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Well, sir, we got a scorcher today. Gonna be a real scorcher today. What the scorcher today? Well, it's gonna be scorcher.
Show Preview and Sponsors
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I do have big show planned for you all tonight. We're going to talk some Ryan Kent. There's updates with the Ryan Kent situation. ah Got Schmetz sound on that that I was going to play for you guys and then and then react to.
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Talk about that acquisition, which appears not just imminent, but all but complete. He's in the city of Seattle. So that's... That's a big development.
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so we're going to talk about that. We're going to scout up the San Jose Earthquakes a little bit. Seattle's got a big bigger game than it should be this weekend, five considering that it's the San Jose Earthquakes in March.
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So we're going to talk about that. And get some league-wide storylines that I wanted to hit as well. And maybe some stadium discourse. We dropped another video today. So yeah.
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go in Go ahead and hop in the comment section on our stadium video if you haven't yet. It's popping in there. So it's going to talk about that a little bit as well. Get some shilling out of the way off the top.
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Interview Announcement and Ryan Kent Signing Rumors
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And lastly, we have a new interview coming out with Corey Hinthorne, who is the general manager of West Seattle Junction FC, which is the USL League Two club representing West Seattle, which started play last year. They're the Ballard FC rival for those who might not know.
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those are Those are hot derbies. But we talked to Corey for a long time the other night. Excited for that to come out. He's a really cool guy. And we had some – we got a good window into what it's like being a League 2 GM and everything that goes into that.
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And also just got some good insight on the club and the whole scene surrounding that. So definitely check that out and support your lower division local soccer.
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ah All right. As I wait for Noah here to bring over my mic cable, let's talk about some Ryan Kent, guys. Let's talk about some Ryan Kent.
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ah Hot off the press today. Get my screen sharing set up here.
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Hot off the press today from Sounder at Heart, Jeremiah Shand. Ryan Kent is apparently already in town. Sounders head coach Brian schmeer and Schmetzer has dropped some pretty heavy hints that a signing could be and imminent. That's right.
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So Schmetz was on in KJR. He was doing his KJR hit a day or two ago and asked him about Ryan Kent. And he was basically like, you know, teasing it. Well, he might you might see something announced in the in the near future. here He said something to that effect.
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And then ah he was asked about that today, and he said pretty much the same thing. i wanted to actually play the Schmetz sound as well, and then and then I can react to that because he also had some takes on the Club World
Club World Cup Prize Pool Discussion
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Cup. So I'm going to pull that up right now as well, and then we can we can talk some Ryan Kent.
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The biggest thing would want to ask is obviously on the radio, you talked about Ryan being here. Is there a signing? Well, I said there might have been a guy named Ryan here at SeaTac. I said I might have seen him in the facility today. Other people saw him the facility.
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I mean, you guys can read into that what you want. As soon as we get the blessing, we'll make an announcement. There's some legal things we have to do before we can make an official announcement.
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If that answers your question. Okay. All right. So we were talking to Steph about this, but the ah prize pool came out for the Club World Cup.
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A fair amount of money. yeah i do you have any... I know there is a clause in the CBA that sort of addresses other tournaments, but does it feel like something where you're you're hoping the players are able to get a bigger cut than what would be otherwise guaranteed?
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Well... Or how do you hope that money gets used? Let me put it that way. Well, look, it it's a obviously a lot of money for the club. Where the club, how the guys upstairs use it, what the players deserve. I mean, that's going to be a good conversation because, look, the club can use the money for a lot of different good things.
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The players work awfully hard. I mean, they worked hard for that opportunity to play in this tournament, so they should be rewarded. But, you know, if somebody asks me my opinion, i'll I'll certainly, you know, give it to them. But I'm sure that's going to be a group discussion.
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And we'll figure it out. Look, the players are well compensated. They'll get money. The club's going to get money. So I think it's a win-win for everybody. Do you hope that some of that money gets reinvested into a transfer fee? I mean, obviously, I haven't spent a lot of money on transfers lately.
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Well, I'll stay away from that one. But, but yeah, i'm I'm hoping that whatever the club does, They spend that money wisely because again, we're going to spend, you know, maybe not as much as the Atlantas or whatever, but we're going to spend money.
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We've always shown that if the club, if the team wouldn't, if the team isn't going to be successful, then the club has always spent money. mean, again, again, there's a lot of metrics that Tyler has upstairs.
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You can look at the clock and say we were eight minutes away from maybe getting into overtime and hosting a final. We were close. I understand the disappointments of not beating LAFC last year in the semifinal of an open cup at our preferred locations. I get all that. i mean And I get all the fans that say, oh, we need to score more.
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I understand all of that. But the team over the course of time has been extremely successful, in my opinion, including. like right. lot to talk about from Schmetz there. uh, I let that sound run for his quotes on the club world cup and also his take just on the, uh, on the spending discourse. It seems like Schmetz has been paying attention to it. You know, we thought that, uh,
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He might listen to the pod, and I think he does. So shout out Schmetz. ah But, yeah, a lot to unpack there. ah Tiago, we're aware of the mic situation. I'm rolling no mic for now. The cable is is at Noah's place, so I'm rolling no mic.
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Hopefully, or yeah, rolling no mic. Hopefully the audio is good enough to to get through it tonight.
Ryan Kent's Impact and Match Fitness Concerns
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have a mic for the next stream. um Well, first, all right, let's talk some Ryan Kent. ah Schmetz indicated there that he's not only in Seattle, but is at the facility, and that there is just legal technicalities, last I's to be dotted, T's to be crossed, and then they'll make an official announcement.
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But it seems like this Ryan Kent thing is happening. So... Let's talk about that. We kind of, ah we talked about it on one of our last live shows, you know,
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what kind of our initial thoughts. But now that I've got to, what I dove into the YouTube highlights, I watched some of the film, and i learned a little more about him. And I feel like I have a bit more of an informed take on what I think of the whole situation now.
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I guess I'll start with this quote from Tom Bogert that Jeremiah cited in the Sounded Heart article. This is Tom Bogert, the national pundit, giving his thought on the on the Ryan Kent acquisition, which appears imminent.
00:09:11
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ah Tom said if he's able to fit, I think this is a no-brainer. No-brainer. I think several and MLS teams should have been in on this. Doesn't mean he's going to be a game-changing player, but I think he can be, and the risk is pretty low. So I guess the first thing that I would say is that after learning more about the player, reading about him a little more, and ah getting up to date on just his background and his career date, I think he's got a little more pedigree then I thought upon first learning about it.
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oh It's definitely a distressed asset money ball type situation. Like if you look at his transfer market page, and went, he was his peak value. It says on transfer market was like 17 or 18 million. Now it's only couple million.
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So it's definitely a situation where Seattle's trying to capitalize on that. But my, my, my read on it is it's definitely a worthwhile chance to take, especially taking into account the Paul Areola injury. If Paul Areola doesn't get hurt, this probably doesn't happen.
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But think the reality with De La Vega at this point is you you just need to proceed as if you're not going to get anything from him this year, possibly ever.
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So like on it, like he, he supposed to be back in a couple of weeks. And if he comes back in a couple of weeks, gets fit and looks like he did earlier in the season, then great. But I, the way I would be approaching and planning it is that, that that's not going to happen. And so I think this move is kind of reflective of that to an extent But as far as his skill set as a player, I think he gives creativity from out wide that is sorely needed at the moment.
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And we talked about this on the pod, but I think like I like the intensity that he plays with. I like the the fact that he he plays like a maniac out there, I think is the term I use. That's kind of what I see when I watch his highlights.
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I see a guy that's just going like 110 miles per hour at all times, which there can be pros and cons to that, but I think that could be a good thing for this team. Like having someone who's high octane, high and high intensity, just runs a lot, works hard. It seems like from what I see, he has all those attributes.
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I think the... yeah the questions and I guess we'll learn more about this, but he, does he seems like definitely like an eccentric personality, which might've rubbed coaches the wrong way at, uh, at one juncture or another, it seems like he and Mourinho did not see eye to eye at all.
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So, uh, That's something to keep in mind. But i think he theoretically, he hasn't been playing for a while. He's been without a team for a long time.
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And I think he, it's definitely in his best interest to be fully bought in and not be a malcontent or have any attitude issues or anything like that.
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And honestly, i frankly I frankly don't even know if that type of stuff has been issues with him. but with him I just know he had a falling out with Mourinho, and Mourinho never seemed to rate him.
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And there also is there is like a video of him ah that I found on YouTube of getting him getting into it with a guy from Celtic during the Scottish Derby. That's like the biggest Derby in the Scottish Premiership.
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And the he punched a guy, which you can't do. You can't do, but he does play with ah but fire. So I like that.
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get to so I'll get to a couple things in chat here. The hang up is that they need to figure out how to register his pet croc. Yeah, so apparently they're actually alligator alligators, which there's a big difference.
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But that's a kind of what I mean when I say eccentric. Like, Who has pet alligator? I wouldn't want a pet alligator. I don't really find them that cute.
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So, I mean, but he's got exotic pets. So that's one thing, I guess. We're going to ask him about that. I wonder if he's going to bring them stateside or if he's already brought them stateside. We're going to be on the alligator, beat keeping track of that.
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um But as far as his player profile, like I said, seems like he is pretty, Offer some wide creativity and some wide service, which I think should be beneficial.
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I seem to have caused a ah minor controversy and outrage when ah when I made a comp to Brad Smith on a lot of scorchers kickoff with Nico.
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um I just to clarify that I said that having literally never once watched him play at all to be able to make a comp to anybody one way or the other.
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The reason I brought Brad Smith up was because Liverpool Academy and left sided wide player. That was literally it. There was nothing more to that than that. People there's people in our YouTube comments. who He's not Brad Smith. It's not Brad. Still call him Brad Smith.
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Which first of all, like the Brad Smith disrespect. you know I could do without. I like Brad Smith. I seem to be kind of on the mine in the minority on that. A lot of people didn't rate Brad Smith at all because think the narrative with him was that he was a pretty good attacking player, ah but that played no defense as a fullback.
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But I always thought that was a little overblown. I thought his defense wasn't spectacular, but it was okay. and ah And they have not really replaced the type of – the type of crossing ability and wide service that he brought to the table since he hasn't been on the team.
00:15:11
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So let's respect Brad Smith. But ah yeah, a lot of people were saying it's more Victor Rodriguez than Brad Smith, which I think, you know, that could be accurate. I don't know how anyone's comping him to anybody. that Like there's some people who apparently are like Ryan Kent.
00:15:30
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experts which I don't claim to be but uh it does seem like as far as the need on the roster with Areola going down and also with De La Vega just being uh his reliability being an open question at absolute best I think this is step towards addressing that and I'm willing to be open-minded about it see what he's got hopefully he's bought in and uh
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The eccentricities don't become an issue, but I think he must realize that having been without a club for as long as he has and coming to this club, it is very much in his best interest to be fully bought in, locked in, help the team however he can. so Let's hope if he does that. I think Tom Bogue saying that he was surprised to see other MLS clubs not in on it was that kind of surprising. So, all right.
00:16:32
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Noah's on his way with the mic cable, everybody. Noah's on his way with the mic cable. JP says, not saying he's going to be like Wonga or Mugtar, but he has a similar European pedigree and these types of players coming from smaller European leagues tend to do well in MLS.
00:16:50
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Yeah, no, I think that's that's a good point. I mean, Seattle has had success with signings like this in the past. So... I definitely think, if nothing else, you know, these things, it might not work out.
00:17:03
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But I think the question you always have to ask yourself is the process sound. The process is sound and it still doesn't work out. Then at least you can say your process made sense and the logic checked out.
00:17:14
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I think the logic does check out here. It's pretty low risk. And I think it's higher reward. than thought it would be in the sense that, like I said, I think I kind of, I considered him a more random player than he actually is. If you look him up, he, a lot of people, obviously, from the fact that he came up in a Premier League Academy, lot of people who follow the Prem seem to know about him. And he's definitely, he definitely made a lasting impression on the Scottish Premiership.
00:17:47
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ah Jeremiah noted it in the article, but he's, He had three goals, eight assists as recently as 2022, 2023.
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and also, he definitely made an impression in the Scottish Derby against Celtic when he punched a guy. That wasn't a positive impression, but it was definitely an impression.
00:18:08
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So, yeah, I would say Buonga or Mugtar would be like – Those guys are like MVP candidates. So that would be like the insane best case scenario.
00:18:22
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But he doesn't need to be that to be a meaningfully like needle moving addition to the team. And I think that's kind of where i would peg my hope.
00:18:33
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Maybe not. but I wouldn't say my expectation because I really have no idea what to expect. But my hope would be that he. if if he's if he's not a star, that he can at least, like I said, move the needle, put up some numbers on the stat sheet, and bring an element to this team that with De La Vega constantly in and out of the lineup and Areola out for the year, they were going to be hurting for this type of skill set until De La Vega gets back. And like I said, like it just feels like De La Vega at this point,
00:19:11
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you can You can have hopes that he's going to come back and be fit and contribute for the rest of the season. I just would not bank on that. Matt Sexton says, I think the Johnny Russ comparison made a lot of sense. That's a good shot.
00:19:26
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High side, what Johnny meant to SKC. Low side, another player bringing chaos to a team that seems to need it. Yeah, I like that. I like that take. I think Johnny Russell is –
00:19:38
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That's like a yeah Johnny Russell or Sebastian Blanco, like that tier of player in a in the league.
00:19:49
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I think that is the hope here. That is the hope here. And I'm interested um interested to hear him speak and learn about him ah little bit.
00:20:02
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He definitely seems like an interesting guy.
Technical Difficulties and Sounders Updates
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um've never I don't think there's have ever been anyone on the team who has crocodiles.
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So there's that. And on it like the more I think about it, the more i ah i like the idea of
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some kind of eccentric personality joining this team. I've actually been, I've been saying for years that I've been, I've been saying that they're like too nice. Like they need more dogs. They need more, they need more Ozzie Alonzo type characters.
00:20:41
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and He's not an Ozzie Alonzo type character in like the, the like bruiser defensive midfield type profile But if you watch his highlights, he plays extremely hard.
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He's just always running at top speed.
00:21:00
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It seems like maybe he needs to chill sometimes, but that's good. That's good. I like i like someone who doesn't have a lot of chill.
00:21:10
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Reese says this guy is not going to match fit for weeks. He hasn't played minutes in five months. Okay, that's a good point. That is a good point. I think... whatever benefit they're hoping to get from Ryan Kent, you're probably not going to see it for a little while.
00:21:25
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so all right, Noah just buzzed in. You've got the mic cables, so I'll be right back.
00:21:55
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oh all right Noah's coming up right now. We're going to get this mic fixed. Like I said, it wouldn't be Lobby Scorcher stream without technical difficulties. It's funny because I thought that I thought I was just locked in and good to go.
00:22:12
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And then my mic didn't have the cable in it. So.
00:22:19
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Chat. What's up, dude? What up? What up, chat? It was a good start. It was a good start. How's it going, Chad? got an unexpected guest appearance. Unexpected Noah guest appearance.
00:22:30
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We probably both could have thought of that. Yeah, well, you know. This is a rinky ding-off right now. It's a rinky ding-off. we were We work for donors. One donor and I'll plug this mic cable in right now. If you super chat it, I'll use a microphone for the stretch.
00:22:49
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Tech support Noah. Exactly. It's a good thing we lived so close, huh? yeah
00:23:08
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Check, check Check, check We got a microphone Should I join in? Yeah, you can ah you do have to you have to plug in yeah cool uh i was just talking more about uh talking more about while uh ryan kent so oh let's go our our favorite crocodile boy someone someone said it's crocodiles not alligators so we had fucked that up but yeah exactly it's like the same thing what ah can any chat what's the difference between a crocodile and an alligator i guess i could have looked that up but what is the actual difference yeah
00:23:49
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Go check check check. Am I louder than Ari? Am I the same? All the settings look the same. so Their nose is the difference between a croc and an alligator? There's no way that's a thing.
00:24:03
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You guys are making that up.
00:24:11
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Oh there's nothing in there. oh You just sink it. this cup nice
00:24:20
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Alligators have a broader yeah U-shaped snout and preferring fresh water, while crocodiles have a narrower V-shaped snout and prefer brackish or salt water.
00:24:33
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So which one would prefer prefer the Northwest? What would prefer the Pacific Northwest, an alligator or a crocodile? I'm just, ah like, he's going to get asked about it at the presser. like um You know he is. i want to go to the zoo with him. Straight from Google.
00:24:55
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All right, we got an unexpected Noah appearance on the stream. Noah, I was just talking about Ryan Kent for ah for a while, and yeah I was saying that I think that skill set-wise, pedigree-wise, and given the situation that they're in with De La Vega and Areola, it's at least a worthwhile gamble, is it not?
00:25:16
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And then I think the... ah The thing that I was talking about right when you got here was just like the the personality that he could bring to the team. There's eccentricities here between like the punch of the guy. in the Yeah, we love a face puncher guy. In the Scottish Derby and the ah crocodile ownership.
00:25:34
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Eccentric personality. Now, provided he doesn't punch anybody on the field, though, I think that that's a good thing. what are how are Where are you at with this Ryan Kent thing now that ah now that it seems like Schmetz was basically confirming it? Yeah.
00:25:47
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Yeah, well, i think I think something you didn't, i don't know if you talked about it, but it was a really good bit that he did where at training two days ago, he said, I have no fucking clue who this guy is. Like, I legitimately don't know who this guy is if they're going to sign someone.
00:26:02
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You guys, yeah, he's like, you guys know more than I do then. ah And then after that, he goes on KJR literally that night and says, oh yeah, you know, there's Ryan Kent guy, bla bla blah, blah, blah, blah. I'm like, bro.
00:26:14
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he loves rolell He loves giving the KJR guys the tea. He'll never give any of us that. He's a talk radio head, which I think is kind of why he likes our show because we do give kind of talk radio vibes. Did you catch the sound that I played at the top of it? Yeah, dude. He literally hit on your specific talking point.
00:26:34
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Well, yeah. yeah like Schmitz listens. He's probably watching right now. What's up, Schmitz? What up, coach? Call in. But, ah I mean, any other thoughts, like just skill set wise what you think he's going to bring to the team? Like, how are you feeling about it all?
00:26:51
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I think it's I think it's awesome, man. i I didn't really have a thought on it initially because I just had no clue who he was. But I did some research after I read the Nico report and he looks great, man. Like, I'm I'm not going to um I don't know. I saw je ah a post by Jeremiah who was pretty he's really high on this guy.
00:27:11
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I'm not saying that I'm low on this guy, but let's pump the brakes a little bit. like He has not played in months, and he wasn't in favor with his club even when he was on the roster.
00:27:21
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So I'm just a little like, we're probably not going to see him until the club rolls up. That's what I was just talking about, too. I mean, no, I think he'll be... think realistically...
00:27:33
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I don't know. How long does it take to get match fit? Like but a month? I think it depends, right? Like it depends because the difference is there's just such a difference with major league soccer. Like major league soccer is so different than a European league.
00:27:48
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I think the Turkish league is probably a little bit more comparable, but like MLS is just so physical. It's like so physically demanding. You run so much more than a lot of leagues. ah It's hard to like, To me, he looks compared for the physicality and he looks like a like he's going to have to get fit because he's been out for a while. but just ah you know He's young, too. He's 28, right? 28 is like your prime in soccer. but they i mean Obviously, YouTube highlights are one thing, so we'll have to see if it actually pans out.
00:28:18
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But from what I saw on the YouTube highlights, it did not look like this is a player where like cardio fitness was a question at all. right like He looked like a runner to me. yeah like he's gonna you know those could just be the highlights but I think that it seems like once he gets up to speed the fitness theoretically shouldn't be an issue knock on wood yeah um so we'll see how he plays on turf too I think that's another another addition He hasn't played on turf in his career from what I can understand. would be funny if he was one of those guys that just refuses play on turf. He's like, I'm just here for the paycheck. They can only play him in the road game. How funny would it be if they lied to him? They're like, yeah, you can have your alligators here and we play on grass, dude.
00:29:08
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It's great. What did you think of Tom Bogue saying that he was kind of surprised that other MLS clubs? Well, of course he was surprised because he didn't get the scoop. Tom, I'm calling you out right here. Nico got you beat, bro. What's up with that? i know that hurt your ego a little bit. ah We always root for for Nico. We do. Tom, but but i did see yeah I saw what he said. It's a good competition between the two of them.
00:29:31
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I saw what he said and I was interested because and it is surprising that he wasn't on the radar for any other and MLS teams. like baby Maybe this is a Craig Weibel masterclass or is it like there's something else that we don't know?
00:29:45
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i mean, maybe it's just simply like no one had the roster space for him. Like, I don't really understand, you know? And, and I, I was, I was thinking about this more. um Cause you know, you can only have a certain number of international players and whatnot.
00:30:00
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This, this right here is one of the reasons why they didn't resign Nico Ladero. To keep this spot open. And I know we talked about it extensively. Seldom seen good point from Noah.
00:30:11
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yeah Seldom seen good point from Noah that i hadn't thought about. I've been thinking about this for a while. And you know I think that as we talked about the the Nico transition, this was really truly, I think, why they were like, I don't think so. We want the flexibility in case we need to make an in-season addition.
00:30:28
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We're not like tied to... Yeah. yeah so and like i think... ah you know Not with Ryan Kent specifically, but you're but Craig Wives, part of the way he was probably thinking of it, it's like, you know do I want Nico at the vet minimum? or And now he's like, do I want the to throw a dart at Ryan Kent?
00:30:50
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I think it's pretty pretty clear like what the decision would be in that situation. Yeah. I mean, and listen, at the end of the day, are you going to go with the the legend who has a statue or the crocodile guy?
00:31:03
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Like I'm going with the crocodile guy. That's content, dude. You know, this is a content first podcast. week We kind of got blessed with them signing the crocodile. Yes, bro. like I'm telling you, Sanders PR right now, check your email because you're getting a request from me to go to the zoo with this guy.
00:31:18
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Like we're doing that video. I don't care what they say. I'm i'm making it. It's hard getting used to say crocodile and not alligator. Yeah. Crocodile guy. ah Bad Sequel says, does he look like he'd be able to fit Schmetzer's defensive responsibilities for wingers?
00:31:31
Speaker
So that that's like one of the things about it that's TBD. Because Schmetz, if you're a total bum on defense and don't press and don't defend at all, Schmetz isn't going to play you. yeah He's not. so Get ready to learn Schmetzer ball. But like I like i said, like from what I...
00:31:50
Speaker
from what i can gleam from the minimal research that I've done, it doesn't, it really does not seem like work rate, effort or fitness are issues with this guy. It seems like the issues are more like attitude, it not really, you know, he like clearly when you punch a guy on the field, like you lost your head a little bit. Yeah. So I think that's more where the potential downsides come from more than like him,
00:32:18
Speaker
not Not running or not working hard on defense. I mean, we already got one of the the crash out guys. So like two of them, why not? I don't care. I'm cool with this new wrinkle. The crash out moment kind of hard. If nothing else, it'll add like entertainment value. I don't care. mean, as long as it's against the Timbers.
00:32:34
Speaker
Like as long as he punches the Timbers guy, that's cool with me. Someone in chat said that he was going to punch someone... oh look there we go chat knows yeah like he's gonna be a good character for that darby because like you like the punch the punch was uh like ranger sell the celtic ranger darby is one of the craziest darby which like that is honestly the worst part about him he's a part of the fascist team like he was ah he was a rangers fans so are a rangers player so like that's like his biggest downside yeah but he has to you know he's he's coming to the woke city 98 speed
Ryan Kent's Career and MLS Fit
00:33:05
Speaker
in FIFA 20. Yeah, he was a electricric yeah he was like ah ah like a very famous card in FIFA.
00:33:11
Speaker
Okay. So like I don't think that's our first famous player, famous FIFA card player, but it's ah it's definitely a thumbs up for him for his pedigree. A lot of people talking about the fit with Rusnak. Rusnak can stop playing winger now and go back to the 10th. Thank God. Yeah.
00:33:30
Speaker
Yeah. Exactly. ah Jeremiah said he has offers significant upside. so I mean, undoubtedly. yeah If you look at the way that this guy plays, he's he's really talented.
00:33:42
Speaker
i think this is a... people hate like For one, we literally talked about this two podcasts ago about, is it time to count out Jesus Ferreira? Which some people got mad at our clickbait.
00:33:54
Speaker
um I'm sorry. We literally addressed that question. So whatever. But you have Jesus Ferreira who you're still integrating. You're figuring out what he's got. That was a great upside play.
00:34:06
Speaker
Once he gets integrated and plays amazing, you've got him, you've got Ryan Kent, you've got... Paul Areola was looking awesome too until he exploded his... but there's There's always one. you know There's always one.
00:34:18
Speaker
um But you know if you are going to moneyball, which it seems like the Sounders, that's kind of their their vibe right now, which whatever, they've been moneyballing well.
00:34:30
Speaker
is that is that well that Is that crazy to say? hey ah they I think they moneyball well in general. and ah you know People use moneyball in a derogatory yeah term. and i think you know I get why because Seattle's transfer spending is not... Schmetz even said it said it in the video. He's like, we're not going to Atlanta it.
00:34:48
Speaker
yeah that's what i'm saying That's what he took from you, dude. Because that's our talking point. We say, if you want to if you want to go watch a bunch of high-spending transfers, go watch Atlanta. Schmetz, come on. Moneyballing, all the best teams in the league are good at moneyballing.
00:35:03
Speaker
like yeah In a salary cap league, you have to be good at that. It's just that you have to combine it with spending, which to be fair, the Sounders have done over the years, but not as much like in the last couple years, which is where all this dude wait is consternation comes from. flinging poop in the comments here saying Jesus Ferreira is trash.
00:35:25
Speaker
What are you talking about, man? What are you talking about? I mean, he's not looked great so far, but I think it is. tra it like It's early. It's early to call him. track du He looked like a God in, in those champions league matches.
00:35:40
Speaker
he looked he looked i thought he looked good in the champions league matches and like i think we were all hoping he would adapt quicker than he has but the reality is we're gonna need to give him more time to see if he can fit on this team yeah one way or the other i still think that i've watched a lot of him in his career lot of jesus ferrera i know he's a good player that's what i'm like already know it i've like he has been over the course of many many years so Yeah, well, that's that's not what I'm saying. It's not necessarily that I'm saying he's been playing well in the last few matches.
00:36:13
Speaker
I literally noted on the podcast, I said, he has zero shots. You can't do that. But also what I noted is, if you look at his transition at the nine in just two games, he's already looked like night and day in two matches.
00:36:27
Speaker
Now, the next step is actually like taking chances, getting the ball. Schmetzer even talked about this. He said he's a very unselfish player, and he needs to get more selfish when he's playing the nine. So... i don't know matt sexton coming in with a two dollar super chat thank you very much appreciate the support draft some historical ders with personality issues does aussie count uh i don't know if like personality issues is how i would describe that uh but like ah aussie wasn't afraid to take a hard yeah i mean you can't to have this discussion without bringing up dempsey
00:37:01
Speaker
Yeah, that's true. You got the all-time like red card wedding notebook ripper-upper. yeah Honestly, that is sort of what some of this what some of this Kent stuff reminded me of.
00:37:16
Speaker
dempsey was on it like Dempsey towed that line on the field A lot where he would like just get so angry. Yeah. To the point where he would lose his, he would lose his head. Sometimes he Dempsey more than any Sounders player ever would just be on the ref every minute of every game chirping the entire time. To the point where there was a lot of times where i was like, Clint, like lock in.
00:37:40
Speaker
Lock in. so But like a little bit of that is not a bad thing. It's really not. And I think this team in particular could use that. And I would say if there's one thing that I'm most intrigued about with this potential seemingly imminent acquisition, Noah, it's that... it's that side of it like even more than what he could bring as a player the skill set i think makes sense like for what they need i think it makes perfect sense but the uh just like the personality and how hard he plays the game i think that stuff could it has the potential to be beneficial we'll have to see but i think it's got the uh it's got the potential to be beneficial
00:38:17
Speaker
There's plenty of people who are like not on the field angry. like I would say Nuhu is a drama. Nuhu likes to start shit. um you know He had the fallout too with Coach last season.
00:38:29
Speaker
Raul, towards the end of his career here, was crashing out ah um with the coaching staff. But I don't know if that counts. i don't know if that's attitude issues, quote-unquote, is on the field. Honestly, since they moved off Aussie,
00:38:45
Speaker
it's been a lot of nice guys, which is fine. That's fine. Like they're all good, wholesome, happy family men that like, if you met him off the field, you'd be like, what a great guy, but you need a couple on every team. You need a couple just dogs.
00:39:02
Speaker
You need a couple of guys that aren't afraid to mix it up, talk trash, play with energy and personality. You know, I think honestly, uh, uh,
00:39:13
Speaker
Ferreira has some of that, but it manifested, I think in the St. Louis game, that manifested in a way that was detrimental. Yeah, it was a little silly. It's a fine line. I think Ferreira was towing the wrong side of it in St. Louis.
00:39:27
Speaker
And clearly, there's been at least one instance in Ryan Kent's career. i mean, if you haven't seen the punch... it Yeah, but if Ferreira had punched the guy like and like done a whole crash out like that...
00:39:40
Speaker
At least it would have been like a clip, you know, like what he did in St. Louis was just like annoying. he He jabbed a guy. Yeah, but it's like, just just do the whole thing. If you're going to do it, just do it, bro.
00:39:50
Speaker
Like, I'm sorry. Just do it. And then Schmetzer's like, well, it's because he was passionate about the game. Brian, come on. Come on, Brian. and couple of people are saying Magnus, we're getting Magnus Wolf Icrum name drops. Yeah, there's another one in there that I feel like we legally can't even mention.
00:40:07
Speaker
you guys read between the lines for that one. Ariola felt like he was going to be a dog, then the knee. Yeah, like he... Ariel is a nice guy, dude, though. He's not a like... he's Off the field he is, but on the field he's got a little bit of juice him. He's not really what we're talking about. He's the dude you see at church next to you on Sunday. You know what I'm saying? like He's got his this cute little kid and his wife. night Which is a good thing. It's a good thing to be a nice guy. We're not hating on nice guys, but... yeah maybe Maybe Ryan Kent will ah just add a little jolt. Yeah, a little British gruffness. A little British gruffness. ah
00:40:44
Speaker
Noah, anything else you wanted to get with Ryan Kent? or her ah I'm taking him to the aquarium. do they Okay, do they have crocodiles at the aquarium? or No, no, they no.
00:40:56
Speaker
Aquarium's like fish. but like Is it a fish? Is it a mammal? Is it a reptile? I don't know. I didn't finish college. I think i think it would be ah ah it would be at the Woodland Park Zoo. okay yeah yeah anyone wait does anyone have like ah Is there a private zoo around here? We should go to one of those like problematic private zoos where you can like pay to like hold them or whatever.
00:41:17
Speaker
I would not do that. yeah I wonder if he holds and pets the crocodile. Wait, can you look up if the Woodland Park Zoo has crocodiles? Yeah. Because this is actually important information that we should like like look up
00:41:33
Speaker
oh Oh, did they die? oh they retired. They retired their crocodiles. they were The crocodiles at Woodland Park Zoo unfortunately retired. How does a crocodile retire? I think i think it might die, Ari. I don't know. that What I just saw was that they had crocodiles that pulled up on Woodland Park Zoo in 1973. They live a long time. oh I think the fact that Ryan Kent has us all learning about crocodiles, is that's that's already honestly that's already a positive for his presence on the team. They better get him in like a safari outfit for his like announcement video. you know what i'm saying They have to maximize the crocodile content.
00:42:13
Speaker
content I feel like that's like so emasculating, though. You're like, I haven't played soccer in six months because I got in a feud with my head coach, and now they're making me put on a fucking crocodile Dundee outfit. But you know what?
00:42:25
Speaker
Content comes first, folks. Max, we were name-dropping players with attitude problems. Yeah. So if you have anyone to submit for that...
00:42:36
Speaker
Ozzie, Clint both came up. Wolf Ickram came up. The Wolf was an example of ah guy who just didn't jive with Schmetz's like how he expects you to play at that type of position. The Wolf did not...
00:42:55
Speaker
really care about defending no he was he dropped some nice dimes and he scored a nice goal in champions league if i remember correctly that he scored in that santa tecla series we were oh yeah dude that was a good and i was like this guy seems kind of nice like this could have been a good pickup and then he just didn't defend ever and schmetz was like i i'm never gonna play this guy and they let him go but have you followed his career since he went back to uh sweden Yeah, he he was really good.
00:43:24
Speaker
Like he became like a club legend for mold or whatever that club is called. So he's a captain and like scored a bunch of goals for them. But ah that's ah like if Ryan Kent comes in and is like a repeat of that, that's going to be a situation where he's not going to end up playing.
00:43:43
Speaker
Yeah. So Matthew Sexton saying low side of Ryan can is saying something more offensive than Ariaga. Well, he was a he was a ah ah Rangers player. So, you know, you never know.
00:43:56
Speaker
Just kidding. We got to steer clear of ah of the controversies. Wingo transferred to Molde. Oh, man, that's it. They are like a we are a feeder club for them. Unfortunately, like our crash outs go there.
00:44:08
Speaker
Wingo actually had a respectable European career. He was playing in Hungary for a while. Played in UEFA Champions League, I want to say, at least a couple times. So is this guy. This guy played in Champions League like within the last year.
00:44:21
Speaker
Yeah. That's crazy. For free? The more I look up, the more...
00:44:28
Speaker
The more I ah look him up, the more i kind of realize that his pedigree and profile just globally, like it's like kind of big news in the ah global soccer media sphere that this that this guy is moving to and MLS.
Club World Cup Financial Implications and Sounders' Participation
00:44:43
Speaker
So take that for what it's worth.
00:44:44
Speaker
It could be worth nothing, but it's definitely like when we learned about this in real time, live on stream, I was like, this seems like kind of a rando. It's not that it's really not like that much of a rando. it is crazy.
00:44:55
Speaker
a guy it's a it's a good guy it's a guy who can be good it's a guy who has been good at junctures different junctures in his career but uh i do think the fitness thing is real like he's not going to be playing for at least a few weeks like no matter how hard you're training on your own which i'm sure he's been doing for the last few months you can't really replicate you gotta learn the system fitness learn this assist everything yeah victor manserey oh dude that's a throwback yeah that is a good name drop vic manserey he was uh the original like wasn't he was vic manserey at homegrown i think he was i think he had the like the like obed tag right because i was he he wasn't from seattle i feel like i feel like they like got him imported him and then he was a homegrown okay maybe i'm wrong
00:45:49
Speaker
What does his injury record look like? I'm sure he blew out both of his hamstrings, but every have you seen a soccer player who hasn't had a hamstring injury? I'm just going to guess. I literally haven't seen it.
00:46:01
Speaker
But like I think that's like the thing. Who would win a fist fishy? Ryan, since he also had a guy that got in a fight and that player that got called up to USMNT.
00:46:13
Speaker
What player is that? I don't know. Sorry, I'm not sure. I don't know what that means. But I do like your profile picture. that a salmon in there? Better than Gio Reyna. Definitely plays more soccer than Reyna.
00:46:28
Speaker
People got mad at me from my USMNT. Oh, here we go. Someone who's followed him. It's weird. As a lead supporter, Ryan Kent was the never-ending transformer every window for the last five years. Now he's here. Weird. But he may be the grizzled bastard we need.
00:46:41
Speaker
that's good ah That's good intel. like that's sort of the That's sort of what i was getting at. The vibe I get is that... He has pedigree, man. He has like more pedigree than I thought when I first...
00:46:53
Speaker
learned about it and uh i think you know i kind of picked up on that right away when i was looking him up on youtube and there was videos all over the place not just of the punch but like of his highlights i was like okay yeah he had a wikipedia page with like sections you know like he wasn't just like no photo whatever he had like history you know controversies he had all that's good uh it's a good sign that's a good gauge for it Max is still coming at us with some good ah attitude name drops.
00:47:22
Speaker
Sammy Ochoa. za Those are like deep cuts, man. that is a Vic Mansour might be the deepest cut that we've had on Lobbing Scorchers yet. Vic, come on the pod.
00:47:34
Speaker
All right. ah I think that's about going for the Ryan Kent section. yeah yeah We should be hearing about this imminently in the next but few days. yeah He is in...
00:47:46
Speaker
Seattle. He at the facility. He's literally here. Per Brian Schmetzer. He's literally here. So I would be pretty surprised if he was here. and then He's probably doing a physical. I'm not going sign. you know so it's It's not unheard of, but i would I would trust Nico if it's basically done.
00:48:04
Speaker
Unless something catastrophic happens. I actually made it through this entire segment without a Ted Lasso reference. but Well, you better end it off with one. That's going to that's going to be a thing. Unfortunately, when your name is Ryan Kent and there was a character in Ted Lasso named Roy Kent, that's going to follow you for the rest of your career.
00:48:22
Speaker
yeah Maybe that's why he's gotten angry. He's like sick of hearing that. like Every time I bring him up, people will start doing the, ah he's here, he's there. yeah you know i'm on the Just on the topic of signings before we move on, it is fun to get a random out of nowhere signing of a guy who's like actually pretty quality. you know and then that's it's sort of It's sort of what people have been asking for. yeah Yeah, no, it's exactly what people have been asking for. They wanted a European. yeah They wanted a guy who wasn't from MLS, some sort of pedigree, and like some sort of like intrigue. they they like this is This is the classic like um Instagram aggregator account bait. It's honestly genius because they can't say anything bad about him.
00:49:11
Speaker
It's a money ball move, so it's good for the Sounders. but also I mean, they can say that it's money balling, but like... But like they're like, oh, it's but it's good money balling because he's not... You know, you can not in them you can also only pick from who's available, right? Like, yeah he does he happened to be available, but, you know, Seattle stepped up and became the club that really made the play for him and looks like they're going to get him. So, yeah oh yeah. I mean, I think it's a good point. it's It is kind of like the exact type of signing that...
00:49:39
Speaker
people have been asking for so let's hope it uh let's hope it works out bad sequels thank you so much for the five dollar super check drop the link bad sequels did you see mls release best 11 so far rusnak made the list watch out brigade they definitely uh they definitely did that for our discourse they did yeah but like he is there a link for it uh i i haven't seen like the best 11 to date so far bad sequels link it yeah link it we want to see that i want to see who else made it yeah uh that mean that that should that you know whoever made that whoever put that together clearly uh clearly knows balls knows balls clearly they know balls man knows ruse next he's got two of them three of them sometimes even ah leo chu was my favorite crash mls listens to the podcast guys literally this is mls right here okay
00:50:32
Speaker
Disc golfer welcome in thanks for tuning in as always man so stoked about ryan kent like just seeing the club make a move here and try to get something down already feels better than last year yeah i think that's kind of what we were just talking about like it's nice that uh i think it's good that the art the areola thing happened and they weren't just like oh well uh We'll let it rip.
00:50:52
Speaker
yeah we're we're gonna we're We're actually going to be proactive. We're going ambitious. We're going ambitious and we're going to sign this guy from the Scottish Premiership.
00:51:03
Speaker
we're gonna be ambitious folks you gotta are you well i guess you gotta change the ambition ratings now are you i do i have to i should probably go back no that's a good point this is this is uh like a big ups their score by a boost yeah for the they're not ambitious crowd like this is gonna skyrocket it because like you said uh he's english 28 yep just the ambitions like kind of through the roof low key Yeah, and do you think they're done?
00:51:31
Speaker
I feel like they're not done. I feel like they could add another player. Well, this is not even to speak of the U22 spot. That's what I'm saying. And someone asked earlier if theyve we thought that Obed would just take that and we try and keep him.
00:51:45
Speaker
That's a good question. That's a good question. you know um i don't I don't think so. I don't think so because i think i think, I mean, it's isn't it pretty clear that Obed his ambition is to, it's not to like be a MLS U22. Got to do right by the player for sure. Yeah. Like he wants to test himself.
00:52:05
Speaker
Yeah. You got to hit this one. I need to address this one. Which one? The Jake one. Jake. This one? Yeah. Adrian got promised 9.5 million and starts buying players. Oh, he's a free. He's on a free.
00:52:19
Speaker
Yeah. He's on a free. He's a free agent. He didn't even spend any money. So you're wrong. You're wrong. Yes, he's broke. Yes, Adrian is broke.
00:52:30
Speaker
But also, ah Adrian, buy the podcast. Anyway, yeah we'll talk nice about you. they win a match in the Club World Cup, they will come home with two years worth of MLS salary cap. That is how minuscule the cap is. That is a interesting way to think about it. Dude, they get $1 million dollars per tie. its you get too Did you see that article?
00:52:50
Speaker
I didn't like... ah Do you want pontificate? I know you have a a whole list of things, so won't jump on you. but like It's on Sounder at Heart. ah Right now, they broke down how what... Alright, let's take a look at this.
00:53:03
Speaker
the um The cap is about... It's there on the left. Oh, I see it. We're going to pull this up right now. Sounder at Heart. great ah Great website. You should all subscribe to it. Sounder at Heart.com. You can scroll down to subscribe and support. Get one month free. Now, let me tell you folks something. Okay?
00:53:20
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00:53:34
Speaker
And then you literally got unlimited. So, boom. Done. And access to the Discord. Good shilling right there. That was good. Let's take a look at this real quick. First, we got a $6.66 super chat from Juan Targas. Thank you, Juan. Appreciate you. My favorite Sounders pod. Keep up the great work, guys.
00:53:52
Speaker
We love you, Juan. Thank you, bro. we're We're ready for the LAFC derby. We're ready. i hope i hope I hope that one day we can go down for an LAFC derby because we have a lot of LAFC fans.
00:54:05
Speaker
I literally... Am I invited to the cookout? Because like I want to come to the Asada, man. i think like i want to come to the assad I think we have good rapport with the contingent Oh, there you You're good. You're good. We'll just just. All right.
00:54:19
Speaker
All right. ah FIFA finally announces Club World Cup prize pool. So what was you? Have you done the deep dive on this? No, did you have any? I just read the article takeaways. All right. I mean, I just think it was it was very up in the air. And it seems like they nobody knew until literally like right now. Let's look at this. Sounders received $9.5 million guaranteed.
00:54:42
Speaker
That's a lot of money. That's some coin. That's a lot of money. that ah That Champions League win was was hot. they got That's basically like an extra $10 million from that from that Champions League win just out of nowhere. just Yeah, just for showing up. $1 million dollars per group stage tie. So they can get one Wow.
00:55:03
Speaker
That's one milli, bro. So that would bring it up to 10.5. So if they if they just tie one game, yeah two million per group stage win. So basically basically, if they win any game in the group stage, it's got way bigger implications than just like the novelty of them beating one of these teams.
00:55:22
Speaker
They're getting a lot of coin for winning any of these games. so You know, okay, new New Movement says something here. The prize money distributed effectively confirms that big hero teams will play.
00:55:34
Speaker
But I don't agree. i don't agree, man. a hundred I mean, 100 milli is a drop in the bucket. like if you these These teams don't give a shit, okay? They don't care about... They don't care They want to win Champions League They want to win Their things The year the Sounders were in it Real Madrid was not emptying the tank But they had their dudes out there I'm pretty sure I don't know if it'll be their strongest of strongest lineups 100 mil is like half season sure They're going to be playing. They're going to be playing their guys. Like there's, I don't see any scenario where Seattle goes into these games and it's like some scrub lineup of their Academy kids and backups. Like yeah they might be rotated to an extent, but like all these clubs rotated are still going to be insane. First of all. And second of all, like I think, I i think they intentionally make the prize money pretty high and pretty lucrative for that exact reason. So like, so clubs are incentivized.
00:56:33
Speaker
to actually showcase their best players. Well, I hope not. I hope they're like, this is poverty wages. Last year, UCL winner got 25 mil. Okay. Well, Champions League's poverty c cold, apparently. Let's see.
00:56:47
Speaker
The rest of this is there's still stuff that I need. Yeah, sorry. I totally cut off. 13.125 million for making the quarterfinals. Dude, if they can advance somehow out of this group, 7.5 million. they They get a straight Pedro de la Vega buy-off with that.
00:57:01
Speaker
21 million for making the semifinals 30 million for making the finals 40 million for winning the final so basically what i'm seeing here is that they just got to win the club world cup yeah and then the team that's easy and the team's going to be set for absolute dude we're going to get the sickest stadium at long acres if they win club world cup total prize pool has been set at 1 billion dollars with different amounts guaranteed the clubs based on which federation they're from The Sounders is one of five participants from CONCACAF guaranteed 9.5 just for playing in the group stage.
00:57:33
Speaker
Honestly, that's sick right there. that's that is Assuming that these funds are allocated wisely, this could actually be like a meaningful... could meaningfully help the team get better. That's that is enough money where it could meaningfully help the team get better. Assuming that you actually use it well, which is never a guarantee. Yeah. And Brian, mean, Brian talked about how he wants his players to get some of that money too.
00:58:00
Speaker
just go straight to the Just go straight to the guys. Which, like, you know, yeah, go why not? They earned it. We basically have the same roster now as we had when they won Champions League, so might as well give them some more money. i'm I'm cool with that as long as... I feel like they got to use some of it.
00:58:18
Speaker
most of it on the roster. That's what I would selfishly hope. don't even think it's selfishly though. I think it's just like, that's part of the reason that you, uh, like you want to win these tournaments, you know, for the bragging rights and for the trophy case, but there's, this is stuff that, uh, that benefits you for Adrian Howard. Well, Adrian Hanauer is going to use it as stock buyback. So you can buy out a Macklemore and, um,
00:58:44
Speaker
ah Who's the other celebrity owners? Russell? Russ, yeah. He's going to buy out Russ and Sierra. yeah i think i think Russ is still an owner, isn't he Yeah. Apparently. i don't know.
00:58:55
Speaker
It's kind of weird. I remember it was so hype when he joined and then hasn't been as hype the last few years. Russ, come on the pod, bro. What are you doing? that would We know you're a huge Sounders fan.
00:59:06
Speaker
he he did used to tweet about it remember that he did he was he was locked in when he was here i wonder if he i wonder if he just forgot like how funny would it be to just you know he makes so much fucking money it's just like oh yeah sorry i forgot about my like 10 million dollar investment my bad bro my bad i'm pretty sure he they're gonna they're gonna use this to buy the seahawks they're gonna use the prize money to buy the seahawks here's max's idea for how to use the money 4.5 to the players, 4.5 to the roster, five hundred and fifty k to Soundert Hearts photographer. yeah I like that that's a fair allocation allocation. Can we get a cut in there? I was going to say ah the five if we could get like just a little cut of the 550, then I'll be all for that allocation. well the The players don't need 4.5. They only need 4.
00:59:52
Speaker
you know like They're already on a high salary. We'll take the 5. Yeah. The Loving Storcher's Mansion will be an actual mansion.
01:00:02
Speaker
I got to say, just looking at that for the first time, this tournament matters in that sense. Performing well and getting good results benefits you financially greatly, which I knew, but that kind of just spells it out. but we didn't know it was going to be that billion dollars is a lot of money. I was just trying to cope. Okay, guys, it is a lot of money. It's a lot of money. And I think whoever said it in chat is right.
01:00:34
Speaker
i don't know i don't I'll be interested to see you like what type of lineups like PSG and Atletico put out there. But my expectation would be that they're going to some good lineups. some good line Yeah.
01:00:46
Speaker
I think this is interesting to talk about too. because Because did you see Leon is no longer in the Club World Cup? They were kicked out because... Oh, did that actually happen? Yeah, so it it was official.
01:00:57
Speaker
um They're still figuring out who's going to replace them, but it might potentially be... um get another ml it's yeah that was like it was potentially going to be the likes the like uh i can't remember just look it up there's someone wrote about it i'm sure chat what would be the funniest mls club to replace yeah i think they literally were talking about like the philly union being because they're like number they're like really high on the rankings oh yeah aluense aluense was the one that might uh possibly replace them and then um
01:01:30
Speaker
I don't know. It would be funny, dude. like they got to throw like The Galaxy playing in it right now would be really funny. yeah like just Just because... I'm thinking i'm thinking like more random.
01:01:41
Speaker
like What about... ah Sporting. Sporting KC. Put in like one of the worst MLS. There's this whole bit going on MLS social spaces that they're going to give it to the Revs.
01:01:54
Speaker
like I don't really know where it started, so if anyone can fill me in with that bit, but i I'm actually very much pro that. like i would like to see That's what I'm saying, like a novelty scene just for the content.
01:02:05
Speaker
yeah It should go to Club America, though, if we're being real here. Well, shouldn't it be like based on something? like i don't like like ah Seattle, the reason they got in was for Champions League. Inter-Miami, they got in Mickey Mouse. but' Theirs doesn't count. It was ostensibly because they got hosting. the shield so like you have to Even if it's like a bogus reason, you have to come up with a reason. That's what they did. They could they could go with they could go with like Cup.
01:02:32
Speaker
yeah like any cup like mls cup the revs the revs never won one of those no i know but i'm saying like then you put the galaxy in there oh yeah yeah exactly i think they do they do who who won champions league last year
01:02:49
Speaker
ccc yeah oh man i can't remember how Maybe it was that was Leon. That was I think who they kicked out. Whatever. I don't remember. Based on second place, it's for LAFC. But you didn't win. Like it's not.
01:03:00
Speaker
Why would it be LAFC? They didn't win anything last year. They literally lost to the Sounders. Oh, are you talking about Shield Race? Oh, they're thinking like second in the Shield Second in the Shield Race. I think they should give it to Willie Gomecki's team. It's probably to... I think it might be LAFC.
01:03:15
Speaker
Like, this is is this is sounding like it's lining up for it to be LAFC. Crew would be the funniest. I just want the crew to be snubbed again. Because remember they had that whole six-month whining fit that they're like, I can't believe you would pick Inter-Miami to be in there. Because they thought they were going to win. They were going win Cup and then they bombed out and then they got really quiet, bro.
01:03:37
Speaker
no leon b it was a lot there i mean yeah there's a lot of uh the crew the crew ah fans were unhappy with a lot last year they got poisoned in champions league and then there was
Seattle Sounders Strategy and Upcoming Matches
01:03:47
Speaker
that whole situation yeah so yeah i feel like i feel like what's gonna happen because i think aluense is actually the a good a good shout for it um just for fun it's just like a random ass team that has like no chance I'll tell you what, with ah with that much coin on the line, I'm going to be, I think, more locked in on these games than I would have been previously. i still i don't you know
01:04:11
Speaker
If anything, I would say I feel worse about Seattle's prospects because, again, with that much money on the line, i think these teams are going to be deploying pretty strong lineups.
01:04:24
Speaker
New who's going to pocket. it's fine. Exactly. On the flip side that, on the flip side of that I think I'm more curious curious to watch them play one of those teams at stronger like in it with a stronger lineup. then i would If it was like their backups and academy kids and then they played well, everyone would be like, it doesn't count. because Yeah, I agree. It was their backups and their academy kids.
01:04:49
Speaker
So now like now with the lineups that I feel like are for sure going to be out there, if Seattle does play well, it's going to count. It's going to count. They will count. It's all going to count. like I don't want to hear that it doesn't count.
01:04:59
Speaker
yeah ah but That's what I've been saying. If Alvaro Snack scoring against PSG would feed me forever because I'm just responding with you to that clip. There's going to be some reason that it doesn't count if they play well or get a result, but like it makes it makes that talking point harder to... I think they should give the winner of the Open Cup the spot.
01:05:20
Speaker
Yeah. Why not? Hell yeah. That would be LAFC. Oh, that's probably what they're going to end up. That's probably would be really funny. It would be funny if they did Galaxy, though, because I just this version of the Galaxy trying to play in Club World Cup would be hilarious for all involved.
01:05:38
Speaker
And they would get bailed out for all their financial problems. Here's what it Off season for PSG and that it goes. So any result doesn't count. Damn it. That's true. Damn it. That's that's true. But the money will be real.
01:05:50
Speaker
think about that well but it's okay because atletico is going to sell their best player to lafc here soon yeah and that's gonna be not good that's gonna be good for the sounders okay yeah put des moines mena i think okay this is my official prediction they're gonna find some way to give it to lafc probably probably Well, I don't know.
01:06:10
Speaker
I think they're... Okay, let's take... Should we should we do like a ah like ah a one... Like a bet on it? Like someone has to like shotgun a ah white cloth either of us gets it right or something like that?
01:06:22
Speaker
Sure. Okay, I will buy a Danny Musavsky jersey and wear it on camera if and shotgun a white cloth if they give it to LAFC. Okay.
01:06:33
Speaker
I mean, i can i can I can rock with that. Yeah. And then who would be your... I guess I have to pick one. I predicted LAFC. Yeah, but so I was taking that. So I guess I have to predict one. um
01:06:45
Speaker
I don't know, man. Like, i I just... Can you pull up the CONCACAF rankings? Sure. Yeah. Because I know they have, like, CONCACAF club rankings. Yeah.
01:06:59
Speaker
Because, I mean, this is a little bit of a cheater cheater mentality. It's the club one on the left there, yeah. All right, I'm going to share this.
01:07:09
Speaker
Oh, it's going to be... It's totally going to be LAFC. God damn it. It's totally going to be LAFC. Look at this. Look at this. Number two. Number two.
01:07:20
Speaker
ah number three. Because Cruz Azul and Club America... Is Club America in it? don't think America is... Okay, if Club America is... It's going Club America. That's my take. Club America. Club America is not in it.
01:07:32
Speaker
Cruz Azul and then LAFC. Yeah. Interesting. This is all... This is like their entire... Like every club is in here? Yeah, that's all of them. What is the formula?
01:07:44
Speaker
but Vibes. vibes they Look, the fucking caps are up the caps are Orlando City, bro. Where is Seattle, 17? dropped one ah we dropped the one. But we're tied with the Red Bulls. What's the tiebreaker?
01:07:59
Speaker
Wow. This is tough to see. Well, we did lose to below the New York Red Bulls below Orlando, below the galaxy, which is awesome. Whitecaps, man. Conca cap does not, does not like the Seattle. No, they don't.
01:08:14
Speaker
Wow. Tough rankings. I was going to talk about the power rankings, which were equally unkind to the Seattle sounders this week. That's a good transition. Ari. Yeah. Uh, well, I mean, I wasn't going to say much, uh,
01:08:26
Speaker
other about the power rankings. Other than that, like what Seattle is tumbling by the week, but ah yeah, that is, w um that is a good segue for, yeah. Like I don't even, i'm not disputing it really with how things are going right now, but I think that is a good segue into talking about this upcoming game for the Seattle Sounders. The league season is still going at the moment, unfortunately, and they have to go to San Jose and play this earthquakes team where no, I would say the vibes are at a not, not,
01:08:56
Speaker
good point and i think the first thing I wanted to talk about was just like I think the fan reaction from that Houston draw was like as negative as I've seen in quite some time and it honestly it wasn't it was not limited to brigade it was not limited to like the normal crowd the own spot goes off Matt Doyle's power rankings let's just yeah let's let Doyle pick it that'd be funny um The negativity was not, it was it was widespread is what I'm saying. Like it wasn't just a vocal minority. yeah where And I think it was, like theyre i think the reasoning for that was ah kind of like PTSD, man.
01:09:39
Speaker
I think that's sort of what we've been talking about all week is that kind of air of ah PTSD, but like the negativity of the vibes right now after that draw against Houston puts more pressure, I would say, on this San Jose game than there otherwise would be for a game against the Quakes in March. Yeah.
01:09:59
Speaker
Like they can't get shut out in this game. That's they that's my number one please score. One ah one goal. Yep. One goal and maybe two goals. that's maybe three. That's he maybe even three. If you're feeling, if you want to have fun score. And the thing is like, like, you know, obviously the injuries are bad and it's going to make scoring goals harder. That is just a fact of life.
01:10:24
Speaker
However, however, Everyone who is saying that ah that wasn't an excuse to get shut out by the Houston Dynamo at home, I would say that is correct.
01:10:34
Speaker
And it doesn't justify getting shut out by the San Jose Earthquakes in in this game. I really like to me, ah it's almost more important. There we go.
01:10:46
Speaker
than the result that they bang in a couple goals in this game. If they, ah if they won zero this, but it looks the exact same, I'll be happy about that. Don't get me wrong. Like I'll be able to cope and say, all right, like injury situation is tough right now. You're at a grinded out part of the season. Good on you for getting the three points and scoring a goal.
01:11:07
Speaker
But, uh, It just feels like if they get shut out in this game, we're teetering on ah at least discourse-wise it going off the rails. I don't think you can ever have the season go off the rails this early in the season.
01:11:22
Speaker
It's not a good start, though. It's just it would be officially like this game is the crossroads of if they can change the narrative from this being bad start to the season into, to salvaging like the start of the season a little bit.
01:11:39
Speaker
They go out there and say they pull a two zero or a three one or something like that. I think it would do a, ah I think it would go a long way. I'm happy with a draw and then helping the VICE scoring draw.
01:11:50
Speaker
Talk about that. Scoring draw would be great. Give me a Jesus Ferreira goal. Give me Jesus Ferreira assist. Give me something. You know what I mean? yeah get a Paul Rothrock banger in there.
01:12:01
Speaker
Give me something to believe in again with this attack. I think that's really all I'm looking for. Like, i don't... It's an away game. It's always an a away game. But I would love to beat the San Jose Earthquakes, man, especially after the last last season. They got the best of us in the most annoying-ass way possible. And they had one of the worst seasons in MLS history. We literally gave them half of their points total.
01:12:23
Speaker
They had one of the worst seasons in MLS history and Seattle didn't beat them in either game. no They lost the first one and tied the second. They gave them half of their points total. like like That's like totally a legit fact. Which turned out to be... I consider it a bit because they ended up winning 16 games and going to a the the West Final.
01:12:44
Speaker
So I was not as tilted about the whole Quakes thing as I otherwise would have been because I thought the season ended alright. But like... that was tilting to say the least. That was so the first quakes game was the game where Moose scored, right?
01:13:00
Speaker
Yeah, I think so. And it was two. Didn't that, that ended three, two, they tied it. They tied that two, two and almost had the draw. And then J Bo, uh, Bobasi got the game winner.
01:13:11
Speaker
i wast worry about him That was one of the most tilting games of the entire season. That was at Lumen, right? No, no. That was the one in San Jose. and then Did we draw the one at Lumen? then they drew the one. That's right. And that was the one that felt like a loss because we just like gave up that game.
01:13:25
Speaker
Yes. Yeah, I do remember both those. And the San Jose Earthquakes, realistically... have been like a There was a time where I would consider them like a legitimate bogey team.
01:13:38
Speaker
Like Seattle, remember those years? kind of more in the Ziggy years where they just like couldn't beat the San Jose Earthquakes no matter how bad the San Jose Earthquakes were. yeah um But last year kind of felt like... ah There was a long time where that really wasn't the case anymore. They got a couple dubs at...
01:13:52
Speaker
PayPal Park. and they had the During the COVID year, remember, they hung seven on them. That was a crazy game. and Honestly, really, the bogey team years were predominantly Wando-fueled.
01:14:03
Speaker
They could just never stop that guy from banging on them. Greatest MLS player of all time. um But the San Jose Earthquakes this year, i was just looking at their results so far this season before we went live.
San Jose Earthquakes' Off-Season Moves and Defensive Struggles
01:14:17
Speaker
they had a really good first game of the year. They dropped four goals on Real Salt Lake. And then since then, I would describe it as like erratic. you know First year under Bruce Arena.
01:14:27
Speaker
I think they look improved. They made people... Cancelled, uncancelled Bruce Arena. Bruce is back. a lot of people thought that... ah the San Jose earthquakes might be like the tight leg bad again, give up 80 goals type team again.
01:14:42
Speaker
uh, they got actually a lot of praise for their off season as well. I thought, I thought it was excessive praise. I always, I felt like it was the type of thing where, when a really bad team has to like turn over their whole roster, lot of pundits are like, oh they're going to be so much better. Cause look, they made this move in this move in this move. And this year it was like, they got Chicho Rongo and Joseph Martinez. is Like, Ooh, that's like, look at that.
01:15:08
Speaker
yeah like do let's Let's pretend that they didn't just score a total of 25 points the entire season. Well, and also like Mike in any, any, any league in the world, You're not only getting relegated, you're getting your your program is shut. They're selling the club. Well, and my thing was also like, okay, you signed a couple of Pretty good strikers. i Like Joseph, I don't even know if he's he's fine, I guess. But like he's not it's not like they're signing Atlanta United, Joseph.
01:15:36
Speaker
And Chicho was outright bad for the second half of last year. But okay. Dude, he was like legitimately gone. Yeah. but you So you signed a couple of and MLS proven strikers. but um But my thing is like you gave up 80 goals.
01:15:49
Speaker
yeah eighty 80. I think it might have actually been 78. You might actually be able to just round it up to 100. you're that close... it It's too many goals is what it is.
01:15:59
Speaker
You can't... i mean but like Just for for reference, yeah Seattle gave up the fewest goals in the league last year at 35. thirty five i think like a normal like a normal and MLS defense, you give Yeah, probably. like 80. Yeah.
01:16:15
Speaker
yeah Unless you're inner Miami, then you give up 80 as well, but you also scored 200. Yeah. Yeah. um But it seems like, like my take on the quake so far is that they are better defensively, but this is a team that you should be able to score on even with the injury situation. Like,
01:16:35
Speaker
uh i guess that's sort of i uh when i'm going into a game i try to assess my expectations based on the context you know like this uh this last houston game my expectation was for them to play a lot better in attack and uh get the win the game before that, uh, the St. Louis game, my expectations were pretty low. i'm not going to lie with the injury situation and the, uh, squad rotation and the, uh, fixture congestion and all that.
01:17:07
Speaker
Uh, but for this game, i at least, I'm expecting one goal and maybe even two goals. It's not, this is not a very good defensive team. Like even with the injury situation that you have right now, you should be able to score a goal or two against the quakes.
01:17:25
Speaker
And if you can't clear that bar, then the discourse is going to be hot and it's going to be, uh, merited because like, if they get shut out in this game, that'll be three games in a row with no goals. That's not good. So they got to get one, man.
01:17:39
Speaker
I think this is a must-win match or at least a must-perform match, right? like I'd say must-perform. There's no such thing as must-win at this point in the season. right there's that there's There is for the vibe. like the term must-perform. Must-perform,
01:17:54
Speaker
This is a must-perform match. and The vibes are teetering. Yeah, you know, and it seems like both Jordan and Pedro's injuries are a little bit worse than initially led on. Shocker, Ari. Would you believe that? Well, Jordan's is at least.
01:18:11
Speaker
Pedro's is he's at least working back in. But like Schmetz said, like, I think he said two to three weeks for De La Vega, more like four. For like a month for La Vega and then like four months for Jordan.
01:18:24
Speaker
if you If you do Brian Spencer time. Oh, if you do that. Okay, I was like, what? Yeah, no. Like, I'm just... I mean, not to get on an injury tangent, but it's like it is very frustrating that they let Jordan get hurt like that because they played him 500 minutes in a row, but whatever.
01:18:40
Speaker
I'll leave that to another time. But back to the must-perform match. Like, as long as it's entertaining... i don't even need it to be entertaining. Grind it out.
01:18:51
Speaker
perform grinding it out is fine but you got a score don't if you grind out a scoreless draw i'm not going to be no i that's not i'm not going to give them all that much credit for that i need i need i need someone to step up and attack i wrote this when i keep referencing this like i wrote some masterful piece of art but uh i wrote the gamer for sounder at heart last week you're a writer now i'm officially a writer and i literally said the question remains who is going to be that guy for the sounders attack Who's going to be that guy while Jordan and Pedro are out? Who's it going to be?
01:19:21
Speaker
Someone needs to step up. Someone needs to do it. Is it going to be Albert? Is it going to be Rothrock? Is it going to be Georgie? Is it going to be... ah you know You know what?
01:19:32
Speaker
I think we should deploy. i think we should deploy. right wing Obed Vargas. Bring it back. I hadn't thought about that. we haven't We haven't played that in a while. but its There seems to be like differing recollections of how that went.
01:19:48
Speaker
I read a national pundit, I can't remember who, who was like, things got to a point last year where they had to deploy Obed Vargas at right mid and it didn't really work. And I'm like, I i remember that cooking. that was sick. It did work, though. It did work. And We were talking about like, man, maybe that's where you should find it. Maybe we were bugging, but I don't think so.
01:20:09
Speaker
No. I mean, I think, it listen, especially if you... Dude, I... Okay, here's what I like. Christian next to Danny Leyva. Alejandro, he was joking about I'm joking. It was not four months. It's probably a month. It's like a month. Whatever. I'm not a doctor.
01:20:21
Speaker
Please don't take my medical advice. um Except I do all horse medicine. I... Just kidding. We're going banned off YouTube. that's ah That joke's not going to land. What was I saying? Obed at Red Mid. Yeah, Obed at right mid. Yeah, play Danny Leyva with Christian in that central role.
01:20:42
Speaker
Danny Leyva's really good. I think he's earning minutes right now. He likes to be tight in tight spaces, and I think him and Christian could work really well off of each other if you're looking for that more attacking-minded game.
01:20:55
Speaker
And then you have Obed, who's already going to come back and defend anyway as a winger. I don't know. I like it. and then And then when Obed gets tired, you swap out for Georgie and get that last-minute push. It was working. I'd be interested to like go back and watch some of those games but i because I can't remember like specifically what games they were, but I remember it actually working pretty well.
01:21:21
Speaker
Yeah, he had the goal against Philly, correct. But was he playing in the double pivot that game? I don't remember. i can't i can't remember. I'm pretty sure he was playing in the double pivot that game, but there were, ah there was a set of games where he was playing at right mid and it I like the that was during the point of the season where the offense look was not producing at all. Yeah.
01:21:40
Speaker
And ah they did that and it it was like, Oh, okay. Yeah. Sometimes you just need a new wrinkle, man. Yeah, yeah exactly. like Throw a curveball. That was a classic Schmetz curveball that actually kind of worked.
01:21:54
Speaker
Paul Rothrock being the all-time like barometer of that. like The curveball that hit. but ah The Obed at right, I totally forgot about that. i'm just thinking well But then as ah someone in chat pointed out, like dan labba like I think Danny Leva has looked good enough to be planned.
01:22:12
Speaker
I think so. I think he he he he he's the de is the type of player that wants to try things. And I think you need that right now when you have a player like when you're just kind of anemic at the nine right now. Like you don't really have someone.
01:22:25
Speaker
Danny Leva wants to take a shot outside of the box. And I'm going to be honest with you. He's a player who I'm actually cool doing that. Like yeah he finds balls and takes his chances and shoots the ball and makes his own luck. And I like that. And if you're looking at an anemic ah offense,
01:22:41
Speaker
like what you're seeing right now while Jesus is getting integrated at the 9. I like a player who can play in a tight space ah like Danny Leyva, especially with a player like Jesus Ferreira who likes to drop back and get farther back.
01:22:58
Speaker
Rusnak, I'm sorry, he doesn't play well off of that, but Danny Leyva is a player that plays really well off that. I'm not saying play Danny Leyva at the 10, but I'm just saying if there's a way to kind of get him integrated in that attack...
01:23:10
Speaker
They could be close to each other. And Danny Leiva's fine being like right next to you. like Like if you watch his game, he's like, I will stand right here and I will take a pass from you from right here. Like that's, I love his game. And I really do. That's my, you know what, b Brian?
01:23:26
Speaker
Brian, we know you're watching. We know you're watching Schmitz. Deploy it. I'm telling you, I'm telling you, this one's free. The next one you got
Sounders' Offensive Strategies and Player Roles
01:23:33
Speaker
to pay for. that ah you that Was that your second good take of the night? I've been on a roll. Yeah. Wow. What what is going on? I'm kind of confused by that. It's the live stream, man. i don't have to play a character.
01:23:45
Speaker
um yeah like I like that idea. and really, ultimately, I think Hopefully, for i think i imagine Ferrer is gonna be playing the nine in this game. And i just want to see that.
01:23:59
Speaker
but i just want to see progress with that. I'm at the point with that where the hopes and dreams of it just hitting at full capacity right away. kind of past that. i don't really think that that is...
01:24:10
Speaker
There's clearly a lot more reps that everyone needs together to get it fully effective. But if we see like good, meaningful progress with that with that in this game, which would ideally include him getting on the stat sheet in some capacity, but I'm really looking at more eye test with that, how he and Rusnak are playing off each other.
01:24:31
Speaker
if they can just figure out how to... get more out of his skill set than they have been in this first couple of games at the nine. I think you're right that it did look better in the, ah in the last game, but i don't think anyone would say it's particularly close to where it, it needs to be. And really there's a,
01:24:52
Speaker
there's a lot riding on that right now. You know, we've got, we've been going to bat for Rusnak for years. He had contrary to popular narratives. He has stepped up in situations that are maybe not like for like for this, but similar to this over the years. So this is a situation where, yeah, like he's, he's got to step up.
01:25:13
Speaker
Ferreira has got to step up to whatever extent is possible with where his integration is at right now. And they need to, uh, Score one, ideally two, and maybe even three goals.
01:25:25
Speaker
I think an interesting wrinkle, too, that I would i would be interested to see deployed playing two nines in this next match. Moose and Ferrer? Yeah, because if you watched the last match, Ferrer looked like a different player when he had another nine to play off of.
01:25:43
Speaker
He looked comfortable. He looked like he could get out wide and take the space that he wanted. He wasn't getting in the way of Albert. Albert was able to distribute a little bit better. I don't know, like if you're really gonna if you're really set on starting Albert and you're really set on starting Jesus, I think it might pay you a cup like a little bit of a dividend to start a player you know like Moose up top with him. just It's not even because I think Moose is going to score or be super effective.
01:26:13
Speaker
It's just that like it's that little mental thing for him. And also, if Moose does score, that's great for your backup striker to like have that mentality. He got the one in in Mexico, which I'm hoping a nice little confidence boost.
01:26:29
Speaker
ah But yeah, I wouldn't i wouldn't mind that. i guess I'm not saying do that the full game. I'm just saying like it was nice to see that at the end of the match where he was able to settle it. does seem like ah
01:26:41
Speaker
Ferreira as a pure nine. That's just um it's not really his... not really his game. He's like a false nine. I know he did it at FC Dallas, but like I've been saying the whole time, one of the reasons that I i liked the trade was because of his all around game, like how he sets other guys up, how unselfish he is.
01:27:03
Speaker
I think we saw ah we gen saw genuinely good encouraging glimpses of that aspect of his game in the Antigua series and the ah the KKR goal against LAFC was created by Ferreira dime.
01:27:18
Speaker
So I think there has like ah some people have been talking about the Jesus Ferreira experience like it's been like a total yeah like joke or like a bust. i don't I think the last two games have been rough.
01:27:30
Speaker
It's his first ah two times playing at the nine with this team. yeah so ah That is definitely undeniable. like that is not That hasn't gone well yet. but like There have been good moments where he's he's been he's played well as a facilitator and combining with other players.
01:27:47
Speaker
but that's not really You see what he can do when he feels comfortable with a player? His combination with Paul Areola was beauty. It was beauty, but he knows he's played with Paul Arreola for a long time. He knows where he's going to be.
01:28:01
Speaker
He could anticipate. He could make those passes. Go back and watch those games where they played together. It was like, we literally had a whole section. We titled a whole podcast, Thank You FC Dallas. Because they were like demigods on the soccer pitch.
01:28:16
Speaker
And I think that... That's why I won't count Jesus Ferreira out. that's what whatever But i think you I think you're right. like They need to do something to make him comfortable. They need to put him in a position to play well.
01:28:28
Speaker
And I want to pose this question to you. yeah Would you rather have Albert Rusnak at the 10 or Jesus Ferreira at the 10?
01:28:39
Speaker
rusnack Because i think Ferreira's skill set might not be pure nine, but it has more nine elements to where like Rusnak that like he's not as effective, nearly as effective out wide.
01:28:57
Speaker
He's been extremely effective for long periods, long sample sizes as like a pure 10. And i think that is your best chance.
01:29:08
Speaker
is getting them on the same page. Those two specifically. And that just hasn't happened yet. yeah But I think the best chance you have at that is with Rusnak playing his preferred position as like a Pier 10.
01:29:20
Speaker
And then, i mean, you know you don't need Ferreira to be like Benteke. You can... Well, he's not Ben Teke. That's what I'm saying. He's not that type of striker. Jordan is more that type striker. That's what I'm saying. That's part of the problem. He's not anything the Sounders have ever had in the last five years. He's a very unique player. He is a technically gifted player who likes space, but he doesn't like space in the same way that Jordan likes space. Jordan wants to run onto the space.
01:29:48
Speaker
Jesus wants to peel defenders and make a pass. Or just... or just like you know take a take a touch do you and then shoot or like whatever like he's he's confident in his space i don't know it's just yeah like they're they're completely opposite players hazers needs more space to operate jordan needs more space to run on to the ball do you know what i mean but it's like two opposite ways of facilitating and like game planning and i just don't think they've done well to to to to do to play like that Schmitz did ah quite comedically reveal that he was on a minute's limit. After saying that he wasn't. But didn't he play 90?
01:30:26
Speaker
He did. Well, he's off of it And Schmitz also said he was of said he was off of it. That was so funny. Because, ah I mean, like correct me if I'm wrong, but hadn't Nico been like, is he on a minute's limit? like what's going on? Why is he only playing 60? And Schmitz was like, no, I don't know what you're talking about. We just wanted to add juice. And then unprompted, he was like, well, he's been on minute. That's what I'm saying, dude. He's is such a fucking troll, man. Brian, you're a troll, dude. But that wouldn't like that was like... ah That felt like an unintentional troll.
01:30:53
Speaker
Like, he was genuinely like... No, he was... No, he was... He knows what he's doing. He knows. I feel like... Yeah, you could be right. and that I think he knows. In that situation... the Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. that it's just That's the way he deals with the media. It's awesome. It was classic Schmitz. I like it because it's just it's funny.
01:31:14
Speaker
like to have your coach be like, yeah, no, I have no clue who this player is. He's literally in the training facility behind you. You probably just had like an hour-long meeting with him. You're like, I've literally never met a guy named Ryan in my life.
01:31:27
Speaker
And then the next day you're on KJR talking about how he's in the building. Not even the next day, later that night. Later that night. And then the next day you're like, yeah, he might, he's in the facility. We can't announce it. He's like, he's like, there might be a guy named Ryan in the facility who might be here. Like what bro? I know the ah vibes are down right now, understandably after that last game, but.
01:31:49
Speaker
i ah The Ryan Kent stuff has given me a little bit of, okay, all right. like i'm I'm excited for the Ryan Kent era, ah if for no other reason than that it's like you know an interesting little curveball or wrinkle. And like when you get a new player in season like this, there's always the allure of, oh, maybe this guy can give us a boost or like and behold to add something new that hasn't been here yet.
01:32:13
Speaker
So I definitely, I'm trying not to have my expectations be that he's the savior type agenda, but I'm, ah I'm intrigued. Noah, I'm very intrigued and not just by what we see on the YouTube highlights, but what he can bring to the locker room and just the personality of the team.
01:32:34
Speaker
think there's some potential for some, for some good stuff there. I feel like this is just like the city of Seattle. When this roster is done, it's going to be a thing of beauty. When this city is done, when that light rail is done, it's going to be a thing of beauty, Ari. Because think about this.
01:32:49
Speaker
Think about this roster fully healthy. That's a thing of beauty. That's a thing of beauty. What if De La Vega, Jordan were healthy at the same time and Ryan Kent was healthy? And Ryan Kent is cooking.
01:33:03
Speaker
What if they have all those guys next year and Paul Areola is back yep and then they sign the U-22? And Tejas Verr has gone in your situation. and then we're We're going to get very excited for that. And then three games into the season, everyone's going to blow their hamstring and we're going to be back to rotating everyone.
01:33:19
Speaker
But yeah like you have the hopes and dreams until then. yeah It's okay because Kalani Kosari-NZ scores 20 goals that season and it's totally fine. Shout out KKR. um
01:33:31
Speaker
Hunchpunch says, Jordan has one tool in the tool belt speed. He's better served when getting over the top passes, but can do a knock onto himself if needed. Makes him an ideal. Oh, so this is a... Jordan's a better winger, not a nine. Wrong.
01:33:45
Speaker
No one I've had. We've sparred over that over the years. Like, I had i was on the page for a long time. and As recently as the beginning of last season that I didn't like Jordan as the nine, really. Like, I i i was the one arguing that they should just...
01:34:01
Speaker
keep spamming Raul because that was the best chance that they had. And ah Jordan has attributes that have been effective on the wing in his career. Jordan Morris is a major league soccer striker. I know that people don't like to hear it.
01:34:15
Speaker
He is a big physical. He's a big physical attacker who people don't want to believe it, but he has a finisher's touch. He can finish really well.
01:34:26
Speaker
And he's he's pacey, but also he's a big body, bro. I'm sorry. Like, have you seen Major League Soccer defenders? Dude, have you seen Jacks, Reagan in person? That man is not human. That dude is a basketball player.
01:34:40
Speaker
but dude is a That dude is a linebacker. Like, good luck. Good luck. i don't i really good He's a nine. He's not a winger, man. You want a winger like Pedro de la Vega.
01:34:51
Speaker
You want a winger who... You put your technical skills out there. okay right And then Jordan's your big body in the middle. He's your your big red target. I'm on the page that he he proved himself as a nine last year. He had 18 goals, seven assists across all comps.
01:35:08
Speaker
And really after ah after the famously bad like first... that Well, okay, there's actually stats on his stats. Stats on his stats. There's stats on his stats. There's stats on ah his performance like after he full-time moved to the nine.
01:35:25
Speaker
And I remember them. He put up 14 and five in however many games. That's like, that's what you want. He was on track. That's what you want from a DP. stuear He was literally on track this season before he got injured. that's right And then he's going to come back.
01:35:39
Speaker
This is not some like season ending injury. He's going to come back and he's going to play. Yeah. I thought the, that's why think we were both kind of saying it at the time, but that's why the discourse about him being a DP was way overblown, in my opinion. Because mean, had 18-7 last year. 18-7. 14-5 after becoming the ninth.
01:35:59
Speaker
last year eighteen and seven and fourteen and five after becoming the nine he was like on the He was higher than a lot of nines on the golden boot race. Just going to say it. Also, Hunchbunch says ah he's better when he's not the number... That's just not true.
01:36:13
Speaker
when He's better when he's not the number one option. What? What are you talking about? Look at what... He's not the number one option right now because he's injured and looks like the team can't score. So I don't really know. Is that is that because of De La Vega? No, it's because Jordan Morris isn't at the nine.
01:36:28
Speaker
I think that was the narrative like... earlier in his career, maybe. But, like, I guess... ah Like, that's sort of what I think that he he proved and earned status-wise last year. Like, the production doesn't lie. Like, people can say that he misses sitters a lot and that maybe the eye test doesn't look good or, like, ah point to different times where the team has struggled with him up top or whatever. But, like...
01:37:01
Speaker
14 and five after he he became the nine that like, that's all that for me personally, that's all the proof I need that he can do it at a high enough level for certainly for the team to ah contend, which is that's, that's what's at issue at the end of the day. Like, can they contend with him in that spot? I think they clearly can.
01:37:21
Speaker
And yeah, They've also like they've won a bunch of trophies in his career with him as maybe not the number one option, but a very prominent option, like one of the biggest options on the team. However you rate it. No, no, no, no, no. You don't even have to do that. You can go back to last season. Do you remember what we looked like when he was not the number one option?
01:37:42
Speaker
Do you remember what Raul Ruiz-Diaz looked like? Do you remember what this club looked like? It was terrible. They do not get to the Western Conference Final. unless Jordan Morris is at the number nine.
01:37:54
Speaker
I don't want to hear it. and you're it that That is that is reality. That is what happened. He is the nine. And with and Paul Rothrock. Absolutely, Paul Rothrock. No Paul Rothrock erasure, but I'm saying...
01:38:06
Speaker
The person putting in the goals was Jordan Morris. The person who turned that season around with Paul Rothrock was Jordan Morris. Like, it's just, it's, it's, you're, you're like, I don't know. I don't know what to, I don't know what to tell you. Joe makes a good point, which is that, I think, uh, perception of Jordan has been skewed in his career because he's never taken penalty kicks, which I think is actually an underrated. It's true. Yeah.
01:38:34
Speaker
like if If he took the penalties, I guess throughout his career, but particularly last year, and he was up at like more like... Because like half of Rostak's goals were penalties. 23 to 25 goals across all comps. He would be getting talked about like...
01:38:50
Speaker
God tier, but he never has taken the penalties. bro these this We need a technical finish. Pull up the goal against LAFC. Seriously. like What are you talking about, bro? Shut up. Shut up.
01:39:01
Speaker
you're you're youre You guys are triggering Noah, chat. You're so dumb. No, we know no you don't. you have You have wingers. That's their thing. That's their thing. You have Jesus Ferreira who can play off of Jordan Morris.
01:39:13
Speaker
What are you talking about? You don't need you are watching Major League Soccer. You are watching Major League Soccer. Get it through your head. This is not the Premier League. This is Major League Soccer. It's a different game, okay?
01:39:26
Speaker
I'm sorry. this is This is different, all right? Jordan Morris is a very good Major League Soccer player. He's a very good Major League Soccer player, nine. Dude, Christian Benteke does the same exact thing and won the gold boot.
01:39:39
Speaker
what What are you talking about? i don't are why aren't you in Why aren't you in the comments saying, well, actually, Christian Penteke is a better winger because blah, blah. You're just dumbt you guys it's is stupid. You're stupid.
01:39:50
Speaker
and MLS needs to level up, maybe, but that's not what we're here for. We play in Major League Soccer. You have a major leagueak so a player who is a Major League Soccer player. This is just stupid. Go chirp about Benteke. I hate it. I hate the Jordan Morris slander, man. It's so stupid.
01:40:06
Speaker
it's ah in in Again, like you always say, where where ah you're not offering any other options. You're not offering any other options. Jordan should be the number nine for the USMNT too. also that's See, now we're cooking. You guys triggered me. Oh my God. I was so calm today. triggered i was so calm today You're very triggered.
01:40:25
Speaker
But thats that's good. I like the content. I like the hot discourse. Ruiz Diaz scored six PKs last year. yeah Merchant. He was merchanting. That's what I'm saying. You don't call. You can't call.
01:40:37
Speaker
They have to pick a different talking point because they can't say Jordan Morris PK merchant. It's kind of sick that he's not... well Oh, you're right, because if he did take PKs, that they would call him a merchant. That's what I'm saying, dude. It's just so dumb, man. like You're stupid. I mean, i
MLS Player Comparisons and Performances
01:40:53
Speaker
ah i think people are going to ah sandbag his status as the 9 no matter what, which is unfortunate.
01:41:02
Speaker
But like to me... if he's banging in goals, the team is winning and they're contending for trophies. That's what I ultimately care about. So that's, and they, they, to be fair, like they did that last year with him as the nine, he got 19 goal contributions after he moved to the position and they got, they got close to making MLS cup. They were a few minutes away. So they obviously fell short, but I think the idea that
01:41:34
Speaker
Like what, like a better better nine they would have beat the Galaxy? I don't know. and I don't know. No, I just think if Ricky Pooj goes off instead of said the playing through an ACL tear, you go off.
01:41:50
Speaker
you went you you You win that game. yeah Who knows what happens? Who knows what happens? That was literally a battle of one of the best offenses versus one of the best defense. That was MLS Cup.
01:42:01
Speaker
That game was literally MLS Cup. Like, I'm sorry. Like that. The Red Bulls were not. The Red Bulls were not even a factor, dude. I'm sorry. John Tolkien with his ugly ass haircut. Bro, you were never winning any. Look, look, the camera's mad now. How did that even happen? Why does that?
01:42:17
Speaker
how do you How are you doing that? Because sometimes I don't know. I think we can turn it. Wait, wait. Go to the camera. they did it work Zoom meeting the other day. That's so sick. Wait, go to the... um Yeah, we'll do it. up We'll do it. i'll do that yeah we all We've had enough technical difficulties on this stream.
01:42:34
Speaker
I feel like it became a banger stream when it was like a ah two man operate they game a two-man operation so it actually worked out for the better yeah I agree um I think that's a we went a long time on ah on well we were going on the earthquakes and then it became Jordan as the nine discourse so you don't have never will never die but you don't have to be sorry for triggering me chat this is what this is the content he likes getting triggered he likes getting triggered Yeah.
01:43:02
Speaker
Also, James, yes. I will take Ricky Puj over Alvaro Snack. Done. That's not even an argument. Ricky Puj is the best 10 in the entire league. he's one of one He is one of the best 10s in the entire world. i'll I truly believe that. I think that might be like a...
01:43:20
Speaker
Accurate. Like, I'm not even joking. Like, that dude is like... i that He is my favorite. I mean, if I'm going to look across the league, he is my favorite. He's the only like for Ladero that I could think of. yeah Because that they're that quality that they both have of ah just like non-stop work rate and also like defending yeah at at that position. Like, Ladero was such a dog on defense. Ricky Puj has that same quality.
01:43:47
Speaker
That is hard to find. There's a reason that there's no other player like that in the league right now. And he was only a free transfer because they got mad. The Galaxy cooked at a historic level with that because he's 22 Barcelona. It doesn't talked about enough.
01:44:06
Speaker
at barcelona yeah it doesn't get talked about enough like how they managed to get that profile to the league is there any comp for that like of a team pulling a barcelona player with that pedigree at that age no like i i mean it's the david beckham like when they brought david beckham that's about it that i can compare but i don't even think it was the age like no one is if he was way older i mean tiago almada i guess you can compare but i think that he's so much better he's so much better yeah Diego Almada did put in a ah fun shift during that Argentina match, though. He's like very he's very good.
01:44:44
Speaker
But, like, I don't know if he's... Like, the thing that makes them, like, guys like Ladero and Ricky Puj so unique is that... Is just that... That work rate and, like, not just the ah defending well, but, like, the willingness to do that.
01:44:59
Speaker
Yeah. Like... The physical ability that it takes, but then also... Ladero freaking loved playing D. Yeah, that was like a part of him. I do... ah like You know, we are fine with Rusnak on this pod, but like I do miss having a 10 that just was running everywhere like a freaking maniac the entire game. That was awesome. Which I do think that that's probably something they'll look for in the next...
01:45:27
Speaker
10 that they sign which i is that like who they'll pick the u22 for i feel like that's got to be i also say like it uh i do miss it and it was fun to watch and it brought a lot to the team i would i don't think rusnak is like uh a liability on defense to the point where it affects the team defense at all that if it did i would be concerned about it But like they were the best defense in the league last year with him starting week in, week out.
01:45:56
Speaker
So as long as they're doing that, I don't really care if the number 10 is like an insane dog on defense. right But it is sick having a 10 like that. I won't lie.
01:46:09
Speaker
to so to also speak There are weaknesses in Ricky Pooja's game. like In the way that he plays specifically. That's what I'm saying. like He is a turnover merchant. And like... I still think that he's an incredible player, but like, yeah, there's something to be said. Again, and MLS is a very different league than a lot of these other leagues in the world. like it's so much more physical. It's so much more demanding than a lot of these leagues. And like, you know, Ricky Pooj plays really well, but he also, you can see he has games. Like you say, Ghost Snack, but like there's Ghost Pooj.
01:46:43
Speaker
Pooj Ghost? Pooj Snack? I don't know. Whatever. like he where he you know he Or he literally will turn over the ball and it will be... That like that that is literally happens a lot. the flaw The flaw in his game is that he's hyper-aggressive to a fault. like That's where you can get to those Galaxy teams. They...
01:47:05
Speaker
they or like the one The Galaxy team of last year that was so super good and won MLS Cup. they They were obviously, I think, the best team in the league. And we were talking about how we were Galaxy podcast last year. Yeah. You know, somewhat facetiously, but not really.
01:47:23
Speaker
But like that Galaxy team, that's why I thought the Sounders could actually get at them in that game last year is because they had that flaw of it wasn't just Ricky Pooge. It was like their whole team was kind of wired like that. And Greg Vaney like freely admitted it. He's like, yeah, that's just how we do it. And we we do that and we let the chips fall where they may.
01:47:42
Speaker
And I respect that a lot like I do. And
Fan Engagement and Channel Membership
01:47:45
Speaker
it was a lot of fun to watch. But it also means what it means is that you can get got in any given game. Yeah. It's true. like ah the way that the sounders play is it it's it is like harder to get at them like that when they're on their at their best level the galaxy they don't they don't care yeah They just would go for the glory. so I see ah the the brigades in chat. Brigade, listen, this is my final beg.
01:48:12
Speaker
None of you are members. None of you are channel members. Okay. This is something that I'm just going to announce here. We're going be expanding our channel membership offering. We're going to do some some stuff. Me and Ari have to like lock it down, but we're actually going to be offering stuff as the channel membership. But I will say one thing.
01:48:28
Speaker
We literally added the ghost snack emoji for you. And no one joined. Yeah. And no one joined. And you're here. You're just sending the normal ghost emoji when you could be sending literally a photo of Albert Rosnack as a ghost in this chat that we paid for to be made for you.
01:48:44
Speaker
So if we don't get at least one member from the Ghostnack Brigade, maybe i'm going to start banning you. I'm just kidding. I never ban you guys. Have heard the LA Galaxy fans crash out over the Christian Roldan foul? They say Christian. Yeah, well, our Galaxy fans are not the smartest. Us included. I... I do remember that.
01:49:01
Speaker
I don't remember exactly what happened. It was... Okay, I'm sorry. It was literally a Pedro de la Vega foul that would have done it. Because Pedro de la Vega fouled him like right before... Yeah. And then Christian Roldan had like It's kind of unclear when it happened. It was... That was the thing is that they were saying that they knew when it happened, but it's like does no one knows.
01:49:21
Speaker
He was playing on it for like 10 minutes. No, Greg Vaney literally... If you watch the documentary... the MLS documentary. um It literally... It's... Greg Vanney's like, wait, you what what happened? Like, he's coming up to him after and he's like, I think I did my knee. And he's crying.
01:49:37
Speaker
And Greg Vanney's like, bro, you just played. What are you talking about? And so... yeah it's people were ah People were clowning on Seattle for they were like, oh, they got assisted on by a guy with a blown ACL. I couldn't tell.
01:49:52
Speaker
like he was just going. He looked like... i thought he That was crazy.
Sounders Stadium Location Debate
01:49:57
Speaker
He's a dog for that. He's he's insane. i was james enno you do James, you do buy Super Chats. That's true. that's true But I'm just saying, we we we appreciate you.
01:50:06
Speaker
this was like This was a dunk at Ryze. Just kidding. He really just wanted to plug the... I just wanted to plug the membership. Yeah. um All right. We're coming up on two hours. I didn't have a heck of a lot else to get to tonight. I had Stadium Discourse written down. Let's do that for like a couple minutes. Yeah, I'm i'm literally... I've got nothing going on. I had a shitty day at work, so this has been fun. We... ah We had our video come out today where we clipped up when I was streaming and talking about the ah the stadium discourse. yeah the The comment section is doing pretty well. so Oh, Reese. I'm sorry, Reese. I figured we can...
01:50:44
Speaker
figured we can throw down some some takes on that because we got people talking about it basically i mean it's just the same topic i was talking about at the time which is the idea of the sounders getting a soccer specific stadium and uh what that would entail and uh if it's a good idea at all and People have got a lot of takes on it, but I'm going to just lay down where I think my final take lies with this, which is that
01:51:19
Speaker
if they want to get like their own soccer-specific stadium and... do it in a location that wouldn't be a downgrade from where Lumen is at location wise.
01:51:34
Speaker
The only option that I can think of that, satisfies that criteria and this is it is if they renovate like and i have no idea about the logistics of this if it's possible if it would work uh if it could ever actually happen but if they renovate memorial okay and like say in in this hypothetical world they put like a super awesome state of the art like lights out soccer specific stadium right there i could get down with that yeah well you know that's already happening right
01:52:07
Speaker
Memorial is going to be renovated by the OVG group, which is the same group that did the um the Climate Pledge Arena. ah But it's not that's not like for Sounders use.
01:52:19
Speaker
No, the city is going to continue to own it. right It's going to be the same deal where it's like a land... So that's like what that's happening. I'm saying like ah if the Sounders could ever do that... that's the only That's the only location I could think of where I would be like, you could have a comparable game day experience and accessibility as you have at Lumen Field right there by the Space Needle.
01:52:42
Speaker
And i would be i'd be cool with that I the idea of like doing it out at Long Acres I just don't like that man I think that is such a huge downgrade on like the game day experience and the accessibility yeah like you are I think you're just downgrading a lot if you do that like I thought them buying the Long Acres facility was weird in the first place like I understand that land is really hard to come around in Seattle but it just felt like I don't know. It just feels weird to me. You're you're you're nowhere close to anything.
01:53:15
Speaker
and And their whole plan was like, well, we want to be able to have a place where we can develop a stadium. that's That's literally, that was initially thoughts. Well, I think my impression of why they invested in Long Acres was Starfire way outdated, like, realistically. Sure, absolutely. like But that's also in the middle of nowhere.
01:53:33
Speaker
Yeah, but, like, I mean, i the location of your training facility of your training facility isn't, like, I don't really care about that. don't know. but like i think the way they were thinking of it was we need a new state-of-the-art big facility for just like credibility man like when you yeah showed players starfire you know shout out to the dempsey and all the big stars that came to the team despite that but like it's not yeah hey look at this there's uh you know Well, and they didn't even own Starfire, I'm pretty sure. So it was like, it's the same thing. Like people saying, oh, well, Starfire was dog shit, man.
01:54:10
Speaker
I was playing games at Starfire while the Sounders were training. exactly nothing we're saying though Getting changed in a bathroom just with urinal. Like it wasn't even like a locker room. like you there's that's why they upgraded that.
01:54:22
Speaker
Yeah, there's an interview with Steph Fry who where he's like, yeah, that it was bad scenes at Starfire. It is. It's a dump. It's trash. so like It was way outdated. It was way outdated, but i just I felt like there was an opportunity to I don't know. Do something different. Do something in the city. there's There is a training facility. Yeah, man. like i don't know.
01:54:45
Speaker
i like I don't care about that. okay Fuck the training facility. we're back to if it's out a if they' if they they can train wherever, ah but like if they put the stadium out there, I just think that that... I love the Lumenfields location.
01:55:00
Speaker
I don't think you can beat it. And it does suck that the monster truck rallies take precedent. It does. But... I've got an idea for you. Yeah.
01:55:13
Speaker
You know all those parking lots in Northgate? You know how there's like like a bajillion build the stadium there right off the light rail in Northgate? That's actually not a bad idea. Isn't that where the Kraken practice?
01:55:25
Speaker
Yeah, like you've got the Iceplex over there and then like like there's the whole old mall and then you have all of those parking lots for that. Why don't we just do it there? If it's light rail, anywhere that's like in the city and light rail accessible, yeah i can I can see that.
01:55:45
Speaker
yeah I can see myself supporting that. Renton, like, the having the building their own stadium at Long Acres where it's, like, not accessible at all and really far away from the actual city.
01:55:58
Speaker
i don't like it. I think it it seems like, ah it's and maybe that's sentimental attachment to Lumen, but I just think that they have such a sick location with that that's so centralized and, like, easy.
01:56:13
Speaker
I don't know. don't want to... Floating pitch. the M's win? Did the M's win? Reese says J.P. Crawford double play to end it. Let's go. Shout out. Go Shout out baseball.
01:56:25
Speaker
um um Here's another one that I thought about because you know the Sounders or Sounders, the Sonics Arena guy? You know who I'm talking about? He bought those two parcels of land downtown.
01:56:37
Speaker
Yeah. Right there. get Get Sonics guy to build it. if they if there is i My impression is that there's just like... Yeah, Chris Hansen, the pedophile guy. the way that not not He's not a pedophile. I'm just saying the guy to catch a predator guy. to catch a pre But he's not actually that guy.
01:56:57
Speaker
Oh, it's a guy who's like coincidentally... Yeah, they're both named Chris Hansen. Okay, gotcha. They're different guys. it's not the Catch a Predator guy. Different guys. um if there is a look If there is a location like that, that has like the same accessibility... But like one of the other things I was talking about in the video is just like... I feel like having the stadium right in the city ah gives it a...
01:57:23
Speaker
Seattle vibe and identity, you know, more so than you get for a stadium. Like those stadiums, I went to the one in Bridgeview where the Chicago Fire used to play. yeah It didn't feel like you were in Chicago.
01:57:36
Speaker
Dude, the New York Red Bulls one is awful. Yeah. It's awful. There was an era where teams thought that building them out in the burbs was like the play because that was the demographic. They were was like families and stuff. yeah it ah It ultimately became clear that the MLS product is much more like a young person thing than like a suburban family type thing. And that ah stadiums that are like downtown, easily accessible like that are better. So teams kind of went away from the putting them out in the burbs.
01:58:08
Speaker
But like the, I just, I just, i remember being at the one in Bridgeview for the fire game a few years ago when they still played there. And I was just like, this is, like I wouldn't be able to... like the At Lumen, you're like, I'm in Seattle. There's nowhere else I could be.
01:58:23
Speaker
The one in Bridgeview, I was like, I could be in any state and I would have no idea like if you didn't tell me. i The Seattle U championship field, there's just there's too much. there it's it's there's It wouldn't work. there's you like Unfortunately, you literally do have to have parking.
01:58:39
Speaker
And I don't know where you would build it. It's too compact in that area. i don't know how you would get the... You'd have to vacate at least a couple of streets and I just don't think they're going to do that in Capitol Hill. I would love it to be there though.
01:58:51
Speaker
That or they have the other playing fields. and I think on the other side of championship field where kind of by the... do you know where that Carmelo's is? Carmelo's Tacos. It's on that street. There's like also the coffee shop. Across the street from there, you can do that.
01:59:06
Speaker
Husky. People said Husky Stadium. What do you think about that? Like, build it? No, just, like, play at Husky Stadium. But the the whole point is to, like, get your own facility.
01:59:17
Speaker
Yeah. Like, location-wise, Husky Stadium is one of the coolest stadiums ever. But... there's but there are places there There are places, though, down in soto where you could totally buy land, destroy some buildings and build something. do you know what I'm saying? Like, it's not out of the realm of possibility. It's just that like, you know, I think someone else said it. It's like, there's no shot that this ownership group is, has the money to invest in that real estate.
01:59:47
Speaker
Yeah. Like you you, you effectively have to bring someone else in or you have to win the club world cup. We got a couple of get good chats here. Choices would be Memorial Terminal 46 Salvation Army Buildings to the East of Lumen.
02:00:01
Speaker
Is Terminal 46, what is that? That's on the water, I think. Am I wrong? Pull Google Maps, bro. Maybe we should just pull up Google Maps. GeoGuessr?
02:00:15
Speaker
how many seats do you want the stadium to have? Because I feel like Sounders attendance. or chi Yeah. 30 or 35 is what that's where I'm at is where I would want it. And I, I feel like they can definitely pack that.
02:00:30
Speaker
Yeah. I just, I guess my thing is that Hanauer made it sound like the long acres idea is the, is the ultimate like plan or goal. And I just don't, I don't like that.
02:00:43
Speaker
I think it's lacking any sort of like long-term sight. i Yes, it's easy because you have the land. And I know that... ninety Let's be real here, Ari. I know that they're talking this big game.
02:01:01
Speaker
They're just trying to leverage Lumen into not treating them like a like ah like a piece of trash. I hope that's it. like There's no... if they like okay I have heard rumblings that people hate the business manager for the Sounders. They say he's incompetent. This is this is like this is like ah on on spec, you know rumor has it kind of thing.
02:01:23
Speaker
ah From what I've heard from certain people, they're just like, he just doesn't know what he's Wade, whatever, is that him? No, when not Wade. No, not Wade. Whatever the business guy is. don't fucking know. Who cares? Yeah, don't Um, and, but I just, there's no way because these decisions don't get made without talking to a lot of people.
02:01:44
Speaker
These decisions don't get made without waiting, you know, like all of the stuff. It's just that they, they would understand how many fans they would lose. You can't unlock that many. I just thought, dude, you'd be, you'd be cooked.
02:01:58
Speaker
The floating page. Yes, you're right. The floating... Sounders should play on the sound, build the floating pitch. Can you someone make us like a ah graphic for like a ah YouTube video where it can just be like, the Sounders do stadium and it's just like on a cruise ship. Get caught up in the battle about rezoning Soto. We don't need that stress.
02:02:18
Speaker
That is true. Dude, we're going to have fight with the port. Oh my God, we can have our own Sonic State. Jefferson Golf. We're getting some... ah There's some interesting ideas. Yeah, dude, fuck that golf course. Let's do that. where's that where's jefferson golf is that that one's north i think actually if i can't remember this dude pull up google maps i'm telling you where we should play geoguess like just yeah like because it's got to be so because like you can you can zone it yeah beacon hill oh yeah hold on i gotta pull it up for the people yeah yeah yeah yeah
02:02:52
Speaker
Because like it's gotta be it's got to be you know If we think about it, we got to go... like Okay, so we see where we are now. Go Street View in Soto. Let's find some buildings we could tear down.
02:03:04
Speaker
don't know how to use this Okay, scroll down. Just here. Do you want me to drive? Sorry.
02:03:15
Speaker
Street View. Whoa.
02:03:20
Speaker
This building, bro, you're telling me we need this? We don't need this building or this building eliminat right here. Done. Eliminate all this. Just found a stadium site. Look how fast you did that.
02:03:31
Speaker
Look at this, guys. 1715 Occidental South. We will be in contact. we are but We're stealing your land. We're not even buying it. We're taking it from you. Eminent domain.
02:03:43
Speaker
Get ready to learn lawsuits, buddy. Boomer Ari. Okay. All right. as Street View for Google Maps. That is above my... That is Showbox. Dude, i who cares?
02:03:55
Speaker
but They have another one, bro. This is the Soto one. have you Okay, how many times have you been to a concert where you look up on your phone, you're like, oh, it's the it's the Showbox. Okay, I go to the Showbox, but it's actually the Soto Showbox. So you actually went to the wrong venue and there's a whole other event going on, right?
02:04:10
Speaker
And they somehow let you into the event and you're like, why is there an EDM DJ playing right now? I'm supposed to be seeing a rapper right now. This is a very weird opener. And so you sit there for an hour and you're like, well, maybe this isn't the opener. Maybe i went to the wrong place.
02:04:23
Speaker
And then by the time that you get down to the other concert, ah the show is halfway done. And they also can't let you in because you had already scanned your ticket at the other place and they somehow let you in.
02:04:35
Speaker
And so you had to buy another ticket and it was ah really embarrassing for you. So like, honestly, demolish it. Yeah. I didn't think we were going to get demolish the show box.
02:04:47
Speaker
But that, I mean, here we are. i kind of, yeah I think ultimately where I land is like accessibility and like a Seattle, actual Seattle location are important things to me. Yeah.
02:05:03
Speaker
And I would be, i would feel like it was a downgrade and not a good call to sacrifice those things. And it's definitely, I think you're you're right. That part of it might be that they're trying to get better treatment. And honestly, like I i i was watching, i was rewatching the original discussion today And I just do not say volunteer park. Take that back.
02:05:28
Speaker
That is a terrible take. Sorry, continue. I just saw something horrific in the chat. What happened? um what happened You suggested volunteer park for the stadium site. I don't even remember what I was talking about. Oh, yeah.
02:05:42
Speaker
Yeah, I forgot. ah Can't wait to have the next Sounders Stadium to be where the taco truck parks. The one that overcharged Noah that one time. Yeah, exactly, bro. The one in that one gas station where the gas was $5.58 and the tacos but they charged me Yeah, exactly.
02:06:02
Speaker
Build on top of the show box so I can watch the sounders and then hit a concert after. Okay. The show box and new shows the, you can have a little concert space and thing. There's already one Lumen.
02:06:14
Speaker
They literally have a concert space there. Done. Yeah. I just don't like the long are acres idea. It's bad, man. I hope they don't do that. it's I mean, either way, this wouldn't be a... I remember what I was saying. like it hurt The fact that like they get displaced for stuff yeah when they're in tournaments that aren't the league season and stuff, that is stupid.
02:06:35
Speaker
if you like The monster trucks don't pay rent for that place, man. There is no way. I'm sorry. Like... if it's ah Even if it's CCC and you haven't like accounted for that, the Lumen Field schedulers haven't accounted for that, too bad. like What am I missing with that? like You say, too bad.
02:06:51
Speaker
There's Champions League. You either reschedule your monster truck. um It's not about the monster trucks. It's just any event like that. You either reschedule it or you're not having it. Period. You don't pay rent here. The soccer team does.
02:07:03
Speaker
like What... What is that? It's a shitty landlord. It's literally... The Sounders are experiencing a slumlord or they're experiencing a really bad roommate where like their mom comes to stay and they kick you out of your own room and have her stay there. Do you know what I mean? like that's like That's to me what it feels like.
02:07:21
Speaker
It's like you're in this abusive relationship with... First of all, the Seahawks are fucking ass. So the fact that they're even chirping at all, it's like... We're going to move that team to Oklahoma. like I'm sorry, dude. What the hell? like i just Dude, i can't. The Seahawks play there, though, and also...
02:07:39
Speaker
play there though and also like It's just so weird that they treat... this Something must have... Someone must have said something. Something must have happened. Because there's no reason they would treat their second biggest tenant or their biggest tenant.
02:07:54
Speaker
Because the Seahawks, you know, run the show. Right. Why would you treat the person who's bringing you revenue... bringing more games. There are more soccer games at that stadium than there are football games. There are more soccer games in one year than there are four years of playing football.
02:08:11
Speaker
Now you have the rain playing there. It's like one season of soccer is like eight years of football. And you treat them like shit. And then people are like, oh wow, Lumen Field actually sucks.
02:08:23
Speaker
And then they're like, why would I come to a Seahawks game? Because it's just shitty like this. But more people. the The monster truck thing had me crashing out. Yeah, I did. And that is... Stuff like that is why...
02:08:37
Speaker
I can understand the desire to have just your own facility where you're in full control and you don't have to deal with stuff like that. That would be nice. Just buy Lumen. Just buy Lumen. Sure. Move the, how about the Seahawks play at Long Acres? Yeah, dude. And then honestly, that's closer to their fan base of like East coast guys with trucks that have truck nuts on them. So like, yeah, you know what I'm saying?
02:08:59
Speaker
ah Ooh, okay. i like this. Even better idea. No one already run a pyramid scheme and a crypto scam, become billionaires by both the Seahawks and the Sounders. Boom. You guys don't want me. now youre Yeah. You don't want us to own the Seahawks though, because we will
CF Montreal's Mysterious Presence in MLS
02:09:13
Speaker
play fantasy football with that team just because it's funny.
02:09:17
Speaker
yeah Yeah, absolutely. um All right. Unless you had anything else on the stadium discourse, I only had one league-wide storyline really to get to, and then we can wrap it up. We're at what? Two? don't care. I got nowhere to be.
02:09:33
Speaker
ah Well, all I had written down was that CF Montreal fired their coach, which is like, you know, I feel like we have to note it every time there's a ah coach firing. But it is funny that it just doesn't seem like that big a story. And honestly, the only the only reason that I bring it up is because...
02:09:54
Speaker
uh isn't cf montreal like funny like they're just like this mysterious team that i follow them like by far the least of any club in the league and i've been on their like media availabilities a few times over the years and it's all in french and they don't translate it so it's just like this mysterious group of guys who are talking all in french like no one who doesn't speak french has any idea what's going on and then they they just send it out there. Sometimes their team is okay, but most of the time they're pretty bad. And then they just fire their coach.
02:10:28
Speaker
And I just, I saw that they fired their coach and I was like, I forgot that team. was a thing. They're not real and neither is Montreal. I'm sorry. The entire, that entire region where they're like, it is racist if you don't speak French and if you say if you don't say put the French on the sign, you will be deported.
02:10:49
Speaker
ah We do not like Americans. Your French accent's not they're literally it's like bro you live in canada you are not french bro bro think he the colonizer but he the colonized like come on be so for real you're you're so nu i hate i hate montreal dude i've never have you been i've never been no just i've never been i just like you know i don't even have to visit i probably wouldn't even be allowed i don't speak not i definitely not now i'll find this uh here another one from ace well these are good ideas Noonari become cult-like god figures after bringing the NBA back to Seattle after becoming crypto pyramid scheme billionaires.
02:11:24
Speaker
I am down for the crypto pyramid scheme billionaire yeah idea. um Would you guys buy like lobbying coiners or something? NFTs? Are those a thing still?
02:11:38
Speaker
don't know. Your French accent was a hit. Thank you. Thank you. I've heard Montreal has a good music scene.
Turf vs. Grass Surface Debate
02:11:45
Speaker
i don't really know. That's what I'm saying, though. I don't know anything about it. Okay, when you're like just talking to a random person, you're like, who you're from? They're like, oh, I'm from Kansas City. And you're like, oh, that's cool. like What do you Oh, the food's good. We have a great music scene.
02:11:57
Speaker
Everywhere has a good music scene. a It's like, what do what does that even mean? Montreal is supposedly a mecca of that. I don't know. I've never been. I'm just saying. French Canadians are not allowed Seahawks with 600k in attendance last year, Sounders with I think we could beat them that way.
02:12:16
Speaker
Can we get the 100? Yeah, I mean, actually, that's actually closer than I would have thought. That's pretty close. I mean, Seahawks have way less games, but they get they put 70 in there game, and Sounders put closer to 30 these days. So that's actually not that.
02:12:32
Speaker
Far off. Caleb, we're about to wrap up, so might not be the best time crash in. What are you trying to debate? My French-Canadian hatred? i'm gonna I'm actually going to go ahead and hit the lo-fi. There we go. We can start wrapping up here.
02:12:47
Speaker
If you've got any last questions or topics you want us to hit, go ahead and drop them in chat. We'll take you around for a few more minutes. and then get out of here that thank you all for tuning it in and uh bearing with me through the uh minor technical difficulties i got my mic cable back now so theoretically that won't happen again it was funny no i was like uh sitting here getting ready to stream and i was like all right like i know this whole routine now easy i got the lights i got the technology set up i i've switched the input and then uh honestly the feeling of uh
02:13:24
Speaker
starting to stream and then realizing there was no cable was pretty mortifying. But we salvaged. We salvaged salvaed the situation. We had a good show. we had good turnout. We did. it was a good it was a good night. So we always like to see that.
02:13:40
Speaker
Appreciate everyone for hanging out. um Yeah. Yeah. Let's start to wrap up here. Nerd Farmer podcast. Nate, is that you? I think that is Nate Bowling. Shout out, Nate. Shout out. Perhaps this is a dumb question, but wouldn't it be cheaper for the Sounders to buy Lumen outright and manage and themselves and building a stadium?
02:13:56
Speaker
But like, like would the Squawks ever not play there? You know? Well, I mean, they probably would play there, but I think first and goal is owned by the dead guy, Paul Allen, his like sister or whatever, who manages his estate. And I think she wants to sell stuff but they here's the problem they would buy lumen and then they would get overcharged for it and then they would just like there's so many dude lumen is like it's a fine stadium it's all right they're just it's just like it's not exactly it for soccer it's not exactly it for soccer
02:14:33
Speaker
I think it works pretty well. I mean, there's a whole turf issue, but I don't really care about that. I think like my my take on the turf thing is that it's become like they've turned it into an ah part of their home field advantage because other teams are scared of it. And ah other teams have historically like not played their superstars in the game sometimes because they they're like, oh, turf, there's no like Zlatan actually, to be fair, played on it.
02:15:00
Speaker
ah But like there was games where I think Vela didn't play on it. And there's definitely like Steven Gerrard, guys like that. They'd be like, oh, no, no shot. It's like you step on turf and you forget how to kick the ball or something. get that like soft supposedly it causes more injuries, but there's actually literally not, it to my knowledge, statistical evidence for that. People say that like it's a like a proven fact. The happy foot, sad foot guys.
02:15:28
Speaker
Yeah, but like not just them. like people Every time there's an injury in a game at Lumen, people like, see, the turf did it. And it's like that literally proves guys get hurt on grass too. What do we If anyone's got stats that actually show this. I'm sorry, did we not see the poor state of the grass?
02:15:47
Speaker
in at Cruz Azul where it was just like soaking wet and like everyone was slipping everywhere and then you get a non-contact blown out ACL injury from a guy that was on grass.
02:15:58
Speaker
Hey, sorry, guess what? it's It's all the same. There's just no... like if If I ask somebody to go find the stats that prove that turf causes more injuries, you literally wouldn't be able to do it. The the science is not...
02:16:12
Speaker
Like we just don't really know. Guess what guys? It's professional sports where you're running the whole time. You're gonna get hurt. and it was the injuries are a part of every sport. It is harder on your body. Like I've heard guys say like my body feels you do feel it worse after a game on turf than it does after i play a game on grass. most I would say most players prefer grass probably for that reason.
02:16:38
Speaker
But as far as data showing if it causes more injuries or not, that just isn't a thing. And it bothers me when people people say that like as if they don't have to prove it.
02:16:49
Speaker
Like, oh, yeah, well, the turf obviously causes more injuries than the grass. Yeah, I don't know. no it does not Not provenly. Not provenly. On re-wooded play, Beckham did play on it. Yeah.
02:17:04
Speaker
There's been a lot of guys that just don't do it. It's silly. i mean, it's just whatever. It's I don't understand. I mean, i don't modern, especially like modern MLS. If you're like, I'm not playing on turf.
02:17:18
Speaker
what oh my god remember when they laid down the the grass for the manchester united friendly i do and it was the biggest shit show it was terrible that was so like i no one got hurt so i can say this it was really funny because they were slipping and sliding everywhere and there was there's one point where someone was trying to line up a free kick and they charlie browned it like yeah remember that yeah like slipped and launched themselves in the air and i'm sitting there like isn't this stupider than just playing it on turf yeah like what are why were was that for copa or what was that why did they they put it down on copa for copa they put it down for copa and then man you played on yeah yeah it wasn't for me copa was a nightmare dude and literally because like i photographed that game it was like two feet off the ground
02:18:08
Speaker
Yeah. They put it on a rise. It was so weird. That was so weird. It was so dumb. Which is essentially what they're going to do. or I guess they're going to tear it all out. We're really that afraid of turf that we're going to do that.
02:18:22
Speaker
but When they host World Cup games, they're to do that. That's what I'm saying. But I'm saying also like you're tearing it all out. And then they're going to put the turf back in after you have the grass done. why but like the the the copa grass was not like like they laid it yeah it was like a blanket of yeah yeah grass that they just put on top of the turf and it did not work um i don't know why they thought that would work it's one of the worst ideas i've seen didn't work at all they straight up deleted a couple of roads that lumen yeah and people bought those season tickets
02:18:56
Speaker
They literally purchased season tickets that were not there. That's like a whole thing. That's like actually known. They showed up to the game and their seats were just legitimately gone. Sounders sold them the tickets.
02:19:07
Speaker
Sounders were like, oh I didn't know. That's another thing. First in goal did that. First in goal... allowed them to sell that and then they just deleted their seats. They're putting in retractable seats. so like People are dropping turf v grass studies in the chat. I don't see any sources cited.
02:19:24
Speaker
You said found this on Google. All right. Well, I found this on Google. I'll look into it and if I can find any meaningful information to see.
02:19:36
Speaker
Because like, sure, there might be anecdotal like, oh, they measured this. But like... but like There's no there is no scientific consensus is my point. like they might There might be one sample size of data that shows more ankle injuries. I don't know. I'll look into that.
02:19:52
Speaker
But I've never seen anything where I'm like, oh, okay, you're you're statistically proven to be more likely to injure yourself on turf than on grass. I think that is, a yeah, like the NFLPA, what you're saying, they did it to help push their grass agenda. that's the Yeah, they probably skewed that. Grass agenda to the moon.
02:20:13
Speaker
We're going to have to do an agenda check. Agenda check on grass. yeah Jesus Christ. This is the type of dumbass shit that you get into when and you follow soccer. It's incredible. The turf. i like i have ah I love this league, Ari. I have lot of friends like in in the media and ah just random fans. Not to flex. You have friends.
02:20:36
Speaker
But that like are in the... turf is the worst thing at way like the happy foot sad foot they don't know anything guys they're a comedy podcast yeah that's true they're also wait that's actually a really good uh thing i was gonna say they're really close to a thousand subs everyone so if you guys can go and sub to happy foot sad foot you don't have to watch their videos you can put them on mute whatever they're our friends They're literally almost to two a thousand. and When you hit a thousand, you get monetized and they put in a lot of work to their stuff. They come on our podcast. We go on theirs all the time. They're our friends.
02:21:10
Speaker
Please go subscribe to happy foot, sad foot. They're on the road to a thousand, which we know the grind. That shit was, that was tough. I am thankful every day that we made it.
02:21:23
Speaker
Hanauer confirmed that the Sounders will bring in temporary grat. Oh, for the Club World Cup. I guess I did. I did know that, but totally forgot. So it's not even just for the ah actual World Cup.
02:21:34
Speaker
Will be higher ah higher quality than previous. That's just so stupid. they should have just installed it for the whole season. I fucking hate the Seahawks fan. I'm sorry. like You can't be a Sounders fan and like the Seahawks.
02:21:45
Speaker
um That's my take. I am. Okay, well, I'm ah i'm ah i'm an Eagles fan. I literally was a Seahawks fan my whole life, and then I moved to Pennsylvania, and I officially renounced my... i just don't care. i don't care.
02:21:57
Speaker
I mean, that's a better team to be a fan of. ah Yeah, I know. Saquon too. Go birds. Go birds. All right. I think we can wrap it right there as we come up on ah two and a half hours.
02:22:10
Speaker
Thank you all so much for ah for tuning in to another stream. Love getting to do these live shows and interact with everybody. It's a lot of fun. Noah, thank you for coming over with the cable and joining the stream. Of course. I think it actually it ended up making a better show than it would have been without it.
Conclusion and Viewer Engagement
02:22:28
Speaker
So ah shout out to the technical difficulties at the beginning of the show. Shout out to the mic cable, yeah which salvaged the audio. ah If you haven't done so yet, everyone's still here. Everyone's still here.
02:22:41
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02:23:24
Speaker
We're so back. New episode of Lobbing Scorchers on Saturday morning. That's our interview with Oh, yeah. with Yeah, I already already plugged that. But like, oh yeah did let's do a... We can do post-game live, can't we?
02:23:37
Speaker
Yeah, we'll do post-game live because it's an away game. We're going to do post-game live on Saturday because it's an away game. And we're going to take calls. We yeah didn't do that for the last game, partially because it was 0-0, but also because it was a home game and it's hard it's a lot harder for us to line it up during those.
02:23:54
Speaker
but road games it's no problem so we go in live postgame taking calls if you haven't tuned into one of those yet ah they're fun they're fun like we give the link the people call in and you get to drop your takes live on the show so ah definitely stop by for that anything else I don't know blogging surgeries 10 sounders FC podcast crossover one a Zach and Brad give us a call bro We're here. Yeah.
02:24:23
Speaker
We'll do it. I'm reached out to them. Yeah. Yeah. We were just talking about. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. yeah But we'll yeah be there. Yes. Post game live. Maybe I'll even show up here so we can do it together.
02:24:35
Speaker
Yeah, we can do that. You don't have to. Well, I just like hanging out with you. yeah I know, it is a lot. like we're we're actually Someone commented they were like, the best shows are when it's the boys on the couch.
02:24:47
Speaker
There we go. Colton should host the home game pod. Oh, yeah. Well, but he goes to some of the games. We will get Colton in here, though. Yeah. That's a good idea. Yeah, we did like having Coltrane.
02:24:59
Speaker
All right. We rambled, dude. All right. We're out of here. Bye, chat. Have a good night. Have good night. Thanks for tuning