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Random Thoughts on Life, Tech, and Health
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Are you, are you someone who believes in, like, evolution? No. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard in my life. no let Let's drink alcohol tonight. you Gotta to show your butt hole on the internet. Two things I would love to do. Crying, masturbating. Oh, I do. 100%. No way could I do that. Maybe a little bit got in my mouth one time. What does your rich life look like? I think I would like a house on some land. I want a couple kids. Why would you do that? I don't know, man.
00:00:26
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Do animals, do do insects have leaners? This is a wild podcast. fact We talked about nothing but a bunch at the same time.
00:00:36
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Hey guys, welcome to a new episode. Before this begins, I want to say that my dumb ass forgot to press record on this camera. So for this entire episode, we only have the two side cameras and the amazing audio.
00:00:52
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So it's going to be a lot of jump cuts. We thought about cutting the whole episode, but we're like, no, unless we do it, I don't use this clip. I don't know. So well we're either going to jump into it or this clip never existed.
00:01:06
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Okay, go what we don't what's up guys? Welcome back to another episode of don't be sour friends and family episode Joe Bop it a boobie and this is don't look in my notes, bro all right It's it's that's so rude like would you if you went to talk to the I say the president But you you have all your thoughts about the president if you want to talk to president and you had notes and he like it was like leaning over was you He does have notes. What if he would you look at the president's notes? Yeah I don't know. yeah ah This is actually one of the last episodes you guys are gonna see in this studio, but I'm- Or ever. We're quitting. No, no, no. i'm I'm moving, but I don't think people actually know because I'm gonna make this studio look the exact same, so ideally- Yeah, they don't know. They're gonna look- I feel like I should get rid of this table, dude. This is a $5,000 restoration hardware thing that I never wish I bought. I have some bad news for you. but It's now like 100 bucks? Yeah, like you're gonna get off for like 500 bucks. No one's giving you five grand for this.
00:02:02
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You'll be lucky to get like $800, $4,500. No, i'm I'm moving. I got to sell my dining room table and like all the offers are like 50 bucks. I'm like, that's so annoying, bro. Yeah. By the way, this is my third energy drink today.
00:02:16
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That's not good. What's your, what's your threshold on caffeine? These have 200 milligrams piece. So I i do a coffee in the morning. I want to say my, my venti coffee is 150 milligrams. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. I've lived with Joe and you are just like, Oh, you take two steps to put it down. This isn't like a sexist thing. You're, you were just like all the girls that I've ever seen in my life who obsessed with Starbucks and just like what Taylor drinks half of that every day and then leaves it into condensation just goes down. Okay, assuming I drink the whole thing, that's about 150, then I usually have some kind of energy drink, probably another 150, so I'm at 300, and then pre-workout, so. And you say pre-workout? Some days, so some days I think I'm probably at like half a gram. Half a gram, how that works? Is that how that works? Is that milligram, 500 milligrams, half a gram? Yeah, no, I don't normally drink three, I just really want one right now. How much is in that? One, two hundred. So this would be six hundred. Right now I'm at 400. You're at .6 grams.
00:03:11
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Now I'm at 402. You should go to a a full gram thousand milligrams so Bro, Nabil and like Christian and all them like a lot of editors ah They just like will drink like ten. Well, you build up a tolerance Like if I do this every single day and eventually I got to go two of them. Let me ask you this. Yeah I know it's not good, right? And I'd i'd say around like 400 is probably like the cap of what most people should do based on studies or something. But could you actually have a heart attack if you're just like, I'm gonna have 15 energy drinks today? Like could this drink kill me? Like caffeine can kill you.
00:03:47
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Cause caffeine constricts your blood veins I think, right? That's how it works. I don't know what it does. I think it's a diuretic. I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about. I think it's called like a diuretic. It constricts your blood flow. Diuretic is the word you're looking for? I think so, yeah. That makes you poop. I don't think so. Diuretic makes you poop. That's the point of a diuretic. What do you think, what do you think the x-lax is bro?
00:04:07
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ah A diuretic. It's not a diuretic. If you take a lemon, lemon, if you take lemon, I don't know what I'm talking about. Okay. but I think that's right. It constricts your blood. And I think if you have a heart issue or whatever, like your heart, your heart speeds up to counteract the fact that you're getting less blood to your extremities and it makes everything go fast. And if you take a lemon and squirt it in hot water and drink it, you will shit.
00:04:28
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I don't buy that now. I promise you. I put lemon in my cold water all the time. No, no, no. It has to be hot water.
Joe's New Apartment and Life Changes
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Okay. Because of the science and you put like half of a lemon and you it's a natural diuretic meaning. I don't think that's the right word. All right. Anyway, let's get to the good stuff, dude. What are we talking about today? Well first I feel like we should talk about Joe updates. What's the updates with you? Boom. I was just on this bitch recently. No, no, no. You were on in real time, but this is coming like four weeks after. I move tomorrow. Tomorrow I get the keys to my apartment. That's the big update. Still not making any YouTube videos, coding all day, really bored. The date we're filming this is June 22nd. So by June 25th, I will be fully moved into a high rise and living like a sheep. A what? Sheep.
00:05:13
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What does that mean? I don't know. I just always associate like people who live in town. Like if you live in the city, you're like ah like a sheeple. Isn't sheep like you follow the masses and you do what everyone else does? Now I live in a building with 300 other people. Now I've asked you this ah multiple times on all the episodes. Do you have any regrets? No regrets. Not even a single letter. Not even a house that's old.
00:05:33
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No, I think I'm good. I am having a little bit of concern about the Senna's late night pee schedule. That's the dog. Yeah, my dog likes it too. We do two walks a day and then we do a little playtime in between and then there's like a couple peas in between which is fine, but there's typically like a 1030 I need to pee before I go to bed and that's gonna be a little annoying in an apartment because like 1030 I don't want to have to right now I can open the back door. I'm gonna put clothes on. I'm fine an apartment I gotta like put shoes on can't wear boxers out there. It's gonna be a little bit annoying.
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we're we're We're gonna see, we'll figure it out. du Joe's new apartment is $6,000 a month. No, it is not. Yes, it is. If I didn't have concessions, yes. But with my concessions, it's like, it's a lot. It's it's more money than it should be. Break down how it's not $6,000 a month. Because I got two months free plus... half another month free. okay okay yeah But those two months are upfront. No. It's spread out? Yeah, they spread it out over 15. I did a 15 month lease. So they took that, spread it out over the whole term and ends up being, it's it's much lower. It's like half of what that means. I think that is such, like they do that just to get you. like like They're like, this is originally $6,000, but if you sign right, fucking now, then you can get two months free and we'll spread that out. So it's 3,800. Why don't you just say it's 3,800 or something? No, because it really was.
00:06:49
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It's not, they're making it up. andrew Our friend Andrew used to live in this building and he was paying $6,000 a month. No. Dude, that is so... Yeah, but he was living like a penthouse, wasn't he? No, same unit I'm in. What? Yeah. Why would you spend that much money? I'm not.
00:07:06
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So the issue I'm going to have is at the end of 15 months, they're going to ask if I want to renew it and they're not going to offer me free months. So it will go up to that full price and I'm going to have to get out of there because I i refuse to spend that much money on rent. I got to spend money on stupid things, but like that's a lot of money on rent. That's that's pretty stupid. Some of the stupid stuff. Any new cars? ah No, still waiting for my Raptor R. Still a ah Dodge Ram owner right now. when you went Okay, so you have the TRX and you went to buy the Raptor. when did you when did you When did you buy the Raptor or like put your deposit down? I was one of the first orders. when My order went in ah November of last year and it went into production January 7th. How do we see them on the road, Joe? and Mine got pulled. So initially when they first went into production, they had engine issues. They pulled all the ones that were already built, put them in a lot to wait for new engines. When they got new engines, they just kept building the ones that were on the line and all of ours are just sitting here waiting. So ours would be the last ones off now.
00:07:57
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So it's on a lot. So there's a bunch of them Yeah for six months that black truck has been sitting in a open field in the Sun with I'm sure the paint's gonna be fun No, I probably has this like big white stickers all over it. I'm assuming I'm gonna get this truck and it's already and they just released the facelift yesterday So there's a whole new model coming. No way. Yeah. Oh my god new front-end new back-end new screen Everything's new heads up display now First of all, I hate the heads up a display do call them and tell them that you want I'm trying to I told them I'll buy this one But I only buy this one if they give me a new one I'm gonna trade this one for that one. So I'll buy this one I'll trade it in for the new one Do you ever feel like a lot of times like the people are out to get you? Specifically because like why are other people getting the truck but you don't like for example this hurt This was because I'm a little asshole and I got mine first if I wouldn't have fought them for the first one I would have gotten it by now
00:08:43
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Cause everyone that ordered it later got it. That doesn't make any sense. Because the first couple were the ones that had to pull off the line to address the engine issues. I haven't put them back on. So they're going to let these wait until
Content Creation Challenges
00:08:52
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everything else is done. Then put them back. I think there's still a possibility that someone at Ford just doesn't like you. It's kind of like these podcasts.
00:09:00
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I've done a lot with you and first of all people always like will mention that I like bleep out your curse words It's because Joe says the f-word like every six seconds No, I don't and I'm trying not to get demonetized this podcast doesn't make very much money but like I'm trying to make whatever money I can in episodes like episodes with like Steve Cook but Oz my you know my film film er freaking Random ones will get demonetized, but then, like, Joe won't get demonetized. Like, I don't understand. People are out to get me. Dude, the Fresh and Fit one got demonetized, and I bleeped out every single curse word and, so like, womanizer slur in the whole episode. I'm a strong believer the automated thing isn't what's getting you. It's, like, it's employees that are pissed off. It's, like, your video. People that don't like the Fresh and Fit guys reported it. And then, whoever reviewed it at YouTube was probably like, oh, I fucking hate these guys.
00:09:52
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I feel like that's what's happening here. If people don't know, your YouTube video will get sometimes automatically flagged as not appropriate for all ads, and you'll get a yellow little dollar sign, and that means you get limited or no ads on your videos. Basically, and then that stops the growth, because why would YouTube push a video if it's not gonna get ads on there, right? But then you can go in and be like, I would like to manually request a review. You can't put notes or anything. You can just be like, it's- I think you're wrong. Yeah, I think you're wrong. Manually review this.
00:10:21
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and people and then you'll get and then you'll get a and like ah Alert sometimes really fast sometimes like the next day and it's like we've manually review this and it's still not fit I'm like You sat have any of yours been reversed like anyone's that you've asked to be revert. No, you're just getting bad luck No one I did i think the jazzy podcast one ah The jazzy when we talked about like only fans a lot But then I did an episode with Claudia where we talked about only fans about why she didn't want to do only fans can't do that and It got demonetized. Yeah, you gotta show your butthole on the internet. ah well Otherwise you're not cool. Oh my god, dude. Okay, speaking of showing your butthole on the internet.
00:10:58
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We gotta talk about, we gotta talk about Alpha Land, okay? Let's do it. Cuz, cuz, cuz this, this place is, first of all, amazing. Yep. Okay? Christian built something that I think is unlike anything else, but it's getting a little out of hand sometimes. It's a little too popular right now. It's not an, it's not only too popular, it's too popular with a very specific demographic of people. Explain.
00:11:21
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It is very popular with the 17 to 23 year old influencer, hyper, better yourself, need to document everything in life crowd. Everyone in that gym has CEO in their bio. Everyone in that gym has 25 different fucking YouTube accounts where they're teaching you how to be a stock trader or whatever. Again, I promise you, the number of broccoli hair haircuts out there, wild. Everyone's got young, young LA, there's gold chains everywhere. There's sunglasses on like cross earrings, dude bro. it and And you got to watch where you're walking. Cause you, I was like, I'm going to go use that bench. I'm walking through three people's videos. It's like, why just work out. Just work out. Yeah, but okay. Okay. okay it's It's a double-edged sword bro because this place was designed to allow all of that and And I guess like we do go during the more popular times, but we were at five yesterday though Yeah, and it and it gets ridiculous and obviously we work for ourselves we can go whenever so it's really hard to complain and and I'm not trying to complain because again, it's like I do the same thing, but I guess it's like I
00:12:20
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e It's just it's it's a unique experience because when you come to this gym any given time there will be 15 tripods in the gym like I'm not talking about like little handheld ones I'm talking setups full extended 65 inches like my penis. Everyone's miked up. Oh, yeah, everyone's got wireless mics on them And there'll be the I've seen multiple people like the whole workout their live streaming that that's it's why And they'll carry around the tripod while they're live streaming just talking as their wall. And again, it's like, I don't care. People do people making their money, but it's just it's a it's a spectacle to see. I i had this conversation the other day. You think the whole like I see like live streaming while working out and I'm just like, that's not cool, but I want to use a different word, but I'm going to. But do you think that like there were stuff that I did when I was like 15 that I'm sure my grandpa was like, that's not cool.
00:13:13
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Is live streaming like talking to your audience while you're working out? Like is it just cause I don't understand it that I'm like, that's not cool. Or is it actually just really lame? And we're gonna have like in a couple of years, everyone's gonna be like, nah, it's pretty lame. No, I don't think, I'm not talking about how it's like, it's not, I don't consider it lame. Oh, I do a hundred percent. You're talking to a phone, like asking them for likes and stuff. This is very lame. But there's people, there's people watching and there's people interacting. I am, okay, maybe.
00:13:34
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I don't know. No, don't don't say there's probably five people on this. I don't know. I'm not going to say anything. to ah yeah i'm I'm all for everyone. But I guess the point I'm trying to get is that like Alpha land is like an interesting space because it was designed for people to come and film. And that is exactly what has happened. And now it's like I think people that just want to work out are kind of like. Yeah, if you come in here and like want to just work out, it can be a little. Oh, yeah. If you're like a professional 35 year old business guy that has a membership here to come work out, like you're you're not going to want to come work out here after the first time, you're like, that's not for me.
00:14:03
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Let me ask you this. ah Everyone out here is obviously trying to make it and the and the the the influx of people that are trying to be content creators and try to do exactly what like I did back in the day. Film yourself in the gym and thankfully they have a gym where they can go and not get kicked out. and you know be shirtless and film content and do whatever you want, right? But sometimes when you have so much free reign, there's no structure to it at all and it's just chaos out there. um But that's get it's it's mainly like the peak time, so I'm just kind of- Five o'clock, which I don't want to be a hypocrite here, but we go at like normal times. Sometimes we work out at 1 p.m. on a Tuesday.
00:14:41
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And it's still, and in my back of my head, I'm like, does anyone have a job? Well, there's no way everyone works from home. And even if you do work from home, it's one o'clock, you're not off at one o'clock. It's always confusing me when there's, no, it's not one o'clock. Lunch break's like 11 or 12 at latest. That always blows my mind when we come work out at like 9.45 on a Wednesday and the gym's packed with like younger kids. And I'm like, too old to be in school where they're like on summer break, but not old enough to be like rich as shit. I can't figure that one out.
00:15:09
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I don't know how there's thousands of people working out here at 9.45 on a Tuesday. like It turns out that there's more people than just us that are successful, Joe. I guess. I don't know, man. but Or they just don't have jobs. Listen, I'm all for people trying to make it on social media, right? Because I know the struggle. I know the journey. And there's different it yeah there's different there's different like ah benefits and cons to like trying to start now. um But with everyone, I think the dream of being a content creator whether whether whether you love it or hate it, Joe, ah is a thing that is very desirable because of the freedom, maybe the popularity, the clout, free stuff, like all the benefits from it, right? um not Not getting into like the downsides and you know working for yourself and everything, but at what point do you think that people, like if you're trying to make it, at what point do you stop trying to make it? You don't. I don't think they do.
00:16:06
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Like I'm not trying to like crush people's dreams, but like do you, at a certain point, if it hasn't taken off and you're not making money, but like, but look at, look at like a Mr. Beast. Most, the richest dude on YouTube, most successful. And he made you videos for years and had no growth at all. I don't think there's a time to stop. I think if it's your, I think that look, the difference, if you're a professional and that's your side gig, I think you can do it as long as you want. And someday if it pops off, it pops off, it's great.
00:16:34
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I think for the people that like moved here to become fitness influencers that are like burning through their savings, you got to either do it pretty quick or decide to go a different route.
Career Reflections and Entrepreneurship
00:16:44
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but We've met people that have moved to Houston just to go to Alpha Land because they want to be fitness YouTubers. and it's like after about a yeah um and so After the first year, if you just burn it through your savings and you're not growing any kind of social media following, like it might be time to try something else.
00:16:57
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Yeah, but I think i think the the possibility of, yeah you know, if I just make one more video and that's the, that's the I guess that's the the question I'm trying to get to is like, when when do you when do you go for something and and decide to, and I don't like to use the word give up. I don't want to say ever. I think things keep going.
00:17:15
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Because YouTube is that one weird thing where like if you're really trying to make it in like a professional sense, you either slowly grow up or not. But like there's in YouTube, you could post 500 videos and never get a view and one viral one jumps you to 50,000 subs and now you're on the front. I mean, it's it's hard to be like quit now because maybe a year from now that one video gets you your fucking your following. Yeah, I don't think people should quit. I think, I guess for me, it's like, it's, it's interesting seeing, like you said, people like during the day and this is their full time thing when maybe, you know, they're not making that much money is whereas I was like, I worked for, I worked for in a corporate world, did it on the side. And only when it became financially so stable, did I, did I leave rather than kind of like going in with a hope and a dream and scraping by, I was like, nah, I'm going to keep doing my job. I don't think, I don't think there's a time to quit.
00:18:00
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I think there's a time to maybe re-align your content if it's not working. Like I see all the time when we're working out, there's 15 dudes doing epic back day workout at Alpha Land. And I'm like, that there's 8 million videos on YouTube already. I don't think that Bob in Stafford, Texas is going to invent some new revolutionary back workout. Like no one wants to watch that. I think after your 17th like back day workout that's not getting any traction, maybe it's time to pivot. Maybe do something a little bit more specialized or move into a different field. I don't know.
00:18:27
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I think that's probably the bigger issue is like people aren't getting a following and they just keep doing the same things. and it's like That doesn't work anymore. On YouTube, I don't think that's the way to get big anymore is to just like live stream your workout. I don't think it's going to work anymore. i mean i See, I'd like to agree with you, but I have not changed my content at all and it's continued to go down and I complain about it and then I refuse to change any of my content because I'm just like screaming at the clouds. what do what do you think the lifespan like Let's say you do pop off. like What do you think a realistic lifespan on a content creator is?
00:18:59
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I'm gonna say five years. You mean like on on average people who like find success? i'm gonna say I'm gonna say hyper success, like five years. Like even people like Casey Neistat, like very successful, like are you and Olsen, like very, very successful, but eventually you do see it start slowing down. Even like Peter McKinnon nowadays, like he's posting a lot less and his views are not anywhere near where they were at its peak. I think you got like five years of like really, really, really good success and then you either need to kind of change it up or kind of retire.
00:19:24
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i think that's I think that's pretty much what I experienced. Five years. Yeah. I mean, I started 2013, and I'd say Yeah, 29 teams were gonna launch Sour Strips and that was like the peak of my, I didn't know it at the time, but that was like the peak and that was like six you know five six years. So maybe 10. Like Casey's probably the first person that'll make it like, he's still relevant. Like he posts the other day about the vision thing and that got like four, like he's still posting videos that are still trending and he's been doing that for fuck. I mean, he was like the first guy to really make vlogging like really, really famous.
00:19:58
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I think like I guess sometimes I get in my head of like, yeah you know how you've heard people say like, well, I'm i'm not gonna vlog when I'm like 40 or something. But then again, you look at Jason, I stat, he's 40, right? He's got to be in his 40s. At least. Yeah. It's like you look at his older people who like, I don't think age is when you like have to stop. oh do I follow. There's a couple of tech reviewers there are like 60 that I still watch the videos. You watch 60 year old men on the internet. Yeah, sometimes. Hmm. Six year old men in my area that want to chat.
00:20:24
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Click the ads, now is this this damn spyware, dude. um you know It's interesting, like everyone wants like the success, and then like as you as you continue to grow, you kind of stop doing as much. I mean, look at like myself and Christian, we're not we don't like do the same level of output.
00:20:41
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as we once did because we kind of move on to other things. I think what's interesting to me is the people that have been able to take YouTube and turn it into a multi-million dollar corporation in the YouTube space. So mostly in the tech space, Linus Tech Tips, they own like 17 different channels. They're all successful. Or MKHD or whatever, he has four different channels and they have a full production team, they have set studios, all like Mr. Beast, same way. It's like people have taken the YouTube platform and turned it into almost a,
00:21:10
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almost like a TV network, like almost like Fox or ABC or whatever. Like MKHD has a whole network of people working together now. And it's like, that's wild. Like you built a multimillion dollar company inside of YouTube. I think the dream is just people.
00:21:23
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What's your thoughts on like people thinking the dream is working for yourself? Because obviously we do, love it, wouldn't go back to like, i mean what? Most of what I do is freelance contract. I don't work for myself. I get yelled at all the time by people. like I got technically worked for myself on some projects, but I'm still trying to get a product done. I mean, even you, Sour Strips, you work for yourself, but if you miss the fucking big shipment to HEB, they're still chewing your ass out. Like you always work for somebody. Yeah. Like you still have responsibilities to meet and someone's gonna be pissed off you if you don't do what you're supposed to do.
00:21:53
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Hmm. Why do you think the dream is like to like fully work for yourself? I guess I guess it's the freedom I think it's a clout. I think most people just want to say they work for themselves I don't think they care like I don't I have friends that make four or five hundred thousand dollars a year working at like Amazon like AWS and stuff They don't care. No, none of them are like, oh, i I wish I worked for myself for a hundred grand like they're making so much money They don't care III hate the stigma. I don't know if it's stigma about right word, but I hate the like connotation around that like It's like you have to escape working for the man like you can't work for someone else I don't really think there's anything and I'm people are gonna say just cuz I you know have employees like I think there's nothing wrong with working for you but like at a certain point like if you keep working for yourself you're gonna need people to work for you and like do you think the people that say like
00:22:39
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financial freedom, work for yourself, don't go to the corporate grind, like they have no employees, they have no one helping them. Like, well. Well, eventually they will need it. And then that's when it kind of. They're like, no, no, no, you should work for yourself, but like, but not the people that work for me. Yeah, they can work for me. yeah like they're They're fine working for me. Yeah, I don't think everyone's supposed to work for themselves.
00:22:55
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Same way I don't think ever supposed to lead. I don't think if if tomorrow is zombie apocalypse fucking breaks out. I don't think everyone needs to be the leader of their group. Like obviously won't work. There's usually going to be one person that we are like, okay, this person, I mean, even in the US, we have a president, we have governors, it it always stems up. Like I don't think every single person is meant to be a leader and run their own company and do everything by themselves. Do you think it takes a certain mindset to do that? You don't think everyone can be an entrepreneur? I don't think as this sounds shitty, I don't think everyone is meant to be the queen bee. I think there's worker bees and it's how society works.
00:23:25
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I think some of it's luck some of it's just shitty like bad timing I mean there's a lot of factors that work into that, but I don't think everyone is meant to be their own boss I mean, fuck, they definitely not. but What are we gonna do when there's eight million sour strips company? Like you can't be so many, you know, like it doesn't really work. But I will say I have friends. I think it depends on how much freedom you have your job, how into your job you are and how much money you make. Like friends that, like I said, are making 400,000 with AWS. None of them have ever said like, Oh man, I really hate working for the man. They're fine. They're happy as can be. But if you're working on the assembly line at Amazon, you're probably like, fuck this, this really sucks. Like, you know, I think it depends where you're at.
00:24:00
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Yeah, i think i think I think the problem with like the future of our society though is you look at people on the internet making stupid money and they they they think that is normal. like They think that making hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dollars from selling a course, starting an OF, like yeah working for yourself like something they did it why can't I exactly so they think that like working for someone else is like beneath them which is like the problem then no one wants to work because everyone's like no I'm gonna try to work for myself and then no one wants to social media as we all know now like social media is such a
00:24:38
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fake thing in the first place like you don't see even the people that are working for themselves like you don't see all the days that they're fucking down and pissed off and everything's not going right like you even you I know there's days where you're really fucking and pissed off about something and then you pick up the camera and hey guys what's going you know there's yeah you missed that side of it and social media is so good at making everything look perfect all the time everyone people see that and'm like I'm having a bad day max never has a bad day why don't I want to do what he does Everyone wants all of the success, but they don't realize like especially like the I think they see it the bigger Bigger you grow the more headaches and annoying shit you deal with that like you don't see because you don't unless you tell everyone all of the problems that you know like there's a lot of shit that going on in the background right now that I like Legally cannot talk about that I'm dealing with I don't wanna smash my head against the wall that I'm like I never would deal with this if I just
00:25:24
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yeah Worked for someone else. I would have to deal with other shit. Yeah, but the upsides are obviously there and but like you see that you see the stress I mean look at you know Christian or the well with the lack thereof when we look at Christian because we you know Don't see him as much and that's my basketball four days ago. He started typing That was it the bubbles popped up. They went away. I never got a response I'm still waiting dude. What's your thoughts on a big question? I always get is like how come we don't ever like hang out with all of the people that like, if you go back five years on our videos and see all the we call the squad, success, infrastructure, company size, I think a lot of our friends are now getting so busy with shit that like they just don't. It'll be a time to be friends. It sounds shitty, but I get it. And if I was running a half billion dollar company, I probably wouldn't have a lot of time either.
00:26:16
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So the fact that you and I hang out all the time, does that mean we're poor?
00:26:21
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he you know I think it's a different, I don't know. It's a different place. I think also maybe we value it a little bit more. I think it also, I guess how you look at it. I look at like what I do for a living and I'm like, Oh, it's it's cool, but I still value everything else. But if I really want to take that to the next level, I know how much time and money I had to put into it. I don't have time for everything else.
00:26:39
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I think someone like Christian has looked at Alphalete as like, that's his baby. He's gonna get this thing to a billion dollar company. So now he is willing to just put everything into it. Like I haven't decided that about software company. I'm not like, I'm to the point where I'm just gonna only do this and not talk to anybody else and own like, I'm not there. I've kind of accepted honestly, like how busy everyone is. And then like, i I kind of like understand my relationship with people and how I can interact with them now. Example is like,
00:27:06
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Christian it's like I don't I don't hit him up to go to sushi that tonight or like be like hey, dude Let's go get a margarita and some fajitas because I know he's gonna say no. Yeah, so it's almost like I've stopped Even trying. Yeah, ah i I'm like hey bat. I know he likes basketball. So I'm like, yeah unless I Break into Christian's office. I'm pretty aware that like unless we bump into each other I am saying I'm not I'm not talking to Christian at this point Yeah, I guess it's just different like mindsets cuz like in in my head. I'm like, what's the point of like?
00:27:35
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And I'm not trying to like just talk wouldn just talk about Christian, but like yeah I guess I'm someone that like no matter how successful I get, I want to make sure that I do all these other things, whereas a lot of people are like, hey, my enjoyment doesn't come from going to get Mexican with – my enjoyment is you know building these companies, and the bigger you grow, the more headaches and stress that you're dealing with that it's like I literally don't have time to go – do this thing with you because I have you know my company significantly larger so it's kind of like sometimes I i don't want my companies to get so big because i I I look at a lot of individuals around me who are doing really big things that I admire them but I'm almost like
00:28:15
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is that Is that what it's gonna look like if when I get there? And I don't know if I want that. I don't think there's also the matter of like finding the right team. Yeah. Because if you have the right people, and I think that's something that Christian's had a hard time doing. likeve There's been people come and go. like He has a hard time finding the right people for Alphalete to really help him out. You don't know why? It's because everyone wants to work for themselves, dude. That too.
00:28:33
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Where like I look at my dad, my dad owns a cabinet shop, he has 350, 400 employees. And he's still able to like, hey, let's go to dinner tomorrow, whatever, you know, like he's he's able, like he has a lot more probably overhead and stress than someone like Christian does. yeah But he's still able to have that but he has, you know, for the last 20 years been grooming the right people to put in the right spot. So he can step out for a little bit and come back. Can't say grooming, dude.
00:28:56
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can' no notroom okay i just i just want I just want to say that I do. I do wish things were different in our eye that when I go back and look at like four or five years ago and I see our entire squad, you know, k Christian Charlie, Daniel Darr. I mean, everyone like did the whole squad and like it's almost like I want to relive that.
Life Beyond Work and Material Success
00:29:17
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Yeah, I dude I didn't you know, whatever like I miss everyone. That's like what means is do you miss going out? Cuz I can genuinely say I have no desire now like on a Saturday night at like midnight when I'm like in my bed watching a movie I'm never like fuck I really wish we were at clay right now like partying it up like I can think we did that every weekend for a very long time and now I have no desire to do that Joe meant to say is when he's like on Saturday night when he's like crying masturbating. Yeah yeah But like I'm, i I don't know what happened. I'm like, I'm turning 29 next week. Maybe that's it. But like, I have no desire. Like when I see the younger guys, we know like Marco and those guys like post at the club. I'm like, I have no, none of me is like, fuck, I really wish I was at the club right now. Like I'm, I'm good. I did it. I've been there. It's fine. Well, after the hundredth time, I think it's, it's just the same thing. I never got the whole club thing. Like, oh, let's go sit in a booth where we can't hear each other, but we're going to talk to each other, but we have no clue what each other are saying. And occasionally someone's going to give us a shot.
00:30:09
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You know, ah to be honest, the actual whole concept of going to ah a club or bar is actually pretty crazy when you analyze it um from ah from an outside because it's like,
00:30:21
Speaker
if us and five people want to want to be like, dude, we let's let's drink alcohol tonight. And we're like, okay, cool. We all want to drink alcohol. We all want to get even drunk, listen to music, whatever. Like we could do that at our house. yeah But you're like, no, no, no. We want to go to the club, right? okay you seen at the club though yeah yeah So you go to the club or the bar, whatever. And then you're buying the same stuff you could literally buy for half the price of your house.
00:30:46
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And unless you're a whole group full of single people, right, you're only talking to the same people. Yeah, no one's picking up people at the club. Very rarely does someone leave the club with someone and come with us. Yeah, but the crazy, you know, it's even crazier. It's like you go to these places and you want to go to a ball, oh'm excuse bars, you want to go to a bar that has.
00:31:05
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Some people, but not too many people, even though you're not gonna talk to any of them. yeah And you don't want, and but but you don't want it to be too packed, but it can't be too dead or else you're like, whoa, this place is dead. Even though you're only gonna talk to the same people that you went with. I mean, even crazier than that, we're gonna buy six drinks at the bar for a hundred bucks. Or we're gonna do that in the form of a bottle in a booth, $4,000. I will say that. Now we get to sit at the booth with our feet on the thing, we sit on the sides and we can take pictures and like,
00:31:34
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The club is a wild concept. Yeah, but there's something about like being in there. like when the When the drinks start kicking in, I'm having a great time. There's there's a 10-minute period when I'm at the club, and I'm like, fuck yeah, this is sick. But it fades real quick. Then you got, especially for us, we got that hour-long Uber ride where you can't hear anything. Everything's ringing a little bit. You're usually passed out at this point, so yes you don't have to deal with this. But I usually have to sit there and just i can't hear Uber driver's time to talk to me. I have no clue what the fuck's going on. It's it's interesting how like the older you get,
00:32:02
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i mean like you you You hear it from older people, right? That you're like, oh, like you're going to your mindset is going to change on this. yeah there You're going to stop liking this and you're like, you're fuck off, dude. But it's it just happens. Like i I definitely I trust me. I love getting you got blackout drunk every weekend. I know. And then you'd be up at 7 a.m. on the treadmill. Yeah. Pretty clockwork, actually. No hangover. 7 a.m. Like nothing ever happened.
00:32:26
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No, I don't have a hangover, dude. Sometimes, but sometimes no. Sometimes you're like, hey, let's go to the gym at nine o'clock the morning after you literally blacked out. i I definitely don't. I haven't really been like drunk drunk since that time when I threw up a bunch of blood for Taylor's birthday. sort like Yeah, you got us kicked out. I never got my hat. Yeah, I puked inside Club 11 on a stripper.
00:32:47
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Well on a woman of working woman, I mean she was like our hostess or whatever probably I don't know All I know is I convinced one of the girls to go get me a hat waiting for the hat I hear a bunch of commotion I see a big bouncer grab someone and next thing I know it's max and I'm like, hey, can I get that hat? and They're like y'all need to fucking leave and we're just like, okay That's because I never got my 11 because I threw up yeah I think as you get older, yeah, you stop really caring to go to the club. I mean, I'm probably going to go to some clubs. I'm sure. yeah Yeah. Especially if I'm out, like if you're like, hey, let's go to Miami, like I'll go to club Miami or whatever. But like the whole Houston every weekend, we're going to meet our friends. like I'm good. I'll go to a bar. I'm cool going to a bar where we can like converse. But the whole like, let's go with super loud music where we have no clue what each other are saying. Like for what?
00:33:28
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what's What's the point, dude? What else is gonna change when you get older? I don't know. Interests? I think I'm gonna say insurance. I mean definitely AARP, dude. Yeah, like at what point do you start birdwatching?
00:33:39
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my my mom My mom has an entire book and a pair of binoculars. She has a whole book of like Virginia birds and just like, so when a bird pops up on her porch, she like looks at them and analyzes it. So and I love my mom because she's gonna watch this, but my mom retired recently. but Within like six months of her retiring, I've just got like the weirdest, she's making her own bread. She's making ice cream now. I got a text about some caterpillars she found in her backyard. Then she's telling me what kind of caterpillars there are. Then they're gonna hatch next week. I'm like, this is what retiring looks like? like you're Documenting the caterpillars in our backyard, which is cool. I'm all for it. But I'm like at what point are you like? All right, I'm gonna start watching birds I'm really gonna buy some binoculars, you know the same way you analyze that it's like if you went into a coffee shop or whatever and You you look across and imagine if there was someone there not on their phone not reading anything Just like just like sipping coffee and it's like staring around you kind of be like what the fuck is wrong with this person, right? Yeah
00:34:33
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like you you You find it strange that when people are doing like not doing certain things, because you think you like have to, right? And it's like, even when people retire, they're like, oh, I always have to be like working on a project. And it's weird to be like, what if you just chilled and made bread and stuff? Because like is life the purpose of work? And it's like, if you know if you already find financial success, you've already built a legacy, you've already made an impact, you've helped change the world. Imagine you've done all that.
00:35:01
Speaker
Can't you just make bread? Watch some birds. I'm saying right now, on the record, I have no desire to watch birds. But 65-year-old Joe might love birdwatching. Let me ask you this. 65-year-old Joe, yeah I'm assuming most people, and i don't i don't mean um I don't want to say this, but a lot of people want to have financial success. but We'll say substantial if possible, right? Most people want to retire.
00:35:25
Speaker
Yeah, and and and and have but not have money as a a worry. yeah Yeah, like retire and just live life. There's this guy that i I recently found. His name is Ramit, and he is like a... I don't want to call him like a money therapist, but he's like a money... He's like a money guy, but he talks about kind of like just a different perspective on money. Not like a guru type of way. I mean, I'm sure he's making money from doing stuff. I've i've DMed him a whole bunch of times. He's not responding to me. I want to go on the podcast. Ramit. Yes. Damn, dude. Anyway, big question he always asks is what does your rich life look like? So you're trying to acquire wealth, whatever, so that you can have it. What does your rich life look like to you right now?
00:36:09
Speaker
Yeah, like in in a in a perfect world, later in your life, you have all the money that you desire. okay what like What are the things that you will start doing because you because you have the money? I don't think it's material things for me. I don't think I'll do anything differently. I really don't. I mean, maybe it'll change later, but like I'm not the guy that like I have to go see the world and travel everywhere. like i'm I'm good.
00:36:28
Speaker
I think I would like a house on some land. I would like to have some land. I would definitely want probably 10 cars. takeed Yeah. Why would I like to have a little workshop like a little like a house with like a detached garage, of the workshop and it stuff. That's that's my, you know, I want a couple kids. Where are you going to put 10 cars in like a bar? I want like a like a side barn to the house.
00:36:49
Speaker
Like right now, if you gave me $100 million and were like, go, like I'd probably spend 20 of it on the house and cars and shit, and then the rest are just gonna sit, like I'm good. I have noticed, I don't think I want a yacht. I don't want a plane, I'm good. Yeah, I think people don't need as much money as they think they do, unless you want to live that like yacht life. yeah I want a new Rolex every week. I don't think I'll ever be that kind of guy. I don't think, no matter how much money I make, I don't think I'm ever just like new watch every week. new I'm already in new cars a lot, but I'm good.
00:37:18
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. How much money do you think you need for you to be like, I have like, like take out the like, I want to keep working to like grind, whatever. What is the dollar amount that you think you need in your bank account collectively to be like, to be like, I have enough money.
00:37:37
Speaker
Honestly, 10, $10 million. dollars Yeah, because I mean 10 million liquid your money. I mean, if you can make 4% returns 400 grand a year, and I think 4% is like pretty doable in the market. I mean, 4% you could probably safely get it. Let's call it 2%. That's $200,000 a year in income.
00:37:55
Speaker
if you already bought your house and everything i mean two hundred thousand dollars a year should be enough to you're like i don't know if i can live off this two hundred thousand dollars thing i mean technically i feel like 10 liquid you're you're set like you're not going to go buy yachts and shit but like you can live a very good life for the rest of your life well i guess off the so that's what this guy ramit i think i'm saying ramit is is like his the point he's trying to get is like your life is like this, like you you have a goals of what you wanted to do and you're like, okay, this $10 million, dollars like, do you need $10 million dollars to do what you think is your rich life? And most of the time it's like, oh no, I don't need that much money. It's like- Well, the problem I have is like my dream garage, which I've done this a couple of times, my dream garage is like 6.5. What? Yeah. Like if I could buy any car I wanted for a 10 car garage, I'm probably about $6 million dollars in cars. So that's the bigger issue is like six of my 10s going into cars.
00:38:44
Speaker
That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard in my life. I know, there's just some cars I want. Like, for example, like I want like a Pagani. Why are a PC Roadster? You want a Bugaki? No. Pagani. Pagani. One of the last, like, Italian, truly Italian-built cars. Epic cars. But you're looking, I think, for a Roadster, a PC Roadster, you're probably 3 million, 3.2 for that one car. Is is the Pagani? Am I saying that right? Pagani. Pagani. P-A-G-A-N-I-E. Not Punani. No, not Punani. OK. Are those cars like, now, but wait till I finish. Are those like the McLarens, where they're like,
00:39:15
Speaker
really really Really fast, really fancy, but you and as you said, pieces of shit and break down all the time. I don't think enough people own them to really make a consensus on that. There's not a lot of them. Like they're maybe 50 in the US right now, like maybe. i don't I don't think anyone's like come forward like, oh, they're pieces of shit they break down because like no one has them. From the people that I do know that have them, there's actually a couple here in Houston. I haven't heard of anyone having issues or anything, but I also don't think anyone's daily driving one of these things.
00:39:40
Speaker
Couldn't they just make them a little bit cheaper and then they would sell more of them? I don't think he wants to. These things are like hand-built. They're like pieces of art. You should put one on them. They're dope. They're they're wild. It's like this little old Italian man that I think he used to work for Ferrari or Lamborghini or something and decide to make his own car. Do you think when people like it's... Mercedes engines, so... You said made by hand. Yeah. Do you think the quality is better because it's made by hand or couldn't you just get robots that would do the same thing? Debatable.
00:40:07
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I think it's nicer made by hand. But for some things, some things know if you said like, oh I'm gonna build you a TV by hand, like, no, I want the robot built TV do the whole built by hand thing. Because this is where like, I mean, we had a big conversation about the AI and taking over jobs, which I made a YouTube video about in the comments were pretty, pretty crazy. um And people had some I didn't see that. Yeah. That was a very hot take on my part because I didn't mean it in a bad way. I was like, they don't have any other skill. I wasn't like, oh, they can't do anything else. I was more just saying that like not everyone in the world is going to lose their jobs to AI and go get another job. Yeah. Like if I take away all middle class jobs, they can't all turn into surgeons. Like they got to go somewhere. The clip you made it it made it sound like I was just like, they can't do anything but work in a warehouse. Like they can do other stuff. Well, no, I know that stuff's taken out. I think people need to understand. It's like,
00:40:54
Speaker
It's like if people carried everything around all the time and then they invented cars to help you carry shit, you can't be like, oh God, these cars just like took away the jobs from people who had to carry stuff. It's like, like you can't just get mad that the world is evolving. No, but I don't want to go into that conversation. anymore but we weren't I think more so what we're worried about is that.
00:41:13
Speaker
It's not about getting mad, it's about there not being another job for you. It's about eliminating three quarters of the workforce with AI and not creating new jobs for that three
Automation and the Future of Work
00:41:21
Speaker
quarters. like they What do they do? Yeah, but do you think that you it's it's either is it like it's all okay or none of it's okay? Because, for example, if it's convenient for you, for the same people, like the people who get really angry about like ah AI or whatever taking their jobs, I'd ask you to be like, hey, when you have like three things at a grocery store, okay? um And there's a whole bunch of people, like ah checkout clerks, right? And you have to wait in line, but you're like, I gotta have three three three things. But now there's like the bullpen where you can just go and in yeah do it really fast. Those people will be like, oh yeah, I love that. Like, yeah no i but like yeah that's fine. The convenience is great.
00:41:57
Speaker
I think the the bigger issue is if if all fast food workers are eliminated at the same time. I don't know what that number is. But let's say it's like a million. Yeah, McDonald's is doing all of them. Million people. No work. Does McDonald's keep those people like did they pay them like a welfare check? Like does McDonald's give them a little bit of money every month to make up for the fact they fired him? Like who's paying these people if that job goes away? Do you think this is actually a pretty crazy way to think about it? ah Are you are you someone who believes in like evolution?
00:42:25
Speaker
Yeah, or like the strongest survive, you know, like fish frog. Yeah, something, yeah you know, Darwinism. I think that it's kind of like, you know, like the strongest versions of animals are going to keep yeah becoming the strongest version to because we're humans. We don't let other humans just die.
00:42:38
Speaker
Or no, no, I know. We're not saying it would die. yeah But don't you think that it that if it puts the lower level jobs out of jobs, yeah do you think in the long term, and then um this is like just a thought, do you think in the long term it's actually going to benefit the long term society because it's going to force people to become like superior humans? No, because there can't be that many superior humans. We can't all be superior humans. So here's here's what more than likely happens.
00:43:07
Speaker
and do maybe maybe in 100 years from now, yeah um i don't want I don't want to say like what a low level job, because it's like if you got a job, that's great. But like whatever a low level job is, in 100 years, maybe a low level job is five ranks up from that in the future. And it's like, what though? I don't know. So here's here's more than likely what happens, right? All fast food workers get fired at the same time they all go automated.
00:43:32
Speaker
Realistically speaking, the governments, not just the US, all around the world are going to have to tax the corporations more money, like it'll probably be an automation tax, something like the more automated labor you have, the more you have to pay in taxes, and in that tax will pay all these people that are now on welfare. That's more than likely what happens is we eliminate a lot of these jobs, and then the US, the governments will come in and tax these companies that want to go automated, and it'll still be cheaper than paying the people, but it'll still cost them something, and that's how they're going to pay these people.
00:44:00
Speaker
But then you have to start wondering, it's like, okay, if I pay a million people to stay at home, give them welfare checks, and I'm like, what are they doing? You have to assume they're dumbing down. Like you have to assume that million people are just not really contributing to society. Not because they don't want to, they can't anymore.
00:44:14
Speaker
it's a ter That's what me and David were saying. like It's literally like a utopian thing, because like you're gonna end up with, if I'm forcing you to get a government check, because I took away your job, you have nothing else to do. Let's say you work at a fast food place, and now our robot has taken your job. What if I go, hey, you can either not have a job because this robot took it, or now you can learn how to work on those machines, and you can have the job of that, and what if you're just like, I won't do that? Well, I mean, you have to take that opportunity, but not everyone at the McDonald's, they don't need 25 robot mechanics at the McDonald's, so like someone's not gonna get a job.
00:44:46
Speaker
wild concept but we're gonna find out cuz I don't think it's slowing down well that's like this is in our lifetimes we will see this and evil people get so opinionated but it's like almost like similar to whom my opinion with politics I'm like what am I gonna do about it like that's when you have to figure out I can't just say what am I gonna do cuz like like you can you're just yelling at the clouds you can but if you replace your people at the fucking sourshoes warehouse with with robots they can't just say what am I gonna do about it like they have to do something about it I go find another job real quick. I had people in the comments that were saying like, if AI keeps going and people don't have jobs, then people aren't going to have the money to go into the store to buy sour strips. So I should be terrified. I might be subsidized. Yeah, I'm like, I have money. a That's a really, that's a really specific thing you're stressed about. Like, I can almost guarantee you, we will start seeing a new tax. There will be a automation tax on Sour Strip. So you can hire robots, you can buy robots, but you're going to have to pay X amount per robot per percentage of sales to help pay all the people that you're putting out of work. Robot tax? They have to. That's the only way they can make enough tax money to pay all the people that are going to have to go on welfare. Well, dude, um, yeah, assume I'm making bold assumptions here, but that would be like.
00:45:56
Speaker
Well, I'll tell you, by the time we get old, by the time we have a rich life, by the time you have your $15 million dollars in cars, we're gonna see how technology is. But as we get older- Hover cars, dude. I don't want a hover car.
00:46:10
Speaker
I feel, yeah, I don't know how flying cars will work because like- You know what I'm talking about? It's wild when you see like the Jetsons and stuff where it's like year 2020 and it's like all flying cars and like bubbles and stuff. It's like, y'all really missed the mark on that one. Like we didn't quite get that far ahead.
00:46:26
Speaker
Well, they didn't know. I know. It's just crazy to take in this like the as quick as technology was moving in like the 70s and 80s in those movies. They assumed by 2020 we would be so much further than we are.
00:46:37
Speaker
I mean, like we have some of it, but like in the 60s, they assumed in 2020, we'd be like living on Mars with bubbles and stuff. Oh, we have this hologram Tupac. Yeah, we came up with OnlyFans and VR. like we We didn't really get as far as y'all thought. But at the time, technology was moving so fast. like I don't blame them for thinking it was going to go that far. But like we definitely are slowing down a little bit. Well, it's be interesting to see how far it goes as we get older. And Joe, we mentioned how, hold up one more thing. You go to Chick-fil-A. It's all automated.
00:47:04
Speaker
Fucks up your order. Who do you you yell at the robot? Like who how do you fix the issue if there's not a single human working at McDonald's and they fuck up your order? Like what how do you how do you fix this same way that like has to be like one human same way that when I go to The vending machine and it doesn't give me my snack smacking it. I just beat the shit out of robot dude local youtuber fights automated machine oh Okay, Joe as as we get older and all this all this stuff happens We talked about how we we changed the things we would like to do. um You mentioned the other the other day we were talking about obviously this whole submarine thing that is pretty crazy. um we We kind of talked about things we would do, things we wouldn't do. And um Joe mentioned he's like, I would never go to submarine or I would never go in a spaceship.
00:47:51
Speaker
yeah Okay, we're going to a vacuum in a tin can do you think the older you get the the more you? weigh the risk to reward no What with other things maybe but at no point in my life while I get in the fucking tin can and go to see the Titanic and it happened No, okay. Yeah, but I'm talking like as you get older. Do you do things that are less? Why is my phone fucking blowing up dude? What is happening?
00:48:15
Speaker
I don't know. um do like Do you think the older you get the less ah extreme things you'll do? Example. I don't think so because I think like liability for kids and stuff. Like if I'm gonna do if I'm gonna die in some stupid fucking submarine accident right now at least it's not that bad on kids. Once I have kids I think now I'm even more cautious to like off myself in a stupid way. If anything, I feel like right now I should be the most reckless I could be, because I don't have anyone really depending on me. Once I have kids and grandkids and all that, like I don't think I should just be like randomly going to Mount Everest. Doesn't seem like a good idea. Do you, like would you go skydiving? Yeah, I do wanna go skydiving. Two things I would love to do, skydiving, shark cage. I would love to go see a great white face to face.
00:48:59
Speaker
never in a million years would you get me in a cage. Really? Why would you do that? I just I don't it'd be a cool thing to see face it because you can't see that in a zoo like you you can't get face to face with a great white anywhere besides in a cage. That would just be a cool I mean just to see that animal up close would be wild and I have a huge fear of sharks I feel like that would help me get over it's just like get in the water with one.
00:49:18
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That's why we're in the Caimans. I was like stoked, like we went to do little the little snorkeling thing and the guy was like, oh, there's like a black tip reef shark. And I wasn't, I was like, this is awesome. Like, this is a cool experience, but I'm terrified of sharks. The shark, I haven't, I mean, has there has has there been instances where the shark has gotten through the cage? Like very rarely, but yes. Yeah. No one's, I don't think anyone's died in a shark cage. I don't think there's been a case where the shark went into the shark cage and killed somebody. Like I think there's been cases where a shark got into the cage and people were like frantically trying to get out, but I don't think there's ever been like a fatality from a shark cage.
00:49:46
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I might be wrong. I think I'm done doing shit that I could potentially have a bad outcome for. I've gone skydiving, but now, I think I'd probably still end up going, but I'm just like... Have you been? Yeah. Really? Yeah, I went with my brother. Oh, I would go once. I feel like it'd be cool to do one time. It is really cool. Just like most of our sex lives, it's about 10 seconds, and then it's over. Like 10 seconds of freefall, and then you jump out of the plane, and 10 seconds later, they pull the parachute. I gotcha.
00:50:15
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but it feels like a long time. Like 10 seconds of fun and then like a 45 minute reset to get back up. Yes. Sounds about right. Similar. I think, but but now I'm just like, why would I jump out of a plane that I could potentially have a catastrophic event of and lose everything? I mean, why would you ride a plane in the first place then? Yeah. That is one thing I will say about like, as much as I think it was stupid for the whole submarine thing, and now we just heard the outcome today, like we just found out the outcome.
00:50:43
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I'm also at some point, I kind of agree with the CEO as much corners as we're cutting. It seems like the guy's kind of maybe playing with the line a little bit too close here. But his whole point of like, Oh, if you want no risk, like just don't get out of bed. I think there are some things like skydiving to me. Statistically, I'm going to be okay. I feel like it's what's like driving a car. It's like you. That's what I'm saying. There's probably a better chance of me getting in an accident on the way to skydiving than me actually dying in a skydiving accident.
00:51:04
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Yeah, but I think if you can eliminate situations that could have worse outcomes than the average, it's like, I think when I watch those videos of people with the flying suits and they jump off and they do that, and I'm like, that looks like a lot of fun, but I don't think I'm gonna do it. I bet even those guys wouldn't get in a fucking tin can and go see the Titanic. Like, it takes a special person to get in a submarine and go down to the Titanic. On the topic of the the the submarine,
00:51:34
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whenever something kind of like, I guess i I would say whenever something happens that maybe is out of the norm in the world, right?
Tragedy in Media and Public Perception
00:51:41
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um Obviously the whole internet is talking about it because of the uniqueness, the terrifyingness, like everything about it, the the bad, but a lot of it you'll see is like,
00:51:53
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Memes and like people making fun of this one this one picked up fast I will say this one like two days in We still didn't know like they could be alive and I was already seeing people making fun of this one and I'm like this is a little out of bad taste like yeah, they're potentially down there dying and you're like joking about it on I just can't wrap my head around especially people like I mean I think it's just wrong to joke about literally if people are dying Yeah, but like how can people make? Memes like what type of people are these I mean so comedy is tragedy plus time right? I think that's the the formula there, but like there was no time on this one I mean they were literally still possibly alive in there I was seeing like people joking about it and like the
00:52:32
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The billionaire hate the amount of people that were like serves him fucking right. Like he's a disgusting billionaire that probably hurt. Oh, yeah. People are like anyone that's anti rich people is very against this whole thing. What are they saying? Like good, not good. But like, why would we spend money to to go find that? Because I mean, all right. This is maybe in bad taste, but.
00:52:51
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I will say this is gonna cause a lot of regulation in that field because it happened in the middle of the fucking ocean. There's not a whole lot of regulation that can even put out there. I see where you're going with this. But because of the fact that that submarine was put together badly and it wasn't up to standards, it didn't have the right safety equipment, if we would've found out Sunday when it went missing that it imploded an hour 45 in, it's terrible. We gotta decide do we wanna go get it off the bottom of the sea floor. But that would've been the end of it. But because we had no idea I would, I mean, I don't know the actual figure, but I would say we've probably spent $200 million dollars easily trying to find the submarine for the last five days. I think a lot of people that are upset about it are like, why do we spend 200 million searching for five people?
00:53:30
Speaker
That's probably the biggest thing they're gonna say is like we had AC 130s in the air, we flew out these ships, we had carriers, we had such a huge thing. And I was talking to Mona about it earlier where I'm like, it is a wild concept that we like, we really pick things to to care about. Because I saw also, which you probably, I guess most people, during the Juneteenth weekend, holiday weekend or whatever in Chicago, there were 75 shootings and 19 fatalities.
00:53:53
Speaker
I didn't even hear about it. It wasn't even on my radar. I had no clue what happened. But five dude stuck in a submarine global news. Everyone in the world knows about it. We're worried about it. We're sitting here waiting for it. I it's a spectacle. It's something that you're just so out of like it's such a it's such a um say a great story, but it's such a great but well i story. i mean and And I think there's no I think there's no easy way to say this and it's probably gonna come off strange. But like,
00:54:17
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it's something that people have never seen before. And it's like, so, but it doesn't make it, it doesn't make it that like the, what's happening to these five individuals makes it any less or greater than everything else that's happening in the world. That's the biggest thing I've seen is like, why are we spending?
00:54:34
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hundreds of millions of dollars searching for five people. and Instead of spending that money on like there's hundreds of missing kids yeah in Mexico right now and shit. I guess I kind of see the argument there, but also I'm like, it's in our nature, we're gonna go help. like it's I think governments are gonna, no one's just gonna be like, now we don't care.
00:54:50
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yeah but do you think do think people that had that ah It's it's really interesting how people get obviously they're gonna be very opinionated and have like very hard takes on it um do you Do you think those same people? that That are saying why would we spend all this money on these these five people and these billionaires? Whatever if one of their family members a hundred percent were in there unless it's the dude's son He's got a blink 182. But yeah, I mean I It's like it would go both ways i I know for a fact though that will be the what comes out of this because it's all gonna be about regulation because the issue wasn't that they did this the issue was that it imploded day one and no one knew that until six days later after we already spent I Again, I don't know what it cost, but I'm sure it's
00:55:32
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How did they know that it it imploded they found them? They found the, ah because they had sonar buoys, basically the entire time that it went missing after that, they've had sonar buoys. They said they would have they would have heard it implode. Plus the amount of pressure down there, like a little incident would have happened immediately. It wouldn't have been like over a couple of days it kept crushing. Like it would have been, I mean, there's so much pressure. So their argument right now is that we've been monitoring the entire area as of that Sunday night and we haven't heard anything. So they're thinking it it imploded right when they lost communication.
00:55:59
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So I guess now the argument's gonna be like, because we didn't know that, we spent way more money, time, and resources than we should have. So anyone that's gonna do this in the future, it's gonna be a shitload of regulations on it and stuff. Because now the government's gonna say, like we can't, every time someone decides to go to the fucking Titanic, spend a quarter billion dollars trying to find you if it goes wrong. They're gonna lock this down. like If anything, this whole thing is gonna put an end to the whole like private deep sea exploration side of it. i think that i think the argument of like Why are they spending so much money on this? That's such a complex ah topic. yeah of like but it wouldn't It wouldn't come up if they found it intact. I don't think anyone have an issue with it. I think the issue is it imploded day one, but we didn't know that because a lot of red tape was cut on this whole thing.
00:56:45
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so We'll see. I think when things like this happen, like now it's going to become like a government red tape. Like no one else is going to see the Titanic as a tourist. And if they are, it's going to be, and maybe that's a good thing. I mean, you saw the videos of the sub, like it it was not. Yeah. It doesn't look good now when there's like quotes of the CEO. where He's like, ah, safety's relative. Like, you know, who cares? It's like, nah maybe you should have.
00:57:02
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On the top of it, let's let's switch topics of of of island. I'm going on vacation very, very soon. Yes, tomorrow. Well, I'm going to Spain for a little ah little bit of work, a little bit of pleasure. And then when I come back, I'm here for a short period of time and Taylor and I are going to Cancun, Mexico. Yes.
00:57:21
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I want to supposed to go. You can still go. I might be going. You're not going to go. I might go. We got the other move goes. We pushed we pushed our vacation back because we asked like five groups of people to go and everyone had like some sort of time constraints. We're like, okay, we pushed it a month. They pushed it back and all five of us were like, fuck, they didn't get the hint the first time. I'm gonna do this again. I know. And because I changed everything, I think I had to pay like five hundred more dollars. This is true. It's also more money on the right to get my friend. Let me just on the record. I told Max to move it to the end of July and I would go. Max moved it to July 7th, which is not the end of July. It's first of all, it's July 11th. Whatever. I'm just saying I said we're going for Taylor's birthday. I know. I'm going to. I think I might go.
00:58:06
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Anyways, what about your Cancun? When you go on vacation, what's your mindset on vacation? Are you someone that like, do you have a budget when you go on vacation? I mean, within reason. I would say no, but like within reason. Like if I'm in Cancun and they're like, hey, you want to go on a yacht for the day for $2,000? Like, okay, that sounds cool. But I'm also not like, oh, let me buy a Rolex for 50 grand in the Caymans. Like, no.
00:58:27
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like I feel like within reason, like if it's a fun trip, I want a little bit of a budget. like I'll look at, hey, I'm going to Cancun, flights, everything's gonna cost me five grand, I'm trying to keep it around that number. But also, if there's something really cool, like I'm not gonna not go.
Vacation Preferences and Experiences
00:58:41
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I'm gonna be like, oh, you're going on four-wheelers? I can't afford that today, I'm not gonna go. like Do you analyze money like when you get to where you're going on vacation? All the money that you've spent to that point, that that it's that's old money. You can't be like, now this trip, if it was 5,000 to get here, and then the next thing is two, this trip's 7,000, or is that now $2,000 starting? I would say seven.
00:59:01
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I usually at least like to have some kind of idea how much money I wanna spend on a trip. Like if we go to Disney World, I'm assuming six grand a person. and car Which is high, but like to do it right, probably. Now on this vacation, I'm going back to the same resort that I had been to last time with Taylor about about a year ago. do you Are you someone that wants, because like if you if you had a good time at a place, yeah do you go back to the same place or you go, I wanna see what else is out there? Because you risk,
00:59:27
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You risk, it's it's like, I love this flavor of drink. I'm at the store, let me try something else, and you get it, you get in your car, you drive, you open it, and you're like, this sucks. Now I'm stuck with this drink. I think for full-on locations, i' I like to switch it up. It's like, I've been to Colorado so many times. At this point, like next year, if we go snowboarding, I'm like, let's go to Utah, or let's go somewhere different. But if you go to Colorado, you're going the same way. If I go to Colorado, I'm probably doing winter park harassment.
00:59:51
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like I think for you, like you know that resort's good. like it's It's not gonna be much different between resorts. You're good. But if I were you, I wouldn't go back to Cancun. I'd go to Turks and Caicos. I don't know, another island somewhere. Well, I can't even get my friends to take a two-hour flight to Cancun. You think I can get them to go to frickin' Turks and Caicos? No, I'd say for you, like it inside the same area.
01:00:08
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I do the same thing every time. On vacation, are you a beach or a pool guy? Beach. I don't care about the pool. I got a pool in my backyard. Well, not anymore. That's not the same. It is the same. Okay, but I'm to pool i'm talking about a pool at a resort with like a swim-up bar. I don't care. I would rather sit by the beach and go in the water. i'm a big I'm a big water, like I'm a big ocean guy. Like we're in the Caymans every morning. I get the little flippers and the little snorkel. I go out pretty far and go look at some stuff. I caught a lobster, come back. That was a great. That was a wonderful time.
01:00:36
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I think the beach sucks. I think the ocean sucks. I like the ocean. Like, I'll go in it. I'll have fun while I'm doing it. yeah I'll be like, hey, let's go to the beach. But like, I would take the pool every time over. we were When we were in the Caymans, I was snorkeling, having a great time. And the whole time, every time I come to the surface, I hear Max on the boat. Like, come on, we gotta go to the bar. Let's go. And it's just like, bro, shut up. Let me let me snorkel. dude i think I had a lot of like traumatic ah traumatic experiences when I was a kid. And I i swallowed so much ah salt water. Why?
01:01:05
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because i'm out i'm I'm a kid, I'm out in the the mouth open. just sometimes you Sometimes you just swallow water on accident. It hasn't happened to me. You've never swallowed a bunch of saltwater on accident? No. Well, it makes you throw up. It's so gross, bro. I've never had that happen. I've never gotten saltwater in my mouth. I've never swallowed saltwater. You've never swallowed saltwater? No.
01:01:24
Speaker
What mass amounts yeah a little bit got in my mouth one time but like no and then like lincoln and and then when I know it's not an accident man and then when you go to like you go to the Cooler and stuff and you get like your sandwich out and then you get and there's like sand on it and stuff I was that I'm not a fan of sand but that's what the pools for You do the ocean, you do that,
Animal Encounters and Ethics
01:01:44
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and you step in the pool, and then you go back to your room. Two fun facts about the ah ah the beach. yeah Sand is just tiny little rocks. Yeah. I remember in middle school, maybe elementary school, someone told me sand was fish poop, and for a long time, I believed it. Someone at some point told me that like all sand was just fish poop, and I was like, okay. Similar to fish poops. Did you know that... Do you know why the ocean is salty?
01:02:10
Speaker
because of salt. Where does the salt come from? Like the salt flats at the bottom, the bottom of the ocean of salt now. It's whale semen. No, it's not. Whale semen. No, it's not. No. Dude, have you seen- I'm gonna look that up. but do you Do you know how big whales are? Is that what you watch at night? That's what you go? Whale hub. Imagine the loads that these whales are just splurging. Probably intense, yeah. Yeah. You think that accounts for all of the salt in the sea?
01:02:39
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Do you know how long whales have been around? Okay. Do you know how many loads they're blowing? All right. Agree to disagree on this one. So I'm going to assume there's like salt flats, same as in the desert under the ocean. And that's how it got. What's a salt flat? You know, like in the desert, like the big salts, salt flats.
01:02:55
Speaker
It's just salt in the ground. In the desert, there's only pyramids and quicksand. That's where we get salt from. Don't we like mine salt out of the ground? I get it from the store. Well, I go to put it in the store for you. I think mine it out of the ground. I'm assuming it's under the ocean and then it gets into the water. Dude, the ocean is something that I don't trust the ocean. Is a lake over a salt flat salty?
01:03:16
Speaker
Can that happen? Let me ask you this, Joe. Are there any are there any whales in the lakes? No. No, there ah can't be. Guess what? Yeah. Is the lake salt water? No. i think um I think a lake could be salty. What salty lake you swimming in? I don't know. But I mean, it sounds reasonable. If there was water on top of a salt flat, it would be salty water. Next time you go to a lake. Someone's going to be like, y'all are fucking idiots. next i i want I want to know the next time you go to a salty lake. Yeah. You know, there could be sharks in freshwater. That can happen.
01:03:44
Speaker
Brackish water technically, but sometimes fresh water like bull sharks can go upstream like there's a lot of people get attacked by bull sharks in rivers Where you wouldn't even think there's a bull shark the fuck is a bull shark little aggressive asshole It's like the highest testosterone animal in the world. Are you like basically really into sharks? um I'm into all animals. I love all if you ever do like animal trivia. um I'm winning it 100% big animal guy Like marine, like all of it. like rept I love reptiles. I used to have pet python. yeah I have a pet python. I was a weird kid. He's a trouser snake. Mine was a reticulated python. but yeah i was I was the weird kid in like middle school that had like snakes and lizards. I'm not going to lie, i I have never understood what how how why people have
01:04:28
Speaker
amphibians. Are that what they are? Amphibians? What? Snake? Is it amphibian? It's a reptile. Amphibian would be like a... It's with web feet. Salamander or a frog. Okay. Amphibians. I think webbed feet mean amphibian. Am I saying it right? Amphibian. I've never understood why people... Frogs and salamanders. I think that's it. Like newts.
01:04:51
Speaker
Why do people have lizards and snakes as pets? I had lizards and snakes. I watch i can't wrap my head around it. I was, i I liked snakes. I always had a huge, I was a big, like I grew up watching Steve Irwin like every single day. So it's also not so cool. So you used to catch little snakes in the backyard and I got a little Python. I had a couple, I had like a, you're not gonna know what I'm saying. I had a couple different pet pythons growing up. One of them got big, one was like seven, eight feet and I had to get rid of it because it got like too big.
01:05:17
Speaker
I didn't really know what I was buying, so I bought a reticulated Python, which is like the world's largest snake. Yeah, almost like my wiener, but I, it started getting bigger and bigger. I started, I feed it rabbits. Yeah. Yeah. I had to feed this thing rabbits and then started getting to the point where like, it's not safe to handle by myself. Like once they get over like 12 foot, you're not supposed to handle them by yourself. Cause if it decides to wrap you up, like you can't get it off of you. Like if it wrapped around your neck, you, you're not strong enough to get a 12 foot snake. I could, I could get off. You're not, you have no, even when it was seven foot, like it, dude, the amount of strength that Python has is you have no clue.
01:05:48
Speaker
Bro, if you think that a snake is stronger than these fucking forums... You have no idea, dude. It's just... Like a 16-foot reticulated python, you have no chance. It's just a slippery little snake, dude. It's like a garden hose. But anyways, yeah, it started getting too big for me to safely handle it. I got to the point where, like, I have no friends that wanted to come over to play with my snake. So I just, like, it wasn't gonna make sense for me to keep this thing. You don't play with those animals. It was tame. I mean, you can only tame them so much. It doesn't know who you are, Joe. I got bit, like, once. And I had that snake for, like, three years.
01:06:16
Speaker
That snake had no idea who you were, it didn't care about you. But it also never tried to attack me, like it was... this might thing This might be hypocritical of me, but like, I look at animals like dogs and stuff and I'm like, domesticated, they should be around people. You can't domesticate a snake.
01:06:33
Speaker
i I think lizards, iguanas, all that shit. No, no, here. They that they are supposed to be out in the wilderness. i've seen It's like someone's a pet bear. What are you doing? Yeah, it's an exotic animal. I think there are people that I enjoy exotic animals. I thought it was really cool to own an exotic animal, but I have no desire to own like a bear or something like that. You just look at it and it's a little case and you're like, oh yeah. I would love to have a chameleon. I would love nothing more than have like a really cool like terrarium with an a chameleon in it.
01:07:00
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Do you, did you feed your snake little mice? Yeah. Live, live, rats and lot on live mice. No, they're frozen thawed. But I did have one that wouldn't eat frozen thawed, so that one I had to feed live. I couldn't do that. Live? A mouse? Yeah. I couldn't do a rabbit. The rabbit's are always frozen thawed. I, there's no way I could kill a little bunny. Bunnies are too cute. I feel like I'm such a hypocrite because like I, I couldn't do that, but like I'll eat meat.
01:07:27
Speaker
I could, with a mouse, I'm okay. If you said, Max, go kill that chicken and cook it for dinner tonight, I'd be like, nah. I'm the same way. I went bird hunting once. I wouldn't go bird. I've, now I've. i Yeah. So you like, you, you kill these little dove, which like doves are kind of cute. You kill a dove, you shoot it, but like the buckshot doesn't kill it. So it falls to the thing and then you gotta go get it and you're like ring its neck to kill it. And what I do, i what I did one of them and I'm like, I don't think I can do this. What do you mean ring its neck? Like grab by the head and fucking snap its neck.
01:07:53
Speaker
Because like the bucks, I mean, you can just put it in your bag, but it's gonna be bleeding out suffering the whole time. So it's better to just like It's fucked up. I feel really bad. I hate hunting. I hate killing animals in general. As much as I am a meat eater, and I think it's just because I was raised on it, right? and I'm with you. is it but like i i And again, you can call me hypocrite. Beta. Yeah. I i will not go hunting. I will i will not. like unless Unless these deer are like becoming zombies and taking over my land and are going to kill me,
01:08:25
Speaker
Okay. Okay. But like to eat, like, could you kill a cow if it meant that you and Taylor got to eat meat for the next six months? Yes. If I, what if it wasn't, no, no, no, not life and death. Like you go vegetarian or you kill this cow and stay meat eaters for the next six months. You're going to live either way. Could you do it? Like, would you do it? Actually, I don't think I could. You would go vegetarian for six months instead of killing that cow. Yeah. I got to kill the cow. I like meat too much.
01:08:49
Speaker
I feel really bad for a couple of days. I probably very upset about it. But like it I'm gonna eat me bro. My friend My friend who helped me Josh who helped me build Jeeps back when I was younger He would like him and his dad would go like deer hunting. Do you know do you know what you do to get? They hang them up. They hang them from like a tree. They skin Yeah, they drain the blood they're hanging upside down. They skin them. They pull the skin off of them. Mm-hmm I mean, they're dead at that point. or No way could I do that. you want But I'll eat a hamburger. I don't know. I don't wanna talk about it on this podcast, but like feral hog hunting, we did that one time. i That scarred me for a while. That might be the most fucked up thing I've ever seen. I didn't even go. It got to the point where they were telling us what they were gonna do. And I was like, I'm just gonna stay at the cabin. um I have no desire to go on this hunt. They bring dogs out. These dogs aren't like our dogs. These dogs aren't like you like pediment stuff. These are working dogs. Like they are snapping at each other, trying to eat each other.
01:09:43
Speaker
They go they have like they have like some dogs that corner of the pigs and then a big pit bull comes in and grabs a pig and and this The dogs will have like Kevlar vests on oh yeah and they die all the time like even the guys telling us like oh we lost one last night and It's like they they talk about dogs like they are a fucking item like there's there's no and to be fair like these dogs are like you you don't like I walked up and I was like oh he's so cute and they're like bro stay the fuck away like these dogs will fuck you up and I'm like okay and it was it was great and they're talking about oh like to train them we like cut the tusks out of the pig like dt the pigs but keep them alive so we can teach the puppies how to attack like this is some hillbilly ass i mean the guys that showed up were like overalls no t-shirt missing all their teeth like it is some backwoods is it
01:10:23
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i I understand, and again, there's like, there's many scenarios of this, but I understand hunting for food or like yeah killing animals for survival, for food, like it's just, I'm not getting into the whole fucking topic. But I cannot wrap my head around hunting for sport.
01:10:42
Speaker
Or hunting exhaust. That always pissed me off when I say like, oh, yeah, I mean, your doctor kills a draft. And I'm like, for what? Like, why did you kill the draft? I, yeah, I feel like that goes without saying, that's like ridiculous shit that like, I can't do. I'm cool with it. If you have a bow, like if you go bow hunting, I feel like it's a little bit more like bow and arrow. I feel like that's a little bit more like you're hunting the guys that put a deer feeder out and then lay there and wait for the deer to come eat and then blow their heads off. I'm like, that's not really doing anything. You're just sitting there with your boys, drinking a beer, getting ready to blow a deer's head off.
01:11:07
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The guys that get bow and arrow and go like track an elk and like go, the um that seems more- So if you have to hunt an animal, why would you not use technology? That's where I think it's fucked up. I think if you're gonna hunt, hunt. If you're gonna just sit in a blind and wait for one to walk by and blow his head off, that ain't really hunting. I think if you're hunting because you're gonna eat the food of the animal. Yeah, but none of these people need to do that. People are hunting. I just can't ride my head around. I cannot, I will i don't support which is, you meat. But I- Oh, I love dove. Little bacon-wrapped doves from cheese and jalapenos, delicious. But I feel real bad killing them. No, I'll never go hunting, ever. Ever, ever, ever. Not gonna have a dude in a Kevlar vest go take some pigs. Nope. I'm telling you, that was the most wild experience I've ever had in my life.
01:11:56
Speaker
That was like, you ever see without a paddle? yeah yeah along Like the two guys up in the hill? Like that's basically who was like leading the hunt. It was, it was weird. Not a fan. I thought that we had a Russian dude with us that came from Russia. He has no clue. So he was sitting there the whole time, like jaw dropped. Just like, what, what do y'all do here? He was so like, the culture shock was so intense. I felt bad for him. Cause he's just looking at us like, this is what y'all do. And we're all like, no, like there's one of the guys at the cabin with us put the hunt together. He was the one that was like, Oh, it's we were hog hunting. We didn't know what that meant until they showed up and we're like, okay, this is some wild shit.
01:12:26
Speaker
Anyways, yeah. Nope. Not a big hunter either. I'm i'm not, but I will eat meat. I'm not the kind of guy that like, I don't see a video where it's like, Oh, look how brutal they are to these cows or whatever. Like it upsets me. I get mad, but I'm not like, I'm not eating meat for six months. Like I'm, I'm going to go eat meat. It sucks, but like, it sucks. This is not where I thought this podcast was going to go at all.
01:12:45
Speaker
But if someone said to you, how are you fine with eating meat, but you will not kill an animal? yeah what What is your answer to that? i don't have one I don't have one that would like suffice for someone. Well, I mean, I don't eat the meat. they're still So the argument is usually like, oh, if if we all stop eating meat, they'll stop killing the animals. But like in reality, the complex has already started. It's way too big of an industry to stop.
01:13:06
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So like in reality, every person that's like, I'm not eating meat, the meat still goes supermarket. It just goes bad. and Like at that point, you're wasting the meat. I tell you vegetarians that all the time. I'm like, you not eating a steak is not making them kill one less cow. They're still killing the cow. It's just now no one's gonna eat that steak.
01:13:19
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i I don't know. um I mean, it's a touchy thing, but I will always eat meat. I can't not. It's too good. I don't have an answer for it. I could live on seafood. i could i could i If I had to, I could go strictly seafood. I can eat salmon every night. Why are people more fine with being a pescatarian? Because fish don't have feelings. Kurt Cobain, dude.
01:13:40
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The argument I think there's some scientific and I don't know if this is real or not. There was some scientific you're telling me when the fish is laying on its side. It's like a fish is nervous system. I don't think it's complex enough to feel pain the same way we do. I think the argument is they don't process pain the same way that someone meet a fish and ask them. That's my thing is I don't know how we know that. But that's usually the like argument for Fisher. Okay, because they don't feel pain the same way that a cow does. I guess the line would be like,
01:14:07
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if there's a spider and you step on it and you feel nothing, like why do you feel nothing about an ant that you kill? Is it because it's small? Is it because it's an insect? I don't know. I wouldn't, if there was a frog, I wouldn't- Oh fuck no, I'd be pissed if you stepped on a frog. Yeah, I wouldn't do that. Right, you'd step on a cockroach and be like, all right, that's fine.
01:14:24
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It's a complicated topic. But I'm even, dude, I'm the kind of guy, like, if there's a spider in my house, like, I'll try to get it out of my house without killing it. Like, I will go out of my way, like, get on a piece of paper and take it outside. Like, I really rarely am like, I'm killing that thing in my house. Here's, here's the two things. Honestly, I think snakes fall in this category too. You kill a snake?
01:14:41
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I've never had to kill a snake. Dude, I remember my grandma back in the day. Dude, I specifically remember this huge ass snake. I'm assuming my grandma came out of the house with a shotgun and shot this huge snake and just blew it in half. And she was like, it was like nothing. Like it was i sitting it was a giant snake and she's like, hold on. yeah Shot it with a shotgun. Anyway, um no, I've never had to, I've never i never had to experience a snake. You have any snakes in your pool?
01:15:09
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In my pool? Yeah. You live on them. I'm surprised because you live somewhere. There's a lot of snakes in that lake. No, I've never had to like interact with a snake. Okay. Um, but bees, all bees are really good. I know. yeah But bees and spiders, I don't in in caterpillars.
01:15:25
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like out of but No, i'm not not and I'm not saying I go out and fucking and like kill all these zen sex or whatever. No, but I'm just like, I don't have the time or the knowledge to to decipher in the moment. Is this a poisonous one or a good one? Okay, well, I can we help you out with one of these things. I don't think in the state of Texas, we have any caterpillars that are like going to kill you. I took a picture of to touch them like the furry black ones. But like we don't have any caterpillars where like they're going to bite you. It's it's basically just that they like little poisonous quills on them. No caterpillars are biting people who or attacking people.
01:15:54
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Okay. If you see a caterpillar, you can pretty safely like put it on a stick and get it out of the way. It's not going to fucking jump on you and and beat your ass. But if you take a spider is a little bit more touchy spiders in your house, you take and put it outside. Guess what? That spider is now just going to build spider stuff around your house probably, but it eats a bunch of other insects. You know, I do. There are a lot of spiders and spiders and bees are actually really good for it like everything.
01:16:13
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I don't know if there's enough time to tell you the traumatic experiences I had as a child with bees, bro. I'm gonna tell you the story. I'm gonna tell the story. I have a similar one to go for. when i was i So I used to get stung by bees all the time as a child. all I don't know what they were. Something with wasp. yeah There was one time I was with my my neighbor, and now keep in mind, um I lived out in like the middle of the woods, right? So my neighbor was like a mile and a half away from me, and I would literally like run through the woods, get to his house. His name was Micah, okay? And we were over there, and there was a picnic table down his like three-mile driveway, picnic table. yeah We were down there.
01:16:52
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Jumping around on the picnic table turns out under that picnic table was a giant but Hornet's nest or something. Yeah, and I got stung. I mean shit Joe I think I had like 20 stink like 20 and I remember Us just blood curdling screaming. His mom runs down the driveway. He was like, what is going on? We're screaming. She's starting to get stung. We are running all the way back to the house and just getting stung like in my in my ear, like ah like my eyelids. And I had this. It was like I had like 20 stings, bro. Like it was like literally traumatic. yeah And because of that moment,
01:17:32
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I, you do, yeah, when a wasp flies by, I do notice you like run. Like you're like not even, I haven't got something like with probably well over a decade or so. So I'll keep it very short, but we used to play hide and seek in the dark outside little idiot kids. i lived in four suit No, like we just, so I was hiding in my friend's like trashcan area. That was a fenced off area. And I was like crouched down backing into the fence. And I guess there was a ah hornet nest in the fence. So I literally backed into it. I put my back directly into it.
01:17:58
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Got stung like 15 times and then i I remember I ran screaming from his house all the way to my house. I didn't even go into his house. I went all the way home screaming. It was like quarter mile just fucking hauling ass screaming. And ever since I'm like, yeah, I don't I don't mess with loss. We had similar. Oh, yeah, it was a bad time. I got somebody watch all the time. cause We live out in the country and I had to mow the grass and there's a fence and every time the mower get too close to the fence, the hornets would come fly down and try to kill you.
01:18:21
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Yeah, I got stung probably like once a week. Well, for me, it's just like if a but a bee flies is near me, it's not like I'm gonna like, you're my mission to die. Bees are usually pretty cool. I don't think a bee's ever just like randomly flew by and stung somebody. I mean, it probably has happened, but I don't think normally, like a wasp, like a hornet will come after you. I don't think bees really like come after you unless you fuck with them. Unless it looks like a bumblebee to me, they all look like wasps to me.
01:18:42
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Like if there's a giant nest on your house, do you just assume it's, do you get the bee spray and spray it? I mean, no matter what, it's not bee spray. You would know, there's a big difference. Bee colonies are massive. There's never like a little poop of bees. It's like you, thousands of bees are at your house.
01:18:57
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I only know the mud dopper little things I get and and a little in a little you're talking about hornet's nest No mud doppers are not wanted the thing that you're saying you're spraying is a hornet's nest right one of the wasps It's not a bee
Ethics of Food and Health Decisions
01:19:07
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net. You don't have bees. I think your your issue is misplaced with the bees the bees are fine I think you're mad at no I yeah, okay. Yeah. Yeah, I've never seen a I've and i've never seen like a bee hives or you would you would know you may have not had a beehive I know i've I've never seen a beehive. Yeah. Yeah. So anytime there's like a tiny little thing that's wasps. Yeah So those ones, is that widely accepted, they can go away? Is it true that wasps don't do anything? You might be right, I don't know. i have I think you're right. I think they might do some stuff but not anywhere near like as beneficial as bees or something.
01:19:36
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I think they eat other insects, but wasps are brutal. Praying mantis are brutal. I think wasps are the ones that they can just keep stinging. Yeah, they don't die. A bee dies. Because it pulls their insides out, right? Yeah, a wasp has multi. You got reload on that thing. Why, when bees were designed, why was that? They're like, you have one safety feature, and if you use it, you're done. Crazier than that. A lot of people don't know this, but bees don't live very long.
01:20:02
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Like I think they're different based on their classes. So there's like worker bees and like guard bees and stuff, but I think like the average worker bee, I want to say they live for like 72 hours. I think from the time they're born to the time they die is like three days or maybe it's like, it's like a week. It's very short. Like even though they don't sting, they just, that's their lifespan.
01:20:18
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I think like the queen can live up to a year and then some of the other ones in between can live like a couple months. I might be wrong, someone could comment down below, but I'm pretty sure your average bee only lives for like a week. Do you think that bees, you know in like a interstellar when they go to the planet and they've been there for like, and it's like actually a long time. Do you think bees for three days, they're like, so God, I've lived such a long, good life, I'm ready to go. I've served my queen or they're just like. I don't know. That's a good question. Does time move differently for insects? It's relativity, right?
01:20:47
Speaker
That is a topic for another podcast. This is a wild podcast. I feel like we talked about nothing but a bunch at the same time. Look, you know, Joe, when I have you on, like, I think random topics, unless there's crazy current events, and and because these episodes don't go up, like, it's not like, yeah Joe, something happened last night, dude, we got to put a podcast out right now, we got to talk about it right now. It's more just like, it is kind of random shit. Honestly, the submarine thing's the only thing that has happened recently.
01:21:12
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Oh, and your girlfriend just told me about some fake chicken thing that was approved while the submarine thing was going on. Kind of went under the radar fake chicken. Yeah, us a no USDA USDA approved I guess today or yesterday they approved lab grown chicken as edible like you can officially sell lab grown chicken in the US legally.
01:21:35
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Not a chicken grown in the lab that was then killed, like literally lab grown. Like the chicken breast is made from cells in a lab. It just comes out as a chicken breast. I don't care. I don't care. It's not from a chip. I mean, it's lab grown. So like you could go to, technically speaking, you could go to Chick-fil-A five years from now and get a chicken sandwich, but it ain't real chicken. But you don't know that. I don't think they have to disclose if it's not real. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck. it um I don't know if I want to eat something grown in the lab.
01:22:03
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I don't know, I guess that's a weird. It will be ah the vegetarian's happiest moment ever though, because if this works out, technically they can do this with all meats. So I mean, technically all meats could be lab grown and now animals get to just- Yeah, but bro, I'm not like with the whole, and this whole topic has got about animals, dude. Like i'm I don't eat a steak because I'm like, I love like the fact that the cow died to give me this. I'm like- No, but would you eat, do you eat fake meat?
01:22:29
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I would. No, do you right now? Like the tofu version of a steak or whatever, like the Beyond Meat Patties. Do you get those? To be honest, I grew up, my dad actually got these things, they're called Boca Burgers. They're a brand and I used to eat them in a lot as a kid and I thought they would taste amazing. I'm not someone like, it just, it can't.
01:22:46
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kinda tastes like a steak. It can't kinda taste like chicken. It needs to be one for one exact. And if you can give me that, I'm not gonna be like- Apparently they can. Yeah, but see, like, I'm not gonna, like, at the moment, I'm not gonna, like, go out of my way to make sure that I only eat this one because it tastes the same, but I'm gonna go, like, I'm just like, look, like the convenience of everything, yeah. So, but it gets- I just worry about eating something grown in a lab.
01:23:06
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like what if it it's synthetic like what if I'm eating I don't know you know what dude I'm shooting my ass up with synthetic TRT all the time so maybe I'm a hypocrite on that one too I had something about the chicken being grown in a lab from cells just makes me not think I should eat that or maybe I should be the first part maybe other people should eat this for a while Bro, the the food that we're already eating is already injected with a bunch of shit. Yeah, but at least it's a real animal. Like a chicken breast came from a chicken. I don't know if I like that it came from a mushy bag of cells. but here's okay no But here's the thing is if you're eating the chicken because of, um I'm assuming a couple things.
01:23:40
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Well, I'm taking like the convenience of I can get it in here and texture the only two that matter right taste and texture and the nutrients No, cuz you need the nutrients from other stuff. I mean we've had that for a while i'd have noo but But I'd say those are the three like I eat chicken because it's high in protein low and low in that get a protein shake I'm just saying the nutrients thing has been replaced for a while. You don't have have to know but like but the food. Okay. um Yes. Okay. Yeah, if those three things i don't care I don't care that it came from an animal. i do i want natural stuff i don't think i want lab- grown cells
01:24:10
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and my chicken Yeah, but you're just thinking about it all weird. I just don't think about it. well And i I told, again, we were having this conversation before this. I'm like, I love McDonald's chicken nuggets. I could eat a 20-count of chicken nugget. I don't know what the hell is in those things. No, I think they came out like they're real. It's rate's real chicken. It's a pink mush that are I don't know what the fuck it is, but like I'll eat those all day. Those are great. Yeah, but here's the thing. If the if the FDA was like, hey, yeah It wouldn't be the USDA, USDA, whatever. yeah okay ah Food and Drug Administration, and then United States Drug Administration. I don't know. ah if If they're like, hey, this is safe. We have done all the research. US Department of Agriculture. Whatever. That's what it was. if if if If it's completely safe, you're not going to have any bad effects from this.
01:24:59
Speaker
and it looks like a chicken, okay it tastes exactly 99.999999% the same, looks the same, tastes the same, same nutrients, same texture that I don't give a shit about the vaccine.
01:25:11
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I don't know if I trust the USDA. I don't know if I trust the government to tell me what is and isn't safe to put in my body. You know what, Joe? i shouldve um And I know I sound like some conspiracy, but I'm just like, there have been things that we have said. There's been vaccines in the past where they're like, this is safe. Don't worry about it. And then, fuck, smoking for a long time was considered safe. I just don't know if I trust the government's opinion on some of these like brand new things that they don't really know.
01:25:33
Speaker
I know, but I'm I'm just putting the example of let's say it is if it's safe. I don't give a shit. Whatever. Yeah. You know, I was getting long, but I really want to talk about it. Okay. No one's going to be mad. No one's going to watch the vaccine. I I've been wanting to kind of talk with someone about this. And I feel like you're the person talking about the person talking about. We're going to briefly do it because I'm type X. You are a country boy. Here's here's the thing.
01:25:59
Speaker
When the whole VEED came out, and now, I mean, I don't i don't know enough about everything. When it turns out that it was made in a lab or something, OK. It's pretty safe to say that. OK, but I don't know what that means. Which is wild, because if you said that for a very long time, you were shut down and kicked off a platform and everything else. And now it's like, oh, oops, it was right. We'll let you talk about it now. Well, like I guess the the argument is like, oh, we didn't know. so Sorry for getting so mad at you. We're sorry. because I mean, by my own people, I'm like, I was getting wrecked that I never got the vaccine. Yeah, you get it. Yeah, I got I got I got the I got all of them. I never did. I got a lot of people are still to this day. People were like, oh, you're fucking anti that. But I'm like, look.
01:26:44
Speaker
I'm good in the event that in 20 years from now you're watching TV and there's an ad like did you or a loved one get the vaccine and I'm good I got to worry about this shit. I'm fine. I had the vid twice and I was totally fine Yeah, no, I got I got it and no, but I got all the vaccines. I got all the boosters Yeah, I got the actual ones because people were Lily ripping me apart for not and again, I'm more like hey In my mind, the reason I got it wasn't because I am a drone, I must follow what the government says. I'm more like, hey, there's clearly something going on. Oh, this vaccine solves that? It didn't though. Yeah, but I was like. I know. You were told it was. Everyone was told it was. Have you seen the real? You get the hepatitis shot or something. Someone's going to comment and be like, you're so uninformed, blah, blah, blah. But you can look this shit up. If go to the real and type in every time it was said the vaccine
01:27:36
Speaker
Cures, I don't know if it was said cures, but you it was said that you cannot get COVID with the vaccine and everyone disputes I there's all these times you like it was never said there's Hundreds of videos of Fauci and Biden and every big leader even Trump saying if you get the vaccine, you won't get the vid And now all of a sudden, no one ever said that. What are you talking about? That was never presented that way. It's like, there's evidence. And then people will still in the comments be like, you know, you don't know what you're talking about. It's like, there's video evidence of this. I guess I'm just more like, I'm stressed. I don't like live my life super stressed out right now because of it. But the fact that it was so like,
01:28:10
Speaker
Essentially, they made it seem like you're a piece of shit if you oh yoump up yeah yeah if you don't do it. It divided the freaking nation. You're killing other people. And now it turns out they found out that there was no reduction in transmission from vaccinated or not. So the whole argument that I was hurting other people by not getting it was not even a true thing. But for two years, people were told to hate anyone that didn't get the vaccine. Right. But now it's like, we're sorry. We're all good now. Sorry. Let's forget about that. Don't worry about it. The the only part that stresses me out When I think about it yeah and I don't think about it, I don't think about that much. You have little microchips in your blood now? Well, here's the thing. I got all the stuff and like I'm like, OK, maybe this maybe let's say in the scenario of like, hey, we just didn't know whoopsies. But the fact now that I don't think think you can get those vaccines anymore. I think they they they like pulled them off. I think they can.
01:29:01
Speaker
I don't know. Look, when someone's offering you $100 to get vaccinated, you know, there's an issue. I got ads that were like, get $100 at your local clinic. When you get vaccinated, I'm like, why are you paying me to get that? Like, this doesn't seem right. Yeah, like CBS, you would get like a $5 gift card. Now we're getting real close to demonetization time here. But like, have you type in like sponsored by Pfizer and watch that video. Every single news organization over the last two years is sponsored by Pfizer.
01:29:25
Speaker
Every news broadcast is like brought to you by Pfizer. Every sports game brought to you by like Pfizer has their hand in everyone, every single news organization. Right, left, middle doesn't fucking matter if Pfizer sponsored something. It's like you want to look at something that like looks bad is like the fact that the company that making the most money off the vaccine was in everything. Government, every storm or force of media, every hospital, everything Pfizer is touching.
01:29:51
Speaker
doesn't look good. I just want to know is I got all this stuff turns out apparently now they're like hey what is it now is it like you don't need it or you don't don't get it don't need it I don't think it's don't get it I think so and I might be wrong on this but at this at the moment it reduces your chance of having serious complications from the vid if you were to catch the vid right now there's a very low chance that you're going to develop a bad reaction to it, where if I get it, I can still get pretty sick. So the argument is you could get it, I could get it, and I may have 104 degree fever and want to kill myself and you might be totally fine. See, I guess in my mind, when when when I was like, hey, you know, contemplating him, should I get this, whatever, that's, I'm like a logical person. They're like, hey, there's a virus. If you get the vaccine,
01:30:37
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like you know it's not gonna be as bad or you're not gonna and i'm so i'm like okay yeah seems seems like a seems like a lot i don't think to take anyone that got it stupid i think it's very un i think it's irresponsible the way it was i got attacked for not getting it and then i got it and then i got attacked for getting it like you almost if you if you got it you almost were like Do I tell people and and and make the people that are the anti cards the people in the airports like getting in fights? I mean, it literally turned into like a you versus someone else if depending on your vaccine status. And that's the wild things like people are alienated. There were people not exaggerating. You can look this up, too. There were people recommending that like unvaccinated people are put into camps. That was literally recommended by like city council people and stuff and like big people like big influential people. I think Schwarzenegger
01:31:23
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It's like the giant thing with like like the army and like the the like it's all gated off like y'all live here Check your neck or whatever. Yeah, like the there Arnold like as much as I like Arnold He was on record at one point saying like you fuck your freedom get the vaccine like He basically was like I don't care about anyone's freedom like you do what we tell us and it's like that's a very weird thing for especially someone from like a I don't think he's from a communist country, but it's just weird that someone like him would have that it literally turned into like a and in ah and This isn't just talking about that, but I think when there's a big situation happening and it's it's divided, people are on side A or side B, and and then it comes out later that it was side A was right or side B was right. No matter which way it goes, yeah the other people are like, you dumb motherfuckers, I told you. So I will say if it came out the opposite, yeah then everyone else, like it's like you're like 20, 20 hindsight, right? Captain hindsight over here.
01:32:18
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To be fair, at the time, no one knew. So from a government perspective, like if this is a mass casualty loss of life event and we don't push this vaccine, like if COVID really does kill, you have to bleep that out. If they really does kill all these people, I get there like we really need people to be vaccinated because we can't lose half our fucking country. Like they don't know. And if anything, the issue is the way it was handled probably wasn't the best. And now.
01:32:40
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in 2025, if we have a real pandemic, like a Ebola outbreak or something where it really is killing people, now you're gonna have a bunch of people like me, they're like, ah, last time we kind of let you know. So now, and if anything, it fucked us up, because now when there is a real pandemic, and as we all just learned, we can have pandemics, I don't think up until then, I don't think anyone was worried about a pandemic. And now it's like that shit can happen, like we can lock down the world for years if that happens. That was a wild time. And we were still living in it. So in the event any Ebola outbreak comes, like something that actually does have like a 40% mortality rate or something, now you're gonna have all these people that are like, I'm not getting the vaccine, if they come up with one. So like, if anything, I feel like now we're just even more fucked, because now no one trusts the government, so if something really, it's like the boy who cried wolf. Like the cried wolf on this one, they fucked up a little bit, and I think maybe had the wrong intentions, and now we're on a good spot. I'm not gonna say 100%, but if something like this happens in the future,
01:33:30
Speaker
And they're like, hey, this is something different. And this time we know a little bit more about it. And this time we have the Vax. I'm probably still gonna get it. If it's a 40% mortality rate. Yeah, I think I look at it statistically. I was like, at my age, it had, I think the same mortality rate as like the flu. I'll take those odds. I'm cool with that. But if you said there's a 40% chance you're going to die if you don't get the vaccine, like, I'll get the vaccine.
Insect Interactions and Humor
01:33:51
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I'll just see what happens, I guess.
01:33:55
Speaker
stressful time. That people are me mad about that. Someone's going to be like, on which side? People are going to attack me or you. Yeah. Both. But I'm just waitin', dude. Waitin' for that late night ad. Like ah the asbestos ads you see? It's gonna be the COVID ad. What's the the thing? It's like, do you or a loved one ah have experience with like, melophelioma? A mesophelioma or something? What is that? i No fucking clue. But yeah, like the asbestos stuff. I'm waitin' for it. I'm just waitin' for that like, did you or a loved one get the vaccine? Or on the flip side, Joe, what if it comes out in a couple years, all of a sudden, I can start flying? With superpowers. And I can start bein' like,
01:34:31
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You're a trash or new strain of Coof comes out way higher mortality rate. You have a little bit of protection. I don't takes me out. Cause we're not going away. They still have strains floating around. She's at this point, no one gives a shit. Look for all y'all that are aware, essentially I have a little fortify and some barrier shield up on my, my character right now. Oh, okay. That's doing it. yeah You don't have any of that. You're a witch dude. You wouldn't understand my barbarian fortify stuff. Yeah, I'm right. Yeah. I think on that one, it's going to be a, an interesting topic to see what will be the, from the animals to hunting to max saying that he smacks bees away from him.
01:35:04
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Like, so what am I supposed to do if if if I'm seeing a bee? Let's say I can almost, like, I'm seeing it in slow motion. He won't sting you, unless you're going after them. Okay. A bee can fly by and land on you, and I don't think it'll sting you. Are they gonna land on you, or they don't take off?
01:35:16
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It only doesn't until it does, bro. That is like the, there's an alligator in my bag. His name is Steve in my, in my back. Yeah, I named him. You know, we and him are cool now, but I was like, Oh, I should get this alligator out of the lake. And some people are like, no, you can now. I think it has to be a certain size. It's a six and a half foot. I don't think it's big enough. I think it has to be a certain size or it has to have caused an issue, which he hasn't.
01:35:39
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It doesn't cause an issue until it does. I know, but but why don't you throw Senna in the water and see if it's a nice alligator, wrestle an alligator to the ground. I'm just like, that asshole I don't have, I don't want to figure out if that B is going to sting me. Self-defense mode, auto mode. Okay. If a B is coming at me like bubble boy, like just, yeah, I'm, I'm punching every B in the face, bro. Hornet. I will give you a horn. I won't mess with it. But when he's coming towards me, I'm yeah. But bro, what I'm saying is when it's coming at me, yeah am I going to be like pause?
01:36:09
Speaker
what are you hard with what what bugs what just one What distinct features? No, no, that's not a hornet. are You can tell the difference between the two, but... Not in the time! They're flying so fast, bro! Are you the kind of guy, like, if anything lands on you, you freak the fuck out? Or you, like, if a ladybug lands, you're just like, oh, it's a ladybug. Or you just, like, anything touches you, you're just swinging.
01:36:25
Speaker
If I'm driving in a bug, I mean, I'm going to cause a 10 car pile up because I can swear of a media. Oh, but yeah. No, I can. If if bugs land on me, I'm flailing. Yeah, i'm I'm usually pretty good about I just don't like cockroaches. wait So something random if a bug if you were to like a sound of bug like like ah on you, would you be like?
01:36:44
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No, I mean, I probably would like smack it away. I don't think I'm swerving in my car. But like, I mean, I'm immediately just i whatever this could be that a new bug that gives you magical powers. He is dying he is dying on my neck. I assume that there's nothing in my car that I didn't see before. So it's probably something chill. Like I assume if there's a giant wasp in my car, I probably saw it before I got in the car. Look, there's a lot of spiders that are around like my house that I'm like, y'all are cool. Y'all are eating all those bugs. Look, we don't have a problem. Okay. But if it's I don't have time to decide if a spider's poisonous or not. No, a spider jumps on me. I'm freaking out a little bit. I don't like spiders. I hate spiders. They're like another thing that I'm not a huge fan of. It's all those legs, dude. All those eyes. I don't know what it is. Well, Black Widow when I was little spiders and spiders have wieners.
01:37:30
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They have to have sex somehow, right? Do animals? Do insects have wieners? Do you have a wiener? Dude has a fucking... Dude has a unit. Some... God, see, that's one I don't know. Some insects can, like, clone themselves. Some animals can do that. I think there's, like, certain lizards and stuff that can do that, so... What is that about their wieners? I don't think all insects, like, mate. I think some do, though. I think some definitely do. I don't think it's the same way that we do. But I think they do have to have a male and a female, so...
01:38:00
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Mmm, I'm sorry. I don't know which way they identify of two bugs. I have to do some stuff. Yeah Bug bug wiener sex is how we're gonna are some animals that can I think seahorses are one like flip. No. Yeah seahorses are No clownfish a clownfish can go from being a male to a female Depending on its environment like if ah if there's a bunch of girl clownfish I think one of them can turn into a male to help the other ones procreate How does that happen? Look it up. I don't know, but I think clownfish is one of the ones that can do that. There's some animals that can like switch and then there's some animals that can get themselves pregnant. Like there's some animals that by themselves, they can lay eggs and have babies without another. That's that's mother Mary. That's it's like cloning. They like clone themselves into inside of them. Yeah, I think maybe like cuttlefish or something. There's there's certain animals that can do that. sophie but Look it up, dude. We should have a nature podcast. Get a whole little nature thing here. and
01:38:53
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big big nature guy. You know what I really want to talk about in the next episode is I want to not only our outdoor adventure thing, like I wanna walk through, but i want I think we should do a zombie, like a zomb not like into the world, but like zombie, like what like what do you actually, zombies are coming. so so Like I wanna know the exact plan. i know i don't want Cause I kind of have one in my head. But as I'm moving, I am realizing that like, i am if there's another pandemic, I'm fucked. I have like four water bottles and like a bag of cheese. Like I have nothing in my fridge. I'm very not prepared for the end of the world.
01:39:26
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zombie apocalypse happens right now. I have a lot of ammo and guns but like I have no food. I have no water. We should know gas in my truck. Like I'm I'm fine. We should talk about ah apocalyptic times in the next one. I would be a good guy to know for the gun side of it.
01:39:39
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Yeah, put the bullets in and press the trigger and it goes boom. Some shit popped off a while back and I ended up with like 4,000 rounds of 556. I have a lot of ammo for an AR. I don't know what that means. I could keep us safe for a long time, but i need I need people like you to give me food. I'll trade you mine. I have a lot of sour strips. And protein powder. that's a Yeah, that's a good good topic for the next one. If people still want to have you back, so make sure you smash that thumbs up button.
01:40:06
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I'm going to put Joe's, uh, you, why, why do I even put your YouTube channel at this point? I'm not even planning another video until I move. I have no, no plans. Things are bad right now, dude. TRX. Yeah. We're after our stuck somewhere. My GT3 RS is being built, but I don't have it yet. Sure thing about, I built a channel about cars and I don't, I don't have any cars. It's wild to say I have a TRX and a GT3 and I'm sitting here like, I don't have any cars.
01:40:31
Speaker
I saw every every like every every time I see a GT3, I think of you. yeah Today I saw one zooming by. It was like bright yellow GT3. Honestly, this sounds really shitty, but like I sometimes realize that like I'm such a dickhead when it comes to that stuff. Cause I'm like, now that the three RS is coming.
01:40:47
Speaker
I'm like, I'm like, oh, I don't have a car. I'm so bored. I don't have a car. Like I have a GT3 in the garage, but I'm just like, ah, until the three hours gets here. Like I don't have a car. I don't want to go to car shows until my three hours comes in. You know, the the exact same way that like when I point out a Porsche and go like, oh, that's so sick. And you go, that's the this shitty ass model of it. Like that's not even the good one. Now I know what it feels like because because like when people are like, damn dude, that's a sick Jeep over there. I'm like, this guy's, he's, that is freaking, he doesn't even have coilover. Like that's, I go to the bank cause I'm like, no, no, no, no. That's, I know what a sick Jeep is and that's not a sick Jeep. You're like, I know what a good Porsche is. That's not a good Porsche. Well, anyways, I'm sitting here saying I have no content. I still have two sick cars. I need to make the TRX video. If you want to do it at some point. If you want to get no views, you can make a video about my big Jeep. I would like to do that too. I have,
01:41:30
Speaker
It's just a time and want to do it thing. Like I have, not even just like pumping myself up here, like I have two McLarens, two Ferraris, like high-end Ferraris, a couple other things, your Jeep, like access to. Yeah, like I have people like with cars that want to loan them to me to do videos on and like, I just need to find like the weekend, go I just don't, especially while it's 104 degrees every day, I have no desire to go do this. like And it's kind of like, you know, Diablo just came out and I'm still trying to level up my character. I swear I'm at right now. i'm level of my character It's not a lack of content, I just don't want to go film it.
01:41:59
Speaker
Which makes me sound even worse, but like... Well dude, if this video gets 5,000 likes, Joel make a new video. I know it won't. 2,500. That's... 2,500. We'll go 3,000. What am I doing at 3,000? Making a YouTube video. Okay. If this gets 3,000 likes, then before the next episode, you'll have three weeks to make a YouTube video. I can do that.
01:42:23
Speaker
He won't do that. But that will wrap up this two hour episode of Don't Be Sour, which I don't even know what the hell we talked about. If you like these random ass episodes with Joe, dude it's it's gonna get to a point very soon where it's either gonna be like just me or just you and me every week. Because I- Why don't we do someone else? Like me, you, and someone else? Who? I don't know, somebody, anyone. I'll get people. I have friends.
01:42:50
Speaker
Okay, thank you guys so much. ah Like, comment, subscribe, hit the notification bell, leave a comment down below if you're on any sort of podcast streaming service, give us a five-star review, don't know what it does, but I think it helps. Thank you so much for tuning in. New episodes every every Monday, 9 a.m. Eastern time until there's no more episodes. Eat more sour strips and never forward. Goodbye. I have to pee so bad. Early two hours? That's the first one we didn't drink.
01:43:18
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That's the first episode I've done where I am totally sober. Which is good, can