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Who Is To Blame For Napoli Failing To Sell Victor Osimhen? (Extended Clip From Q & A Pod)
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Victor Osimhen Vs Aurelio De Laurentiis and Napoli? Who is to blame for the Nigeria international striker not leaving Serie A despite interest from Premier League outfit Chelsea as well as Saudi League.
The Italian Football Podcast patron Nikolaj sends in a question wondering what Nima Tavallaey and Carlo Garganese think of the situation which the duo discuss, debate, analyze and contextualize.
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Blame Game for Osimhen's Failed Transfer
00:00:03
Speaker
Welcome to the Italian football podcast. Right. um The final question comes in from Nicolai Lindebari, who says, Hi, guys, Napoli versus Parma. What a game. Many blaming ADL for the transfer of Osman not getting done. But what about his agent Roberto Calenda? Shouldn't he have done better to find a club? After all, it's about eight months ago that Osman expressed that he's not going to stay at Napoli. I think Roberto messed up big time with his stupid expressions and not doing his job. I'm not always a fan of ADL's decisions.
00:00:32
Speaker
But in this case, I actually think that the other is to blame. And what about Al-Hilal and Chelsea? How are they splashing money after players that that now aren't even playing? But when it comes to Oseman, who's one of the best strikers in Europe, they won't even pay him his salary. ADL went and got the most of the players content needed, even if Oseman wasn't sold. Yet he's acting very not ADL-like.
00:00:53
Speaker
a like Allegri when asked about the pobega. I don't know him. Who is he? Is that an English word? I forgot. It's been too many years. um Thanks for for the pogba. Thanks again for a great part. Kind regards, Nikolai. Right. um I think it's an an issue of all of the above. As for Chelsea not being able to pay his wages, it's very simple reason for that.
00:01:19
Speaker
They just can't because of the the the rules put in place, isn't it? Well, that's a complicated one with Chelsea. I mean, they're going to be. Listen, God, this is the this is let me try and explain this as briefly as I can
Chelsea's Financial Tactics in Player Transfers
00:01:35
Speaker
Chelsea. So Chelsea are going to be investigated for but breaking financial regulations, which They obviously have in reality and because in the last two years, they've spent almost 1.5 billion euros on new signings. They've given out ridiculous contracts. um But what they've done is they've done it lots and lots of accountancy tricks ah with a mortisation where they've given their new signings ridiculously long contracts.
00:02:08
Speaker
um Most of their players have got the the majority of their squad have got seven plus years contract, seven year plus contract. Nicholas Jackson just has just signed the renewal for a nine year contract until until 2033, which is the longest contract in in football that player, a current player in football has.
00:02:36
Speaker
nine years. It's insane. There's there's a couple of players that have got contracts, Renato Vega and another of their new signings. I can't remember the other guys named who've got contracts till 2032. And they've got those i just I did a story on this the other day, that's why I remember. And they have 15 players with contracts until 2031. I mean, it's insane. They're doing that to bypass the financial fair play regulations because it means that they can amortize the transfer fee over ridiculously long Contract every year divide the transfer fee by the length of years of contract So Nicholas Jackson's transfer fee of 40 million or wherever it was will be split over nine
Complications in Signing Osimhen
00:03:17
Speaker
years. So work through the math So that's like what like 4 million a year or 3 million in 4 million a year or something like that So they've basically done it. So that's one way they get away with it The other way they've been getting away with it is they've been selling off assets ah to sister companies and the Todd Bowley and and the ah consortium Blueco, if they are. and So they've been selling like the hotels.
00:03:43
Speaker
owned by Chelsea, like the Chelsea Official Hotel and the the women's team state a women's team teams ah ground and and all this stuff. They've been selling all the assets to basically sister companies to bypass the rules. and So it's is's it's ridiculous. um So anyway, to come to the answer to answer your question,
00:04:03
Speaker
um with Chelsea, why they didn't buy Osseman, because his contract is so high, like 10, I think it's 10 million euros a year net at Napoli. It's very difficult for a contract that high for them to basically do these kinds of accountancy tricks with, um because it's so high. um The salary it goes on every single year, and it would be too high to put that every single year. Does that does that make sense, Nima?
00:04:35
Speaker
Yeah, it does. It makes perfect sense. yeah um Because that's net. That's not gross. you know So it would be like, what, $18 million or something like that. $18 million a year or whatever. um So they only offered, ended up offering like half of that, basically. Because that's all that they could afford to put on the books to still get around the system, if you don't.
00:04:59
Speaker
and so So yeah, but I do agree on Roberto Calenda, who he's now sapped apparently. yeah no as i saw that He's now sapped his agent. um So Osman clearly blames him as for as for one of the reasons why Chelsea didn't, ah why yeah Napoli didn't sell Osman. It's a complete mess and I think there's there's a few parties to blame.
00:05:21
Speaker
um Including Austin himself including his agent and Obviously the Chelsea deal didn't happen because of the salary the the the move to Saudi Arabia to Al Ali Apparently reportedly didn't go through because they had a fear agreed for like 70 80 million something along those lines and and then late in the day um There was a request for an extra 5 million. I don't know whether that maybe commissions came part were partly to do with that maybe it was commissions that was asked for it's not we don't really know we don't know the inside and inside of that deal maybe it was the agent was asking for a commission or maybe the commission was a large chunk of that 80 million originally and then maybe napoli asked for more because there was commissions but we don't know i would i am assuming maybe that could be part of it either way if you're the agent of victor ossiman
00:06:13
Speaker
and you don't you can't get your client a transfer after it's been known for almost a year that your player is is goingnna that you've got to get your player a transfer. It's been clear since last year that that your player's got got to get got to move, the player wants to move, and you can't get him a transfer, and you've basically got a year to find him a transfer. I'm sorry. That's a huge failure from the agent.
00:06:38
Speaker
huge failure, regardless of all all these other circumstances that have come about, is absolutely right to sack him. Wouldn't you agree, Nimr? I have nothing more to add. I think he just covered everything. um i The only thing I want to add um um is I think Arellolo de la Rente certainly hasn't helped either.
Criticism of De Laurentiis' Contract Management
00:07:04
Speaker
And yeah what I mean by that is last summer, not this summer, but last summer, the way that he screwed up, led to Victor Ossiman being forced to pay Ossiman these wages that the club can't afford, which gave away all the leverage that he's so usually very brilliant at wielding in a negotiation. You know, and it's like,
00:07:32
Speaker
No words. like it's It's so sad because he he was so brilliant in everything he did before that. um But yeah, i say this is um I say this is just basically continuation of of last um of of last season's screw-up. And it's like, it's it's it's this is what happens when you mess up at that level. He has repercussions for many seasons. Like, for example, when Inter messed up with Lukaku trying to bring him back, it screwed them over. They ended up with Arnautovic. Same thing with Correa. Italian clubs don't have margins of error. And when they screw up, this this the the ramifications of it goes on for years. Also, ironically, I agree on De Laurentiis.
Challenges of High Salary Demands in Transfers
00:08:23
Speaker
He's absolutely very much to blame. And I, ironically, given him that massive contract for a year,
00:08:29
Speaker
for 10 million a year, also made it much, much more difficult to sell him because Osterman's demanding 10 million from everyone. And everybody now, for the reasons we've explained, you know, it's difficult for even Premier League clubs to pay that 10 million because of, you know, they've got to abide by the financial rules. And, you know, so that that given that contract was actually a ah really stupid move. Like, why did you need to give him that contract? You were going to sell him at the end of the year anyway.
00:08:58
Speaker
So why give him that contract? Do you know what I mean? And it's not like giving him that contract actually motivated him to play well for the rest of the season because he doesn't motivate it. We saw that when he wasn't injured. He was injured a lot, but he was completely demotivated. he He was barely trying at all last season. His head was completely gone. So what was the point of giving him that salary?
00:09:19
Speaker
And now he leaves Napoli completely pissed off with the club anyways. He's not left on good terms either. but So what what was the point? You haven't met you haven't allowed you haven't sold him to to to appease him anyway. You would have been better off keeping him in that salary and then said to him, you know what, if we sell you for over an X amount of money, we'll give you a part of the fee. They'd have been better off doing that.
00:09:44
Speaker
No, it's, yeah, that's fair enough. it's ah It's a crazy situation, it absolutely is, and it's been mishandled by pretty much everyone involved, to be honest.
Osimhen's Social Media Impact and Injury Concerns
00:09:53
Speaker
And let's not forget, Osmond did not handle this.
00:09:56
Speaker
very well either. His meltdowns on Instagram live have not exactly made him easier to sell. No. Again, you know, talking about the how to handle crises and how to handle criticism and how, you know, we're talking about earlier with Liao, like he didn't exactly. This is the reason the biggest clubs in the world didn't sign. him And his injuries and his injury.
00:10:15
Speaker
record as well. Yeah, but the injuries, you know, that's fine. That's, that's always, it's not his that's not necessarily his one what means fault. That's a reason but why we're talking about someone who has time and time again shown to be a loose cannon and people don't want to make big investments in, in, in, in people who are loose cannons. That's just how it is right or wrong. That's the reality of it. And and that's so sad. Yeah.
00:10:43
Speaker
But it's, yeah, but it's it's quite a mess. It's quite a mess. And it's going to be interesting to see how this whole thing, this whole thing ends up. um Because Galatasaray now have one of the most amazing attacks. It's like the Serie A All-Stars. They have Icardi, Mertens and Osseman. Like, dude, it's crazy.
00:11:05
Speaker
And we've got Chiro Imobule, Basik Tastu, Seria All Stars is attacking-wise.
Podcast Wrap-Up and Listener Interaction
00:11:14
Speaker
Right, ah that's all the time we had this week. Another almost two-hour episode of the Q and&A pod. This is because you guys send in such great questions and some really interesting talking points which which we want to really delve into.
00:11:28
Speaker
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00:11:55
Speaker
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