fan, but no longer, no longer a Lakers fan. Can't do it. Too painful.
01:11:55
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Who do you follow now instead? Oh, just gold standard of organizations, really. So ah the Spurs, the Thunder, the Thunder have me very intrigued at the moment. They've done it very well for a long time.
01:12:08
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um The Nuggets and the Celtics and the Heat, though, in terms of organizational gold standards, um they are just next level. and And I'm sure a lot of those organizations are next level, but they really separate themselves out of from the rest of the pack.
01:12:27
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Yeah, I think if you're seeing yourself in the NBA, you must be doing it. And, I mean, you talked about this teams like the Spurs and the Heat. That's been two decades now that they've been both been. Or even in the Spurs case, probably even longer that they've just been doing it.
01:12:43
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right Well, I mean, Eric Spolstra hasn't been sacked in nearly 20 years. So it's just an organisation that gets the ah the heartache and the problem solving that comes with a head coaching job and in the pro land. And then you see other teams just, as they do, just sack their coach maybe every season and then they keep trying to lick their wounds. So anyway, it is what it is.
01:13:06
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It is what it is.
01:13:09
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Eric hasn't looked like he's aged a day either. To say that he's been coaching 20 years, i was like, what? The only thing that's probably changed is the style of suit he wears. That's right. It's the Filipino blood skin, that's for sure.
01:13:25
Speaker
Yeah, look, i wanted I was waiting for you to say it, not me. Yeah.
01:13:32
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um So we should also mention that ah you've probably seen a lot of big changes over the years in basketball in general, given that you've been a part of the game for so long.
01:13:45
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um And especially if your coaching career started early. with under the mentorship of someone like ah Coach Nottage. I mean, that's that's a pretty high-caliber person to have introduced you to coaching.
01:13:59
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I'm interested to know a little bit more about some of the biggest change of use changes you've seen over the years in the game in regards to coaching styles, playing styles, and just overall basketball trends.
01:14:13
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Yeah. yeah well where do i even start um i would i would still consider myself a novice in terms of the coaching realm um but but watching watching over the past 15 15 and 20 years of of what coaches have been doing ah coaches have been able to to access film of pro teams more more accessibly so their ability to pick up international concepts is far greater you're starting to see similarities of concepts at earlier ages um at an international level and uh and and i don't think that's such a bad thing because what used to happen
01:14:56
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ah is that coaches would just try to pick up the concepts and style of play from the best master coach that they had closest to them. um Whoever that was, whether it was flex, whether it was crackdown, whether it was four out pass and cut, whether it was shuffle, it doesn't matter.
01:15:16
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Coaches just, especially coaches in Australia, A lot of our coaches are volunteers, so they just need to try to find a style of play that they understand very quickly that doesn't take them so much time to teach and then roll out effectively So they just go to their neighbor and be like, hey, what offense are you running? I'm running flex. Oh, tell me all about it and tell me how to teach it.
01:15:38
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That's what they used to do. Now, and so a lot of the coaches are still doing that. But now a coach in the middle of Byron Bay can look up the concepts and watch the film over and over and over again of what the 2024 Miami Heat were running.
01:15:51
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And then that's what their under-12 boys team would be running. I'm not saying that happens, but just the that the access to that kind of knowledge is um unreal. And in terms in terms of the coaching, I've definitely seen – um coaches aren't so ah strong personality on their kids these days, um like the screaming and the shouting. and And there's a lot more, there's a lot more awareness holistically about what the athletes are going through in their whole life, which I think is a great thing.
01:16:23
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um And, and, and it really goes to show that coaches are continuously thinking about the athlete as a whole and what they're going through because, you The way that we were brought up compared to the way that our grandparent grandparents were brought up, completely different creatures.
01:16:38
Speaker
So there's there's a lot more that goes into the the teaching of athletes of these days. So a lot of coaches these days have are picking up the skills of listening more, trying to be more empathetic, um trying to get feedback regularly, trying to work collaboratively, the power of questioning.
01:16:57
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um and And not only that, but but trying to use drills that aren't so much in a straight line, but are... constraints on play where you can manipulate the skills and the concepts that you're trying to extract.
01:17:13
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Otherwise known as the constraints led approach, which is a whole bunch of kids would play and then the coach would say, all right, everyone, you're not allowed to dribble. That's unfair, coach. Yeah, it might be unfair, but you've got to figure it out.
01:17:25
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And then they're starting to develop skills that way because the game, as you know, is a lot more chaotic than what it looks like. on television. So yeah, yeah it's ah I've definitely seen a ah change of style, but the one thing that hasn't changed is that coaches are always trying to find ah the quick hit thing that will help their kids that they think will take them to the next level.
01:17:48
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When Andre Lamanis was coaching the Boomers, um he was running the flow offense, and then the whole country got obsessed with the flow offense. And then it was like, wow, that looks really cool. But what people don't understand was that Andre Lamanis is an offensive savant, and he understood how to teach it, and he understood um how to put in these intricate details.
01:18:09
Speaker
And he also had one of the best passing bigs in the world in Andrew Bogut. ah But the rest of the country didn't have an Andrew Bogut. So they had to figure out these pieces. And you'll still see concepts of flow around in in world basketball. So um it's really fascinating to kind of watch this journey. And it's just going to go full circle again. Like the thing that i keep hearing around in in coaching circles is...
01:18:31
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what's old is new again so shuffle's gone one day and then shuffle might be back in 2030 um but it just might be a little bit of a hybrid to whatever else it might might piggyback off so yeah yeah it's uh there's a lot to take from that that was a fantastic answer uh i don't know if you had that pre-prepared but that was that was amazing really was Yeah, that was great. I don't think I've been floored by such a great answer in ah in a while a Scott game.
01:19:11
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Left a stunt, but, I mean, short short response. ah Let me subscribe to it all all of it, all of that you just said. ah Certainly can resonate with your points made about the differences in styles of coaching are now compared to yesteryear where it's not all – ah yelling and fear-based and certainly more of a holistic approach to an athlete and a player regardless of their skill set ah because ultimately you still want people to be involved in the game one way or another i mean not everyone that you're going to coach and meet um
01:19:50
Speaker
as a coach who has the aspirations to go and play for Australia and will need all of that kind of specific kind of discipline and whatnot. They just want to play because they want to play it and we've got to try and keep people involved in the game.
01:20:04
Speaker
as much as we as much as we can, however they want, right? No, exactly right. and And the best coaches I've seen do it have been incredibly authentic um and has had a very strong connection to the care of their athletes.
01:20:18
Speaker
And I've seen it work in all facets. I've seen strong personalities still instill fear in their athletes, but every time their athletes walk away, they still say, Jared, I loved playing for that coach.
01:20:31
Speaker
Because they just called me out on all my effort and all my BS. um And sure, it was scary, but that was the hardest thing I ever did. And I loved it. But then on the other side, I've also had athletes be like, wow, that coach was really inquisitive. And we spent a lot of time and we built a big relationship.
01:20:49
Speaker
But I don't think they ever yelled at me once. um but the but the thing that it keeps reverting back to um is is that coach truly being themselves and do they deeply understand why they're doing a particular thing and um yeah as you know even for both of you even as adults we're still trying to figure out who we are until uh date dot so yeah it's uh it's really a fun journey uh and a fun adventure to kind of witness these things from my seat
01:21:18
Speaker
Yeah, the transparency and the authenticity goes a long way. i can already think of a couple of coaches I've had. i remember my under 18s rep coach was ah former WNBL assistant coach. So he was a very good coach, implemented a lot of new things to our team. We hadn't learned before that was very suitable to our skill set and our strengths.
01:21:42
Speaker
So that was great. Took our team um really to its potential. But actually scared the life out of me to the point where 10 years later he's coming into JB Hi-Fi as a customer and I'm running to the back room because I was still scared of him.
01:21:57
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know what I mean? Like that kind of fear versus the other kind of fear that almost like not like almost like a kind of fear that you touched on as well. Holding players accountable.
01:22:08
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But, you know, and you don't need to be, you don't need to do that in a mean way. You don't need to yell and scream at someone to hold them accountable. It's just kind of objectively saying, hey, this is what I saw. This is what you need to get better at.
01:22:20
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That's almost like ah fear in a way of, oh, crap, like I've been seen and I need to fix it, but not kind of degrading you as a person, which I think is a massive difference.
01:22:33
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Yeah, no, 100%. 100%. Completely agree. Yeah. completely agree um But, da I mean, you you called yourself a novice in the coaching game and then gave an answer like that. So I'm not not sure about that.
01:22:49
Speaker
ah But what what are your aspirations as a coach?
Ambitions for Basketball's Global Growth
01:22:56
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Very good question. ive I very much... um I very much enjoy the coach education space. When I was a young coach, um I thought I had aspirations to coach in the NBA.
01:23:12
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um And then I jumped on a coaching tour to um and NBA Summer League back in 2017 and realized, yeah, that's not what I want. Like, it's it there's just something about it that that um doesn't make it feel right.
01:23:30
Speaker
And then um the development officer's space, the development officer's space is interesting because but when you start coaching basketball, you don't coach basketball in Australia to drive a Ferrari one day.
01:23:43
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um but But one thing, One thing that definitely ah that definitely happens is that you'll be emotionally moved. Well, especially for the emotional ones out there, you'll be emotionally moved by the things that kids will end up doing with their lives.
01:23:59
Speaker
um but a lot lot Some of the athletes that I've coached, one athlete has gotten to play in the summer league. um and and that was next level but the the first time you see one of your kids uh make a new make a new south wales state team or any state team it gives you a chill down your spine and then next minute they put on the australian jersey that puts a chill down your spine the next minute they sign a pro contract and you think oh i did not see this coming and then next minute they get an invite to nba summer league and it's like wow i did not see that coming whatsoever
01:24:32
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um and And every time you just see one of your former kids take the next step, it's just um incredibly special. So to get back to your question, Lockie, there there was a day where I thought I wanted to coach pro ball.
01:24:45
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um I still very much enjoy coaching, but I realized as a development officer, if I could coach 100 kids in a day, and that would have a huge impact.
01:24:57
Speaker
But then I thought about, well, if I could help 100 coaches, that's 1,000 And now I'm changing way more lives. And then who knows that coach could then move on to coach another 50 kids and you've impacted way more lives. So um i've I've kind of gotten addicted to the feeling of helping as many people as I as i can.
01:25:20
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um And I think one of the aspirations for me to kind of do this either for our country or another country or for FIBA one day.
01:25:31
Speaker
um I would really love to get out there and just continue to grow the game and help as many people as possible. And, um you know, just try the ambitious goal of making basketball the number one sport of the world and, you know, leave soccer in the dust um and let cricket know that, ah you know, you can play cricket in the heat or ah in the in the nor in the icy poles of Antarctica and the Arctic.
01:25:54
Speaker
um We just need to build a four-court stadium in those places and we'll be all good. So... Yeah, yeah. Those are my crazy aspirations, mate.
Coaching Insights and NBA Aspirations
01:26:04
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you You're not the first development manager coach education um, manager or to have said that coach it to make the relation between when you're a coach, you coach X number of players. But if you are a coach education, you coach X times X people to make it, you can make an exponential difference. It's, um, and I, I like that you brought up that you originally wanted to coach in the NBA. Cause I think that's, um,
01:26:36
Speaker
You know, something we all, when we talk about dreams, like if you play cricket, oh, you're meant to want to be the next Shane Warne. You play basketball, you're meant to want to be the next MJ. You but, and if you don't make it there, you can still love the sport and be involved or find your passion for the sport in another way.
01:26:57
Speaker
Yeah. No, 100%, 100%. But if you realistically want to be an NBA coach one day, you've got to get up every day at 4am, put in the work. Yeah. Yeah. No secret.
01:27:08
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No secret. Yeah, was going to ask you because you mentioned you had an opportunity to go as an assistant coach to Summer League and that's when you learnt that, hey, this isn't for me. No, not as an assistant coach, just to be clear, but just as an observer in the background.
01:27:23
Speaker
Oh. Yeah, yeah. So, sorry. No, no, I'm not that big of it big of of ah of a coach. But, no, the ah coach, Liam Flynn, had a coach's tour.
01:27:34
Speaker
that takes coaches to some way. And I jumped on the one in 2017 and learned so many lessons and got to meet so many coaches. And yeah, I was absolutely unbelievable for for what I learned on that trip. But yeah.
01:27:50
Speaker
Yeah. What was, so what was some of the main things that you did learn on that trip that thought that made you kind of decide in your mind, actually, this isn't for me. ah guess, for example, having to get up at 4am to do your job.
01:28:03
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Yeah. um
01:28:06
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Now, that's tracking back the memory. Now, the higher the positions of the people that we met, the higher the quality of the human beings that they were, which is no surprise. I mean, they're world-class organisations. Good people are hiring good people.
01:28:24
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um the During that time, the the old Philadelphia 76ers general manager who had the who had the slogan, tank or titles.
01:28:37
Speaker
His name was what, Squinn? Can you remember? Sam... Presti? No, not Sam Presti. He was a showcase team. Oh, I'm going to be useless with this, to be honest. No, no.
01:28:51
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but But he he was a remarkable human being. He was the one that that got the number one pick to draft Ben Simmons to the 76ers. um And he's since then, he's been sacked. But, you know, the thing I still remember the meeting with him.
01:29:08
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Like, he was just such a sponge. But whenever he gave you an answer, it was just so thought out. and compact um and i remember meeting this gentleman and um not a very big gentleman but incredibly intelligent and uh i i just remembered him talking about um everything that they did at the 76ers at the time was data driven there was numbers behind everything so that whenever we needed to come to measure decisions it was logical
01:29:41
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So every time a guy came into the gym and got shots up, they had cameras tracking every shot that they did, no matter the workout. So that whether they were just standing there being casual or whether they're doing a ones or three sessions or a full team session, every shot for that individual was counted and shot charted.
01:30:00
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And then those numbers were plastered somewhere. Um, And and it it was little things like that that got me thinking about um the evidence based approach and then down this path of constraint led and then more research based stuff and more and more smart people started to make themselves known in social media. And then the the sharing of information just exploded.
01:30:24
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um And I remember him talking
Visiting Penrith Panthers and Leadership Lessons
01:30:26
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about um what it's like to be a leader at the NBA and very similar to to the bus analogy about, you know, you're you're really just the bus driver, of the bus. But I remember him talking about you're really just the captain on the ship.
01:30:39
Speaker
You're not necessarily you're not necessarily steering it, but you're just making sure that everyone's doing their job headed towards the North Star. And that just that just never left me. um If I if I took something from that trip, it was probably that.
01:30:55
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um Just it started a snowball and a rabbit hole of how you can think change things organisationally and culturally. And it was just phenomenal.
01:31:08
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You talk about evidence-based approach. Obviously, the Penrith Valley Regional Sports Centre doesn't have 40 cameras in the roof to ah track everything. But how how do you...
01:31:18
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not yet How do you implement that that in a space where you you probably ah you have more data than now than you've ever had, but it's still several tiers below what professional teams have?
01:31:31
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Yeah, yeah. And and we're very we're still very lucky to have ah immense data coming out. I mean, we've got synergy um in access to us as a coaching as a coaching fraternity at this level.
01:31:42
Speaker
um And we also, thankfully, have the great efforts of Duncan Berg doing some advanced stats, for for a lot of competitions around the country um so so hoops db.net if you're hearing that for the first time you need to jump on it um and he pumped out some unbelievable advanced stats but if if we're doing things at the stadium i mean constraints lead to innovation we we could just get smartphones to record it we can get We can get ah development coaches to kind of chop up the film for us.
01:32:14
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We've got Glory League at our stadium, but it's not on all the time. So but if we ever get if we ever get the footage to go down that path and we have the time to chop it down, then that's what we'll do.
01:32:25
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um but But typically the numbers that that get spit out by Synergy and HoopsDB is great evidence enough for us. I'm so glad you mentioned HoopsDB because I'm on it before this, before every episode.
01:32:41
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It's what I use for all the stats we did for the pre preview shows. It's, yeah, honestly, yeah one of the one of the best best tools we have. And it's free and just available for anyone to have a look at.
01:32:54
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Yeah, yeah. And he's doing some unbelievable work, Coach Duncan. So all the all the credit and power to him.
01:33:02
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Yeah, best almost best kept secret. And then there's synergy as well, which I need to spend the day learning. but the the The word synergy just always reminds me of ah the original series of The Office when David Brent talks about synergy.
01:33:19
Speaker
Yeah, that's right. Another deep deep cut TV reference there for this episode. I think I'm up to three now or at least two. Anyway, i digress. I digress. Uh, but, uh, are there many learnings you take from each of your roles at BNSW and at Penrith that you can use with the other, you know, transference of skills, so to speak?
01:33:46
Speaker
Yeah, I'm kind of, um, I kind of give myself my own cheat code sometimes because sometimes, uh, a lot of the resources and, and, um,
01:33:58
Speaker
development things that we share with coaches around New South Wales are already on my desk that I'm kind of trying to dive deep into. um As well as it the the the other thing that's also very lucky is the the access and the ability to connect with such high caliber coaches, um no matter the sport. Like just the other week,
01:34:25
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my Our coaching staff at Penrith were very lucky enough to um to go visit the Penrith Panthers footy club and um just go visit the facility, chat with the GM. And we seriously spent two hours with them.
01:34:38
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And they just unpacked how they shifted things culturally for their club over the past 12 years. um And then how they got down the process of being back-to-back-to-back-to-back champions in the and NRL team.
01:34:50
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which has never been done. um And it was just so interesting to just be in the same room and just listen to a couple of their youth coaches, the GM and their chairman, just talk about just these absolute
Building Basketball Identity in Western Sydney
01:35:05
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magical things. And and one of the things that I took away was um we went into their film room.
01:35:12
Speaker
And in their film room, they had this little sign um that was facing the athletes as as they sit down. And the and the the thing on the sign said, don't ever leave this room confused.
01:35:25
Speaker
And it was just little things like that, just little messages to just everything was catered to ensure that the education of the athletes was at its maximum.
01:35:36
Speaker
um And that's the shtick that they were going for. They were trying to be the best at the league at at being the best educators of their athletes. um And it was just absolutely magical to to witness that and and to feel as well. So it's no wonder that vept there um that they had the success over the past few years that they've had.
01:35:58
Speaker
And now with the change of leadership, now they're just going through a process of trying to rebuild that again. So come on the Penrith Panthers in the footy, that's for sure. But then vice versa, on the other side, the things ah and and being on the sideline coaching in NBL One East, um I can also get a feel of being on the front lines of of what our coaches in New South Wales also need to get better to help their development.
01:36:22
Speaker
And and and ah From an NBL1 East level, I'm only getting that feel, but at least I still get to coach and be on the front lines with the other coaches. And hopefully that will take me down a path where a coach says to me, Jared, I feel like we're missing this in our development.
01:36:38
Speaker
And then i can go back to my role at BNSW and try to do something about it. um to the best of my ability. So um yeah, it very much works hand in hand. So, and Brett Coxage, my boss, is who's an unbelievable human being, hey um he allows me to to not only do my job, but also gives me the ability, along with Maria, allowing me to to coach an NBL One East team. So So work is priority, but but being being in the season, definitely have to sacrifice the time to um do our best and and have my focus there for sure.
01:37:17
Speaker
Sorry, i only chuckle a little bit when you mentioned Brett because I've known Brett since I was, he was the i had he was the ITC head coach when i was in ITC.
01:37:27
Speaker
yeah That was a long time ago now. think Brett Kocknich has been everyone's head coach at some stage. Oh, yeah. And he he was scary back then, Jared. And if you didn't have your diary up to date by next ITC camp, look out.
01:37:43
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Yes, yes. And that's the thing I appreciate appreciate about Brett is that he definitely does not share any fluff with you. And I mean, what else could you ask for in ah in a boss and and a mate? That's for sure.
01:38:00
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Yeah, that's right. There's certainly a time to be, like we were talking before, direct and objectively direct. You don't have to be mean about it. No. You can tell him when you see him at work tomorrow that I that i that i still remember the but how strict he was with our diaries at ITC.
01:38:17
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but But bring up a really good point. when you speak When you spoke earlier about how your aspirations is to, you know, really in coaching education because then you're indirectly accessing ah providing education to more players by providing the education of the coaches.
01:38:37
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I think a lot of times people forget how like there's a lot of discussion about how there aren't enough venues for kids to play and there's heaps kids that want to play not enough venues, not enough space, etc.
01:38:51
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And that's all great. And then when it comes to the time where the kids want to start playing reps and they can't get in a team because there's not enough coaches, or they have to like rely on parents to coach rep teams. Then they wonder why the kids aren't getting developed.
01:39:05
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That to me in combo of what you said about coaches education and then not having enough good coaches in rep programs identifies like a really, really big gap in basketball development in general.
01:39:18
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You know, there's so much onus and so much resources now for athletes to go and ah improve, develop their skills as an individual. But if they don't have kind of like the right coaches around them, then their development's only going to go so far. so what have you noticed, I guess, from and administrative level or even a club level,
01:39:39
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that a lot of the local clubs are really good at in terms of recruiting great coaching talent or areas that you feel like needs and has a big room for improvement.
01:39:51
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um So just for clarity on your question, Squin, you're asked about what's going on at the community level with coaches and what the problem is?
01:40:03
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Yeah, I guess like it just seems like a really big gap in a sense of, like there's so much development in players and there's not enough in coaches like, and is other clubs from your perspective, taking any responsibility with that uh, yeah. What, what, what do you feel like needs to be, I guess, improved in, in club land and grass grassroots level or even rep level?
01:40:26
Speaker
No. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you for clarifying the, um, the growth of the game is unbelievable like you and i both know and lucky included 20 years ago getting ah an australian kid drafted um in the nba or wnba was really are we going to have an australian nba like we just need to get them signed as a free agent there's no chance in the australian kids going to get drafted in the nba and it was only a couple years ago the first kid from sydney and josh green got drafted by the dallas mavericks And then hopefully this year, Tyrese Proctor.
01:41:00
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So that's two kids, two kids. And then Shiloh Hill got drafted in the WNBA a few years ago. So there's three kids from Sydney getting drafted into the and NBA. So,
01:41:11
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so it's ah the The great thing about that is it's increased such a belief in a lot of our juniors that they too can also do the same thing. So the growth of the game is unbelievable.
01:41:24
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um We had a target as an organisation about how many players we wanted as members a couple of years ago. and and when where our numbers specialists at work did the digits, we actually exceeded that.
01:41:39
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um and And we don't have enough spaces. So the amount of people that are interested in playing basketball are very high. And I'm not surprised because we have so many people just spreading so much healthy enthusiasm around the
Supporting Rural Basketball Talent
01:41:54
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game.
01:41:54
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and there And there's this like underdog sense of belief about Australian basketball that we can do this, whatever this is. Like, you know, it's just the fist now, but it could be an NBA championship on an Olympic gold medal, whatever it is.
01:42:09
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um And our clubs are doing a phenomenal job of trying to figure out how they can cater to these parties. and And I see it all the time.
01:42:20
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Like one of the administrative benefits that I have in my role is having staff announcements. And some of the most exciting staff announcements that I see is there's another association coming on board.
01:42:35
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Three months later, there's another association coming on board. Three months later, there's another association coming on board. Oh my Lord, like all these areas and sometimes these towns yeah we haven't heard from from a long time are coming back to the game.
01:42:49
Speaker
So like it's absolutely magical to see it. So from an administrative standpoint, I'm seeing a lot of people people fight tooth and nail to try to figure it out for their community.
01:43:01
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And a lot of these communities might might agree or disagree with what their administration is doing, but that's beside the point. The whole point is, is that someone's putting in effort to try to figure out how to get basketball up and running in their town or in their suburb or in their region, wherever it is.
01:43:21
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um and and in relation to coaching sometimes these coaches are x plays coming back to the game um and then their kids have aged out or they're just starting to pick up an interest and and now that their kids starting to play they're starting to come in to want to coach so um there there's never enough people to help educate these coaches but But Basketball Australia and and us in all other states and associations are trying to pump out resources where coaches can find accessible things to try to solve these problems.
01:43:55
Speaker
So we're doing things like online coaching courses and we're doing things like pumping out a whole bunch of YouTube videos and drills on Instagram and Twitter and there's more online courses from BA and look what basketball Canada figured out and look, look at this person bouncing a ball at the top of the tree at Mount Kosciuszko. Like what the hell is going
Coaching Community and Mentorship
01:44:18
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on?
01:44:18
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Um, so it's, ah it's, I'm seeing a lot of effort, but, um, as you know, mate, like if a lot of people put in all this effort and then the numbers surpass the amount of people that can help them, people get frustrated because there's no one here to help me. I don't have a feedback loop and, and, uh,
01:44:37
Speaker
And then some of them end up leaving the game. But that's where we as ah as a whole, coaches just need to continue helping other coaches. And in my young career, it was definitely my mentor coach that helped me, especially when I got into people.
01:44:51
Speaker
um When I was about to quit coaching, they were the ones that said, no, you shouldn't quit coaching. You need to stay because of this. And I'm so glad that happened or else I probably wouldn't be here.
01:45:02
Speaker
um I'd probably, you know, be doing ah another job that isn't as cool and as a fun as this.
01:45:10
Speaker
Wow. Really surprising to learn that you almost quit coaching as well. ah Given how much knowledge you have and obviously how much passion you have, not just for basketball, but being able to educate others and, you know, really bring everyone else up with you in your community. Surprising that to hear that you had that sort of quitting at some stage. um But I imagine everyone needs kind of that crossroads to ah so kind of figure out exactly where they want to go and what they want to do
01:45:43
Speaker
And I'm really glad, though, that you said that as coaches or encouraging coaches to support each other ah because funnily enough in the last week I've spoken to two coaches MBL one head coaches from two different conferences ah for different things.
01:45:59
Speaker
And I was basically like, look, have you got it? Can you put this in your coach's chat? There's a particular player who is an import is looking for a club and they're like, oh, we don't have a coach's chat. I don't really talk to the other coaches.
01:46:10
Speaker
don't really support each other. and don't I'm not really friends with them. And I was really, really surprised because ah just kind of had this idea in my head that ah everyone was besties and was was in a bit of a group chat, you know, comparing notes and things like that. But I guess that's not the case.
01:46:27
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No, it's a very competitive space, but it's highly professional. um some Sometimes really great mates can battle off against really great mates. And then the week leading up to it, there's no talking. But then after it,
01:46:40
Speaker
whatever the result, then it goes back to talking. So, yeah, those those things happen regularly. Respect. Respect the boundary. That's right. That's right.
01:46:56
Speaker
And da circling back to coaching and NBL One, tell us about the program, the NBL One Men's Program at Penrith. What is the identity that you're trying to build around this NBL one men's team?
01:47:13
Speaker
Yeah, well, um um the identity we we wanted to build is really an extension of of the community. I mean, as you know, Western Sydney and Penrith is a very blue collar area.
01:47:26
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um And and there's also there's also a mix of of of white collar in there as well. But the the thing that I respect about um the community in Penrith is that there's a lot of integrity and a lot of hard work. And it and it really it really got me addicted to coaching the kids out there because ah if you coach a ah few of the kids out there, that they' no matter the age, mate, they'll tell you the truth of what they're thinking.
01:47:53
Speaker
And and i I really, really appreciated that as a young coach. um And it kind of I kind of also really enjoyed that like chip on the shoulder of the kids that were coming out of the area. I mean, the clubs produced the likes of Josh Green, Tali Tupaya, Matt Nilsson, Ben Knight.
01:48:12
Speaker
And like a lot of these players ended up playing for Australia and and even a couple of them captaining. ah And it's just absolutely magical. So the the blue collar work ethic that comes with the honesty and the integrity, but but it's also the grittiness and the fight of the kids out there that that is addictive to coach.
01:48:36
Speaker
um So the identity of the team has really evolved over these past three years. When we came in in year one, we weren't really sure how we were going to shape this and what we had in front of us. So we kind of selected a team at trials and then just gave season one a stab.
01:48:51
Speaker
um and then And then we had an idea and and we implemented some lessons that we learned from season one into season two. And then in season two, then it started to become clear about the direction that we wanted to take it And now that we're up to season three, we've just absolutely doubled down on investing in in local kids in the area, as well as bringing an import to kind of um to complement that as well. So, I mean, we've got the best of the Western region, if any kids in the Western region want to play or Western Sydney.
01:49:24
Speaker
I mean, we've got McCool from Blacktown and we've've got we've got ah Jack McWilliams, who's a product of MacArthur basketball, Camden Valley basketball in Bankstown. and And we've got Miguel Campos, who's a Camden Valley junior via Bankstown to Penrith.
01:49:40
Speaker
um And then we've also got the like of Zeke Evans, who's ah who's a Lithgow legend and a strapping young lad who's just unbelievable, um as well as a whole bunch of Penrith local kids from Fatui Fahmaui twins to Jonah Perez, who I've been coaching since he was nine years old.
01:49:58
Speaker
um to to NBL veteran Ben Kearans and University of Albany product Adam Luka who comes from the mountains. So it's just, um it's absolutely special the the identity that we've built over these past three years.
01:50:14
Speaker
um And we figured out something ah that we want to hold on to every year But, um yeah, I just absolutely love coaching the kids out there. And the men are the same.
01:50:26
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I just have a huge soft spot for them. And, um and yeah yeah, that's what we've kind of doubled down on as our identity. Just blue-collar kids just coming out of Western New South Wales.
01:50:38
Speaker
And is the Western New South Wales region something you really want to focus on tapping into? Because obviously the women's team's got Tegan and Malik. You've had Sezi and then Matthews before.
01:50:48
Speaker
And now you've got Zeke. is Is that really something you want to fight? I know that the Pendle's Panthers Rugby League team do it really well. They really target, you know, over the mountains. Is that something you are trying to try to tap into?
01:51:01
Speaker
Yeah, well, it's definitely... um Yeah, definitely a public ambition that I won't hide. i think it'd be silly to basically say no to kids in the Western region. If there's a kid from Dubbo that wants to play NBL1, I'm not going to make him drive all the way to Maitland or to the Central Coast to play when he can just drive two and a half hours down the road to get to training if that's what he wants to do.
01:51:23
Speaker
or she wants to do. so And I understand there are kids from the Western region that have played for other clubs. That's no problem at all. And I'm not going to undermine any other coach to try and get these players back to the region. That's certainly not our MO.
01:51:37
Speaker
But if they if there's a kid in the Western region that wants to stay home for a bit while they try um but while while they stay home and they want to play at the highest level that they possibly can at NBO1, then they can... certainly do that penrith so yeah we we just try to try to put a huge uh emphasis on on developing a product with local kids and i think we're doing that well much he's own cooper crow there you go there's one for you yeah yeah and is such an unbelievable kid like i remember coaching him three years ago at a little plays clinic in mudgie
01:52:16
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um And he was this 14 year old kid that was about six foot, six foot one, incredibly raw. But to see him go from that to where he is now, like he blew people away at under 18 nationals.
01:52:31
Speaker
And he was he was making things look easy against Vic Metro kids that have been playing four times a week since they were five. And good on him, mate. Good on him. And he's exactly an example of a Western region, New South Wales country kid um and and talent that we want to want to tap into.
01:52:51
Speaker
what was his junior club? Because i don't there isn't a club in Mudgee, is there? No, there is. There is. There is. There is. we were we yeah mudgy we were We were dead and buried almost for a while, but we're back. We've got a four or five teams in Western Junior League this year.
01:53:06
Speaker
Yeah. Wow. thank Mudgee Lake is... That's right. we've We've got two lakes and we are let everyone know about it. but but know like I've got to give a shout out, Squinn and Lockie, to the hard people working out there. Four years ago was the first time I met Jeff Robinson and Jeff was really trying to do everything everything by himself and we ran a coaching clinic out there. So we had about 17 coaches, a couple from Narromine, maybe a dozen from Mudgee and then a few others from local area.
01:53:38
Speaker
And then next minute, one of the coaches from that course ended up being the volunteer director of coaching. So he ended up stepping in, started to inject enthusiasm in the whole region.
01:53:50
Speaker
And then next minute, there's a whole bunch of kids starting to play. And now they've got four representative teams. And now they've got Cooper Crow representing New South Wales country. And sooner or later, they're going to have a kid playing.
01:54:02
Speaker
get drafted in the and NBA, who knows? But that's the most exciting thing is you just never know what's going to happen in these kids' lives. and But gosh darn it, I'd love to hang around to see what happens.
01:54:15
Speaker
Well, that's the thing. You've got to... You've got to kind of ah provide the right resources, the right set up, the right support and provide. I mean, it's not going to happen unless those opportunities are there for coaches and players, right? So that's a remarkable story that basketball is starting to thrive again in Mudgee and to get a New South Wales country representative, especially when you've got the powerhouses of like the Newcastle Falcons who have, you know, the highest number of,
01:54:45
Speaker
members of any New South Wales club, right, and they're a country club. um To have someone from Mudgee in a state team is outstanding. Yeah, 100%.
01:54:56
Speaker
And that's ah that's one of the things that that my my friends and work colleagues, Max Monk and Curtis Sadi, have also noticed in their role in tenure, is that while while they were the head of high-performance coaches for country in New South Wales, they've just noticed a complete influx of talent coming from all these spots around New South Wales country. And To her credit, Amelia Hassett at Kentucky, mate, coming from the snowy mountains and look at her now.
01:55:26
Speaker
Unbelievable. Unbelievable. um I didn't see that. Yeah. Not that I doubted Amelia, but oh, my God, I didn't know she was going to get that far. But good on her.
01:55:37
Speaker
Good on her. Far out. Yeah, I remember seeing her play for Wagga Wagga Heat in the State League Grand Finals or Semi-Finals, I think, in 2018. I think it was the first year I started commentating, or maybe it was 2019 in the second year I commentated, but very, very young, so already very young to be playing in State League.
01:56:00
Speaker
We knew that she was going to be good, but I was the same. I didn't expect her to be, you know, University of Kentucky starting five in a freshman year good. Yeah, yeah. Putting up double doubles in a freshman year good. Yeah.
01:56:13
Speaker
yeah Yeah. She has just flourished. Mate, that work ethic and that New South Wales country grit just never left her. Yes, definitely something to be said about country kids and country coaches. And you mentioned Narrow Mine and one of my favourite ever coaches that I got to meet during my junior career was from Narrow Mine.
01:56:34
Speaker
Greg O'Toole. Yeah, yeah, good Toole. Is still coaching? Toole is still coaching up in Tamworth. God bless him. Yeah. Of course, that's right. He's in Tamworth with Greg Irwin.
01:56:46
Speaker
Yeah, that's right. That's right. John O'Willis. Yeah, that's right. John Ireland is still up there. That's right. they're They're working their towels off up there in Tamworth, mate. There's some talent coming from Tamworth, that's for sure.
01:57:00
Speaker
sold Salt of the earth, people like that, honestly. Yeah. um Now, I was going to ask, you know, in the same vein of going back to your NBL1 men's program at Penrith, was going to ask some pretty boring questions actually in hindsight, given the ah fantastic content and and insight you've already shared with us. I was going to ask for your non-negotiables, but ah don't really care anymore compared to the amazing stuff you've already shared. So non-negotiables don't really seem like a priority.
01:57:30
Speaker
ah But um i I think a good point to touch on is a question that Lockie added to our run sheet tonight was how did not having an NBL one side in year one impact some of the future planning at Penrith? And especially, I guess, because you did speak about how part of your identity for this program is recruiting is recruiting and retaining a lot of local talent and talent from over the mountain.
01:57:55
Speaker
ah But and obviously then creating that representation and pathway for your juniors programs to stay playing and and one day aspire to play NBL one for Penrith too. But what what was the impact like of not having Penrith in that in E1? Oh, no, it was it was merely nothing, just driving with a flat tyre.
01:58:15
Speaker
um I mean, all you need to do is pull over to the side, get the tight get the spare out, change the wheels, take a little bit of time, get the hands dirty, and then yeah you couldn in you're you're as fine as anything and you're and you're going.
01:58:30
Speaker
So there were there were a couple hiccups, but nothing that wasn't manageable um because the club just wasn't sure what was going to happen with NBL 1. um in that in that year one so um i mean that's in the past now mate like now now that we've got the the program rolling um the it's definitely in a good spot and and i firmly believe in the direction that the the club is going and how it's growing um and the excitement about kids wanting to play nbl1 is there and and the youth league kids that we have coming through as well as the 18s kids that we're coming through in the women's and the men's program
01:59:08
Speaker
um It's just absolutely magical. Noah Webb is just coming back from injury. he's going to be he's gone He's going to start playing soon as well. um And we also have some fantastic 18s kids like August Stracker and Riley McNulty and and not to mention the girls on the the the girls on the junior side as well in Angie Tarko that's gone to a couple Australian camps.
01:59:32
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um And then the likes of Emma Rojas that's just been named in the under-16 Metro New South Wales team. So ah the talent that's coming out of that area is absolutely magical. And it's ah it's still a blessing to see that a lot of these kids started with Aussie hoops back in the day when I was still around.
01:59:51
Speaker
um and And now they're starting ah they're still playing and wanting to put on the New South Wales jersey and hopefully the NBL1 jersey one day. And who knows where that will take them. We might even see Emma Rojas be the starting point guard for UConn one day. You just never know.
02:00:07
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um Imagine that. And I think it says a lot about the program is that all the guys who left to play NBL1 elsewhere have come back.
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02:00:17
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Benny, Josh, Rocky Charlton, Miggy, Jonah, they've all come back to Penrith in the end, which I think is something that not every club as the is fortunate enough to have happen.
02:00:31
Speaker
No. No, there's just... um Yeah, a little mixed bag. One of them is is ah the club is local for the guys, so it's just a lot more logistically convenient. But but also, a lot of them, it just kind of feels like home to them playing at Penrith.
02:00:52
Speaker
And i completely felt that. So we did our best to try to not undermine any coaches of of other programs that these plays were a part of to try to get them back. And we try to be as transparent as possible.
02:01:06
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um But now where're we're up to the point where we're where we have a completely local talent and team um worth of plays, which we're incredibly proud of. So hopefully we we can just continue to build on that and and and see where it takes us.
02:01:24
Speaker
And Lockie, would you like to round us out with our famous final question? Our famous final question. And if it's anything like the last coach we had on, the answer will just be more basketball. But who is Jared who is jared Moore off the court?
02:01:41
Speaker
Ah, Jared Moore off the court is a optimistic, hyperactive boyfriend, son, best friend, mentee, mentor, likes to read books, likes to play video games, loves to go for um five kilometer to seven kilometer runs every now and again, and loves a great meal with a great mate, whether it's a ah over a beer or whether it's over a lunch or a dinner or brekkie.
02:02:11
Speaker
um There's nothing better than catching up with a best mate or a great mate that is also a basketball coach or even one from life. So sometimes I'll get myself in the extroverted circle and be out and about. And sometimes I'll just be completely introverted and spend time with my girlfriend at home and and play video games or read a book or just watch the latest San Diego Padres highlights because I'm a big baseball fan as well.
02:02:41
Speaker
Hmm. I'm glad you said baseball because I didn't know who that was. ah It must be nice to support a baseball team that wins games. Yes, yes.
02:02:53
Speaker
I'm a St. Louis fan, so. Oh, wow. We've had, okay, I will, speak forget to be fair, I've had a lot of success over the years. We have to cop some lead years.
02:03:04
Speaker
Well, you're not far. You've got some nice pieces, Lockie, but there there are a few gaps there, that's for sure. There are. But ah what what video games are you partial to i'm ah every Maybe once every six months, League of Legends.
02:03:22
Speaker
And i I don't know whether you've heard of League Legends, but but ah it's it's known in the gaming world as LOL. And that there's a format in League of Legends where you can play five on five.
02:03:36
Speaker
And I just loved the five on five because it felt like you were playing in a basketball team. um And you play as a hero with special abilities and you've just got to figure out how to operate with your team to defeat the opponents. I actually find it quite enjoyable. I quite miss playing it.
02:03:51
Speaker
Otherwise, i'm ah i'm currently playing Zelda Breath of the Wild. And I'm in the, yes, yes, if you know that one, Squin. I just know Zelda. Zelda's a deep cut of nostalgia for me on the 64 with a gold cartridge. So it's Zelda or anything. Yeah.
02:04:09
Speaker
Well, I'm playing it on the Nintendo Switch at the moment, so whenever I need an an escape and need to get my mind out of basketball for a second, I'll definitely jump into the open world of Zelda and do my best to try and rescue the princess. But um a lot of fails so far, so that's okay.
02:04:27
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but I do like that Lockie... or you probably You may know from if you've listened to some episodes, but video games has seem to be a common outlet for coaches and athletes we've interviewed on EGG. So we're almost creating a bit of a mental tally on what games people playing. I think that's the first time we've had League of Legends mentioned. Would that be right, Lockie?
02:04:53
Speaker
Both League of Legends and definitely the first Zelda as well. Yeah. like We've had a lot of Fortnite, a lot of FIFA, a bit of Call Duty, and Sharia Kalea plays Animal Crossing.
02:05:06
Speaker
Yeah. Wow. There you go. See, we've got a very competitive community. Everyone's just trying to kill each other virtually. agree why It's almost like the downtime from being a competitive coach or athlete is competing with other people in another platform.
02:05:23
Speaker
That's right. Just transferring the the the level of competition to something else, which is then weirdly relaxing from the main form of competition. Yes. Yes. A very healthy escape. There's nothing wrong with a good video game every now and again.
02:05:39
Speaker
But, yeah, I'm glad that you touched on as well when you need a break from basketball because ie personally definitely get basketball burnout where I need to go and do something completely opposite. And so understanding that being immersed in basketball in every facet all the time is unsustainable.
02:05:57
Speaker
So we definitely need breaks from it. Yeah, but the the other thing about that, Squin, that that I find helpful is the problems that I sometimes face in basketball can be solved if I don't think about basketball and I'm something that is unrelated.
02:06:12
Speaker
So, like ah ah like, I remember one of the best ideas I ever had came from watering the garden and I thought, holy crap, I never thought about that. and And I stopped the hose and it gave me the juice to go back to whatever I was doing.
02:06:27
Speaker
And um yeah, it was i just found it completely fascinating. So yeah, yeah. I mean, there's a lot of there's a lot of method to the madness behind doing a hobby that is away from your actual thing.
02:06:39
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So there's nothing wrong with that whatsoever.
02:06:43
Speaker
Yeah, almost like when your mind's at ease or not thinking about the thing you're supposed to be thinking about is when you'll get That your your mind will clear and the idea will come through. It's like when people do it in real life or sometimes depicted in movies and TV shows when someone has a thought in the middle of the night that wakes them up and they're like, oh, that's it. like that There's their epiphany.
02:07:04
Speaker
Their brain is at complete rest.
Conclusion and Good Egg Awards
02:07:06
Speaker
Yes, and then you're awake frat since 2am trying to figure it out. Yeah, that's exactly it. Yeah. I know what that's like. Yeah, yes, yes. I'm sure that everyone can relate to that. Everyone is at least by this stage of their life or it's by whatever stage of their life, even as a kid, they've probably had that situation where they've woken up and they're like, oh, the epiphany, that's it's it's there. That's right.
02:07:35
Speaker
But, Jared, you've been like an absolute delight. You've been such a fantastic guest for us on ESCOT Game. It was probably the first time i can remember where an answer to a question has just been so well-rounded and insightful that i we didn't know really what to say. It was yeah yeah it it stunned us with how profound ah some of your answers and how considerate and and thought-provoking they were. So we really, really appreciate you giving up your time, A, to be a guest but also being such a fantastic guest and being able to share how many layers there is to yourself as a coach and your role
02:08:17
Speaker
across our basketball community, whether it's there with your NBL1 site in Penrith or your role at BNSW. um Yeah, just fantastic insights into your interests and your intelligence and what you're offering the game. So, yeah, we really, really appreciate you being a guest, especially after we ghosted you two years ago.
02:08:40
Speaker
No, no, that stuff I'm never stressed about, never stressed about that stuff. It's all good. It is all good. But no, a big thank you to to both of you for for having me on and your continued enthusiasm to to to spread the love of the game.
02:08:57
Speaker
Like this this goes super far and you guys won't wet won't witness it, but um deep down somewhere, if it impacts one person, and it impacts many.
02:09:09
Speaker
Yeah, let's hope so. And I think that's the perfect quote to end the episode. So, yeah, best of luck for the rest of the season as well. We're definitely rooting for the Penrith Panthers and the development of the program.
02:09:22
Speaker
ah But, yeah, thanks again for being a guest. And, Lachie, what do we like to say before we wrap it up? First, we usually give out our good egg awards. We do give out our Good Egg Awards. See, what would I do without this guy, Jared, honestly? Do you want to stick around for our Good Egg Awards for round five? or Let's do it.
02:09:44
Speaker
Let's do it. All right. yeah Take it away, Lockie. Who's your Good Egg of the Week? My good egg of the week and of basically the season so far is ah Center of Excellence's own Sataya Fagan. She just keeps showing up. She's got four double-doubles and in one in six games, in one of those other games, she had nine rebounds. So near enough is good enough in my in my eyes. She's had...
02:10:11
Speaker
What else? She had six steals versus Bankstown. She's had four 20-point games. She's averaging almost 22 points a game after and 9.6 rebounds after averaging 9 and 5 last year.
02:10:23
Speaker
She's got half of D1 saved in her contacts with all the college offers she's getting. And she has just been an absolute superstar for this COE team. And I just think she's just deserving of a shout-out.
02:10:39
Speaker
she's saving that She's saving that NBL 1 East debut dunk for the finals perhaps. or and penny cause that We know she can do it. we've we've had We've had evidence. We've got evidence that she can do it. So i can't wait until she lets that unleash in the league.
02:10:54
Speaker
ah But my good egg of the week is I'm just going to give a quick shout-out to the Hills Hornets men's team who got a very important and thrilling one-point win at home over the Norse Bears on the weekend, led by Zach Hudson, who had 25 points, seven rebounds, two assists, and three steals, shooting at 52.38% overall from the field.
02:11:18
Speaker
only that second win for the season so far, but the season is still very young and they've only been losing games by one or two points here and there. So they're my good egg of the week for clinching that very tight win.
02:11:32
Speaker
And they're currently leading inner West, 48-37 in the middle of the third quarter. And Zach Hudson already has No way. Wow, Lee.
02:11:43
Speaker
There you go. well Wow, wow, wow. All right. That's a... Very timely update, Lockie. Well done. Well done on that pickup. ah This going be huge. huge If they're rolling off the the hype of the beating Norse on the weekend, transferring that into this game against Inner West, who have also been performing at a very high level so far this season.
02:12:08
Speaker
Wow. they could be There could be a robbery here on a Tuesday night. Yeah, very interesting. Very interesting. Hmm.
02:12:19
Speaker
But, yeah, now we've done the the good eggs of the week. have Hopefully haven't missed anything else. You've got it you've done everything now. All right. That's good. Are we you ready to close it out, Lockie?
02:12:31
Speaker
I certainly am ready to close it out. Don't sleep on the east.