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Too hot to hot girl summer
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It's our last episode before our Summer break! We'll be back in the fall with LOTS of goodies in store for the rest of Season THREE (how?!) 💕
We chat
- Last Bridgerton epsiode drop (obvi)
- Going slow
- Resisting the urge to go go go in a season of chillin
- Giving ourselves what we need to create 💕
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The Heat of Summer and Its Impact
00:00:00
Speaker
Do you ever feel like summer? It's hot as fuck. It's hot as fuck. It's not in a not cute way. In a not cute way Phoebe. I don't want to do a damn thing. I don't want to eat. I don't want to sit.
00:00:22
Speaker
Hi, I'm the meet suit currently operated by Phoebe Taylor. Phoebe. And I'm Jacques. And welcome to Do Your Review Like. Where we ask the questions, everyone's thinking, and no one's answering. Hi. How you doing? What's going on? Fine. I'm fine. I don't know. You're fine. You're fine. Life, like, I don't know. I feel like we have to, we have to talk about the second part of Bridgerton because we talked about the first part of Bridgerton. I will give you two minutes. Five minutes, yeah. One, five minutes, 60 seconds, whatever it is. I feel like we have to finish the, you know, we gotta put the nail in the coffin. Yeah, I think that's smart. I think that's smart. I don't know. Do you have anything to say?
00:01:15
Speaker
Is there to truly say what what could what could one possibly say? Yeah, I mean I Mean I Don't understand where we go from here Like no, I don't know I felt you know, like I all I can think that entire time was that fucking Nathan Fielder moment where it's like I Here you are. Yes. I hope you're hungry. Yes. For nothing. Like they just gave us absolutely fucking nothing. Like that second that that was like a man that promised you the world and didn't call you back. I don't I. It was Nicola Coughlin is a fucking star.
00:02:00
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She's a star, she's star material. She is so good at what she does. This yeah man from the back lot that they tapped on the shoulder and invited to come to set years ago was is, I don't know what, something. Have you seen that he's like pulled his like wife out on the PR trail with him now? His girlfriend, yes. Yeah. A Greek dancer. it's so funny. I just think it's so funny. It's like we had to like, we had to- Oh, yeah. the Yeah, we had to kind of get through. And that's it. Yeah, exactly. And then he's like- Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. God bless her. God bless her to dealing with that. I know. i It's so funny to me because
00:02:46
Speaker
In the beginning of the scene, I feel like I was i was i was i was brought in to the the story of Colin in the sense of like, ew, I was like, this man is disgusting. I was like, like the ick factor or whatever. And now I am a woman in love with Colin. I am a woman in love with Luke Newton. Now I'm a woman in love. Now I'm like, no now i'm like this man is fine. I think it's super hot. I mean, sure. It's like McDonald's. It's designed for you to enjoy. Of course. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's not really. There's no substance there. I don't know. Well, enjoy. It's funny you say that, because my entire mind takeaway from this season of Bridgerton is straight people are severely unwell.
00:03:35
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oh That's my big two. And I feel like my internet thought I was straight for a period of time while I was like watching it and I kept on getting like other straight content. Like my algorithm thinks I'm like a woman about to get married now. yeah And it's nightmarish. yeah It's nightmarish. yeah yeah yeah So that's those are my thoughts about Bridgerton. yeah Oh, most of the comments. You're vindicated though. You're vindicated though. Francesca's gay. so i I was like, yeah. I just don't understand
Bridgerton Series Critique
00:04:10
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like quite literally where we go. like I'm literally like, what are we going to do? Are we going to go to Benedict? We're not going to go to Benedict. There's no way. Are we going to do this weird, like, Eloise and Francesca are lesbians in Scotland? Like, what are we going to do? Where are we going? Oh my god. That's so us, actually. That's us.
00:04:30
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Like we gotta get off the continent like we gotta we gotta go bye Like like that like part I would watch that like, you know what I'm saying? But I'm just like I just like I'm like, where are we going? If if if next season was just violet and lord, what's his face down? We didn't even that we didn't even get that we didn't get that You know I don't know. I just like this fucking show. These fucking assholes, they take my money and they just laugh, laugh, laugh, laugh, laugh, laugh all the way to the bank. Have you seen Dairy Girls? Yeah, I loved Dairy Girls. Yeah. I did not watch it before. I've seen Bridgerton. And now I'm like. Oh, really? Oh, I love it. Now I'm going to watch, like for real, watch it. Yeah, no, it's great. That woman is.
00:05:20
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Like, oh, she's a very talented actress. And you know what? I think it's really great too. She's got one of those stories too, where she was like, I was about to quit. Like I was about to like hang up my hat and like, I got the call kind of thing. And that's always how it goes. I think about that. It's a good keep going story. Yeah. What is his name? Donald Glover GQ interview a couple yeah months ago, where he was just like, it's not about being good. It's about like, ah Holding out like there's going leave other people can't handle it. Yeah, and you just got to stick with it Oh my god, so funny. I think about that every morning when I wake up Yeah, I exactly What it went like exactly can I be a banker please? Exactly. Exactly. I've been having a lot of conversations about that lately. I did think the whole like I
00:06:13
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does she choose a man or choose her choose her passion thing in Bridgerton was like, I was like, what is this? This is like so reduct. I was very confused by the laying the whistle down component yeah because I'm like, this girl is a boss, bitch. She's out at night. She's getting her money. She's doing her life. But then she doesn't know what a penis is. I don't understand. Don't even get me started about that. That really fucking ticked me off because I was like. The idea that these women would be so like virginal, like dumb dom yeah yeah is ridiculous. It doesn't make any sense. Insane to me. That is so, I just think that we do this with history in general, right? Where we just kind of like project my modern onto, which is just like,
00:07:03
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Any kind of interpretation of anything ever right entertainment like whatever right yeah that reduction of like women in history to like ding-dongs like had no idea what was going where when like is so is like does a disservice to our ancestors, like stuff. Yes. It's so ridiculous. It's like, what were you doing all day? You were reading love novels and you were looking at naked ass drawings and like going to a museum. Like you have no idea. Like it's just like what? And that's just the average gal. If you and I in the third, fourth, fifth grade knew what was going on, women in the 16th century knew what was up. OK, so knock it off.
00:07:48
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Knock it the fuck off especially knock it the fuck off with fucking lady whistle down out here having a fortune from being a successful businesswoman Yeah, but she has no idea like it's just like it and also the incongruency of the fact that Somehow she kind of understood and consented to what was happening in the carriage But then like the next day she didn't know what sex what I was like this is I know Anyways, yeah Well, anyway. Bridgerton.
Seasonal Preferences and Climate Concerns
00:08:20
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Bridgerton. So summer is here. Do you ever feel like summer? It's hot as fuck. It's hot as fuck. It's not in a not cute way. In a not cute way, Phoebe. I don't want to do a damn thing. I don't want to eat. I don't want to sit. Oh.
00:08:38
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Oh my God, no, I haven't been able to eat like all week. And it's like, makes me feel sick, the concept of food. I've just been like, forcing smoothies into me, which also I just think I'm too, like, even when I'm like eating a smoothie, I'm like, why is this the... Because it really is weird. You're like chewing and there's like bits and they're like, what the fuck? Like, why is this better? Why is this a thing? Yeah, like I yeah, I I have like I don't know I feel very lucky I like a lot of food like I'm not a picky eater at all but like when it gets hot like this all my like sensory shit just like Gets so intense and I can't like everything is disgusting to me. Yeah the concept of food So I've just been like smoothie and don't think about it I think that's key don't think because if you think about it for too long
00:09:35
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No, that's like the rule that should be our rule like period like don't think about anything don't think think no thoughts empty brain. No feel a little 16th century woman Apparently God oh I think yeah, I think that think the summer looks like the heat I do think I have I Wasn't a summer girl. I've never been a summer girl. I don't know about you I don't know if you've been like a summer person. I don't know like your life. I don't know Yeah, I'm a spring person. I love flowers. I love fall. I've never really been like a summer person until quite recently I've like I
00:10:11
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been like okay about like a beach, or like a hot day, or whatever. And now, i and like this summer, because I mean, ah we're recording this, technically two days after summer technically has come. Oh yes, it's true, we just had the... Solstice the solstice and unlike the first day of summer and I feel like these people out here have been acting like summers been here for a month Which I'm like, no, no, no, it has been spring like we're not why are we trying to like jump into? I know we have my spring in May like I don't like that No, cuz it's been fucking hot, but it's so hot and then it's like, how do we continue on? How do we continue on Phoebe when it is this hot? Oh?
00:10:52
Speaker
I don't know. And we live, like, north. I don't know. north I live in Pennsylvania. Like, exactly. Like, I'm like, how is this? Like, how? This is not sustainable. And it's scary. No. Don't think about it. I mean, once again, don't think about it. Don't think. Don't think. I always think it's so funny. and Like, you know, boomers are like in February. They're like, gorgeous day outside. And I'm like, you're not going to be here. So shut up. Like, I'm so glad you get to enjoy this. Yeah. i just like I don't know I don't know I don't know how to enjoy summer ah with this like looming despair of climate change like I just don't it's not cute I don't I don't know if I want to like frolic around I don't know like yeah I think know like
00:11:44
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something I have really been trying to do with just like everything in my life is like, I think like, it sounds so basic, it sounds so basic, but I think like we spend so much mental in energy like gaslighting ourselves all the time. Like for to everything that we do, we're like, oh, this is fine. Like, yeah, I'm cool with this like, fucked up way you're treating me are like, yeah, like I always want to do this thing or I don't know, like, yeah, like this sex is fine or this food's good or like whatever. I think we spend so much time just trying to like just abandoning ourselves. That's what it really is. Just abandoning ourselves and for the sake of other people. And I think or just for, you know, quote unquote, like, you know, the idea, the concept of like mental peace or something like that. Yeah. Yeah. But I
00:12:32
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have found like the more in my life, the more I actually spend time with like the hard thing, or not even just hard thing, like uncomfortable thought, instead of just being like, oh, this really stresses me out, not gonna think about it anymore, not gonna do anything about it. like The more I actually like investigate that, I don't know, like the more capable I feel. How am I gonna do this? This is four months, this is the next three or four months of the year. which is like wild to think about. I'm like, how am I gonna have the next three or four months of my life? How am I gonna make the best of the situation? You know? So I've got some summer activities planned, which is what we do, right? We say what is like- Wait, one second. Are you fucking eating popcorn right now on this podcast? No, I'm not eating it, I'm just holding it. Okay. I was like- I'm not eating it. What a crazy-
00:13:26
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to interrupt you for that. Why are you holding it? I don't know, because I had the thought at the beginning of this to have a popcorn. And then I said, no, I can't. I'm on a podcast. And so I just kept it in my hand. So I bit. OK, great. In my hand. Great. OK, great. I love it. Yeah. Fidget. OK. Popcorn. Anyways, so I've been thinking about, OK, how am I going to survive this summer? Which is what we do. like We make plans. We make vacations. we go like We go and we do things. We have activities. I think I want to have an indoor summer. I don't wanna go outside. You don't wanna go outside. Well, it's just too hot. It's so hot. It's just too hot. Like it's not okay outside. No, it's like- People are losing their minds. People are dying. I think people die. I think it's like the number, people die from like the heat more than any other natural disaster, like by like a very large margin. Yes. I was talking with a friend about that the other day. Horrifying.
00:14:22
Speaker
It's going to be like the second hottest summer on record or something insane. And it's going to be like, we're going to use like 66% more energy this summer than any other summer because we're going to try to all stay cool. It's like great. It's like, what? No. I'm just wondering how you're feeling about summer. And if you have some summer plans, what are you going to do? What are you going to watch? What are you going to be? Who are you going to be this summer? I have no plans. Like I have no plans. and I usually am a summer plan person. I have a trip. ah Usually have at least a trip of some kind usually I go up north or something like we'll go to a cottage or whatever But we have nothing like I have nothing in my books and also as a Sagittarius. I feel very quite sick about it I don't like that. I need to have a trip. I need an exit plan at all times I can't be here and But what we have what I have been doing and also like the beaches by us are like really fucking disgusting like I just can't anymore like
00:15:20
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yeah When you mean disgusting. Gaslighting yourself. People like trash. So there's like the closest beach to me. So I live, where I live, you know, Toronto, like Southern Ontario has a beautiful lake all around it. You cannot swim in that water. I don't know. It is, it's like, you will get, it's like, not safe, not safe, not safe, which I always think is really funny, but like one of the, there's a beach fairly close to me, they're like, oh, the water's fine, just don't put your head under. But I'm like, what about vaginas? What about buttholes? Like, that's fine? Is that fine? Literally, what about your fucking skin? Yeah, exactly. Like, what about your like, literal actual skin, the organ on your body? I just don't like,
00:16:04
Speaker
drink it a ton or anything like that. I'm like, what the fuck? So anyway, like all the water is not okay. We're all acting like summer is a fine thing to do. We're just all like summer's fine. It's fucked. So it's like ridiculous. Like I'm surrounded by all this beautiful waterfront. You can't go into any of it cause it's polluted to hell. So there's like a beach that's like relatively close by. Like I can jump in my car for like maybe 10, 15 minutes or something. That'd be at a different beach, but it's so, It's what I imagine going to the Jersey Shore is like, that one. Like people pull their boats in really close. It's really loud. Like the waters, it's like not a pleasant beach experience. Then you can get in your car. There are some beautiful beaches on the Jersey Shore, but I hear you.
00:16:48
Speaker
Yeah, I mean Jersey Shore from like the MTV. I get it. Yeah, like music. Yes. Muscles, ten anxious people. What you're really trying to say is you don't love the people, the people of summer. The people of summer that like like summer. Is the people of summer I do not love? Oh my god, that's 100%. I do not love the people of summer. Yes. The people of summer are loud. Yes. Far too loud. They're way too loud. They like fireworks. The fashion is the fashion is a whore. It's a sensory nightmare. It's hot,
Societal Pressures and Summer
00:17:20
Speaker
it's loud, and it's bright. No. Stop it. Stop it. Stop it. There's always like, you know, it's like when you go to the beach and the person's playing like a fucking radio, like a fucking, like a playing music. it. Like people pull their boats in, like people pull their boats in into the water so close. so
00:17:36
Speaker
and like their loud music's on. So it's like gross. And then if you do, if you go to like some of the provincial parks, these are all like relatively close. If you go north, if you drive like an hour or two north of Toronto, it's fucking gorgeous. It's nice. You have to get on on my way to do that though. yeah That's not my business. No. You have to get into a car. Yeah. Yeah. You have to get into a car. All this stuff. All this stuff. It's ridiculous. But what I have really liked And this is not an ad at all. And maybe I won't even say the name of the company because I hate these fucking tech companies. There's like an Airbnb for pools, basically. And so we've been doing that and that has been really nice. Cause I do love a pool. I love quiet, I love peace. I love a little- I love some chlorine. Yeah. I love chemicals. This one does piss shit or blood there. It's sanitized.
00:18:26
Speaker
yeah yeah I love a pool. So yeah, we've been doing that and that's really nice. That is lovely. Yeah, I think I've been thinking about like city pool vibes in Philly, but also like maybe finding a pool to belong to like for the summer. Yes, I want to do that. I was looking at our yacht club membership for a minute. Also, okay, I want to back up again. As a non-drinker, What am I supposed to do with this? You have, like, your club moments. Oh, that's another thing. When we talk about beach people, we're going to talk about the summer people. The summer people are drunk, drinking, loud, and naked. And I don't like this. Yeah. And they could just go with it. I'm happy to be naked. I would literally love to be naked, but. I would love to be naked. I don't want to see other people naked. Get out of here. Go away. Get out of here. That's how I feel about that. Wait.
00:19:14
Speaker
Wait, wait, that's really funny. Wait. Why don't you want to see people naked? Oh, i love on the beach? I love seeing everyone naked. Yeah, sure. Hot, flopping, sweating? No. No. No. Why? No. It's just, it's not my business.
00:19:36
Speaker
I don't care. You go do you in your private pool, but like I don't want to see you naked and go away. Here's the thing. But you're not even, it's seeing people naked. That's the beauty of like, there's a lot of nude beaches in Toronto. the One of the nicest beaches in Toronto is a nude beach too. But, okay, see, this is what I'm saying. I don't love anything here. like but You wanna go to a nude beach? I'd love to see you naked. Fine, on a nude beach. That is the environment. That is the that is the the vision. that is the like That's the rule of that space. There's this situation where it's like, we're going halfway. We're either like, you know what I mean? No. Because you know what I love too about a nudist? It's never, no it's not the hots that are getting nude. Oh, no, no.
00:20:27
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Like, you know, some, some 50 something, 60 something, you know, Barb and, and John who've been together for 30 plus years. Hot. Love. Yeah. Yeah. I love that. I love that. I would love Barb and John to go in, like, yeah, like go into this space. Like, right? Like that is the space. This like, if, no, anywhere else I'm like, no. i don't I don't need to see this. and How do we feel about bathing suits? I love bathing suits. You like bathing suits. Okay, you know what it actually is? It's not about naked bodies. That's not what this is about. That's not what this is about. This is about men. This is about men on beaches.
00:21:15
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being obnoxious and being like like the others you know what I'm saying I don't what I really don't need is like yeah that's what it is it's like drunk men with their shirts off playing water games on a beach with a with a radio playing top 40. No one likes men. No one likes men. That I'm like, yeah. No, I don't like that at all. And it's like like the macho like but like the yeah thing that happens on a beach. It's like, I don't like that. And I mean, I'm sure that happens everywhere else. But I literally, when I say, besides my husband, that I have one male straight friend in my life. What?
00:21:59
Speaker
I don't have any. You have none. You have zero. You have zero. You don't have any. It's just like I'm not around that. Talking to a man. No. I'm just not. Talking to a man. I've designed my life so wonderfully that I don't ever talk to men. So I think that's it. I'm just not around it. And then I go to the beach and I want to have a lovely time. And it's this aggression. And I'm like, ugh. So I think really what summer is is straight behavior.
00:22:29
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And we don't want any of it. We don't want any of it. It's supposed to be this sexy time, but like sexy time is only like straight time if there's like water involved. And I'm like, I don't like that. like no like Why is the summer just like bring out like the weirdest straight behavior? And then yes, to your point. Pride. Pride is now. pride Pride is happening now. um You know, I guess you know what it maybe is is like I was literally just having this conversation with a friend the other day because I was like summer It's so funny to me that like so I've been watching like perfect match Have you seen any of that show? Do you even know what that is? If I say those words? I can figure it out because i don't know what so tur It's like it's like
00:23:16
Speaker
It's a reality TV show about nightmare fuel, huh? Where they're like hot in like a tropical location, right? And I think it's so funny that like all of these like, so all straight people sexy. Yeah. So fucking course it's all straight people. It's hell. Hell. And you know what? Actually the conceit is so ridiculous. You have to, to stay in the game. You have to be coupled up with somebody. So you're like constantly matching with new people all of the time. Yeah. So it's like, and the conceit is straightness. And it is really funny because it was a bi woman on the season. and She's just like, I can't, I fucking can't. Like I gotta go.
00:23:54
Speaker
I gotta get the fuck out of here. I gotta get the fuck out of here. But it's so funny to me that like the idea of like sexiness like being hot is always like in hot weather because like the least sexy like I feel the least sexy and like this hot hot hot weather like yes I love like to me like the most romantic season is fall. You know? Of course. Coziness. But I'm hot and sweaty. I'm like, do not fucking touch me. Get the fuck away from me. Don't touch me. Don't touch me. Don't anyone touch me. Don't anyone look at me. Don't anyone. It's disgusting out here. I don't understand that. I will never. Yeah, I will never. I will never, never, never. I also think that summer is like, it's a vulnerable time.
Creative Processes and Personal Rhythms
00:24:43
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It really is. It's a vulnerable time. You got parts of you out here that haven't seen the lights since last summer. Parts of you are out here. Ten months ago was last time. Yes! Parts of you are out here and like the world is telling you like joy. Like feel joy. with your mic, like most vulnerability, which is the most vulnerable emotion to feel, like feel joy in these like very high stakes I feel. With your bikini wax. That's really funny. That's really funny. Exactly. Okay, I have like a little creative confession to make.
00:25:18
Speaker
I thought as for being a creative business person, I could not have a system because I am a, you know, hater. I could not have organization. So I am really kind of famous in my friend group and my life and my partnership with Jacqueline for being the person that buys all of the ingredients for the cake. puts them out on the counter. Maybe I'll like make up some cake cake batter too. I might even get that far. And then I fully get distracted by something else that's pretty and shiny, like a cute new idea. And forget about it. And I felt for a really long time that because I am, you know, squiggly brain, because I'm neurodivergent, because I'm autistic,
00:26:00
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um because you know executive dysfunction and like also you know i'm a Sagittarius and like i don't drink enough water whatever whatever the thing is whatever the thing that we want to tell o ourselves it's like why we can't do something i thought that systems were not for me i thought as for being a creative business person i could not have a system because i am a you know hater i could not have organization And what I've really learned about my creative process is that actually that's like not a bad thing, but like pulling all of the ingredients out on the counter isn't a bad thing. It means I'm impulsive. It means I'm spontaneous. It means I get really excited about something. It means that I'm passionate. It means that I'm i'm really good at starting. I'm really good at starting. It doesn't mean that I'm like lazy, crazy, stupid, dumb, or like my ideas are bad or like I'm not enough. Whatever the thing is. It just means that I need a little bit more support.
00:26:53
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to keep going. I need a little bit more support to like pay attention to what I'm doing. When we get clear about our creative process, that what we're actually understanding is a system. The thing that makes me feel like I'm not good enough isn't me, it's other people. It's you know, capitalism, its systems. I've been taught my entire life a bunch of shoulds. I've been told by, you know, Instagram ads, that there is a specific way to do something right. And because I'm not doing that, that's why, you know, my cakes are never baked. Why I'm like, you know, an incomplete finisher, so to speak. But when I give myself the space and freedom and time to follow an idea the way that I want to, all of the sudden I can publish sub stacks. All of the sudden I can submit essays. All of the sudden I can run a business. All of the sudden I can write a sales page. All of the sudden I can record the pod. All of the sudden I can make a real, right? Like I can make things that actually follow my idea. When we get clear and when we start to trust our creative practice and become a well-resourced artist,
00:27:57
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That is where, you know, we can shine, we can thrive, we can live. As two neurodivergent business owners, we knew that the status quo didn't work for us. So we created something that did, and we want to share that with you as well. So you come join us for class outside three months, you know, to bring your like little spark of idea, your, you know, all of your cake ingredients pulled out on the counter, or maybe you need some help going and figure out what ingredients to go and get into like a real life thing, a real fully realized baked cake. And then we have our September retreat dates that are open now as well. I would love for you to join us. We're bringing 10 magical, wonderful, weird,
00:28:40
Speaker
creatives with us haters, if you will, ah for three nights, four days in the Catskills. It's going to be a wonderful time. I'm really excited to do nothing with you and to make and to create and have an understanding of our own creative processes and, you know, make the world a rock and roll place. If you want to learn more, there's more information down below, or, you know, you slide into our DMs on Instagram, wherever the heck you want to connect, because we're really excited for you to join us. Okay. It is a weird time. I will say so I Went to a pool party the other night. Okay. Oh And I had to go get organized for that. I had to go right prepare my body in various ways Yeah, I saw your story You were like, I was really fucked and now I'm not I just yeah Well, so I you know, I go I go for okay. Here's the other thing too. I've been getting
00:29:35
Speaker
Where do I even start with this? Where did I start? Summer, buddies. I had to go and get prepared for my my crotch to be in public. And you know me, and I like a tiny, tiny little bikini. I like looking like a little string hand moment. You love it, you love it, yeah. And I don't really know why, because they're not made for me. they' I'm not the one that these bikinis were made for. I'm not sure why they come
Summer Grooming and Personal Choices
00:30:00
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in an XL, but I'm wearing them. So I'm out here with just very minimal clothing on. ah Um, so I go and get, I go and get a wax the other day. And one, these people that are waxers, they're made of some other different material. ah They are put them in charge of the military. If we're going to have quite literally have the women waxing buttholes for over a decade.
00:30:29
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be in charge yeah because they have a system. They know exactly what they're doing. They're fast. They're in and out. A woman said to me the other day, I was getting my wax. And like you know I've been getting wax a couple times a year for, like I don't know, maybe like the last 10 plus years wow or something like that. yeah yeah how are you know yeah how old I don't even know how old I am. How old am I? You're 20 now. I've had many waxes in my life. Can you imagine if I got that wrong? If I was like, you're 27. I don't know. I would have been like, OK. Oh, yeah. You're right. You're not the friend for that. I don't feel like a person. I don't feel like a person. That's how this heat makes me feel. And so I'm getting a wax. And if you've, I went in ready to chat with this woman.
00:31:25
Speaker
And she was not having any of my chat because this was her stand-up routine. This is a one-woman show that I walked in on. And it she was making me laugh so much. And I don't even think it was on purpose. She won when she started. She was like, I'm going in. And I like lost my, yeah, like that crazy, crazy thing to say. Crazy. Sorry, I said that right as you took a sip. Are you okay? Swallow, it's okay.
00:31:56
Speaker
You have to have this person on the podcast is my first thought. She was like a military level. She was like, I'm good. She whipped the towel. It's a ridiculous scene. It's a ridiculous scene, right? You're pantless. You're like poo bear situation, right? Because you got your top on, legs are out. And then you've got this like little towel that's there for for what Who the fuck knows why? yeah i know Some sort of performance of something. Of safety. yeah or she's at ye This little towel off and she goes, and she's like, she's like shuffling my legs around. I usually you're getting instructions. She's not instructing me. She's like putting legs where they need to be.
00:32:36
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this The intern is on for some sort of pretense of like entertainment of some kind. It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous, the scene. And then she says to me, she's she's like, she grabs some wax in a spatula, pulls my legs apart and she goes, I'm going in, swipes wet wax up the left side of my crotch. And then it's just sitting there telling me her life story over the next 10 minutes while like she's ripping and tearing. And I was like, God bless. One of the best waxes I've ever had too. She was very good. Yeah. But then as I'm leaving, she goes, do you want me to do anything else? And I was like, oh, like, no, it looks great. Like, thank you. And she goes, well, you don't have like, your legs and armpits done. And I was like, correct. So I would like to like, I would like to update you on my body hair situation as it stands right now. huh Because you know, me and my, my weirdness. I sit before you.
00:33:39
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bear Are you hairless? Oh, yeah, I always go hairless. No. Top down? Oh, no, not top down. Oh. Not top down. OK. The situation I am sporting right now is like a wearable chaps kind of moment. OK. Full hairy leg. Full hairy leg. Full hairy armpit. huh No pubes. Oh, that's what you do, though. But it's so fucking weird. Well, yeah, but like that's not new for you. It's so fucking weird. It's so fucking weird. And it never stops being weird to me. Yeah. So that's summer. Just like this wearable chaps. Summer is thighs rubbing together.
00:34:29
Speaker
sweat in your eyes, skin burnt, over screaming, and then like drunk straight guys. Hairless. Hairless for some reason. Hairless. And then hairless. I don't know why. like I think it's this like weird, like
00:34:51
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I think it's interesting. Yeah, go ahead. Trying to be okay. I'm like, i don't I don't even know what. I don't even know what. I'm like, I'm fine. i
Culture of Summer and Social Pressures
00:35:00
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like I like being a hairy woman, like the feminist part of me. And then I'm like, just trying to convince myself I'm okay with that. Yeah. You know? I mean, I think, yeah, it's interesting because like, I love, okay, so there's different kinds of summer. This conversation is ridiculous. There are different kinds of summer. There's like beach summer. There's like beach pool, you know? Yeah, and there's also different types of beach pool. Yeah, like I am all for like an East Coast rocky beach grandma cottage core
00:35:41
Speaker
I love like- Coastal Grandmother. Yeah, Coastal Grandma moment, right? Love it. I also love a summer cabin camp vibe, you know? yeah I love like a running through the forest vibe, you know? Yeah. I even love a tropical beach. But you know, I don't love i means like anything else outside of it. City summer is like really quite gross. City summer is disgusting. The smells. Philadelphia is gross right now. So we're going to have one of those summers this summer. We're going to have a forest.
00:36:27
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Cabin moment summer. Oh, yes, we are It's kind of a mix. It's kind of like a coastal gram. It's like a cottage Forest summer camp. Yeah, we're like putting these things together and I'm excited for it And it's also not gonna be too hot. It's going to know it's gonna be perfect It's literally it's gonna be it's gonna be perfect. It's gonna be perfect. I'm really excited for that. That's something we have planned Phoebe and I are taking Oh 10 artists, creatives, to the woods to have a scream, to have a dip in the water, to do nothing, which is going to be so fun. Yeah, i think that'll be so I think that'll be so nice. It's like a nice way to round out summer too. I don't know. I just feel like...
00:37:12
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I don't know, some of it was such like dread to me as a child. Like I like i got sent to an all girls camp for a couple of years when I was a kid, which is just like, you'd think would be great, but it isn't great. isn great basically I have a friend who every time I talk, he's like, anytime anyone talks about summer camp, the stories about how someone's getting fingered. And I was like, I have a really disappointing story for you. All girls campus truly you'd think you'd think all girls campus where that's happening, but absolutely not.
00:37:44
Speaker
No, just mind games. Just, like, violent. Just mind games. mind games. Just my names just horrible abuse. I don't even know what. I don't even know like psychopath tendencies. Everyone being psycho to each other. That's actually what it is. Yeah, totally. Well, we're going to have, you know, the summer camp vibe that we didn't have when we were Yeah, that's a nice way to think of it. Yeah, I'm so excited for class outside, like retreat stuff. I really am excited and I think like, yeah, I don't know. Maybe it's like a reclamation of like summers that we didn't get to have and like the weirdness of it all. I don't know. I just feel like, I think you're totally right. Summer is about like everybody else's weird bullshit on display and we're all just trying to like contend with having a human body. I don't, I think maybe I kept saying like the last week,
00:38:35
Speaker
that I don't feel real. Like I don't feel like a person right now. yeah I feel like not here. And I think it's like you're having to contend with your like flesh vessel so much right now. And it's like needs and like, yeah, food's squicking me out. But if you don't eat, then you feel awful. Like it's just, it's a whole thing. Yeah. Shout out. Shout out. to all of the pregnant women during summer yo one of my friends is pregnant right now due mid august obviously that's why leos are come out insane because you'd have like you'd have to be insane the environment is not it's not okay it's not okay out here no there's a lot of fun summer tv coming out which i'm excited for what are you watching right now well now that like
00:39:26
Speaker
Bridgerton has released me from its... Iron Claw. I'm going to watch Dairy Girls because I really haven't seen it. And I'm going to watch The Bear. The next season of The Bear is coming out, which you haven't seen, right? With IO. Did you see that? Did you see the why you see the the chaos, the rumor? What? That she's leaving? No, that she's like dating Jeremy.
00:40:00
Speaker
I knew it. That's so upsetting. I know. That's so upsetting.
00:40:10
Speaker
I've seen all these articles that are literally like, why can't anyone just be friends anymore? Well, what the fuck does that man have going on, huh? What the fuck does that man have going on? Have you seen this, like, strangest man? Have you seen this trend thing about like men being rodents? Like the rodent boyfriend thing? Have you seen this? It's so funny what you when you get things. It's so funny. It's so funny. yeah Yes. Yes, yes, yes. Hot rodent boyfriends. And everyone has to have an opinion about it. They're like, I think it's so rude to call men rodents. I'm like, shut up. Shut up. Shut up.
00:40:51
Speaker
What is this? but You know what I really love? There's this really great Chris Fleming bit where he's like the jury's out on what makes a man hot and like right as they're start to like they're finished deliberations like Barry Keogan comes out like and they're like okay I i you know obviously as well didn't know who Sabrina is that her name? Carpenter. Carpenter is. And then I realized that they're together. Yeah. garian Yeah, those like.
00:41:23
Speaker
I mean, these fucking men leaving their wives and children for, and you know, God bless Sabrina Carpenter, you know, you go girl. Also, whatever to this fucking man man. But it's the same thing with Jeremy What's-his-face. I was watching a little bit of the video
Summer Entertainment Plans
00:41:40
Speaker
that berries and Sabrina's. Please, please, please. yes yeah Is that it? Yeah. And I was like, these are very small people. Yeah, they're tiny, tiny little people I know.
00:41:54
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This is like when I used to play with my Polly Pockets come to life
00:42:07
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you like
00:42:10
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that's so funny I mean I do think a lot of summer is like Simon I say this all the time like skinny people bullshit like getting picked up like on perfect match I was like picking up the women and I was like No man could ever. Picking up? No man could ever lift this. Oh, physically picking up. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. Does that happen in the video? No, I'm getting lifted anywhere. Like, literally, you could, because she's like a tiny woman, you know? Like, if you're like a tiny woman, you get, like, flung around. If you watch that video, like, Barry's sitting on the ca- his feet don't even touch the ground.
00:42:44
Speaker
You know they find each other to like little people. I don't relate I am like so I I like talk I mean, I don't you're tall too. You're like a tall gal Yeah, yeah. Yeah, my sister is like I think she might be like five feet or something like that and I just like whenever I'm talking to her I'm like We're not made of the same thing. yeah and i love very So by me so funny Yeah, I'm gonna be watching the bear. IO's amazing. I'm so excited to see Inside Out 2. Did you watch the first Inside Out? Yeah, like years ago when it came out. I'm excited to see Inside Out 2 because I love IO and because we're like in the teenage years now.
00:43:28
Speaker
I'm so fucking upset by that just don't women No No No, okay, and I think she knows like and I just I think she's the funny she's so fucking funny She's not so funny. She's so funny. She's so funny And I can't, I can't, like, okay, this is all based on, do you know why this whole, we're just gossiping, we're just gossiping. That's what this podcast is. Have you heard about this? No. No, I have not at all. Because I don't get- They went to a Cubs game. Oh. They went to a Cubs game. They went to a Cubs game. The Bears cast. The Bears. The Bears cast. And he's like in the camera, like he's like rubbing her back.
00:44:15
Speaker
sitting next to her. I hate this. And so everyone's like... I fucking hate this. I hate this. Everyone's like they're dating. Everyone's like they're dating. I feel physically sick. It's so upsetting. I don't know. Why are you letting that man touch you? That's what I mean. It's just like what to... women everywhere why that's constantly i know i i feel like i sound like a broken record record i know i feel like i sound boring but i just like i go i can't with these fucking men anymore i've had enough
00:44:48
Speaker
truly I mean like the one thing I do really like about perfect matches all these women are coming in they're like I'm like hot and rich like if I'm gonna date somebody and like the conceit of this game is so fucking ridiculous it's like obviously everyone on reality TV is there to get famous but like you can't even like have that kind of glossiness of I'm here to find somebody with the show like it's so ridiculous but they're like yeah I'm like high and rich and I don't need a man so like if I'm going to date somebody he has to be like really good yeah sweet Yeah, that's what all freakin partnership should be. It's like, what's the point of you? I can pay my own damn bills. Yeah, exactly. Get especially for women. Yes, like get out of here. What are we doing? Get out of here. What are we doing? What are we doing? Okay, so yeah, that's what I'm planning to watch this summer.
00:45:40
Speaker
I really hope. I don't have any plans. I've just been loving the summer bops and tunes. Loving the new Charli XCX album. So fucking good. I have like, it's so hot. I haven't been working out as much as I like like to, but that album dropped. Like the rest of Brett dropped and I've been like, let's go to the club. And by club, I mean like the gym at 7 a.m. like I'm so excited. Because you're 29 about to be. Yes, I'm old. I was literally thinking the other day, I was like getting up to go to Pilates and like drinking a smoothie and like I was like, if 20, one year old, me, met me now, she would vomit. She would vomit. She'd be so unimpressed. She'd be so unimpressed. She would be, yeah. you know Yeah, I don't know. New chap, well, not even new. Well, hopefully new.
00:46:34
Speaker
or Chapel Roan, all that. I'm just here for the bops. I don't really care. I don't really feel like... I'm here for the theater. I'm going to see a lot of theater this summer, which I'm excited about. What are you guys going to see? I'm going to see Appropriate, which I'm super psyched to see. Sarah Paulson just won the Tony. I'm going to see Merrily We Roll Along, I heard that there might be a pro shot coming out of that. There's been like, go sit. Go sit? What I'm really here for is just Daniel Radcliffe, like being really cute out in the world. He's such a nice video. You want to talk about like a little cute little boy? Daniel Radcliffe. Yeah. I'm seeing earlier along. What else am I seeing? What else am I seeing? OK. I really want to see the Welkin at Atlantic Theatre Company, too. Got to go see that.
00:47:31
Speaker
Sandra O's in it. Wow. It's like... Okay, so really what's happening here is like we feel like there should be a certain kind of summer. Yeah, the pressure. For women specifically. Like you need to have an Instagram summer. Like summer has to look a certain way, has to feel a certain way, has to be a certain way. Your body has to be whatever the thing is, you know? Mm-hmm. And I think That is the trickiest. like like This is the thing we're always trying to do, right? Is like negotiate or say, like it's fine if I don't want that version of something. I think that's ultimately like what we're saying, is like how do you how do you always kind of stay true to yourself when you're bombarded all the time with like what you should be experiencing and
Balancing Expectations and Personal Peace
00:48:20
Speaker
feeling and like wanting you know because of capitalism. Trying to get you to pay for shit.
00:48:28
Speaker
Summer, you spend money. You spend money in the summer. Which is like so wild to me because I've been spending money too. Like, you know me, I don't spend money. i I'm like up. I'm like walking around town. I feel like I have money to spend too. That's the worst part. I've rubbed off on you. I've rubbed you. I such a like services habit. like I like my nails done. yeah I like getting my nails done. I like getting my waxes. I need a haircut. like i like
00:49:02
Speaker
You know, yeah being taken care of that's your money spending. It's not stuff. It's not like stuff I like going to a place where someone's gonna like Do something to me and I'm like like just body workers. Yes, like ah cold plunge. Yes like Let me just be okay in this flush prison for like five seconds and I'm like sign me up. Yeah exactly exactly, but I feel like it's like there's so many like summer should be I feel like summer should be again like all these shoulds like should be of time when people can go outside and experience you know not scary like unhealthy damaging heat right and also not like
00:49:48
Speaker
have this barrier all of the time to like entry or access of like literally experiencing like nature you know or like yeah you know like well yeah like it's like there's so much pressure to like enjoy yourself in like a very particular way and like i feel the same way okay like is everyone you know on your instagram like also on vacation all of the time and i'm like what is it What like what what do you do? What do you do? I actually got into like an argument with a friend the other day I was like traveling is not a hobby like that's not you're not an interesting person Because you let everyone likes to go on fucking vacation like That's not an activity that doesn't make you an interesting person. I'm talking about like dating, you know like dating app Oh, yeah, I love to travel. I'm like
00:50:37
Speaker
Yeah. Like, so does everyone. Like, do you also love to have millions of dollars? Do you also love to have, like, a ton of money? Okay, cool. Like, traveling is not a fucking, like, consuming things does not make you interesting. And, okay, there it is. It is dark. You're right. It's dark. like that's what i feel about summer it's like oh we gotta go here and do this thing we gotta to look this way and you have to and i fucking catch myself in that too it's like the same thing as like buying an outfit to go on vacation like it's it's like sing it's like consumption but like yeah in this idea that like this i don't know there's i think it's interesting too because there's definitely like a seasonal depression thing happening i like have found in my community where people are
00:51:27
Speaker
We're depressed in the winter, and we're depressed in the summer. yeah You know what I mean? It's like no one wants to leave their house now because of climate change, obviously. But like nobody, like there's like this, I don't know, like the nostalgia of summer. like I just, I would love to be someone who wants to experience, like who like wants to create this like the summer vibe I wanna see in the world. Do you know what I mean, that thing? But I don't. I'm like, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Okay, so like what's our like... I feel like we should like write a manifesto right now. Yeah, how are we gonna be people in the song? Like cuz it is a lot of pressure to like go everywhere do everything like look a certain way feel a certain way and like I think part of it is like I think what gives people seasonal depression this time is like oh I feel maybe stressed about the environment I feel just not happy like I don't want to go to a pool party right now like whatever the thing is
00:52:19
Speaker
and I think it's like the again like that idea of like gaslighting yourself is like not cute and fun and it doesn't feel fun and so I think it's like how do we have summer I think we need to like declare this is like what happens okay let's turn to the plants what are the plants doing right now yes you know what they're doing yeah ripening mm-hmm essentially getting ready to die Yes.
00:52:49
Speaker
They're like, let me pump out this fruit. They've kind of already done that. They're just like vibing for like their one green, like all of my tomatoes on on my plant are like green as hell. Everything is green. And they're gonna be that way until like the last week of August. Yeah, we have blood blossom. We have blossom. Yeah. And yeah, we're all, we're just green and we're so we're surviving. Yes. Yes. Yes. I think it's like, I don't want to just call it slowness because I, you
Reflective Approach to Summer
00:53:20
Speaker
know, like, what is it? It is slowness. You know what it is? It's marinating. It's like sitting in the river.
00:53:29
Speaker
It's slowness. It's the same vibe of winter, you know what I mean? Like, actually, I think that's what I'm saying is like, we want to act like summer is not winter, but summer is winter. And like, and we all need to like, get over it. You know, like laying down and like wanting to be inside and keeping everything yeah chill is like is winter and like it's also summer. Like summer is actually not go, go, go. It's fucking 99 degrees outside. Like summer is... I'm talking about how hot it is. Summer is actually like, yeah, is like stillness, marination, you know.
00:54:07
Speaker
I just don't want, here's what I don't want. Is that a good place to start? I don't know. Kind of manifestation or manifesto. Oh, I think saying what you don't like is like sometimes 5,000 times more helpful than saying what you do like, right? Like that's a way faster decision. I don't want to run to a beach. Right? Like, I don't want to, rot like, I don't want to hustle. We gotta go have a good time. To the event. We gotta go relax. Yes, exactly. I catch myself doing that. Like, even, like, even just going to a yoga class on the bus. Like, ooh, the bus is late. I gotta go relax. No, I don't want to, like, hustle to the picnic. I don't want to, like, run to the beach to then just, like, flatten myself. Like, I want, like, calm, peace, vibes.
00:54:58
Speaker
Mm-hmm. You know, yeah surrender. Yeah, I think it's like taking the pressure off of ourselves so that we can actually have the experiences that we want to have. you know Because it is nice to go slow. It is nice to it is nice to lay on a beach. But it's like not fun to like gaslight yourself. I guess that's just like always what I'm saying. Yeah, it's like not fun to like recognize like who you are. And like it's what is fun is to like go at our own pace. like What is relaxing is, like what do I actually need right now? you know like Feeling the feeling. Yeah.
00:55:33
Speaker
feeling the feeling. Yeah. I think we're always just trying to like, I'm always trying to like be like, what is the most like free version of myself here? Yeah. Cause that's the point, you know? Like what's the point of running to a beach and then feeling gross and then laying down and then like hating your body? yeah Do you know what I'm saying? Or whatever the thing is. yeah it's like yeah it's like I think that's my question this summer. is like What is the most free version of myself right now? How can you give that to yourself? who
00:56:05
Speaker
This is a podcast. This is really like, I mean, obviously this is a podcast for the gays and the girls. This is a podcast. Oh yeah, okay. If you're a straight man listening to this, I don't know what the hell you're doing here. How'd you end up here? I don't know. I don't understand. But really, yeah, that's what it is. It's like, it's for the... Yeah, the people who like can't be free in these spaces, you know what I'm saying? Like that's what summer really brings out. It's like community. It's like these like summer spaces feel like there's like rules and social things and like whatever the thing is. It's like what is your most free version of yourself this summer? Yeah. Oh, I love that.
00:56:46
Speaker
I think that's what we're creating with class outside too, right? Like that's what we really wanted and I think My favorite part about being an artist. I know we talked about like this last episode is like creating the things that we want in the world and like This is like a whole other tangent I could totally go on, but like, you know, you and I are self-employed and we're artists because we needed the ah accommodation of like entrepreneurial schedule that we can be in control of. yeah And like, like we can't show up places on time. And like, you know, we ended up in partnership together because we need help. Like we need help. And I think that's like, one second, where was my tie?
00:57:30
Speaker
I think like I get the most excited about the things that I'm creating because I need them first because like they're an accommodation I need for the world and like I need slowness and but I also need commitment to myself like I need it's like that wrestling of like do I get out of bed and keep the needle move like move the needle forward or do I sit here and like there's always a back and forth yeah um and it's always a conversation and I think like telling ourselves that like it isn't a conversation it does more harm Oh yeah, like oh all you need is like a cute little summer outfit. Actually, yeah like that's all you need. All you need is like an Instagram filter. It's like, no, I like getting high. yeah No, no, no. All you need is like a summer salad recipe or whatever. You know what I mean? Like, no. Yeah.
00:58:23
Speaker
Mm-hmm. No, all I need is to like Not be a person I kept on shouting that the other day when it was like that big heat wave and wave I was like, I don't feel real like yeah i I had I thought I was having some sort of like Psychotic break. I was like I cannot explain it. I don't feel like a person. Yeah, I haven't felt like like it's crazy Yeah and so it's like but like let's be honest with ourselves yeah why are we trying to do anything in august go worship a tree why are we trying to do anything in august can someone explain this to me why is it why is it like a society all of your fucks off do we attempt to do anything in august yeah like i don't understand just like december right like this is what i'm saying winter and summer are the same thing actually yeah you know yeah
00:59:11
Speaker
times for rest, rest and death. yeah so Exactly. We fucked. That's what I just think of when I end the spring. I'm just like, everyone's fucking. Like, you know, like the trees, the bees, birds, right? And then we're like, I gotta chill. Anyway. Go have your most free summer. Your most free summer. I love that. I love that. We are going to go have our most free summer. We're going to go on break now. Yeah, we are. We're going to go fuck off into the woods for a bit. i like And I know. I'm like so excited for what. I hate this. I hate when people say this. I'm so excited for what we're doing in September. like I just. Ugh.
00:59:55
Speaker
It reminds me of a treat, babes. But not just that, everything else that we're doing, we're creating right now. And I think it's because I feel this excited. I feel this excited because I know that we have space to make it. Our plans this summer are to not look at our screens and play. And I know the stuff will come from that. And that's, oh, I'm like, so excited. Delicious. Yeah, as Phoebe says. Delicious, delicious. Okay, happy summer. happy Okay, happy summer. when we' be back Yes, we'll be back in September. We'll be back the beginning of September, this time we have a date. ah And I don't know, stay, like I think it's newsletter if you want to hear from us often. We send out fun newsletters that are like inspiring and you know many versions of the pod basically.
01:00:48
Speaker
Instagram maybe like you can follow us there, but like we mostly just fuck around and have fun Yeah, um which is the like I I was thinking the other day. I was like, do you remember like 2011 Instagram? I can't I loved it. I can't we need to give you those the filters like Sierra like I love that right I was so against it and now I'm like bring it back bring it back. Yeah, I no i was like i was thinking the other day about like posting like a really long like just like a single photo of me and then like a long as hell diary entry after that and i was like you know remember remember when the character limit got extended we sound so old okay bye okay
01:01:37
Speaker
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Speaker
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