Become a Creator today!Start creating today - Share your story with the world!
Start for free
00:00:00
00:00:01
Lobbing Scorchers Live: Fans UNFILTERED Reaction to Seattle Sounders Loss to St. Louis City SC
337 Plays16 days ago
Fans react to Seattle Sounders 1-0 loss at St. Louis City SC.
SPONSORS
Haxan Ferments - Specializing in unique, small-batch fermented hot sauces and vinegars, Haxan Ferments is handcrafted in Georgetown and made with the best local ingredients from across the Pacific Northwest. Use Code LS for a FREE Hot Sauce w/ purchase!
Sounder at Heart - Our network host and biggest supporter, Sounder at Heart covers the Seattle Sounders, Seattle Reign, and MUCH MORE! Subscribe and Support to the BEST independent Seattle Soccer coverage.
Podium Edmonds - Located at 114 4th Ave N, just off Main Street in the heart of Downtown Edmonds, come shop and explore the best menswear in the Pacific Northwest. Tell them Lobbing Scorchers sent you!
Full Pull Wines - Founded in 2009, they the best boutique wines of the world to members, with special focus on our home, the Pacific Northwest.
MLS Season Pass - MLS Season Pass is back on Apple TV with access to every single MLS match—including Leagues Cup and the entire Audi MLS Cup Playoffs—with no blackouts! Subscribe today to support the show.
MLS Store - New year, new gear! The 2025 MLS jerseys are here, and MLSStore is the ultimate destination for every fan. Every purchase helps support our show!
Follow Lobbing Scorchers:
Lobbing Scorchers is a production of Just Once Media.
Lobbing Scorchers is a Seattle Sounders and MLS focused show brought to you by Sounder at Heart. Hosted by Major League Soccer's Ari Liljenwall and Producer Noah Riffe. Join us as we lob our scorching takes on the American soccer landscape, Seattle Sounders, Major League Soccer, USMNT and more.
Recommended
Transcript
Introduction to the Show
00:00:00
Speaker
This episode of Lobbing Scorchers was previously recorded and streamed live on youtube.com slash at Lobbing Scorchers. If you want to listen or catch these episodes live, see the video, and see all the rest of our content, go to youtube.com slash at Lobbing Scorchers or lobbingscorchers.com slash youtube.
00:00:21
Speaker
Well, sir, we got a scorcher today. Gonna be a real scorcher today. What the scorcher today? Well, it's gonna be scorcher.
Frustrations with Soccer Season
00:00:43
Speaker
Chat, chat, I don't even want to do this anymore. Chat, I don't even want to do this anymore. i don't even why are we here? Why are we here? Why are we doing this? Why are we playing soccer? what Can we just... Can we call it a wash?
00:00:55
Speaker
Can we call this season done? Am I overreacting? Am I underreacting? Well, I don't know. Let's break it down. St. Louis City versus Seattle Sounders, a match that just took place at City Park.
00:01:08
Speaker
Really not a good name. I'm sorry. Like, that's like... Really dumb name. And they have a dog food ad on their jersey. Like, this is just, like, what are we doing? We just lost to the dog food eaters? Anyway.
Match Critiques and Player Performances
00:01:23
Speaker
Yeah, 1-0 final from St. Louis. Jesus Ferreira starting at the 9. Paul Rothrock, Georgie Menungu out on the wings with their pace, with their speed. Couldn't get it done with the Christian Roldan and Obed Vargas double pivot.
00:01:42
Speaker
Jackson Reagan, not looking too good tonight, giving away a free kick that led to that goal. And to top it all off, to top it all off, Jesus Ferreira ultimate crash out was activated. He, he, he looked like me after a bad Sounders game on, on blue sky. He looked like he wanted to go in the locker room at halftime and post like a madman.
00:02:06
Speaker
What are we doing chat? What are we doing? ah Well, we will be joined by Ari here in just under 10 minutes.
00:02:17
Speaker
He is, you know, doing work or whatever. I just worked 10 hours. So I worked 10 hours and now I get to crash out on live with you guys. So let's jump right into it. Rise says, oh, Rise says, Ferreira is going to Europe. Trust.
00:02:34
Speaker
Yes, I trust it. i did text something to Ari. that I will, I'm not going to share exactly what I said, but I basically was like, man, no wonder MLS didn't let the Russia transfer go through.
00:02:48
Speaker
it was a good day. You had to be there. um But yeah. All right. If you want to call into the show, like always, a link is pinned in the chat.
00:02:59
Speaker
I also wanted to know before we get started here, if you hit us with a super chat, we're going to read it, obviously. Those are the rules. There's a lot of people who come in here and chat. Sometimes we miss them, sometimes we don't, all that kind of fun stuff.
00:03:13
Speaker
And last but definitely not least, if you want to become a member, a subscriber to the channel, you get some new emotes. We got some new emotes that were made. We have an Obed Vargas holding a bag of money.
00:03:26
Speaker
We have Albert Rusnak as a ghost because, you know, the ghost snack allegations, thought that was funny. New Who is a train and Pedro De La Vega blowing a kiss because apparently that's the only time he wants to play is when he's giving you a wink from the sidelines
00:03:45
Speaker
All right, after that um extended, activated crash out here from me, how are we doing chat? How do we feel about this game? Again, if you want to call in, hit that link right there in the pinned comment.
00:04:01
Speaker
We're going to start off here.
00:04:05
Speaker
Christian and Obed redeemed themselves from a poo game against Cruz Hustle, but we have no one to back up Jordan Morris up front. Jesus Ferreira is a lemon agenda on the rise.
00:04:15
Speaker
So I've seen a lot of takes like this. Jesus Ferreira starting at the nine. Do you want to hear my take on it, folks? Do you want to hear my take on it? I'll give you my take on it regardless because this is my show right now.
00:04:28
Speaker
I don't think that Jesus Ferreira is a lemon. I just don't think that he should be maybe playing the nine. And I think that it may have been a little bit more effective, even with Musavski at the nine and Jesus Ferreira out on the wing, or even putting something like a Paul Rothrock in the wing.
00:04:46
Speaker
ah not on the wing, I'm sorry, but but in as a nine. I don't know, man. He's just, he plays, he doesn't play that Schmetzer ball, play the cross in, finish that kind of thing, spring a player on the counter. He he gets stuck in. he He plays deeper. He likes to come to the ball. He likes to play the ball.
00:05:03
Speaker
He likes to do all of that kind of stuff. And I just don't think that this system necessarily works for him as a nine. And that's clearly why they were playing him on the wing. So I'm interested to see how he adapts to that, but it was not a good game from him.
00:05:18
Speaker
And to add on to that, I'm sorry, man. There were people telling me to chill out online today after he was slamming defenders to the ground for no reason, punching people on the field. And I'm like, we need to sub this guy off. This is ridiculous.
00:05:34
Speaker
why is he Why is he crashing out so hard It's just insane. And then, you know, as Jake here brings up, he's he's gone for 90 minutes or gone for 60 minutes. he He only played 60 minutes. So that's a really another just brutal, brutal, brutal moment. Like not being able to finish out that game. He comes back in at half, looks a little bit more settled. And still, it's just like the dude cannot play a full game.
00:06:02
Speaker
ah Anyway, that's my that's my frustration. Tim here is asking if Musavsky is the answer. Don't tell me the question. Listen, you know I am a a Moose disliker, but I think that he played much better in this game, in this setup, than Jesus Ferreira.
00:06:23
Speaker
But that is my take. ah Lucky to not get sent off. Exactly. Exactly. ah The ABR will welcome you back with open arms. Okay.
00:06:36
Speaker
The Brigade, listen, The Brigade, we we love you here. There's no hate. Obviously, as I just said, we added, if you become a YouTube member, there's the GoSnack emote. You can spam that in the chat.
00:06:48
Speaker
But I honestly don't think this was a bad Rusnak game. you you may You may think that this was, um but I really don't think it was. I thought he played fine.
00:07:01
Speaker
I thought the time that he played bad was when this game was kind of done and gone already. And I don't know to say. He probably could have used a sub, to be honest. I think he he understands his own fitness there.
00:07:16
Speaker
KKR should have been put on sooner. I actually like this agenda right here, Rob. um I think he looked really good, obviously. And um even more than that, i I think that bringing on a spark much earlier in the match would have been great.
00:07:32
Speaker
Brian wasn't there. I wonder how much Freddy Juarez wanted to mess with all of that kind of stuff. um So that's that's kind of, yeah, I don't know. I'm not sure. I am not sure.
Player Evaluations and Discussions
00:07:47
Speaker
Rosnack can't assist if he doesn't have anyone to play in behind. It's an interesting agenda. I think I'll take that under advisement, but I think he can still make some really good plays. If you're going to sit here and tell me Abba Rosnack is bad, but you watched him do that little half turn, <unk>t i don't really know. i don't really know.
00:08:05
Speaker
Yeah, let's let's get some positive ones here. Tyler says, Georgie Cook, top chef of the night. I like this agenda. I thought Georgie played really well. I think Georgie, game after game, continues to be a more well-rounded player and a player that honestly, like, I never would have thought would be this good. Like, he is he's balling, man. His touch is insane.
00:08:32
Speaker
I think I posted something like, Like ah he would be insane in indoor soccer. Like that is i like, imagine that guy one v one against you on a small pitch where he can bounce the ball off the wall. Like you would be cooked.
00:08:46
Speaker
You would be cooked, man. Derek Richards, thank you for becoming a member. You can use all the new emotes and all that kind of stuff. Wow. I'm a little bit out of breath. Let me, let me have this sip of water. Cause I kind of crashed out here in the beginning part.
00:09:04
Speaker
We're drinking sparkling today. We are drinking sparkling today. Jake with the heater here. I'm going to pull this up because it's a heater and I definitely don't agree with that. But Brian has sucked the life out of this club. Jesus and Pedro will be next.
00:09:23
Speaker
Hmm. I don't really think I agree with that. I don't think that Brian has sucked the life out of this club at all. And I don't think Pedro or Jesus are playing any different because they're playing under Brian Schmetzer.
00:09:35
Speaker
think Brian Schmetzer wasn't there today and Jesus was not playing well. So that's ah that's really where I'm at. rob Rob also bringing up this really good point here. Leyva showed really well.
00:09:49
Speaker
Dude, that that ah he had one bad shot where he he just decided to rip it and take it towards the end of the match. But what are you going to do? the other thing The other time ah he took a shot was I think there was already an offside call. or No, moose Moose got called for a foul, and he hit that nice volley that ended up in the back of the net.
00:10:07
Speaker
Maybe the keeper's there. Maybe, the you know, whatever. Who knows? But I do like to see him. I do like to see him do that. Chat. I'm going to beg.
00:10:18
Speaker
I'm going to bag, I'm so sorry, but if you want to join the stream, please, please, please, please please do. We have no one in the queue. I really don't want to talk about this game anymore. I want to hear what you guys have to say.
00:10:32
Speaker
The link is in chat. Pop in here, come talk with us, let us know what what you thought of this
Listener Call-ins and Reflections
00:10:41
Speaker
match. If you ever want to think about this match again,
00:10:44
Speaker
um or what else? Looks like we've got our first victim here. Zazzo, who I can never pronounce the name of, but give me a thumbs up if you're ready to go.
00:10:56
Speaker
All right. Welcome back. you Thank you. Yeah, i feel I feel like for once, maybe it's time to be maybe a little bit of a voice of reason.
00:11:07
Speaker
1-0 loss against a very physical St. Louis side, and you didn't give up a goal an open play. and you you really were a questionable refereeing decision from drawing it.
00:11:19
Speaker
I mean, it took a real good moment of magic from their number 10, their main dude. And it's like, okay, that and happens. It sucks. It maybe sucks a little bit more based on how recently the highs and lows have been.
00:11:31
Speaker
But in isolation, i think you get to walk away from that game with a lot more positives on the sheet than negatives. You know, Georgie Meningu looks like a dog. KKR looks like a dog. Paul Rothrock was giving people fits.
00:11:45
Speaker
And the commentators for perhaps as unpolished as they were at times seem to recognize that. um But I think I think maybe we get to start so looking at Jesus Ferreira and kind of wondering what's happening, you know? Yeah.
00:12:03
Speaker
but ah where where is it? Like, what what does he need to be successful? Do we have to dive back into some Dallas tape? Do we have to build it around him? um As good as he was those couple of years in the 2019 Gold Cup team, I mean, that's a player Dallas was cool losing at a time when Dallas had did not have a wealth of extra talent to lose.
00:12:25
Speaker
So you've got to kind of wonder, are we kind of reaching, you know, you've got to have a couple of piano carriers for him. yeah I don't know. and I'm going to bring in Ari. He's here. I want to hear his take on this Jesus Ferreira thing because I had a little crash out about it. So Ari, welcome to the show.
00:12:43
Speaker
How's it going, guys?
00:12:46
Speaker
um You know, ah I'm actually ah I'm not I'm not crashing out at all. I'm not crashing out at all. I only caught the end of what Swazo was saying there. um But my thing is,
00:12:59
Speaker
Like we're talking about my expectations going into this game. ah If you ask me if I would have been cool with a 0-0 or a 1-1, given the ah travel situation and the injuries that they're dealing with right now,
00:13:12
Speaker
I would have said that that is a perfectly fine result and even a good result. So the next question I asked myself, did they play well enough to get the zero zero or the one one? I think they did. They almost got it.
00:13:23
Speaker
ah Honestly, like, you know, they had the a penalty kick that would have given them ah yourself to make it, but they ah had a great chance of getting out of there with the one one and had the penalty called.
00:13:34
Speaker
And then i will say when, when, uh, when they were first reviewing it, I was like, man, if they, if they, uh, wave this off, I'm going to be pretty tilted because I thought, I thought at first what the broadcaster was saying about like, what's he supposed to do there? Like, uh, how is he, uh, how is he going to avoid that? I was like, yeah, exactly. Exactly.
00:13:56
Speaker
Like how, like that should stand. That should stand. Uh, but after calming down and, uh, Thinking about it a little more, seeing a couple tweets from a friend of the pod, Mark Kastner, kind of explaining the rules.
00:14:10
Speaker
I think that was the right call because he his hand keeps the ball in his path in a way that blatantly gave him an advantage, even if it wasn't the intent. So I think that it was a fair enough call.
00:14:22
Speaker
ah Just unfortunate and unlucky. But like I said, given the circumstances, I'm not that aggrieved at the performance. That's just how I feel. Maybe people are running hotter than that, but that's how I feel.
00:14:34
Speaker
No, I think that's a good take. I think that for me, i had to think about it like if I had been given that penalty against, like if the Sounders were called for a penalty like that and the dude handled the ball, I'd be tilted.
00:14:49
Speaker
I'd be tilted. So, you know, I was like, yeah, that's not a penalty. But bringing it back to the Jesus Ferreira thing. Oh, yeah. didn't get a take on that at all. What? i didn't give a take on that at all. That's what you asked about. And I just yeah cooked on something else.
00:15:02
Speaker
Do you want me to set that up again for you? yeah set it up again. Give us your, yeah, give us your setup. Okay. So let me give like a well thought out response here, but Georgia Minungu, KKR, Obed, you know, all these guys we have, even Danny Mussovsky a little bit, you can see the vision. You can see at least What they're trying to do, what they're trying to execute on.
00:15:24
Speaker
And maybe they're successful, maybe they're not. It's kind of hit or miss. They're growing. but We're cool with it. But Jesus Ferreira, I don't know maybe if I'm just blind to it, but this is a dude that Dallas let walk.
00:15:36
Speaker
When they didn't have a lot of dudes, they could let walk. It's not like they had an abundant wealth of riches and they had to to make some cap room. So you kind have the question I'm asking myself is, is is he a little bit of a guy that needs a piano carrier?
00:15:50
Speaker
Does he need a system that kind of just says you are the keystone and you work? All of that 2019 Gold Cup team were kind of everything got shoved to the front of that spear that he was in.
00:16:01
Speaker
But i I keep watching and I keep just trying to figure out what what did they see that they said? Yeah, this is the guy we want to bring in and we want to sign.
00:16:12
Speaker
Yeah, so, ah I mean, the way I feel about it right now is that I'm going to withhold, like, a definitive judgment until we see him play with the team a little bit more. i do think that ah it's not necessarily abnormal for there to be an adaptation period when you're integrating a new player like this.
00:16:32
Speaker
i was I thought he was adapting decently well for the first a few games of the season. i thought tonight, like... I don't know.
00:16:43
Speaker
It's hard to judge given all the ah circumstances that I mentioned, but I think anyone who was not super pleased with like his body language and like Noah was talking about the instances where he was like getting into it with other players seemed like he wasn't... like fully locked in on the, on the game.
00:17:00
Speaker
And he was sort of like losing his head a little bit. So that I don't think is good. ah But that is the first time recall him doing that this season. So I just hope that doesn't become a pattern.
00:17:12
Speaker
ah But overall, like I still am hopeful that he will integrate in this team in the way that we think like, ah I didn't really read too much in FC Dallas letting him go because i felt like it was a situation where they both kind of mutually agreed that it was a fresh start rather than FC Dallas being and like, we need to get this guy out of here.
00:17:31
Speaker
um But I will say like anyone who is not happy with his performance tonight, I definitely don't disagree. Well, Zazo, thank you so much for calling in. Our number one caller and favorite on the show because you're constantly in here saving me from talking to my camera alone. So we appreciate the call in.
00:17:50
Speaker
We'll see you next week. Absolutely. We'll see you next week. All right. Next up, James Inyo. Are we ready? My man. Give me a thumbs up. All right. Welcome back to the stream. James Inyo.
00:18:04
Speaker
How are we doing? Crash it out, crash it, whatever. I don't even know. i don't even know what to say. I'm just going to let you rip. You know, what I was thinking about at the end of this game was I thought back to the Austin game from 2021 where we played a full team of kids.
00:18:20
Speaker
We bring Rui Diaz on, and he just takes it on himself to yeet one from 45 yards, win the game. I thought back to 2016, teams historically bad at that point.
00:18:31
Speaker
Ladero comes in, puts the team on his back, turns everything around. It doesn't feel like our big money players are that guy. um I thought Rusnak had a Rusnak game.
00:18:44
Speaker
Take that how you will, but I don't think he stepped up. And I thought Jesus had a pretty terrible game, ah both in terms of attitude and production. You know, were talking we were talking about here, you know, Cosa Rienze should have been on earlier. We're talking Georgie was making all the difference. In the past, it's been Rothrock and Vargas.
00:19:02
Speaker
Those guys make 25 times less than Rusnak, probably 17 times less than Ferreira. And those are the guys that we're relying on. um You know, we're relying on the the guys at the low end of the salary structure to provide that moment of magic.
00:19:19
Speaker
And that it it seems to me like we've got a bit of an upside-down salary structure right now. I have to push back on the Roosnack thing. You knew i was going to. But I have to say...
00:19:30
Speaker
Yeah. But I have to say, you know, I don't think that this game was lost because of Rosnack. I really do think that he had a solid performance. I thought that he was making plays. I think that him and Jesus are not totally locked in.
00:19:48
Speaker
And you could totally see that there was a couple moments in this match where like Rosnack was looking to spring him, spring him on. And that's the way that he's been playing with a nine, regardless who who of who's been there.
00:19:59
Speaker
And now you have Jesus, who's like, he's looking behind. Rusnak's like looking to spring someone forward. And, you know, Jesus Ferreira is back in the defense, like playing tic-tac-toe with Stephen Fry, you know, because that's just like he's all over the field.
00:20:12
Speaker
and But I don't know. I thought Rusnak had some great plays today. But I'm a defender. You know that. um Again, we added the go snack emote. So we're, we love the brigade, but um I'll send it to Ari for the, for the next section.
00:20:28
Speaker
um Well, I mean, my, my, my counter. Yeah, no, go ahead. go yeah so I'm sorry. I, you know, we knew that Morris was going to be out. We knew that the, the option to spring him wasn't going to be on when he's your highest paid player. He should have more in his locker than that because Christian can spring Morris.
00:20:44
Speaker
Obed even can spring Morris. We need more from our highest paid player than that. And I just don't think that, You know, I thought this in the playoffs last year, too. he he didn't whether he was in or out of the playoffs last year, it really didn't make that much of a difference.
00:20:59
Speaker
And he's just not that guy who when the you know, when we're down bad, he's going to put the team on his back. And for the amount of money that he's making, he's got to be that guy.
00:21:11
Speaker
I guess i definitely I definitely see what you're saying. My thing is that i I just kind of hesitate to make a ah blanket statement or a judgment about any one player in a game like this where you just have...
00:21:28
Speaker
but Let's be honest, the odds are stacked pretty heavily against you, given the trio of injuries that you just took and doing a road trip this fat, like on the heels of all the travel that you've just done. That's why I said like Rusnak or whoever was out there.
00:21:43
Speaker
I was kind of hoping just to get out of there with a point. And so like, maybe that's too low of expectations to some. And you think that ah like a team like this should be able to go in there and win that game and dominate that team.
00:21:58
Speaker
But ah I do like for me, Like MLS, the league just doesn't always work like that. So that's sort of why my reaction is what it is compared to making a judgment on any player, Rusnak or anyone else. So that's ah that's that's kind of my thing, I guess.
00:22:21
Speaker
Anything else from tonight, James? No. um You know, I agree with the idea that, you know, I thought about that penalty shout as, you know, how would I feel if it was given against me?
00:22:34
Speaker
And I would have been furious. So yeah, that's for right. now But agreed. You know, I, I, I think that they just need to tell Jesus, stay up top. You know, he was trying to drop deep, wasn't working. So let's try something else.
00:22:47
Speaker
You know, you're going be here now. So just stay high for works. Yeah, I agree with that. All right. I think you're okay. You're back. You were frozen for a second, but thank you for calling in James. Second time caller. and Appreciate it. Appreciate you. Thanks for calling. call james good stuff ah Before we advance here, we're going to get Brian next, but Zach Lewis asked, can we get a gold brick emote for Roosock? You're not even ah YouTube member.
00:23:12
Speaker
Zach, you're not even a YouTube member requesting new emotes. We don't even have another slot for emotes, folks. If we get three more members, we can have more emotes.
00:23:23
Speaker
You can suggest some more emotes. Whatever. So, Zach, i don't want to hear I don't want to hear the chirping from from the non-subs. Anyway, we'll continue going. Brian, ah we're going add you to the stage. Can't see you, so hopefully you're ready to go. If you're not, we'll swap you out.
00:23:41
Speaker
Welcome, Brian. Yo, hello. How's it going? I just wasted my time, I feel like. It was just so boring to watch. I don't know why I would just watch, to be honest.
00:23:53
Speaker
Or why I watched it.
00:23:56
Speaker
It did... Okay, this maybe this sounds stupid, but this felt like a shitter midweek game. like yeah Yeah, exactly. Which is what I expected it to feel like. you know that's why and maybe Maybe that's why i'm more like I feel like I've achieved nirvana. I'm just like, whatever. You almost got the point there. Got a little unlucky at the end.
00:24:17
Speaker
Push forward, move on. But like at the same time, we both thought that the LAFC game last weekend was going to be a shitter. And they looked god tier. So it's just like one of those things where...
00:24:30
Speaker
I still expect this team to perform. You know what I'm saying? But yeah, Brian, more give us some more. Give us some more on on the why you're so I don't know, disappointed.
00:24:43
Speaker
ah well Oh, to be honest, besides the LAFC game and the like few minutes after we scored on Chris Asoul, like I don't think this season's been fun to watch at all for me. Like it's just been boring. I don't know how attack is just,
00:24:59
Speaker
We don't really do much. like and Against LAFC, we did. But besides that, I didn't watch the home open, i so I wouldn't know. like But from that, like we haven't really been doing much in the attack.
00:25:13
Speaker
I'll let Ari tackle that one. Yeah. I mean, for me, i liked ah I liked the Antigua series. I liked the Charlotte game. I liked the LAFC game. ah i thought there was some good stuff in the first Cruz Azul game. I thought the second Cruz Azul game was pretty much a categorical disaster. But I guess I feel more like there's there's been ah there's been stretches of some genuinely good ball this year. and then... ah There's been games definitely... Like the Cruze Azul game, that was a letdown. like No question about it.
00:25:45
Speaker
Poor performance, poor result. ah And then i would i would definitely agree that this game was boring and not that fun to watch. Again, that was that was my expectation going into it because they played...
00:26:01
Speaker
yeah 15 games in the last 11 days and traveled 38,000 miles in that time, you know, so like, I don't I just I doubt it would have looked much different, no matter who's on the roster when you throw the injuries and like, sir I mean, maybe that's cope.
00:26:17
Speaker
Maybe that's cope. But yeah, I mean, I think I'm a little concerned still because this is essentially our starting lineup now. Yeah, that's what I was going to say. For like the next month, this is our best team, but besides putting in the A-mark. But, yeah, that's our best team for the next month.
00:26:31
Speaker
And I don't even think the defense played that bad other than Jackson made some more mistakes, which maybe ah maybe we want to hit on that. Maybe we want to hit on – do you have any Jackson takes?
00:26:43
Speaker
um I mean, yeah, his – I don't know. Not really, like – It's just, I'm just disappointed. But I want to speak on Jesus. Like, I don't know. His signing kind of reminds me of Rusnak when we first signed him. Like, as in, we're not playing in his proper position.
00:27:05
Speaker
Like, I think Jesus is more of like a nine and a half or like he plays behind a striker. But obviously, we have Rusnak there. And then up front, it's Jordan when he's fit. So, he's kind of forced to play on the wing. And today at the nine, he didn't look good.
00:27:21
Speaker
like overall yeah that's interesting that is an interesting take i do see where you're coming from with that because yeah when rusnak came on kind of just plugged him in wherever and uh it took him a while to get settled back in when he was playing his proper position um are you anything to say about that uh can i respond to a chat real quick yeah respond a chat Almost got the point. One shot on goal. Ha ha ha ha. Come on, bro. Like, I don't know what you mean. Like they, they had a penalty call that was like borderline reverse at the end that they would have got the one one.
00:27:59
Speaker
And so they got, and they only lost one zero. So that by definition is decently close to getting the point. So don't know what you're laughing at. Sorry. Well, Brian, anything else to share before we move on to our next caller?
00:28:12
Speaker
No. right All right. Hopefully ah next week's better. All right. Next up, Rob, if you want to give us a thumbs up, if you're ready to come on. All right.
00:28:23
Speaker
Welcome to the stage, Rob. Thanks for having me. Thanks for having me on, guys. I love the sign. Oh, thanks. You got a little setup. So, you know, starting off with the game state.
00:28:39
Speaker
the thing My biggest takeaway, I think, was our slowness in transition. you know St. Louis, you know we we've had three games before this to kind of know that these guys are extremely solid defensively.
00:28:53
Speaker
and i mean Look, they they had parked the bus. It was a big red bus in front of the St. Louis goal most of the game. And we could not break them down, right? and And what is usually the way you're going to break a team down?
00:29:07
Speaker
You've got to pull them out and then you've got to beat them in transition. You've got to beat them on the counter. And we just, we had no speed to do that. Now, sure, Jordan's hurt, you know, I, I, But Paulie's quick, Manungu's quick.
00:29:22
Speaker
You know, it was just it was disappointing to see there were there were two or three times I caught, you know, i caught in the game state where it's like we're trying to break out in transition and then we hold up around midfield or we hold up for guys to get into the play. And I'm like, geez, somebody just just take it. just Just go, you know. and And it was, I think the last one,
00:29:46
Speaker
I think, I can't remember if it was Musovsky or if, no, I think it was Manungu, was breaking out and he got to the top of the circle and he's like, oh, wait, I guess I better wait up. i was like, oh, George, just go, baby. Just take it.
00:29:59
Speaker
just You know, so I think overall, I think that was, and, you know, and we kind of had some of that problem last year too early on before we kind of solved some of our offensive issues.
00:30:10
Speaker
You know, there were periods of time we just could not break teams down. and And that's what this really felt like to me tonight. um I'm kind of with you, Noah. I felt like Albert actually had a really good game. like i was kind of he I think his numbers are gonna bear him out to have had a pretty solid game tonight.
00:30:31
Speaker
um he He had the one time he whiffed on the shot. He was he got into a great position. whiffed on the shot. um But it was a tough ball, right? and And the defender was right there.
00:30:43
Speaker
The defender had closed him down and had blocked the spot. So, I mean, it was, you know, I remember yelling at the TV because, you know, in the heat of them, I'm like, oh, man, i get that in. And it was just like, oh.
00:30:54
Speaker
No, I mean, it it was well defended. um The, the callback penalty was the right call. um I think, you know, that's one of those, and it's been said, but I have to agree.
00:31:07
Speaker
He definitely gained an advantage with it, hitting his hand and keeping it into his play. So I, I, I think that that was maybe the one call that Fotis got right tonight.
00:31:18
Speaker
Um, uh, Actually, okay, I'll cut him some slack. There were some early shoulder to shoulders that were good calls, but it set a tone.
00:31:30
Speaker
Yeah, it seemed he wanted to let things go, yeah it really spiraled. he was like too committed to that. Yeah. He really was, and it got really physical. and And there were a couple of different times he let St. Louis get away with cynical fouls to break up the play with no yellow cards when we were getting yellows for far, far, you know, lighter stuff.
00:31:57
Speaker
And that one, you know, now, am I being a homer? Probably. i was just, but man, it just, yeah, that one had me yelling at the TV pretty loud. um So, yeah, that was, that was kind of my take there for Jesus.
00:32:15
Speaker
Maybe I should, you know, maybe I'll be an apologist here. If he is getting, if he's still working on his fitness, you know, if, cause it still seems like maybe he's at best 60 minutes fit.
00:32:29
Speaker
you know, maybe he is just experiencing that integration challenge, you know, like he's having a trickier time getting into good spots. He's not putting shots on frame, um you know, for a guy who should be a pretty clinical finisher.
00:32:45
Speaker
he he just seems, he seems to be missing wide high, you know, and, but a lot of that can come from fitness. You know, the field wasn't particularly great tonight. It was extremely wet. People were talking about Reagan having some slips and trips, but,
00:32:59
Speaker
And, you know, when you actually, yeah, I mean, Missouri, Missouri just got hammered. You know, they did mention that on the, on the broadcast that Missouri got hammered with a lot of rain this week or in the last 24 hours. And so, and that field did look pretty slick.
00:33:16
Speaker
Yeah. So i you know, but all right. So maybe I'm being an apologist. I don't know, but yeah, I'm, I'm calming down. That's good.
00:33:27
Speaker
i think, no, I think that... It's cathartic. Thanks, guys. Yeah, of course. I think the Hayses... That's why we're here. Yeah, the Hayses thing is real. i think what Ari is saying about it's a little bit too early to make a definitive decision on what's going on with him.
00:33:43
Speaker
I agree. I've been saying I feel like he's not fit. And even more than that, like, it takes time to integrate with the team. It takes time to build chemistry with players. I mean, you look at it, like,
00:33:55
Speaker
when Albert slotted back into that 10 position, it took him a minute to get acclimated with Jordan. And now they're like locked in. They're like a single brain organism. Like they don't even have to think about passing to each other.
00:34:08
Speaker
And I really do think that like they're, I'll be the first to admit, Jesus had a a terrible game, but like, I don't think it's being apologist to say like, it was kind of stacked against him.
00:34:19
Speaker
It's his first time up there starting at the nine where like, he's going to have to be carrying the load for the next few weeks. And what I thought was more concerning than his play was his crashing out on the field and, and like, punching of another player. Like, what do what are we doing? Yeah.
00:34:37
Speaker
ah You know, that's kind of where I think some St. Louis dark arts kind of got in his head. Yeah, that's true. i I think so. – Oh, the other thing i think I want to talk about if I'm going to pick, you know, if the other thing that I don't think was mentioned today, and and I bet Nico Moreno was going to catch on this is why did we start Christian Roldan over JP tonight?
00:35:03
Speaker
We have a super chat that just asked. They said Oklahoma kid just asked, why are we not playing the hammer? ah You know, honestly, i think ah now I totally expected to see Leyva and JP start as the double pivot tonight.
00:35:18
Speaker
And I was a little surprised they went back to the well with Obed and Christian after them just going pretty much 90 minutes at 7,200 feet altitude, you know, midweek. um That was, ah you know, kind of the dodgeball idea, right? You know, it's a gutsy move there, Cotton. Let's see how it works out for him. and And they did fine, right? I thought Christian and Obed looked good.
00:35:43
Speaker
They were not horrible. I think hopefully Christian isn't hurt. Hopefully he doesn't have long-term injury from Kessler executing an NFL-level tackle on him. Yeah, that was – dude, they were stealing the WWE wrestling club. That's 40 KC's bit.
00:35:59
Speaker
Like what's up with these Missouri clubs? And quite frankly, Kessler should have already been on a yellow by that point. now Now, I am a little irritated because he had a cynical foul. He should have gotten a yellow card earlier in the match for, and he didn't.
00:36:13
Speaker
And I know this is you know you know, sad sack Seattle fan, you know you know, picking on the refereeing. But, you know, anyway, whatever. But I really did feel like this game needed some JP, and I felt like You know, i honestly, I think I would have subbed Christian out in the 65th, you know, just to give the guy a break, you know, and bring JP on. Because I think JP's been playing great.
00:36:41
Speaker
You know, he has looked really good. Now, we don't see what they do in training. We don't know what's going on behind the scenes. I get all that, right? It just, it's just one of those, it was a head scratcher.
00:36:51
Speaker
I was like, eh, not really sure why we didn't bring him on. But anyway, that's JP should be playing more in general. I'm full on that agenda. I was talking about it on the stream the other day, how, uh, I don't know if it would have made a difference, but I feel like he should have played more in the, uh, in the Cruz Azul series.
00:37:09
Speaker
And he's looked good. Like when he's been on the field yeah so far this season. So I don't, I don't know. And there's no fitness issues or health issues to my knowledge. I don't get why he's not playing more. That's one thing I really don't get.
00:37:20
Speaker
Well, Rob, thank you for calling in yeah I'm cutting you off here, but we appreciate you calling in. We're going to get to the next caller. Great call, Rob. right tonight We'd love to have any call in. All right. Joe, are you ready? Give us a thumbs up if you are. Hell yeah.
00:37:36
Speaker
Welcome to the show. Before you give your takes, going read this super chat. So it's just like hold them in. Just like keep them held. Don't explode. But Ryan B asks, Leyva over CR7 agenda. Leyva needs more minutes. Ari, i kind of I kind of don't mind this agenda. What are your thoughts there?
00:37:56
Speaker
um Like, is it is the agenda that he should be like the first choice starter? I don't know. It's whatever you want. it to be I'm down with the Leyva needs more minutes agenda. I don't know if I would go as far as a like he should be starting the starter over Christian agenda, but I'm i am down with the needs more minutes agenda.
00:38:15
Speaker
Yeah. All right. I'm right there with you. Welcome to the show. Hey. Hey. What? Can you hear me? Yes, we can hear you. Okay, perfect.
00:38:27
Speaker
I'll go after the Leva needs more minutes. Like, even last year, when he was playing, when he playing, stepped him on, got a, like, that was a Nuhu assist where basically he gets the ball, holds up a defender, points to Nuhu, like, make the run now. Nuhu makes the run, and he passes Nuhu, and I believe it was Rusnak who scored.
00:38:50
Speaker
He's just like, yeah, Leibov needs more minutes, especially later in games, he's the one that can be a playmaker. The one thing I did want to talk about is Jesus Ferreira, like everyone else talked about.
00:39:00
Speaker
I don't think he and Rusnak actually fit together very well. They like to be in the same spaces. They like to, like, we kind of talked about Jesus Ferreira likes to move back. Jesus Ferreira really does well with Winger, the text.
00:39:15
Speaker
And you can kind of see it with Paul Areola where he's the best he's played is basically him, Paul, and Paul are in in the attacking third, and he just basically gets the ball, passes to Paul, Paul scores. And it was just like, oh okay, you see it. like They know each other where they're going to be, but as soon as he has to integrate with someone else hard they like passed against pass against lafc was really good because he got into the he was a 10 so he already explained that half 10 half eight thing that we're doing right now with the 210 and it's it's just kind of weird that it's just weird to me that we did sign rusnak after we got he just for it because thought oh he just will play we play two forwards he just will come in that like into the midfield get the ball spray it out wide
00:40:05
Speaker
And then basically you'd have these runs from Paul and Pedro, and basically Morris would be the guy finishing him off. So just to me, like this game, i expected I'm not crashing out because I expected a loss, to be honest, because we just played, and it was hard.
00:40:25
Speaker
The thing that like made me curious was the ref just basically like not consistent. Like, period game seemed ticky-tacky, and then it was like, I'm going let everything go, and then nothing go, and then, like, it was, to me, it was like, I can't, it's hard to figure out this game, but it's just, we like, Jesus and Roostnack, I feel like they need to find, i mean, even b Brian said, Jesus is trying to find out where he is on this team, and then he had a switch where he was trying to find his spot.
00:40:54
Speaker
So it's it's just it's just a straight – like, to me, solid formation, was like, if Manugu doesn't get something but breaking down one of the fullbacks and getting a pass in, then I don't think we're really going to produce much tonight.
00:41:08
Speaker
But – I mean, we also have to take in mind that st Louis has not allowed a single goal this season. That's true. So that was one thing that – That's a good point. That don't think anyone had talked about, but it's like, yeah, they know how to play defense.
00:41:23
Speaker
And this game – like, they – watching this game, i was like, they don't scare me in attack. Like, we literally had – slipped and touched the ball with her hand like completely screw up and then gave them a free kick from 25 yards out.
00:41:40
Speaker
And like, and Louvin's good at that. So yeah, as soon it happened, like, wouldn't it be great if they scored a goal off of like if in Reagan's now on a yellow and they scored a goal where Reagan's get the yellow to prevent the goal. I was like, yeah, that's a little,
00:41:56
Speaker
And then that happens. So that that's kind of the frustrating thing to me this year is it just feels like we're really messed. Whenever we give up a goal, it's our mess up. And then when we get a goal, it's like we really have to manufacture something. Like Manungu has to manufacture something. We have to manufacture like a transition play.
00:42:14
Speaker
Like we have to intercept a path. Like we have to intercept passes and we like we can't get anything easy. And I feel like that's kind of the struggle of this last season that happened. we It seems like there's been a little bit of a, what do you say, like ah you you you give two to get one kind of thing. Like there's there's just been so many mistakes that have led to goals. But yeah, when when you end up having to like.
00:42:44
Speaker
make a like when they score it's like a thing of beauty but we've conceded in the just dumbest possible ways i guess you know yeah can i say something about the ah jackson reagan play because we haven't really talked about that that much um so like when it first happened i definitely i think i had the same thought as everyone else which was like man he's like having a rough start to the season like that's another one like mark up another one um but i don't know like i guess the discussion the discussion question i'll throw out to you guys like how like
00:43:16
Speaker
How much are we supposed to blame a ah guy for slipping? you know like That's not decision-making. That's just like he literally slipped. like I know you could say like he's got to keep his footing there, but I don't know. That's sort of... He's like... He kind taught him you mean how i should feel about it because like he slipped, man. like I don't know. yeah To made the right call of handling the ball.
00:43:36
Speaker
like he made the like did yeah yeah but take a yellow go like there he's gonna get the ball And there's like another runner is going to be simple.
00:44:02
Speaker
Well, Joe, you're breaking up there. I think we might. Oh, you're back, but oh we're going to, going to get on next caller. Thank you so much for calling in. Hopefully we'll see you next week. All right, Chris, are you ready? Give us a thumbs up. Welcome, Chris. First of all, great background. You've got the whole setup going. I've got a little bit going on here. Like, yeah, I got, well, hold on. We got the Jordan Morris. Yeah, i got I got some stuff, you know. Okay.
00:44:27
Speaker
We got the work office popping. you know i think The work from home is is nice. You get to decorate how you like. Yeah, I feel like you could be like a YouTuber or something. and make ah like No, I'm too old for that. I'll let you guys do that.
00:44:41
Speaker
We're also getting too old for this, apparently. This season has aged me a lot. But how do you feel about this game? You know, honestly, with the injuries we had, playing a rotation away after playing at altitude in Mexico,
00:44:59
Speaker
I'm not super mad about it. Like i know there's people like, Oh my God, we should have won. We're the Sounders. i'm like, bro, it's a long season. You've got to chill out. Like they're going to have games like this, especially with injury.
00:45:11
Speaker
It's going to happen. You look at how many matches we are going to play this season. What was like, what? Almost 50 maybe. Yeah. It was 500. Yeah. something like yeah it's It's a ton.
00:45:22
Speaker
So I, one match and honestly, I didn't think they played bad. I thought with that heavy rotation, Away, they played pretty well. Is there creativity besides Georgie? No.
00:45:35
Speaker
um Which is a little concerning, right? But i don't know. I feel like i want to do talk I want to talk about Jackson real quick. He's one of the MLS best defenders.
00:45:46
Speaker
Bro slipped. The field was shit. They were all slipping. Fry slipped a couple times. like They were all over the place. like You can't blame the guy for that. Maybe they've just got the unluck of the Irish today. I don't know what it is.
00:46:00
Speaker
yeah But, yeah, it's it just happens. you know it's It's sport, and that's kind of what happens sometimes. um I did want to come with some silver linings, though.
00:46:11
Speaker
yeah I feel like with all the injuries, our young guys are going to get a ton of playing time. And I feel like that is going to translate into success at the end of the season.
00:46:22
Speaker
You're going to get guys out there like Kosi Rienzi. You're going to get guys out there like Georgie Moore. Those guys are going to get so much experience that when it comes to the end of the season, if they played all these minutes, they're going to just feel so comfortable.
00:46:37
Speaker
Brian's not going to have a hard time saying, yeah, go ahead and start the match. Or I don't feel bad subbing you in like Go for it. um Also, does it make the front office look a little harder at kind of maybe making a signing in the summer window?
00:46:57
Speaker
i don't know. They've obviously not done that a lot, but maybe it does. I don't know. um I don't know. I just think they played really well. I'm not super doom and gloom about it. im pretty okay with it i think you and i feel pretty much the same way about it that's essentially how i came out of it feeling uh i was glad that uh joe brought up the stat that uh st louis city haven't given up a goal all season because i think that's worth taking into account like you're playing what looks like one of the better defensive teams in the league right now with like like you were talking about the injuries and the travels coming off like a
00:47:37
Speaker
pretty emotionally draining result like Cruz Azul, I would say. like i know it would be nice to be able to go into every single road game that you play and go Harlem Globetrotters on them and drop five goals and take a win every single time.
00:47:53
Speaker
Just not really how the league works. So I think two things can be true. like We could have hoped and expected them to score a goal tonight, but that also it's not worth...
00:48:07
Speaker
fully crashing out over. No, absolutely not. And it was a set-piece goal. It wasn't even from the run of play. It was a nice goal. So, I mean, it was, yeah, and it was a great strike. If we would have, if Rusnak would have made that strike, we would have been oh my God, Rusnak, you know? like so i wouldn't have counted if it was Rusnak. It wouldn't have counted because it was St. Louis is, yeah, they're in Missouri and we don't, anywhere below the Mason-Dixon line doesn't count. and The only ones that count are the LA teams and Cincy, I think, counts.
00:48:34
Speaker
And there's a couple maybe other in the, there's only four or five that do. God, I hate those people so much. LaRue snack out people just, I don't know, man. I don't know.
00:48:46
Speaker
they're Careful. they'll They'll find you. They'll add you to their group chat. Come at me, bro. Come on. Let's go. go. Well, Chris, thank you for not crashing out and being crashed out. You're the opposite crashing out. You're the opposite of crashing out, Chris. Appreciate it.
00:48:58
Speaker
Thank you guys. I appreciate you guys. i appreciate your takes, all your stuff that you throw out. It's it's great to have some some takes that aren't all bad. Well, we appreciate you calling in and hope you call in next week as well. So hopefully see you soon. Thanks, Chris. Next up, we have our poster in chief, CEO of posting for the Lobbing Scorchers account. Oh, let's go.
00:49:22
Speaker
Colton, if you're ready to come in, give us a thumbs up. um um Let's go. this is a reunion of the Lobbing Scorchers mansion. folks This is where it all started, folks. Yeah, this is all my fault. People kind of forget that. It's all my fault. I actually did this unofficially. It was my unofficial idea.
00:49:41
Speaker
um But you took it and ran with it. so This podcast would not be here without Colton. And now he's back posting for us because back in the fold because we can't post.
00:49:52
Speaker
We can't post even half as good as Colton. So you're just too busy. You know, you've got other things to do. You've got takes to get off. And I have posts to get off. That's my job. That's my main purpose in life. So yeah. How are we doing?
00:50:07
Speaker
i'm ah I've achieved nirvana, man. How are how are you Okay, nice. Yeah, no, I'm feeling good. I mean, i think if if we talk about the game tonight, I'm having a pretty chill reaction to it. um One, because it's March 15th. It's very early in the season.
00:50:21
Speaker
And there's probably no other team that has had an insane start to the season like Seattle has had. I guess there's other teams that have had similar insane starts. But when it comes to the injuries and ah Vancouver, they have a team.
00:50:35
Speaker
Yeah, apparently. Apparently they're good, too. That's weird. I don't i don't know how I feel about that. yeah um But, I mean, as far as tonight goes, I honestly think that Seattle kind of played into St. Louis' hand a little bit. I mean, obviously the stats, you know, we have more possession um and and we have similar shots and and everything like that. But I just think we played into their hand by – playing into a good defensive team at the end of the day. um I think Aaron Campos said it best. St. Louis looks like a team that is coached by a center back. And I can't get that out of my head because that's exactly what they look like. yeah
00:51:10
Speaker
Yeah, it's it's great. And I honestly think like they're pretty one dimensional at the end of the day, they scored on a set piece goal, but I never really freaked out about any of their open play chances. Probably the one that looked the scariest was that near post save for I had to make later on in the game.
00:51:25
Speaker
But even then, I wasn't I wasn't tweaking per se. So, I mean, I'm here to bring the like macro view into things. And I think in the grand scope of the season, this team will be fine.
00:51:36
Speaker
um It sucks to lose and it sucks to be what, what are they now? Like one, one and two or whatever. One, one and three matter. I don't know. Whatever it is. one when It sucks.
00:51:47
Speaker
Yeah. It sucks that they haven't won more obviously at this point. However, it's a long season. I think, you know, sports fans and especially MLS fans know that these things are a marathon.
00:51:59
Speaker
Yeah. by calendar might have the longest possible season it can. i mean, the season started at this point, you know, I said on Instagram earlier, it was match week three or or through three weeks into the season, and but it's actually technically four. I think that's insane.
00:52:15
Speaker
It's already, you know, it's not even in the end of March. january Yeah, exactly. So like, I'm not crashing out on this result. I think at the end of the day, Given the injury situation, given everything else, you have to just kind of take it in stride.
00:52:29
Speaker
ah Famously, St. Louis is at altitude. And a lot a lot of people don't know this, but from the Gateway Arch on the banks of the Mississippi River to and what is now known as Energizer Park, It's a steep climb.
00:52:41
Speaker
And so another week at altitude, you know, well here we go again. um But yeah, I think, I mean, if if you look at the macro view, I think they'll be fine. ah Georgie continues to be such a highlight for me. And I think he's so close.
00:52:56
Speaker
He's so close to just being an absolute game breaker. It just seems like there's something not quite connecting with everyone else maybe or with him, whatever. It just seems like that final pass isn't quite there yet, but I think it will be. He's so young. You kind of just kind of chalk it up to that, right? He's he's an absolute stud.
00:53:15
Speaker
Yeah, and I mean, our expected goals was almost nice. It was 0.68, so so close. And that's the only thing you can ask for with XG. Yeah, it's just like if it's point six nine then you're good.
00:53:27
Speaker
I think that's how you win a lot of soccer games. I felt like the... Maybe I'm coping. I honestly felt like the ah the attack like in build-up, there's actually some some good stuff, but then it felt like felt like they couldn't even really get in position for the in the final third to have a final product, a lot of it.
00:53:48
Speaker
It was like there'd be some good build-up, and then it just died. But I think that's like to to the point, it's like that there was good defending. Like the defending was good. Like I, you know, like I got to say everyone in this stream has helped me calm down from my crash out. Like you've pulled me off the side of the bridge.
00:54:07
Speaker
I have to say, like, I feel, I feel very fine about this result now. I'm like, yeah, whatever. Yeah, dude it's March. It's March 15th. I mean, it's, it sucks. Obviously a loss is a loss. Like you don't play the game to lose.
00:54:20
Speaker
At the end of the day, like with all the injuries we've had, whether it was against Cruz de Sewell on Tuesday, Pedro, the the you know, the game prior, all of that, plus now maybe potential Christian Roldan injury, which is not a good sight, whether you believe that he should be starting or whether dan Danny Leva should be starting.
00:54:38
Speaker
I mean, Christian now is he's the most basically capped player in Sounders history. And they said it on the broadcast and it kind of blew my mind. And that's dating back to 1974. Right. Right. Like I still remember since 1974. Yeah. Yeah. He's been playing for this team for for going on 51 seasons and he just he's still there. Right. i feel that You have to hand it to him. The kids are an engine. Right. But like I mean, like seriously, I remember where I was when they drafted Christian Roldan.
00:55:05
Speaker
And now all of a sudden he's the most capped player in team history. yeah, okay, MLS history only dates back to 2009, but now it's dating back to 1974 and the NASL days and through the A-League days and all that, right? Like, that's insane, and that's really impressive.
00:55:19
Speaker
He's still very important for this team, whether that's leadership-wise, vibes-wise, whatever, and so to see him potentially pick up an injury, again, at altitude in St. Louis, it's a big, steep hill up 14th, I think it is, um it's ah it's a bummer, and now i'm I'm looking forward to next week when I will be happy almost result you know regardless of result if we can just get through a game without an injury because that's now three in a row right so um ah again against the houston dynamo who are even worse than us so that's that that's fun they have not won a match they are on one point
00:56:03
Speaker
We get to play them at home on a reset. and like The thing is, and and and this is how sports fans are, and I think it's especially how Sounders fans are, and I'm included in this.
00:56:14
Speaker
After a result like this, we crash out a little bit, and we think that the sky is falling, and then next week, they'll beat Houston 3-0, and we'll be like, oh, cool, everything's fine. This is the greatest team ever assembled. MLS comes back on.
00:56:25
Speaker
We're watching the 96 Bulls. yeah like We're fine, right? so yeah Looks like we got a um ah Christian update, actually, so from Sounder at Heart. Great website. Subscribe to it. Sounderatheart.com. For what it's worth, it looks like it was a cramp for Christian he's talking about. He talked about it in postgame. So that that's good news if that's all it turns out to be.
00:56:45
Speaker
I'm sorry, but he clearly has not seen the piss chart, okay? He was not being a good teammate if he was cramping. Tom Herman mentioned. Yeah, you got it. do Ari, do you know about the piss chart?
00:56:56
Speaker
I don't. your If your P is yellow, you're you're a bad teammate. Bad teammate, yeah. It's got to be clear. It's got to be clear, all right? I want more Gatorade in that guy's hands, so...
00:57:08
Speaker
ah Getting some liquid IVs. Yeah. We had a super chat here about Christian bringing it back. No leader on this team. Who is the player who is going to put the team on it on his back? C-Ruldon is tired but most ah cd on as tired, but most underrated player on the team.
00:57:25
Speaker
I'm not exactly sure what to take of this, so I'm just going to go with the first part of it, which is there's no leader on this team. Ari. Ari. Uh, if you ask me the leaders on this team are, I i would say Christian, JP, Steph Fry. I think there's, I think there's good leadership in the, in the locker room.
00:57:45
Speaker
I don't think, uh, I don't think that's necessarily the issue right now. Uh, but I, I understand the, uh, the concern that maybe with guys like Ladero and Rui Diaz no longer in the mix, who are such big personalities and especially Ladero, that guy was the ultimate standard setter.
00:58:07
Speaker
And I think that's something that, uh, people like, we all know how awesome of a player he was, how hard, how hard he worked, but the guy, ah the guy was, like I said, like he, he didn't let there be drop offs sometimes, you know, cause he was just, it was like force of will.
00:58:27
Speaker
So I've had concerns about how they're going to, uh, I think like replacing his skills as a player is one thing that's also very hard to do. But when they, when they moved off him, like the, uh, that leadership stuff that matters. And that is something that's not easy to replace. And I think so. The guys I mentioned have stepped up and, uh,
00:58:48
Speaker
and done an admirable job, honestly, but it it is, that is very difficult. Yeah. Everything you said, I was totally listening. I think sometimes you need that you need that guy like Nico who in a game like this, I think Nico would have done whatever he possibly could have to get a result. And sometimes that was frustrating because it looked like he was doing way too much either with the ball or without the ball, right?
00:59:17
Speaker
Sometimes in a game like this, you kind of need someone like that. And I don't know if necessarily tonight we had that, especially once... Christian left the field, right? So, um yeah, I mean, i can kind of see both sides where it's like, na yeah, there's not real a real leader on the team, but like you also have to realize that a lot of these players, especially right now,
00:59:38
Speaker
they're not really those types, I think. Right. And so you you kind of have to do the the, you know, the best at what you're working with, you know? And yeah, I'm still, I'm still not upset by tonight. Again, altitude, St. Louis, it's crazy. So um I'm not, yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm feeling chill. I'm feeling cool.
00:59:59
Speaker
Yeah. I think, i think that. we're on it too Yeah. yeah I mean, that was my whole thing with this season and is, is I've spent so much of the last time, I mean, Ari probably knows this best, but you both know this very well.
01:00:11
Speaker
I've spent so much of the last several seasons crashing out at every single game if they didn't play exactly how I wanted them to play. But I think like my... You've also achieved nirvana. Yeah, my prerogative at the beginning of the season was like, it's going to do a lot better for me if I'm like mostly positive. And if I just like take everything in stride and just kind of chill out about it To where i've spent I've spent so much time i mean in the in the stands at Allianz Stadium in St. Paul, just absolutely furious that they're not playing how I want them to play.
01:00:43
Speaker
I think they won that game 3-0. So like um I just got to chill out. you know and yeah I think all of us could use a little chill out, especially again on March 15th.
01:00:54
Speaker
like it's not even It's not even April yet that's a I think that's good wisdom. It's pretty hard to be an MLS fan and crash out over every negative result because ah like I've followed enough of these seasons now to know that...
01:01:12
Speaker
Performances and results like this are are baked into every single team's seasons because of like the crazy travel demands of this league combined with the fact that the roster rules are pretty restrictive.
01:01:26
Speaker
Like I think. like there's countless examples, but like last year, inter Miami sent the, set the points record and they were kind of not beholden to that. But even they had a game last year where they were in a situation like this with a lot of fixture congestion and injuries.
01:01:41
Speaker
And they had a game last year, at Cincinnati where they lost six to one, you know? So like, uh, it was, uh, you, you obviously want to minimize it as much as possible, but it, it do happen sometimes.
01:01:55
Speaker
Yeah. i mean, I think that, uh, At this point, I'm ready to lower my expectations quite a bit. And not not saying that that's like a bad thing or a good thing. I just think that like there's a reality that has hit all of us in the last week that like you have season-ending injury of ah of a really good starting player who was feeding into this team in a way that we didn't even know we needed.
01:02:23
Speaker
You have three other injuries, potentially, that are you know, multiple week long, like you bomb out a champions league, which that's fine.
01:02:35
Speaker
You had a really hard path. Like I was not upset about that. The way that it happened is, you know, whatever the injuries suck. But yeah, I think like now I'm trying to just like, I have to refocus. I think you're right. Like I got, I personally, i need to refocus my own expectations.
01:02:55
Speaker
and bring them back down to earth a little bit. Cause I think at least in the, at least in the short term, I was going to say, I fought, forgot to bring it up earlier, but like, if I, if I do have a concern coming out of this game, it's that, you know, this, the, the group that we saw tonight, that's, that's who's carrying it for the next month, six weeks.
01:03:18
Speaker
So ah aye I'm, I'm hopeful and cautiously optimistic that they can, play better than that and get to a point where they're they're vibing and they're scoring multiple goals and in some of these games, taking results, getting some wins.
01:03:33
Speaker
But they have to go do that. like It's not a foregone conclusion that they're going to go do that. I think they can't, but but it's not guaranteed. Yeah, but i mean it didn't look bad.
01:03:46
Speaker
right they didn't they they Yeah, they didn't look bad. right i agree. A lot of people aren't going to agree with you. but Yeah, but if that's the group that we're rolling with for the next month, like they didn't look bad on the road. They controlled that game.
01:03:58
Speaker
for once why don't we What are we, 1,500 miles away from home? yeah On the road, 1,500 miles away from home against a team that is set up very good defensively. I mean, again, they're coached by a center back. They are a very good defensive team.
01:04:12
Speaker
i don't like Do I look at that St. Louis team and I'm like, oh they're a genuine threat in the Western Conference because they're just really dynamic. no, not at all. They're good at really one thing. And that's defense.
01:04:23
Speaker
Jackson, Reagan, Michigan, man, sorry to say, set them up, set them up with a free kick, you know, basically directly in front. And they have a free kick specialist on their team. Like, that's why you build your team like this.
01:04:35
Speaker
Oh, we're super defensive, but we have this one guy who can bang him in whenever we need him to. And that's basically what happened tonight. Right? Like, Am I frightened of St. Louis going forward in the Western Conference? No, not really that much.
01:04:46
Speaker
We play them again in, what, two months? I think it's early May we play them again because I have friends from St. Louis coming in town for the game. So like we play them again in two months, and there's a very good chance that this Sounders team, whether it's the exact same team we saw tonight or the exact same team with maybe a couple injury additions, hopefully, maybe, who knows,
01:05:04
Speaker
um Bams them, right? They win 3-1, 4-1 easily, right? So, um yeah, I mean, like, I'm not super pressed about tonight's game because of, like, the team on the field, they didn't look that bad, right? There was something missing in the final third. They obviously didn't get the ball in the net, but, like, it happens. It's MLS, right?
01:05:24
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. And a lot of the guys that played tonight, uh, who are going to be carrying the load moving forward, we're integral parts of scoring five goals against LAFC. So that's one way, that's one way to cope, you know, like yeah know this is just the most recent, uh, result yeah recency bias. Like, but they, they had a very good performance before that. Like you can say that, uh, you know, Jordan scored one of those goals. Uh,
01:05:53
Speaker
looked awesome in that game They're going to have to alter the plan, but I think that you get a game like this where it's a little bit more frustrating. You see the things that don't work. It's what's going to happen.
01:06:05
Speaker
ah You lose three starters to injury. What the fuck's going to happen? Like, yeah, you're going to have to figure it out. I don't know. I don't think it's, yeah. We got Noah achieving Nirvana.
01:06:17
Speaker
Mission accomplished. I do have some bad news though. And I think that recency bias FC is the new best nickname for Seattle Sounders FC. Oh yeah. Because that's how it's been for the better part of the last decade where it's like, well, what did you do? What did you do for me last week? You know?
01:06:35
Speaker
So yeah, recency bias FC is exactly what we're going to roll with for the rest of 2025. think. I love that. i love that And Hey, listen, silver lining of this all, Mark Delgado is terrified of us.
01:06:48
Speaker
So that's definitely the real Mark Delgado. They're on their heels. The real Mark Delgado, who I definitely didn't see in the Happy Foot, Sad Foot live stream earlier today, is terrified of us.
01:06:59
Speaker
so Folks, we got zero calls in the queue right now. So Colton, honestly, it's your show. You can hang out ah as long as you want. But ah if anyone else out there does want to call in, ah the link is the link pinned, Noah? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:07:12
Speaker
yeah got the link pinned in chat. So if anyone wants to hop on and get some takes in, feel free. I just kind of have one last thing that I want to say, and then I desperately have to go eat dinner because it's yeah nearly nine o'clock at night.
01:07:25
Speaker
um I think that there is a thing, whether it's with Sounders fans, with MLS fans, where we were soccer fans first, whether that was of the English Premier League or La Liga or ah McDonald's Liga, whatever it's called now, or whatever is. Uber Eats, thank you. Yeah, Serie A, you know, whatever.
01:07:46
Speaker
um there's There's this expectation in MLS, and I think especially it seems to be really prevalent with Sounders fans, where, like, we think that because our club has run very well, which in most cases it very much is on the sport and soccer side of things, that ah eventually we're going to see a season that mirrors Arsenal's Invincibles or these great Barcelona teams that Messi was on for the last 20 years, whatever, blah, blah, blah, right?
01:08:13
Speaker
But I think sometimes we expect that, but we forget that, you know, um the Invincibles traveled eight miles to a lot of their away games. And Manchester City has traveled, you know, 256 miles all the way down to Norwich for the last few years, right?
01:08:30
Speaker
In MLS, we're not going to see a team that goes undefeated, right? Right. If there ever was going to be a team, vibes-wise and history-wise and context-wise, that did this, I do think it would probably be the Sounders. Somehow, someway, they will figure it out someday.
01:08:47
Speaker
But where we're at right now, we're just not going to see a season like that where a team blows through the entire league, right? and you brought up fine Unless you literally sign Lionel Messi and all his boys from 2012 Barcelona.
01:09:02
Speaker
But guess who's doing better than them? But even then, they weren't completely perfect, right? Like, even Miami wasn't completely perfect. Yeah, exactly. They did have a 6-1. Yeah, they they lost 6-1. Like, you didn't you didn't see Arsenal's Invincibles losing six one to anybody for that full season, right? But that's what makes them fun.
01:09:18
Speaker
it it is it It is what makes the league fun. And like, this is the most different league in the world. Probably. i think, I don't know. i don't follow the Hyundai a league as close as I used to anymore. i'm big Melbourne victory guy, by the way.
01:09:33
Speaker
um But like that up the, The Vicks? Up the Vuck is what they used to say for the victory. Up the Vuck. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But like this is one of the more unique leagues in the entire world. It basically shits on the actual FIFA soccer calendar, whatever you want to call it, versus everyone else who plays you know throughout from August through May or whatever you want to say, right?
01:09:57
Speaker
and MLS is very unique, and I think we have to understand that. i think we have to appreciate that at the end of the day. And we also have to be realistic that like we're not going to see a team that just blows through the entire season. As much as we want it to happen, we're just not going to see it. So results like this will happen.
01:10:15
Speaker
The 2016 team is a bad example because they sucked for an entire free quarters of the season. But they had really bad results. Right. Throughout that entire season, they had bad results in faraway places. The Kansas City game that got Ziggy Schmidt fired as coach of the Sounders.
01:10:29
Speaker
That was a really bad result. Right. And it was bad
Seattle Sounders' Journey and Future Prospects
01:10:32
Speaker
time a year. and It was really hot out there and it was gross. And it killed him. Yeah. And the 29th. The 2019 team had bad results, right?
01:10:42
Speaker
Obviously, now we look back on that team with a lot of happiness and joy because they did win MLS Cup. But I'm sure if you went back through the season, there was a lot of games that I walked out of Lumen Field, Centrillion Field, whatever you want to call it, really upset and really pissed off at how they played.
01:10:57
Speaker
And so... Results like this, i think I realized, don't bother me as much anymore because, like, this shit happens. They lost by a goal. And again, it was a free kick goal.
01:11:09
Speaker
And they had chances towards the end. And they had they had a genuine opportunity to win the game if that penalty could have stood. But it didn't. And it shouldn't have because you can't do that with the ball. um And so...
01:11:21
Speaker
We just have to look at everything in context, and I think that the 2025 version of the Seattle Sounders is just fine. um but they're They're good. We're all good. They got the Dynamo next week in Houston.
01:11:33
Speaker
If they beat Houston 6-0, which they very much could... could we're going to be back to normal. We're just going to be our normal, obnoxious, loudmouth selves like we are for... It's such a cursed road trip, though. Although maybe it's time of year, the weather will not be. It's in Seattle.
01:11:52
Speaker
Yeah. Oh, I thought it was on the road. Okay. No, yeah. It's in Seattle. Yeah. yeah return Hoping. Yeah, that's good. This is what we're on right now. Yeah, yeah. I said I was going to eat dinner. I'm actually just going to hook myself up to one of those. That's what I'm doing for the rest of the night. So...
01:12:09
Speaker
Well, Colton, thank you so much for joining us.
Community Engagement and Future Plans
01:12:13
Speaker
He will be posting for us. was going to say, can I plug? Can I plug? Plug, plug, plug. Yeah, plug. um Follow the at Lobbing Scorchers on Instagram. I should probably know that, but I don't.
01:12:24
Speaker
Yeah, follow follow us on Instagram. I'm going to definitely start getting people more engaged and involved because I do want to hear your thoughts and I do want to hear your opinions. And I'm going to respond to them with a, in some cases, very shittily made on my phone meme because I think that that's funny. So yeah, follow us on Instagram. um Shout out to Ari and Noah for getting this far. I'm very proud of both of them.
01:12:49
Speaker
That's my one sappy moment that I'll give for the evening. um But yeah, other than that, thanks for having me on. This has been a lot of fun. so Yeah, you're calling back in next time we do this. Yeah, i'm not going to be calling in next next weekend. I'm just going to be honest with you. Our good buddy Mark is in town. We're going to the game.
01:13:07
Speaker
Yes. And that that call is not going to be – that's not going to be good for live YouTube TV. That's not going to be good. so
01:13:17
Speaker
All right. Well, Colton, I'm letting you go into the sunset. Enjoy your dinner. Good stuff, Colton. Sorry. I think people from chat wanted you to read some chat messages and react to them and then we can get out of here, but I'm cool with just dip in right now. If you want to, there was a couple of things that I wanted to get to. ah James had the correct, ah like, well, I guess clarification on the ah Christian rolled on stat, like ah most appearances for a field player, Steph Fry technically like has that distinction, but Christian has the most ah as a field player.
01:13:57
Speaker
He will break it, I think. ah chris oh Also, i I wanted to ah correct Wade real here. He said, guys, let Craig cook. I like ah you know be being ah being sarcastic, but and I got to correct. We didn't say let Craig cook.
01:14:13
Speaker
I posed the question, does Craig have that dog in him? I wasn't even saying that he did, though, to be fair. I was just posing. That was another blogger. that said that let Craig cook, that was, ah or Craig, cooking that was someone else. I didn't say that.
01:14:28
Speaker
I guess. Yeah, that wasn't us. I said, does he have that dog in him? Yeah. Uh, someone said, uh, Mark Delgado also asks, is this happy foot, sad foot? Who's who? I think I would be Travis probably.
01:14:43
Speaker
Cause I, cause I think we, it's not accurate we have no fucking clue what we're talking about. Um, Ari, who do you think you would be? I'll be Darren. I like Darren. Yeah, there you go. and then Yeah, that seems about right.
01:14:59
Speaker
yeah I guess I'll toss one to you. How do you feel about the Niko revenge game? The Niko revenge game loading. No, i'll listen. okay I saw a lot of people saying, man, doesn't it look really bad that we didn't sign Niko on a minimum right now?
01:15:18
Speaker
Doesn't it look real bad that we didn't sign Nico on a minimum right now? Like, I mean, kind of like with the injuries, but hindsight's hindsight is 2020 folks. um I think, listen, I love Nico Ladero. He's one of my favorite soccer players of all time. He's someone who means a lot to me and I'm excited to see him play in Lumenfield. That said, I would like him to get so upset and frustrated because I would like him to feel the wrath of Yamar, Jackson, Reagan, Nuhu, everyone, everyone. I want Jesus Ferreira landed fucking 45 goals on him.
01:15:56
Speaker
And that's that's my take on that. I feel like it'll be fun. I do think there's probably an overlap of... people who were talking about how cooked Nico was towards the end of his Seattle tenure. And we're like, it was like they were talking about how Craig is like incompetent for not moving off of them like a year earlier.
01:16:15
Speaker
and then also are there's probably the some of those same people who are like, how could they not bring him back on the minimum? i don't know. Just, yeah. I mean, but on a minimum is different. Like, especially cause it's like the, kid but he would have been on a minimum.
01:16:26
Speaker
i or Yeah. I don't know. But like, you know, if you're going to defend the Kim Kihee thing for depth, Yeah, yeah. No, for sure. ah there's there Here's an interesting idea. no There's reports Cade Cowell wants to come back to MLS.
01:16:38
Speaker
Maybe Seattle could look into that. um He's got gray hair. well my thing He's guy. I'm not... I've always been unsure if he's good. He's very physically gifted, super fast, really strong. And you look at him play and you're like, this guy should be the best player alive.
01:16:58
Speaker
And then then then you watch him when I watched him play for the Quakes, I'd be like, I don't know if he's that good. To be fair, I haven't watched him since he went to Chivas. I think he's on Chivas now.
01:17:09
Speaker
yeah Maybe he's good. I'm not saying he's not good. I'm just saying that's something that I questioned in the past. I mean, i don't think he's bad at all. Like, I mean, he he's scored six goals in 38 appearances or something like that.
01:17:21
Speaker
And I think that he's a solid player. Like, i I quite like the way he plays. I wouldn't hate it if they did it. Like, if I got the if i got the notification tomorrow that they did it, I wouldn't hate it.
01:17:34
Speaker
He's 21. You can get him on U22. Like, I think that could be an interesting shout. He is... I just don't, yeah, there's not really a lot of downside to that. Like what's the.
01:17:48
Speaker
Let's resurrect Mauro Diaz. That's a good name drop. Whoa. Fabian Castillo. That was the, that was the duo. Yeah. Fabian Castillo, Mauro Diaz, and then Jesus Ferrer came in on that. And he has only 34 still playing in the Ecuadorian top flight.
01:18:03
Speaker
Dude. Mauro Diaz was a legend. He had Maxi Rudy in there too. And, um, those FC Dallas teams with Mauro Diaz and Fabian Castillo were nice. Dude, i've seen Dallas, I just don't know what goes on there because they have incredibly talented players and then just play like FC Dallas. I don't know.
01:18:23
Speaker
i don't know. Now we're talking FC Dallas, Ari. I think that's fine that we can wrap it up. Yeah, i think we're chalked here. Thank you all for listening in. I'm going to shill this one more time.
01:18:35
Speaker
Become a YouTube member. If we get three more YouTube members, we can do some more emotes and all of that kind of stuff. We already have some extras made for when that goes live. We've got new emotes that are up there now. We've got GoSnack.
01:18:48
Speaker
We've got ah knew Who as a train. one for the Brigade. We made one for the brigade and all the brigade is not members. Like, I see the brigade in here and they have no membership. It's like, if you're gonna be brigade and broke, like, that's... pick a struggle.
01:19:03
Speaker
You know what I'm saying? Anyway, love you guys. Thank you all for watching.
01:19:09
Speaker
Subscribe the channel. Like the video. Like video. Yeah, please like the video. Sign Blazin' Poker, yes. I don't know.
01:19:20
Speaker
Share with... I don't know, dude. I'm done. I'm done. I'm cooked. Anything for you, Zary? No, think that was it. Like the video, sub to the channel.
01:19:32
Speaker
Yeah. Nah, we're good. Alright. Bye, chat.