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Speaker: Welcome to Sicily, Alaska, a Northern Exposure podcast. I'm Anne Flynn Terrell. I'm a cabaret performer and emcee. I'm Caleb Kohart. I'm a documentary and commercial filmmaker.
Speaker: I'm Amy Gerlich. I own and run a improv and sketch comedy theater in Denver, Colorado. This is a podcast where we talk about Northern Exposure and how it's affected our lives. And we have some amazing special guests.
Speaker: Season 6, Episode 17, The Graduate. All right. We open outside the old movie theater with Maggie having just signed the papers to become the official new owner.
Speaker: Maurice arrives to congratulate her in his own special way by telling her that he was trying to buy it and she outbid him. As they enter the building, it appears that it has been abandoned for the last 50 years, despite having been featured prominently in the first three seasons of the show. Yeah, this ah this opening was very triggering for me because this was this reminded me of when I walked into...
Speaker: pre chaos bloom and the stage was ripped up and there was trash everywhere and the floors were cement and I had a small meltdown. Yeah. What was nuts too about that is like the theater was operational where you currently have it.
Speaker: And then for some reason, why don't we trash it and move it to the back and enter through the alley? Oh my God. Um, Yeah, it was like, what are we thinking? forgot about that.
Speaker: Yeah, which took me about two months to wrap my head around and to finally have the guts to be like, why are we doing this? And also, Robert and I put in easily 100 hours apiece moving stuff back there, painting, gutting, cleaning. Like, what a waste of my time.
Speaker: Yeah. Yeah. Purely not great. Yeah. Well, and especially like just the foot traffic, like the main entrance being on South Broadway and the new entrance entrance being in an alley that most people don't want to walk down on a Friday or Saturday evening.
Speaker: um Yeah. it It didn't make a lot of logistical sense. Well, and for a city that let's be real loves to hike, but doesn't love to walk. ah Your front door is on one of the most walkable, highly trafficked areas in Denver.
Speaker: Yeah. Yeah. Your back door, however, but but i is not. Yeah. I mean, that was just, that was just the tip of the iceberg of the bullshit that I had to deal with.
Speaker: Mm-hmm. Well, after the credits, Chris is mixing up some smoothies in the booth on air. Nothing like good radio running a mixer right by a microphone.
Speaker: He's mixing up a little brain food because his dissertation on casey at the Bat has warranted some impending visitors to interview him for his master's degree.
Speaker: Yeah, let me know when you want me to do the IMDB of Professor Aaron Martin. Well, he's coming up in one scene. Before we get to that, at the brick, a young military man named Patrick arrives in full uniform looking for his quote unquote uncle, Holling.
Speaker: Patrick thinks that Holling, oh, thanks Holling, for the many monthly checks that him and his mom have received from Holling because, well, Patrick now believes Holling is actually his father as opposed to his uncle.
Speaker: right, we're back at the radio station. and Oh, wait, go ahead, Ann. No, go ahead. No, I have something, but I can hold on to it dearly. All right. Well, we're back at the radio station. Chris is smoking of a pipe in the booth now as Professor Aaron Martin from the Lit Department arrives. And this is a perfect opportunity for some IMDB of Professor Aaron Martin. Yeah, he's the only one I did in this episode. So his name is Jack Blessing.
Speaker: He has 94 credits. He's easily you see him and you're like, I know I've seen him in something. He passed away in 2017. But let's talk about some of his notable credits. So he was on MASH. He was on Family Ties.
Speaker: He was on Moonlighting. He was in Uncle Buck. He was on the Golden Girls. Yep. He was on the Larry Sanders show. he was on ER.
Speaker: He was on this one's for Anne, the X-Files. He was in Talladega Nights. He was on the George Lopez show, like prominently, apparently. um He was on, did CSI, The Hunger Games, and The Chronicles of Riddick.
Speaker: Damn. Oh, wow. All right. Way to go, Professor Aaron Martin. Mm-hmm. Yeah. While bonding over some literature and a couple of cold ones, Professor Aaron mor Martin warns Chris that the other impending professor is biased against Chris and that the path he's taken toward getting his degree...
Speaker: All right. Maggie is working on the concession stand at the theater with her new hires, Ed and Heather Haynes. Maggie is still running her charter business and her real estate business. So Ed is the new manager and internal film consultant. Heather appears to have left home and needs a job so she doesn't have to live off of her rich parents.
Speaker: She also foreshadows the entire conflict of the plot when she thanks Maggie for the job because most people don't hire friends. Hmm.
Speaker: Professor Dick Schuster arrives and he meets Chris as he's leaving the radio station. Professor Dick seems to warn Chris about his own misgivings as well as Professor Aaron's biases. and He basically tells Chris he won't be giving him his degree.
Speaker: Which, this is a side note, makes complete sense given that Professor Dick reveals that Chris has no preliminary degrees, something that i thought you actually needed to logistically get a master's degree.
Speaker: Well, I also wondered because I remember hearing that you could become a lawyer by just passing the bar. You did not have to go to law school. It was just highly recommended that you went to law school to prepare yourself for the bar, but that that was not a requirement.
Speaker: Interesting. Yeah. You could just take the bar. Well, and let's be honest, Chris is going for a master's in comparative literature. So yeah. It's not like he's a CPA or something, you know? Have you guys ever had a professor or employer who just was hell bent on not giving people things because they didn't go through like the regular ways of getting to things? Like this unorthodox way of getting things, people, those people that get really bent out of shape about it.
Speaker: I had a music professor in college where I was in the band and I was in a lot of the music school, but my my um major was journalism. And so I wanted to take some more piano lessons and some theory lessons so I'd be better at all the band stuff.
Speaker: And I went, you had to interview with the professor in order to get into his class. So I went to interview and he basically called me a piece of shit because I wasn't a music major. And because I wasn't a music major, there was no way I would be taking piano at the University of Kansas.
Speaker: Wow. You mean the prestigious University of Kansas? I can see why. Well, yeah. the prestig The prestigious. Now, the journalism school is like the number two public journalism school in the Yeah.
Speaker: The music school is very low on the totem pole. So you start to wonder. It's such a weird concept to me because I feel like, because i I'll give you guys my thing. It's not a professor or a person I worked for. It's my stepmother.
Speaker: so she when um biden was talking about relieving people's student loans so she's an art she was an art teacher in a high school and she also worked with all the sport teams um but she had a full-on meltdown rant on facebook ah basically saying that like it was just despicable, this idea that people were going to get their loans like relieved. and
Speaker: not not taking into account that like my husband has a lot of student loans and that like prohibits us from like getting houses and other things that people, adults have that she has. But her students went off on her.
Speaker: like they were like i'm i am so like disappointed i can't believe that you're one of those types of people and i'm like y'all didn't know my stepmom's a republican trump-loving republican um and an art teacher that's kind of a weird yeah who would go to new york with her students every year but not once not once came and saw any of my shows where i was like you can come to a an upright citizens brigade show for free all of your 40 students and she would be like no huh i'm like cool cool that's wow
Speaker: I'm trying to think if there was ever that kind of artificial gatekeeping that I've experienced. I mean, there's always some in the theater community like, the oh, I don't know. I remember in high school, I got the lead in Once Upon a Mattress as a junior.
Speaker: was not a senior. had not therefore paid my dues. And the senior members of the high school were displeased that it had been based on merit at the time rather than hours put in. I know. I know.
Speaker: I think that was. it No, it's yes. Well, this kind of wraps up to like the whole idea of Professor Dick Schuster and the fact that his name is a little bit too on the nose. Yeah.
Speaker: Yep. All right. It's now late night at the brick and Shelly starts looking through the bank statements, realizing that hauling has been sending monthly checks to Patrick and his mom this entire time. So she also now buys in. She believes hauling is the father.
Speaker: She's actually super excited about it. Hauling denies everything. So what do they do about it? no they did They take a sleigh ride.
Speaker: I take a love the sleigh ride. What do you do whenever you're concerned that your husband may have fathered a child out of wedlock and now this child is here and is part of the French Canadian army? You take a sleigh ride. You create whimsy. Yeah, we would solve so many conflicts if that's how we handled And you should require everyone to sing. Yeah. Yeah. A hundred percent.
Speaker: um Well, speaking of jamming out with some music, Heather and Ed are jamming out to some tunes at the theater while making out. It was aggressive. aggressive Have you all watched any of the Love Island series? No, thank you.
Speaker: Okay. Hear me out. I've never watched it of my own volition, but the woman who's doing my nails now has a TV behind her and she just puts it on whatever reality television show she's watching. So I have watched parts of Love on the Spectrum, ah Love Island, and then there was this one where they separated, like the people were matched up because they had a big age difference. And I forget what they call it, like age of love or something like that.
Speaker: And... The first time that they meet on Love Island, it is this violent making out because we're positing, she and I, that the only thing that they've ever seen, any kind of healthy relationship has been on TV and movies like this. So like they see a relationship like this and they're like, oh, that's what it means to be in a relationship. And then they just...
Speaker: smash faces in the most uncomfortable way because this looks like there is no connection. It also feels like how you make out with your first girlfriend in like yes middle school or ah upper elementary school. Yeah. No tongue, all like moving your mouth around and hitting teeth. Just like lips and yeah, exactly. Teeth, lips, and just like too much moisture involved. Hey, they were just into it, but it's poor timing for them because Maggie walks in.
Speaker: The new crew hasn't been getting their work done. They've been getting work done, but not their work done. So Maggie is having to pick up the slack while letting Heather walk all over her.
Speaker: All right. Chris is taking his oral exam at the church while Eugene is apparently renovating it at the exact same time for some reason. um This is one actual positive note I wrote. At first I was like, what the hell is going on? But then I started to I wrote a little bit of insider thing. Like I actually thought this was an amazing crane shot to introduce the scene, a long imposing table,
Speaker: A meager, nervous Chris perfectly framed by the altar behind him. The tension of the opposing side of knowledge with Professor Dick and Professor Aaron. The weight of the scene struck into stark perspective by a a seemingly unaffected handyman painting mere steps away. I thought this was a very artistic scene. I rewatched this scene and was like...
Speaker: Wow. Somebody leaned in hard. Somebody was trying to learn, earn their ASC credentials on this bad boy. Do you feel like somebody was just trying to rearrange the deck chairs on the Titanic? And they were like, well, I'm going to go down, but I might as well go down swinging. I think maybe what this would have been is like my opportunity to be a DP when I've been like a first AC, like a first ah assistant camera or something the entire run of this show. I finally get one scene and I'm like, look, this thing isn't going anywhere. But by God, I'm going to get picked up for the next movie that somebody's casting. So I'm putting a thousand percent. in Yeah. aspect Yeah. Like if you want to put that on your reel, i kind of get that.
Speaker: Hell yeah. This scene would be on my reel as a DP. Or David david Chase was like, I'm leaving. Impress me to the to the crew. Yeah. Make me want to take you with me. This is the scene where the guys were fighting with their words.
Speaker: This was that scene? Yeah. yeah well Yeah. It was like when they first started to give him the exam. Yeah. And they get like they get into an argument and well it becomes this... That's later. That's at Maurice's. is that...
Speaker: Yeah, that's a Maurice's. Oh, no. When they actually get into it. There's that one, but there's this one where they just had a little petty argument. There's one later on. they petty it up. This is the petty argument, but they... They petty it up. Yeah. And Chris is feeling a little uncomfortable about the whole deal. All right, now we're back to the actual sleigh ride moment. Shelly, Randy, and Patrick are taking hauling with them on a sleigh ride and a family picnic. Shelly's pretty excited about the prospect of Patrick being brother to Randy.
Speaker: um we We largely covered how we could solve most of the ah Western civilization if we just had more sleigh rides and singing. um All right. The theater is up and running now.
Speaker: They turn this thing fast, by the way. Yeah. And they're showing very old artistic movies because, of course, Ed's in charge of picking the movies. And there's a bit of a crisis at the concession stand as they are down to their last box of milk duds.
Speaker: Seems Heather forgot to restock. She also won't clean up the fresh vomit in the ladies room because of a weird thing she has with smelling it. So Ed gets to clean up while Heather kind of takes over the concession stand while screwing up a real change. Heather is a very shitty employee.
Speaker: I used to work at a movie theater. I worked at movie theaters all the way from junior high through college. And ah i never had to... When I was in high school and stuff, I was just the projectionist. But when I got to college, the projectionists are also the ushers. So I would have to go down, tear the tickets, and then the ushers the ones that go in and clean out the auditoriums after the fact.
Speaker: And I would always have to clean up vomit. Somebody throws up in a movie theater once daily. Ew, why? The other worst thing, like back at, I don't know, Too Much Candy, um...
Speaker: But the other thing, and I worked at the dollar theater. So we had like just people would drop their kids off to just basically have us babysit. But back then, this was before LED lights were invented. So we also had to go into every auditorium.
Speaker: beforehand and change the lights if any of the lights in the ceiling were out. And the only way we could do it was with this A-frame ladder that had ah another ladder sticking straight up the middle. No. I was the only employee that wasn't afraid of heights. So I had to change every light bulb. And so I finally made a deal with them. I was like, look, if I'm going to change all these light bulbs because I'm literally the only one that'll do it, I'm never touching vomit again. So I struck a deal.
Speaker: That seems fair. do you Well, that's surprising to me. And go ahead, because I was going to tell you guys something similar. so my question is, how in the world?
Speaker: Well, I get the legality of that ladder. But wait, were these tube lights or were they bulb lights? Bulbs. There's extension rods for that. yeah And I know that it's a really long way away, but there's extension rods for that. That seems like the worst possible way to absolutely break their insurance is by putting rickety ladder on a rickety ladder.
Speaker: Yeah, this was like – I'm not sure. Why were people vomiting? Like once a movie. Motion sickness. Not once a movie, but like – So there were six auditoriums. And there was guaranteed to be one vomit incident every day. That's not right. I get nauseous. Between like the four showings at the six things.
Speaker: I get nauseous and like i'm like IMAX, I get nauseous because of the curve. Okie dokie. But here's a job i bet you guys don't know something about that is surprising what people find when they clean up, when people leave. So I have a friend who's a flight attendant.
Speaker: And he said that he has had to clean up almost every other flight. There's shit or blood on someone's seat. hate that.
Speaker: shut the front door so they have to take out they have to take out like whole seats cushions and replace them so if you've ever been on one that's like rickety or kind of like coming it's probably because it's been changed out because someone shit on it the poo i don't understand if i wasn't sick flying already now i'm even When he told me that, I was like, what?
Speaker: I mean, I get it. Like, if you're on your period, I get that. But the poo – so here's my thing. With the blood, like, yeah, there's always going to be leaks. Like, there's always accidents that are happening. But it feels like poo has to go through so many more layers. And I know it actually technically doesn't. But it feels like it should have to go through more layers.
Speaker: Yeah. Here's the scary part. I thought the same as you, Anne. And I was like, yeah, ladies. And he goes, nine times out of ten, it's a man.
Speaker: We were talking about the dissections that we used to do in school. And apparently the one that we did at my high school was very uncommon. We dissected a cat. Oh, they did that at our high school.
Speaker: What? Yeah. I would never. If you took anatomy. You didn't have to. So like in the early one, we had to do a fetal pig in the first level of just like general biology. But if you took anatomy, you can either take anatomy or chemistry. Those were your two choices.
Speaker: Anatomy, you had to do a cat. And I had a cat I loved. So I was like, nope, chemistry all the way. But yeah, they had to do cats in our school. We just did frogs. thought I was going to Well, we did.
Speaker: Did cats. I thought I was going to go into med school. So I was very. Oh, and it. yes it's it's so It was a living thing.
Speaker: And there's also like, it was the, all right, if I'm going to have to do this to a person, I can do this element. But I'm also finding out that was very strange. Like this was not something that happened in a lot of places. I'm actually interested to hear that it was in Kansas too.
Speaker: Never heard that. Oh yeah. We dissect everything. Kansas. Yeah. ah Come on. You're right. You're right. So badass. Where were we? We were at the oral exams being complete and or at least the first half of them. And um the professors and Chris retired to a more sophisticated affair. Dinner hosted by Maurice. As the wine flows, the conversation heats up and the intellectual insults begin to fly.
Speaker: Literature leads to literal fisticuffs as the two professors go at each other. It was too much. it was three Chris's in a room. And I was like, i can't at all. intense. I didn't like it.
Speaker: Me neither. I didn't like it at all. And I wanted to fast forward through it, but I didn't. Well, Maggie is cleaning up up the theater at the same time as Dr. Capra arrived. In my notes, I wrote, damn, halfway through the episode, I thought we were going to get a free pass on this one. But nope, he's here. Turns out ah the theater was serving rancid butter and the popcorn created a bit of mini outbreak in town. So she has to stop selling the popcorn and clean out the butter.
Speaker: If you all ever worry that you have rancid oil or butter, invite me over. I have a very astute sniffer for it. i am i am the sniffer of this household and many other households.
Speaker: I can smell things that have gone off. And oils, like it is awful. You can taste it through the through a brownie or through popcorn or through anything. If you're using bad butter or bad oil,
Speaker: yeah yeah it's ah It is not good and it is pretty terrible for you. So I was happy that Dr. Capra was at least on that bandwagon. Also, if you want a good baking tip, a lot of people keep their baking soda and baking powder like forever.
Speaker: and they use that every time they make cookies. And the one tip my mom gave me that is was really helpful was every time that you make cookies, buy cookies.
Speaker: brand new baking soda. So of course, I wouldn't want to buy a whole box. But she's like, you buy the box, you ah rip it open, you use it for your chocolate chip cookies, and then you throw it in your fridge and use that as a sanitizer. And I would always be like, Yeah. And now I'm bougie. And I go on Amazon and buy like really expensive baking soda that just comes in like these little bags.
Speaker: But I'm like, I know this is going to be the best baking soda ever of all time. Expensive baking soda? Yeah. It like comes in these like- It's artisan.
Speaker: It's artisanal. Pretty much. Artisanal sodas. Yeah, but I only use it for baking. And then I have regular baking soda that I'll throw in my fridge. <unk> I found out when I like I make homemade tortillas and I was, I used old baking powder and was, they didn't rise. I was like, well, this it's gotta be this. So I do the same thing. I just buy a, every time I make them, I just buy a new small tin. Yeah.
Speaker: You can go to like, oh, I'm sorry. oh Like the sprouts and you get just a little bit because, you know, they go through that stuff like crazy. So, you know, it's going to be fresh and then you only have to buy a little little bit. Wait, sprouts? In the bulk section. and Oh, so does Whole Foods have that too?
Speaker: Probably. Wow. You just blew my mind, Anne. But also, I don't know how old that is, you know? like i Well, that's the thing, though. I think people are going through that stuff like crazy. Okay. All right. I feel like people are using that because everybody uses it to deodorize their fridge. Or, like, I've seen it used as a deodorizer for carpet Oh yeah. You can use it on your carpet and then you vacuum it up.
Speaker: I throw it into my, um, garbage dispensel, uh, disposal and put vinegar in there and that cleans out yeah all the goop. Yep. Yep. Yeah. It makes it smell much nicer.
Speaker: Um, All right, well, post-outbreak, we get a nice little war cutaway, nice little, you know, illusion here with Chris, Beethoven, Van Gogh, Edgar Allan Poe, Shakespeare. They're all pinned down by the enemy.
Speaker: The climax of the scene is Chris realizing that he's actually facing himself in combat, and then he wakes up. Kind of heavy-handed for a fantasy. Yeah. um The next morning, Chris is on the air breaking down a little Ray Charles ditty and pontificating about the overanalyzing about how overanalyzing anything just grinds it to dust while simultaneously throwing himself a little bit of a pity party.
Speaker: And in what has become a recurring Chris theme, he thinks he should quit pursuing his dream. The last or the latest of these being earning a master's degree. I've noticed this with Chris, like every time he's close to something, like when he almost became a pilot, he quit. When he almost became a you know a successful artist, he quit. So like he's he's very much a make it to the 90% mark and then walk away kind of guy. Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Ruthann and Walt are having dinner at the Hollings with the whole family, new members included. They seem to have been told that Patrick is kin. Holling is stoically conflicted and won't talk about it until Patrick toasts him.
Speaker: This breaks the dam and Holling admits the truth that he actually murdered Patrick's real dad. Holling ran before they could charge him with murder. That the money came from guilt, not out of obligation. We find out why he got, he murdered here in a little bit.
Speaker: um All right, we're back to the movie theater and Maggie is ushering the movie and chatting with Dr. Capra at the same time during the movie, annoying the patrons and sharing very specific medical issues she's having in a very public setting. So personal.
Speaker: Yeah, so personal. um Very rude, too. Yeah. So finally they step out in the lobby and they find that Heather is painting her nails. ah Dr. Capra diagnoses her with stress and Maggie attacks him for being sexist.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: All right, we're back at the Vencours. Holly and Schelling are talking about the murder. Patrick's dad, Philemon, tried to kill Holling over a bakery ticket. He went for his gun because he thought Holling had cut him in line. So Philemon pulls out his gun. Holling goes for the gun. They tussle. They both fall to the floor. Philemon never gets back up. He was accidentally shot. Accidentally.
Speaker: Accidentally. help At the church, the two professors are sitting and awaiting Chris, who is a no-show. Instead, he sends Eugene with a message that they should meet him at Manyfields Field.
Speaker: Back at the theater, Maggie has called a meeting with the staff, and she has a little bit of come-to-Jesus meeting with the crew, basically telling Ed, hey, we've got to get some shows in here that sell, not these artsy-fartsy things. And as a part of the meeting, she admits that she has a very significant problem of trying to please everyone and make everybody like her, which leads her to finally giving Heather the boot.
Speaker: Yeah. I liked the ah her. It's not called show art. It's called show business. Amen. And there's a reason business is twice as long as art.
Speaker: Yeah. um All right. Not too happy with the truth, Patrick arrives at the brick, fired up and ready for vengeance. He challenges Holling to a knife fight to the death.
Speaker: This was a fun scene. Yeah. Because half the town fills in the other half of the town, about the circumstances in a very nonchalant way while offering some not so much needed repeat exposition. like the whole town's in there and they're just going back and forth, filling in all the plot holes.
Speaker: Meanwhile, they're all just like super chill with it. And ah Dr. Capra's in there like losing his mind, like what the hell is going on here? But in the end, cooler heads prevail. Hauling is able to decompress the situation and everything is perfectly fine. We're back to business as normal.
Speaker: Yeah, i love that collective. The whole town was like waiting for to a knife fight to happen. And then when it didn't, they were all like, nah, boring. That was pretty clever. That was some good, clever town writing that we haven't seen in a minute. I liked that scene. yeah me too.
Speaker: All right, we're at Minifields Field, and it turns out that Minifields Field is the local baseball field. Chris is at home plate when the professors arrive. In his own uniquely gifted way of juxtaposing words with action, Chris nails his oral exam.
Speaker: He's had a change of heart about what Casey at the bat actually means, and he puts one of the professors at bat, and they go through it. So he wins over Professor Dick. I liked this.
Speaker: I liked it. That was a fun scene. Good live action reading of Casey at the bat. It was fun. It kind of just reminded me of Twilight, so I liked it, but I didn't like a lot of it. There's a big baseball scene in Twilight.
Speaker: oh Have you all ever watched the full Twilight series? I think so. watched the first Twilight movie once, and I tried to read the book because I was actually trying to write a sketch back in the day of... um It was kind of like ah an Oprah style sketch where Dracula was super pissed off that all of vampiredom had been ruined because of all this twilight shit. Like they can be out in the sun and they sparkle now and they're vegetarians. So I was trying to read it to research it and my God, I couldn't do it. It was rough. I watched the movie and it was it was a tough one.
Speaker: I think you should give it another go with some time and perspective in your life. yeah i'm sure I'm sure I'm going to enjoy that teenage love movie even more now at 48. Specifically the final movies. ah I think that you should give it another go.
Speaker: I was i was all right very pleased because I didn't care for the movies or didn't care for the books. because You know, we've only got a few episodes of this show left. So maybe we just keep continuing with Twilight. no.
Speaker: All right. Honestly, if it meant that I could forget the final episodes of this series, I would would do it. Hey, all the power to you. You guys should do it and then get like a teenage girl to join you guys.
Speaker: What are you calling me not youthful enough? No, I just I just think it it's ah ah I would never have assumed that you would like the Twilight movies, but you surprise me. And sometimes and it's still every now and again.
Speaker: i i really liked them. I also really love Pacific Rim and not a lot of people will watch that movie with me. All right. Well, back at the theater, Maggie and Ed are preparing for a busy night with a little subtle revealing about their successful turn or reveling with a little subtle reveling in the successful turnaround of the theater.
Speaker: um At the brick, all is well with Patrick and hauling. Patrick is shipping out and they've made up. All right. The show ends at the community basketball gym that we haven't seen in a while. It's graduation day and Chris is accepting his master's degree in comparative literature with Maggie and Marilyn looking on.
Speaker: I'm glad you said what it was. The volume was so loud at when they were reading off what his degree was. i could not hear it. I kept rewinding it and turning the volume up, and I was like, I cannot hear this.
Speaker: So thanks for letting me know. Yeah, comparative literature. Do any of you have anybody in your lives who has gotten a degree in comparative literature?
Speaker: No, I've got one in journalism, and I've... pretty sure that was a useful pursuit. I mean, it would have been in the Yeah. No, I mean, yeah now I think journalism translates to documentary filmmaking, for sure. It does. I absolutely think so think it does. And we need journalists now more than ever because more and more all we're getting are reporters.
