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Yapping about the 2026 Oscar nominees
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In this episode of PodSlop, Unnamed FilmSlop Representative and Bald Ann Dowd yap about the 2026 Oscar nominations.
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Celebrating 100 Episodes of Podslop
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oh i pardon i saw ipod most ah my singing talents are unfortunately not very good but Welcome back. We're back. Podslop's back. We're back. We never left. You guys just didn't.
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I was actually, I was going to text you. i was like, should you just gaslight people into thinking we've been releasing episodes every two weeks? It's our 100th episode extravaganza. Thank you so much, all of our lovely listeners. We're so happy to be here. This is Podslop.
The Founding and Ethos of Film Slop
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It's been a great 10 For those who have not been our 10 year journey where we release episodes every week and we don't have pauses between our episodes, let me give you a little bit of context. This is Podslop. We're a podcast brought to you from Film Slop.
00:00:52
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Film Slop is a film review site. um Film Slop to me right now is haven, as dramatic as that sounds. It started because a few friends and i used to write and freelance for different websites. We would do the whole It was definitely related.
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Sorry. ah Sorry. I unlocked my phone to answer my mom and it got loud. Okay, continue. I was about to get really fucking pretentious about Film Slop. Go, go, go, go, go. Don't mind if white boy gets a little pretentious tonight. Thank God. I'm about to get so fucking pretentious. I'm not a pretentious person, but it only comes out when I talk about Film Slop. um But Film Slop's my baby. i We used to freelance a lot. We used to write for different websites. And I've always loved movies. Movies, to me, have been the best way to see the world through someone else's eyes. They've been a way for me to experience an empathetic medium. It's about how I live my life and how other people live their lives. It's just about connectivity and the human condition and whatever bullshit you would write about in high school English. um But once I started writing for it, I think something changed. I started thinking about movies in terms of quantification. I started trying to assign scores to them, and it started feeling like homework. The magic of why I love movies wasn't there. So a couple friends and I started Film Slop, and the ethos that we've been approaching Film Slop with has been... really about bridging personal narrative with film reviews. So it's less about whether a movie is good or bad. I don't think that anyone is really qualified to declare if something is good or bad. It's more about whether you like the film, why you like the movie, and what it means for you.
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I think the way that we engage with movies is about where you see yourself within the context of a film. And I think it's really dumb to quantify movies because real enjoyment comes from treating a film as a way to insert yourself and your lived experience into a shared moment.
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So this is what Film Slop's about. um I'll talk more about it at some point eventually, but that's the TLDR with a bunch of words that I hope they mean something. um Yeah. How do you feel about that, Sivy?
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And Zendaya is Michi. Thank you. That's all I wanted to hear. um Yes. Okay. but So this is Pot Slop. We are Slop. This is the much less refined, thoughtful place.
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It's more so a forum for us to just get a little silly with it. Right. And who is us for the listeners who have not been constantly listening to our thing?
Meet the Hosts of Podslop
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Oh, God. To our weekly episodes? To our weekly episodes that we've been releasing constantly. I'm Sivvy. i'm better known, I guess, online as Bald Ant Dowd.
00:03:36
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do you ever do you ever feel ashamed when you have to say that out loud? Literally every time. it's like yeah it's It's cool. You're doing really great things. You're hilarious online. But it's also like, this is my alter ego where I'm on the internet.
00:03:48
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I feel like a child star. i have like a lot of empathy for people who come up on like dog shit shows. You're like Honey Boo Boo. And then try to win an Oscar and it's like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Wow. That's you. um Well, this is we're going to get the Oscar for podcasting when they release it in a couple of years.
00:04:04
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Yeah. Globe. Golden Globe first. No, I don't want a Golden Globe. I want to go straight to the Oscars. I don't think the Golden Globes are real. They're not, but I'm boycotting. We have to eat Amy Poehler's lunch for a minute.
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um yeah'm not a I watch a lot of movies. o I'm not claiming to know at all. I'm just here for fun. Yeah, and that's the beauty of Film Slop. That's why we have you, because none of us know anything.
Oscar Nominations and Snubs Discussion
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We're all stupid idiot babies. It's about how a movie affects you. It's about how you understand the context of a film within your life and how it makes you feel closer to the people you care about.
00:04:41
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Or further. um But yeah, I am Ali, representative of Film Slop, writer, editor. If anyone ever wants to write for us, we're always welcoming pitches. Just keep them personal, keep them fun, keep them fresh.
00:04:56
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I hate that I said keep them fresh out loud. No, keep it. We're not cutting that. That's a crazy thing. Okay. Okay. We'll keep it. That's fine. Thanks. Awesome. Ali is currently in his car. and In my car, in the parking lot of the Filipino church. No less. God bless the Filipinos.
00:05:09
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Tonight, we are all Filipino. Tonight, every night in the great city of Daly City where the Filipinos reside. God bless America. Do you want to kick off our 2025 movie chat by speaking briefly about what happened to you in your car?
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Um, yes. So I recently got pulled over by a police officer for driving poorly. Um, I'm usually a good driver. That's not something that I do. I just want to make that clear for all the listeners at home. But I got pulled over and as he was pulling me over, I was listening to the testimony of Emily soundtrack and I had that shit on full volume. Um, it was to the song where they go. I love mother over and over.
00:05:49
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And the cops like about to come. He's like, Hey, why were you doing whatever? I was about to what? He was about to like, hey, why were you going 70 a 50 or something? don't fucking know. Whatever he pulled me over. He looks at me. He's like, what are you listening to? He said was about to come. God forbid.
00:06:08
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Fucking hate you. um This is great. I'm glad we're doing this. um But yeah, the police officer is about to like give me a ticket or whatever. And he's like, what are you listening to? I'm like, brother, let me fucking tell you about the Testament of Ann Lee. Are you familiar with mother? um I just go off for like a five minute tirade about the Testament of Ann Lee, Mona Fastfold's opus and how fucking sick. That's a really surefire way to kind of get into a cop's heart.
00:06:35
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Extremely so. And the thing is, I think. A Mona Fastfold film. I think he was like over the conversation, maybe five minutes into the conversation, but I just kept going. I was like, this is it. This is my opportunity. I'm not fucking getting a ticket. I've been ticket free since 99. I've never gotten and a ticket in my life. I will continue that trend. So I just kept fucking going. I was like, dude, so it's like about the shakers and the shakers. They're celibate. But you think they're like crazy, but in reality, they're actually not crazy.
00:06:59
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things they're doing, it's really cool. Like they have no racism, they have no homophobia. And he's just like, he's trying to get me to stop in every five minutes. I'm like, no, no, look. So there's a song on the soundtrack where Lewis Pullman, he goes, bow down, oh Zion. And it's like, you think it's like, ooh, this sounds kind of creepy, but when you listen to it's like, holy shit. So I just, I i kind of talked, I just kept going until the guy was like, I'm going to give you a warning. Don't drive like that again. And I was like, yes, sir. Whatever you say, sir. Yes, papa. um And that was, that was cool.
00:07:24
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And then he started shaking. he He crumbled in fear by the light of mother. He took off his cop uniform. And he renounced his position. And he just he just started. He renounced socks. He invented the wheel. and What did they invent? They invented like a bunch of wicker baskets and stuff.
00:07:41
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not the wheel you say the wheel they invented some crazy stuff there was like that montage where they're like they'd show like wow dude and lee invented a lot of things i don't know the other 51 yeah yeah i don't like that you don't like that i said that that's okay we're keeping that as well tough luck i'm eating what you eat just for the folks at home can you can we get a little bit chewing action in there can you make it more pronounced okay wait Should I also eat? i have car goldfish, if that's a thing we're into.
00:08:14
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It's not a very loud food. It's the Trader Joe's Sour Strawberry Candy Belt with natural flavoring. And they're damn good. They sound very good.
00:08:26
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That sounds delicious. Kind of in the way that like your friend who wasn't allowed to have sugar in the house would like give you something that was good, you know what i mean? yeah and they like sneak it in and you'd be like yeah it's like i you know anyways testament of ann lee 2025 has been a pretty great year for movies um so think makes sense that the oscar noms this year are all pretty solid mostly mostly because you can't go wrong but somehow they find a way to go wrong
00:08:58
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I will say Amanda Seyfried not receiving a nomination for playing Emily is horrendous. After all of the brutalist glazing last year. Insane. And I think you you said this earlier, but Emily does eat the brutalist lunch money. It's pretty fucking phenomenal. And he wipes the floor with that movie. Emily fucking clears that ass. At like half the run time. Also, Amanda Seyfried is like doing things in that movie that I did not know were possible.
00:09:24
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And she's cool as fuck. She's like, I don't need an Oscar. I've made it this far without an Oscar. She would want the nomination, though. Period. i In my heart, I've nominated her. Yeah, I've nominated her.
00:09:35
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i have some alternate um nominees that I'd like to talk about. oh Should we save that until we start about the actual nominees first? yeah We can get into our alts. you want to start from the bottom, below the line stuff, run through it really quick, and then get to the big stuff?
00:09:52
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Or do you want to do big stuff and then sprinkle in the little stuff? I think we should start from the bottom and then do the big stuff and then we can do our ranking, our like personal ranking of the big stuff. Okay.
00:10:03
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um Okay. Okay. They have adapted an original screenplay at the bottom of this list, but those to me are the coolest. Original screenplay is the coolest award. um Okay. i haven't seen the short films.
00:10:18
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I'll be honest with you. i i've seen I've seen a few of them, and we've interviewed some directors who made it on the shortlist. And I just want to give a quick shout because we are publishing some interviews with them. They didn't make the final nomination award, but there is an animated one called Eero, which is...
00:10:35
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about it's like an Irish fairy tale, but it's the director is she's inserted quite a lot of herself. It's about taking care of the little ones, focusing on the world around you. It's very cute. It's very special. Highly recommend it. um I can't speak about it highly enough. I won't talk too much about it directly just because I don't want to give away anything. But I think the animation style is really cool and I'm famously an animation hater.
00:10:59
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um And then one called Rock, Paper, Scissors, which Another director who is 26, which is my age, which makes me feel really ashamed of what I'm doing because he's like out there filming things and like putting war stories out on the ground. um And I'm like, my job is computer. i go click clock finance boy during the day. And this guy's like making really cool stuff. So check those out. I haven't seen the other ones, though, but those two I'm big about.
00:11:24
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Fabulous. um I'm currently Googling how many consecutive Diane Warren nominations. Wait, okay hold up, hold up. Because i is the is the Diane Warren. is Is that the song she sings or is that the one that Kesha sings in the documentary about Diane Warren?
00:11:38
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It says, Dear Me from Diane Warren, colon, Relentless, music and lyrics by Diane Warren. I believe it is performed by Kesha because Kesha yesterday posted a screenshot of a text from Diane Warren that said, we were nominated.
00:11:54
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And it made me laugh really hard because the concept, wait, I have to read what the exact text said, because the concept of receiving this message from Diane Warren on my direct cellular device made me laugh really hard. That's phenomenal.
00:12:11
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um While you look into that, I will tell people the story about how I was in Yellowstone with 10 of my friends and we had a big minivan and i held them hostage and made them listen to Kesha's new album because it bangs really hard. um And some of them disagreed, but they had no choice because I was driving. so I just kept making them listen to it until they all agreed that it was a really good album.
00:12:30
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No other choice. Exactly. Another movie that has a lot of Oscar presence for us. We'll get there. Okay. Original song. Dear Me from Diane Warren, colon, and Relentless, music and lyrics by Diane Warren.
00:12:43
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She's been nominated every year. This is the Diane Warren Award. um Golden from K-pop Demon Hunters, which has been cleaning up. And this is going to Golden. My third graders love K-pop Demon Hunters.
00:12:55
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It's insane. Wow. I have not seen it yet. I also haven't seen it, but I can tell you everything that happens in it because when I'm like, guys, we need to learn today. And they're just like, no, I'm going to tell you about K-pop demon hunters. And I also am incapable of yelling or discipline. So i'm just like, fuck, whatever. Tell me about K-pop demon hunters. And every week, the same story. I hear it all the time. And they're like, yeah, dude, the Saga boys, they're really good. I'm just like, that's really cool, man. Can we move on? And they're like, no. And I have no choice because I have no power in this situation. um But I've heard great things.
00:13:25
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Um, third nominee. I lied to you from sinners. This is banger. This one banks. My top song this year was Rocky road to Dublin, which feels racist, but it adds and yeah have to I wouldn't like tell people that I'm saying it on a forum. Everybody can hear it. I know the lyrics. I like to, I like to listen to it. i also like I lied you, which is really good. Also, aren't you enjoying me interrupting you for a five minute tirade after every single?
00:13:51
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I love it. Amazing. Fourth nominee, Sweet Dreams of Joy from Viva Verde. which i have nothing to say about i don't know what that, i that's not ah not in the world I'm living in. And then number five, the one we've all been waiting for, Train Dreams from Train Dreams. God bless. Is that the one where he's in the airplane?
00:14:12
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but Sure. Could be anything. have no idea. Cool. Achievement and visual effects. We've got Avatar, Fire, and Ash, F1, Jurassic World Rebirth, The Lost Bus, and Sinners.
00:14:24
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The Lost Bus. Inshallah, they find it. Heyo. I have not seen The Lost Bus. I have not seen Jurassic World of Rebirth. I have not seen Avatar, Fire, and Ash. And I have not seen More on that later. But I i i don't know.
00:14:42
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I have nothing much to say about a lot of these below the line ones. I do have quite a bit to say. Well, I don't know. Achievement in sound. We've got F1, Frankenstein, one battle after another, Sinners, and Surat.
00:14:57
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Surat is just loud. there's a lot of There's a lot of sound stuff going on in Surat. But to me, that have have you seen it? I have. And I'm not going to take any Surat slander on here. I'm sorry.
00:15:09
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You're a Surat stan? I'm I'm a Surratt defender. I think... where Well, where did you see it? Did you see it at home or did you see it in a theater? I saw it in a theater with people. It was really fun to watch everyone freak out when stuff happened, I will say.
00:15:22
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Yeah. It's a really fun communal experience. As a film, i think it's just not... It's not... It's so aggravating to me because it should be so my bag, this, like, shocking, bleak...
00:15:39
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hopeless, nihilistic film about true, like these people don't have much to that. Like we don't so know much about the backgrounds of these people, but it kind of doesn't matter because they're just wandering the desert. But at a certain point in the runtime, the fact that everything is kind of pointless and everything is leading toward death, it gets a little bit tiresome.
00:16:04
Speaker
just Yeah, I can see that. I think um my buddy Elijah described it as the closest you can get towards dying in a movie theater, which I think is a really awesome descriptor. Yeah. um I know that Neon is delaying the release, so I don't want to spoil it, but it really does feel like kind of dying. It's a very claustrophobic movie. I think it's more of an experience than it is anything. Again, super pretentious thing to say out loud, but...
00:16:27
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The way I felt when I was watching that was fucking sick. um And I do think the sound had something to play with It it was loud. that's That's a big one. um But i can't i can't I'm not a sound guy. I just know how things made me feel. And this one made me feel crazy style.
00:16:43
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This one did give me a bit of panic. um I don't know. i really I've really struggled with this because it should be something that is like so immediately perfect to me, but it just didn't didn't hit the mark. Also, why the fuck would you bring your dog to the desert rave?
00:17:03
Speaker
Maybe they couldn't find a sitter in Spain. i don't know. Don't piss me off. Yeah. Anyway. um Actually, let's do the screenplay nominations right now.
Technical Achievements in Film
00:17:13
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Oh, yeah. Adapted screenplay. Begonia.
00:17:18
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Frankenstein. Hamnet. One battle after another. f***ing dreams. I think one battle is taking this. They've been taking everything. everythinging Yeah, without without a doubt. um It's also my favorite of the bunch.
00:17:30
Speaker
Most of these are fine What are you riding for? I know what you're riding for here. no We're going to save what I'm riding for because I'm a strong defender. I'm a ham boy 100, brother.
00:17:42
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um okay writing original screenplay this is such a cool award congrats to all the nominees i know you've been waiting for me to say congrats um they will be listening to this blue moon quiet like i fucking loved blue moon i mean if we're talking if we're talking positive surprises everything involving blue moon made me the happiest thing yeah ethan hawk being like five feet tall is so delightful i don't know shit about musical theater but i watched this and i had such a good time so if anyone out there is like i don't want to watch that it's not my thing don't worry about it just let it wash over you um yeah it's like it was been oh go ahead it's like a diva off i think it's the only way it really is it's just like a guy being a diva ethan hawk is one of our best guys he's diva
00:18:31
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stevea Yeah, I don't know a shit about musical theater either, but I was like, t dude, fucking yeah keep going. I want to spend my life with you, brother. um okay this uh this category is crazy stacked it's blue moon it was just an accident marty supreme code sentimental value and goaded goaded goaded i would be happy with any of these it's so there this is almost a boring conversation to have because so many of these categories are going to be me just being like okay love them all no i think um i mean i'm excited to know why you love them like i'm i want to know the parts of you that
00:19:08
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spoke to. you I'm excited for to do our best nom rankings just because I want to know like what each of them are. Sinners just became the most nominated film in Oscar history and it is a completely original script by Ryan Coogler. He like believed in his vision. He negotiated this crazy deal where the rights revert back to him after 25 years and they did it and he shot it and I met like everything about this is cool as fuck and it's fun to watch and there's so much to the film I have only seen it once I'm planning a rewatch because I just need to like go in again um but just like such a cool movie um sentimental value obviously is very much my bag one of my favorite films of all time is the worst person in the world which we've promised we've promised that worst person in the episode
00:19:56
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oh For like five years now that we're going to do. Definitely. we really No, we released it. We released it. Right. You're right. And if you didn't hear it, then that's on you. yeah Just such a beautiful movie. um I don't think it's as perfect as The Worst Person in the World, but it is stunning and everyone in it is great. And it's ah it's a great script. ah Marty Supreme.
00:20:21
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if i If Marty Supreme won... I would be really excited, I think. I loved... Did you like Marty? Have we talked about Marty? Yeah, i I loved Marty. I think it's a lesser Uncut Gems, but Uncut Gems is a perfect movie. um So I'm not complaining. It's still a good version of something great.
00:20:41
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Yeah. I'd be happy with that. yeah just create Just Ronnie Bronstein and um um just this year, Ronald Bronstein and Mary Bronstein going absolutely crazy. Also, if I had legs, I'd kick you might be one of the best of the year. The more I think about it. It absolutely is.
00:21:01
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And we'll get into that. Yeah, we'll um get all that. It was just an accident. Jafar Panahi is just the coolest of all time. um If you are unaware of what he's kind of up to.
00:21:12
Speaker
ah Google it, bitch. um He is an Iranian dissident. The government banned him from making films. So he spent so many years kind of coming up with workarounds and making films of like not technically film footage. It's crazy.
00:21:30
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um He made this film. It got nominated here. I'm very glad. He was kind of not recognized in a lot of other categories, which pissed me off because this is a really um this a really good movie and he's a very talented filmmaker. And yeah we're getting more recognition.
00:21:47
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I feel like it should be a lock for Best Picture. but I was so surprised. I was sure that this was going to be the 10th Best Picture nominee. um Alas. Sometimes you got begonia in there.
00:21:58
Speaker
Alas. Begonia is not the enemy. No, neither is f one for that matter. No, we all know what the enemy is and we're going to bleep it. Of these, I think my favorite was Sentimental Value.
00:22:12
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It's not as good as Worst Person in the World, but they're both somehow perfect movies. um Just varying degrees of perfection. But Sentimental Value is magic. Yeah, when I think about who I want to win and how and where and who I want to be able to go up on stage and accept awards, I would be really happy with Sentimental Value winning this. I want Joachim Trier specifically to give a speech and be up there because he's the he's the coolest guy of all time.
00:22:38
Speaker
He's like a skater and a DJ and he's attractive and like funny and cool. I will say skater and a DJ. I don't know if that hits my definition of cool, but the other stuff. yeah No, but you would think.
00:22:50
Speaker
You hear that and you would think, okay. But then you see him in real life and you're like, whoa. He's a stud. Also, I think I walked past him in Union Square one time and he had that shit on.
00:23:04
Speaker
You should have just said hi. Should have like poked He was walking. I don't like to bother people. He should have been like, can I touch you? yeah just nothing else and then like poke him in the face and walk away he would have thought about that for the rest of his life yeah that's my move at the club they love that ladies love that they're really into that um okay achievement in production design frankenstein hamnet marty supreme one battle after another and sinners sick
00:23:37
Speaker
all sick production design i actually if frankenstein won this i would not be upset i thought that movie looked cool yeah there are some awards that frankenstein deserves and there are others that it doesn't i think if frankenstein kind of cleans up like below the line that's fine but if frankenstein's winning like anything bigger cleaning up below the line is what they called me in high school haha um i think this should low-key i think this should go to marty i I wouldn't be mad at any of them. I think they're all good. They have a stage production. is sick. The Marty stuff was sick. Frankenstein's sick. Everything else is sick.
00:24:16
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We're really giving a lot of insight here. um or did Original score. Oh, let me go off. Okay. We got begonia, Frankenstein, Hamnet, one battle after another and sinners notice that Marty Supreme is not nominated here. Daniel la Patten was not nominated here last year. Challengers, Trent Reznor and Atticus Ross were also not nominated. So what does the Academy have against cool electronic music?
00:24:45
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Makeup, Hairstyling, and Technical Categories
00:24:58
Speaker
I'd like to i'd like to figure out what's going on here.
00:25:01
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Okay. Achievement and makeup. Oh, do you have a pick for a score? um honestly sinners i mean yeah yeah luig ludwig my boy yeah well you can't you can't go wrong with a movie that does that's like centered around music yeah yeah yeah oppenheimer score hits okay um what what you talking about i've never seen him when that oppenheimer score hits i get so gay on the oppenheimer score i know on the oppenheim
00:25:32
Speaker
Yeah. remember Remember that week when I was just straight up texting you only in Spongebob Drake lyrics? Yeah. There was like a week where at work, the only thing but i would say was, i need a one bob over and over again. Whenever someone would ask me to do something, i'd be like, I need a one bob.
00:25:47
Speaker
Should i read your texts to me? At a certain point, yeah. We have to sing them. um Hold on, I'm pulling it up now. Amazing. It deserves a place here. This is this is great podcasting.
00:25:59
Speaker
A lot of our texts are you texting me and then me texting back like six months later. Because you hate me and you want me dead. No, because i truly my phone doesn't work. My messages don't go to my phone because I don't have storage. Dusty, cut that out. I don't want people knowing I'm a loser.
00:26:14
Speaker
Okay. The text read as follows. Wednesday, January 7th, 3 20 a.m. I need a one bob dot dot. Gotta to have a square in my pants.
00:26:27
Speaker
Separate message. I know when that SpongeBob square. Separate message. That can only mean one bob. Wednesday, January 7th, 1058 AM. m She said, do you sponge me? i tell her only Bob Lee. I only sponge my Bob and my square pants. I'm sorry.
00:26:45
Speaker
The next day, 11, 12 p.m., I said, fuck, this is good. I was fucking with it. Thank you. Thank you. And then I said, I'm laughing so fucking hard at your review of The Housemaid, which is true.
00:26:57
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People were getting mad at you in the comments. and it was People are still getting mad. I'm getting emails where they're like, one was really mean. It like hurt my feelings. You're getting emails? Well, i have I have emails from Letterboxd on for the comments. But one...
00:27:11
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One of them was like, if you're a woman, this is pick me behavior. But if you're a man, you should kill yourself. And then the next one was like, just check your profile. You're a man. Go back to being breastfed. Like, geez, it's not like this is I clearly don't mean any of the things I said here. Like, it's a five paragraph review about just like me doing bits by myself.
00:27:31
Speaker
You didn't even say anything bad about the movie. No, I did not. There's like very little related to the movie in that thing. um I will say every like for every bad comment, there are five other ones where people are like, I just told my mom about this. I just showed this to my wife and we love you. Can you join our throuple? And like, look, there needs to be a middle ground where you just give it a like and you don't need to comment.
00:27:52
Speaker
I love you and my fans and all that. But some of this is so you don't want to find sexual partners based on your review of The Housemaid starring Sydney Sweeney. No, I would do it for some of my other reviews, not for that one specifically. um Oh, yeah, you got proposed to.
00:28:06
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I did get proposed to. That was sick. She like sent me like a 10-paragraph thing where she like told me she was 5'4", she had brown eyes and freckles. She sounded beautiful, but in the moment, I was not available for any of that nonsense. well Well, if you're ready to convert to Islam, we can start a lot further.
00:28:24
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I'm trying to find your... I want to do a... i want to do like I really want to do a dramatic reading of your Housemaid review. Dude, that's going to take like 10 minutes. It is so long. I don't know what I was on when I was writing that bullshit. I talk fast. Okay.
00:28:37
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We'll do it. We'll do it at the end for the listeners who stick around for the next hour. Okay. If it's even an hour, it might be three. Okay. ah Next up, achievement and makeup and hairstyling. We got Frankenstein.
00:28:50
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Kokuho, which I have not seen, but apparently Tom Cruise is like riding hard for this movie. Okay. Have you heard of this? It's the Japanese one. Yeah. I will say Tom Cruise rides hard for some random shit, so I'm not like... That's not the biggest seller, but I've heard really good things about it.
00:29:06
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Okay. Have not seen it. Seems cool. um Sinners. The Smashing Machine. um We got the second Safdie in here somewhere. um And then The Ugly Stepsister.
00:29:18
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o Have you seen Ugly Stepsister? Yes, I saw it at the very beginning of 2025. I loved it. that's like I really fucking like it. It's like if the substance wasn't for babies, which again, I like the substance, but this is like... Yeah, no, I liked the... Like like the what Like the the period trappings of it. I like that it was fairytale that we know and it was set in a specific time and place and we're comfortable in that. And then what came from that was really interesting. I love the shot of the worm in her mouth. Oh my God, not the worm.
00:29:55
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I don't remember movies. Like, it's becoming an issue in my life. Like, I don't remember should figure that out. But I don't remember what it will stick with me. And the visual of the of her pulling the worm. um Yeah. the tap That was crazy. Pulling the worm. That was awesome. I think someone described the substance as, like, baby's first body horror, which I agree with. This is intense. Like, I was squirming in my seat when I watched it. It was like, holy fuck, this is awesome. The toes? Yeah.
00:30:21
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Itosha was crazy. I don't like feet generally, but add that layer. A brave admission. A brave admission of me not having a foot. I'll kill you for that in this day. Sorry. Sorry again to our fellow listeners if you are foot guys.
00:30:34
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um I thought Frankenstein looked awesome and I think it's like most likely that the Academy has seen Frankenstein the most or maybe sinners the most. But if the ugly stepsister snagged this, I'd be so happy.
00:30:48
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I mean, there's no shots winning, but it's really cool to see get nominated. i How would it be for a Shudder movie to win an Oscar? Yeah. um Oh, yeah. The other one I want to talk about, which we're not going to talk about ever again, is Smashing
International and Documentary Nominations
00:31:00
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Machine. A movie that I did not necessarily like, but I don't like how mean people are being to the other Safdie brother. like I always say, yeah. Yeah. It's not a good movie, but there are some really cool directorial moves. like He just picked a bad story to adapt, but he's clearly got the juice and the talent. He's not the talentless one in this relationship. They're both very talented.
00:31:18
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I bought Benny Stock a long time ago, and I want to say this. He didn't have Ronnie Bronstein. Yeah. He didn't have Ronnie. He didn't have... If you get divorced and the other person takes everything in the divorce, you're going to need a minute to find your footing. So everyone give Benny a minute.
00:31:35
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He made the curse. Let's not forget that. Also, like... i mean He's doing crazy shit. He's also an actor. He was in Are You There, God? It's Me, Margaret, which made me cry. he was also in your favorite movie of 2023. yeah Yeah, I just forgot about that. Are either Margaro's goaded? um No, but like, you yeah, like A24 gave fucking Josh a bajillion dollars to make Marty Supreme when it shows and it's great, but they gave him like $20 and a camcorder on The Rock for the smashing machine. He's, it was it looked really good.
00:32:04
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Yeah, he's crushing I was forward by the way it looked. It looked good. It was directorially very strong, but I think he's just like, it's kind of based scene for scene on a documentary. On a documentary, yeah. Yeah, so he's pigeonholed to the narrative trappings of that.
00:32:18
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oh give my friend My friend Katie was ah on the team for that movie. Oh, that's cool. On what? Like the production team? Yeah. Wow. She's goaded.
00:32:29
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She's doing cool things. That's sick. I think she got engaged recently. Congratulations, Katie. Thank you. And Jude. I don't think Katie's ever going to listen to this, but I'll tell her we gave her a shout.
00:32:42
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and She's engaged. She's a very supportive friend. She's a very supportive friend, but I think she has better things to do than listening to this podcast. Thank Katie. Okay, even in casting, Hamnet, Marty Supreme, One Battle After Another, the Secret Agent, and Sinners. i think it would be so cool if The Secret Agent won this.
00:33:02
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I think it would be two I think all of these are valid. um Obviously, again, I'm in Chloe Zhao's bag, and I'm a handboy up 100, but... I think people are being mean to it. For casting? Yes.
00:33:13
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Have you seen the cast? Like the child? They found the best child actor in the world. Jesse Buckley kills it. Paul Mescal is my least favorite part of that movie. But like every other side character fits their role pretty well. It all comes together. like You look at something like Marty or The Secret Agent where every single background actor has just like this face in there. And and to be fair, it is because these are larger these movies are like on a larger scale. There are like four characters in Hamnet.
00:33:38
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Mm-hmm. But just the way they picked these individual people and especially the way Josh Safdie talks about casting his films. I want it to go to one of these. I mean, I'm not knocking.
00:33:50
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i think Mario's Supreme should win it just because of it's like a true achievement casting. And they got like, they did the Sean Baker thing where real people are being actors and whatever. And it's solid. But this is not the achievement in the most casting. It's the achievement in the best casting. And Hamnett did find the best child actor in the world. Do you know how fucking hard it is to sift through talentless children and pick a child out who like can do what that child did?
00:34:15
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I mean, wasn't his brother the older one? Doesn't matter. You found the child. They found the brother. It's a buy one, get one deal. found the brother. You got the child. You got you buy, buy brother, get child free. Buy brother, get child free. Like, you know how hard it is to get a good deal like that. That's fucking, that's impressive. The cast. probably They got Bogo Hamnet casting. Yeah.
00:34:35
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Fuck. Okay. ah Best international feature. Don't piss me off, Academy. The Secret Agent, Brazil. I love the gorgeous and proud nation of Brazil. It was just Max, France. Sentimental Value, Norway, Surat, Spain, and The Voice of Hind Rajab, Tunisia.
00:34:53
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All very good. I'm like like, obviously no other choice was snubbed, but I'm not mad because these are all phenomenal movies. Have you seen Voice of Hind Rajab? Yeah, I've seen all of these. Okay. They're all really fucking good.
00:35:04
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I don't know what we would do to bring no other choice in. It's between Surratt and Secret Agent for me. You writing for Surratt is absolutely blowing my mind. um No, no. I mean, it's between cutting those two.
00:35:17
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Oh. Sentimental Value is the one I like the most. Wait. Wait. What's the one you like the most? What's the one you would cut? Sentimental Value. um I would cut either Surratt Secret Agent.
00:35:29
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Wow. Okay. ah Look, I liked i like Secret Agent. It was just really long. I knew you'd feel the long. like i'm i I enjoyed hanging out. loved the lag. It was a good time. They split the diopeter.
00:35:41
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m And it's with a diopeter. They also have the two-headed cat. They have the leg. And I like hanging out in Brazil, and I think Wagner Moore is the most attractive man in the world in, like, the straightest way possible.
00:35:52
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He's gorgeous. He's extremely handsome. He's, like, not like not in a gay way. I just want to make it crazy. In Narcos, when it was just, like, him and Pedro going head-to-head, I was like, oh, my God. the handsome mis can why why Why am I blushing? Why am i at the cartel blushing? okay He's also got like the, he carries himself with a type of swag where you can like, you can really tell like this is, this is part of the attraction. Like fucked dude. This guy's cool. You can tell he like has a nice dick.
00:36:16
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It's like clean, masculine. Like it's. in a straight way you're You're thinking of this in a straight way? Extremely straight. It's just like his, it's like one of those where I'm like, yeah, that man's probably got a good cut on him.
Directing and Cinematography Achievements
00:36:27
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Like he knows how to use it. It's well camped, know, like it's not super hairy.
00:36:31
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um we could We could definitely bloop a lot of this, but good lord, Dusty. Your production brain going have to do a lot of work. I'm so sorry, brother. That was that was crazy, man. He finally speaks.
00:36:45
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He's alive. Wagner Mora's the power. We're all awake now. um Achievement in film editing. We got F1, Marty Supreme, One Battle After Another, Sentimental Value, and Sinner's.
00:36:59
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good ah um what do you think have you seen f1 i have seen f1 um what's up editing wise and f1 it's solid i mean it's just like a it's a lesser top gun 2 that's what it is it's top gun 2 i also haven't seen top gun 2 um it's solid i mean it's like a dad it's a movie to take your dad to and watch cargo fast there's cool noise it's vroom vroom it's kind of fun it's a little silly i'm not an f1 guy so yeah i know there's a lot of people who are like this not what would happen in real life i'm like dude i don't give a fuck i'm sorry i respect your commitment to the sport of f1 and racing but i like when cargo fast yeah um yeah any of these i kind of don't
00:37:41
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um I don't really care about this as much as the other stuff. I think Marty would be cool because josh edited it. Mm-hmm. I like when a filmmaker edits their own movie. and you want to You want another Sean Baker move?
00:37:53
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Yeah, I've been thinking. Yeah. Yeah. Which... When Sean put up in all those categories, it felt like like... I know a lot of people had a lot of differing opinions about that night, but I think regardless of what you think of him as a person and him as a filmmaker, like it is cool for one person to take like editing, directing, best picture, like all of that yeah is very cool.
00:38:14
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It's cool to do individually. also like... Obviously, i don't think he has good opinions, but... I've heard he's a very charming person. I think Enora might actually be the worst of the Sean Bakers that I've seen, um but he makes a pretty fucking good films. Did you see a Left Hand Girl?
00:38:29
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Not yet. I was going to watch it tonight. Really fucking good. I mean, he produced it, but ah it like runs like Florida Project. Yeah, he just grew who directed, right? Yeah. And then he made Takeout together. yeah of Takeout. She is so talented. The screening I went to, she gave like a little talk, and she is so thoughtful and smart. I'm really glad that you got to see a screening with her.
00:38:49
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Yeah, it was cool. Mill Valley Film Festival. Shout out Mill Valley, California. i Shout out Mill Valley. Shout out Mill Valley. We're always saying that. Shout out. Although that's where all the rich white people in California live. As we say here in New York.
00:39:01
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Shout out Mill Valley, California. Everyone's saying shout out Mill Valley. Visit Brazil. Come to Brazil. Okay, best documentary short film. Before we move on, I do want to apologize to the nation of Brazil. If any of you guys are listening, I love The Secret Agent.
00:39:16
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Please don't send a hit man out to my family. The Nation of Brazil has been so lovely to me because my favorite film of last year was i'm Still Here. i think I'm Still Here was really fucking good. And I think it might be better than Secret Agent, but Secret Agent was pretty good.
00:39:33
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Yeah, I love the Secret Agent. We'll get into that later. um Best documentary feature. Have you seen any of these? um I think I've seen one of them, but read them out to me.
00:39:46
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Have you seen um the Alabama Solution? Come see me in the good light. I have not seen that one. Cutting through rocks. I have not seen that one. Mr. Nobody against Putin. I have not seen that one.
00:39:57
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The perfect neighbor. I have seen that one. That one's the one on Netflix. Okay. alaba a Alabama Solution's pretty pretty solid. Prison industrial complex. Maybe we can do a part two before the Oscars talking through the shorts and the documentary.
00:40:11
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Yeah. That'd agree. Yeah. Could be fun. Okay. Achievement in directing. This category is crazy style. Chloe Zhao, Hamnet, Josh Safdie, Marty Supreme, Paul Thomas Anderson, One Battle After Another, Joachim Trier, Sentimental Value, and Ryan Coogler, Sinners.
00:40:29
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I mean, PTA is going to win it. um All of these people deserve it. Desperately so. um You know where my heart lies, and that's all I'm going to say on the matter. And you're a feminist. Yeah.
00:40:41
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Someone tried to tell me yesterday that Hamnet was misogynist because it centered male auteurs. I was like, but okay, that's the only movie that's like in contention that's directed by woman. You know the truth that everyone is 12? Yeah.
00:40:52
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like There are a lot of things you could go at Hamnet for, but i don't think that's one of them. Look, this is a person who I respect a lot who's giving me this take, but I was also like, i I'm sorry. had to pick something else to go at Hamnet for.
00:41:03
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Sorry, you're having ah an epic 12-year-old moment. um Okay, achievement and costume design. Avatar, Fire, and Ash, Frankenstein, Hamnet, Marty Supreme, and Sinners.
00:41:14
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e Do you have any strong feelings about this? I mean, the costume is an avatar crazy. I'm not a big costume guy. i don't really dress up on Halloween. Usually i dress up as one of my friends. um So i'm I'm not the guy to evaluate costumes, unfortunately.
00:41:28
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Okay. Are you a costumer? I don't. I mean, I look at every piece of clothing in every movie and I'm like, that looks awesome. I agree. Yeah, my expertise is i certainly does not lie there.
00:41:40
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I wear the same pants, which I have like 10 versions of. Yeah, me too.
Lead Acting Nominations and Performances
00:41:45
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It's like a real Steve Jobs situation in my closet. You're a cartoon character, same fit. Yeah. um Okay, cinematography, Frankenstein, Marty Supreme, One Battle After Another, Sinners, and ****ing ****. Wow.
00:42:01
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I will say. All of these are deserving. I think so. I think I'll look nice. Trashions actually really do think looked nice. I will give it that.
00:42:15
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um I want this to go to Autumn Durald-Arkipa for sinners badly. Yeah, that's valid. She is so cool. Did you watch that video she did, like, breaking down?
00:42:29
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I don't even know what it was for. No, but send me a link. What she did on sinners. It was sick. That's, that's exciting. I'm going to try to find it.
00:42:39
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Yeah, I i agree. Good. Sinners look crazy. That's cool. Um, yeah. And then Darius Kanji for a Marty Supreme would also be very cool. I really like him. Okay.
00:42:50
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Anyway. Sick. Is this thrilling, everybody? Super Best animated short, best animated feature. I have not seen these. We can skip the animated shorts. i haven't seen any of those ones either. Okay. We will eventually watch K-pop Demon Hunters and report back. I mean, I think that's just going to sweep everything.
00:43:09
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What do we got for animated feature? Animated feature, we've got Arco. Yeah. Have you seen Arco? No. Neon sent me the screener box set, and I have not gotten to Arco yet.
00:43:20
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It's cute. It's like two things that shouldn't work together. French anime, but I think the evil in both of those things kind of cancel each other out. where it's like a little That's beautiful. But it's like a kid's movie. Okay.
00:43:32
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Elio, which I could have sworn came out three years ago. Yeah, didn't see Elio. K-pop Demon Hunters. Okay, again, my third graders are really into that one. Yeah, a Little Amelie or the Character of Rain.
00:43:45
Speaker
Too long of a title, next. And Zootopia 2. Hell yeah. Zootopia 2 is fucking sick. don't know if you've seen Zootopia 2. I haven't seen Zootopia 1. I would like to dabble the Zootopia 1. I think you should indulge in the Zootopias. Can spoil Zootopia 2 for you?
00:43:57
Speaker
No. Okay, fine. But I just read it. Like, absolutely not. i what What I will say is Zootopia 2 is like a very strong allegory for what Israel is doing in Palestine. Like, the whole thing is like a very... Zootopia? Zootopia 2, especially. Like, the plot line is very much like seller colonialism, get land back, um the bad guys control the weather, which I think is a step too far.
00:44:18
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But... Wow. Oh, sorry, guy Andy, Sam Brees in it. That's sick. um Okay. Now we're getting into the meaty stuff. Performance by an actress in a supporting role.
00:44:31
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Elle Fanning, sentimental value. Goated. We've got Ibs daughter Lilia's sentimental value. Goated. Amy Madigan weapons. Wumi Mosaku for sinners and Teyana Taylor for one battle after another.
00:44:45
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I wasn't gonna say goaded after everyone, but all these are pretty goaded. Amy Madigan, I like that she's become a meme and she's become a part of the culture. I feel like her being the front runner is a little bit insane when you have Inga and Umi Musaku. And Umi is a big surprise that I was really happy about. um I'm KB for Inga. Umi Musaku is the most beautiful woman on earth The most beautiful woman on earth is a title that I will reserve for my wife when I get married to her. But we can be second.
00:45:11
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um Second to my beautiful wife. Angle is doing things with her eyes that had never been invented before they filmed this movie. Pretty swag. Pretty good.
00:45:22
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Pretty solid. Who's your pick? i inga I'm caving for her pretty hard. Okay. We align there. Dormant by an actress in little bit. Actually, before we go, I feel like we got to talk about like how weird the internet is being to L. Fanik.
00:45:36
Speaker
some Some crazy stuff going on there. that What's happening? Just like everyone's like her butt. They're like, oh, look at Elphana's butt. mean, does have a great butt. She has a great butt, but like the way people are talking about it makes me not want to admire her butts. don't speak I'm not speaking on her, but the internet's being really weird about it. No, not you, the internet. Yeah. No, like I'm all for admiring a great butt. I think we should cherish beauty and we should celebrate it. But I think everything I see about the internet talking about butts, I'm just like, I want nothing to do with you.
00:46:04
Speaker
Yeah. What about her mind? mean, I'm sure her mind is great. She was in Predator. What about her talent? um she's good talent she was not the best part of sentimental value she was or was not was not the best part was ingo ingo was my favorite part for sure yeah she's um and it makes me sad that of all of the acting nominees stellan is the one who was like kind of poised to win and he's really the only one who's like pulling ahead i mean i thought he was great but the draw of that movie for me was the three women Yeah, I mean, Inga, number one.
00:46:34
Speaker
I did like when Stallone gave that child a piano teacher. That was a good bit. yeah that Yeah, every time I saw it in theaters, everyone laughed and laughed and laughed. It's pretty fucking funny. It's like key jingling for people to watch a movie.
00:46:51
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Yeah. Okay, performance by an actress in a leading role. Yeah. Yeah. earn if you have like you Yeah. Song Song Blue.
00:47:02
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Okay. Fernando Arias was Sentimental Value. Yeah. And Emma Stone, Begonia. What I want to say about this category is I love Emma Stone, obviously. She's one of our greats. She's like arguably our biggest our greatest actress right now. um What I will say is I watched two films this year.
00:47:27
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one being The Chronology of Water, directed by Kristen Stewart, led by Imogen Gay Poots. Thank you for saying her full name. That was the performance of the year. That is the best acting performance of the year, hands down, to me. I have i have yet to see it. I'm excited. I think what she was doing that what she was doing in that film thrilled me. I loved it.
00:47:48
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I understand that it might not be for a lot of people like structurally, but i i yeah I was rocking with the chronology of water. And then also, Jennifer Lawrence in Die My Love I thought was fabulous.
00:48:01
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Yes, I agree. That's a really good movie. um All right. It's a good movie, but I think the problem with that movie is it's the same movie as If I Had Legs, I'd Kick You, but If I Had Legs, I'd Kick You was one of the greatest films of all time um with some of the greatest performances of all time where Die My Love, really good performances also. but Yeah. But it's no legs, um which brings us to The Rose Byrne, which maybe Jesse Buckley is in threat, but I'm very happy for either of those two to win.
00:48:29
Speaker
They are deeply deserving. they There was one tie in Oscars history, and if it happened again here, I would be thrilled. Overjoyed, perhaps. Yeah, I think Emma Stone, i like i feel the same way about her role in Begonia as I do about Begonia, where it's like, movie good, like, Yorgos is great. I love Yorgos. Begonia is one of his worst movies. Emma Stone is great. This is not one of her most like crazy performances.
00:48:56
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No. um And she's she's great in it. She's always great in everything. Yeah. but So it's not a knock on her. It's just like I thought there were a lot of really strong ah performances this year.
00:49:07
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What about ah Kate Hudson? I have not seen Song Song Blue yet. Dude, you need to watch Song Song Blue. it is I know. Maybe I'll watch it tonight. It's not what you expect is going to happen. It really throws you in for a loop. Also, my my viewing experience of Song Song Blue is kind of ridiculous because I went to the AMC to watch it because I had like a little bit of time and then One of my friends like called me like seven times in a row and had to see what was going on and then I left one hour in and then I watched it another time where I walked in one hour late and just picked up at the exact moment. So I finished it in two parts and the the split moment, it's when the movie really takes a crazy turn.
00:49:44
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So i was watching two different films. And I interject real quick because that was the one movie this entire year that my grandma really wanted to see. and I didn't get a chance to take her to see it in the theater. So we watched it at home and she was so locked in There were two moments in that movie where she like gasped like so fucking loudly.
00:50:05
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She was like just so locked into
Best Picture Nominees Analysis
00:50:08
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it. I like I thought it was fine, but like for her, it was like the best movie she's ever seen. Respect to your grandma. She is my girlfriend and I love her with all my heart. Okay, man.
00:50:20
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Sorry. You know who did take your grandmother to see that in theaters? For those who didn't listen to our 80 other episodes in between this, Dusty's grandma and I, it's a long-running bit. But that movie is, it's like crack for early people. long-running bit?
00:50:35
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It's a bit too. Okay, sorry. Your relationship that was love. Okay, apologies. Dusty, stop trying to bring your grandma into this. um But that movie is like crack for old people. i like Every time I went in, the two times that I saw it... You saw it twice? Oh, oh, oh, never mind. The pause moment that I took this movie in. Pretty crazy. But yeah, Dusty, you know what I mean with the jarring tone shift that happens in the middle? Yeah, yeah.
00:51:02
Speaker
yeah really threw me in for a loop okay well now i'm intrigued so stay tuned there's a i have a drake lyric for this one too that i'll text you after you watch it okay amazing is it i know when that song sang blue there's a second part that spoils that spoils the next but it is it begins with i know that song sang blue i feel like it has to rhyme with hue e You'll see. This all started, by the way, because of your I know when that ping pong, when that pong ball ping.
00:51:35
Speaker
That like altered my brain chemistry. I know when the pong ball ping. Yeah. um Okay. Performance by an actor in a supporting role. These categories are stacked, let me say. you Del Toro, One Battle After Another, his performance as A Few Small Beers.
00:51:52
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Cool. Jacob Elordi, Frankenstein. Delroy Lindo, Sinners. Sean Penn, One Battle After Another, and Stellan Skarsgård, Sentimental Value. Delroy, Wars. Yeah. i'm Delroy was a nice surprise. I'm happy that happened. I don't think he's going to win. His nomination, finally,
00:52:10
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good to really um really excited me yesterday. That was the coolest moment of the day. ah Did you see that video of the guy calling him an emerging artist? That's really funny. That's like he only saw the five ones.
00:52:24
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That's Delroy Lindo. Delroy Lindo. mean, he's emerged. Who do you think is going to take this? I kind of think Stalin is leading at the moment.
00:52:35
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I think Stalin probably will take it. One of the Globes, one SAG. yeah It could be one of the one battle boys, but I think they're going to split the votes. I think they'll split it. um The Paul Moscow...
00:52:47
Speaker
i want I think Elordi would be a really cool win. I mean, i don't think it'll go to him. Yeah. i'm I'm okay with it. i He's 28. He's going to have a his moment later. He's just cool because he really was fabulous in that movie. like They needed a big guy to play a crazy monster, and he's a big guy, and he played a crazy monster. Hey, he was not a monster. He was a kind-hearted soul. Clearly, you didn't watch Frankenstein.
00:53:10
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Oh, I watched Frankenstein. And two and a half hours in, they go, you were the monster all along. and I said, okay, let's back up. Yeah. We're going to get to this. I enjoyed Frankenstein. We're getting a little on the nose, boys. enjoyed Frankenstein, but it like it's like a fanfic movie, I think. Yeah. There are a lot of movies this year that are fanfic movies. um This is one, which I enjoyed. had a great time and I thought it was fun, but...
00:53:34
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Don't hit me with a hammer. um The Paul Maskell snub. I mean, i said slub. That was crazy. um The Paul Maskell snub, I don't care that much about it. I think he was the worst part of Hamnet. I know I'm a Hamboy and I'm deeply in that movie's bag. but It didn't even enter my consciousness as a nominee in our next category would say.
00:53:53
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Duff. Okay. That clean ass transition. Performance by an actor in a leading role. Very good. Timothee Chalamet, Marty Supreme. Very good. Leonardo DiCaprio, One Battle After Another.
00:54:05
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Ethan Hawke, Blue Moon. Very good. Sinners, Wagner Mora, The Secret Agent. This is the most, this is such a good lineup. If any of these people won, I'd say hell yeah. Yeah, I mean, it's it's perfection. I think deservedly Timothy should win it, but I kind of want Ethan Hawke to win it for two reasons. One, I would be really fucking sick. And two, i as much as I want Timothy to win, I feel like if he doesn't win, it's going to send him on a Bradley Cooper type spiral where he's going to get so hungry and keep doing insane things. And I think that if he didn't win the Bob, if he had won the Bob Dylan thing, the Marty campaign would not have been as intense. So I think we need to keep him carrot and stick type situation for a little bit.
00:54:43
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i'm I fear for his, I fear that He doesn't have the physical strength to handle that. i I think that he doesn't actually care about the award. I think he's doing it for the fucking... He's doing a performance.
00:54:54
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Just for the hell of it. um I think an Ethan Hawke win would be huge for the 5'3 community. Oh my god. As a 5'7", 5'8", man, I'm all for that.
00:55:05
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um Leo could win. Michael B. Jordan would be sick. He played two people. Wagner Mora... great the award for most acting the award for most characters played in a film michael b jordan you're taking it one of our all awards should be best twin performance yes dylan o'brien versus michael b jordan i i'm giving it to dylan because holy shit those two were completely he's so good at playing gay says i was shocked gay dylan o'brien was who was a freaking vibe man also can we can we talk about that movie
00:55:42
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twinless yeah yeah insane crazy movie no um no twin no family 16 in the middle of miami it's so crazy just the worst character ever invented in all of movies yeah wild um and here we are we've arrived best picture bp bp after we do our best picture we should uh stop for a commercial break Okay. We should about our sponsors.
00:56:12
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Okay. The nominees are Begonia, F1, Frankenstein, Hamnet, Marty Supreme, One Battle After Another, The Secret Agent, Sentimental Value, Sinners, and Tra...
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Chugga chugga choo choo. Chugga chugga choo choo. All aboard the train.
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You wouldn't dream a train. Okay. um Let's pause for commercials and then we can do our personal rankings after that. And I know when the choo choo dream.
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00:57:14
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You're not going to want to leave the house. You're going to get snowed in I don't believe you. You're getting two feet of snow, so I'll walk through it. Wait, you we were we were both in Pittsburgh when that when the polar vortex happened.
00:57:27
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I don't even remember. it was a regular Tuesday for my Pennsylvania ass. That was a whole thing, dude. My mom sent me like a ski mask and she's like, don't go outside unless you wear this ski mask. She was like so scared. She was like the polar vortex is going to suck you in and you're going to be consumed by it. um Yeah, I live in sunny California where the weather is always a tight 65 70 and life is great. So...
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When either of you come to California, you will be bequeathed with the Lingnams. All right, let's get back to it. And we're back. Okay, do you want to do our best picture rankings?
00:58:46
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Yeah, so I think you should do, I should do my 10, you do your 10, or you do, you go first. Or do you want to do 10, then not, like we say our 10, we say our nine. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, I will say. response Even though everybody knows what my one is by now, probably, if you've been listening.
00:59:01
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I will say, here's where, here's a little crazy thing that happened to me is that I was 100% sure that I had seen all the Best Picture nominees because I thought that Jafar Panahi's, it was just an accident, was going to be in here.
00:59:14
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It's not. So now I have one blind spot called F1. You got to watch out for one. Vroom vroom, bitch. So that I don't have a 10. We will, for the sake of this exercise, we will say F1 at 10 because I have not seen it. So what is your 10 at the moment? Well, my 10 is probably your nine. So this is when it gets fun.
00:59:32
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um I want to preface this by saying that I enjoyed all of the Oscar movies. I think some of these movies I enjoyed more than others. some of these movies had a lot of potential to be something great but it was fumbled by something that just really didn't work for me and that for me is train dreams which that's actually not my nine oh that's not your nine that's crazy okay well i'm gonna give my thoughts on train dreams i think the narration took me super fucking out of it for some reason it was a beautiful movie it was very touching is very sweet but the narration did not get me um i think it was also just like uh
01:00:10
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Have you seen the Josh O'Connor movie Rebuilding? No, I've looked everywhere. i can't get it. It's so good. It's insane. It's also kind of about connection to the environment, but this is just like, it's so tender. Josh O'Connor and that kid have such a great connection. I saw Train Dreams right after Rebuilding, so might have colored that because while I was watching Train Dreams, the only thing I could think was like, I wish I was watching Rebuilding again, which is probably not a good thing. You got Team Rebuilding. Yeah, I did get Team. But a lot of people like it, so I think I'm wrong in this situation. And I've heard a lot of people passionately moved by it, and think that's really special.
01:00:46
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I do want to preface, again, this is like a four-star movie. Every single one of these movies is at least a four-star. I think it just really didn't work for me because I am mad that nobody's watching Rebuilding. um Also, i had really high hopes because this is the duo that brought us Sing Sing, which one of the best movies of all time and will forever be my favorite.
01:01:05
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Did I already say that I'm Still Here is my favorite movie of last year? You did. You can't be lying like that. Sing Sing was my favorite movie of last year. Hold on. Let me pull up the old 2024 ranking. i have it on here.
01:01:16
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yeah That was was one of her one of our more recent episodes, dare I say. Our more recent episode from last year. um ah from no not from last year. From the year before last year.
01:01:30
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Oh. Where the hell is it? oh okay. Oh, Nickel Boys was my favorite movie. Nickel Boys was the number one movie of all time. um Sing Sing is cool. I think it was 2023, wasn't it?
01:01:43
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No, same year as Nickel Boys. Oh, Sing Sing and Nickel Boys were tied for my top movie because Sing Sing was not nominated for Best Picture, but it should have been. It absolutely should was phenomenal. um San Quentin, the California prison, does a film festival now. And I was really excited to go this year, but I was
Personal Reflections on Movie Experiences
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out of town. But they um it's very Sing Sing inspired where the prisoners show their art.
01:02:08
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And I think that is really special. mean, I abolish all prisons, jails, incarceration. Say that. Yeah. Anyways, Sing Sing. Number one. Trade dreams. Number nine.
01:02:19
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My number nine is Frankenstein. Oh, wow. I think Guillermo del Toro is a very, very, very talented director. I think Jacob Lorty gives an incredible performance in this. I think a lot of people are shooting on Oscar Isaac, but I had fun watching him. I thought it looked cool. I liked the like anatomical stuff that was going on. It just did not hit for me. I really felt the runtime.
01:02:43
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Like I said, it gets like very on the nose with the dialogue. um There's no real... kind of interesting angle or take on the story that we've heard so much. And from someone like Guillermo del Toro, that was a bit of a letdown for me.
01:02:57
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um So it's really not a knock on anyone who made the film. I think the film is perfectly fine, but I kind of expected it to be elevated in a way that wasn't. And there are very strong nominees here.
01:03:10
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I'm going to be super real with you. I completely forgot Frankenstein was in the best picture. I'm going to switch that as my number 10. I'm moving Train Dreams up. but Am I allowed to do that? Is that a lot? Is that a lot? Frankenstein is a clear 10. I think Frankenstein is a fun movie. It's a fan fiction movie. That's what it is to me.
01:03:27
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Okay. So then Train Dreams is... Oh, wait. Yeah, Train Dreams is 9. Frankenstein is 10. Okay, Train Dreams is my 8. Whoa, we're still locked in. Also... I do want to say I agree 100% wholeheartedly with everything that you've said about Frankenstein. You have much wisdom. You are so wise. God bless your soul.
01:03:44
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Thank you very much. um dreams I love a meditation on grief. i maybe because I watched this at home and not in a theater. It didn't hit as much for me. Maybe because like, I don't know, there are a million factors that go into the viewing experience of every film. And what we come away with is largely dependent on what was happening at the time of viewing and how we were feeling and what mood we were in. And I was kind of in a mood. But I just think that in this lineup alone, there are Meditations on grief that are more... Just... I don't... do i This is based on a book, I will say.
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and
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my biggest question while I was watching the film was why this story? It just felt like something was missing. And that's not a question that I really ever have watching a film because I think... You don't really need a reason to tell a story. Tell a story, do what you want. But something about it felt um like half baked. And I wasn't sure why I was with these characters. um And like I said, I don't know you when you're supposed to like one of my favorite films, as I've said, is the worst person in the world that uses voiceover as a very cool tool. of ah telling the story and walking us through the chronology of Julie's life. In this film, it's telling you Joel Edgerton feels sad. Joel Edgerton feels like he wants to chop down a tree now. And that's all good and fine. But if your goal is to make me feel close to this man and really feel his grief and put myself in the story, you can't have a middleman there. You have to show more than you tell. And it just didn't do that.
01:05:14
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Yeah, I 110% agree with you. that That's how I feel. I think Some meditations of grief I connect with a lot more than others. This is not my way of meditating on grief. I am really happy that it exists for people who are deeply affected by it.
01:05:29
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um egg it's real It's a good movie. i I'm glad I watched it. I wish I was more affected by it, but it's not the kind of thing that affects me, I think. Yeah. I think it's a very stunning film. It's very peaceful, very meditative, and then you get interrupted by a narrator with a really jarring voice every once in a while, which, sorry, Chief, didn't work on me.
01:05:51
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Yeah, so not to, like, rehash old drama, but to everyone online who was acting like I said that Barry Lyndon was bad, grow up. i forgot I forgot that you got jumped by the internet for Train Dreams.
01:06:02
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Yeah. All for what? All for fucking what? You were like public enemy number one. They were like, dude, Train Dreams, we're gonna kill you for hating Train Dreams. Yeah, and now that one account is like going off about one battle after another um and getting absolutely dunked on.
01:06:18
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Dude, i don't don't get me started on how people are reacting to things that gain recognition on Twitter. um Yeah, I just i want to continue reiterating Train Dreams is a good, solid movie. I wish that I was impacted more by it. Yeah. Yeah, and maybe that's a me problem. There are a lot of films that are like objectively beautiful and nice and good that I have not connected with. I will not say the names of them here because I don't want to get jumped.
01:06:40
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they' They're going to get you, all the 10 listeners. you want me to say it and then we beat it? Yeah, say it, say it. I'm thinking of a**. Yeah, I'm going to jump you for that one. Yeah. Okay. Just to reiterate, this is a subjective list. This is none this is like the point of this. We don't talk about movies like good or bad. This is all what affected us and where we connected with most. And unfortunately, i connected with Frankenstein at least because it is a fanfic film. And then I didn't connect with Train Dreams because I cannot stress enough that I made this list while I was sitting on the toilet peeing.
01:07:15
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This list is being made as we speak. I just made an update to my list as you were talking. Sick. Okay. My number number seven and number eight are like kind of a tie, kind of not really. That's how I feel.
01:07:28
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It's Begonia and F1 for me. Or F1 and then Begonia. We are really in lockstep here. Begonia being the better one.
01:07:37
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Mine are begonia and hamnet. We're not in lockstep. Please never i say that again. i while you were taught While you were speaking, I had hamnet at seven. Well, okay.
01:07:49
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F1, 10 for the sake of the exercise. Bring us high nine, train dreams eight. I had hamnet seven and begonia six, but I just switched them. Okay. I'll do a little f one we talked about. It's just, it's a good, it's a fun movie. It's a dad movie. Very exciting. Boom, boom, spectacle.
01:08:07
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Love of Boom Boom Spectacle. Joseph Kosinski is really good at that. I don't know. It's like, if you don't feel like you have been hanging out with your dad as much, put this movie on and watch it with him, and he'll probably be happy.
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Yeah. We need movies like that to keep the world going. I didn't come out of it with like anything, but I came out with... Yeah, that was fun as fuck. Begonia. A Lesser Yorgos is better than most non-Yorgoses, but it's still Lesser Yorgos.
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That's exactly how I feel. It's like, I think that he's done the...
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the um i i like falling asleep talking he we're almost there we're almost there he has hammered home the points and themes of this movie in more interesting ways in his like bleaker kind of weirder films and i feel like he's trying to revert back to a weirder thing with um what was the one he did um um um um um what's the other one that he made He made a lot of them.
01:09:03
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Which one? Describe. Poor Things? In three. Kinds of Kindness. Kinds of kind Kindness. with Kinds of Kindness. And Begonia, I feel like he's trying to revert back to that more odd place. I feel like Poor Things was more of a like digestible version. Mm-hmm.
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of his style, if that makes any sense. It's also a weird movie, but like, i I don't know. It didn't work for me as much as a lot of his other stuff has. I think poor things might be less digestible than begonia. Begonia might be pretty easy to take in to a stranger. Yeah. the The other thing, I know I did this with Trinidad. But is begonia not just Frankenstein?
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Begonia is better Frankenstein. More thoughtful Frankenstein. I mean, not Begonia. Poor things. yeah poor things oh yeah i My brain like shut off. It was actually scary what just happened me. You're doing great. It's ok okay. anyway um I know I did this with Train Dures. I'm going to do it with Begonia. I watch No Other Choice in Begonia basically back to back and No Other Choice is the version of this movie that I connected with a lot more and they're very similar.
01:10:11
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Yeah. In in theme. um i agree. The other thing for us, phenomenal. Very funny. I love Looney Tunes. Yeah. I love Looney Tunes and I hate the boss. The scene of him putting the meat in the guy's mouth and then ah plastic wrapping it made me so physically ill. Oh my God. It's very rare. Like I love gross stuff in a movie.
01:10:32
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I actually like almost could not look at what was happening. It was so upsetting to me. Yeah. um So shout out to Parkton Wook for that little ah piece of cinema.
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um Okay. My number six is Hamnet. Speak your falsitudes on Hamnet. I like Hamnet. Like you said, none of these are like, I like Hamnet. I think Jessie Buckley, like I walked away from that so floored by her performance. I think she's like maybe our greatest living actress. It is crazy what she does.
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Child performances are great. What honestly knocked this down to six for me ah is when Paul Meskel is standing there and he starts doing to be or not to be like, it so took me out of the movie in a way that I was not able to bounce back from.
01:11:17
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That's super fair. um Should i say my thoughts on him or wait until? um don't wait until you Wait until you get there. Until the tear. No, but I think it's beautiful. I love, I mean, so many of the nature shots are beautiful. Like I think Chloe Zhao is a fantastic director. I just like the ah the top five, ah it's yeah It's a hard year. Like the top five year, you could really put in any order and I'd be happy with it. Yeah, there is no Wicked or Bob Dylan movie this year where I'm like, or Emilia Perez. There is a Wicked, but it's not on this list.
01:11:47
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Everyone on Twitter yesterday was like, this is terrible. The Academy, like, yeah, obviously there are snubs and it was just an accident. It huge snub. But lest we forget, last year we had a Best Picture lineup with Wicked, the Bob Dylan movie, and Emilia Perez.
01:11:59
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Number five. do Wait, what's your number six? F1? F1. No, my number six was... We have we haven't gotten to yet. It's Secret Agent.
01:12:10
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Wait. Okay. Ten. Frankenstein. Seven. Begonia. Nine. Train Dreams. Eight. F1. Seven. Begonia. Six. Secret Agent. Okay, talk. um Good. Love a good Hangout movie.
01:12:24
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Wait, something so special is happening right now and you have no idea. Okay, go. What's happening? I can't spoil the rest of my list. Okay, okay. I love hanging out with Wagner Mora. We were balling. We were we were cooking it up. He's super cool. I loved all the side characters. I love the side plot lines. um Kind of long, but In a good way, I guess. um I will say my viewing experience for this was tarnished because I watched this at a screen on a screen or at home. So so this is possibly one of the reasons that I might not have it as high up. But it was a cool world to be immersed into. I love the leg.
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um The leg was sick. I love the two-headed cat. Yeah, I mean, honestly, just like a it's really special to be like in... 1970s Brazil and it reminds me a lot of the stories that my grandparents would talk about Cairo. um I think it's just like always really cool to see your world reflected in somebody else's world in a very cool thread. um This is completely tangential, but there's a book called Midlock Alley that is an Egyptian novel that is really special. It's one of the first books of the offer that I read, and he's one of my favorites, but they made a movie about him, but it's a Spanish film that takes place in Mexico starring Salma Hayek, and it doesn't change the plot at all, but it just kind of takes the setting.
01:13:45
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I could feel like The Secret Agent was something that happened in the Cairo of the stories that like my parents told me about that my grandparents would tell me. It's so cool how like interconnected the world is and how the human experience is historically shaped together.
01:14:00
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Beautiful. Yeah. Um, I love that. And I'm excited to talk more about secret agent. Um, all right. Okay. Your number six or five.
01:14:14
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I guess we're both at number five. Yeah. We're at number five. My number five is sinners. Ooh. Yeah. I love Sinners, I will say. And I'm kind of very back and forth. I know what my top three are, but I'm very back and forth between four and five. So this is the next one that I say.
01:14:32
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are your four and five one battle after another in Sinners? Because mine are one battle after another in Sinners. Okay, yes. I have one battle and I have Sinners ahead right now. I actually think they're, like, I kind of want to switch it right now. They are so on par to me.
01:14:50
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you want to just talk about them together? My thread line on both is not really together. I think they both do very different things. Yeah, no, no, no. I mean, just chat about each one right now. Yeah, yeah.
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Okay, Sinners, i like I said before, Ryan Coogler are writing this incredibly original script that talks about the ways the black art is stolen by white people and gets at just... There's so much that is so beautifully, not only visually shown, but there's so much in the script that is that makes it so much more than a popcorn movie. um And I think it's awesome that it's like a horror.
01:15:36
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I wouldn't call it straight horror. I think it's such a mix of genres, but the way that horror is incorporated into it and the fact that it is so strong in this race is very special to me. um And I just fucking I love Ryan Coogler. Like I want everyone in this to just get so much recognition and love for what they created.
01:15:53
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I agree. um I think very powerful movie, but also just like can't understand how fun it is. It's such a good time. of It's so much fun to see. So fun. see this in a theater is just such a, it's such a special experience. And Miles Caton singing in the barn. They did live vocals on that. Like I was so blown away by that.
01:16:12
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and Yeah. Pretty awesome. I just like a really fun movie. It's just a fucking awesome movie. Yeah, every time I watch it, it also gets better. I've seen it twice, and the second time it's been like really good. I think the third time I watch it will be even better.
01:16:25
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And I usually don't watch it And is where I think that something functions as... just like a fucking awesome fun watch and something more. It's not an, I don't, I mean, I, again, I haven't seen F1, but it feels very much like a fun to watch race cars, but like, this is fun to watch. And there is just like so much to sink your, to sink your teeth into. Yeah.
01:16:46
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Not being, not trying to be clever. Yeah. Yeah. I chose to ignore that. Um, but yeah, it's fucking awesome. It's a vampire. Um, it it does um That's why I have it above One Battle.
01:17:01
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h Because... I think I do too. Wow. You've changed your mind right away again. Fuck. She's a little bit dissuaded.
01:17:13
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um I mean, One Battle is a perfectly crafted movie. um The movie I like to think about One Battle with is Killers of the Flower Moon. Partially because they're both like kind of grounded by a Leo...
01:17:28
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With a relationship with a woman of color. ah They're both very captivating and very easy to watch. Despite their runtime, you don't feel the runtime at all. I think One Battle is actually the king of like being a three-hour movie that feels like it's 30 minutes. Totally great.
01:17:49
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Such an amazing introduction. um I think its politics are very limited. And originally I watched and like, oh the politics are really good. And then I thought about it for longer than 20 minutes. And I think it has very limited politics. I think that's partially in PTA being a well-meaning 40-year-old white man, um which, like, it's not, I'm not looking to one battle to, like, understand the world until I get things, but it is kind of an indictment of how he thinks. I know there's a lot of talk about, like, PTA being potentially a Zionist and him associating with Zionists. And,
01:18:24
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That, to me, goes hand-in-hand with how I think about this movie. It's like, he means well, but his scope is limited because of kind of who he is, and i it feels weird saying this without fleshing
Political Scope and Representation in Film
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it out. I'm kind of rattling this off the dome right now. I have not, so pardon me for this, but...
01:18:42
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Um, like when you think about, when you think about the complaints that one battle has, a lot of them are centered around how women of color are treated in this movie and their agency and how they're portrayed. And I think there are so many pieces that I've read where fundamentally just like really, really thoughtful,
01:18:59
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and super valid takeaways that make me think, yeah, maybe PTA's scope of writing these characters is limited by who he is. When you think about Killers of the Flower Moon, it was very much praised for its portrayal of Indigenous women because of how involved Indigenous people were in that storyline and the creation of those narratives and making sure that their culture was kind of put in. I think one battle at Saving Grace is that, like,
01:19:25
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I'm not looking at it as a way to see this is how the world goes, but I'm more so thinking about it in like, this is how a well-meaning liberal guy sees the world who maybe doesn't understand things as much just because of the nature of his identity and what he's been exposed to, but he still means well. However, meaning well is never going to get us where we need to go. i think we need a lot more Beautiful.
01:19:53
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if the loudest voices are always going to be the people who meanwhile who don't understand the world because of the scope of their identity we're going to let the patterns of oppression and genocide and colonialism continue which is something that is very very prominent through killers of the flower moon sorry to got on a soapbox but i hope that made sense beautiful
01:20:12
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Um, I also, there have been so many think pieces on this film from all angles. o And I don't think it has perfect politics, but I also do think if you kind of evaluated it is partially PTA poking fun at himself as sort of a Bob like character.
01:20:32
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um Because you look at the film and whose lives are actually on the line during revolution and who is actually making these sacrifices and putting themselves in these situations and getting themselves through it. And it's the black women, um which, again, is not to say that it's like a perfect depiction of black women. I certainly am not the arbiter of that in any way, shape or form. But like, I do think.
01:20:55
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that there are redeeming qualities about the politics. But yeah, it's I don't think it's meant to be a revolutionary text. I do just think it's supposed to be a cool movie. Yeah. I think that's the place from which PTA makes a lot of films.
01:21:09
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i agree. No gripes with PTA. And I think it might not have been meant to do that, but I think it's been, like, biblicized as a revolutionary text for many, which is definitely coloring how I see it. um But also, like, at the end of the day, it's...
01:21:24
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I keep comparing it to Killers of the Flower Moon, which is maybe the best movie of the 2020s, partially because it's like grounded in a sleazebag Leo performance, and because it like centers around the actions of a woman of color and how that goes. and I think the portrayal of woman of color in Killers of the Flower Moon is much more nuanced and less one-dimensional and a lot more beautifully written, which...
01:21:48
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Granted, I feel like I'm giving a lot of praise to Killers of the Flower Moon because it fucking rules. But yeah, i don't know. It's a lot to think about. Very, very much much to consider. It's a great movie and it goes by very quickly. And the scene where he's with Latino Heat and they're jumping from roof to roof is in my mind forever.
01:22:08
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Yeah. um And any film that puts Tiana Taylor on my screen is... goaded it is speaking of tiana taylor have you seen the rip on netflix no not yet i'm so excited okay when you do let me know we'll talk um and chase infinity is so good go to speak to her in person and i looked into her eyes and i was like well you really are like the most beautiful woman on earth this is crazy you dis armed what did you tell her i don't even remember
01:22:40
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Just fun. Yeah. I think I was like, you're so beautiful. You should have touched her. You should have asked her if you could touch her face and just poked her and walked away. She's so awesome. She talked. I asked her because it was kind of like her big her first like big award season. And I was like, is there anyone who you're like clinging to at these things and she said that she got to meet um miles katon and he was really sweet and that made me happy um that's nice because they're both i mean two of my favorite performances of the year they're great um okay um okay what's your number three o number three so we've gotten past the two heavy hitters now it's marty time um is marty springer number three no oh okay what's your number three sentimental value okay my son well is my number two
01:23:28
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Let me talk about Marty and then we can both get into Setti. Okay. Yeah. Um, Marty Supreme, a ton of fun, very electric, very just dazzling. At the end of the day though, it is a lesser uncut gems, which is a perfect movie, but a lesser uncut gems is also phenomenal. Um,
01:23:46
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I really
Film Endings and Character Motivations
01:23:47
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liked it. was really entertained. And I feel like I keep saying less uncut gems, but that's not to say like they're the same movie. I think they're very different and it's still like just such a phenomenal viewing experience. Really funny, or really great stuff. Um, have I ever told you about my friend who is kind of like Marty s Supreme?
01:24:01
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No. Oh God. Okay. Um, I want to caveat by saying he's not like exactly like Marty Supreme and he has a good person. to art He's very sweet and that's what makes him different. He's like a loyal person who doesn't throw people away. Um,
01:24:13
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But this is a guy new in high school. He's always been kind of like a schemer, a hustler of sorts. When he lived in New York, he like paid a guy to pretend to mug him on a date so that he could fight him off and look like he was brave in front of the woman. The guy took his money and walked away, which i think is really funny. And I think it colors a lot of...
01:24:34
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ah he's just like you he's always He's always getting up to some like silly scheme. um he He works like multiple jobs at once. um He's very kind to the people in his life. He's very compassionate, but he's always getting into some sort of hustle. And when I was watching Marty Supreme, I thought about him and I smiled. um I think my interpretation of the ending of Marty Supreme the first time I watched it was wrong.
01:24:57
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um I've listened a lot of podcasts. I know that. the The ending is supposed to be more like he has finally found... Sorry to completely spoil it. I need this for anybody who hasn't seen it yet. Also, if you haven't seen Marty's Supreme, what are you doing? That's like the movie of the year. Christmas Day.
01:25:11
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Marty's Supreme, Christmas Day. That's the Christmas movie. But the ending, like he looks into the baby and he starts crying and he's moved because of love or whatever. When I first saw it, was like, he's crying because he realized that he's never going to get to the point where he wants to go. And now he's stuck in a life as a dad. And he's... trapped and my ending was a lot more like my interpretation was a lot more cynical which i oscillate between the two but i know that safi wrote it from a place of like yeah um finding out that he did write it from a place of being a dad and almost like kind of this like saccharine place of oh my god i'm meeting my child yeah um
01:25:48
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I think it's beautiful, but like I, my original interpretation of it was that he starts crying because he sees his baby and that's a profound moment, but then it slowly, at least what I thought Timmy's performance was conveying was like, it slowly turns into this much heavier, more complicated, more complicated,
01:26:05
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ah crying that is not only why I'm a dad, but like, holy fuck. Like this My wife is about to change. can't keep doing everything. Everything that I was working yeah everything that I was doing is now, it just doesn't matter.
01:26:17
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it was all for what. I'm not going to be able to go back to that. Like that is not my focus anymore. So I did sort of feel like it was a mix of the two. And but when I listened to Josh talk, it doesn't seem as cynical as I'm making it, but I do kind of like the cynical read on it a little more.
01:26:33
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Yeah, my cynical like is just he saw the baby and he's like, fuck, I'm screwed. And my takeaway of that character is he uses everybody in his life and he doesn't really actually care for anyone. I don't think he has the capacity to be a good dad. I think he's going to be deadbeat and continue resenting his child for like taking away those opportunities.
01:26:51
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I don't know what interview it was, but did you hear that Kevin O'Leary was telling Josh that he hates the ending and he thinks that um Rachel should have died? That's really fucking funny. That is so fucked That's really insane. That's so crazy. Speaking of Rachel, Odessa, big year.
01:27:06
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She's great. Big year. I was wondering if she would maybe get an Oscar nom. who Oh, well, she's going to be fine. She has a good career. Yeah. I like her. rubber and I remember when... um So i I knew that she was going to be in Marty Supreme, and I knew that she was going to be on the Rachel Sennett show, but I was watching that like stupid fucking PS5 movie like based on that video game, Until Dawn, with one of my friends. And I kept telling them, i was like, watch this a girl. She's going be very famous one day. And then, sure enough, four months later, they were just like, holy shit, how'd you know? And I was like, I'm a prophet. Yeah. Yeah, you can just feel it. She was in the Hellraiser reboot with Drew Starkey. and
01:27:42
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e That's your guy. That's your buddy. I think he's great. I think he's such a good actor. i agree. Great actor. Okay, what's your number?
01:27:54
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what Wait, was that three? it's three. and my number two My number two is your number three. Okay, sentimental value and Marty. i Again, I almost think I could swap these. Like, I really am not married to this list. So everything I'm saying, take with a grain of salt because it will change. At the end of this episode, we're going to write down the 10 and we're going mark it and you're not allowed to change it ever again.
01:28:15
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Okay. um I have sentimental value. Very special film to me. I liked it so much more the second time I saw it. um i think Inga Ibsdodder Lilius is... That's just, like, the performance. It's just, like, the performance. It is so good. She is so talented.
01:28:31
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the film I love any film that explores like sisterhood, um relationships between women, any sort of relationship between ah children and parents. like just Every direction that these relationships go is compelling to me. I think Elle Fanning is great. I love all of it. um i just I think why it's three is because Joachim Trier...
01:28:53
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knocked it out of the park with the worst person in the world. And I love this film, but in a very different way than I love that film. And I think maybe as I have more time to sit with this one and as I like watch it more times throughout my life and my relationship to it evolves and it starts to mean something different to me each time I watch it. Like that I think will catapult it to higher on my list of like all time movies, not just 2025 best picture movies, but um i'm I'm comfortable with it being three right now.
01:29:22
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um i think it's I think it's perfect. It's beautiful. I couldn't have said better. It's a really good movie. Very touching. um I agree with you, and that and Worst Person operate in very different lanes. I think they both affected me very differently, which I admire, because it's like, I've got a lot of movies this year that are like, oh, the director's doing their director thing, whereas Walking Trier just like a master of manipulating my emotions, where I'm like, fuck, dude, you just hit me in different parts. I had no expectation going in, and it Caught me completely off guard. Just like I did with Worst Person in the World, but completely different feelings. um However, both perfect movies, and this is a perfect movie, and everyone in this movie deserves to be happy in their life. I mean, everyone deserves to be happy, but these people deserve it a lot.
01:30:11
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Yeah. And Renata Reins is so good in it. The moment where she is like freaking out and she asks Anders Danielson. Love whenever he shows up in a Norwegian movie. When they're together in a Joachim Trier movie, like I'm locked in. But when she asks him to um slap her and he's like what? What are you talking about? Like that got such a laugh.
01:30:31
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The piano teacher bit, obviously, like that's maybe the hardest I laughed in a film this year, but the moment when she asks him to hit her is also very funny. um And the moment when Stellan tells Elle Fanning that the um the the stool is what his mother used to hang herself, and then we find out in a minute that it's just from Ikea.
01:30:49
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That was so good. It's such a funny movie. His character is so beautifully written. Yeah, that was I LOL many times at this film. And I think that's what he does so well is he threads the real like because I hate when a movie is melodramatic to the point where there's no humor because that's not what life is like when things are really sad and hard. That's honestly where I find the funniest things happen.
01:31:15
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ah And I think Joachim Trier is so good at depicting that. He writes people who are funny despite the hardships. Despite the pain. And that's how real people are. So shout out. I love this movie. I think it could it could be number one. It could be number two. It could be number three.
01:31:32
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This one and my number one switch very consistently. But I think my connection to my number one is a lot more personal. um Anyways, your number two. My number two is Marty. Okay. Okay.
01:31:43
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um i mean, what can I say? i I think it's propulsive. I think it's fun. i love to watch a movie about a crazy guy. i think anything that I can just kind of like... I like turning myself over to a movie completely and just going for the ride. And when that bathtub fell through the ceiling, I was like floored and I felt so bad for the dog. And I like i knew that think you like he was going shot in the face when he looked in the window. like All of it was just...
01:32:09
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fun. i just had a good time watching it. It's a cool sports movie. um All of the people in it are cool and turning in great performances and they look very individual and it's i just had a great time. I think just having fun at the movies was so back for me with this.
01:32:29
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Yeah. It's it's fun. It's good time. I saw it twice and I made my friends watch it with me and it was a delight and a half. Yeah, and Gwyneth Paltrow is great.
01:32:40
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The scene that... that the scene Oh, I wanted to talk about the honey scene. Marty very sort of flippantly, like as a party trick, prompts his friend who was a camp survivor to talk about this story of a man who put... Who was in the... In um Auschwitz.
01:32:57
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Was it Auschwitz? It was one of the camps. One of the camps, yeah. um And he was a ping pong player. So they kind of like gave him a better deal because they thought it was cool that he was a ping pong player and they sent him out into the fields to...
01:33:10
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dismantle these bombs and he ended up finding honey and he would slather his body in honey and he would feed the other prisoners. And I think it's such a beautiful story. And that moment, people saying that they laughed at that moment made me like really um concerned.
01:33:25
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It's a crazy story. I believe it's a true story and it speaks very much to Marty's selfishness and how he's not really giving up anything for people. And he's able to just invoke this without the real like,
01:33:37
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without really kind of sitting with the weight of it. But also it's a story about like a post-war Jewish kid trying to find his
Cultural and Historical Film Complexities
01:33:44
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way in the world. And and there's there's just a lot going on. And I, I think it's a very, I don't know. I think the story, I don't even know what I'm saying anymore.
01:33:56
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It's a, I, yeah, it's a, it is a very beautiful moment. It's really concerning are taking But I really, I really liked the honey scene. I thought it was, It really stopped me in my tracks when I watched it. I've thought about it a lot. um So beautiful. Beautiful um little thing that Josh Safdie added in there. And I like the idea of, you know, lot of people were writing this off as like an annoying white kid, but you have to, you do have to think of it in the context of post-war Jewish kid in New York in the tenements, like trying to make a life for himself, which is fascinating. And also going to Japan again, post-war Japan, like a lot going on here.
01:34:33
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yeah think about it um agreed i think that maybe marty isn't my favorite of the year but marty supreme is my favorite character of the year he's just like such a crazily written magnetic nuanced character that i'm just like holy fuck this guy's crazy i saw a tweet though sorry oh i was just i was gonna say my favorite character of the year but you go Oh, saw a tweet that said, i wish Safdie showed the Japanese side of the story and Marty Sabrina said, thought that was fucking hilarious.
01:35:06
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Speaking of discourse. But no, I was moved watching the the final match in Japan, watching the Japanese spectators watch the, sorry, it's getting really loud in my apartment.
01:35:19
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Watch the game. What? I said party. Party. um but Watching the Japanese spectators watch the match and root for Japan and seeing on their faces that there were higher stakes. At this point in in time, Japan winning this, was it was weightier than just like a random ping pong game. And seeing that on their faces, I thought was done really well. like There were...
01:35:44
Speaker
stakes for everyone in this and it's ping pong but it's heavier than that and i yeah i was compelled by this this movie compelled me this movie is very compelling it's very beautiful very thoughtful um yeah okay no no it's perfect movie um oh do you want to know my favorite character of the year yes yes please please It's trade dreams from free dreams. Of course. How could I forget?
01:36:11
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Okay. Your number one. My number one um We have kind of very beautifully aligned lists because your number six is my number one and my number one is your number six. And then we like flip flop around where the rest of our list is basically the same.
01:36:26
Speaker
Yeah. I love that we're on lockstep even we disagree on fundamental things. um Yeah. Should I go first or you go first? You can go first. Okay. Save the Actually, wait. I feel like you have a much more beautiful connection to yours. i I kind of want to end on yours. All connections are beautiful. Also, we're not going to end on mine. We're going end on our snubs and alternate awards.
01:36:47
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Okay. um I'll go very quickly. We're also going to have ah another commercial break, so come up with another sponsor. Hell yeah. um My number one is The Secret Agent. I think Wagner Mora gives an incredible performance. I think...
01:37:00
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The images of 70s Brazil are stunning. It looks great. I didn't feel the runtime. And as you said, the experience of watching a movie can color how you feel about it. And I did watch this on a screener at home at my parents' house during Christmas. And at the very end of the movie where things really start to come together and the point is being hammered home, they got really loud and they decided to start like talking and doing dishes. But despite all of it,
01:37:24
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I cried at the end of this. I was very moved. um I love, especially at this point in history, I like anything that um interrogates how we tell stories and how they're passed on and how we come to know what happened in the past and how we learn about ourselves and the world around us through retellings of things and through documentation. And I thought it was done very well. So that the way that this all came together really did it for me. This is the only movie on this list that I gave five stars to.
01:37:55
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That's beautiful. Really loved it. I thought it was done beautifully. love to give a lot of five stars. It was a fun watch. like It's a guy running and there's a lot of... It's it's propulsive as well. I felt um it it kind of hit on everything I want from the movie. movie um Yeah, what were you saying?
01:38:16
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No, I was saying I give a lot of movies five stars. Up until Sinners, One Battle, Marty... the um sentimental value and hamlet those were all fives to me at some point yeah martian sentimental were sort of fives in my heart gave four and a half i don't know why star ratings are stupid and i don't know ratings are so dumb dude i love i love it's kind of a gut feeling for me i love letterbox but i hate how it makes us think of things in qualified metrics i just want to have a good time yeah um okay you want to talk number one Okay, I'm going to preface this by, i have no idea what fucking Hamnet did to some people on Twitter. Like, there are those tweets where it's like, Hamnet is not only a bad movie, it is the worst movie of all time. Hamnet killed my grandma. It's artistically irresponsible. Hamnet is artistically, Hamnet made me want to kill, like, I'm sorry, what what did Hamnet fucking do to
Social Media Reactions and Personal Impact
01:39:13
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you? Is Chloe Zhao, like, did she...
01:39:15
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Kill Your Dog. what's It's the same... i know you're not on the Celine Song hype train like I am, but it's the same way where people are just like, I hate this person and they make me so angry. Hamnet's so bad. That's all I fucking hear. like Everybody's whining about Hamnet. um I think there's a... We have, as a society, an effect where when something gets a moderate amount of praise and love, people decide they have to lead the forefront of being the number one hater of this thing and tear it down as hard as possible. Like, I...
01:39:45
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I fundamentally get people not liking Hamnet. I can see that some people think it's boring. I can see that some people think it's manipulative. Those are all valid takes. But to say it's like the worst movie of all time and treat it the way it's being treated is ridiculous. um But my favorite thing is when I meet one of those people and we're like talking and they're like, I think Hamnet was so dumb. And they're like, why do you like it so much? And then I go, I'm like, well, so this year, i my cat of 15 years, 10 to 15 years, somewhere in that range, um actually, I don't know how old he was when we found because we found him as a stray. So I think he was three, but we had him for 11 years, but he passed away this year.
01:40:24
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um Obviously, a very, very heavy time. My grandfather also passed away that summer. This was a year of what one could call a lot of death, personally.
01:40:36
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um and i'm i mean I've always been someone who says that everything is okay and I don't like to spend time being sad. I like to smile, like to make my friends happy. I don't like to take the time to actually be sad because there's always something to do. i can be productive. Why waste time being miserable? All of that. I hate vulnerability. I think the only time that i actually feel comfortable being vulnerable and being in touch with emotion is when I'm watching a movie.
01:41:02
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This is a weirdly honest, I like never said this stuff out loud. I always write this down and I've written a more fleshed out Hamnet review and a more fleshed out eulogy on my cat's death. But I think those two deaths for me were very much moments in my life where I was like, oh, loss is bad, but it'll be okay. Now I just need to keep everything together so I can keep moving because there's always something sad happening.
01:41:26
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with Hamna, this was I saw it two months after my cat died, and i had just kind of boiled it down. I didn't really let myself process or grieve it. When I was watching Hamnet, it just took me out. It basically made me sit through, and it made me really fucking process the death of my cat. It made me sit with grief. It made me meditate on it, and it like taught me how to actually take it in. um i have not felt that way there It's like there are very few moments where something just... forces me to actually engage with my emotions in a healthy way. I was just bottling things up, suppressing it, letting it take out. It got to the point where I was having dreams where like this guy would make me do therapy about my cat in my dreams because I wasn't willing to actually ever talk about it. But I did see him and that unlocked something in my brain. I was just like kind of moving with those characters. My emotions, my grief, all of that, it felt so like...
01:42:25
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ah Yeah, i the movie is crafted and it's engineered directly to make you sad. It's engineered to make you cry completely, but it's engineered in a way that also grounded in reality. It's very real. It's one of those things where like right now we're at a world where AI is trying to replace human patterns, is trying to replace stories. This is something that AI can never do because it's clear that this is something that was written by grief. It was made by people who have that experience and it's made for people who engage with that. This, when I was watching, i was like, fuck, these are things that I have not let myself feel. And I really let myself feel for two hours. And that ultimately just like unlocked something in my brain that made me feel like a human being. um
01:43:00
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This is forever going to be my number one movie of this year. It will. i I just don't envision a world where i will appreciate anything more than this because of how much power add over me and how strong it made me feel um yeah ham boys up 100 forever in the ham in the handbag that is beautiful and i i do agree i thought it was beautiful i enjoyed my time watching it um i don't i mean your experience like that is the way you connect to a movie like that is the deepest connection you could possibly have to a film and i can't say that i was there but i do think it is a beautiful depiction of grief and
01:43:41
Speaker
Um, I will say I was at an early access screening and for some reason there were two teen girls sitting next to me who were being so loud the entire time, just like straight up talking through the whole movie. So I do wonder if my experience was colored by that. I think it was.
01:43:56
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Yeah. i think I mean, it's one of those movies where you have to approach it in good faith. And I think if you're not approaching in good faith, it's not going to affect you you. have to let it open. I like really tried to let it wash over me and I was there at some point, but these girls just would not shut the hell up.
01:44:09
Speaker
That's devastating. So Hamnet, I'm not anti-Hamnet. I'm very neutral on Hamnet. I do think it is beautiful. That's valid. I think Hamnet is one of those movies I understand it not working for people, but I don't understand people being like, this is the worst thing ever Satan himself wrote this movie and it belongs to the dogs. yeah That's the level of takes that I'm seeing where i'm just like, I pity you so badly. I'm sorry that you did not have the cathartic experience that I felt watching it. It's going to be so fun when Wuthering Heights comes out.
01:44:37
Speaker
Oh my god, I'm gonna have so much fun with Wuthering
Unconventional Films and Emerging Directors
01:44:40
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Heights. I, like, regretfully, i I'm not an Emerald Fennell guy, but enjoyed Saltburn a little bit. I thought it was really bad, but I, like, had fun watching the bad. um And everyone's gonna be so fucking mad.
01:44:54
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um Let's do Rapid and Fire. I want to do some Rapid Fire honorable mentions for things that I saw this year that I loved. Yes. Eddington. I'm pro-Eddington, I'll say it.
01:45:05
Speaker
Okay, cool. I think um I, you know, I don't hate it, but I really felt its length. Yeah, no, I agree with that. um I mentioned Rebuilding.
01:45:17
Speaker
Great. Phenomenal. Please watch it. Fabulous. um Have you seen My Father's Shadow? have. Really loved it. Really beautiful. Akinola Davis Jr. is so cool, so kind, so talented. ah Super talented. Did you see Grand Theft Hamlet?
01:45:32
Speaker
No. really funny um it takes place entirely in gta and another hamlet movie that i really liked but it's like during coven it's about two stage actors who can't find work and they're feeling empty so they try to recreate hamlet in gta and it's just them interacting with strangers in the game it's really funny yeah cool um have you been familiar touch i have loved that as well very touching i um i'm like in the process of emailing the director's rep for an interview and every like couple of days i'll email them and be like she is on a writer's retreat we'll get back to you soon and i'm like what's the sitch and then it's like something else but hopefully i'll be able to fill that up because i was very touched and very moved by that yeah kathleen chauffant gave such a beautiful performance um
01:46:19
Speaker
28 years later, love. Of course, classic. Did you see Bone Tumble yet? We just went to the Bone Zone last week. Fucking awesome. Sick. Dude, i fucking love Jack O'Connell. I love that movie. Fuck Toys? Did you watch that?
01:46:30
Speaker
No, not yet. You should watch Fuck Toys. I interviewed the director and she is one of the coolest people I've talked to. I think I will love it. i Sorry, Baby. and Of course. Ava Victor. Yeah. One of my favorites here.
01:46:41
Speaker
You kiki'd with Ava Victor. We kiki'd. Such a great film. So beautiful. um i love anything that kind of plays with like what you don't see. think- The act of not showing something is so powerful. And they just blew it away with that one. What a great debut. um there' Yeah, brilliant. um This one doesn't count for this year, but Nerf on the Band, the show, the movie is one of the funniest movies seen. I'm so excited to watch that. Hell yeah. It is a really funny movie in a year of very funny movies, including Friendship, which, again, I'm in Tim Robinson's bag, but, you know. um
01:47:16
Speaker
Oh, I liked... um Fuck, what was it called? never mind it's acker about because i love sacramento not materialists uh i really like splitsville i thought it was very funny the fish on the roller coaster bit is so good really good um urchin loved Yep, our guy. or bo dickinson i love anyone kind of making a pivot from acting to directing, especially in their 20s. I think it's very cool. um Props to him.
01:47:50
Speaker
I loved weapons, obviously. Oh, yeah, dude. Weapons so good. um I had that ah speaking of like theater experiences that were fun as hell weapons was so much fun um it's one of those ones where like I don't know if it would have hit as hard if I had watched it at home I think that's really any movie but like the communal experience of that and the big screen loud noise everything of it was perfect um Peter Huger's Day have you seen i' have not seen it yet but this is next on my list that and final k cur ah chronology chronology chronology of water
01:48:24
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How
Upcoming Films and Anticipation
01:48:25
Speaker
do I say that word? Chronology. This sounds wrong. Chronology of Water are my the two I need to watch from this year that I missed out. Yeah. um I think Ben Wishaw gives... i think he's my favorite lead performance of the year. He's so cool. He's so good. Have you seen Fargo?
01:48:42
Speaker
The show? I have not. He's in season four, which is not the best season ever. They're a stacked cast. well it's Yeah, different anthologies, but season four isn't the worst of the seasons, but he's the best part of that by far.
01:48:53
Speaker
He's very good. Have you seen This Is Gonna Hurt? No. It's a medical show. It's a British medical show. It's sort of like Boy Fleabag. He plays a doctor. um It's really good. I think you'd love it.
01:49:05
Speaker
Cool. I think it's AMC+. If you need my login, hit me up. i I got you. Thank you. that That's very kind. um Continuing on our list, there's I think I'm going to talk about these in one go, but the three movies that came out about Palestine this year, um very special. I think it's really, really cool to see Palestinian cinema. I think they vary in terms of quality. My favorite is All That's Left of You. I think that one's... I'm seeing that this weekend. It's really special. very um I'm not going to give away too much, but it is my favorite of the three, and it's a really, really good movie. I liked Voice of Hinder Rajab, but I think that...
01:49:39
Speaker
I'm still not sure how I feel about that given the context of the real life story and how quickly it was turned into a narrative, but i also think that ultimately in the end, this is what counts. But i've talked to a lot of Palestinian friends about it and very mixed in the community, but it's a really well done movie. And the director made four daughters, which if you haven't seen, holy fuck, four daughters is so good.
01:50:01
Speaker
what's your third is it palestine 36 which is kind of like a historical epic um it's solid but it's nowhere near as good as the other two the other two are extremely moving love that um i'm really excited to see all that's left of you um yeah this weekend i saw seeds the documentary have you seen seeds I have not, no.
01:50:22
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It is about black farmers in the American South and how they are still struggling to afford what they need to farm and own their land. It's really moving. It's very quiet.
01:50:34
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um It really sits with these people um and sort of slowly builds until you see them talking about what they want to talk about. And it just, it really moved me. It's very beautiful. So I would highly recommend that. Awesome. I'm going to check it out.
01:50:47
Speaker
One I have, two I have not seen, three I have not seen that are still on the list like huge on the list for me. um Left-Handed Girl, we talked about. Goated. good. On Becoming a Guinea Fowl.
01:50:59
Speaker
That was going to be the next one that I threw out at you. Also really good. Really excited to see it. I've been meaning to watch it for so long and I just, it I have not made it. Really good. Also just like about a part of the world that you don't really see too many stories and i like media exposure to, which I think is really cool.
01:51:16
Speaker
Cannot wait. And Sound of Falling. Oh, heavy, but good. Excited for that one. Oh, also, Put Your Soul on Your Hand and Walk. ah Yes, I have not seen that. I'm not ready for that yet, but I will eventually.
01:51:30
Speaker
ah What else? is There's a lot on my list that I still have not touched. Sacramento is so funny. You should watch Sacramento. ok It's like a Michael Cera movie. um just really good stuff the super awkward humor Kristen Stewart's in it Michael Cera Michael Angarano Maya Erskine Kristen Stewart the four of them are like they kill it it's ah it's it's really off-putting but I think you'll enjoy it obviously Black Bag but everybody loves Black Bag you don't like Black Bag?
01:52:00
Speaker
no I was like okay wow you hate fun it's like it's meant to be seen on cable with ads The other one that's meant to be seen on cable with ads is Relay, but that's a movie that exists to watch with your dad also, which was really fun. It's a good time. I have not seen it. um And then in terms of like cute, a nice Indian boy.
01:52:21
Speaker
Like a really good rom-com that I heard great things had a good time with. Universal Language, very good. Universal Language and Magic Farm are like the same kind of artsy, cool, really awesome movie. um I think those are my honorable mentions. I feel like we've had a lot of honorable mentions. I am surprised you didn't mention your goat materialists.
01:52:41
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but i know Oh, Lurker. I loved how Did you see Lurker? Yes, I have. I liked Lurker. um The Plague I thought was great. The plague was cool. Those children scared me. Oh, Twinless is so good, dude.
01:52:53
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um I really like the end of the plague because it's Bo Trevi. me he Yeah. Hedda. Hedda's fun. I had a good time with Roofman. I had a fun time with, I'll say it. You Hedda fun time with?
01:53:07
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I had a fun time with it. Roofman is good, but it made me wish I was watching Place Beyond the Pines. Yeah, I agree. And have you seen Ephus? I have seen Ephus. I doubted Ephus at first. i was like, how good could a be movie about baseball actually be? But turns out a movie about baseball can be really fucking good.
01:53:24
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Okay. That's where I am right now. I have to watch it. I will get back to you. I'm a notorious baseball while he hater. I'm also like... Same. ah Yeah, but it's like about an adult sports league and I'm very passionate about my adult soccer league. Okay. I connected deeply with that. You connected. Nice. Movies that we hated.
01:53:44
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how scrolled I scrolled to the end of the list and it's the fucking weekend movie. Hurry up tomorrow. Everything else I'm fine with. I thought the the run of Stephen King adaptations that we have this year was tough.
01:53:57
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It was not very good. The Long Walk, Life of Chuck, and Running Man, all very... ah Although The running a Long Walk has so many shooters that I'm just like, what what happened here? The Springsteen movie, what's enough of that.
01:54:10
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We're good. um oh one that i still need to see is pillion and i've been trying to find it well it's not out yet i know but there were like screenings and i didn't make it to any of them and then i thought i'd be able to get a screener so i've been like clawing but i think i just have to watch it when it comes out um very excited i love have go alex alexander scars guard yeah i like bring her back also i know people are so this surprisingly i'm usually like on the horror more so than other stuff, but um I really liked Talk To Me. so Yeah, this is like ah it's like a step up from Talk To Me. It also leaves you feeling like complete shit. do you see Cloud?
01:54:47
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Nice. Yes! Oh my goodness, yeah, I really liked Cloud. Cloud and Eddington and Red Rooms to me are a really like... Oh yeah? see They're all very great, interesting depictions of our current world, and I feel like ah yeah other things try to capture it in a way that ah like oftentimes comes up short, but those three, I think did a really great job.
01:55:13
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Cool. um Anyways, I'm going to close this list off with hell of a summer because that's Fred Hegginger. And i thought it was really funny. Also that brings us as a segue to our inaugural Fred Hedginger award for being in the most movies.
01:55:29
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The Fred Hegginger award for being in the most movies. um We didn't release this bit of the podcast last year. We did not, but it's okay. It was a really great stretch of that just never saw the light of day. But essentially, we stumbled upon the Fred Hechinger Award. um Who did it go to?
01:55:44
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It went to Fred Hechinger because we named it after him. Oh, that's true. Because he was in, what was he last? He was in Nickel Boys. um Thelma.
01:55:56
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Thelma. Gladiator. Gladiator 2. Craven the Hunter. Craven the Hunter. Yeah. This year he was in Marty Supreme. I think this year it's Josh O'Connor.
01:56:07
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but i mean, it has to be Josh O'Connor. The Mastermind. Yes. The Mastermind. Rebuilding. Rebuilding. Knives Out. Knives Out. The Paul Mascow. History of Sound. History of Sound. He's four.
01:56:18
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Is anyone doing it like him? No, and he's going to be in a lot of really good movies next year. He's leading a Cone brother. Well, I think next year is going to be Robert Pattinson because he's in the Zendaya movie. He's in Dune. He's in The Odyssey.
01:56:33
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He's in i think that, like, looking forward to next year, I do think Robert Pattinson has the Fred Hecker Award, like, on lock. He has a... He's in a movie. um It's like a It's a biopic about the To Catch a Predator guy, but it's yeah from the documentarian.
01:56:48
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That's the one I was giving him. Yeah, he's going to be in a good one. um Anyways, yeah. And then, other award, best twin performance. It was Michael B. Jordan versus Dylan O'Brien. Yeah, I think I'm giving it to Dylan O'Brien, but there were so many twin movies this year. There was fucking What's-Her-Face and The Shrouds.
01:57:07
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Oh my god, yeah! Diane Kruger? Diane Kruger and The Shrouds. Robert Pattinson. can't believe was The Shrouds. I will follow David Cronenberg anywhere. I wish that I liked that movie more than I did.
01:57:20
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I felt that way, but then I sat with it and I was like, no, David's right. Like, he's right. happy for you. um What other twin movies were there?
01:57:32
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That's a good question. There were like 10 of them this year. It's crazy. don't think that's true. think you're making something up. No, there were so many.
01:57:42
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a movies where actors play two don't even know movies where actors play two roles 2020 i'm googling this live that's it i'm looking at someone's letterboxd list right now it's twinless the shrouds and sinners no dude there's so many more um i haven't seen the monkey The monkey, that's Theo. Elle Fanning in Predator Badlands. Robert De Niro in Alto Nights.
01:58:13
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Frankenstein, Mia Goth. Oh, yeah. No, they're not twins. That's mother and daughter. who know but she's different characters. it just works Oh, okay. Well, that's a different... that's it You said twins. now Okay. Well, it's the same thing to me. You know what I mean.
01:58:27
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That's category fraud. Sorry. Okay. did you Did you see the monkey? No. i forgot you're on the wrong side i have strange relationship with osgood perkins who was an os goodd pergens he's like um truth um okay any other fun awards that color this year before we close i should have prepped for this no i can't wait and i'm trying to find my list um we talked about testo no family feel like we should talk about it again just because it's so good shout out
01:59:00
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da da um okay i'm Most battles. Most battles. one You would think it's one battle after another. But there are quite a few inciners.
01:59:11
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Oh. Marty Supreme has a lot of matches. Marty Supreme does have a lot of matches. He has a lot of internal battles. Ella McKay. She's battling the political system. Ella McKay is waiting to become the governor of the state.
01:59:26
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She was born and raised in... Who do you think wins this category? Ella McKay. I think it's Ella. Speaking of Fred Hackinger, there was a movie called Preparation for the Next Life that I enjoyed. Yeah.
01:59:37
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I'm just going through my letterbox now. I have it pulled up. yeah so I didn't watch Preparation for the Next Life, but... Did you watch Steve? No. The Cillian Murphy direct to Netflix. Cillian Murphy Steve.
01:59:49
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It's so good. It's really good. It's very happy. It made me it it made me sad. It's like the perfect four-star movie. Jay Kelly. Jay Kelly doesn't hesitate.
02:00:00
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He exhibits no restraint. He takes and he takes and he takes and he takes. Oh, I really like The Things You Kill. We are Jay Kelly.
02:00:12
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We carry the flame. Kaie Moaga. That's a good one, too. Winley J in your car, I'm your Kelly.
02:00:25
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Alright. This is great. I think kind as we can real we can we can call it.
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Thank you to our lovely listeners. We love all ten of you. Ten might be generous, but we do love you. We're not double digits.
02:00:39
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need to do We have like five comments on our last episode, which I thought was pretty crazy. Aren't they all your friends, though? Yeah. they They listened to it. Honestly, my friends, i love them with all my heart, but I just wouldn't expect that my friends would have made it to that to the end of that episode. You have great friends.
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what i So I know so i know who i can who I can prioritize more accordingly and wish happy birthday every year. Yeah, the faster you text, the better your rewards will be. There is a leaderboard, and i have all of you ranked, and it is directly correlated by how many of you are liking Film Slop's Instagram posts. I like the idea that there's a party going on in my apartment right now, and a bunch of people taking shots can hear me singing, we are Jay Kelly, we carry the flame. That's awesome. And you're just recording a podcast while people partying?
02:01:39
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Yeah. Alrighty. Your net worth is your net worth. Okay. This is lot of fun. This is really fun. Thank you for indulging this. Thanks for listening. I'm not even going to plug anything. If you find me, you find me.
02:01:52
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i I'll plug Film Slop. You can follow us on Instagram. You can follow us on Twitter. just I think what really matters is every day i want you to wake up and I want you to go into your browser and type filmslop.com and just keep doing that every day. kid Keep up the filmslop.com. Save that.
02:02:13
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Amen. um yeah Also, if any of you listening. F is for F1. I is for if I had legs, I'd kick you. oh wait, wait, wait. Should we start A through Z?
02:02:28
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No. No. that is for Lee, Anne. M is for my father's shadow. No, I mean my Marty Supreme. I'm doing Best Picture nominees. You didn't do anything.
02:02:44
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What's Us? Sentimental Value. Oh, yeah. Did you see She-Ride's Shotgun? Crazy movie. I don't even know what you just said. It's called She-Ride's Shotgun. Taron Egerton's in it.
02:02:55
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John Carroll Lynch is the bad guy, and he's a guy named the God of Slabtown. Wow. I don't think that's a real movie There were some movies I saw this year. Okay, oh. Oh, no, no, we forgot Elle.
02:03:07
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L is- wait, I'm looking at the wrong list. L is for... Lee. Comma, Anne. m is for... Hemnet.
02:03:23
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Hemnet? Wait, we already did film. Hemnet. Hemnet. Hemnet. L. is for one battle after another. and P is for...
02:03:35
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Predator Badlands. President's Cake. Ooh, I like that one. That was a good movie. What is it? The President's Cake. It's that it's Iraq's Oscar submission. um
02:03:47
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Yeah. Okay, well. Yeah. what What's the copyright the situation if with um playing us out with the song Train Dreams from Train Dreams?
02:04:00
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I think we we have the rights. Okay, Dusty, get those rights. Dusty, can you get the rights? Dusty, can you go get the rights? I'll figure it out. I'm going to the rights store. Do you guys need anything?
02:04:13
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ah Hey, guys. this is This is post-Dusty here. um I couldn't get the rights to Train Dreams from Train Dreams, so you're going to get the next best thing.
02:04:26
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i I have the song pulled up on my other monitor, and I'm going to sing a quick lyric from it. Uh, because I think that'd be funny and a great way to end this episode. And I'm sure all you lovely listeners want to hear my beautiful singing voice.
02:04:42
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um and Lately, I've been having dreams. Crazy dreams I can't explain. woman standing in a field of flowers and dreaming locomotive trade.
02:04:56
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Crazy dreams that go on for hours. but I can't begin to tell you how that feels. Yeah, that that's all you get. Good night. Thanks for listening.