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Scott Rogowsky - From HQ Trivia to Vintage Clothing Maven
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Today’s guest is Scott Rogowsky. If the name sounds familiar, that’s because you’re probably one of the 35 million people to have downloaded HQ Trivia just a few years ago, trying to answer the rather difficult questions Scott threw at us. And while we all may be used to seeing Scott in a suit through the screen of our phones, he’s actually been amassing one of the largest vintage clothing collections since 2003. So much so that he had to open up a store just to start offloading some of it. While he’s in the process of moving the business online, the hunt continues, adding new niches to the ever growing collection including some items from the late Alex Trebek’s estate. Scott’s pretty much seen it all and if you’re hunting for a vintage tee or hat, don’t hesitate to reach out to him, as he probably has it somewhere in the collection. With that said, please enjoy, this is Scott Rogowsky, for Collectors Gene Radio.
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Alex Trebek's Estate Sale Experience
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And then I went straight to the closet and I'm going through Alex Trebek's closet, dude. It was surreal. and I'm like trying to take some video of it. Like I pulled out a couple of hockey. They also knew, that they you know, this is a situation where they knew they had good stuff. He had like dead stock starter jackets, but they were selling for 250 bucks. You know, these hockey jerseys were $250. So that's expensive for an estate sale. I still, I said, I can't, I can't leave with without spending. I probably dropped about $2,000 at the estate sale. What's going on everybody and welcome to collector's gene radio. This is all about diving into the nuances of collecting and ultimately finding out whether or not our guests have what we like to call the collector's gene. If you have the time, please subscribe and leave a review. It truly helps. Thanks a bunch for listening and please enjoy today's guest on collector's gene radio.
Scott Rogowski's Vintage Clothing Journey
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Today's guest is Scott Rogowski, and if the name sounds familiar, that's because you're probably one of the 35 million people to have downloaded HQ trivia just a few years ago, trying to answer the rather difficult questions Scott threw at us. And while we may all be used to seeing Scott in a suit through the screen of our phones, he's actually been amassing one of the largest vintage clothing collections since 2003. So much so that he actually had to open up a store just to start off loading some of it. While he's in the process of moving the business online, the hunt continues, adding new niches to the ever-growing collection, including some items from the late Alex Trebek's estate. Scott's pretty much seen it all, and if you're hunting for a vintage t-shirt or hat, don't hesitate to reach out to him, as he probably has it somewhere in his collection. With that said, please enjoy. This is Scott Rogowski for Collectors GM Radio.
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Scott Rogowski, so great to have you on Collector's Dream Radio today. Cameron, it's my pleasure. Thank you for bearing with my crazy schedule and trying to book me. And I'm grateful that we stuck with it because I've listened to the pod and you're doing a wonderful thing here. Oh, I appreciate that. I'm honored to be a part of it. I appreciate that. I think my audience will know you best from either being the host on HQ Trivia, which kept us all sane for a long time, the running late show, ah the MLB network that you work for, and your company Quiz Daddies in which you sell vintage clothing.
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Yeah, I've been doing a lot of things since I left HQ in 2019. The Quiz Daddies started in 2019 on Instagram. um And one one of those things when I look back on it, I go, you know, maybe it'd been better if I had started Quiz Daddies when I was still on HQ with all those millions of people watching.
The Collector's Gene: From Childhood to Now
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It might have might have helped with the numbers that I'm doing over there, but I decided to wait till a few months after I left to get that going. But it's all right, you know, I i figured it out. All good. And I think it's interesting because I think for any folks that weren't really paying attention, they kind of missed this whole side of you where you do have this massive collection of vintage clothing. I mean, you've actually been collecting since, is it 2003? Yeah, probably before that. two thousand and two I mean, high school, yeah. um you know And this is collector's jean radio. So you know I've been collecting, collecting
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pretty much since I was born. I you know can't remember a time when I wasn't collecting something. So that that whole collector's side of me has probably been the largest part of my identity um for my entire life. And the clothing, yeah, clothing goes back to 2001 or 2002. Baseball cards goes back to 88, 89, you know, comic books, ah paper money and coins and stamps and gems and minerals and fossils and Wheaties boxes and Coca Cola cans and Beanie babies for a brief spell. And know I mean, you name it, I collected it, man.
00:03:48
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or two and one of the same, because that was my household with my brothers and I growing up. It was baseball cards and it was the memorabilia stuff. It was rocks. It was all sorts of stuff that made sense to nobody, but we all had a method to our madness. Absolutely. and now that Now that method is ah being, it's it's all stored in boxes in the attic. That's that's where that's where it's ended up. Would you say your main focus when it comes to vintage clothing is vintage sports stuff, bands, showbiz kind of related? Yeah, so there's there's a couple of aspects to it. I mean, you know, when I first, first started collecting, it was but really less of a collection. I never thought of myself, you know, i i what I didn't collect, frankly, were sneakers, clothing. I never framed it as a collection when I was younger. That was just something I, you know, mall I went to the mall and bought, you know, and
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My mom, frankly, did a lot of the shopping for me, you know, and I was people was really young. It was it was a lot of sports. I look back at photos of me from the 90s. And it's just I'm in Duke, Georgia, Notre Dame, UConn, all these colleges, none of them I actually applied to or went to. But I was a big college sports. And, you know, and and i ah was I was also obsessed with like every new thing that came along. So the Rockies and the Marlins. you know, when they were launching in 93, I had Rocky's shirt, Rocky's hat, like, I'm living in suburban New York City and I'm the world's biggest Rockies fan for some reason, that I, you know, the the Devil Rays and the Diamondbacks. So in 1995, there's a famous photo of me at Cooperstown in 95. I'm there with Mickey Mantle's plaque when he just passed away. So there's some wreaths and some flowers around his plaque. And I'm wearing a Devil Rays hat.
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big maybe five now if you know anything about baseball you know that the devilve rayys didn't start playing until ninety ninety eight right three years before they hit the field i'm wearing the hat and that's of course because they they put the hat out first to make a little money get some of that franchise money back yeah Branding and the locos merch sales but i was like the first person to have a devil race and i was just obsessed with everything new and the and all the grizzlies and the raptors. Those expansions of basketball and the big big country brian reeves jersey statements dot a mire so the sports stuff was big for me but i you know i didn't think of this collecting. I wore it and i guess you know a lot of that stuff from from my child and frankly i don't have anymore.
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So I didn't really save those those those sports. teeth I wish I did, but I guess they were all given away at some point. ah And then once I started collecting, you know shopping for myself in in those early 2000s in high school, I would again, I would buy things for me that fit me that I thought were cool. But the collection started when I would find things at these thrift stores because I would go to thrift stores and get things for $1.50 cheap. And so I find these really cool pieces from the 70s and 80s and you know they didn't fit me or maybe they weren't my style, but I just recognized them as being probably you know unique or hard to find. and So I started buying those things that that didn't fit me or didn't fit my style. And then um that's when I guess you could say the collection really began because
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You know, once you're buying things that you're not actually using in that way, in that utilitarian way, then I could say, well, now I'm collecting. And those pieces just started growing more and more and more as I would go around and travel the country and stop at thrift stores. I started taking road trips just to visit my friend in Boston and stop at 10 Salvation Army's along the
Sports and Showbiz Memorabilia Focus
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way. Right, exactly. I gave myself excuses to go on road trips. wow And then that that's where it just started spiraling and you know to the point where today I have about 4,000 pieces. And you know yeah, do i my personal collection, that that remains the sports realm, specifically baseball, more specifically minor league baseball.
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If you really want to drill down to what I personally personally collect the stuff that I wouldn't sell Are the you know, the Jamestown Expose t-shirt the Vermont is t-shirt like they obscure minor league teams I just picked up some Binghamton Mets shirts recently love that love that stuff so like, you know anything anything like defunct minor league I've got some great hats as well, you know, some of the old like Las Vegas stars, the old brown or the Tulsa drillers corduroy hat I got maybe last year. So that's that's the PC. And also, yeah, showbiz is a big PC for me to anything comedy related. In fact, my girlfriend was just showing me she's a Steve Martin.
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1976 torture. I mean, she's one of the things that we bonded over early on was her love of vintage t-shirts as well. So the very first night I met her, she shows she's pulled out her claws. She's like probably a hundred t-shirts herself. Robin Williams. She's like, you thought your collection was good. Oh, honestly, she has some of the, you know, really great, greatest shirts I've ever seen, including the Steve Martin, you know, wild and crazy guy, like 1976. I mean, one of my to go toe for toe with that is a credibly rare shirt from um this boarding house. It's called the boarding house in San Francisco. It it was like a, it was like a nightclub and and ah in a comedy club. and
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in the 70s and it's where Steve Martin you know launched his career practically. hit His albums, Let's Get Small, Wild Crazy Guy, ah they were all recorded there, and also Robin Williams. so I have a shirt and I got it. I got to shout out one of my plugs, Fine and Dandy Archives in New York City, West 49th Street, Enrique, him and his partner have an amazing vintage operation there. If you're ever in New York City, you want to see like the best, one of the best curated, you know, collections of just, I mean, he's got like two shops and they're both next to each other. And there's the Fine and Dandy, Fine and Dandy archives. They're both vintage and they both specialize in different things. But Enrique's got the t-shirts and clothing side of things. And he had hanging up in a store. i did ah
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Maybe it was a big trade or, I forget what it was, but I picked up this like 1978 fundraiser for the boarding house. I guess they were raising money because it was in danger of closing. And it has all these people there on the on the bill, including Steve Martin and Robert Willie. It says Robert Willie. Oh my gosh. as He was so new. Robin Willie. He used his full name. Well, I think they just got the name wrong. his name His name is Robin, but because he was like brand new on the scene, they printed on the shirt Robert Williams. and I asked my friend David Feldman, who used to perform at the boarding house. It was a big San Francisco comic in the 80s. I said, was there anybody in comedy named Robert Williams? He goes, no, that has to be Robin Williams.
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They just thought it was short was inside joke at the time or they just truly just got it wrong because I mean think about that like Morgan Mindy started in 78 so he wasn't he wasn't a household name by any means he was like an unknown until that show came out and He was just doing shows in San Francisco. And so I'm pretty sure it's like a typo You know that the graphic design team was like this guy's name's not Robin right? It can't be Robin. It's got to be Robert. Yeah Robin, yeah, who's named Robin, especially a guy named Robin, but dude, that shirt is, you know. That's epic. It's one of my all-time prized shirts. Probably one of a kind at this point. It could be. I can't find it, but Erica does have the Steve Martin 76 shirt, so I got to give her props on that. Do you remember the first piece of vintage clothing that stuck with you? Yeah, it's going to be the one that, you know, really
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i that the what what what what got me to fall in love with it. And it's my dad's stuff. So I've heard this from a lot of people who get into vintage. They find their parents' clothing first. And my dad was in a fraternity at the University of Rochester, Sigma Alpha Mu Sammy. And I found his old Sammy like football jersey. Amazing. And that's when, you know, I found that he also had, I think he coached a baseball team in the 70s. And these are called the porkers. The workers and it's got this, it's kind of like this ah hideous brown and orange, you know, color scheme. But it's like 70s polyester material. So I found that. And then I found
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This is also probably a pretty rare shirt. He was one of the original employees of the Justice Department in 1977 when when Jimmy Carter founded the Justice Department, my dad was um one of those early employees. So he has a 1977 Justice Department t-shirt that again, it's like too small for me. I wish it fit. but ah that's what I'm not selling. It's got this eagle on it. It's like kind of like a funny shirt. It's like one of the shirts that, you know, they didn't sell this in the gift store. This is something that something that the employees kind of made for themselves. I forget what it says on it, but it's got some kind of so sarcastic saying on it, but it's super soft, 50-50 blend. So that was a big thing too. When I discover the old shirts,
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One of the hallmarks back in the early 2000s of t-shirts was 100% cotton, very stiff, very starchy. Maybe you remember this yourself. Like shirts were big, the cuts were big, the shirts were 100% cotton, and they were just they just felt rough to the skin. Whereas I'm finding my dad's shirts from the 70s and 80s, and they're made of 50% polyester, 50% cotton blends, and they were super soft. The old ones were paper thin. like they would just start to disintegrate. And I learned i learned since the reason for that, a little well trivia or just some knowledge about shirts, because I have become fairly knowledgeable about shirts in my 20-year collection of them, is the reason why you find somebody's old shirt they must look see-through.
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They're so stretchy and so thin and and you can almost see through the shirt is because the cotton in them has in fact, deteriorated over time, leaving only leaving only the polyester polymers, the essentially plastic polyesters, you know, made from, you know, petroleum oil and it's a plastic
The Discipline and Thrill of Collecting
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fiber. So you have You have that is what remains and why they're stretchy and why the yeah you're you're basically able to see through it because the cotton has has essentially eroded away. So um that's the that's the quality of shirt that you know some people are obsessed with, like the distressed. It's called distressed if there's holes in it or or kind of like ratty like that. But that's become a whole genre within collecting now. So interesting. Yeah. Vintage clothing can be
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relatively obtainable. I mean, you were saying you used to acquire shirts for $1.50, $2. Did that make it easy for you to amass a collection more thoroughly throughout the years or do you think you would have done it anyway if they were $5 or $10? Well, you know what? It's funny. I was so orthodox about it that I would, and know you know, I'm still very like price sensitive, even though I recognize the absurdity of of having these dogmatic thoughts like, well, i can't I'm not gonna pay more than $5 for a shirt. But that was something I actually told myself back then. i if like If like a shirt was somehow, if some thrift store had the gall to charge more than $2 or $3 for a t-shirt, I said, forget it. Or if it wasn't on sale, maybe the shirt was four or five, but you know, they'd have half off days on Wednesdays at my local Salvation Army, or a certain price, certain color tags are half off on certain days. So I would go and
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I mean, there are times, Cameron, it's just embarrassing to admit because you know I have to recognize the fact that I, grew again, grew up in the suburbs of New York City. I was going to a private high school in Riverdale, New York, horseman school. you know wish The tuition was probably at the time like $20,000 a year, okay? Unbelievable. And here I am telling myself, Come on. I'm gonna have to I'm gonna have to come back on the half-off day. I'm gonna hide hurts I'm gonna find the shirts I want hide them in right case in the back of the store and then come back on Wednesday when they're half off and buy them because I have to get a deal yeah i I Completely sympathize. There's something really disgusting and sick about that. But um, but that was my I don't know that was my mentality and I
00:16:43
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You know, it's like you can't pay retail. I mean, there's just something in the blood. You know what it is? It's actually, you know, as funny and crazy as it sounds, it's actually something that I talk about a lot on here, which is having the discipline when you collect, right? It's the idea of not overspending when you have a budget in mind, even if it's $5 versus $10, right? When something is worth something in your mind, you hate to pay. too much over for that thing, right? And so it is this like collecting psychology that that is interesting because, you know, I don't blame you for doing that stuff and for having, you know, a specific set price in your mind of what you think something's worth. Well, there's a couple of things to that, right? um You know, one is, I mean, what is anything worth? Something's worth what someone's going to pay for it, right? That's the old idea. So, you know, when I find something,
00:17:39
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And especially especially if it's not like something, again, because like when it comes to clothing, I mean, yes, i'm I'm collecting in one sense, but especially now when I have so much stuff, I've become very, very discerning with what I buy. And you know because I just can't, I mean, yeah, you could, right? i could with If you have enough money, you can buy anything. So so so so on one hand, it goes, Like some people you have these, like Jerry Seinfeld with his cars, for example. Well, okay. The guy has how much, a half a billion dollars to his name, maybe more, you know, if you have enough money, you can buy and collect anything. And almost like, what's the fun in that? What's the fun in just going into a baseball card store and just going, yeah, I have enough money. I'll just buy you the whole store.
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that's not That's not a collecting my mind. You know, some people are so rich and they they show off with their art, with their cars. but It's like, yeah, I collect cars. Oh, really? You collect cars, you're just a rich asshole. Like, what is it? You just know them all just bought them all. like That's not collecting. um So, you know, yeah, there's an element in that, like, yeah, I could buy every shirt at that Salvation Army, but that's not collecting. Like, right the point is to have the eye to buy what you really want or buy what, and and in my mind, it's like, I'm buying what I find is undervalued. I don't want to pay what something is worth, the quote unquote, worth. In some places, you know, ah and also context matters too. Again, if I'm walking to a thrift store, you're expecting to pay
00:19:12
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two, three dollars. Nowadays, you walk in some of these thrift stores, they've gotten hip to the idea that some of these vintage clothes are worth a lot of money, and they'll have certain pieces, they'll pull out like a Banteo, a Nirvana shirt that they think, just because it says Nirvana on, it's worth a hundred dollars. Meanwhile, it's some reprint from four years ago. right That's worth nothing. But see, they don't even know that. So it's, a you know, all all collecting or valuation, what it comes down to is information asymmetry, which is like one of the great economic principles and maybe you've explored this in the podcast, but that's that's what I pride myself on. Information asymmetry. When I go into a place and I know more than the person selling knows, they don't know what they that what they have is worth X amount. I mean, great example the other day, small example, but I was at an estate sale in LA and books are another thing that I used to collect.
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Not, you know, not in the hardcore sense. I don't really know a ton, but I wouldn't pick up the basics. First editions. Okay. First editions are worth money. Hardcover, worth more than paperback. And then I learned, well, there's different printings. You can have a first edit because I've got, I got burned in a sense. Where I'd say, oh, I got a first edition. And it's the third printing or fourth printing. Okay, so now I learned to look at the numbers. 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. If you see all those numbers in the dust jet on the on the but a publication page, I forget what that page is called. There are names for everything, the but the cover page. And if you see that, and it's first edition, now you have first edition, first printing. So I'm in the estate sale, and I see in the book, and in the library, oh, Anthony Bourdain's Kitchen Confidential, hardcover. Oh, that's cool. That's a great book. I had the paperback.
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I haven't seen the hardcover. Let me pull it out. First edition. Oh, okay. Second printing. All right. Not first printing. Second printing. I go on eBay quickly. I look it up. Boom. It sold for 65 bucks. And it's in mint conditions. Copy. And they're selling it for $3. I said, great. I'm buying it. Nick, would you take $1.50? Well, I mean, at that point, you know, yeah, sure. You have to make an offer. You have to try to make an offer. But I got a somewhat of a, I was getting good deals on the other on the other shirts. And it was one of these places where they're like, you know, I don't know if you've been to an estate sale in l LA, but there you they are professional over there. Right, right. You have to like show up early. Line up, they give you numbers. I mean, it's a whole, going to LA estate sales was a whole eye opening experience. But they have a system where you, you're in each room, they give you a tag, they write it up, and then you bring it to the front. So it's like,
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It was the first day too, so I didn't really give me much much wiggle room. But still, $3 on that book, 65 on eBay sold. So I'm like, great, i'm gonna i I know more than the people selling it. And that principle is what drives all my collecting. Because then you go to a place where, You know, they they they could have they could have had $60 on that price tag. I'm not gonna buy it for 60. If they'd done the research themselves, they could have put 60 on. They could have said, second printing, first edition, blah, blah, blah. A bookstore would go and sell a book like that and have that information. So the context matters. The information is what drives me. And very few times in my life have I spent market value, quote, unquote, for something. And that's if I really, really, really want it.
00:22:24
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And I'm dealing with a you know reputable dealer who it's like either I know it's incredibly rare or just I'm getting i'm getting the market price. So that's you know that's when I'll do it. But for the most part, if I'm hunting, because again, it's for me, it's like the hunt is what it is. It's not the idea of just owning this shirt, paying $300 for a Nirvana shirt that's worth $300. I don't really want that. I don't want to find the $300 Nirvana shirt for $3 when the person doesn't know what they have. Right let's talk about the hunt for a second because it's. Probably one of the most important aspects of collecting and finding these unicorn pieces you know relatively speaking. Is collecting vintage clothing a niche where.
00:23:10
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things that you're hunting after that you know exist are difficult to find, or are you simply searching for a specific team in a band or a talk show or something in showbiz and you know what you're looking for? Or is it still you know walking into a thrift store and seeing something you've never seen before? Yeah, I mean with the clothing again, just because I have so much of it and it and and it gets to the point where i you know I really don't know what I'm doing and all this stuff. I can't possibly wear all these things. you know And the irony is I wear the same eight shirts over and over again. Like I have my rotation, they're in they're in the drawer. I wear them, they put them in the hamper, they get washed, I'll wear them again. I'll just keep cycling through those and then every so often I'll, okay, it's time to get a new rotation going.
00:23:51
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so so you know you think i'd be wearing a different shirt every day i don't even have the discipline to to do that but uh but when it comes to shirts i mean you know again you can go online and if you really want something and there are times where like i'll just like something will strike me like kids in the hall Great sketch show, Kids in the Hall. And I was watching, that I guess they came back for a new season on Amazon a couple years ago. And I started watching the old episodes again. I'm like, man, I love this show. I wonder if there's kids in the hall shirts from the 90s. So I'll do a search and lo and behold, I'll find some. And then I'll find the ones that are priced you know at the $20 to $30 range that I think is appropriate versus the $100 range. you know So ah at certain times I'll go hunt for things like that.
00:24:39
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Or yeah it's like anything else, mut you know music comes to mind and and I'll hear a band, oh man, I love this band. I wonder if they got any good band T's. So things that just strike me, if I'm inspired to search, I'll search. But for the most part, I'm just going to these places, estate sales store stores, and that's the the the fun is you don't know what you're gonna get. And you just don't know what you're going to stumble across. It's it's it's it's the it's the classic, you know, yeah, it's truly treasure hunting. I mean, it's truly what it is for me. It's treasure hunting. And when you're treasure hunting, sometimes you have and a goal in mind. You have a treasure map you're looking for. But it may be more like archaeological digging, just digging for fossils. You don't know what you're going to find there. You start to take the pickaxe and you just start digging. And maybe you find a dinosaur bone. Maybe you find ah an old can, a rubber boot. you You just don't know. but
00:25:28
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Speaking of old cans, I did find it old ah was hiking through Mammoth Lakes a couple weeks ago and I found an old Miller Lite can from the 70s with the bullet holes shot through it. That's amazing. In the desert shrub and I was like, man, I'll pick that up. That's pretty neat. You got that in the trunk over there. Yeah, that won't get you pulled over. yeah I would have to imagine that these brands back in the day didn't keep any archive records of the pieces that they were making.
00:26:01
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Yeah, that's the thing. i right it's it's it's you know I've thought about vintage clothing and t-shirts in the context of sports cards, comic books, in the context of these other collectibles that have very thorough, detailed record keeping. And you know you can find date databases of checklists and all and all that. I mean, with clothing, it's very, very hard to make that correlation because, yes, there are there I don't know how many you know I mean, forget like political shirts, where where you know there are bootlegs, people are making their own stuff all the time. even you know Music shirts, people make bootlegs. But even like an official, let's say, 1995 Grateful Dead, you know soldier Soldier Fields show final show, whatever. Even that, like how many do they make? I have no idea. You can guess, you can talk to maybe Grateful Dead,
00:27:00
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publishing, you know, employees who work for them at the time. And maybe they'll tell you, I mean, you figure if 40,000 people are going to a concert, 50,000 people, you know, maybe, maybe they make 50,000 shirts, maybe they make a hundred thousand shirts, maybe they make 500,000 for the whole tour. I you you just, I just, I just don't know. So like how rare is a grateful, like the famous 1992 Lithuania Grateful Dead Olympic shirt when they sponsored the Lithuania basketball team. And it's the, it's, it's, you know, Jonah Hill was wearing it. A lot of the, by the way, a lot of what drives vintage now is what, you know, what celebrities are seen wearing it. Travis Scott, Jonah Hill was hot for a while in the vintage world. Like who whoever's, whoever, you know, Justin Bieber wears some shirt, whatever. Like that kind of drives the the hype because it's very hype based. But, but yeah, I don't know how many of those Lithuania shirts there are. I have one.
00:27:52
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and and I traded a very rare Mike Tyson shirt for it, and you know for me, I'm a Grateful Dead fan, so it was more important to have the Grateful Dead shirt, which there probably are far more of those than this Mike Tyson shirt that I traded, which on a pound for pound level, speaking of boxing, is probably you know a more valuable shirt market-wise, but I didn't care. For me, like i wanted I wanted that Dead shirt. Yeah, you want the thing that resonates more with you. Yeah, exactly. And, you know, they make so many reprints of that dead shirt, by the way, which is, that's a whole nother issue with vintage that you don't really see with cards or comics or anything else. I mean, I know there are counterfeits in the card and comic world, and and then every collectible is counterfeited, practically. Watches are counterfeited, sneakers are counterfeited.
00:28:37
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but But there's a bootleg element now, reprint with shirts. You go on eBay, you go on Etsy, you type in grateful to the Lithuanian shirts, and you'll find hundreds of listings for that shirt for 20 bucks, 15 bucks in any size you want brand new. Because they're just printing. they're just People are just printing these shirts. today and strop shipping, they're like all Malaysia or Pakistan. It's just bizarre. So, you know, that's kind of, for me, really ruined ah the the vintage thing in one sense. I mean, you've got people walking around wearing this shirt and it's hard, unless you're straight up walking up to somebody, checking the tag, looking at the stitching, it's hard to tell sometimes. Is this the real deal?
Challenges in the Vintage Market
00:29:19
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so if and then And then someone goes, oh, well that shirt's only 20 bucks. No, it's not, dude. You gotta know you got to know what you're which what you're doing. You gotta know the deal to actually know what you have is legit or not. And then you can shame people. You can say, man, you got it you got it you just gotta reprint a repro of some bullshit dropshipped shirt. like you know You have to sort of educate people. And some people care. The other thing is like Target sells Grateful Dead shirts now. Old Navy, I mean, you know everywhere you go, These bands have licensed their material, Rolling Stones and The Who. and you know They've all been licensed to death. Rolling Stones are notorious for it.
00:29:56
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like everyone selling every every you know men's menswear brandy melville every every Every clothing store these days is selling something Rolling Stone branded. Right. and it's like It this doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense. but so you know it In one sense, maybe it makes the legitimate stuff a little more appreciated, but for the mass but mainstream audience marketplace, they don't care. They just want the Rolling Stone logo, the Grateful Dead logo, and and they want to pay as little as possible for it. And at some point,
00:30:28
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And more you know recently within the last few years, you started to sell pieces from your collection. You opened up a store, which is now moving online, conveniently named. Quizdaddies. Quizdaddies. Quizdaddies.com. I got quizdaddies.net. I've scooped up all the yeah URLs. I actually had different inventory on both of those. i'm trying to the The hard part now, Cam, is is getting all these pieces. um My website, I also have an Instagram at quiz daddies, which is where you know i can I've been selling on Instagram primarily, and then people were asking, do you have a website? I said, I don't, I'll build one, spend a bunch of money getting a designer to build it out nicely, and I really haven't used it. My bad on that. it's just It's so hard to take the photos, the measurements to upload.
00:31:14
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I need to hire somebody. If anybody's out there listening and wants to help out a struggling vintage t-shirt collector who's trying to get an online business going, if you if you're good at this, please reach out to me. i will I will work with you. I think you'd be shocked. I think someone will definitely reach out because, I mean, for for for when it comes to vintage stuff, I mean, Do people care about the sizing as much as just saying small, medium, large, like maybe this shrunk a little bit over time? you know Do they really expect you to take all these measurements? Yeah, I mean, you know, to be in gets customer service, I could just throw it up without measurements. But then you have people who are say this doesn't fit. It's well, you know, if I give you the measurements, then then like I, you know, then it's on you. And the mesh clearly a medium, but it's a crop top.
00:32:01
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I mean, yeah, well, the problem is with vintage is that, you know, I think could say extra large, but it's from 1978 and it's now fits like a medium because of a big, the cuts were even smaller, just the maid smaller back in 1978 XL is not a 2024 XL and, uh, and it shrinks over time. So, I mean, that's why I give the measurements because, you know, if I said size at tag XL. Someone who's a current Excel is going to expect to fit into it and there's no way they would. So that's part of the reason and also again, it's just I want to hedge myself against anyone trying to make a return. It's like all sales are final and vintage anyway, but I mean because of this reasons like if you're in a store, you could try it on but if you're online, it's different. I understand that buying online is tricky a lot of people.
00:32:45
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You know, these days buy online, they return, Amazon's losing billions of dollars a year with returns. I can't do that. You can't just do that and have people return things. It's like, I think I've let someone return one thing once and that was because maybe there's some stains on it that I didn't, I forgot, I didn't notice or something. So, you know, I have to be very careful as a vintage seller. to to disclose any any flaws, defects, get the measurements out there, and then the buyer has all the information and they can they can make the responsible purchase if they want it. Do people reach out to you now to source vintage items for them? To source? I mean, in terms of- You know, someone's like, hey, I'm looking for this team this year or this band, this concert. Yeah, people do that and, um you know,
00:33:35
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I'm not act, I mean, i'm I'm speaking for myself right now, my current moment. um Just because I have prioritizing some other things right now, like I'm not currently actively out there hunting every day. I never really did that either. I just never had the time. It sounds like a nice life. And I know people who do, that is like their full time job is they go to thrift stores every day. And they have connections with the warehouses, the rag houses. And they know the people who work at the thrift stores who are getting the the donations and they're sifting the good stuff out and reserving it for these buyers. So there's a whole market now. I mean, it's just gotten so crazy in the last 10 years with the explosion of vintage that ah it's not what it used to be, where I can walk into. I mean, man, my my my favorite stories were just going to some small town in North Carolina and finding a 1981 Rolling Stones tattoo you torture for 25 cents or an 18 1982 clash.
00:34:33
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Tour shirt on the floor for 50 cents. It fell to the floor somehow I mean, dude, I've I've had some incredible fun You just they're so far in few between now because these stores are picked over everybody's looking and a lot of the good stuff gets You know, it it gets ah derailed from the from the whole ecosystem the whole lot Supply chain right it gets deflected because people are picking them out upstream so I don't know, but sourcing, I mean, people will ask and I'll say, yeah, look out for it. But, you know, I'm not, I'm not, um my eyes are out. They're peeling, but they're not like, it's hard for me to actually do it unless I have something in my inventory already that fits what someone's looking for. Right. Well, that's the thing you've you've sourced so much over time. You've amassed such a great collection. I mean, sometimes it was point built. Hey, just, just, just, just here, go to eBay. I'll find the link here. Here's what you're looking for. And you can get, but yeah I mean, like, you know,
00:35:31
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I hate to say it, but there's a lot of good stuff you can find online for if you know how to look. I've i've sourced online. i mean it's it's just ah it's Everybody throws stuff online these days. It's just where a lot of the market is. You told our friend at GQ, Cam Wolf, that you had pickers who pretty much send you stuff, whether it's for your collection or it was for the store. How does that work? Because pickers, to me, is really such a thing of the past. Yeah, well these are some of the people I was talking about, like these, the pickers who are out there, you know, hunting around. And I never really, you know, some of these people would come into my shop. When I had the shop is more, is where it really would've, you know, you had the shop, people expect you to buy, sell, trade. I didn't do a ton of that, but every so often there'd be people who would come in and they were legit, they had good stuff and they would give me a good price on it. Because you have to, you know, if you're going to sell to a store, you have to know that you're not going to get.
00:36:23
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you're not going to get the same price that you would if you were selling at your own store, if you were selling online maybe. So you know you have to sort of work with with with the the the store owners because everybody's got to make a little bit on this stuff. And they're they're out there at the bins getting these things for a dollar and they're selling them to me for eight, nine, $10 a piece. And then I'm going around selling for 20, 30 a piece of work, you know, whatever it is. i see You know, that's, that's kind of how that works. But I didn't have a, I had some people like that in my shop, but, uh, or, or people would hit me up and say, Hey, like my friend, Seth just hit me up. Oh, I found these old hats in my, uh, in, you know, for my childhood and in my God, he's got a Mario paint.
00:37:05
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Mario's Corduroy hat. He's got like Seinfeld on DVD hat. He's got a Forrest Gump movie promo hat. He's got a Wayne's World promo hat. Like he's got some great stuff, an old Phillies logo. And so I'll be like, all right, you know, you trying to sell them? I mean, if you want to give me a a bundle deal or something, maybe I'll buy them from you. But, you know, so things like that will will will happen and sometimes. People reach out, they've got some things they want to get rid of. Um, and I'm, um, if people, again, if people are listening and they want to, uh, they're going through their closet, you find some old shirts, especially the sports stuff, because I do specialize in sports and music, you know, comedy, political stuff. I mean, I love, I love them. My problem, Karen, with the clothing is I can say.
00:37:47
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I have 20 different genres of peace and hate. You just, I just can't, every time I, oh, now I'm like Bar Mitzvah shirts. I want to collect Bar Mitzvah shirts and I'm more comfortable. I gotta, I gotta to find one of mine and send it to you. And I'm wearing one right now. In fact, my girlfriend got this from me, Scott's Electric Bar Mitzvah, May 14th, 1994. So it's amazing shirt. And and I was collecting Bar Mitzvah shirts. So I've got probably about 15 of those. But then I was thinking, oh, maybe I'll start collecting baseball camp shirts. because I found some, i just you can you can go down the rabbit hole of just collecting everything. And and it and it and it gets overwhelming. So I've got to have some self-control over it. but yeah My brothers and I have mammoth New Jersey baseball camp shirts. I think each of us have at least three. Yeah, exactly. Like you find something you like, you know, yeah you know having we all have favorite movies, favorite TV shows, favorite tv shows favorite bands. you You like something, you want to collect it. So it's it's natural.
00:38:45
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I think the bar mitzvah shirt is maybe the most untapped niche of vintage t-shirt collecting. And then i then I think like, oh, I can make a book of these. ah A bar mitzvah. 100%. You know, like at some point, like my buddy Alex is working on a Michael Jordan t-shirt book, because he's got like 200 Jordan Nike tees, specifically Jordan Nike tees. Amazing. And he's putting it, he's been photographing them over the course of a couple of years. He's reaching out to other big collectors. So yeah, man, it's, ah you know, you you you curate something enough, you can actually put, me that's when it becomes like art, right? When you get enough of one thing together and and you've curated it, I mean, this this guy toured with a Grateful Dead t-shirt collection and and it was like a a gallery and he put them, hung them all up, he had hundreds of shirts and and you put them in a warehouse. I saw it in Brooklyn and it's beautiful. So that's when, yeah you know, a collection becomes more than just a collection, it becomes like a museum quality collection.
00:39:43
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Yeah, well, I think that's also the moment that it clicks for people that don't collect or don't collect in that specific area that don't understand it. When they see something like that, then they go, oh, I get it. Yeah. You know, how much does condition matter to you? You know, you're let's say you're out hunting, or you're thrifting, or you're just at a store and you find an amazing t-shirt that you haven't seen before, you haven't seen many of. but it's got some flaws to it or some defects rather because it is vintage. Does that matter to you or you bring it at home? Well, this is something that I've also evolved because very early on, I was very, very cognizant of mint condition, coming from the baseball card world, comic world. I would buy my comics and I would just, I don't even read them. I would put them in plastic, keep them in the sleeve, the cardboard back because it's got to be mint, got to be mint. Everything in that world is mint, mint, mint.
00:40:38
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And then I carried that over to t-shirts. So it's like, dead stock is the best. If it's got the original tags on it, never been worn. You know, for sneakers, same way. But then you realize, and this is where shirts differ. I've learned that people, some people don't mind a stain or rip. In fact, some people prefer a shirt that's all raggedy and torn up. And that is more valuable to them. And people will ask me, do you have any thrash shirts? I want thrash, distressed, the worse shaped, the better. And I'm thinking to myself, Jesus, really? like You're walking around wearing that? It looks awful. But but hey, i'm not you know it's not not my style, potentially, but it's other people. So that's where I did i used to pass up. I'd find amazing... I remember passing like a bow wow, like a little bow wow shirt, but I had stains on it or a Snoop Dogg thing and it's, oh, yeah, it's got a stain. Now I'm kicking myself. I'm like, of course I picked it up now.
00:41:30
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Because they were still four or five bucks. They're nothing. But now, if it's cool, I'm buying it. Doesn't matter what condition it's in. Because A, you know, I i can try to get the stain out or something. i do I do work on stains and trying to work on rehabbing shirts and hats and things. But B, some people just don't care if you advertise. You say, here it is. Here's the stain. Here's the flaw. They'll still buy it. How often do you find something rare, but it's in the most on ideal size for collecting or resale? Yeah, I mean that happens sometimes too. And size, I would say size is more important than condition. You know, something's really small. I mean, something's like a kid size. Doesn't matter how cool it is. It's just like, no one's going to fit. I mean, you know, kids vintage is its own.
00:42:16
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its own sub-genre, and there are people who do specialize in that. I'm not one of those people, um and you just don't get as much for it. But, you know, you'll find a lot of really cool stuff, like, oh my God, why is it so cheap? Well, it's because it's extra small. Oh, okay. you' like I get it. Well, like the XLs, the double XLs even, because, you know, there are a lot of bigger people in this world who collect, and um that's that's where you realize like a double XL is almost like the ideal size sometimes. Now, you acquired a few lots from the ultimate trivia host estate, the late Alex Trebek.
Final Thoughts on Trebek's Memorabilia
00:42:51
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Tell me about this, how it went down, what you got, what you sold, what you kept. Oh man, someone tipped me off to this. I'm so grateful.
00:42:58
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and um it was it was getting It was getting advertised. I guess someone some influencer, some thrift influencer did like some TikTok about it. And so the the word got out about this one, the Alex Chebeccas day sale, April of 2022. And um I showed up. I got there thinking I was getting there early, you know, at like eight. And turns out people there are still six in the morning and there's already a line probably a hundred people deep.
00:43:29
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But thankfully, one of my friends happened to have gotten there fairly early. He got it ah a ticket and he let me go and walk in with him. So I was able to so quote unquote, I was like, cut the line, but I joined my friend online. Yeah, sure. And um we we were probably, I don't know, the 30th or 40th person in there. And it was it was a free for all, man. It was wild. People, you know, while we were waiting to go in, people were walking out with hockey jerseys, Trebek personalized jerseys and all sorts of stuff. I was like, oh, man. That's the shit I wanted.
00:44:03
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All because, but I gotta say I was in there pretty early and I went right for the cloud. The first thing I did pick up was a Phyllis Diller book on his coffee table, signed by Phyllis Diller to Alex Trebek. Amazing. That was pretty cool. But I scooped that up and then I went straight to the closet and I'm going through Alex Trebek closet, dude. It was surreal. I'm like trying to take some video of it. Like I pulled out a couple of hockers. They also knew, that they you know, this is a situation where they knew they had good stuff. He had like dead stock starter jackets, but they were selling for 250 bucks. You know, these hockey jerseys were $250. So that's expensive for an estate sale. I still, I said, I can't, I can't leave with that. spen I probably dropped about $2,000 at this estate sale. I mean, it was, by I got a lot of stuff. I got a hockey stick. I got a Brett Hull hockey stick.
00:44:52
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you know that Trebek must have been gifted. It said Hull on it. I ended up selling that to a big Dallas Stars fan. I picked up a bunch of T-shirts. So that's the thing. I'm in this closet. Then I go to another closet and I see, I open the thing. There's stacks of T-shirts all folded up and no prices on here. And then they had them. Yes. i just I went through these stacks of shirts and boy, I was i got like I got t-shirts from shows that he hosted before Jeopardy, a show called Wizard of Odds. Amazing. And he hosted, so I have a double-sided Wizard of o Odds shirt. There was one that says World Sexiest Game Show Host and Flocked Lettering. I mean, dude, this is stuff that i'm I'm keeping. I mean, i so I ended up selling a lot of the stuff and donating the proceeds to the Less Garden Foundation for pancreatic cancer research. He died of pancreatic cancer. So he raised about,
00:45:48
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What I ended up doing was you know making $2,000, $2,500. It was about $2,000, I think, on on those proceeds. And those well those that was all donated. And and um you know I figured whatever I got, I was able to actually price my camera. I can't remember how much we raised. It might have been more than that. Try to get the figures right. But the point is I i basically made you know you donated this money and then the pieces that I left over, I said, this is this is this is good enough. I'm just going to keep these things and I don't need you know everything from Alex Trebek's collection. and i wanted I wanted people to to to share in that. so That was really fun. We did a live a little live sale, live auction and people got a share
00:46:36
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You know, I got to share in and in owning part of Alex Trebek's collection and Blessgar Foundation made some good money and I was left with a few pieces for myself. So I was like the perfect situation to win win win. Yeah. All right. So before we wrap it up with the collector's dream rundown, I figured what is more appropriate than to create a small little trivia quiz for you based on the things that you love. And so I figured I would ask you a few questions and we'll see how you do. Okay. All right, so these are gonna be based on sports, whether it's met specific or it's gonna be based on things like Seinfeld or fish or stuff like that. Okay, great.
00:47:18
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Who was the first manager of the New York Mets when they began to play in 1962? Easy, easy. Okay, we're starting off easy. All right, in a Seinfeld episode, Elaine gets George a job at Pendant Publishing. And as a thank you, he buys her a very expensive cashmere sweater on it that was marked down from $600 to $85 because it had a dot on it. What was the color of the dot? Oh, boy. Blue, green, or red? Jesus. Um, I want to say blue dot red dot. That's all right. We're going to keep going. you read that Yeah. Which, which New York Mets player still gets paid more than $1 million dollars every year despite yeah easy. if pa need All right. Name every NBA team that doesn't end in S. Wow. This is one of those classics. Heat magic jazz.
00:48:18
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Uh, uh, got it. This is like one of those classic things. Uh, how many are there? just like There's, there's four. So you only one more one more. So it's, uh, I'll give you a hint. Okay. I thunder. Yeah. Yes. All right. What city in Vermont is the birthplace of the band fish? burlington And a bonus question. This one actually stumped the 94% of HQ trivia players. Which of these Disney movies earned the most on its worldwide theatrical release? Tarzan, Pocahontas, or Toy Story? Jesus.
00:49:00
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um It's funny, I wanna say Toy Story, but that might be like the trick. I mean, Tarzan. If 94% got this wrong, then I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say Tarzan. Good guess. Got it. Cause it's always, it's always the one that you least suspect. Right. Exactly. All right. That was, that was fun. Let's, let's wrap it up here with the collector's gene rundown. You can answer this based on any of the things that you've collected over time, whether it's, uh, you know, Campbell's soup cans or it's things from, from the Rebecca state or it's vintage t-shirts sound good. Yeah. Right. All right. What's the one that got away? So I, I was thinking about this and I, man, I'm a big fish fan, as you mentioned, and I've,
00:49:46
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big fish t-shirt collection and the Grateful Dead, a lot of people collect the dead. That collection is sort of, I have my share of Grateful Dead shirts, but there are people out there who are far and away have the the best Dead shirt collections. I haven't heard a lot of people collecting fish t-shirts. They are becoming more and more collectible as I've noticed prices going up. right but i have a good amount of fish. i I want to say I might have like top five fish t-shirt collection in the country. I put that to anybody. And one shirt that I was i was on, so it was like, this was probably four years ago. I think it was during the pandemic. Man, there was some new website I saw advertised, some new platform for selling. Nobody was on it.
00:50:29
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I'm looking through their selection, and there was a fish shirt from like 91. It was like a Smith College bootleg from some early, early show, and it had the band's faces on it, which you you never saw back then. Usually it's the first photo. It was like the band's picture, photo photo of the band with amazing colors. Dude, it was like 20 bucks, and I was watching this thing. It was at an auction, and I was like, I like missed it. I missed the auction close by like a couple minutes. And I was losing my mind because it was like $20. I would have paid $200 for this shirt. And I messaged the thing. The guy's like, please, there any way you could sell this to me, I'll pay the... No, they couldn't do it. So that one I think about and I like looked for it. It hasn't shown up since. so I don't know who bought it, what they did with it, but I've never seen one like that before. So I'm always on the hunt for like rare early fish teas and that one.
00:51:23
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That one hurts. You should email them back and say, would you be willing to you know reach out to the seller and let them know I'll pay X dollars if they're willing to sell it? I think I tried that. and I just yeah and know sometimes people are willing to do it. Sometimes they're not. yeah It'll come back. yeah How about the on deck circle? So what's next for you in collecting maybe something else that you're hunting after? All right. So I've also recently had a bit of a personal transformation, I won't get too deep into it. But I did go to like a retreat. And I did use a lot of, you know, digging deep within myself. And I hope this hasn't put a ah ah bad spin on this whole episode, because what I'm about to say might be counter to everything I've said previously, but I've kind of realized that like, everything I
00:52:13
Speaker
want or need or have, I already have. I don't really need more stuff. so I'm like trying to scale down the purchasing, the collecting. you know My store is closed, so I'm not even really ... I tell myself, oh, I'll buy something to sell it, but it's so hard for me to sell. you know and It's harder to sell a online than it was in the store. so In terms of collecting, what I really want to do now is I want to collect people's names and stories. And I want to be more present out there in the world and and just talk to more strangers and and find out my you know the names of people who are wait staff or work in the hotel front desk or people you interact with that you just normally
00:53:01
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I think about how many interactions you have on a daily basis with people, train conductor, you know of people you know taking your order somewhere, and you just you don't really get to know these people. You just kind of use them for their purpose, which is to help you get food or get a ticket or whatever. But I want i want to just be more present with these types of people, strangers I can run across. get their names, get a little story from them. and And I've started doing this. I have a little notebook now where I keep when I meet people, I write down their name, we know where they're fo where they're from, maybe ah a quote they they said that stuck with me. um So that's been that's been my new collection.
00:53:39
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So I love it. i've I've had people on here plenty of times saying, you know, collecting stories and collecting people. And, you know, at some point you do get content with the things that you have collected over the years. And it's more about, you know, what you don't know about and you stumble upon something at this point. Exactly. And the studs circle is one of my all time favorite writers and who who used to just interview, do this, who just travel the country talking to people. doing oral histories with random people. and And I almost want to, I'm thinking about following his footsteps and doing some of that work myself. How about the unobtainable? So this is one that is too expensive in a museum, a private collection. When it comes to like, you know, cards, um I think more about sports cards with this.
00:54:23
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just because the prices are so much more unattainable. But my dad has a ton of cards in the 50s, 55, Kofax rookies, Clemente rookies, but you know he's got some 54s. We don't have a Hank Aaron rookie, so I'd love a Hank Aaron. 53s, he's got some 53s, but you know we don't have any of those those those really solid 53 players. And then 52s, he had some, but a 52 mantle. I know it's not the most expensive mantle, but that one's so iconic. So a 52-tops mantle is is is is like, that would be the card to have for me. um Even more so than his, you know, 51 Bowman, which is a cool card too, but the 52-tops, I think one just sold for like $136,000, like a PSA 5 or something.
00:55:09
Speaker
It doesn't seem like that. Again, it's like, again, if you have enough money, you can get it. It's all relative. It's all relative. But, you know, a PSA file, and also the PSA stuff, it's a whole other conversation, but I just want the raw card. I don't need cards and gem mint or whatever. Right, right, exactly. Yeah, you're like, I'll pay significantly less if I can get it without that. Exactly. And be just as happy. Exactly. Yeah, I'm with you there. All right. The page one rewrite. So if you could collect anything else, money is no object. What would it be? Bitcoin. Love it. I wish I was collecting Bitcoin right 15 years ago. How about the goat? So who do you look up to as a great collector? Oh boy. I mean, there's a friend of mine, John, the basketball card guy who was just, he's a great, you know, when it comes to basketball, he probably is one of the most unparalleled, uh, collections of basketball cards, and basketball memorabilia. But beyond that, his his ethos of collecting, his mentality, the way he educates others on it, his content around it, he's just, ah you know, he's he's, I think, one of like the best, purest collectors out there.
00:56:19
Speaker
who really does it for the love of the game. And he's very knowledgeable. I can always come to him with with a you know any kind of basketball related question I have. I found some rare basketball card and some antique store for like 50 cents. It wasn't that valuable, turns out, but it was something I never seen before and he he knew all about it. So like when it comes to being a good collector, it's someone who knows their stuff, who's generous with their knowledge and their time. And generous with, you know, their, yeah, I guess like, you know, now it's called content, but it's just like, yeah, just spreading a love and a knowledge of what you do. I think that's the best type of collector you can be. Love it. The hunt or the ownership, which one do you enjoy more? The hunt, 100%. And most importantly, do you feel that you're born with the collectors, Jane? Oh, without a question.
00:57:12
Speaker
without out. I mean, like I said, it's just that the stuff I've collected, man, the stuff that's clogging up my attic right now in my basement, it's troubling. It's troubling. If anybody wants Wheaties boxes, if anybody wants, you know, Coca-Cola cans, 96 Yankees Coca-Cola, I have the cereal is still in there. The soda is still in there. I will let you have this for for cost at this point. So please, if there's anything you want, guys, stamps, coins, plate rolls, reach out, please. I love it, Scott. Thank you so much for coming on Collectors Gene Radio. ah I love hearing about vintage t-shirts and learning more. It's an avenue that can be expanded across so many different platforms and and niches. so So great to chat with you. Thank you again. And we'll get together in New York for for some bar mitzvah teas and and some coffee or something. That'd be fantastic, Cam. It's been a pleasure. Thanks, man.
00:58:11
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All right, that does it for this episode. Thank you all for listening to Collector's Gene Radio.